WEBVTT - The Gillie Da Kid and Wallo Episode

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<v Speaker 1>Get getting boys. It's back and reloaded all in your mind. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>now deep throating. This is for the streets, the reel,

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<v Speaker 1>the railroading, the disenfranchise, the truth, the scapegoating. And they

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<v Speaker 1>ain't knowing we speak the truth, so they ain't quoted

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<v Speaker 1>because we wrote it. The North South East coat g

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<v Speaker 1>b my, keeping your head bobbing. It ain't no stopping.

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<v Speaker 1>It wants to be trip head by then. The system

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<v Speaker 1>is so corrupt they threw the rock out their heads

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<v Speaker 1>and then blame it on us. Don't get it twisted

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<v Speaker 1>on code and me dancing for no buttament biscuits. It's

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<v Speaker 1>Willie d y'all scar facing the building. Collectively, we are

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<v Speaker 1>the ghetto boys. Reloaded, Reloaded with another episode of information

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<v Speaker 1>and instructions to help you navigate through this wild, crazy,

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful world. In the studio getting the kids, Will and

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<v Speaker 1>I was worth a game, Baby reloaded, Baby said the

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<v Speaker 1>game now feeling. Here's two million dollars game. It's going down,

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<v Speaker 1>powerhouses coming together. Yes, this is beautiful, man, it's good

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<v Speaker 1>to see it. We have right now. We had to

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<v Speaker 1>point in over return, Yeah, come in and uh. We

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<v Speaker 1>had the point of number cranking sh up he's so

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<v Speaker 1>hard on. You can't funk man. He's another he's a

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<v Speaker 1>fucking nut. You can't come on, man, I don't pay

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<v Speaker 1>no attention. Actually I really don't. Sleep. Y'all don't see

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<v Speaker 1>all the extra ship that go on before the camera

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<v Speaker 1>come on. So they just looked like when you got

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<v Speaker 1>to deal with this motherfucker for on a daily basis,

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<v Speaker 1>crazy man, and he's still trapped in prison. Everything was

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<v Speaker 1>doing back to the prison, when I was in jail,

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<v Speaker 1>When I was in jail, when I was in jail, Letten, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>you kind of get just relating to journeys in my life.

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<v Speaker 1>If you say something to somebody talking to you about something,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to talk about the moment where you feel

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<v Speaker 1>it though you read something or you know something. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm connected with the moment of oh yeah, I remember

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<v Speaker 1>I was in the joint and we had a conversation

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<v Speaker 1>with somebody about that. Fuck you're talking about some ship.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm gonna talk. I'm gonna related to him. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>talking about Wilder man sleep, I'm talking about when y'all

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<v Speaker 1>gambling playing basketball. You suck with him because a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of times he talked himself into them ass whippings, he

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<v Speaker 1>be the one. What you want to bet and all

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<v Speaker 1>that dumb something like, Bro, I seen I've seen Gilly

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<v Speaker 1>hit a sixty ft and a goal about this day

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<v Speaker 1>on you dog. Yeah, he's been practicing. And then my

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<v Speaker 1>a c l been tendered. So it's a lot of ship.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like it's you know, nig had more excuses than

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<v Speaker 1>they got. They got disrupted while that go, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>surgery ship none unless absolute pleasure to have y'all y'all coming, Bro,

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<v Speaker 1>you know when the o gs come, you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm a hip hop storian, so this is

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<v Speaker 1>always good for me, your contribution to hip hop. A

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<v Speaker 1>lot of young cats probably don't even know how powerful

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<v Speaker 1>y'a was. And how you know when I when I

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<v Speaker 1>see Willie go off on on Instagram, whenever he's saying

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<v Speaker 1>some ship, I'm looking at it different. The reason I'm

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<v Speaker 1>looking at it different because Willie was saying some ship

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<v Speaker 1>when it wasn't. Poperless ship might on your door. When

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<v Speaker 1>you say some ship, uh to a lot of young people,

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<v Speaker 1>y'all gotta understand. Uh. If y'all go back and y'all

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<v Speaker 1>listen to Resurrection, y'all listen to the Point of No Return,

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<v Speaker 1>where you know with J Prince come on there here

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<v Speaker 1>on the phone call talking to like Hoover and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it was like they was taking off on. This is

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<v Speaker 1>one of the greatest songs to get a boys to me,

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<v Speaker 1>this is one of mine's personally, y'all had a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of ship, but this was one of the greatest songs

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<v Speaker 1>because it was so informative. The information. It was like

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<v Speaker 1>black history, Uh, the slaughter of black It was just

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<v Speaker 1>so much in Willie verse. You know, he come on

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<v Speaker 1>and he just go to crazy el Hoover. I wish

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<v Speaker 1>you wasn't there so I could put a bullet in

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<v Speaker 1>your motherfucking head. Got damnag, motherfucking drag queen. I wish

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't put it hit on Mark Luther King, Fred Hampton,

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<v Speaker 1>mackolm and the other ran that pomp motherfucker. It was

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<v Speaker 1>just he didn't Willie didn't get I gotta get Willie

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<v Speaker 1>slis because because Willie was like this, it was no

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram like then people could have knocked on his door

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<v Speaker 1>on some other ship. See, I didn't know that will

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<v Speaker 1>WILLI just was this motherfucker. But he was educating us

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<v Speaker 1>through rap, and it was so much passion and it

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<v Speaker 1>was like he was pissed the funk off, like you

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<v Speaker 1>motherfucker's you know. And then and then and then with

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<v Speaker 1>one of my favorite parts was legendary. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>legendary and it was like and it was like the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that j Prince would even give that exposure and

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<v Speaker 1>get him a vehicle to be able to vent his

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<v Speaker 1>struggle that he was taking place in the system, it

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<v Speaker 1>was like nobody would do that because motherfucker's be scared

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<v Speaker 1>to touch that. And he's he's buried in the prison

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<v Speaker 1>and he's like, yo, man, he's trying to stop my family.

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<v Speaker 1>The clothing they trying to do that. And Jay said, man,

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<v Speaker 1>well listen, you know we're gonna do We gotta sell

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<v Speaker 1>it through the albums. We're gonna sell it through this

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<v Speaker 1>back when they had the tapes and you had the

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<v Speaker 1>pee old box and you had the clothes and the tapes.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember you fold the ship over this story a story

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<v Speaker 1>you're because when you folded it's multiple panels. You had

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<v Speaker 1>the credits, you had who did the beat, who mixed it,

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<v Speaker 1>who engineered the ship, you had anything, the fan club information,

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<v Speaker 1>so so it was real and it was like Willie

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<v Speaker 1>was just like so when I see Willie on the join,

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<v Speaker 1>motherucker may see a motherfucker' saying something to have in

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<v Speaker 1>their opinion. You know, you're talking about the motherfucker that

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<v Speaker 1>was on the front line when it wasn't no line. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Willie has always been like that. And I want to

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<v Speaker 1>introduce the world to uh to Willie Dee's first solo album, Controversy,

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<v Speaker 1>and you'll see how far I had his time that

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<v Speaker 1>Willie was because his first fucking album is unbelievable. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't, I don't, I don't care a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of hip hop in my in my in my phone,

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<v Speaker 1>but I got his album in there, you know. And

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<v Speaker 1>and and his album meant so much to me on

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<v Speaker 1>my rise on meeting me getting into the game, because

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<v Speaker 1>this album was already out when I got with the

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<v Speaker 1>Ghetto Boys. Okay, it's a little hip hop history since

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<v Speaker 1>she loved it so much. Did you know that when

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<v Speaker 1>I joined the Ghetto Boys, Willie d had an album

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<v Speaker 1>get ready to come out already and his project was

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<v Speaker 1>so influential to me and on me until you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to, you know, make music like that. I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to make raps like that. I wanted to be apologetic,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, fuck y'all. And that's how his first album, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't give a funk about none of that. The

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<v Speaker 1>welfare bitches, fu the KKK fuck to all that ship.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta hear Willie Dee's first album controversy, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was a huge influence on on on on the way

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<v Speaker 1>my ship sound. Even today, I'll still take some of

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<v Speaker 1>that ship that Willie said maybe, like, yeah, I gotta

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<v Speaker 1>get some of that ship on my ship. You said

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<v Speaker 1>when you came to the Ghetto Boys, So who was

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<v Speaker 1>the Ghetto Boys before you came to the Ghetto boy

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<v Speaker 1>I let Willie answer that question. He knew all in there,

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<v Speaker 1>so when when when he that was? That's been like

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<v Speaker 1>four different from um, that's been like four different installments

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<v Speaker 1>of the Ghetto Boys before before yeah, before me and

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<v Speaker 1>Brad came. Uh. They very first started off with this

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<v Speaker 1>a single called car Freak and that that was Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that was that was ju box, Um, that was Johnny

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<v Speaker 1>C never made the records. It was started for K nine,

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<v Speaker 1>But can I end up getting arrested to K nine

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<v Speaker 1>is not even on any of the albums any covers

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<v Speaker 1>or nothing singles. Nothing. So the very first installment was

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<v Speaker 1>Raheen ju Box and Johnny C. That's car Freak. And

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<v Speaker 1>then the album, the first album, Making Trouble was Ready

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<v Speaker 1>Red juke Box and Johnny C. Right, and Bill is

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<v Speaker 1>on the cover. But he wasn't rapping. He was just

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<v Speaker 1>a dancer at the time. So he was Bill was

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<v Speaker 1>a dance. He would just he come out and warmed

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<v Speaker 1>the crowd up, you know, and he was Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>would never Willie he was. He was so so yeah

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<v Speaker 1>he turned it out, jump up that and get on

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<v Speaker 1>that stage and just just got a food. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he he would turn it out. You strip out that

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<v Speaker 1>party one year, right, Yeah, he got naked one time,

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<v Speaker 1>not on stage, on the stage, but he was the corner.

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<v Speaker 1>But I didn't know what I was doing that It's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't willingly get naked. Yeah, So that that was

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<v Speaker 1>so So they only had put out one album before

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<v Speaker 1>we came in. I thought it was Johnny C in

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<v Speaker 1>the group. Okay, so that's the that's the first thing. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's okay, So that's Canine. So it was Canine, uh

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<v Speaker 1>Jukebox and Ryanan Okay, that was the first okay, my bad,

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<v Speaker 1>my I stand corrected. Okay, so that's the first and

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<v Speaker 1>then on the album cover they're making Trouble album. Ended

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<v Speaker 1>up buying a carbro car freak. Yeah there making Trouble album.

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<v Speaker 1>Um when I got some money, uh custom. So for

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<v Speaker 1>the making Trouble album, cana I went to jail and

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<v Speaker 1>cana I was replaced with Prince Johnny C. And so

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<v Speaker 1>you had Prince Johnny C juke Box and Ready Red

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<v Speaker 1>and Bushwick was you know on the cover. Yeah. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So when I came in, I started off as a

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<v Speaker 1>writer for the New Ghetto Boys project, but Jay like

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<v Speaker 1>what I was doing so much he asked me to

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<v Speaker 1>join the group. Okay, so because I wrote letter who

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<v Speaker 1>Bia Hoo and do It Like a Jail? Those were

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<v Speaker 1>the first two songs I wrote for Ghetto Boys and

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<v Speaker 1>Jay liked it. He liked what I was doing, and

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<v Speaker 1>he like this this direction I want to go in.

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<v Speaker 1>Because if you listen to that first album that car

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<v Speaker 1>that the Making Trouble, you know it kind of sound.

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<v Speaker 1>It was kind of sound like some run DMC style boy.

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<v Speaker 1>So when I came in, I was like like doing

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<v Speaker 1>like a g o, you know, like I came in,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, uh just going off going like that, and

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<v Speaker 1>he was like, yeah, that's the direction I want to

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<v Speaker 1>take the group in. So he gave the two guys

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<v Speaker 1>in the group and all tomatic, hey man, either y'all

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<v Speaker 1>get with this program or y'all can go solo. But

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<v Speaker 1>this is the way I'm going. Prince downc decided immediately

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<v Speaker 1>he was gonna go solo. Juke Box decided that he

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna be in the group, but so he was

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<v Speaker 1>initially was supposed to still be in the new the

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<v Speaker 1>next installment of the group, but when we all got together,

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<v Speaker 1>j told me like, hey man, I got this other

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<v Speaker 1>guy from the South Side, uh name DJ Action. He

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<v Speaker 1>was talking about Brad because Brad was called DJ Action

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<v Speaker 1>back DJ before all that ship. Yeah, I didn't scratch

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<v Speaker 1>like you wouldn't believe. I DJ the coming parties. It

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter in prison, but go ahead that no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I used to make not I mean to cut you off.

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<v Speaker 1>I used to make mixtapes and I used to I

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<v Speaker 1>used to DJ offer tapes. No I did too, man

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<v Speaker 1>like Oak say, see that's that's when my Jackie was

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<v Speaker 1>not and I just played a tape jacket radio yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and you put the paper going in front of and

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<v Speaker 1>then you blind like that. Yeah, I did that ship

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<v Speaker 1>so so obviously wasn't blood that good outside in here?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I didn't. I didn't grow up DJ and I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't not. I ain't gonna do no, no no, no, just

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta stand And they grew up stealing cars. Go ahead,

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<v Speaker 1>some real ship. He didn't grow up. Listen to rapt

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<v Speaker 1>this last listen this motherfucker tell him the first tape

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<v Speaker 1>you had, but now I used someone else? The first

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<v Speaker 1>rap when you use all this nice when for real

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<v Speaker 1>man here that was in your first da first date

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<v Speaker 1>was be but you have vanill Ice too. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what you're talking about. He want to lie scarf

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<v Speaker 1>like you have enough? You want to fight me? Even

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<v Speaker 1>if that was what front on the name like that

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<v Speaker 1>in front of the what's the first tape? That's the

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<v Speaker 1>first take? Listen to uh, the first tape I was

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<v Speaker 1>listening to was did you own it? Vanilla Ice? Save

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<v Speaker 1>just bed? Did it happen to be home on coming out?

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<v Speaker 1>So you don't want the two else is in the household?

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<v Speaker 1>That may have been nobody else he was he was

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<v Speaker 1>the oldest. Nobody else could listen to rack. She could

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<v Speaker 1>listen listen to money. Right there, you magically had the

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<v Speaker 1>Vanilla Ice in w Was you cruising in your five point,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, with the ragtail down so your hair could blow? No, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>she was. He was listening to fucking Ice Ice speaker.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait a minute, wait, wait, wait while you remember you

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<v Speaker 1>know the words ynxiety, right, I didn't know the worst.

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<v Speaker 1>Give me a pack? Come on, man, you know the worst?

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<v Speaker 1>To come on, man, you cannot said the same words

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<v Speaker 1>over it was you was listening to it. I got

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<v Speaker 1>a story about Vanilla the story. So when I used

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<v Speaker 1>to battle, I started off as a battle rapper and

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<v Speaker 1>Vanilla as Vanilla Ice, used to come from Dallas, him

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<v Speaker 1>and a couple of black dudes. They would come down

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<v Speaker 1>periodically and get in the rap battle contest. And the

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<v Speaker 1>rap battle was twofold. It had one one part of

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<v Speaker 1>it was first you had to qualify by just doing

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<v Speaker 1>a regular rap, and then if you made it to

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<v Speaker 1>the next round, then that's when you rank on each other.

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<v Speaker 1>So I would always end up in the battle rap

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<v Speaker 1>part of it. Vanilla Ice would do his part. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I ain't trying to rag on a dude

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<v Speaker 1>or nothing, but you know it was lack luster, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what he would said to qualify. But they wanted

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<v Speaker 1>him because he had a swag about himself, in a

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<v Speaker 1>confidence about himself, and he really felt like his ship

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<v Speaker 1>was doper than everybody and ship. He just had that

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<v Speaker 1>type of a ship. And people wanted to see him

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<v Speaker 1>in the battle rap part. So they will cheer for

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<v Speaker 1>him to get into the battle rap part, no matter

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<v Speaker 1>what he said in the regular part. And he's coming

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<v Speaker 1>to that battle rap pot and Ki lit the funk

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<v Speaker 1>up and and and so that's how I knew. I

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<v Speaker 1>knew him from way back then when he before he

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<v Speaker 1>got on, Jake let me hear his demo, that ey

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<v Speaker 1>sized baby. I heard the demo and he asked me,

0:14:42.960 --> 0:14:45.760
<v Speaker 1>I didn't just hear it. I saw the VHS tap

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<v Speaker 1>of it. I saw him performing on stage and if

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<v Speaker 1>they're dancing, and he asked me what I was kids,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't understand it was a VCR, I asked him.

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<v Speaker 1>And when he asked me what I thought about it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I said, he white and you can dance. I

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<v Speaker 1>signed him, you know, Oh so j Prince had a

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<v Speaker 1>chance to sign h Yeah, he missed it. He missed it.

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<v Speaker 1>Damn Yeah, he was like he said, I said he,

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<v Speaker 1>I said he white. Actually, I said he white. He

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<v Speaker 1>can't wrap that good, but he can dance. I signed

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<v Speaker 1>him and ship man. It wasn't even two months later.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, man, it was ice ice baby will don't

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<v Speaker 1>do it everywhere? And he hit the song. He anybody

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<v Speaker 1>knew that boys for the fans, Dude, don't put me

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<v Speaker 1>in that ship. He don't put him. Did he notice

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<v Speaker 1>me and that ship? He probably he probably he noticed that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm that you At least one time we got splitting.

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<v Speaker 1>The came out to speaking. But you know what, Man

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<v Speaker 1>Vanilli is credit man. I really do have to give

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<v Speaker 1>him credit. He had what it took to get into

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<v Speaker 1>the game. You know, he had hustled everybody. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>he had hustled everybody else, and he had he had

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<v Speaker 1>supreme confidence in himself. So this is when other people

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<v Speaker 1>didn't really care for him, and other people like laughing,

0:16:25.640 --> 0:16:29.160
<v Speaker 1>and he was like, yall, he just didn't care what

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<v Speaker 1>everybody else was saying. It was like he was numb

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<v Speaker 1>to it. He was deaf to what everybody was saying.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like he got in the lane and he just

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<v Speaker 1>put those hearts blind his own and he just went forward.

0:16:38.600 --> 0:16:41.160
<v Speaker 1>So I give him credit for that. If he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have that, he probably wouldn't have made it. But a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people, a lot of a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>got after kind of like, uh, play a mind game

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<v Speaker 1>with themselves, you know, makeum believe themselves as more than

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<v Speaker 1>actually what they are. Because did that? But I mean

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<v Speaker 1>because because at the end of the day, you already

0:17:03.240 --> 0:17:07.080
<v Speaker 1>felt as though. I didn't even feel that. I just

0:17:07.119 --> 0:17:09.600
<v Speaker 1>felt like I was. I was trying to get in

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<v Speaker 1>while where I fit in, and I wouldn't. I wouldn't

0:17:12.880 --> 0:17:16.280
<v Speaker 1>overly fucking think I can wrap like a motherfucker. Yeah,

0:17:16.400 --> 0:17:18.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't think you will, he will not think, but

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. He wasn't like that in the beginning. But

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<v Speaker 1>when his ship got hot, are you over that? You

0:17:30.080 --> 0:17:32.800
<v Speaker 1>have some growing it? He didn't let you have some

0:17:32.880 --> 0:17:35.600
<v Speaker 1>growing to do? Face listen, listen. Oh So when did it?

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<v Speaker 1>What's the air part? You? Memanb We always just on

0:17:37.040 --> 0:17:39.960
<v Speaker 1>Brothers Club. He said, ain't nobody fucking with me? I said,

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, nobody want to funk with me? Where did

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<v Speaker 1>that come up? With the energy? Ye? When you energy? Na,

0:17:47.080 --> 0:17:50.520
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't back then, right, now that nah, that that

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<v Speaker 1>energy started, he isn't that energy probably started in ninety two.

0:18:04.359 --> 0:18:06.199
<v Speaker 1>I'm just I'm just you know, you gotta have that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of intality. What I was listening to catalog like

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<v Speaker 1>I robed my son man, and We'll be listening to

0:18:14.359 --> 0:18:17.800
<v Speaker 1>my catalog and I'll be like, you know what, Chris Well,

0:18:17.800 --> 0:18:21.320
<v Speaker 1>I was a bad motherfucker. And this one morning y'all

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<v Speaker 1>just called me on the bad because I just got

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<v Speaker 1>through listening to my ship and he was like, who

0:18:26.200 --> 0:18:28.280
<v Speaker 1>you want to do a versions with? I don't know,

0:18:28.320 --> 0:18:31.760
<v Speaker 1>nobody want to with me. I just started ninth. I

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<v Speaker 1>can go back to nine two right now, to nineteen

0:18:35.640 --> 0:18:38.880
<v Speaker 1>ninety now now, and if a motherfuck you keep up

0:18:38.960 --> 0:18:43.679
<v Speaker 1>with that catalog face again, that's a bad that's a

0:18:43.760 --> 0:18:50.280
<v Speaker 1>mother man eight nine. When I stopped Willie sixteen, it

0:18:50.400 --> 0:18:52.760
<v Speaker 1>was a bad motherfucker. But you know one thing, face

0:18:52.840 --> 0:18:55.199
<v Speaker 1>one of my favorite songs that yours, and it was

0:18:55.240 --> 0:18:58.480
<v Speaker 1>just that. That's why I quit right there, cos Nika

0:18:58.520 --> 0:19:00.720
<v Speaker 1>got a favorite song of mine. Well, I got you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying, I'm I'm a I'm a fan. I

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<v Speaker 1>got to I'm just and you if you had a

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<v Speaker 1>h if you had a zoo. You guess you would

0:19:09.000 --> 0:19:14.800
<v Speaker 1>never guess my favorite song one of them. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>on a diary. I forget the name of the album.

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<v Speaker 1>But listen, I'm gonna tell you. I know what the

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<v Speaker 1>name of it was. It wasn't You by Yourself? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so was wasn't Nope, I'm gonna tell you my favorite joint.

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<v Speaker 1>It was on your Your label mate was on there?

0:19:33.520 --> 0:19:38.520
<v Speaker 1>Who's your label mate? Money? No, he was on Tony Draper.

0:19:38.560 --> 0:19:42.280
<v Speaker 1>Suave House was on my record? Okay, so was it

0:19:42.400 --> 0:19:48.600
<v Speaker 1>Heaven No? So nothing? Uh Tony was Tony didn't rap? No, No,

0:19:48.800 --> 0:19:51.600
<v Speaker 1>Tony Draper had Suave House Records. That's what label he

0:19:51.640 --> 0:19:54.320
<v Speaker 1>was on. I'm telling him his label. Meet you signed

0:19:54.320 --> 0:19:59.680
<v Speaker 1>a suave I know you did catch to the first

0:19:59.680 --> 0:20:10.119
<v Speaker 1>come on Armed Robbery Remix. Yeah, you first person because

0:20:10.119 --> 0:20:22.080
<v Speaker 1>he forgot even face forgot the Prince was the first

0:20:22.080 --> 0:20:27.680
<v Speaker 1>thing they got read from ain't nor from I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what the funk. I was running Happy, we go,

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<v Speaker 1>we go, I get signed the swive House, right do

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<v Speaker 1>they don't? We're going now get it. We're gonna park

0:20:41.680 --> 0:20:44.240
<v Speaker 1>a lot pimping. I'm thinking this is a fucking club

0:20:44.359 --> 0:20:46.800
<v Speaker 1>man all damn like, yeah, we're gonna park a lot

0:20:46.840 --> 0:20:49.360
<v Speaker 1>pimper laid on. Yeah, I mean this is ninety nine.

0:20:49.359 --> 0:20:52.280
<v Speaker 1>I've never heard of no fucking parking lot. Pimpe bro.

0:20:52.600 --> 0:20:56.360
<v Speaker 1>We pull up, they get off the cars and we're

0:20:56.400 --> 0:20:59.760
<v Speaker 1>chilling in the parking lot, and I'm like, I'm like

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<v Speaker 1>to name it was the name of the club. I

0:21:04.720 --> 0:21:06.919
<v Speaker 1>can remember back to what you remember what day it was,

0:21:06.960 --> 0:21:08.680
<v Speaker 1>I can tell you the club it was. I think

0:21:08.720 --> 0:21:15.120
<v Speaker 1>it was the weekend. So mad be sitting there and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we eight balling. All the bitches is out and you

0:21:18.040 --> 0:21:21.520
<v Speaker 1>know we am sorry. I put it to give the cool.

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<v Speaker 1>And then next thing I know, motherfucker said, I think

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<v Speaker 1>J Prince get in the car. Gilly like, J Prince,

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<v Speaker 1>get in the car. The nigger. I'm in the car.

0:21:36.560 --> 0:21:41.480
<v Speaker 1>It's driveling like this. So I'm like, oh, man, so

0:21:41.640 --> 0:21:45.199
<v Speaker 1>now I'm up under the dead. You ain't seen nobody. Now,

0:21:45.240 --> 0:21:47.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't know who the fun jake Princess. Man, I

0:21:47.760 --> 0:21:51.480
<v Speaker 1>ain't did nothing to nobody. I'm nobody who said you

0:21:51.640 --> 0:21:57.159
<v Speaker 1>said ball? I ain't got no pistol ball and say it.

0:21:57.440 --> 0:22:01.800
<v Speaker 1>Somebody else screamed out, rapping to take Prince he wos

0:22:01.960 --> 0:22:08.320
<v Speaker 1>getting the carcase that happens with So when we pull

0:22:08.359 --> 0:22:11.879
<v Speaker 1>the funk off and we get out of there, I

0:22:12.000 --> 0:22:14.560
<v Speaker 1>get right back to the motherfucking studio and drip. I

0:22:14.560 --> 0:22:17.000
<v Speaker 1>ain't never going to the motherfun club again. Next Monte

0:22:17.680 --> 0:22:20.000
<v Speaker 1>Motherfucker's had me running from a nicker named Jay Prince. Man.

0:22:20.000 --> 0:22:21.960
<v Speaker 1>I never ran from a nigger in my life. Man.

0:22:22.680 --> 0:22:26.399
<v Speaker 1>That was the last up about it. But it was

0:22:26.480 --> 0:22:35.879
<v Speaker 1>funny part about it is Drape was laughing thinking about that.

0:22:36.520 --> 0:22:40.160
<v Speaker 1>So for me, it was just like it was like

0:22:42.800 --> 0:22:44.800
<v Speaker 1>I just ran from a nigger. I don't know, Like

0:22:44.880 --> 0:22:48.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know why we run it. You're fucking

0:22:48.520 --> 0:22:50.399
<v Speaker 1>right when you see a nigger up under that stand,

0:22:50.440 --> 0:22:54.200
<v Speaker 1>will you all this just ship? Some ship ray starts

0:22:54.200 --> 0:23:02.640
<v Speaker 1>flying through this we got and they cook a man

0:23:02.680 --> 0:23:04.720
<v Speaker 1>and ain't no cooker come out. Man, we can talk.

0:23:04.760 --> 0:23:07.240
<v Speaker 1>I did the dashboard man about a nigga. I don't know.

0:23:07.760 --> 0:23:10.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm never going to funk out with new niggas again. Man,

0:23:10.520 --> 0:23:16.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry. Niggas for life was my introduction in Houston. Man,

0:23:16.600 --> 0:23:18.800
<v Speaker 1>you said that we want the parking lot of pimp

0:23:18.800 --> 0:23:20.160
<v Speaker 1>And the next thing I know, I was up under

0:23:20.160 --> 0:23:23.040
<v Speaker 1>the motherfucking what's the glove of something joint pulling the

0:23:23.080 --> 0:23:26.120
<v Speaker 1>funk off for no reason. I ain't did nothing to nobody.

0:23:26.160 --> 0:23:28.560
<v Speaker 1>Man from Philadelphia, don't know no fuckingbody out here. Man,

0:23:29.320 --> 0:23:30.960
<v Speaker 1>they had you on the mission. I'm running from the

0:23:31.000 --> 0:23:34.560
<v Speaker 1>minute that you connect with Drake. I connected with Drake

0:23:34.640 --> 0:23:37.879
<v Speaker 1>because uh, it was a bit and war going on

0:23:38.760 --> 0:23:41.920
<v Speaker 1>from with all the record labels up North. And then

0:23:42.280 --> 0:23:45.120
<v Speaker 1>my lawyer called me and said, you you ever heard

0:23:45.119 --> 0:23:49.199
<v Speaker 1>of swave House And I'm like, yeah, that's like with

0:23:50.040 --> 0:23:54.480
<v Speaker 1>eight Ball and like yeah, yeah, he said, you know

0:23:54.840 --> 0:24:02.760
<v Speaker 1>they just one platinum, Yeah, on a dependent. So for

0:24:02.800 --> 0:24:06.120
<v Speaker 1>me it was like, okay, I already got up North

0:24:06.200 --> 0:24:09.640
<v Speaker 1>as an independent. If I go down there and get

0:24:09.720 --> 0:24:15.800
<v Speaker 1>with them, motherfucker's it's on. I was thinking about both sides, like,

0:24:16.040 --> 0:24:19.000
<v Speaker 1>hold on, I'm an East Coast nigga already got this.

0:24:19.080 --> 0:24:21.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm already running around doing shows everywhere. If I go

0:24:21.920 --> 0:24:25.800
<v Speaker 1>get with them, it's so. And when I got with Drake,

0:24:26.000 --> 0:24:29.480
<v Speaker 1>Drake had that same type of mentality, like I mean,

0:24:29.560 --> 0:24:32.080
<v Speaker 1>we was in a meeting up in Universal and he

0:24:32.280 --> 0:24:35.679
<v Speaker 1>like he need to do something with Nellie. This is

0:24:35.720 --> 0:24:38.560
<v Speaker 1>before Nellie was even out Drake was not trying to

0:24:38.600 --> 0:24:41.720
<v Speaker 1>hear that ship. He like, man, I'm trying to drop

0:24:41.760 --> 0:24:44.280
<v Speaker 1>this sick and now like you got good crack cocaine,

0:24:44.440 --> 0:24:49.919
<v Speaker 1>you put it anywhere. I got good crack cocaine. What's

0:24:49.920 --> 0:24:52.440
<v Speaker 1>going on? Like so, but he was going through something

0:24:52.480 --> 0:24:57.160
<v Speaker 1>internally with his situation. So then when he got out,

0:24:57.840 --> 0:25:01.760
<v Speaker 1>yeah I got Yeah. So then when he what decided

0:25:01.840 --> 0:25:05.320
<v Speaker 1>to go off a universal or whatever he did, I

0:25:05.359 --> 0:25:08.720
<v Speaker 1>was doing a concert in Philly and cash money was

0:25:08.800 --> 0:25:13.240
<v Speaker 1>there and that's when baby approached me, like so me

0:25:13.320 --> 0:25:15.240
<v Speaker 1>and we got with Drake, We did the business, and

0:25:15.240 --> 0:25:17.880
<v Speaker 1>then I want from nil over the cash money. Yeah,

0:25:17.960 --> 0:25:20.600
<v Speaker 1>and that's how that happened. How didn end up with

0:25:20.640 --> 0:25:25.639
<v Speaker 1>cash when I ain't sell no publishing? So you know

0:25:25.800 --> 0:25:31.800
<v Speaker 1>kind of know how that ended up. Man, I've heard

0:25:31.840 --> 0:25:34.200
<v Speaker 1>a lot of your stuff, right and and and you

0:25:34.640 --> 0:25:38.240
<v Speaker 1>you cold blooded with the lyrics no ship like, man,

0:25:40.040 --> 0:25:43.199
<v Speaker 1>do you ever like I wrote, I roached a lot

0:25:43.240 --> 0:25:44.960
<v Speaker 1>of this stuff out there. Man, I was I was

0:25:45.000 --> 0:25:47.800
<v Speaker 1>one of his writers. Man, how how do you how

0:25:47.840 --> 0:25:52.000
<v Speaker 1>do you how do you? How do you feel? How

0:25:52.040 --> 0:25:55.760
<v Speaker 1>do you feel about knowing we're not feeling but knowing

0:25:56.680 --> 0:26:00.040
<v Speaker 1>that you got what it? Texts and you want of

0:26:00.160 --> 0:26:04.760
<v Speaker 1>the top dude, that's you top spitter and not having

0:26:05.119 --> 0:26:07.760
<v Speaker 1>to get up that hit that peak. What everybody know

0:26:08.400 --> 0:26:12.000
<v Speaker 1>you for your music and not just some dude that

0:26:12.480 --> 0:26:19.080
<v Speaker 1>you know hopped on the internet and became known whatever. Whatever.

0:26:20.040 --> 0:26:24.320
<v Speaker 1>Understand I'm talking I'm talking about I'm talking universal. I'm

0:26:24.359 --> 0:26:27.679
<v Speaker 1>talking about everywhere. I'm talking about where everybody know Gilly,

0:26:27.760 --> 0:26:31.199
<v Speaker 1>that dude, Gilly the kid is that dude. I just

0:26:31.200 --> 0:26:35.159
<v Speaker 1>want to like, there's no disrespect with but for you

0:26:35.200 --> 0:26:36.680
<v Speaker 1>to say some of the things you said, I don't

0:26:36.680 --> 0:26:38.000
<v Speaker 1>know if you was a little I don't know if

0:26:38.000 --> 0:26:40.960
<v Speaker 1>you had a drink. This dude was doing. He was

0:26:41.000 --> 0:26:42.520
<v Speaker 1>a boy, he was a board he was too doing

0:26:42.560 --> 0:26:44.800
<v Speaker 1>board tours. You're hyping. You're giving him a little too

0:26:44.880 --> 0:26:47.199
<v Speaker 1>much any man, Like, No, you're giving him a lot,

0:26:47.280 --> 0:26:56.119
<v Speaker 1>Like like you really I think much of talking about you.

0:26:58.480 --> 0:27:01.879
<v Speaker 1>He did two tours. Bars abound the country, the neighbor

0:27:01.920 --> 0:27:04.280
<v Speaker 1>with bars. This motherfucker wasn't know. He's just playing the

0:27:04.359 --> 0:27:07.160
<v Speaker 1>fucking arenas or amphitheaters. You're keeping them all this, You're

0:27:07.200 --> 0:27:12.360
<v Speaker 1>like what you know? You know? In defense to your

0:27:12.400 --> 0:27:17.280
<v Speaker 1>conduct and defense defense in defense of your comments. Then

0:27:17.359 --> 0:27:21.240
<v Speaker 1>some of the greatest singers and entertainers and talented people

0:27:21.920 --> 0:27:27.680
<v Speaker 1>playing bars every night. No, no, but I'm Willie ride

0:27:27.760 --> 0:27:30.840
<v Speaker 1>with that ship, going on that ship. Your face back

0:27:30.880 --> 0:27:32.359
<v Speaker 1>down off that. She was like, yeah, he's bout right.

0:27:32.400 --> 0:27:38.600
<v Speaker 1>He ain't linking fighting. Man, Come on, why you keep

0:27:38.600 --> 0:27:41.720
<v Speaker 1>putting me in that ship? Say listen, face, you put

0:27:41.760 --> 0:27:44.920
<v Speaker 1>me in that ship here. A legend is a legend, man.

0:27:44.960 --> 0:27:47.720
<v Speaker 1>Don't get sucked up these dudes giving you votes and ship.

0:27:47.840 --> 0:27:50.479
<v Speaker 1>I don't even like it felt like it felt like,

0:27:50.560 --> 0:27:53.159
<v Speaker 1>you know, I knew what I was up against. So

0:27:54.480 --> 0:27:57.399
<v Speaker 1>because you know, Jay tried to sign me when I

0:27:57.400 --> 0:27:59.880
<v Speaker 1>when we turned that situation down because it wasn't right.

0:28:00.040 --> 0:28:01.840
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. I pretty much knew what

0:28:01.880 --> 0:28:06.120
<v Speaker 1>I was up against. It was up with jay Z.

0:28:06.560 --> 0:28:08.679
<v Speaker 1>It was sucked up. I mean, it wasn't right. You know.

0:28:08.760 --> 0:28:10.960
<v Speaker 1>When when I went to Tony Draper, you know, it

0:28:11.040 --> 0:28:12.640
<v Speaker 1>was like what you want? I was like, I want

0:28:12.720 --> 0:28:14.439
<v Speaker 1>half a million dollars. I want to hunt it up,

0:28:14.440 --> 0:28:16.880
<v Speaker 1>I want to hunt it up front. I want fifteen points.

0:28:16.960 --> 0:28:19.040
<v Speaker 1>I want to bump a goal. I want bumping platinum

0:28:19.119 --> 0:28:22.400
<v Speaker 1>drapers like I ain't never gave nobody to build Tony Draper.

0:28:22.840 --> 0:28:27.680
<v Speaker 1>He said, I never gave nobody talking about man because

0:28:27.680 --> 0:28:30.639
<v Speaker 1>I was in every label talking or were you talking

0:28:30.640 --> 0:28:36.840
<v Speaker 1>about the fifth started fifteen and then to two? Yeah,

0:28:37.280 --> 0:28:42.000
<v Speaker 1>but I was a young I was getting what right,

0:28:42.200 --> 0:28:45.719
<v Speaker 1>So you know, for me it was like, uh, you know,

0:28:45.800 --> 0:28:48.200
<v Speaker 1>Drake was like, I ain't never gave nobody. I said, okay, cool,

0:28:48.200 --> 0:28:49.640
<v Speaker 1>I funk with you, Drape, but I'm you know, I

0:28:49.680 --> 0:28:51.560
<v Speaker 1>gotta go back to Philly. He said, you know what,

0:28:51.640 --> 0:28:54.440
<v Speaker 1>you got that and then we did the business and

0:28:54.480 --> 0:28:57.160
<v Speaker 1>then you know, for whatever reason, I just feel like

0:28:57.200 --> 0:28:58.880
<v Speaker 1>now when I look at my life, I feel like

0:28:59.280 --> 0:29:01.560
<v Speaker 1>God never gave to me through all that bullshit to

0:29:01.560 --> 0:29:04.480
<v Speaker 1>get why I am right now? You feel what I'm saying.

0:29:04.520 --> 0:29:06.360
<v Speaker 1>And now while Matt, while I'm at right now, I'm

0:29:06.360 --> 0:29:09.840
<v Speaker 1>gonna kick their ass. I'm I'm gonna kick their ass

0:29:10.200 --> 0:29:12.960
<v Speaker 1>every day, you know, jay Z or what I'm saying,

0:29:12.960 --> 0:29:15.160
<v Speaker 1>because a lot of motherfucker's had me doing security at

0:29:15.240 --> 0:29:18.680
<v Speaker 1>Ross right now. You know what I'm saying. Point motherfucker's

0:29:18.720 --> 0:29:22.320
<v Speaker 1>to the uh the irregular polo t s and ship. Yeah,

0:29:23.000 --> 0:29:25.720
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, do some type of U

0:29:26.360 --> 0:29:28.800
<v Speaker 1>segment of some type of where you go out and

0:29:29.000 --> 0:29:32.120
<v Speaker 1>work a regular job because you just wanted to let

0:29:32.120 --> 0:29:37.240
<v Speaker 1>people know that this could have been security at Ross.

0:29:37.280 --> 0:29:39.360
<v Speaker 1>Did you do what? Did you have? You ever worked

0:29:39.360 --> 0:29:42.800
<v Speaker 1>for Ross before? And let you do it? Don't work?

0:29:42.960 --> 0:29:45.400
<v Speaker 1>They let you do it. Yeah, working with my security

0:29:45.480 --> 0:29:47.360
<v Speaker 1>jacket on and anything, just to get the feeling of

0:29:47.400 --> 0:29:49.520
<v Speaker 1>what he would have been. I'm gonna do that. I

0:29:49.600 --> 0:29:51.800
<v Speaker 1>stay two hours. I'm gonna go do that because I

0:29:51.840 --> 0:29:54.800
<v Speaker 1>noticed where these niggers had me. Where you gonna work

0:29:54.800 --> 0:30:02.920
<v Speaker 1>at ain't that's just crazy. He's not gonna go to

0:30:03.080 --> 0:30:05.640
<v Speaker 1>he's doughnuts, doesn't get fat. No, I'm gonna say this.

0:30:05.640 --> 0:30:09.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna take it back to this my favorite song.

0:30:09.280 --> 0:30:11.480
<v Speaker 1>And jay Z is a good nigga man. He's a

0:30:11.560 --> 0:30:14.560
<v Speaker 1>good man for real. I don't think jay Z is

0:30:14.560 --> 0:30:16.480
<v Speaker 1>a good name. I think he's a good dude, a

0:30:16.480 --> 0:30:23.360
<v Speaker 1>good man, a man. I used to don't like that.

0:30:23.560 --> 0:30:29.960
<v Speaker 1>That's right, Willie. Now I'm gonna say this, you shut

0:30:31.120 --> 0:30:35.520
<v Speaker 1>Tyler faces. Oh that was just a cool record to me.

0:30:35.640 --> 0:30:37.920
<v Speaker 1>You know, that was just like I did that record.

0:30:38.800 --> 0:30:40.920
<v Speaker 1>I was I made the bet for the record and

0:30:40.960 --> 0:30:47.680
<v Speaker 1>too Short came in uh and um we we did

0:30:47.720 --> 0:30:51.040
<v Speaker 1>our part at the same time. It was me and

0:30:51.240 --> 0:30:58.360
<v Speaker 1>Short and Dad because Dad was in the studio. Yeah,

0:30:58.480 --> 0:31:00.680
<v Speaker 1>the whole time we would go to this must be

0:31:01.000 --> 0:31:05.480
<v Speaker 1>used to all the finest thing hip hop history. He

0:31:05.600 --> 0:31:09.080
<v Speaker 1>love it, Yes, I love it. Come on Rahem the

0:31:09.120 --> 0:31:15.440
<v Speaker 1>bench at Anti brote that hook? Yeah, damn, how did

0:31:15.440 --> 0:31:18.920
<v Speaker 1>you get right in the studio Devin to do the

0:31:18.960 --> 0:31:27.160
<v Speaker 1>hook in? Raheim is from what Philly or Chicago? I

0:31:27.200 --> 0:31:30.680
<v Speaker 1>think he's from Philadelphia? Maybe New Jersey? No, no, no,

0:31:30.720 --> 0:31:33.600
<v Speaker 1>he's not from New Jersey. He's from New Jersey. He

0:31:33.680 --> 0:31:36.360
<v Speaker 1>maybe e from Philly. I gotta ask one got checked

0:31:36.360 --> 0:31:41.160
<v Speaker 1>into that? Yeah, right is from Are you sure? How

0:31:41.200 --> 0:31:43.240
<v Speaker 1>long did it take them? Like that whole studio session

0:31:43.520 --> 0:31:46.920
<v Speaker 1>was was? I just no? He wasn't there, And I

0:31:46.960 --> 0:31:53.640
<v Speaker 1>think that here's a thing. Uh. J Prince was signing

0:31:53.680 --> 0:31:57.040
<v Speaker 1>Teeler to wrap a lot, so what better way to

0:31:57.160 --> 0:32:00.640
<v Speaker 1>introduce him to He was leaving swaps, leave the swap,

0:32:00.680 --> 0:32:05.280
<v Speaker 1>come in to rapp alte, so James put him on faces.

0:32:05.440 --> 0:32:08.920
<v Speaker 1>At the end, it was just me, Short and Devon

0:32:09.360 --> 0:32:11.800
<v Speaker 1>m He talked that ship and then Tiva came in

0:32:11.920 --> 0:32:16.560
<v Speaker 1>at the end. Yeah, those beats you made it hot.

0:32:17.320 --> 0:32:20.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean this ship was crashed before you know, you know,

0:32:20.880 --> 0:32:25.360
<v Speaker 1>he don't. I'm gonna just say this because you listen,

0:32:25.400 --> 0:32:27.600
<v Speaker 1>I ain't gonna fund man, Like because if you look

0:32:27.600 --> 0:32:28.880
<v Speaker 1>at the record, if you look at this, if you

0:32:28.920 --> 0:32:31.320
<v Speaker 1>look at the record right now, you must be used

0:32:31.320 --> 0:32:33.320
<v Speaker 1>to all the finding things and that's your weight to

0:32:33.400 --> 0:32:36.800
<v Speaker 1>buy with money. That's right now. It was straight money,

0:32:37.280 --> 0:32:39.840
<v Speaker 1>you dude going and taking a shopping I mean, you

0:32:39.960 --> 0:32:42.360
<v Speaker 1>see the whole people game he knocking like you've seen

0:32:42.440 --> 0:32:48.080
<v Speaker 1>the whole games come in a ship? Yeah yeah, it

0:32:48.160 --> 0:32:50.600
<v Speaker 1>was cool man. Yeah. But but a lot of a

0:32:50.600 --> 0:32:54.280
<v Speaker 1>lot of um, a lot of beats that I made

0:32:54.480 --> 0:33:00.760
<v Speaker 1>for that album, uh, transpired when people came in town

0:33:00.840 --> 0:33:04.040
<v Speaker 1>and wanted to do some music, you know, like okay,

0:33:04.560 --> 0:33:14.840
<v Speaker 1>put the headphones on. And first I was y and

0:33:14.920 --> 0:33:17.800
<v Speaker 1>like I was telling annoying them like I'm I'm probably

0:33:17.840 --> 0:33:21.000
<v Speaker 1>a way better producer than I am a fucking rapper,

0:33:22.280 --> 0:33:26.000
<v Speaker 1>Like for real, thinks I think it beats? All right? Yeah?

0:33:27.680 --> 0:33:30.040
<v Speaker 1>He will? You be on point, man, you know you're

0:33:30.120 --> 0:33:34.720
<v Speaker 1>you're fucking you know, like I feel like the beats

0:33:34.760 --> 0:33:39.840
<v Speaker 1>somebody else possibly could have done. But the lyrics, nah,

0:33:39.920 --> 0:33:42.880
<v Speaker 1>you're fucking lyrics. That's the ship. That's where you. That's

0:33:42.880 --> 0:33:45.480
<v Speaker 1>where you really get off at, you know. And I'm

0:33:45.480 --> 0:33:47.160
<v Speaker 1>gonna tell you, I think the fans agree with me

0:33:47.200 --> 0:33:49.840
<v Speaker 1>because they love the beats and ship. But when people

0:33:50.280 --> 0:33:53.360
<v Speaker 1>think of you, the reason why people are so dear

0:33:53.480 --> 0:33:55.840
<v Speaker 1>to you is because of how you make them feel

0:33:55.880 --> 0:33:58.880
<v Speaker 1>with your lyrics, the words that you say. That is

0:33:58.920 --> 0:34:01.600
<v Speaker 1>the ship that's so people on you. That ship was strong.

0:34:02.880 --> 0:34:05.000
<v Speaker 1>I know that I made the beat too, Willie. Where

0:34:05.040 --> 0:34:07.640
<v Speaker 1>they know now and they ain't they they're still not

0:34:07.840 --> 0:34:10.319
<v Speaker 1>like that, ain't no, no, no, no, Now they fucking

0:34:10.360 --> 0:34:12.040
<v Speaker 1>know that I did to be too, Willie. And they

0:34:12.400 --> 0:34:14.439
<v Speaker 1>now that. Now they know that you did the beat

0:34:14.480 --> 0:34:18.520
<v Speaker 1>and ship and that's cool. Hold now he got there

0:34:18.520 --> 0:34:20.520
<v Speaker 1>because he needs to hear this ship. He got to

0:34:20.520 --> 0:34:24.480
<v Speaker 1>hear this. Now you got to hear this ship. Yeah, okay,

0:34:24.480 --> 0:34:27.040
<v Speaker 1>Now now that they know you made the beast right,

0:34:28.200 --> 0:34:32.160
<v Speaker 1>and still are they talking about you being right now

0:34:32.360 --> 0:34:37.720
<v Speaker 1>lyricist or a top five producer. Get in your motherfucking lane,

0:34:37.840 --> 0:34:44.840
<v Speaker 1>man and accept it. Your motherfucking beats all right, Prince.

0:34:46.040 --> 0:34:50.799
<v Speaker 1>Nobody nigging your music but yourself. Kids now the best.

0:34:50.920 --> 0:34:53.239
<v Speaker 1>Don't bear the motherfucker. But I can see what say

0:34:53.320 --> 0:34:55.359
<v Speaker 1>like if I heard the beats and ship. If I

0:34:55.400 --> 0:34:57.760
<v Speaker 1>just heard your beats and ship, I would say, Okay,

0:34:57.800 --> 0:34:59.959
<v Speaker 1>that's a dope producer, right, that's dope. It's dope's dope.

0:35:00.120 --> 0:35:04.120
<v Speaker 1>Will you well the motherfucking lyrics? Bro? Will you wrapped

0:35:04.120 --> 0:35:06.279
<v Speaker 1>on my ship? Man? Yeah? I did. You're like, yeah,

0:35:06.280 --> 0:35:08.320
<v Speaker 1>that ship dumped in the motherfucker it is. But I

0:35:08.360 --> 0:35:12.560
<v Speaker 1>ain't motherfucking you know, I'm not top five alive on

0:35:12.600 --> 0:35:15.520
<v Speaker 1>the beat Ton. He never you wasn't putting it out

0:35:15.520 --> 0:35:18.120
<v Speaker 1>there that you was making the beats back then because

0:35:18.200 --> 0:35:21.719
<v Speaker 1>I never knew you was making the beats. Yeah, yeah, hell.

0:35:21.840 --> 0:35:24.319
<v Speaker 1>He always kind of had dibbling, dabbling and ship, even

0:35:24.560 --> 0:35:26.839
<v Speaker 1>even with the ghetto boys. She pulled us some here,

0:35:27.360 --> 0:35:30.280
<v Speaker 1>going that motherfucking do this. This is very very stages

0:35:30.360 --> 0:35:32.440
<v Speaker 1>when he before he really took off as a producer.

0:35:32.840 --> 0:35:35.960
<v Speaker 1>He's going that motherfucking you know, just heard sucking around

0:35:36.000 --> 0:35:38.880
<v Speaker 1>it and he kind of like morphed in the really produce.

0:35:38.960 --> 0:35:40.960
<v Speaker 1>But you really wasn't put that was more behind the

0:35:41.000 --> 0:35:45.080
<v Speaker 1>scenes right that you probably you probably wouldn't know unless

0:35:45.040 --> 0:35:47.080
<v Speaker 1>you read in the credits or something. That's when you know.

0:35:47.280 --> 0:35:50.600
<v Speaker 1>So he got it. He actually has a musical background

0:35:51.040 --> 0:35:52.960
<v Speaker 1>and and this is why I like if you listened

0:35:53.000 --> 0:35:56.960
<v Speaker 1>to like his albums versus my albums, it's it's album solo.

0:35:57.000 --> 0:35:59.440
<v Speaker 1>Ship is way better than my ship production. No, yes,

0:35:59.600 --> 0:36:01.520
<v Speaker 1>you just wanted to fight. You didn't want to make

0:36:01.520 --> 0:36:03.879
<v Speaker 1>no fucking records. You wanted to squabble. I didn't want

0:36:03.880 --> 0:36:05.920
<v Speaker 1>to squad ship. I didn't want a squad. I was

0:36:05.960 --> 0:36:09.080
<v Speaker 1>just trying to teach people, giving people information. He navigate

0:36:09.239 --> 0:36:12.399
<v Speaker 1>this crazy really would make an album to get ready

0:36:12.440 --> 0:36:13.560
<v Speaker 1>to go on to us so we can go out

0:36:13.640 --> 0:36:16.560
<v Speaker 1>and fight. That's a lie to go out and fight.

0:36:16.600 --> 0:36:20.040
<v Speaker 1>Did you see how to fight? Because that lie rolled

0:36:20.120 --> 0:36:25.800
<v Speaker 1>off his tongue like people who support systemic races. It

0:36:26.000 --> 0:36:31.640
<v Speaker 1>just right. I don't even like he wasn't trying to

0:36:31.640 --> 0:36:36.959
<v Speaker 1>fight boyshit man. Okay, so I can count at least

0:36:37.040 --> 0:36:40.040
<v Speaker 1>five fights we had on tour when when when we

0:36:40.040 --> 0:36:41.840
<v Speaker 1>was on tour Public Enemy Wait, hold on wait it

0:36:41.880 --> 0:36:47.279
<v Speaker 1>Willie started all of them? Was it William wasn't then? No? No, no, no,

0:36:47.320 --> 0:36:52.440
<v Speaker 1>I never had to drink to get Yeah, who was

0:36:52.440 --> 0:36:55.759
<v Speaker 1>really fight with? Just whoever? Then wanted to fight? The man?

0:36:55.840 --> 0:36:59.880
<v Speaker 1>Beat up the sound man will be the sound kicked them,

0:37:00.120 --> 0:37:04.600
<v Speaker 1>sucking the head for touching his feet on stage. Listen.

0:37:04.640 --> 0:37:09.120
<v Speaker 1>I was just defending myself. The colder ship I ever

0:37:09.160 --> 0:37:14.080
<v Speaker 1>seen cold, the cold sh that I ever seen. We

0:37:14.080 --> 0:37:17.719
<v Speaker 1>was in baton rouge, riding around and then somebody's like, yeah,

0:37:17.760 --> 0:37:20.120
<v Speaker 1>let me out, man, let me out, Let me out. Man.

0:37:20.840 --> 0:37:23.279
<v Speaker 1>Mofucker was making an attempt to get out the limosine

0:37:23.840 --> 0:37:28.840
<v Speaker 1>and really kicked them in the ass out the limosine.

0:37:29.000 --> 0:37:33.200
<v Speaker 1>Comment really thinking of some ship out, He's not thinking

0:37:33.200 --> 0:37:39.520
<v Speaker 1>about ship because you go ahead way out. We couldn't

0:37:39.520 --> 0:37:42.960
<v Speaker 1>even stop. Good. Hey, you know when you see somebody

0:37:42.960 --> 0:37:46.399
<v Speaker 1>man working, they try to clean the ship and be like, well,

0:37:46.560 --> 0:37:50.000
<v Speaker 1>the thing the thing is is that this all of

0:37:50.000 --> 0:37:55.920
<v Speaker 1>this ship is allegedly man, we would we would be

0:37:55.920 --> 0:37:59.399
<v Speaker 1>coming home from from from the show, right and it's

0:37:59.440 --> 0:38:02.399
<v Speaker 1>so funning bad. But me and Bill didn't give a fuck.

0:38:03.080 --> 0:38:06.480
<v Speaker 1>We had bitches in the limo even read too. We

0:38:06.600 --> 0:38:09.239
<v Speaker 1>had bitches in the limo, man, and then we'll they

0:38:09.360 --> 0:38:13.160
<v Speaker 1>be like, no, man, they can't ride in here. Who

0:38:13.280 --> 0:38:16.680
<v Speaker 1>was Willy was like trying to keep it professional, keep

0:38:16.719 --> 0:38:22.479
<v Speaker 1>these guys to get caught professional. Listen. We had bitches, really, man,

0:38:23.160 --> 0:38:25.680
<v Speaker 1>these dudes man, if you let them go too far

0:38:25.800 --> 0:38:30.759
<v Speaker 1>Bro to far basically take it, They're gonna take it

0:38:30.800 --> 0:38:37.600
<v Speaker 1>to It was the big brother cock block limousine bully

0:38:37.760 --> 0:38:39.839
<v Speaker 1>riding here so here coming out of the show, y'all

0:38:39.880 --> 0:38:41.279
<v Speaker 1>got all these women that he was like, they're getting

0:38:41.320 --> 0:38:47.480
<v Speaker 1>limousine bully. It's the thing, man, got to the point

0:38:47.480 --> 0:38:53.520
<v Speaker 1>where we wouldn't bring no listen. I never had a

0:38:53.560 --> 0:38:57.080
<v Speaker 1>problem with girls hopping into the limousine as long as

0:38:57.120 --> 0:38:59.680
<v Speaker 1>that they were pretty and that was and it was spacious.

0:38:59.760 --> 0:39:04.520
<v Speaker 1>Oh so you don't want to say, you know something

0:39:04.560 --> 0:39:10.840
<v Speaker 1>sometimes with monkey mountains at times challenges. But this is

0:39:10.880 --> 0:39:14.759
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. Whatever, this is what I'm saying, Nick Man,

0:39:15.040 --> 0:39:19.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm not riding nowhere uncomfortable. I'm I'm fucking we We

0:39:19.520 --> 0:39:22.000
<v Speaker 1>were in a limousine, man, We're supposed to be comfortable.

0:39:22.280 --> 0:39:24.480
<v Speaker 1>We're not supposed to have a whole damn club inside

0:39:24.480 --> 0:39:27.480
<v Speaker 1>the limousine, people all hanging all on the floor and

0:39:27.480 --> 0:39:32.080
<v Speaker 1>and and all the mage him having the same conversation

0:39:32.440 --> 0:39:39.239
<v Speaker 1>with a United Airlines gate check lady in Mississippi. I

0:39:39.239 --> 0:39:45.000
<v Speaker 1>think that get check lady would be appreciative. No, Willy,

0:39:46.040 --> 0:39:49.239
<v Speaker 1>we got into some ship. No, no, yeah, no, we

0:39:49.280 --> 0:39:51.080
<v Speaker 1>got into some ship. You got out of some ship.

0:39:51.160 --> 0:39:55.600
<v Speaker 1>You started the ship and got out of it. No,

0:39:55.719 --> 0:40:00.000
<v Speaker 1>this dude, we were we were in Jackson, Jacksonville, not Jacksonville.

0:40:00.000 --> 0:40:05.319
<v Speaker 1>We were in Jackson, Mississippi. This dude walks up to

0:40:05.440 --> 0:40:07.200
<v Speaker 1>the kind of we we had just did a show.

0:40:07.640 --> 0:40:11.200
<v Speaker 1>He walks up to the counter and he and Bill

0:40:11.680 --> 0:40:16.280
<v Speaker 1>are cracking jokes about the plane going down? Oh ship?

0:40:16.520 --> 0:40:26.719
<v Speaker 1>So the uh, the the what do they call those people? Who?

0:40:28.440 --> 0:40:31.440
<v Speaker 1>But but this is we're talking we're talking ninety one right,

0:40:32.160 --> 0:40:35.080
<v Speaker 1>so still on the planes, and we were working around

0:40:35.880 --> 0:40:39.320
<v Speaker 1>the whoever the people yours is who take the ticket people?

0:40:41.760 --> 0:40:44.840
<v Speaker 1>So they were like, it's a white dude. It was

0:40:44.880 --> 0:40:47.560
<v Speaker 1>a white dude, and and and a white lady. But

0:40:47.640 --> 0:40:51.080
<v Speaker 1>the white dude, he had that attitude. He's like, um,

0:40:51.239 --> 0:40:54.280
<v Speaker 1>y'are not gonna be able to fly to that because

0:40:55.080 --> 0:40:58.240
<v Speaker 1>he said, what's going because you don't make jokes about

0:40:58.280 --> 0:41:00.759
<v Speaker 1>something like that, You don't make jokes about plane going down.

0:41:00.840 --> 0:41:07.759
<v Speaker 1>So this dude start made the fucking gem him and

0:41:07.840 --> 0:41:13.080
<v Speaker 1>bid joking about and and look and right as they're

0:41:13.120 --> 0:41:14.960
<v Speaker 1>saying we're not gonna be able to talk and they're

0:41:15.000 --> 0:41:19.960
<v Speaker 1>doing a little ship, he take off and go who

0:41:20.160 --> 0:41:22.319
<v Speaker 1>who is that you left with him and breed him

0:41:22.360 --> 0:41:27.960
<v Speaker 1>and mc breath they take off, they go jump on

0:41:27.960 --> 0:41:31.759
<v Speaker 1>a whole nothing and jump on the plane and that goal.

0:41:32.120 --> 0:41:35.800
<v Speaker 1>We have to spend the night in Jackson because because

0:41:35.800 --> 0:41:38.279
<v Speaker 1>of something that he did. This dude can be at

0:41:38.320 --> 0:41:41.920
<v Speaker 1>times very inconsiderate of others, and so this is what

0:41:42.040 --> 0:41:45.759
<v Speaker 1>happened to us. We had to pay for his mistake. This,

0:41:45.760 --> 0:41:47.759
<v Speaker 1>this is what happens. I'm gonna say this. Don't say that,

0:41:47.800 --> 0:41:54.359
<v Speaker 1>don't say ship yeah, yes, man, don't let don't let

0:41:54.400 --> 0:41:57.480
<v Speaker 1>them leave here believing no ships like that will. So

0:41:57.560 --> 0:42:01.879
<v Speaker 1>you didn't make no joke. I don't want to rewrite history, bro.

0:42:02.280 --> 0:42:05.000
<v Speaker 1>You don't make new jokes with Bill. I ain't sunk

0:42:05.040 --> 0:42:07.240
<v Speaker 1>with Bill like that. It wasn't nothing funny about Bill.

0:42:07.960 --> 0:42:11.360
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, I think you wouldn't even now I

0:42:11.440 --> 0:42:14.439
<v Speaker 1>think I was. I'm believing I'm believing him. I will

0:42:14.480 --> 0:42:18.240
<v Speaker 1>say this, I will say this, will your your escape

0:42:18.280 --> 0:42:20.640
<v Speaker 1>game is alleged how you escape going on to a

0:42:20.719 --> 0:42:23.320
<v Speaker 1>fighting and reverse this ship to him. You're a legend

0:42:24.440 --> 0:42:28.279
<v Speaker 1>reversal games. I'm just saying, like, like the ship you

0:42:28.320 --> 0:42:30.399
<v Speaker 1>did on the plane, you probably got blocked the funk

0:42:30.440 --> 0:42:32.640
<v Speaker 1>up these days like that ship was crazy. You don't

0:42:32.640 --> 0:42:35.560
<v Speaker 1>had to make new jokes. And Bill and we got

0:42:35.640 --> 0:42:39.239
<v Speaker 1>kicked off stage in Dayton, Ohio, right bigg as stage man.

0:42:39.320 --> 0:42:41.880
<v Speaker 1>A whole lot of people in the first show, the

0:42:42.000 --> 0:42:46.120
<v Speaker 1>first the first big show. I'm you know, I ain't

0:42:46.120 --> 0:42:48.759
<v Speaker 1>never seen a whole bunch of people like this before. Yo,

0:42:49.600 --> 0:42:53.200
<v Speaker 1>and and and Willis. Did you spike the mic or

0:42:53.280 --> 0:42:56.399
<v Speaker 1>did I spiked the mic? Bill spiked? Bill spiked the mic?

0:42:57.800 --> 0:43:01.080
<v Speaker 1>And this white guy ran up on stage? Was spi

0:43:01.200 --> 0:43:06.200
<v Speaker 1>the mike because young kids don't know Super Bowl touchdown?

0:43:07.000 --> 0:43:10.759
<v Speaker 1>And white boy ran out there. Willie d gave him

0:43:10.760 --> 0:43:14.560
<v Speaker 1>a ding ding wings and fries. You said he was

0:43:14.600 --> 0:43:18.879
<v Speaker 1>ready to fight ding ding? What is it? Wally shaking? Fried?

0:43:18.960 --> 0:43:21.920
<v Speaker 1>What is it? Ding ding? Fries and shake? That's what

0:43:21.960 --> 0:43:31.920
<v Speaker 1>you used to call your knockout sticking anybody what anybody?

0:43:33.960 --> 0:43:36.839
<v Speaker 1>But I would not like, I would not advise that

0:43:36.920 --> 0:43:40.920
<v Speaker 1>to our up and coming artists out that because we

0:43:40.960 --> 0:43:43.680
<v Speaker 1>had to give all that money back. No, we worked

0:43:43.680 --> 0:43:48.520
<v Speaker 1>for free that night. Remember we tore up the equipment

0:43:48.520 --> 0:43:52.640
<v Speaker 1>that ship that was a band, equipment and stuffing on

0:43:52.680 --> 0:43:55.080
<v Speaker 1>the stage so so out out of the knockout. Y'all

0:43:55.080 --> 0:43:59.200
<v Speaker 1>just start smashing ship no reason, not not really but

0:43:59.280 --> 0:44:06.200
<v Speaker 1>Bill turn into just tean up everything thro TVs and

0:44:06.200 --> 0:44:09.359
<v Speaker 1>we go. We go backstage. We go backstage after it

0:44:09.400 --> 0:44:11.400
<v Speaker 1>was over, we go. Well, first of all, it was

0:44:12.239 --> 0:44:17.200
<v Speaker 1>it was Troops manager who ran out on stage. See

0:44:17.239 --> 0:44:23.240
<v Speaker 1>this is this is what happened. Troops manager, I wanted

0:44:23.280 --> 0:44:26.400
<v Speaker 1>to us to end our show early. They would have headliners,

0:44:26.440 --> 0:44:29.520
<v Speaker 1>but we sold the tickets we would have wanted everybody

0:44:29.600 --> 0:44:33.080
<v Speaker 1>was coming to see like because then it was Troop

0:44:33.320 --> 0:44:36.160
<v Speaker 1>after seven and somebody else. Right, it was an R

0:44:36.239 --> 0:44:39.680
<v Speaker 1>and B show at and they tried. They couldn't sell

0:44:39.719 --> 0:44:41.680
<v Speaker 1>the tickets. They couldn't move tickets. It was like two

0:44:41.719 --> 0:44:44.239
<v Speaker 1>weeks before the show and they had only sold like

0:44:44.280 --> 0:44:46.120
<v Speaker 1>a couple of hundred tickets. They put us on that

0:44:46.200 --> 0:44:50.000
<v Speaker 1>and sell out. So now we know that people are

0:44:50.080 --> 0:44:52.440
<v Speaker 1>that the majority of people are there to see us.

0:44:52.480 --> 0:44:56.560
<v Speaker 1>So what happens is okay, tell the study I don't

0:44:56.560 --> 0:45:04.200
<v Speaker 1>know your grass up, damn. So so we were on

0:45:04.360 --> 0:45:07.000
<v Speaker 1>the stage and the dude, our manager, tell us we

0:45:07.000 --> 0:45:09.360
<v Speaker 1>gotta wrap it up and were like, we want to perform,

0:45:09.520 --> 0:45:11.560
<v Speaker 1>like we were only done twenty minutes. We got five

0:45:11.600 --> 0:45:14.000
<v Speaker 1>minute show. So we want to perform for these these

0:45:14.040 --> 0:45:16.279
<v Speaker 1>people who came to see us, like fun that we

0:45:16.280 --> 0:45:21.520
<v Speaker 1>ain't gonna So Bill say, yeah, they want us to

0:45:21.600 --> 0:45:26.160
<v Speaker 1>end the show right now. Funk that way. Ain't none

0:45:26.200 --> 0:45:30.279
<v Speaker 1>of us holes. So the dude, that's when the dude

0:45:30.320 --> 0:45:32.960
<v Speaker 1>cut the mic off. Well, first he cut the lights off,

0:45:33.600 --> 0:45:35.279
<v Speaker 1>then he cut the mic off. When he cut the

0:45:35.280 --> 0:45:38.759
<v Speaker 1>mic off, Bill slammed the mic. The sound man come

0:45:38.840 --> 0:45:47.279
<v Speaker 1>running out there, slip him. Then troops, manager come run

0:45:47.320 --> 0:45:52.000
<v Speaker 1>out there. Harry Dan Dan you know, yeah, got him

0:45:52.040 --> 0:45:55.960
<v Speaker 1>real good. Uh So, now we start tying up the

0:45:55.960 --> 0:46:00.560
<v Speaker 1>equipment on the stage. The crowd, the drum and the crowd,

0:46:00.640 --> 0:46:03.479
<v Speaker 1>and the crowd don't the crowd, don't do it. Don't

0:46:03.600 --> 0:46:08.120
<v Speaker 1>don't help the situation. They're like, oh yeah, because the

0:46:08.120 --> 0:46:10.160
<v Speaker 1>crowd already met him. We gotta in the show earlier.

0:46:10.200 --> 0:46:11.799
<v Speaker 1>So they're really mad, and they're all the way on

0:46:11.800 --> 0:46:15.880
<v Speaker 1>our side, and and and and it's it's like pandemonium.

0:46:16.200 --> 0:46:19.080
<v Speaker 1>And out of all of these people, out of all

0:46:19.080 --> 0:46:21.880
<v Speaker 1>these people, like going crazy and stuff, all these noises

0:46:21.960 --> 0:46:26.040
<v Speaker 1>being made, I can hear some some some girls up

0:46:26.040 --> 0:46:29.440
<v Speaker 1>in the front, like this girl up in the front screen. Oh,

0:46:29.600 --> 0:46:33.680
<v Speaker 1>they get o bards for real. So we go to

0:46:33.719 --> 0:46:37.319
<v Speaker 1>the backstage. We go, we go to the dressing room.

0:46:37.760 --> 0:46:39.440
<v Speaker 1>We get to the dressing room. We walk in our

0:46:39.520 --> 0:46:44.200
<v Speaker 1>dressing room. All the glass it's broken, you remember that part.

0:46:44.520 --> 0:46:49.880
<v Speaker 1>And the grass is broken, and I dressing room broken

0:46:49.880 --> 0:46:54.440
<v Speaker 1>and I dressing is in the damn dressing room, pacing

0:46:54.840 --> 0:47:02.000
<v Speaker 1>he all the motherfuck mirrors and I dressing room. So

0:47:02.200 --> 0:47:05.600
<v Speaker 1>next thing you know, they got these big old Berlin

0:47:06.400 --> 0:47:11.200
<v Speaker 1>six foot five white boards, these big old ass fifteen

0:47:11.280 --> 0:47:15.200
<v Speaker 1>gallon hats on, and they're talking to our manager chief

0:47:15.480 --> 0:47:18.360
<v Speaker 1>and they're telling him, we gotta pay for all this

0:47:18.400 --> 0:47:21.879
<v Speaker 1>ship and we're going to jail. Fuck. So we had

0:47:21.920 --> 0:47:25.759
<v Speaker 1>to give all that money back to go home. How

0:47:25.840 --> 0:47:28.320
<v Speaker 1>much was we doing shows for back then, I don't

0:47:28.360 --> 0:47:30.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but whatever it was, we had to

0:47:30.400 --> 0:47:34.600
<v Speaker 1>give it all back, you know. So that that that

0:47:34.640 --> 0:47:39.520
<v Speaker 1>taught us a lessons so far y'all out there, man, man,

0:47:39.719 --> 0:47:43.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, don't don't get the money back. Don't give

0:47:43.080 --> 0:47:50.200
<v Speaker 1>the money back, man. And also and also respect respect seniority,

0:47:50.480 --> 0:47:57.319
<v Speaker 1>respect uh, respect protocol. You know, like we were not

0:47:57.440 --> 0:48:00.320
<v Speaker 1>the headliners and we didn't respect the headlines. You gotta

0:48:00.440 --> 0:48:03.719
<v Speaker 1>respect if you're on the undercard. You gotta respect the

0:48:03.760 --> 0:48:05.680
<v Speaker 1>head I don't give a damn how good you think

0:48:05.719 --> 0:48:12.360
<v Speaker 1>you are. Get board. The headline is running so and

0:48:12.520 --> 0:48:14.520
<v Speaker 1>we didn't respect it. We was like relly, just like

0:48:14.640 --> 0:48:18.000
<v Speaker 1>wild and wrong. You still don't respect the head Yeah,

0:48:18.120 --> 0:48:21.799
<v Speaker 1>there's our ship. No no, no, that's a lot. I

0:48:21.840 --> 0:48:29.560
<v Speaker 1>respect everybody, man, But unless you know, because well you know,

0:48:29.640 --> 0:48:36.239
<v Speaker 1>unless they do something like that dope ship. They need

0:48:36.239 --> 0:48:40.680
<v Speaker 1>to sell that ding ding fries and shake. You got

0:48:40.719 --> 0:48:43.440
<v Speaker 1>two of hamburger and some two fries and a shake.

0:48:43.560 --> 0:48:49.960
<v Speaker 1>But food so good at a knock yout hold on right,

0:48:50.000 --> 0:48:52.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you write that ship down. You're so good.

0:49:02.719 --> 0:49:07.480
<v Speaker 1>It's like Bill had us hostage bro on tour, because

0:49:07.520 --> 0:49:11.960
<v Speaker 1>we'll be trying to make Bill like the surprise that

0:49:12.040 --> 0:49:16.720
<v Speaker 1>he is, and Bill will be out there in the crowd,

0:49:16.800 --> 0:49:18.840
<v Speaker 1>sitting in the seat with the people, like just waiting

0:49:18.840 --> 0:49:22.040
<v Speaker 1>on us to come on. Before we even get to

0:49:22.080 --> 0:49:25.960
<v Speaker 1>the arena, Bill is already at the damn arena inside

0:49:25.960 --> 0:49:33.200
<v Speaker 1>of the crowd, funked up trunk always. Yeah he shuck Bill,

0:49:33.239 --> 0:49:35.959
<v Speaker 1>he was. He was the epitome of the word rock star.

0:49:37.320 --> 0:49:40.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, he throw fuck TVs out the fucking hotel

0:49:40.760 --> 0:49:46.440
<v Speaker 1>in crashing rooms and cut the mattresses up. It was crazy.

0:49:46.719 --> 0:49:49.840
<v Speaker 1>He was a motherfucker man. What's what's the biggest difference

0:49:49.880 --> 0:49:53.239
<v Speaker 1>between what where you guys are now in your careers

0:49:53.280 --> 0:49:56.120
<v Speaker 1>and where you were just about maybe two years ago

0:49:56.560 --> 0:50:01.920
<v Speaker 1>before you guys got thirty dollar podcast what happened? What

0:50:01.960 --> 0:50:05.279
<v Speaker 1>happened was for me right now, I don't even out

0:50:05.280 --> 0:50:12.120
<v Speaker 1>of penitentiary for it for four and a half years. Yeah,

0:50:12.160 --> 0:50:15.720
<v Speaker 1>so but it's a short time to gain the success

0:50:15.719 --> 0:50:17.760
<v Speaker 1>that he's had. What it was is me and because

0:50:17.760 --> 0:50:19.600
<v Speaker 1>because always was doing million, I was with a game,

0:50:19.640 --> 0:50:21.520
<v Speaker 1>so it was something that he was doing on Instagram like,

0:50:22.000 --> 0:50:25.040
<v Speaker 1>but we expanded and it was like what changes that

0:50:25.520 --> 0:50:27.239
<v Speaker 1>we were still the same thing, but it's just more

0:50:27.280 --> 0:50:32.799
<v Speaker 1>opportunities and you understand platforms more like what y'all have.

0:50:33.400 --> 0:50:37.040
<v Speaker 1>It's not a podcasts a show. And I think Titling

0:50:37.280 --> 0:50:40.120
<v Speaker 1>you understand titlanly. You start to understand more ship, you

0:50:40.200 --> 0:50:43.200
<v Speaker 1>understand brands, You understand like some people might be watching this,

0:50:43.239 --> 0:50:45.520
<v Speaker 1>they understand why this ain't got no label on there.

0:50:45.600 --> 0:50:48.719
<v Speaker 1>They're not paying you. So it's just so much more

0:50:48.800 --> 0:50:52.160
<v Speaker 1>game that we got in the business side. And uh,

0:50:52.239 --> 0:50:54.839
<v Speaker 1>and just it tightened us up outside of you know, money,

0:50:54.880 --> 0:50:57.759
<v Speaker 1>that's cool, But it's about information is king in this game,

0:50:57.880 --> 0:51:01.160
<v Speaker 1>especially this game right here, when he's cut on information

0:51:01.200 --> 0:51:04.160
<v Speaker 1>and understand and stuff, because it's stuff that I'm gonna

0:51:04.160 --> 0:51:07.560
<v Speaker 1>tell you after this that a lot of these structural

0:51:07.560 --> 0:51:09.239
<v Speaker 1>companies ain't gonna tell you because they don't want you

0:51:09.239 --> 0:51:10.920
<v Speaker 1>to know, because if you don't know, you don't know

0:51:11.000 --> 0:51:13.759
<v Speaker 1>your value. But I learned about value, like me, and

0:51:13.960 --> 0:51:15.719
<v Speaker 1>we talked about this all. We learned about value. We

0:51:15.719 --> 0:51:17.759
<v Speaker 1>know how much we're worth. You know what I mean?

0:51:18.200 --> 0:51:21.359
<v Speaker 1>If if you know, if I come to y'all and say, listen, man,

0:51:22.040 --> 0:51:23.839
<v Speaker 1>I want to get y'all ten million dollars, that mean

0:51:23.880 --> 0:51:25.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm I can make a hunt it, I can make

0:51:25.280 --> 0:51:28.240
<v Speaker 1>fifty off you. So it's a valuation game. Is about

0:51:28.520 --> 0:51:32.400
<v Speaker 1>understanding the different chains of marketing. Understanding what could sit

0:51:32.480 --> 0:51:35.200
<v Speaker 1>on this table and you know, understand that somebody could

0:51:35.200 --> 0:51:36.600
<v Speaker 1>put something on this table and get your half a

0:51:36.640 --> 0:51:40.200
<v Speaker 1>million dollars for a couple of episodes. Is understanding business.

0:51:40.520 --> 0:51:42.680
<v Speaker 1>That was the strongest thing that I understand, especially with

0:51:42.760 --> 0:51:46.759
<v Speaker 1>us owning our ship, we understand ownership and partnership. A

0:51:46.840 --> 0:51:48.759
<v Speaker 1>lot of people think that, uh, you know, if this,

0:51:49.000 --> 0:51:52.440
<v Speaker 1>if this bottle was, oh, I gotta give us to

0:51:52.480 --> 0:51:54.399
<v Speaker 1>them for me to come up. No, I I got,

0:51:54.600 --> 0:51:56.640
<v Speaker 1>I got you know, I got license thirty percent to you.

0:51:56.800 --> 0:51:59.480
<v Speaker 1>But license don't mean own ship. It just means that

0:52:00.000 --> 0:52:01.200
<v Speaker 1>the license, you know, you know what I mean, but

0:52:01.239 --> 0:52:03.600
<v Speaker 1>our own percent of my ship. But we're gonna license

0:52:03.680 --> 0:52:04.960
<v Speaker 1>y'all can do this and do that, and we're gonna

0:52:04.960 --> 0:52:08.880
<v Speaker 1>bring some bread down. So what will really changed is

0:52:08.920 --> 0:52:11.560
<v Speaker 1>that information and understanding and talking to people that's in

0:52:11.600 --> 0:52:16.239
<v Speaker 1>different fields to understand value, to understand other avenues to

0:52:16.400 --> 0:52:19.120
<v Speaker 1>this ship. This right here, this want some real ship

0:52:19.920 --> 0:52:22.240
<v Speaker 1>millioniars for the game. To us, this is our baby.

0:52:22.840 --> 0:52:24.440
<v Speaker 1>But for what we got to store this ship is

0:52:24.480 --> 0:52:27.680
<v Speaker 1>practice like we were on another level like and we're

0:52:27.680 --> 0:52:29.760
<v Speaker 1>gonna change the game for those who's gonna come behind

0:52:29.880 --> 0:52:33.239
<v Speaker 1>us about ownership and leveling up on levels. That's fucking

0:52:33.280 --> 0:52:37.160
<v Speaker 1>unimaginable from just us saying cause, come on, let's start

0:52:37.160 --> 0:52:39.239
<v Speaker 1>this thing and just shooting ship and just putting it

0:52:39.280 --> 0:52:42.400
<v Speaker 1>out there, and you're putting it out there to the

0:52:42.400 --> 0:52:45.960
<v Speaker 1>world for them to know understanding these different people. People

0:52:46.440 --> 0:52:48.960
<v Speaker 1>deal with information different Some people like to listen to it.

0:52:49.320 --> 0:52:51.319
<v Speaker 1>Some people like to see it, but we understood that,

0:52:51.719 --> 0:52:54.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, especially people from our culture. We first listen

0:52:54.080 --> 0:52:56.719
<v Speaker 1>with our eyes, then we listened with our ears. See

0:52:56.760 --> 0:52:59.719
<v Speaker 1>this is this is the ears right, you know what

0:52:59.760 --> 0:53:02.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean. So so more people are gonna probably look

0:53:02.719 --> 0:53:04.440
<v Speaker 1>at your on YouTube than they're gonna listen to you

0:53:04.520 --> 0:53:07.760
<v Speaker 1>on Apple because they want to see your facial expression.

0:53:08.040 --> 0:53:10.880
<v Speaker 1>They want to see what you say. Yeah, motherfucking Brad

0:53:10.920 --> 0:53:12.719
<v Speaker 1>cuts to people out. He said, well, what are you're lying?

0:53:13.160 --> 0:53:16.240
<v Speaker 1>It's a different thing. Everything is about the visual. Visual

0:53:16.320 --> 0:53:20.080
<v Speaker 1>is more powerful than audio. So as understanding that placement,

0:53:20.160 --> 0:53:23.560
<v Speaker 1>brand placement is about partnerships, ownership. That's all this ship

0:53:23.640 --> 0:53:25.839
<v Speaker 1>is about. And that's the ship that we sit back

0:53:26.239 --> 0:53:29.000
<v Speaker 1>and we just went. We studied and we talked about

0:53:29.040 --> 0:53:31.040
<v Speaker 1>and that makes us strong and man, make us understand

0:53:31.080 --> 0:53:33.239
<v Speaker 1>the game more. And you know, when the motherfucker called,

0:53:33.280 --> 0:53:35.239
<v Speaker 1>you would say, yeah, we want you to do this,

0:53:35.520 --> 0:53:38.160
<v Speaker 1>we want you to do that. Yeah we got a

0:53:38.200 --> 0:53:40.960
<v Speaker 1>hundred thousand for you just that third and you hang

0:53:41.040 --> 0:53:43.400
<v Speaker 1>up and they called back. Damn, something happened to know

0:53:43.520 --> 0:53:45.480
<v Speaker 1>we hang up? Do disrespect us like that? Ain't no

0:53:45.560 --> 0:53:49.040
<v Speaker 1>sucking money? Fun is mad with you Oh no, how

0:53:49.080 --> 0:53:51.040
<v Speaker 1>do they mean to disrespect you? Are We're gonna all right,

0:53:51.040 --> 0:53:53.160
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna get back with you. Yeah. And then they

0:53:53.160 --> 0:53:55.000
<v Speaker 1>get back and now they're talking some stupid ship. They're

0:53:55.000 --> 0:53:56.960
<v Speaker 1>talking some real because they know, like, oh, they know

0:53:57.320 --> 0:53:59.640
<v Speaker 1>they're black folks. And now see a lot of black

0:53:59.680 --> 0:54:01.400
<v Speaker 1>folks don't know. I'm gonna tell you something, drop some

0:54:01.400 --> 0:54:03.120
<v Speaker 1>strong shot on you, and I want you to hold

0:54:03.160 --> 0:54:04.759
<v Speaker 1>this on the little in the viewers. I want you

0:54:04.880 --> 0:54:09.760
<v Speaker 1>to hold this on black people. We can trove cool,

0:54:10.120 --> 0:54:13.719
<v Speaker 1>but we don't own it control cool. We can troll cool,

0:54:13.719 --> 0:54:16.080
<v Speaker 1>but we own it. But but but the system know

0:54:16.120 --> 0:54:19.160
<v Speaker 1>how to monetize it. Like if you look at music, right,

0:54:19.640 --> 0:54:21.400
<v Speaker 1>look at music, look at it. You know, we're selling

0:54:21.400 --> 0:54:24.200
<v Speaker 1>the most music, but most of them executives, they don't

0:54:24.200 --> 0:54:27.239
<v Speaker 1>look like us, you know what I'm saying. So it's

0:54:27.320 --> 0:54:29.719
<v Speaker 1>understanding ownership, you know. I mean when you look at

0:54:29.719 --> 0:54:31.560
<v Speaker 1>Tyler Perio, when you look at certain people and when

0:54:31.600 --> 0:54:33.600
<v Speaker 1>they talk ownership that should be real. A lot of

0:54:33.640 --> 0:54:35.359
<v Speaker 1>people look at them like, oh, they're just tripping because

0:54:35.360 --> 0:54:38.000
<v Speaker 1>the motherfucking you a motherfucker' Sai man Hecko ten million hours.

0:54:39.640 --> 0:54:42.239
<v Speaker 1>But you could have made that time yourself and you

0:54:42.239 --> 0:54:44.759
<v Speaker 1>could have still owned your ship. But I think a

0:54:44.760 --> 0:54:46.560
<v Speaker 1>lot of times we don't know that. And and taxes

0:54:46.640 --> 0:54:48.960
<v Speaker 1>is important to we tax attorneys. We make sure that

0:54:49.280 --> 0:54:51.040
<v Speaker 1>because it's like, at the end of the day, it's

0:54:51.080 --> 0:54:54.400
<v Speaker 1>like we control cool. If you go back to the

0:54:54.440 --> 0:54:57.239
<v Speaker 1>beginning of time, if you look at James Brown, you

0:54:57.280 --> 0:54:59.080
<v Speaker 1>look at a little rich you look at all all

0:54:59.120 --> 0:55:02.320
<v Speaker 1>our people. We always control cool. From the beginning of

0:55:02.480 --> 0:55:04.879
<v Speaker 1>time all the way up to now. We control it,

0:55:05.320 --> 0:55:07.920
<v Speaker 1>but we don't own it. When is we gonna put

0:55:07.920 --> 0:55:09.840
<v Speaker 1>ownership on our coop? You know what I mean? That

0:55:09.960 --> 0:55:12.440
<v Speaker 1>thing that walk willie when you just walk, it's natural.

0:55:12.480 --> 0:55:15.520
<v Speaker 1>You ain't trying, it's just naturally cool. The way you're

0:55:15.520 --> 0:55:19.880
<v Speaker 1>gonna respond to motherfucker is naturally cool. We control cool,

0:55:19.920 --> 0:55:23.120
<v Speaker 1>We created cool. The idea of cool would come from

0:55:23.239 --> 0:55:27.880
<v Speaker 1>us and got out and the and the reality of

0:55:27.920 --> 0:55:32.879
<v Speaker 1>it is is is every other race emulates the black race.

0:55:33.480 --> 0:55:35.279
<v Speaker 1>You know, we could pull up a it's not a

0:55:35.280 --> 0:55:36.920
<v Speaker 1>bad thing. We can pull up a bunch of videos

0:55:37.000 --> 0:55:39.040
<v Speaker 1>right now where's two white boys fighting and they call

0:55:39.040 --> 0:55:42.600
<v Speaker 1>on each other niggers, nigger what you want. We can't

0:55:42.600 --> 0:55:44.680
<v Speaker 1>pull up no video with two black men fighting and

0:55:44.760 --> 0:55:48.640
<v Speaker 1>they call on each other crackers. Well, we just had

0:55:48.680 --> 0:55:54.160
<v Speaker 1>that conversation with with with with with mark Uh Margot Norman.

0:55:54.239 --> 0:55:56.560
<v Speaker 1>We had a conversation with him and he like this.

0:55:56.560 --> 0:55:58.959
<v Speaker 1>This is something that he brought up first to people

0:55:59.000 --> 0:56:01.319
<v Speaker 1>acknowledge that people know where time it is. It ain't

0:56:01.320 --> 0:56:06.040
<v Speaker 1>no denying it, Um Wallow. When when you got out

0:56:06.040 --> 0:56:08.360
<v Speaker 1>of jail, you literally hit the ground running. You started

0:56:08.360 --> 0:56:11.320
<v Speaker 1>watching those videos. You took the Instagram immediately, you started

0:56:11.320 --> 0:56:15.520
<v Speaker 1>making those videos and you run towards the camera. Yo,

0:56:15.680 --> 0:56:17.320
<v Speaker 1>something's let me tell you. And you just started just

0:56:17.400 --> 0:56:21.120
<v Speaker 1>dropping game, telling people what's going on. Now. When people

0:56:21.160 --> 0:56:26.680
<v Speaker 1>hear you talk post uh incarceration, they hear you talk,

0:56:26.800 --> 0:56:29.080
<v Speaker 1>not even like right now, they hear you how you talking.

0:56:29.520 --> 0:56:31.720
<v Speaker 1>People said, man, this guy here is sharp, he's smart.

0:56:32.800 --> 0:56:35.359
<v Speaker 1>It makes one wonder how did somebody that's sharp get

0:56:35.360 --> 0:56:39.040
<v Speaker 1>caught up in the first place, Because it was like this, Well,

0:56:41.000 --> 0:56:44.880
<v Speaker 1>and the ghetto attention is God acceptances God. And I

0:56:44.960 --> 0:56:49.200
<v Speaker 1>was worshiping God coming up in the ghetto, and you

0:56:49.239 --> 0:56:51.640
<v Speaker 1>know in my neighborhood when I see them dude pull

0:56:51.719 --> 0:56:53.800
<v Speaker 1>up with the rope chain on with the bens. He

0:56:53.880 --> 0:56:56.239
<v Speaker 1>had the Gouci's on and all that ship. I've seen

0:56:56.239 --> 0:56:58.520
<v Speaker 1>that the wood. The women respect to him more than

0:56:58.560 --> 0:57:00.160
<v Speaker 1>the dude that was walking home from work with a

0:57:00.239 --> 0:57:03.040
<v Speaker 1>motherfucking a plumber belt on or you know, his work

0:57:03.120 --> 0:57:05.960
<v Speaker 1>shoes on. He was a square. So I had o

0:57:06.120 --> 0:57:08.240
<v Speaker 1>g s that was getting money in the streets, my grandmother,

0:57:08.280 --> 0:57:10.120
<v Speaker 1>and there's people my family telling me to do right,

0:57:10.160 --> 0:57:13.759
<v Speaker 1>but they was outnumbered. So I came up. I came

0:57:13.800 --> 0:57:16.120
<v Speaker 1>up in the streets of Philadelphia, and and I became

0:57:16.160 --> 0:57:19.360
<v Speaker 1>married to the streets of Philadelphia because I wanted to

0:57:19.400 --> 0:57:22.000
<v Speaker 1>be down will It wasn't that it wasn't that I

0:57:22.040 --> 0:57:24.640
<v Speaker 1>ain't I ain't had no no mine. It's just that

0:57:25.080 --> 0:57:27.000
<v Speaker 1>my mind ain't belonged to me. It belonged to the

0:57:27.080 --> 0:57:29.600
<v Speaker 1>idea of people looking at me and accept of me.

0:57:30.080 --> 0:57:32.040
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. So I jumped in the

0:57:32.040 --> 0:57:33.720
<v Speaker 1>street game. The first time I got locked up, I

0:57:33.720 --> 0:57:36.640
<v Speaker 1>was eleven. Uh. I went on to keep being locked up.

0:57:36.640 --> 0:57:39.200
<v Speaker 1>Spent five years in the juvenile facility, and I spent

0:57:39.200 --> 0:57:41.520
<v Speaker 1>twenty years in prison. I spent more time. I spent

0:57:41.600 --> 0:57:44.840
<v Speaker 1>more time on this earth incarcerated than I did free.

0:57:45.320 --> 0:57:47.080
<v Speaker 1>So when you see me now and I'm living out

0:57:47.120 --> 0:57:49.200
<v Speaker 1>my life. Um, when I was in jail, I woke

0:57:49.280 --> 0:57:52.240
<v Speaker 1>up and I realized why I was there, and what

0:57:52.480 --> 0:57:55.200
<v Speaker 1>was the switch. The switch was understanding that I was

0:57:55.240 --> 0:57:57.000
<v Speaker 1>in there. I was. I was in jail for living

0:57:57.000 --> 0:57:59.800
<v Speaker 1>a lie. And the lie was that I was somebody

0:57:59.840 --> 0:58:02.040
<v Speaker 1>that I'm not. And the reason I say that I'm

0:58:02.160 --> 0:58:03.720
<v Speaker 1>somebody that I'm not because I ain't gonna hold you

0:58:03.760 --> 0:58:04.919
<v Speaker 1>a lot of times when I was in the street

0:58:04.920 --> 0:58:06.480
<v Speaker 1>and I was growing up, and I did something on

0:58:06.600 --> 0:58:08.280
<v Speaker 1>me and the homies did something on me, and cause

0:58:08.320 --> 0:58:11.280
<v Speaker 1>did something, I'll laid on and be like I never

0:58:11.320 --> 0:58:13.880
<v Speaker 1>forget man, me and me and me and cause we

0:58:13.880 --> 0:58:16.000
<v Speaker 1>we we went statue limitation ran out was on me

0:58:18.480 --> 0:58:21.400
<v Speaker 1>and it ain't that type of shape that but you know,

0:58:21.480 --> 0:58:23.479
<v Speaker 1>we did a stick at one time. Come to find

0:58:23.480 --> 0:58:26.360
<v Speaker 1>out the motherfucker was a cop. Who fuck we get

0:58:26.360 --> 0:58:28.880
<v Speaker 1>in the car. I'm bitching. I'm like, yo, ship that

0:58:28.920 --> 0:58:30.640
<v Speaker 1>was a cop. Oh man, we gotta give him a

0:58:30.680 --> 0:58:33.920
<v Speaker 1>ship back. But that consciousness right there, I always had it.

0:58:34.000 --> 0:58:36.400
<v Speaker 1>Every time I've done something. Sometimes I will always question

0:58:36.440 --> 0:58:38.680
<v Speaker 1>what I've done. So I had it there. But when

0:58:38.720 --> 0:58:41.640
<v Speaker 1>I hit the penitention, I'm like, yo, man for that. No,

0:58:41.680 --> 0:58:44.360
<v Speaker 1>I ain't going to jail for that. It's cool whatever.

0:58:44.440 --> 0:58:47.440
<v Speaker 1>But that was thirty years ago. I don't even have

0:58:47.480 --> 0:58:49.880
<v Speaker 1>a statue limitation. But but but but what I'm saying

0:58:49.880 --> 0:58:53.760
<v Speaker 1>is I love it so so whatever the case may be,

0:58:53.840 --> 0:58:55.680
<v Speaker 1>I ain't you know, I'm just being so whatever the

0:58:55.760 --> 0:58:59.000
<v Speaker 1>keep being scary man, whatever the case may be. But listen, well,

0:58:59.040 --> 0:59:03.280
<v Speaker 1>whatever the case may be. It was like I evolved

0:59:03.320 --> 0:59:06.800
<v Speaker 1>when I was in prison because I let that Nike

0:59:06.800 --> 0:59:09.160
<v Speaker 1>it up face face on point though because we didn't

0:59:09.240 --> 0:59:10.760
<v Speaker 1>we didn't have to do that with ship that was current.

0:59:10.920 --> 0:59:14.720
<v Speaker 1>But like I evolved and I realized, like, yo, this

0:59:14.920 --> 0:59:19.440
<v Speaker 1>is some goofy ship, Willie. I'm sitting the cell day

0:59:19.440 --> 0:59:21.320
<v Speaker 1>after day with another man. Want the time for me

0:59:21.360 --> 0:59:23.200
<v Speaker 1>to take a ship. I gotta put a sheet up.

0:59:23.200 --> 0:59:24.800
<v Speaker 1>He might be and he gotta smell my ship. I

0:59:24.880 --> 0:59:27.920
<v Speaker 1>gotta smell a ship. The White Bull Guard to live

0:59:27.960 --> 0:59:31.640
<v Speaker 1>in the middle of America. We listen, were building whole industries,

0:59:31.680 --> 0:59:34.360
<v Speaker 1>were building whole towns. All prisons is in a small

0:59:34.400 --> 0:59:35.960
<v Speaker 1>town in America. When they build a new prison, they

0:59:36.000 --> 0:59:38.120
<v Speaker 1>building a small town in America and they build it up.

0:59:38.160 --> 0:59:40.160
<v Speaker 1>The prison, come the walmart, come. They built the whole

0:59:40.200 --> 0:59:42.920
<v Speaker 1>town up, all the homies, all the homies across the

0:59:42.920 --> 0:59:46.680
<v Speaker 1>country that go to the penitentiary and and it's one

0:59:46.720 --> 0:59:48.640
<v Speaker 1>of the real ship that happened to me. I realized

0:59:48.680 --> 0:59:51.520
<v Speaker 1>that And one of the the craziest moments when I

0:59:51.560 --> 0:59:54.000
<v Speaker 1>was in prisons, when the guard told me he showed me.

0:59:54.000 --> 0:59:56.880
<v Speaker 1>He showed me his uh, because I used to work

0:59:56.920 --> 0:59:58.840
<v Speaker 1>with his guard. He just talks. I just talked. He

0:59:58.880 --> 1:00:03.480
<v Speaker 1>ain't like me. He I'm walking past the bubble. He

1:00:03.600 --> 1:00:05.600
<v Speaker 1>go inside of his shirt, you know, because they wear

1:00:05.680 --> 1:00:08.440
<v Speaker 1>vessels inside the joint, like these staff vessels. And he

1:00:08.560 --> 1:00:11.240
<v Speaker 1>pulled like an envelope out. He opened a picture up

1:00:11.640 --> 1:00:13.920
<v Speaker 1>and it was him and it was his son, like

1:00:14.000 --> 1:00:17.520
<v Speaker 1>a boat and a house standing right there. He was like, yeah, yeah, people,

1:00:17.720 --> 1:00:20.160
<v Speaker 1>that's my last name. You're in the home. He's brought

1:00:20.160 --> 1:00:25.000
<v Speaker 1>me that. And it was it was it was this

1:00:25.120 --> 1:00:28.040
<v Speaker 1>truth that cut me so deep because it was so real.

1:00:28.640 --> 1:00:30.360
<v Speaker 1>And when I went back at my cell hurt because

1:00:30.360 --> 1:00:32.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm like me and the home he's never brought my

1:00:32.320 --> 1:00:35.720
<v Speaker 1>mom's no cribs, we never do. Did he say that

1:00:36.120 --> 1:00:40.560
<v Speaker 1>to encourage you in? He said that the dig at

1:00:40.560 --> 1:00:43.200
<v Speaker 1>me me and the home. He's bought him that because

1:00:43.200 --> 1:00:46.320
<v Speaker 1>when you listen, one thing about the institution, one thing

1:00:46.320 --> 1:00:51.600
<v Speaker 1>about the justice system. I didn't seeing guards coming young,

1:00:51.920 --> 1:00:54.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what's going on. Eighteen years old, straight

1:00:54.560 --> 1:00:59.360
<v Speaker 1>off a farm, coming there and go from regular guard, sergeant,

1:00:59.520 --> 1:01:04.680
<v Speaker 1>lieutenant it, major, captain. I'm in Captain, major warden, and

1:01:04.680 --> 1:01:07.760
<v Speaker 1>their son do it, and the brother do it, and

1:01:07.800 --> 1:01:10.640
<v Speaker 1>the cousin do it, and my daughter did it, and

1:01:10.680 --> 1:01:13.160
<v Speaker 1>they get to see and they get all these things

1:01:13.200 --> 1:01:14.640
<v Speaker 1>based off of me and the home. He's put the

1:01:14.680 --> 1:01:17.800
<v Speaker 1>work in the street and being real niggas on the streets.

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<v Speaker 1>So by us being real niggers in the street catching

1:01:20.000 --> 1:01:24.560
<v Speaker 1>these cases, we're giving them job security. Because as more

1:01:24.600 --> 1:01:28.760
<v Speaker 1>of us keep coming, loading them beds upping themselves, they

1:01:28.840 --> 1:01:30.400
<v Speaker 1>keep telling their cousin come on down to jail and

1:01:30.480 --> 1:01:33.800
<v Speaker 1>get a job. Come on, dearn, Bobby, come down, really

1:01:33.880 --> 1:01:36.200
<v Speaker 1>come down. They hold listen, I didn't been in the

1:01:36.200 --> 1:01:39.880
<v Speaker 1>prisons where the whole household was there, the mom, the son,

1:01:40.160 --> 1:01:43.520
<v Speaker 1>the dad, they all the mom working in the hospital,

1:01:43.520 --> 1:01:45.880
<v Speaker 1>on the jail, the dad of sergeant, the lieutenant, the

1:01:45.880 --> 1:01:48.960
<v Speaker 1>son of regular guard, of work in the gym. And

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<v Speaker 1>guess what me let me break it down. And the eighties,

1:01:54.480 --> 1:01:56.520
<v Speaker 1>I used to go to see my stepfather in prison,

1:01:56.560 --> 1:01:58.000
<v Speaker 1>Me and my brother rest in peace and my brother

1:01:58.040 --> 1:02:01.360
<v Speaker 1>Steve rest in peace and my stepfather. And it's a

1:02:01.400 --> 1:02:04.360
<v Speaker 1>picture I got and I used to be happy every

1:02:04.400 --> 1:02:06.320
<v Speaker 1>week to go see any time. My mom taking up,

1:02:06.320 --> 1:02:08.360
<v Speaker 1>make the food, go see my stepa. His name Hip,

1:02:08.600 --> 1:02:11.160
<v Speaker 1>what's phillis Steven Market? His name is Hip? And um

1:02:11.440 --> 1:02:16.160
<v Speaker 1>rust and peace, Willie? Do you know? And this in

1:02:16.240 --> 1:02:19.720
<v Speaker 1>the eighties, do you know? In me and my step

1:02:19.760 --> 1:02:21.480
<v Speaker 1>paps were sealmates in the same prison. I want to

1:02:21.480 --> 1:02:23.600
<v Speaker 1>go see him at do you know? In two thousand

1:02:23.840 --> 1:02:27.000
<v Speaker 1>and five, me and my brother was sealmmates in the

1:02:27.040 --> 1:02:28.520
<v Speaker 1>same prison. We used to go to see my dad

1:02:28.600 --> 1:02:31.760
<v Speaker 1>at my stepdad at generational incarceration at the same time.

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<v Speaker 1>On the other side, you got the guards. So it's

1:02:35.560 --> 1:02:40.000
<v Speaker 1>like it's deep. But that ship wake you up and

1:02:40.080 --> 1:02:42.040
<v Speaker 1>you went and you're like, man, I got more. So

1:02:42.320 --> 1:02:43.880
<v Speaker 1>when I'm out here and I'm talking to cats and

1:02:43.920 --> 1:02:45.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm telling him it costs too much to be a criminal.

1:02:45.520 --> 1:02:47.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to get I'm giving you ship off a

1:02:47.080 --> 1:02:50.040
<v Speaker 1>real life. Don't wait till it's too late. I'm telling

1:02:50.120 --> 1:02:53.840
<v Speaker 1>dudes based off like yo, act yourself, what did you

1:02:53.960 --> 1:02:57.400
<v Speaker 1>really doing? Like we ride for an idea of something

1:02:57.480 --> 1:03:00.680
<v Speaker 1>that don't exist no more. And let's a young boy

1:03:00.760 --> 1:03:03.960
<v Speaker 1>told me some ship and it was real. I was

1:03:04.000 --> 1:03:06.880
<v Speaker 1>in prisoning me and somebody older cats. He was telling

1:03:06.960 --> 1:03:09.400
<v Speaker 1>on somebody will so he come back from court. Were

1:03:09.400 --> 1:03:12.120
<v Speaker 1>in the holding sales. He telling the motherfucker you know

1:03:12.800 --> 1:03:14.440
<v Speaker 1>young boys like yo young and right there in the

1:03:14.520 --> 1:03:16.240
<v Speaker 1>last seal, he raping that motherfucker going. He just went

1:03:16.280 --> 1:03:18.840
<v Speaker 1>down the court telling somebody with his ah. So me

1:03:18.920 --> 1:03:21.600
<v Speaker 1>and another old cat, older cat named Jeff Gains. He

1:03:21.720 --> 1:03:24.000
<v Speaker 1>was named brand dude in the streets of Philly box

1:03:24.120 --> 1:03:26.640
<v Speaker 1>all that we had. We hollered through the game young

1:03:26.680 --> 1:03:29.600
<v Speaker 1>and come to the gate man, we gotta high light you.

1:03:30.920 --> 1:03:32.800
<v Speaker 1>He said, what was y'all want? Old is what's up?

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<v Speaker 1>What y'all want to talk about? He said, damn, man,

1:03:35.160 --> 1:03:36.960
<v Speaker 1>we heard you telling somebody. That's what he said us.

1:03:37.640 --> 1:03:39.800
<v Speaker 1>This motherfucker was a different type of rat. He's saying,

1:03:40.560 --> 1:03:42.680
<v Speaker 1>Oh the old is right, So y'all know the mind

1:03:42.720 --> 1:03:45.600
<v Speaker 1>y'all business? What the fun y'all calling me for? He said, damn,

1:03:45.680 --> 1:03:47.960
<v Speaker 1>you know we're going down there. You're doing something you

1:03:48.000 --> 1:03:50.600
<v Speaker 1>ain't supposed to be doing. He said, listen, no heads,

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<v Speaker 1>I understand y'all been in prison for a while, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna let y'all know, because y'all know what's going

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<v Speaker 1>on out there. Y'all old niggas playing by some rules

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<v Speaker 1>in the book that nobody reading on. We said that ship.

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<v Speaker 1>He backed me up. He was like younger was about.

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<v Speaker 1>He couldn't have been no more than twenty. He backed

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<v Speaker 1>him off the gate. I get off the gate. I

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<v Speaker 1>go lay him up bed, I said, Jeff, back up

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<v Speaker 1>off the gate because I told my old head, Jeff,

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<v Speaker 1>there was another I said, back up, because he educated

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<v Speaker 1>me on the reality of life as it is right now.

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<v Speaker 1>And I can't say this for everybody, but to note

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<v Speaker 1>that that idea is out there, that that mindset is

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<v Speaker 1>out there. And I already was had my mind made

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<v Speaker 1>up anyway. I ain't going home to do nothing, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's just like wow. So I'm trying to tell these

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<v Speaker 1>young cats when I'm doing my post, I'm like, yo, man,

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<v Speaker 1>it costs too much to be a criminal, because ain't

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<v Speaker 1>nothing gonna be more painful than when you hear your

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<v Speaker 1>mom crying behind you. When you're in that courtroom and

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<v Speaker 1>you're sitting in there, you're Laurier right here. You're public

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<v Speaker 1>defending because a lot of dudes they't got no money.

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<v Speaker 1>You're sitting right here with your public defender. You're sitting

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<v Speaker 1>right here, your mom and your sisters and all them

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<v Speaker 1>in backing you in the courtroom. And when that motherfucker, no,

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<v Speaker 1>when that motherfucker walked up on that stand and the

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<v Speaker 1>d A saying yeah, excuse me, how do you know

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<v Speaker 1>Mr Willie d How do you know Mr Willie Davis?

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<v Speaker 1>And do you know him? Yeah? I know him? How

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<v Speaker 1>long have you know him? Oh? His mom used to

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<v Speaker 1>babysit me. And your mom started crying in the back

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<v Speaker 1>because your childhood friend telling me you because he realized

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<v Speaker 1>he wasn't really the real naked that he said he

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<v Speaker 1>was Instagram. That's when life. So my thing be like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just trying to tell dudes, yo, get the funk out,

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<v Speaker 1>go switch the ship up, because it's real. Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>ain't trying to, you know, I'm just telling dudes like, yo, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I live that ship. It wasn't worth it. Spent my

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<v Speaker 1>whole life in jail. I'm just trying to get your

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<v Speaker 1>information based off a lived experience. I ain't know, motherfucking square,

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<v Speaker 1>telling you don't do this, don't do that. I'm telling

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<v Speaker 1>you like this, and man, that ship hurt when you're

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<v Speaker 1>in the penitentiary day after day after day and your

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<v Speaker 1>body start hurting me and you start getting weak inside

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<v Speaker 1>based off of you just want to go home grown

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<v Speaker 1>man or not. You're like, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>hug my mom. I wanna hug my grandmama. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to see my kids, and you can't. It's a whole different,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. The code part is like when you are

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<v Speaker 1>in the streets and hustling, a lot of times you rationalize,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing this for my kids. I'm doing this, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing this for my girl. I'm doing this for

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<v Speaker 1>my mom to get my mom a new house, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>get out of or whatever. And you know when you

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<v Speaker 1>get jammed up, and you will get jammed up. When

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<v Speaker 1>you get jammed up, usually you know you can hardly

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<v Speaker 1>afford a lawyer when they do get you, because even

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<v Speaker 1>if you got the money, a lot of times they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna freeze whatever money you already hadna take whatever you

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<v Speaker 1>got and yeah, and anything you got stats in the crib.

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<v Speaker 1>The people that you love the most are gonna run

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<v Speaker 1>through your money. This happened to me, that's so, I know.

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<v Speaker 1>So they're gonna run through your money and you'll probably

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<v Speaker 1>think about killing them, but you probably won't because it's

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<v Speaker 1>like your mother and your brother sill. So yeah so

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<v Speaker 1>so uh but all of this money, everything that you do, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you end up losing everything once you go in. And

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<v Speaker 1>then what happens is that whatever you did is now

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<v Speaker 1>exacerbated by the fact that you got a criminal record now.

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<v Speaker 1>And so now even if when you get out, you're

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<v Speaker 1>further behind than you were when you were just broken,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have a criminal record, now you this, this life

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<v Speaker 1>of crime, didn't put you even further behind because nobody

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<v Speaker 1>wants to hire you, nobody wants to deal with you,

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<v Speaker 1>and people don't trust you. So also, are you really

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<v Speaker 1>doing it? Are you doing it? Are you doing it

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<v Speaker 1>for you? Are you really are you doing it for

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<v Speaker 1>the kids, Because if you're doing it for the kids,

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<v Speaker 1>the most important thing for your kids is presents, not presents,

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<v Speaker 1>your presence, not presence. That is the absolute most important

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<v Speaker 1>thing for a child. And so when you once you

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<v Speaker 1>remove yourself from the house. Now the house is open,

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<v Speaker 1>it's wide open to be raped and pillaged. You locked up,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't do nothing about it. Some dudes coming through

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<v Speaker 1>the house, and you know, after a while, if you

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<v Speaker 1>stay long enough, he's gonna start looking at your kids.

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<v Speaker 1>Your daughter might be but it might he might be

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<v Speaker 1>looking at your son. And then when your son, now,

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<v Speaker 1>your son has to become a man faster than what

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<v Speaker 1>he's supposed to be because he's trying to feel your shoes,

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<v Speaker 1>and thus the cycle repeats itself. That's what happened to

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<v Speaker 1>while basically trying to feel the shoes of a man's

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<v Speaker 1>doing something that another a man should have been doing,

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<v Speaker 1>that was responsible for him, that bring him to this world.

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<v Speaker 1>So so that it's it's a vicious cycle. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>the moment that we understand that that we really get

1:08:51.439 --> 1:08:54.200
<v Speaker 1>that it's a trap. And you know, nobody likes just

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<v Speaker 1>like in a relationship, nobody likes to be made of

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<v Speaker 1>a fool, fool of if you once you realize if

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<v Speaker 1>you're in a relationship and somebody made you out of

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<v Speaker 1>a fool, you don't want to be with that person.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't want to deal with that person anymore. So,

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<v Speaker 1>why do we allow this system that we know it's

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<v Speaker 1>stacked against us, that we know is designed to make

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<v Speaker 1>us out of a fool? Why do we allow the

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<v Speaker 1>system to make us out of a fool? It's real,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know it's like, uh, like me, well, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of my funers' understand they see me. I'm happy,

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<v Speaker 1>ay because I'm happy to be out here. And a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of my homies died. My brother got killed, he

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<v Speaker 1>got shot, died in my grandma arms and the door

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<v Speaker 1>step out of you know, the crib I was raised

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<v Speaker 1>in um And it's like it's so much for me,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'd be happy because I'm living. I'm out here

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<v Speaker 1>living for his kids. That's the most gangster ship I

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<v Speaker 1>can have ever done in my life. You know. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>there for my brother's kid, him, there for my family.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all that. That's gangster, you know. Uh. And it'd

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<v Speaker 1>be like like like, I'm just trying to show motherfucker's

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<v Speaker 1>really really real? Is who you are, not what you do?

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<v Speaker 1>Really really it's just real. Is that if you want, motherfucker,

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<v Speaker 1>you get a baby day. You work at Wendy's, you

1:10:02.600 --> 1:10:05.080
<v Speaker 1>work at Bernie King you're doing you, you go home,

1:10:05.200 --> 1:10:08.200
<v Speaker 1>you play the games, you kick it with whoever that's you,

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<v Speaker 1>bro be. That ain't wrong with that. But but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>as black people, we put so much priority and so

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<v Speaker 1>much status on being a cool motherfucker, being lit, having

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<v Speaker 1>cards so so so it'd be like we are our

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<v Speaker 1>whole outlook a real. It's imagine the ship. Real got

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<v Speaker 1>something to do with a real to us A lot

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<v Speaker 1>of times Real got something to do with some criminal

1:10:29.880 --> 1:10:32.760
<v Speaker 1>ship He real nigga getting money her real name. He

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<v Speaker 1>shot Willie D last week. Real he shot a motherfucker.

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<v Speaker 1>You get more praise for doing something to another motherfucking

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<v Speaker 1>black people is than just doing yourself. You know what

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<v Speaker 1>I don't get, man, I don't I don't get how

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<v Speaker 1>people who kill people and I in our neighborhood is

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<v Speaker 1>accepted back into the community. Like when you live in

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<v Speaker 1>up and like I'll say specifically a white community predominant

1:10:56.680 --> 1:10:59.760
<v Speaker 1>predominantly white community. If you take the life of some

1:11:00.000 --> 1:11:02.960
<v Speaker 1>body that's in that neighborhood, your whole family got to

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<v Speaker 1>get the funk out because it's it's two reasons were

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<v Speaker 1>The main reason is that hey, man, just murder somebody

1:11:09.000 --> 1:11:11.720
<v Speaker 1>where you murder somebody, and guess what happens. It makes

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<v Speaker 1>the property value go to crime makes the property value

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<v Speaker 1>go down. And murder is the worst crime you can commit.

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<v Speaker 1>So they're like, get the funk out. You're bringing up.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna make you devalue in my home and devalue

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<v Speaker 1>my property. So they're gonna push your ass all the

1:11:27.160 --> 1:11:31.840
<v Speaker 1>way out. But us, you know, in the hood, this

1:11:32.000 --> 1:11:34.720
<v Speaker 1>person go out there and kill somebody in the neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 1>And they come back, and we said, we call him,

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<v Speaker 1>we give him a nickname, call them killer. We have

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<v Speaker 1>a day we throw a damn barbecue for him or something,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, after they don't kill somebody, and they have

1:11:43.520 --> 1:11:46.880
<v Speaker 1>a barbecue and everybody people show up and everybody's celebrating,

1:11:46.880 --> 1:11:49.800
<v Speaker 1>and you just you know, it's when you live a

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<v Speaker 1>certain way and you condition to be a certain way.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of times, man, everything that's bad is viewed

1:11:56.560 --> 1:11:59.920
<v Speaker 1>that's good, and everything good is viewed that's bad. It's

1:12:00.200 --> 1:12:03.360
<v Speaker 1>speaking of the good and the bad. You oftentimes will

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<v Speaker 1>give advice to a lot of young men who want

1:12:07.960 --> 1:12:10.720
<v Speaker 1>that advice about women. Where where did you get in

1:12:10.840 --> 1:12:13.479
<v Speaker 1>your game? First of all, your game be like ice

1:12:13.640 --> 1:12:20.960
<v Speaker 1>cold on point I realized, But where where does that

1:12:21.120 --> 1:12:23.000
<v Speaker 1>come from? Man? That like, did you did you have

1:12:23.120 --> 1:12:25.000
<v Speaker 1>an O G that you looked up to? They passed

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<v Speaker 1>the game down to you as this back. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I'd like to say we was the last

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<v Speaker 1>ever that came from They had old heads, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that respected our old heads. You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>For me, I'm from Ariab, North Philly. We always was

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, some slick talking mom. That's just like

1:12:43.120 --> 1:12:47.559
<v Speaker 1>our neighborhood, you know what I'm saying. But but for us,

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<v Speaker 1>it was it was just more just experience. I've seen

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of ship. I've been through a lot of ship.

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<v Speaker 1>I've done a lot of ships, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>So for me, it's like, if I don't get eat

1:12:59.040 --> 1:13:01.920
<v Speaker 1>the youth some type of game, some type and what

1:13:02.040 --> 1:13:05.000
<v Speaker 1>we call game is god. It's attention, motivation and education.

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<v Speaker 1>If I don't, if I don't bless him, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>give him some some type of game, some type of knowledge.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I might just trigger one person, two people,

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<v Speaker 1>three people. You know, That's all that mattered to me.

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<v Speaker 1>We was in the mall yesterday. It's funny you said

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<v Speaker 1>we was in the mall yesterday. Man, and this kid

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<v Speaker 1>from New Orleans that live in Houston now seeing us. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>this young and was probably about two years old, started crying,

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<v Speaker 1>y'all niggas like, father figures to me, man, and you

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<v Speaker 1>can tell that this kid is really from the mud,

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<v Speaker 1>like literally this maybe bonds and was with his woman.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like, hold on, Mitch, wait, nigga, who do

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<v Speaker 1>but he's seen this and he like, man, y'a don't understand.

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<v Speaker 1>I live by the ship. Y'all be saying, man like

1:13:56.640 --> 1:13:59.559
<v Speaker 1>I ain't handle father, like I ain't handle mall figures

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<v Speaker 1>that and just started crying right there in to morrow.

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<v Speaker 1>So it'd be things like that that happened that I'd

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<v Speaker 1>be like, that's guy way of telling us what y'all

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<v Speaker 1>niggas is doing his work. Keep giving that ship to him,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, absolutely, man, And we want to thank y'all

1:14:18.479 --> 1:14:22.080
<v Speaker 1>for that guy. That's attention, motivation and education. I ain't

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<v Speaker 1>got to tell y'all to keep doing it because I didn't.

1:14:24.040 --> 1:14:25.960
<v Speaker 1>I didn't have to tell you to start doing So

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<v Speaker 1>we love y'all, man, We appreciate you. App check y'all. Man,

1:14:30.120 --> 1:14:34.519
<v Speaker 1>y'all you guys, you know definitely an inspiration man, keep

1:14:34.520 --> 1:14:37.200
<v Speaker 1>going doing that. I would be remissing not speak on

1:14:37.280 --> 1:14:39.320
<v Speaker 1>this trade A. This is the reason why you guys

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<v Speaker 1>out there, that's that's what the teacher man a lot

1:14:42.280 --> 1:14:48.280
<v Speaker 1>of stuff, the community kids. He yeah, we had to

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<v Speaker 1>be here. And I want to say this to y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to get you all your flowers. I always

1:14:51.760 --> 1:14:54.800
<v Speaker 1>get o gs and hip Hop the flowers because and

1:14:54.880 --> 1:14:56.720
<v Speaker 1>I always tell the young cats when we talked to him,

1:14:56.760 --> 1:15:01.200
<v Speaker 1>like yo, yesterday is the reason today is able to

1:15:01.280 --> 1:15:04.680
<v Speaker 1>make so much money. The opportunity, you know. And I

1:15:04.760 --> 1:15:07.040
<v Speaker 1>tell them, I say, the money that y'all see in

1:15:07.120 --> 1:15:09.000
<v Speaker 1>the week. Some of these cats ain't seeing a three

1:15:09.080 --> 1:15:12.240
<v Speaker 1>or four year career. So you know, I'm just thankful

1:15:12.280 --> 1:15:14.080
<v Speaker 1>that y'all was able to create something, to be a

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<v Speaker 1>part of something that's so great that we have today

1:15:16.600 --> 1:15:18.439
<v Speaker 1>where so many people is able to take care of

1:15:18.479 --> 1:15:20.640
<v Speaker 1>their families. Because when I'm looking at I'm looking at

1:15:20.680 --> 1:15:25.320
<v Speaker 1>the producer, the manager, the engineer, everybody is a part

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<v Speaker 1>of this thing called hip hop. The promoter, uh, everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>the agents, the booking agent, the pure This system is

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<v Speaker 1>so strong, and it wasn't it strong back in the day.

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<v Speaker 1>We didn't have all these departments and all these different

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<v Speaker 1>people that could just getting filthy rich off it. But like,

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate your offer, just all your contributions to the

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<v Speaker 1>hip hop and what we have today. You know, absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>we appreciate you. Thank you man. It's like that, y'all right.

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