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Speaker 1: Hello, everyone, Welcome back inside Central Training Center for another

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Speaker 1: episode of Broncos Now. As always, I'm your host is

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Speaker 1: Sidney Jones, and coming up on today's episode, we'll hear

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Speaker 1: from center Lloyd kushianbierri In insidelnebacker Alex Singleton BLUs.

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Speaker 2: Broncos lead writer Eric.

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Speaker 1: Delala joins the show for a game recap all that

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Speaker 1: more coming up. Joining me here on today's episode of

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Speaker 1: Broncos Now is Broncos lead writer Eric Delala for a

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Speaker 1: game recap. Eric Denver fell to zero and two with

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Speaker 1: a Sunday's lost to the Washington Commanders. Want to open

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Speaker 1: up this episode talking about the offense. We heard Sean

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Speaker 1: Payne talk about, you know, how the momentum really shifted

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Speaker 1: in the second quarter following Russell Wilson's fumble.

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Speaker 2: You know, we heard him on the conference called this morning.

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Speaker 2: What did you.

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Speaker 1: Really see from the offense that unit in the first

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Speaker 1: half versus then after that turnover.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they were really good obviously on their

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Speaker 3: first three drives, three possessions, three touchdowns. They did it

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Speaker 3: in a variety of ways. They had one drive where

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Speaker 3: they just take a deep shot to Marvin Mims Junior

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Speaker 3: shows off that speed and to catch a long touchdown

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Speaker 3: pass you saw it on the preceding drive. With the

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Speaker 3: ability to use creative play calling and really in the

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Speaker 3: red zone kind of used matchups, personnel groupings to your advantage.

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Speaker 3: They stayed on schedule. All those sorts of things were

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Speaker 3: really impressive. And you know, it's not that they completely

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Speaker 3: went away from that after the fumble. I just think

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Speaker 3: that there were too many consecutive possessions where they either

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Speaker 3: got behind the sticks or turned the ball over or

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Speaker 3: made a mistake here there that prevented them from scoring.

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Speaker 3: And following the fumble at obviously, Washington goes down, scores

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Speaker 3: points to cut the lead to ten points. You go

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Speaker 3: three and out, they kick a field goal, you come

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Speaker 3: out a halftime, you go three and out again. And

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Speaker 3: while you're able to add a field goal later in

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Speaker 3: the third to retake the lead, which you know, looking

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Speaker 3: back at it, you almost forget that the Broncos did

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Speaker 3: retake the lead momentarily. There just wasn't enough from the

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Speaker 3: late stages of the second quarter through the early stages

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Speaker 3: late in the fourth quarter, and I think Micha McGlinchey

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Speaker 3: put it well, where he just said, we weren't sharp enough,

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Speaker 3: we weren't dialed in enough, you know, and it just

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Speaker 3: they stalled out for a little bit too long. And

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Speaker 3: so I think it's interesting because it shows you the

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Speaker 3: potential of what this group can do. Right at the

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Speaker 3: same time, it shows you there's still work to be

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Speaker 3: done and win football games in the National Football League.

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Speaker 3: You've got to put it together for a full sixty minutes,

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Speaker 3: you know, even on that possession where Russell fumbles the football,

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Speaker 3: if you are able to you had the ball at

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Speaker 3: the Washington thirty five, if you're able to avoid a

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Speaker 3: holding penalty, I mean, even just get a field goal there.

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Speaker 3: If field goal there, another touchdown, you're now at the

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Speaker 3: point where you're leading by three scores, maybe even four scores,

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Speaker 3: and you wonder if that's enough to kind of put

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Speaker 3: the game on ice at that point. Unfortunately, not able

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Speaker 1: Right. Well, we heard from center Lloyd Kushimbary earlier today,

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Speaker 1: you know, as he talked about how this team was

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Speaker 1: what changed from his perspective offensively in the second half.

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Speaker 2: Take a listen.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like you said, they got a really good front

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Speaker 4: what they also they want to do is our passion.

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Speaker 4: And you know they got home a few times, but

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Speaker 4: you know, the main thing, most of them stakes are

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Speaker 4: on us and Veric cleaning it up, moving forward to

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Speaker 4: have the good things to build off on them, but

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Speaker 2: Second half Erica.

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Speaker 1: The team also had some communication issues versus the Washington Commanders,

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Speaker 1: really that starts with the coaches and reducing verbiage. What

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Speaker 1: did you kind of see in terms of that on Sunday.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, listen, part of what makes this offense

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Speaker 3: But I think unfortunately at times that took too long

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Speaker 3: to burn timeouts. And that happened, I believe, on three

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Speaker 3: the success that you had in the first half where

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Speaker 3: This is really the only little nitpicky thing is that

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Speaker 3: they've had to use some timeouts. Things changed quickly, and

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Speaker 3: I think particularly on the second to last drive where

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Speaker 3: you saw that where maybe they could have gone a

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Speaker 3: If you're able to get in the end zone there,

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Speaker 3: maybe you're able to get another position or just have

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Speaker 3: Obviously it worked out because they got the hail Mary

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Speaker 3: right Sokay, having to use a time out there wasn't

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Speaker 3: the end of the world. But just need to be

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Speaker 3: a little crisper there, and yeah, put yourself, put your

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Speaker 1: Sure, And we also heard inside linebacker Alex Singleton talk

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Speaker 1: how some of those little details really matter.

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Speaker 5: No, I think defensively, you know, we kind of went

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Speaker 5: over it today. You know, we don't have you know,

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Speaker 5: a huge, a huge play call. You know, we might

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Speaker 5: have a couple of personnels, but a lot of it's

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Speaker 5: see you know so much in practice of certain plays

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Speaker 5: and it's there's a lot and a lot of little

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Speaker 1: Lloyd Kushiambary also commentated that on that and said, you know,

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Speaker 1: moving forward, that's not going to be a huge issue

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Speaker 1: as they work on everyone getting on the same page

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Speaker 1: and communicating better. Eric, you mentioned Marvin Mams a little

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Speaker 1: Sunday he had two catches for one hundred and thirteen

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Speaker 3: I mean, listen, it's it's easy to say, hey, let's

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Speaker 3: get Marvin Mams more involved and let's get him five

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Speaker 3: the Broncs really didn't throw the ball very much, particularly

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Speaker 3: and then they've got other guys to get the ball to,

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Speaker 3: Like you want Jerry Judy to get targets, you want

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Speaker 3: for me to to say, hey, Marvin Mams should should

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Speaker 3: a season goes on, he'll get more and more time.

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Speaker 3: But listen again, I think offensively, you've seen big steps

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Speaker 3: and to win football games. We know what Marvin Mams

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Speaker 3: at it and say the Broncos lost his football game

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Speaker 3: because they stopped going to Marvin Mamms. I think that, right,

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Speaker 3: that's something that helped them get out to a big lead.

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Speaker 3: But certainly there are chances later in the game with

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Speaker 1: We heard Lord Christian Barry praise Marvin Mams just who

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Speaker 1: he is as a player, you know, on and off

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Speaker 1: the field already as a rookie, and Lloyd also talked

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Speaker 4: I think that, you know, we need to realize that,

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Speaker 4: uh you know it's the NFL, and you teams are

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Speaker 4: a big lead like that. And then you know, as

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Speaker 4: we've learned the past few years, like every almost every game,

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Speaker 4: finish those games because we've lost too many over the

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Speaker 4: past really four years I have been here, so need

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Speaker 4: to hone in on that. And it's ns come out

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Speaker 4: second half with a stent divergency and pretty much with

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Speaker 4: a zero zero mentality. You know, it doesn't matter what

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Speaker 4: the score is. First ass you know, we got to

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Speaker 4: finish the league both games every week, so you know,

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Speaker 4: best things you need to focus on.

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Speaker 1: Well, Eric Sean Payn pointed out today that the Broncos

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Speaker 1: are tied for league high nineteen penalties right now. We

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Speaker 1: lead the league defensively with twelve. How do you feel

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Speaker 1: like those really affected this game on Sunday?

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Speaker 1: Right, you mentioned the sacks here, Eric, You know, Bronk

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Speaker 1: Well, Eric, you know, head coach Chan Payton said today

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