Speaker 1: Get getting boys. It's back and reloaded all in your mind. Yeah,
Speaker 1: now deep throating. This is for the streets, the reel,
Speaker 1: the railroading, the disenfranchise, the truth, the scapegoating. And they
Speaker 1: ain't knowing we speak the truth, so they ain't quoted
Speaker 1: because we wrote it. The North South East coat g
Speaker 1: b my, keeping your head bobbing. It ain't no stopping.
Speaker 1: It wants to be trip head by then. The system
Speaker 1: is so corrupt they threw the rock out their heads
Speaker 1: and then blame it on us. Don't get it twisted
Speaker 1: on code and me dancing for no buttament biscuits. It's
Speaker 1: Willie d y'all scar facing the building. Collectively, we are
Speaker 1: the ghetto boys. Reloaded, Reloaded with another episode of information
Speaker 1: and instructions to help you navigate through this wild, crazy,
Speaker 1: beautiful world. In the studio getting the kids, Will and
Speaker 1: I was worth a game, Baby reloaded, Baby said the
Speaker 1: game now feeling. Here's two million dollars game. It's going down,
Speaker 1: powerhouses coming together. Yes, this is beautiful, man, it's good
Speaker 1: to see it. We have right now. We had to
Speaker 1: point in over return, Yeah, come in and uh. We
Speaker 1: had the point of number cranking sh up he's so
Speaker 1: hard on. You can't funk man. He's another he's a
Speaker 1: fucking nut. You can't come on, man, I don't pay
Speaker 1: no attention. Actually I really don't. Sleep. Y'all don't see
Speaker 1: all the extra ship that go on before the camera
Speaker 1: come on. So they just looked like when you got
Speaker 1: to deal with this motherfucker for on a daily basis,
Speaker 1: crazy man, and he's still trapped in prison. Everything was
Speaker 1: doing back to the prison, when I was in jail,
Speaker 1: When I was in jail, when I was in jail, Letten, listen,
Speaker 1: you kind of get just relating to journeys in my life.
Speaker 1: If you say something to somebody talking to you about something,
Speaker 1: you want to talk about the moment where you feel
Speaker 1: it though you read something or you know something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm connected with the moment of oh yeah, I remember
Speaker 1: I was in the joint and we had a conversation
Speaker 1: with somebody about that. Fuck you're talking about some ship.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna talk. I'm gonna related to him. I'm
Speaker 1: talking about Wilder man sleep, I'm talking about when y'all
Speaker 1: gambling playing basketball. You suck with him because a lot
Speaker 1: of times he talked himself into them ass whippings, he
Speaker 1: be the one. What you want to bet and all
Speaker 1: that dumb something like, Bro, I seen I've seen Gilly
Speaker 1: hit a sixty ft and a goal about this day
Speaker 1: on you dog. Yeah, he's been practicing. And then my
Speaker 1: a c l been tendered. So it's a lot of ship.
Speaker 1: It's like it's you know, nig had more excuses than
Speaker 1: they got. They got disrupted while that go, you know,
Speaker 1: surgery ship none unless absolute pleasure to have y'all y'all coming, Bro,
Speaker 1: you know when the o gs come, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm a hip hop storian, so this is
Speaker 1: always good for me, your contribution to hip hop. A
Speaker 1: lot of young cats probably don't even know how powerful
Speaker 1: y'a was. And how you know when I when I
Speaker 1: see Willie go off on on Instagram, whenever he's saying
Speaker 1: some ship, I'm looking at it different. The reason I'm
Speaker 1: looking at it different because Willie was saying some ship
Speaker 1: when it wasn't. Poperless ship might on your door. When
Speaker 1: you say some ship, uh to a lot of young people,
Speaker 1: y'all gotta understand. Uh. If y'all go back and y'all
Speaker 1: listen to Resurrection, y'all listen to the Point of No Return,
Speaker 1: where you know with J Prince come on there here
Speaker 1: on the phone call talking to like Hoover and uh,
Speaker 1: it was like they was taking off on. This is
Speaker 1: one of the greatest songs to get a boys to me,
Speaker 1: this is one of mine's personally, y'all had a lot
Speaker 1: of ship, but this was one of the greatest songs
Speaker 1: because it was so informative. The information. It was like
Speaker 1: black history, Uh, the slaughter of black It was just
Speaker 1: so much in Willie verse. You know, he come on
Speaker 1: and he just go to crazy el Hoover. I wish
Speaker 1: you wasn't there so I could put a bullet in
Speaker 1: your motherfucking head. Got damnag, motherfucking drag queen. I wish
Speaker 1: you didn't put it hit on Mark Luther King, Fred Hampton,
Speaker 1: mackolm and the other ran that pomp motherfucker. It was
Speaker 1: just he didn't Willie didn't get I gotta get Willie
Speaker 1: slis because because Willie was like this, it was no
Speaker 1: Instagram like then people could have knocked on his door
Speaker 1: on some other ship. See, I didn't know that will
Speaker 1: WILLI just was this motherfucker. But he was educating us
Speaker 1: through rap, and it was so much passion and it
Speaker 1: was like he was pissed the funk off, like you
Speaker 1: motherfucker's you know. And then and then and then with
Speaker 1: one of my favorite parts was legendary. It was a
Speaker 1: legendary and it was like and it was like the
Speaker 1: fact that j Prince would even give that exposure and
Speaker 1: get him a vehicle to be able to vent his
Speaker 1: struggle that he was taking place in the system, it
Speaker 1: was like nobody would do that because motherfucker's be scared
Speaker 1: to touch that. And he's he's buried in the prison
Speaker 1: and he's like, yo, man, he's trying to stop my family.
Speaker 1: The clothing they trying to do that. And Jay said, man,
Speaker 1: well listen, you know we're gonna do We gotta sell
Speaker 1: it through the albums. We're gonna sell it through this
Speaker 1: back when they had the tapes and you had the
Speaker 1: pee old box and you had the clothes and the tapes.
Speaker 1: Remember you fold the ship over this story a story
Speaker 1: you're because when you folded it's multiple panels. You had
Speaker 1: the credits, you had who did the beat, who mixed it,
Speaker 1: who engineered the ship, you had anything, the fan club information,
Speaker 1: so so it was real and it was like Willie
Speaker 1: was just like so when I see Willie on the join,
Speaker 1: motherucker may see a motherfucker' saying something to have in
Speaker 1: their opinion. You know, you're talking about the motherfucker that
Speaker 1: was on the front line when it wasn't no line. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Willie has always been like that. And I want to
Speaker 1: introduce the world to uh to Willie Dee's first solo album, Controversy,
Speaker 1: and you'll see how far I had his time that
Speaker 1: Willie was because his first fucking album is unbelievable. And
Speaker 1: you know, I don't, I don't, I don't care a
Speaker 1: lot of hip hop in my in my in my phone,
Speaker 1: but I got his album in there, you know. And
Speaker 1: and and his album meant so much to me on
Speaker 1: my rise on meeting me getting into the game, because
Speaker 1: this album was already out when I got with the
Speaker 1: Ghetto Boys. Okay, it's a little hip hop history since
Speaker 1: she loved it so much. Did you know that when
Speaker 1: I joined the Ghetto Boys, Willie d had an album
Speaker 1: get ready to come out already and his project was
Speaker 1: so influential to me and on me until you know,
Speaker 1: I wanted to, you know, make music like that. I
Speaker 1: wanted to make raps like that. I wanted to be apologetic,
Speaker 1: you know, fuck y'all. And that's how his first album, well,
Speaker 1: I don't give a funk about none of that. The
Speaker 1: welfare bitches, fu the KKK fuck to all that ship.
Speaker 1: You gotta hear Willie Dee's first album controversy, and it
Speaker 1: was a huge influence on on on on the way
Speaker 1: my ship sound. Even today, I'll still take some of
Speaker 1: that ship that Willie said maybe, like, yeah, I gotta
Speaker 1: get some of that ship on my ship. You said
Speaker 1: when you came to the Ghetto Boys, So who was
Speaker 1: the Ghetto Boys before you came to the Ghetto boy
Speaker 1: I let Willie answer that question. He knew all in there,
Speaker 1: so when when when he that was? That's been like
Speaker 1: four different from um, that's been like four different installments
Speaker 1: of the Ghetto Boys before before yeah, before me and
Speaker 1: Brad came. Uh. They very first started off with this
Speaker 1: a single called car Freak and that that was Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was that was ju box, Um, that was Johnny
Speaker 1: C never made the records. It was started for K nine,
Speaker 1: But can I end up getting arrested to K nine
Speaker 1: is not even on any of the albums any covers
Speaker 1: or nothing singles. Nothing. So the very first installment was
Speaker 1: Raheen ju Box and Johnny C. That's car Freak. And
Speaker 1: then the album, the first album, Making Trouble was Ready
Speaker 1: Red juke Box and Johnny C. Right, and Bill is
Speaker 1: on the cover. But he wasn't rapping. He was just
Speaker 1: a dancer at the time. So he was Bill was
Speaker 1: a dance. He would just he come out and warmed
Speaker 1: the crowd up, you know, and he was Yeah, I
Speaker 1: would never Willie he was. He was so so yeah
Speaker 1: he turned it out, jump up that and get on
Speaker 1: that stage and just just got a food. But yeah,
Speaker 1: he he would turn it out. You strip out that
Speaker 1: party one year, right, Yeah, he got naked one time,
Speaker 1: not on stage, on the stage, but he was the corner.
Speaker 1: But I didn't know what I was doing that It's crazy.
Speaker 1: I didn't willingly get naked. Yeah, So that that was
Speaker 1: so So they only had put out one album before
Speaker 1: we came in. I thought it was Johnny C in
Speaker 1: the group. Okay, so that's the that's the first thing. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's okay, So that's Canine. So it was Canine, uh
Speaker 1: Jukebox and Ryanan Okay, that was the first okay, my bad,
Speaker 1: my I stand corrected. Okay, so that's the first and
Speaker 1: then on the album cover they're making Trouble album. Ended
Speaker 1: up buying a carbro car freak. Yeah there making Trouble album.
Speaker 1: Um when I got some money, uh custom. So for
Speaker 1: the making Trouble album, cana I went to jail and
Speaker 1: cana I was replaced with Prince Johnny C. And so
Speaker 1: you had Prince Johnny C juke Box and Ready Red
Speaker 1: and Bushwick was you know on the cover. Yeah. Right.
Speaker 1: So when I came in, I started off as a
Speaker 1: writer for the New Ghetto Boys project, but Jay like
Speaker 1: what I was doing so much he asked me to
Speaker 1: join the group. Okay, so because I wrote letter who
Speaker 1: Bia Hoo and do It Like a Jail? Those were
Speaker 1: the first two songs I wrote for Ghetto Boys and
Speaker 1: Jay liked it. He liked what I was doing, and
Speaker 1: he like this this direction I want to go in.
Speaker 1: Because if you listen to that first album that car
Speaker 1: that the Making Trouble, you know it kind of sound.
Speaker 1: It was kind of sound like some run DMC style boy.
Speaker 1: So when I came in, I was like like doing
Speaker 1: like a g o, you know, like I came in,
Speaker 1: you know, uh just going off going like that, and
Speaker 1: he was like, yeah, that's the direction I want to
Speaker 1: take the group in. So he gave the two guys
Speaker 1: in the group and all tomatic, hey man, either y'all
Speaker 1: get with this program or y'all can go solo. But
Speaker 1: this is the way I'm going. Prince downc decided immediately
Speaker 1: he was gonna go solo. Juke Box decided that he
Speaker 1: was gonna be in the group, but so he was
Speaker 1: initially was supposed to still be in the new the
Speaker 1: next installment of the group, but when we all got together,
Speaker 1: j told me like, hey man, I got this other
Speaker 1: guy from the South Side, uh name DJ Action. He
Speaker 1: was talking about Brad because Brad was called DJ Action
Speaker 1: back DJ before all that ship. Yeah, I didn't scratch
Speaker 1: like you wouldn't believe. I DJ the coming parties. It
Speaker 1: doesn't matter in prison, but go ahead that no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I used to make not I mean to cut you off.
Speaker 1: I used to make mixtapes and I used to I
Speaker 1: used to DJ offer tapes. No I did too, man
Speaker 1: like Oak say, see that's that's when my Jackie was
Speaker 1: not and I just played a tape jacket radio yeah,
Speaker 1: and you put the paper going in front of and
Speaker 1: then you blind like that. Yeah, I did that ship
Speaker 1: so so obviously wasn't blood that good outside in here?
Speaker 1: Because I didn't. I didn't grow up DJ and I
Speaker 1: didn't not. I ain't gonna do no, no no, no, just
Speaker 1: you gotta stand And they grew up stealing cars. Go ahead,
Speaker 1: some real ship. He didn't grow up. Listen to rapt
Speaker 1: this last listen this motherfucker tell him the first tape
Speaker 1: you had, but now I used someone else? The first
Speaker 1: rap when you use all this nice when for real
Speaker 1: man here that was in your first da first date
Speaker 1: was be but you have vanill Ice too. I don't
Speaker 1: know what you're talking about. He want to lie scarf
Speaker 1: like you have enough? You want to fight me? Even
Speaker 1: if that was what front on the name like that
Speaker 1: in front of the what's the first tape? That's the
Speaker 1: first take? Listen to uh, the first tape I was
Speaker 1: listening to was did you own it? Vanilla Ice? Save
Speaker 1: just bed? Did it happen to be home on coming out?
Speaker 1: So you don't want the two else is in the household?
Speaker 1: That may have been nobody else he was he was
Speaker 1: the oldest. Nobody else could listen to rack. She could
Speaker 1: listen listen to money. Right there, you magically had the
Speaker 1: Vanilla Ice in w Was you cruising in your five point,
Speaker 1: you know, with the ragtail down so your hair could blow? No, yes,
Speaker 1: she was. He was listening to fucking Ice Ice speaker.
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, wait, wait, wait while you remember you
Speaker 1: know the words ynxiety, right, I didn't know the worst.
Speaker 1: Give me a pack? Come on, man, you know the worst?
Speaker 1: To come on, man, you cannot said the same words
Speaker 1: over it was you was listening to it. I got
Speaker 1: a story about Vanilla the story. So when I used
Speaker 1: to battle, I started off as a battle rapper and
Speaker 1: Vanilla as Vanilla Ice, used to come from Dallas, him
Speaker 1: and a couple of black dudes. They would come down
Speaker 1: periodically and get in the rap battle contest. And the
Speaker 1: rap battle was twofold. It had one one part of
Speaker 1: it was first you had to qualify by just doing
Speaker 1: a regular rap, and then if you made it to
Speaker 1: the next round, then that's when you rank on each other.
Speaker 1: So I would always end up in the battle rap
Speaker 1: part of it. Vanilla Ice would do his part. And
Speaker 1: you know, I ain't trying to rag on a dude
Speaker 1: or nothing, but you know it was lack luster, you
Speaker 1: know what he would said to qualify. But they wanted
Speaker 1: him because he had a swag about himself, in a
Speaker 1: confidence about himself, and he really felt like his ship
Speaker 1: was doper than everybody and ship. He just had that
Speaker 1: type of a ship. And people wanted to see him
Speaker 1: in the battle rap part. So they will cheer for
Speaker 1: him to get into the battle rap part, no matter
Speaker 1: what he said in the regular part. And he's coming
Speaker 1: to that battle rap pot and Ki lit the funk
Speaker 1: up and and and so that's how I knew. I
Speaker 1: knew him from way back then when he before he
Speaker 1: got on, Jake let me hear his demo, that ey
Speaker 1: sized baby. I heard the demo and he asked me,
Speaker 1: I didn't just hear it. I saw the VHS tap
Speaker 1: of it. I saw him performing on stage and if
Speaker 1: they're dancing, and he asked me what I was kids,
Speaker 1: I don't understand it was a VCR, I asked him.
Speaker 1: And when he asked me what I thought about it,
Speaker 1: and I said, he white and you can dance. I
Speaker 1: signed him, you know, Oh so j Prince had a
Speaker 1: chance to sign h Yeah, he missed it. He missed it.
Speaker 1: Damn Yeah, he was like he said, I said he,
Speaker 1: I said he white. Actually, I said he white. He
Speaker 1: can't wrap that good, but he can dance. I signed
Speaker 1: him and ship man. It wasn't even two months later.
Speaker 1: I said, man, it was ice ice baby will don't
Speaker 1: do it everywhere? And he hit the song. He anybody
Speaker 1: knew that boys for the fans, Dude, don't put me
Speaker 1: in that ship. He don't put him. Did he notice
Speaker 1: me and that ship? He probably he probably he noticed that.
Speaker 1: I'm that you At least one time we got splitting.
Speaker 1: The came out to speaking. But you know what, Man
Speaker 1: Vanilli is credit man. I really do have to give
Speaker 1: him credit. He had what it took to get into
Speaker 1: the game. You know, he had hustled everybody. You know,
Speaker 1: he had hustled everybody else, and he had he had
Speaker 1: supreme confidence in himself. So this is when other people
Speaker 1: didn't really care for him, and other people like laughing,
Speaker 1: and he was like, yall, he just didn't care what
Speaker 1: everybody else was saying. It was like he was numb
Speaker 1: to it. He was deaf to what everybody was saying.
Speaker 1: He's like he got in the lane and he just
Speaker 1: put those hearts blind his own and he just went forward.
Speaker 1: So I give him credit for that. If he didn't
Speaker 1: have that, he probably wouldn't have made it. But a
Speaker 1: lot of people, a lot of a lot of people
Speaker 1: got after kind of like, uh, play a mind game
Speaker 1: with themselves, you know, makeum believe themselves as more than
Speaker 1: actually what they are. Because did that? But I mean
Speaker 1: because because at the end of the day, you already
Speaker 1: felt as though. I didn't even feel that. I just
Speaker 1: felt like I was. I was trying to get in
Speaker 1: while where I fit in, and I wouldn't. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: overly fucking think I can wrap like a motherfucker. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think you will, he will not think, but
Speaker 1: I don't. He wasn't like that in the beginning. But
Speaker 1: when his ship got hot, are you over that? You
Speaker 1: have some growing it? He didn't let you have some
Speaker 1: growing to do? Face listen, listen. Oh So when did it?
Speaker 1: What's the air part? You? Memanb We always just on
Speaker 1: Brothers Club. He said, ain't nobody fucking with me? I said,
Speaker 1: don't know, nobody want to funk with me? Where did
Speaker 1: that come up? With the energy? Ye? When you energy? Na,
Speaker 1: It wasn't back then, right, now that nah, that that
Speaker 1: energy started, he isn't that energy probably started in ninety two.
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just you know, you gotta have that
Speaker 1: kind of intality. What I was listening to catalog like
Speaker 1: I robed my son man, and We'll be listening to
Speaker 1: my catalog and I'll be like, you know what, Chris Well,
Speaker 1: I was a bad motherfucker. And this one morning y'all
Speaker 1: just called me on the bad because I just got
Speaker 1: through listening to my ship and he was like, who
Speaker 1: you want to do a versions with? I don't know,
Speaker 1: nobody want to with me. I just started ninth. I
Speaker 1: can go back to nine two right now, to nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety now now, and if a motherfuck you keep up
Speaker 1: with that catalog face again, that's a bad that's a
Speaker 1: mother man eight nine. When I stopped Willie sixteen, it
Speaker 1: was a bad motherfucker. But you know one thing, face
Speaker 1: one of my favorite songs that yours, and it was
Speaker 1: just that. That's why I quit right there, cos Nika
Speaker 1: got a favorite song of mine. Well, I got you.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, I'm I'm a I'm a fan. I
Speaker 1: got to I'm just and you if you had a
Speaker 1: h if you had a zoo. You guess you would
Speaker 1: never guess my favorite song one of them. It wasn't
Speaker 1: on a diary. I forget the name of the album.
Speaker 1: But listen, I'm gonna tell you. I know what the
Speaker 1: name of it was. It wasn't You by Yourself? Okay,
Speaker 1: so was wasn't Nope, I'm gonna tell you my favorite joint.
Speaker 1: It was on your Your label mate was on there?
Speaker 1: Who's your label mate? Money? No, he was on Tony Draper.
Speaker 1: Suave House was on my record? Okay, so was it
Speaker 1: Heaven No? So nothing? Uh Tony was Tony didn't rap? No, No,
Speaker 1: Tony Draper had Suave House Records. That's what label he
Speaker 1: was on. I'm telling him his label. Meet you signed
Speaker 1: a suave I know you did catch to the first
Speaker 1: come on Armed Robbery Remix. Yeah, you first person because
Speaker 1: he forgot even face forgot the Prince was the first
Speaker 1: thing they got read from ain't nor from I don't
Speaker 1: know what the funk. I was running Happy, we go,
Speaker 1: we go, I get signed the swive House, right do
Speaker 1: they don't? We're going now get it. We're gonna park
Speaker 1: a lot pimping. I'm thinking this is a fucking club
Speaker 1: man all damn like, yeah, we're gonna park a lot
Speaker 1: pimper laid on. Yeah, I mean this is ninety nine.
Speaker 1: I've never heard of no fucking parking lot. Pimpe bro.
Speaker 1: We pull up, they get off the cars and we're
Speaker 1: chilling in the parking lot, and I'm like, I'm like
Speaker 1: to name it was the name of the club. I
Speaker 1: can remember back to what you remember what day it was,
Speaker 1: I can tell you the club it was. I think
Speaker 1: it was the weekend. So mad be sitting there and yeah,
Speaker 1: we eight balling. All the bitches is out and you
Speaker 1: know we am sorry. I put it to give the cool.
Speaker 1: And then next thing I know, motherfucker said, I think
Speaker 1: J Prince get in the car. Gilly like, J Prince,
Speaker 1: get in the car. The nigger. I'm in the car.
Speaker 1: It's driveling like this. So I'm like, oh, man, so
Speaker 1: now I'm up under the dead. You ain't seen nobody. Now,
Speaker 1: I don't know who the fun jake Princess. Man, I
Speaker 1: ain't did nothing to nobody. I'm nobody who said you
Speaker 1: said ball? I ain't got no pistol ball and say it.
Speaker 1: Somebody else screamed out, rapping to take Prince he wos
Speaker 1: getting the carcase that happens with So when we pull
Speaker 1: the funk off and we get out of there, I
Speaker 1: get right back to the motherfucking studio and drip. I
Speaker 1: ain't never going to the motherfun club again. Next Monte
Speaker 1: Motherfucker's had me running from a nicker named Jay Prince. Man.
Speaker 1: I never ran from a nigger in my life. Man.
Speaker 1: That was the last up about it. But it was
Speaker 1: funny part about it is Drape was laughing thinking about that.
Speaker 1: So for me, it was just like it was like
Speaker 1: I just ran from a nigger. I don't know, Like
Speaker 1: I don't even know why we run it. You're fucking
Speaker 1: right when you see a nigger up under that stand,
Speaker 1: will you all this just ship? Some ship ray starts
Speaker 1: flying through this we got and they cook a man
Speaker 1: and ain't no cooker come out. Man, we can talk.
Speaker 1: I did the dashboard man about a nigga. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm never going to funk out with new niggas again. Man,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Niggas for life was my introduction in Houston. Man,
Speaker 1: you said that we want the parking lot of pimp
Speaker 1: And the next thing I know, I was up under
Speaker 1: the motherfucking what's the glove of something joint pulling the
Speaker 1: funk off for no reason. I ain't did nothing to nobody.
Speaker 1: Man from Philadelphia, don't know no fuckingbody out here. Man,
Speaker 1: they had you on the mission. I'm running from the
Speaker 1: minute that you connect with Drake. I connected with Drake
Speaker 1: because uh, it was a bit and war going on
Speaker 1: from with all the record labels up North. And then
Speaker 1: my lawyer called me and said, you you ever heard
Speaker 1: of swave House And I'm like, yeah, that's like with
Speaker 1: eight Ball and like yeah, yeah, he said, you know
Speaker 1: they just one platinum, Yeah, on a dependent. So for
Speaker 1: me it was like, okay, I already got up North
Speaker 1: as an independent. If I go down there and get
Speaker 1: with them, motherfucker's it's on. I was thinking about both sides, like,
Speaker 1: hold on, I'm an East Coast nigga already got this.
Speaker 1: I'm already running around doing shows everywhere. If I go
Speaker 1: get with them, it's so. And when I got with Drake,
Speaker 1: Drake had that same type of mentality, like I mean,
Speaker 1: we was in a meeting up in Universal and he
Speaker 1: like he need to do something with Nellie. This is
Speaker 1: before Nellie was even out Drake was not trying to
Speaker 1: hear that ship. He like, man, I'm trying to drop
Speaker 1: this sick and now like you got good crack cocaine,
Speaker 1: you put it anywhere. I got good crack cocaine. What's
Speaker 1: going on? Like so, but he was going through something
Speaker 1: internally with his situation. So then when he got out,
Speaker 1: yeah I got Yeah. So then when he what decided
Speaker 1: to go off a universal or whatever he did, I
Speaker 1: was doing a concert in Philly and cash money was
Speaker 1: there and that's when baby approached me, like so me
Speaker 1: and we got with Drake, We did the business, and
Speaker 1: then I want from nil over the cash money. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's how that happened. How didn end up with
Speaker 1: cash when I ain't sell no publishing? So you know
Speaker 1: kind of know how that ended up. Man, I've heard
Speaker 1: a lot of your stuff, right and and and you
Speaker 1: you cold blooded with the lyrics no ship like, man,
Speaker 1: do you ever like I wrote, I roached a lot
Speaker 1: of this stuff out there. Man, I was I was
Speaker 1: one of his writers. Man, how how do you how
Speaker 1: do you how do you? How do you feel? How
Speaker 1: do you feel about knowing we're not feeling but knowing
Speaker 1: that you got what it? Texts and you want of
Speaker 1: the top dude, that's you top spitter and not having
Speaker 1: to get up that hit that peak. What everybody know
Speaker 1: you for your music and not just some dude that
Speaker 1: you know hopped on the internet and became known whatever. Whatever.
Speaker 1: Understand I'm talking I'm talking about I'm talking universal. I'm
Speaker 1: talking about everywhere. I'm talking about where everybody know Gilly,
Speaker 1: that dude, Gilly the kid is that dude. I just
Speaker 1: want to like, there's no disrespect with but for you
Speaker 1: to say some of the things you said, I don't
Speaker 1: know if you was a little I don't know if
Speaker 1: you had a drink. This dude was doing. He was
Speaker 1: a boy, he was a board he was too doing
Speaker 1: board tours. You're hyping. You're giving him a little too
Speaker 1: much any man, Like, No, you're giving him a lot,
Speaker 1: Like like you really I think much of talking about you.
Speaker 1: He did two tours. Bars abound the country, the neighbor
Speaker 1: with bars. This motherfucker wasn't know. He's just playing the
Speaker 1: fucking arenas or amphitheaters. You're keeping them all this, You're
Speaker 1: like what you know? You know? In defense to your
Speaker 1: conduct and defense defense in defense of your comments. Then
Speaker 1: some of the greatest singers and entertainers and talented people
Speaker 1: playing bars every night. No, no, but I'm Willie ride
Speaker 1: with that ship, going on that ship. Your face back
Speaker 1: down off that. She was like, yeah, he's bout right.
Speaker 1: He ain't linking fighting. Man, Come on, why you keep
Speaker 1: putting me in that ship? Say listen, face, you put
Speaker 1: me in that ship here. A legend is a legend, man.
Speaker 1: Don't get sucked up these dudes giving you votes and ship.
Speaker 1: I don't even like it felt like it felt like,
Speaker 1: you know, I knew what I was up against. So
Speaker 1: because you know, Jay tried to sign me when I
Speaker 1: when we turned that situation down because it wasn't right.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I pretty much knew what
Speaker 1: I was up against. It was up with jay Z.
Speaker 1: It was sucked up. I mean, it wasn't right. You know.
Speaker 1: When when I went to Tony Draper, you know, it
Speaker 1: was like what you want? I was like, I want
Speaker 1: half a million dollars. I want to hunt it up,
Speaker 1: I want to hunt it up front. I want fifteen points.
Speaker 1: I want to bump a goal. I want bumping platinum
Speaker 1: drapers like I ain't never gave nobody to build Tony Draper.
Speaker 1: He said, I never gave nobody talking about man because
Speaker 1: I was in every label talking or were you talking
Speaker 1: about the fifth started fifteen and then to two? Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I was a young I was getting what right,
Speaker 1: So you know, for me it was like, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: Drake was like, I ain't never gave nobody. I said, okay, cool,
Speaker 1: I funk with you, Drape, but I'm you know, I
Speaker 1: gotta go back to Philly. He said, you know what,
Speaker 1: you got that and then we did the business and
Speaker 1: then you know, for whatever reason, I just feel like
Speaker 1: now when I look at my life, I feel like
Speaker 1: God never gave to me through all that bullshit to
Speaker 1: get why I am right now? You feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And now while Matt, while I'm at right now, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna kick their ass. I'm I'm gonna kick their ass
Speaker 1: every day, you know, jay Z or what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: because a lot of motherfucker's had me doing security at
Speaker 1: Ross right now. You know what I'm saying. Point motherfucker's
Speaker 1: to the uh the irregular polo t s and ship. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, do some type of U
Speaker 1: segment of some type of where you go out and
Speaker 1: work a regular job because you just wanted to let
Speaker 1: people know that this could have been security at Ross.
Speaker 1: Did you do what? Did you have? You ever worked
Speaker 1: for Ross before? And let you do it? Don't work?
Speaker 1: They let you do it. Yeah, working with my security
Speaker 1: jacket on and anything, just to get the feeling of
Speaker 1: what he would have been. I'm gonna do that. I
Speaker 1: stay two hours. I'm gonna go do that because I
Speaker 1: noticed where these niggers had me. Where you gonna work
Speaker 1: at ain't that's just crazy. He's not gonna go to
Speaker 1: he's doughnuts, doesn't get fat. No, I'm gonna say this.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take it back to this my favorite song.
Speaker 1: And jay Z is a good nigga man. He's a
Speaker 1: good man for real. I don't think jay Z is
Speaker 1: a good name. I think he's a good dude, a
Speaker 1: good man, a man. I used to don't like that.
Speaker 1: That's right, Willie. Now I'm gonna say this, you shut
Speaker 1: Tyler faces. Oh that was just a cool record to me.
Speaker 1: You know, that was just like I did that record.
Speaker 1: I was I made the bet for the record and
Speaker 1: too Short came in uh and um we we did
Speaker 1: our part at the same time. It was me and
Speaker 1: Short and Dad because Dad was in the studio. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the whole time we would go to this must be
Speaker 1: used to all the finest thing hip hop history. He
Speaker 1: love it, Yes, I love it. Come on Rahem the
Speaker 1: bench at Anti brote that hook? Yeah, damn, how did
Speaker 1: you get right in the studio Devin to do the
Speaker 1: hook in? Raheim is from what Philly or Chicago? I
Speaker 1: think he's from Philadelphia? Maybe New Jersey? No, no, no,
Speaker 1: he's not from New Jersey. He's from New Jersey. He
Speaker 1: maybe e from Philly. I gotta ask one got checked
Speaker 1: into that? Yeah, right is from Are you sure? How
Speaker 1: long did it take them? Like that whole studio session
Speaker 1: was was? I just no? He wasn't there, And I
Speaker 1: think that here's a thing. Uh. J Prince was signing
Speaker 1: Teeler to wrap a lot, so what better way to
Speaker 1: introduce him to He was leaving swaps, leave the swap,
Speaker 1: come in to rapp alte, so James put him on faces.
Speaker 1: At the end, it was just me, Short and Devon
Speaker 1: m He talked that ship and then Tiva came in
Speaker 1: at the end. Yeah, those beats you made it hot.
Speaker 1: I mean this ship was crashed before you know, you know,
Speaker 1: he don't. I'm gonna just say this because you listen,
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna fund man, Like because if you look
Speaker 1: at the record, if you look at this, if you
Speaker 1: look at the record right now, you must be used
Speaker 1: to all the finding things and that's your weight to
Speaker 1: buy with money. That's right now. It was straight money,
Speaker 1: you dude going and taking a shopping I mean, you
Speaker 1: see the whole people game he knocking like you've seen
Speaker 1: the whole games come in a ship? Yeah yeah, it
Speaker 1: was cool man. Yeah. But but a lot of a
Speaker 1: lot of um, a lot of beats that I made
Speaker 1: for that album, uh, transpired when people came in town
Speaker 1: and wanted to do some music, you know, like okay,
Speaker 1: put the headphones on. And first I was y and
Speaker 1: like I was telling annoying them like I'm I'm probably
Speaker 1: a way better producer than I am a fucking rapper,
Speaker 1: Like for real, thinks I think it beats? All right? Yeah?
Speaker 1: He will? You be on point, man, you know you're
Speaker 1: you're fucking you know, like I feel like the beats
Speaker 1: somebody else possibly could have done. But the lyrics, nah,
Speaker 1: you're fucking lyrics. That's the ship. That's where you. That's
Speaker 1: where you really get off at, you know. And I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you, I think the fans agree with me
Speaker 1: because they love the beats and ship. But when people
Speaker 1: think of you, the reason why people are so dear
Speaker 1: to you is because of how you make them feel
Speaker 1: with your lyrics, the words that you say. That is
Speaker 1: the ship that's so people on you. That ship was strong.
Speaker 1: I know that I made the beat too, Willie. Where
Speaker 1: they know now and they ain't they they're still not
Speaker 1: like that, ain't no, no, no, no, Now they fucking
Speaker 1: know that I did to be too, Willie. And they
Speaker 1: now that. Now they know that you did the beat
Speaker 1: and ship and that's cool. Hold now he got there
Speaker 1: because he needs to hear this ship. He got to
Speaker 1: hear this. Now you got to hear this ship. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: Now now that they know you made the beast right,
Speaker 1: and still are they talking about you being right now
Speaker 1: lyricist or a top five producer. Get in your motherfucking lane,
Speaker 1: man and accept it. Your motherfucking beats all right, Prince.
Speaker 1: Nobody nigging your music but yourself. Kids now the best.
Speaker 1: Don't bear the motherfucker. But I can see what say
Speaker 1: like if I heard the beats and ship. If I
Speaker 1: just heard your beats and ship, I would say, Okay,
Speaker 1: that's a dope producer, right, that's dope. It's dope's dope.
Speaker 1: Will you well the motherfucking lyrics? Bro? Will you wrapped
Speaker 1: on my ship? Man? Yeah? I did. You're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that ship dumped in the motherfucker it is. But I
Speaker 1: ain't motherfucking you know, I'm not top five alive on
Speaker 1: the beat Ton. He never you wasn't putting it out
Speaker 1: there that you was making the beats back then because
Speaker 1: I never knew you was making the beats. Yeah, yeah, hell.
Speaker 1: He always kind of had dibbling, dabbling and ship, even
Speaker 1: even with the ghetto boys. She pulled us some here,
Speaker 1: going that motherfucking do this. This is very very stages
Speaker 1: when he before he really took off as a producer.
Speaker 1: He's going that motherfucking you know, just heard sucking around
Speaker 1: it and he kind of like morphed in the really produce.
Speaker 1: But you really wasn't put that was more behind the
Speaker 1: scenes right that you probably you probably wouldn't know unless
Speaker 1: you read in the credits or something. That's when you know.
Speaker 1: So he got it. He actually has a musical background
Speaker 1: and and this is why I like if you listened
Speaker 1: to like his albums versus my albums, it's it's album solo.
Speaker 1: Ship is way better than my ship production. No, yes,
Speaker 1: you just wanted to fight. You didn't want to make
Speaker 1: no fucking records. You wanted to squabble. I didn't want
Speaker 1: to squad ship. I didn't want a squad. I was
Speaker 1: just trying to teach people, giving people information. He navigate
Speaker 1: this crazy really would make an album to get ready
Speaker 1: to go on to us so we can go out
Speaker 1: and fight. That's a lie to go out and fight.
Speaker 1: Did you see how to fight? Because that lie rolled
Speaker 1: off his tongue like people who support systemic races. It
Speaker 1: just right. I don't even like he wasn't trying to
Speaker 1: fight boyshit man. Okay, so I can count at least
Speaker 1: five fights we had on tour when when when we
Speaker 1: was on tour Public Enemy Wait, hold on wait it
Speaker 1: Willie started all of them? Was it William wasn't then? No? No, no, no,
Speaker 1: I never had to drink to get Yeah, who was
Speaker 1: really fight with? Just whoever? Then wanted to fight? The man?
Speaker 1: Beat up the sound man will be the sound kicked them,
Speaker 1: sucking the head for touching his feet on stage. Listen.
Speaker 1: I was just defending myself. The colder ship I ever
Speaker 1: seen cold, the cold sh that I ever seen. We
Speaker 1: was in baton rouge, riding around and then somebody's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: let me out, man, let me out, Let me out. Man.
Speaker 1: Mofucker was making an attempt to get out the limosine
Speaker 1: and really kicked them in the ass out the limosine.
Speaker 1: Comment really thinking of some ship out, He's not thinking
Speaker 1: about ship because you go ahead way out. We couldn't
Speaker 1: even stop. Good. Hey, you know when you see somebody
Speaker 1: man working, they try to clean the ship and be like, well,
Speaker 1: the thing the thing is is that this all of
Speaker 1: this ship is allegedly man, we would we would be
Speaker 1: coming home from from from the show, right and it's
Speaker 1: so funning bad. But me and Bill didn't give a fuck.
Speaker 1: We had bitches in the limo even read too. We
Speaker 1: had bitches in the limo, man, and then we'll they
Speaker 1: be like, no, man, they can't ride in here. Who
Speaker 1: was Willy was like trying to keep it professional, keep
Speaker 1: these guys to get caught professional. Listen. We had bitches, really, man,
Speaker 1: these dudes man, if you let them go too far
Speaker 1: Bro to far basically take it, They're gonna take it
Speaker 1: to It was the big brother cock block limousine bully
Speaker 1: riding here so here coming out of the show, y'all
Speaker 1: got all these women that he was like, they're getting
Speaker 1: limousine bully. It's the thing, man, got to the point
Speaker 1: where we wouldn't bring no listen. I never had a
Speaker 1: problem with girls hopping into the limousine as long as
Speaker 1: that they were pretty and that was and it was spacious.
Speaker 1: Oh so you don't want to say, you know something
Speaker 1: sometimes with monkey mountains at times challenges. But this is
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Whatever, this is what I'm saying, Nick Man,
Speaker 1: I'm not riding nowhere uncomfortable. I'm I'm fucking we We
Speaker 1: were in a limousine, man, We're supposed to be comfortable.
Speaker 1: We're not supposed to have a whole damn club inside
Speaker 1: the limousine, people all hanging all on the floor and
Speaker 1: and and all the mage him having the same conversation
Speaker 1: with a United Airlines gate check lady in Mississippi. I
Speaker 1: think that get check lady would be appreciative. No, Willy,
Speaker 1: we got into some ship. No, no, yeah, no, we
Speaker 1: got into some ship. You got out of some ship.
Speaker 1: You started the ship and got out of it. No,
Speaker 1: this dude, we were we were in Jackson, Jacksonville, not Jacksonville.
Speaker 1: We were in Jackson, Mississippi. This dude walks up to
Speaker 1: the kind of we we had just did a show.
Speaker 1: He walks up to the counter and he and Bill
Speaker 1: are cracking jokes about the plane going down? Oh ship?
Speaker 1: So the uh, the the what do they call those people? Who?
Speaker 1: But but this is we're talking we're talking ninety one right,
Speaker 1: so still on the planes, and we were working around
Speaker 1: the whoever the people yours is who take the ticket people?
Speaker 1: So they were like, it's a white dude. It was
Speaker 1: a white dude, and and and a white lady. But
Speaker 1: the white dude, he had that attitude. He's like, um,
Speaker 1: y'are not gonna be able to fly to that because
Speaker 1: he said, what's going because you don't make jokes about
Speaker 1: something like that, You don't make jokes about plane going down.
Speaker 1: So this dude start made the fucking gem him and
Speaker 1: bid joking about and and look and right as they're
Speaker 1: saying we're not gonna be able to talk and they're
Speaker 1: doing a little ship, he take off and go who
Speaker 1: who is that you left with him and breed him
Speaker 1: and mc breath they take off, they go jump on
Speaker 1: a whole nothing and jump on the plane and that goal.
Speaker 1: We have to spend the night in Jackson because because
Speaker 1: of something that he did. This dude can be at
Speaker 1: times very inconsiderate of others, and so this is what
Speaker 1: happened to us. We had to pay for his mistake. This,
Speaker 1: this is what happens. I'm gonna say this. Don't say that,
Speaker 1: don't say ship yeah, yes, man, don't let don't let
Speaker 1: them leave here believing no ships like that will. So
Speaker 1: you didn't make no joke. I don't want to rewrite history, bro.
Speaker 1: You don't make new jokes with Bill. I ain't sunk
Speaker 1: with Bill like that. It wasn't nothing funny about Bill.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I think you wouldn't even now I
Speaker 1: think I was. I'm believing I'm believing him. I will
Speaker 1: say this, I will say this, will your your escape
Speaker 1: game is alleged how you escape going on to a
Speaker 1: fighting and reverse this ship to him. You're a legend
Speaker 1: reversal games. I'm just saying, like, like the ship you
Speaker 1: did on the plane, you probably got blocked the funk
Speaker 1: up these days like that ship was crazy. You don't
Speaker 1: had to make new jokes. And Bill and we got
Speaker 1: kicked off stage in Dayton, Ohio, right bigg as stage man.
Speaker 1: A whole lot of people in the first show, the
Speaker 1: first the first big show. I'm you know, I ain't
Speaker 1: never seen a whole bunch of people like this before. Yo,
Speaker 1: and and and Willis. Did you spike the mic or
Speaker 1: did I spiked the mic? Bill spiked? Bill spiked the mic?
Speaker 1: And this white guy ran up on stage? Was spi
Speaker 1: the mike because young kids don't know Super Bowl touchdown?
Speaker 1: And white boy ran out there. Willie d gave him
Speaker 1: a ding ding wings and fries. You said he was
Speaker 1: ready to fight ding ding? What is it? Wally shaking? Fried?
Speaker 1: What is it? Ding ding? Fries and shake? That's what
Speaker 1: you used to call your knockout sticking anybody what anybody?
Speaker 1: But I would not like, I would not advise that
Speaker 1: to our up and coming artists out that because we
Speaker 1: had to give all that money back. No, we worked
Speaker 1: for free that night. Remember we tore up the equipment
Speaker 1: that ship that was a band, equipment and stuffing on
Speaker 1: the stage so so out out of the knockout. Y'all
Speaker 1: just start smashing ship no reason, not not really but
Speaker 1: Bill turn into just tean up everything thro TVs and
Speaker 1: we go. We go backstage. We go backstage after it
Speaker 1: was over, we go. Well, first of all, it was
Speaker 1: it was Troops manager who ran out on stage. See
Speaker 1: this is this is what happened. Troops manager, I wanted
Speaker 1: to us to end our show early. They would have headliners,
Speaker 1: but we sold the tickets we would have wanted everybody
Speaker 1: was coming to see like because then it was Troop
Speaker 1: after seven and somebody else. Right, it was an R
Speaker 1: and B show at and they tried. They couldn't sell
Speaker 1: the tickets. They couldn't move tickets. It was like two
Speaker 1: weeks before the show and they had only sold like
Speaker 1: a couple of hundred tickets. They put us on that
Speaker 1: and sell out. So now we know that people are
Speaker 1: that the majority of people are there to see us.
Speaker 1: So what happens is okay, tell the study I don't
Speaker 1: know your grass up, damn. So so we were on
Speaker 1: the stage and the dude, our manager, tell us we
Speaker 1: gotta wrap it up and were like, we want to perform,
Speaker 1: like we were only done twenty minutes. We got five
Speaker 1: minute show. So we want to perform for these these
Speaker 1: people who came to see us, like fun that we
Speaker 1: ain't gonna So Bill say, yeah, they want us to
Speaker 1: end the show right now. Funk that way. Ain't none
Speaker 1: of us holes. So the dude, that's when the dude
Speaker 1: cut the mic off. Well, first he cut the lights off,
Speaker 1: then he cut the mic off. When he cut the
Speaker 1: mic off, Bill slammed the mic. The sound man come
Speaker 1: running out there, slip him. Then troops, manager come run
Speaker 1: out there. Harry Dan Dan you know, yeah, got him
Speaker 1: real good. Uh So, now we start tying up the
Speaker 1: equipment on the stage. The crowd, the drum and the crowd,
Speaker 1: and the crowd don't the crowd, don't do it. Don't
Speaker 1: don't help the situation. They're like, oh yeah, because the
Speaker 1: crowd already met him. We gotta in the show earlier.
Speaker 1: So they're really mad, and they're all the way on
Speaker 1: our side, and and and and it's it's like pandemonium.
Speaker 1: And out of all of these people, out of all
Speaker 1: these people, like going crazy and stuff, all these noises
Speaker 1: being made, I can hear some some some girls up
Speaker 1: in the front, like this girl up in the front screen. Oh,
Speaker 1: they get o bards for real. So we go to
Speaker 1: the backstage. We go, we go to the dressing room.
Speaker 1: We get to the dressing room. We walk in our
Speaker 1: dressing room. All the glass it's broken, you remember that part.
Speaker 1: And the grass is broken, and I dressing room broken
Speaker 1: and I dressing is in the damn dressing room, pacing
Speaker 1: he all the motherfuck mirrors and I dressing room. So
Speaker 1: next thing you know, they got these big old Berlin
Speaker 1: six foot five white boards, these big old ass fifteen
Speaker 1: gallon hats on, and they're talking to our manager chief
Speaker 1: and they're telling him, we gotta pay for all this
Speaker 1: ship and we're going to jail. Fuck. So we had
Speaker 1: to give all that money back to go home. How
Speaker 1: much was we doing shows for back then, I don't
Speaker 1: I don't know, but whatever it was, we had to
Speaker 1: give it all back, you know. So that that that
Speaker 1: taught us a lessons so far y'all out there, man, man,
Speaker 1: you know, don't don't get the money back. Don't give
Speaker 1: the money back, man. And also and also respect respect seniority,
Speaker 1: respect uh, respect protocol. You know, like we were not
Speaker 1: the headliners and we didn't respect the headlines. You gotta
Speaker 1: respect if you're on the undercard. You gotta respect the
Speaker 1: head I don't give a damn how good you think
Speaker 1: you are. Get board. The headline is running so and
Speaker 1: we didn't respect it. We was like relly, just like
Speaker 1: wild and wrong. You still don't respect the head Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's our ship. No no, no, that's a lot. I
Speaker 1: respect everybody, man, But unless you know, because well you know,
Speaker 1: unless they do something like that dope ship. They need
Speaker 1: to sell that ding ding fries and shake. You got
Speaker 1: two of hamburger and some two fries and a shake.
Speaker 1: But food so good at a knock yout hold on right,
Speaker 1: I'm telling you write that ship down. You're so good.
Speaker 1: It's like Bill had us hostage bro on tour, because
Speaker 1: we'll be trying to make Bill like the surprise that
Speaker 1: he is, and Bill will be out there in the crowd,
Speaker 1: sitting in the seat with the people, like just waiting
Speaker 1: on us to come on. Before we even get to
Speaker 1: the arena, Bill is already at the damn arena inside
Speaker 1: of the crowd, funked up trunk always. Yeah he shuck Bill,
Speaker 1: he was. He was the epitome of the word rock star.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, he throw fuck TVs out the fucking hotel
Speaker 1: in crashing rooms and cut the mattresses up. It was crazy.
Speaker 1: He was a motherfucker man. What's what's the biggest difference
Speaker 1: between what where you guys are now in your careers
Speaker 1: and where you were just about maybe two years ago
Speaker 1: before you guys got thirty dollar podcast what happened? What
Speaker 1: happened was for me right now, I don't even out
Speaker 1: of penitentiary for it for four and a half years. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so but it's a short time to gain the success
Speaker 1: that he's had. What it was is me and because
Speaker 1: because always was doing million, I was with a game,
Speaker 1: so it was something that he was doing on Instagram like,
Speaker 1: but we expanded and it was like what changes that
Speaker 1: we were still the same thing, but it's just more
Speaker 1: opportunities and you understand platforms more like what y'all have.
Speaker 1: It's not a podcasts a show. And I think Titling
Speaker 1: you understand titlanly. You start to understand more ship, you
Speaker 1: understand brands, You understand like some people might be watching this,
Speaker 1: they understand why this ain't got no label on there.
Speaker 1: They're not paying you. So it's just so much more
Speaker 1: game that we got in the business side. And uh,
Speaker 1: and just it tightened us up outside of you know, money,
Speaker 1: that's cool, But it's about information is king in this game,
Speaker 1: especially this game right here, when he's cut on information
Speaker 1: and understand and stuff, because it's stuff that I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you after this that a lot of these structural
Speaker 1: companies ain't gonna tell you because they don't want you
Speaker 1: to know, because if you don't know, you don't know
Speaker 1: your value. But I learned about value, like me, and
Speaker 1: we talked about this all. We learned about value. We
Speaker 1: know how much we're worth. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: If if you know, if I come to y'all and say, listen, man,
Speaker 1: I want to get y'all ten million dollars, that mean
Speaker 1: I'm I can make a hunt it, I can make
Speaker 1: fifty off you. So it's a valuation game. Is about
Speaker 1: understanding the different chains of marketing. Understanding what could sit
Speaker 1: on this table and you know, understand that somebody could
Speaker 1: put something on this table and get your half a
Speaker 1: million dollars for a couple of episodes. Is understanding business.
Speaker 1: That was the strongest thing that I understand, especially with
Speaker 1: us owning our ship, we understand ownership and partnership. A
Speaker 1: lot of people think that, uh, you know, if this,
Speaker 1: if this bottle was, oh, I gotta give us to
Speaker 1: them for me to come up. No, I I got,
Speaker 1: I got you know, I got license thirty percent to you.
Speaker 1: But license don't mean own ship. It just means that
Speaker 1: the license, you know, you know what I mean, but
Speaker 1: our own percent of my ship. But we're gonna license
Speaker 1: y'all can do this and do that, and we're gonna
Speaker 1: bring some bread down. So what will really changed is
Speaker 1: that information and understanding and talking to people that's in
Speaker 1: different fields to understand value, to understand other avenues to
Speaker 1: this ship. This right here, this want some real ship
Speaker 1: millioniars for the game. To us, this is our baby.
Speaker 1: But for what we got to store this ship is
Speaker 1: practice like we were on another level like and we're
Speaker 1: gonna change the game for those who's gonna come behind
Speaker 1: us about ownership and leveling up on levels. That's fucking
Speaker 1: unimaginable from just us saying cause, come on, let's start
Speaker 1: this thing and just shooting ship and just putting it
Speaker 1: out there, and you're putting it out there to the
Speaker 1: world for them to know understanding these different people. People
Speaker 1: deal with information different Some people like to listen to it.
Speaker 1: Some people like to see it, but we understood that,
Speaker 1: you know, especially people from our culture. We first listen
Speaker 1: with our eyes, then we listened with our ears. See
Speaker 1: this is this is the ears right, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. So so more people are gonna probably look
Speaker 1: at your on YouTube than they're gonna listen to you
Speaker 1: on Apple because they want to see your facial expression.
Speaker 1: They want to see what you say. Yeah, motherfucking Brad
Speaker 1: cuts to people out. He said, well, what are you're lying?
Speaker 1: It's a different thing. Everything is about the visual. Visual
Speaker 1: is more powerful than audio. So as understanding that placement,
Speaker 1: brand placement is about partnerships, ownership. That's all this ship
Speaker 1: is about. And that's the ship that we sit back
Speaker 1: and we just went. We studied and we talked about
Speaker 1: and that makes us strong and man, make us understand
Speaker 1: the game more. And you know, when the motherfucker called,
Speaker 1: you would say, yeah, we want you to do this,
Speaker 1: we want you to do that. Yeah we got a
Speaker 1: hundred thousand for you just that third and you hang
Speaker 1: up and they called back. Damn, something happened to know
Speaker 1: we hang up? Do disrespect us like that? Ain't no
Speaker 1: sucking money? Fun is mad with you Oh no, how
Speaker 1: do they mean to disrespect you? Are We're gonna all right,
Speaker 1: we're gonna get back with you. Yeah. And then they
Speaker 1: get back and now they're talking some stupid ship. They're
Speaker 1: talking some real because they know, like, oh, they know
Speaker 1: they're black folks. And now see a lot of black
Speaker 1: folks don't know. I'm gonna tell you something, drop some
Speaker 1: strong shot on you, and I want you to hold
Speaker 1: this on the little in the viewers. I want you
Speaker 1: to hold this on black people. We can trove cool,
Speaker 1: but we don't own it control cool. We can troll cool,
Speaker 1: but we own it. But but but the system know
Speaker 1: how to monetize it. Like if you look at music, right,
Speaker 1: look at music, look at it. You know, we're selling
Speaker 1: the most music, but most of them executives, they don't
Speaker 1: look like us, you know what I'm saying. So it's
Speaker 1: understanding ownership, you know. I mean when you look at
Speaker 1: Tyler Perio, when you look at certain people and when
Speaker 1: they talk ownership that should be real. A lot of
Speaker 1: people look at them like, oh, they're just tripping because
Speaker 1: the motherfucking you a motherfucker' Sai man Hecko ten million hours.
Speaker 1: But you could have made that time yourself and you
Speaker 1: could have still owned your ship. But I think a
Speaker 1: lot of times we don't know that. And and taxes
Speaker 1: is important to we tax attorneys. We make sure that
Speaker 1: because it's like, at the end of the day, it's
Speaker 1: like we control cool. If you go back to the
Speaker 1: beginning of time, if you look at James Brown, you
Speaker 1: look at a little rich you look at all all
Speaker 1: our people. We always control cool. From the beginning of
Speaker 1: time all the way up to now. We control it,
Speaker 1: but we don't own it. When is we gonna put
Speaker 1: ownership on our coop? You know what I mean? That
Speaker 1: thing that walk willie when you just walk, it's natural.
Speaker 1: You ain't trying, it's just naturally cool. The way you're
Speaker 1: gonna respond to motherfucker is naturally cool. We control cool,
Speaker 1: We created cool. The idea of cool would come from
Speaker 1: us and got out and the and the reality of
Speaker 1: it is is is every other race emulates the black race.
Speaker 1: You know, we could pull up a it's not a
Speaker 1: bad thing. We can pull up a bunch of videos
Speaker 1: right now where's two white boys fighting and they call
Speaker 1: on each other niggers, nigger what you want. We can't
Speaker 1: pull up no video with two black men fighting and
Speaker 1: they call on each other crackers. Well, we just had
Speaker 1: that conversation with with with with with mark Uh Margot Norman.
Speaker 1: We had a conversation with him and he like this.
Speaker 1: This is something that he brought up first to people
Speaker 1: acknowledge that people know where time it is. It ain't
Speaker 1: no denying it, Um Wallow. When when you got out
Speaker 1: of jail, you literally hit the ground running. You started
Speaker 1: watching those videos. You took the Instagram immediately, you started
Speaker 1: making those videos and you run towards the camera. Yo,
Speaker 1: something's let me tell you. And you just started just
Speaker 1: dropping game, telling people what's going on. Now. When people
Speaker 1: hear you talk post uh incarceration, they hear you talk,
Speaker 1: not even like right now, they hear you how you talking.
Speaker 1: People said, man, this guy here is sharp, he's smart.
Speaker 1: It makes one wonder how did somebody that's sharp get
Speaker 1: caught up in the first place, Because it was like this, Well,
Speaker 1: and the ghetto attention is God acceptances God. And I
Speaker 1: was worshiping God coming up in the ghetto, and you
Speaker 1: know in my neighborhood when I see them dude pull
Speaker 1: up with the rope chain on with the bens. He
Speaker 1: had the Gouci's on and all that ship. I've seen
Speaker 1: that the wood. The women respect to him more than
Speaker 1: the dude that was walking home from work with a
Speaker 1: motherfucking a plumber belt on or you know, his work
Speaker 1: shoes on. He was a square. So I had o
Speaker 1: g s that was getting money in the streets, my grandmother,
Speaker 1: and there's people my family telling me to do right,
Speaker 1: but they was outnumbered. So I came up. I came
Speaker 1: up in the streets of Philadelphia, and and I became
Speaker 1: married to the streets of Philadelphia because I wanted to
Speaker 1: be down will It wasn't that it wasn't that I
Speaker 1: ain't I ain't had no no mine. It's just that
Speaker 1: my mind ain't belonged to me. It belonged to the
Speaker 1: idea of people looking at me and accept of me.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So I jumped in the
Speaker 1: street game. The first time I got locked up, I
Speaker 1: was eleven. Uh. I went on to keep being locked up.
Speaker 1: Spent five years in the juvenile facility, and I spent
Speaker 1: twenty years in prison. I spent more time. I spent
Speaker 1: more time on this earth incarcerated than I did free.
Speaker 1: So when you see me now and I'm living out
Speaker 1: my life. Um, when I was in jail, I woke
Speaker 1: up and I realized why I was there, and what
Speaker 1: was the switch. The switch was understanding that I was
Speaker 1: in there. I was. I was in jail for living
Speaker 1: a lie. And the lie was that I was somebody
Speaker 1: that I'm not. And the reason I say that I'm
Speaker 1: somebody that I'm not because I ain't gonna hold you
Speaker 1: a lot of times when I was in the street
Speaker 1: and I was growing up, and I did something on
Speaker 1: me and the homies did something on me, and cause
Speaker 1: did something, I'll laid on and be like I never
Speaker 1: forget man, me and me and me and cause we
Speaker 1: we we went statue limitation ran out was on me
Speaker 1: and it ain't that type of shape that but you know,
Speaker 1: we did a stick at one time. Come to find
Speaker 1: out the motherfucker was a cop. Who fuck we get
Speaker 1: in the car. I'm bitching. I'm like, yo, ship that
Speaker 1: was a cop. Oh man, we gotta give him a
Speaker 1: ship back. But that consciousness right there, I always had it.
Speaker 1: Every time I've done something. Sometimes I will always question
Speaker 1: what I've done. So I had it there. But when
Speaker 1: I hit the penitention, I'm like, yo, man for that. No,
Speaker 1: I ain't going to jail for that. It's cool whatever.
Speaker 1: But that was thirty years ago. I don't even have
Speaker 1: a statue limitation. But but but but what I'm saying
Speaker 1: is I love it so so whatever the case may be,
Speaker 1: I ain't you know, I'm just being so whatever the
Speaker 1: keep being scary man, whatever the case may be. But listen, well,
Speaker 1: whatever the case may be. It was like I evolved
Speaker 1: when I was in prison because I let that Nike
Speaker 1: it up face face on point though because we didn't
Speaker 1: we didn't have to do that with ship that was current.
Speaker 1: But like I evolved and I realized, like, yo, this
Speaker 1: is some goofy ship, Willie. I'm sitting the cell day
Speaker 1: after day with another man. Want the time for me
Speaker 1: to take a ship. I gotta put a sheet up.
Speaker 1: He might be and he gotta smell my ship. I
Speaker 1: gotta smell a ship. The White Bull Guard to live
Speaker 1: in the middle of America. We listen, were building whole industries,
Speaker 1: were building whole towns. All prisons is in a small
Speaker 1: town in America. When they build a new prison, they
Speaker 1: building a small town in America and they build it up.
Speaker 1: The prison, come the walmart, come. They built the whole
Speaker 1: town up, all the homies, all the homies across the
Speaker 1: country that go to the penitentiary and and it's one
Speaker 1: of the real ship that happened to me. I realized
Speaker 1: that And one of the the craziest moments when I
Speaker 1: was in prisons, when the guard told me he showed me.
Speaker 1: He showed me his uh, because I used to work
Speaker 1: with his guard. He just talks. I just talked. He
Speaker 1: ain't like me. He I'm walking past the bubble. He
Speaker 1: go inside of his shirt, you know, because they wear
Speaker 1: vessels inside the joint, like these staff vessels. And he
Speaker 1: pulled like an envelope out. He opened a picture up
Speaker 1: and it was him and it was his son, like
Speaker 1: a boat and a house standing right there. He was like, yeah, yeah, people,
Speaker 1: that's my last name. You're in the home. He's brought
Speaker 1: me that. And it was it was it was this
Speaker 1: truth that cut me so deep because it was so real.
Speaker 1: And when I went back at my cell hurt because
Speaker 1: I'm like me and the home he's never brought my
Speaker 1: mom's no cribs, we never do. Did he say that
Speaker 1: to encourage you in? He said that the dig at
Speaker 1: me me and the home. He's bought him that because
Speaker 1: when you listen, one thing about the institution, one thing
Speaker 1: about the justice system. I didn't seeing guards coming young,
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on. Eighteen years old, straight
Speaker 1: off a farm, coming there and go from regular guard, sergeant,
Speaker 1: lieutenant it, major, captain. I'm in Captain, major warden, and
Speaker 1: their son do it, and the brother do it, and
Speaker 1: the cousin do it, and my daughter did it, and
Speaker 1: they get to see and they get all these things
Speaker 1: based off of me and the home. He's put the
Speaker 1: work in the street and being real niggas on the streets.
Speaker 1: So by us being real niggers in the street catching
Speaker 1: these cases, we're giving them job security. Because as more
Speaker 1: of us keep coming, loading them beds upping themselves, they
Speaker 1: keep telling their cousin come on down to jail and
Speaker 1: get a job. Come on, dearn, Bobby, come down, really
Speaker 1: come down. They hold listen, I didn't been in the
Speaker 1: prisons where the whole household was there, the mom, the son,
Speaker 1: the dad, they all the mom working in the hospital,
Speaker 1: on the jail, the dad of sergeant, the lieutenant, the
Speaker 1: son of regular guard, of work in the gym. And
Speaker 1: guess what me let me break it down. And the eighties,
Speaker 1: I used to go to see my stepfather in prison,
Speaker 1: Me and my brother rest in peace and my brother
Speaker 1: Steve rest in peace and my stepfather. And it's a
Speaker 1: picture I got and I used to be happy every
Speaker 1: week to go see any time. My mom taking up,
Speaker 1: make the food, go see my stepa. His name Hip,
Speaker 1: what's phillis Steven Market? His name is Hip? And um
Speaker 1: rust and peace, Willie? Do you know? And this in
Speaker 1: the eighties, do you know? In me and my step
Speaker 1: paps were sealmates in the same prison. I want to
Speaker 1: go see him at do you know? In two thousand
Speaker 1: and five, me and my brother was sealmmates in the
Speaker 1: same prison. We used to go to see my dad
Speaker 1: at my stepdad at generational incarceration at the same time.
Speaker 1: On the other side, you got the guards. So it's
Speaker 1: like it's deep. But that ship wake you up and
Speaker 1: you went and you're like, man, I got more. So
Speaker 1: when I'm out here and I'm talking to cats and
Speaker 1: I'm telling him it costs too much to be a criminal.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get I'm giving you ship off a
Speaker 1: real life. Don't wait till it's too late. I'm telling
Speaker 1: dudes based off like yo, act yourself, what did you
Speaker 1: really doing? Like we ride for an idea of something
Speaker 1: that don't exist no more. And let's a young boy
Speaker 1: told me some ship and it was real. I was
Speaker 1: in prisoning me and somebody older cats. He was telling
Speaker 1: on somebody will so he come back from court. Were
Speaker 1: in the holding sales. He telling the motherfucker you know
Speaker 1: young boys like yo young and right there in the
Speaker 1: last seal, he raping that motherfucker going. He just went
Speaker 1: down the court telling somebody with his ah. So me
Speaker 1: and another old cat, older cat named Jeff Gains. He
Speaker 1: was named brand dude in the streets of Philly box
Speaker 1: all that we had. We hollered through the game young
Speaker 1: and come to the gate man, we gotta high light you.
Speaker 1: He said, what was y'all want? Old is what's up?
Speaker 1: What y'all want to talk about? He said, damn, man,
Speaker 1: we heard you telling somebody. That's what he said us.
Speaker 1: This motherfucker was a different type of rat. He's saying,
Speaker 1: Oh the old is right, So y'all know the mind
Speaker 1: y'all business? What the fun y'all calling me for? He said, damn,
Speaker 1: you know we're going down there. You're doing something you
Speaker 1: ain't supposed to be doing. He said, listen, no heads,
Speaker 1: I understand y'all been in prison for a while, but
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let y'all know, because y'all know what's going
Speaker 1: on out there. Y'all old niggas playing by some rules
Speaker 1: in the book that nobody reading on. We said that ship.
Speaker 1: He backed me up. He was like younger was about.
Speaker 1: He couldn't have been no more than twenty. He backed
Speaker 1: him off the gate. I get off the gate. I
Speaker 1: go lay him up bed, I said, Jeff, back up
Speaker 1: off the gate because I told my old head, Jeff,
Speaker 1: there was another I said, back up, because he educated
Speaker 1: me on the reality of life as it is right now.
Speaker 1: And I can't say this for everybody, but to note
Speaker 1: that that idea is out there, that that mindset is
Speaker 1: out there. And I already was had my mind made
Speaker 1: up anyway. I ain't going home to do nothing, but
Speaker 1: it's just like wow. So I'm trying to tell these
Speaker 1: young cats when I'm doing my post, I'm like, yo, man,
Speaker 1: it costs too much to be a criminal, because ain't
Speaker 1: nothing gonna be more painful than when you hear your
Speaker 1: mom crying behind you. When you're in that courtroom and
Speaker 1: you're sitting in there, you're Laurier right here. You're public
Speaker 1: defending because a lot of dudes they't got no money.
Speaker 1: You're sitting right here with your public defender. You're sitting
Speaker 1: right here, your mom and your sisters and all them
Speaker 1: in backing you in the courtroom. And when that motherfucker, no,
Speaker 1: when that motherfucker walked up on that stand and the
Speaker 1: d A saying yeah, excuse me, how do you know
Speaker 1: Mr Willie d How do you know Mr Willie Davis?
Speaker 1: And do you know him? Yeah? I know him? How
Speaker 1: long have you know him? Oh? His mom used to
Speaker 1: babysit me. And your mom started crying in the back
Speaker 1: because your childhood friend telling me you because he realized
Speaker 1: he wasn't really the real naked that he said he
Speaker 1: was Instagram. That's when life. So my thing be like,
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to tell dudes, yo, get the funk out,
Speaker 1: go switch the ship up, because it's real. Well, I
Speaker 1: ain't trying to, you know, I'm just telling dudes like, yo, man,
Speaker 1: I live that ship. It wasn't worth it. Spent my
Speaker 1: whole life in jail. I'm just trying to get your
Speaker 1: information based off a lived experience. I ain't know, motherfucking square,
Speaker 1: telling you don't do this, don't do that. I'm telling
Speaker 1: you like this, and man, that ship hurt when you're
Speaker 1: in the penitentiary day after day after day and your
Speaker 1: body start hurting me and you start getting weak inside
Speaker 1: based off of you just want to go home grown
Speaker 1: man or not. You're like, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: hug my mom. I wanna hug my grandmama. I want
Speaker 1: to see my kids, and you can't. It's a whole different,
Speaker 1: you know. The code part is like when you are
Speaker 1: in the streets and hustling, a lot of times you rationalize,
Speaker 1: I'm doing this for my kids. I'm doing this, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm doing this for my girl. I'm doing this for
Speaker 1: my mom to get my mom a new house, you know,
Speaker 1: get out of or whatever. And you know when you
Speaker 1: get jammed up, and you will get jammed up. When
Speaker 1: you get jammed up, usually you know you can hardly
Speaker 1: afford a lawyer when they do get you, because even
Speaker 1: if you got the money, a lot of times they're
Speaker 1: gonna freeze whatever money you already hadna take whatever you
Speaker 1: got and yeah, and anything you got stats in the crib.
Speaker 1: The people that you love the most are gonna run
Speaker 1: through your money. This happened to me, that's so, I know.
Speaker 1: So they're gonna run through your money and you'll probably
Speaker 1: think about killing them, but you probably won't because it's
Speaker 1: like your mother and your brother sill. So yeah so
Speaker 1: so uh but all of this money, everything that you do, uh,
Speaker 1: you end up losing everything once you go in. And
Speaker 1: then what happens is that whatever you did is now
Speaker 1: exacerbated by the fact that you got a criminal record now.
Speaker 1: And so now even if when you get out, you're
Speaker 1: further behind than you were when you were just broken,
Speaker 1: didn't have a criminal record, now you this, this life
Speaker 1: of crime, didn't put you even further behind because nobody
Speaker 1: wants to hire you, nobody wants to deal with you,
Speaker 1: and people don't trust you. So also, are you really
Speaker 1: doing it? Are you doing it? Are you doing it
Speaker 1: for you? Are you really are you doing it for
Speaker 1: the kids, Because if you're doing it for the kids,
Speaker 1: the most important thing for your kids is presents, not presents,
Speaker 1: your presence, not presence. That is the absolute most important
Speaker 1: thing for a child. And so when you once you
Speaker 1: remove yourself from the house. Now the house is open,
Speaker 1: it's wide open to be raped and pillaged. You locked up,
Speaker 1: you can't do nothing about it. Some dudes coming through
Speaker 1: the house, and you know, after a while, if you
Speaker 1: stay long enough, he's gonna start looking at your kids.
Speaker 1: Your daughter might be but it might he might be
Speaker 1: looking at your son. And then when your son, now,
Speaker 1: your son has to become a man faster than what
Speaker 1: he's supposed to be because he's trying to feel your shoes,
Speaker 1: and thus the cycle repeats itself. That's what happened to
Speaker 1: while basically trying to feel the shoes of a man's
Speaker 1: doing something that another a man should have been doing,
Speaker 1: that was responsible for him, that bring him to this world.
Speaker 1: So so that it's it's a vicious cycle. And it's
Speaker 1: the moment that we understand that that we really get
Speaker 1: that it's a trap. And you know, nobody likes just
Speaker 1: like in a relationship, nobody likes to be made of
Speaker 1: a fool, fool of if you once you realize if
Speaker 1: you're in a relationship and somebody made you out of
Speaker 1: a fool, you don't want to be with that person.
Speaker 1: You don't want to deal with that person anymore. So,
Speaker 1: why do we allow this system that we know it's
Speaker 1: stacked against us, that we know is designed to make
Speaker 1: us out of a fool? Why do we allow the
Speaker 1: system to make us out of a fool? It's real,
Speaker 1: and you know it's like, uh, like me, well, a
Speaker 1: lot of my funers' understand they see me. I'm happy,
Speaker 1: ay because I'm happy to be out here. And a
Speaker 1: lot of my homies died. My brother got killed, he
Speaker 1: got shot, died in my grandma arms and the door
Speaker 1: step out of you know, the crib I was raised
Speaker 1: in um And it's like it's so much for me,
Speaker 1: and I'd be happy because I'm living. I'm out here
Speaker 1: living for his kids. That's the most gangster ship I
Speaker 1: can have ever done in my life. You know. I'm
Speaker 1: there for my brother's kid, him, there for my family.
Speaker 1: That's all that. That's gangster, you know. Uh. And it'd
Speaker 1: be like like like, I'm just trying to show motherfucker's
Speaker 1: really really real? Is who you are, not what you do?
Speaker 1: Really really it's just real. Is that if you want, motherfucker,
Speaker 1: you get a baby day. You work at Wendy's, you
Speaker 1: work at Bernie King you're doing you, you go home,
Speaker 1: you play the games, you kick it with whoever that's you,
Speaker 1: bro be. That ain't wrong with that. But but you know,
Speaker 1: as black people, we put so much priority and so
Speaker 1: much status on being a cool motherfucker, being lit, having
Speaker 1: cards so so so it'd be like we are our
Speaker 1: whole outlook a real. It's imagine the ship. Real got
Speaker 1: something to do with a real to us A lot
Speaker 1: of times Real got something to do with some criminal
Speaker 1: ship He real nigga getting money her real name. He
Speaker 1: shot Willie D last week. Real he shot a motherfucker.
Speaker 1: You get more praise for doing something to another motherfucking
Speaker 1: black people is than just doing yourself. You know what
Speaker 1: I don't get, man, I don't I don't get how
Speaker 1: people who kill people and I in our neighborhood is
Speaker 1: accepted back into the community. Like when you live in
Speaker 1: up and like I'll say specifically a white community predominant
Speaker 1: predominantly white community. If you take the life of some
Speaker 1: body that's in that neighborhood, your whole family got to
Speaker 1: get the funk out because it's it's two reasons were
Speaker 1: The main reason is that hey, man, just murder somebody
Speaker 1: where you murder somebody, and guess what happens. It makes
Speaker 1: the property value go to crime makes the property value
Speaker 1: go down. And murder is the worst crime you can commit.
Speaker 1: So they're like, get the funk out. You're bringing up.
Speaker 1: You're gonna make you devalue in my home and devalue
Speaker 1: my property. So they're gonna push your ass all the
Speaker 1: way out. But us, you know, in the hood, this
Speaker 1: person go out there and kill somebody in the neighborhood.
Speaker 1: And they come back, and we said, we call him,
Speaker 1: we give him a nickname, call them killer. We have
Speaker 1: a day we throw a damn barbecue for him or something,
Speaker 1: you know, after they don't kill somebody, and they have
Speaker 1: a barbecue and everybody people show up and everybody's celebrating,
Speaker 1: and you just you know, it's when you live a
Speaker 1: certain way and you condition to be a certain way.
Speaker 1: A lot of times, man, everything that's bad is viewed
Speaker 1: that's good, and everything good is viewed that's bad. It's
Speaker 1: speaking of the good and the bad. You oftentimes will
Speaker 1: give advice to a lot of young men who want
Speaker 1: that advice about women. Where where did you get in
Speaker 1: your game? First of all, your game be like ice
Speaker 1: cold on point I realized, But where where does that
Speaker 1: come from? Man? That like, did you did you have
Speaker 1: an O G that you looked up to? They passed
Speaker 1: the game down to you as this back. You know,
Speaker 1: I think I'd like to say we was the last
Speaker 1: ever that came from They had old heads, you know,
Speaker 1: that respected our old heads. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: For me, I'm from Ariab, North Philly. We always was
Speaker 1: like you know, some slick talking mom. That's just like
Speaker 1: our neighborhood, you know what I'm saying. But but for us,
Speaker 1: it was it was just more just experience. I've seen
Speaker 1: a lot of ship. I've been through a lot of ship.
Speaker 1: I've done a lot of ships, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So for me, it's like, if I don't get eat
Speaker 1: the youth some type of game, some type and what
Speaker 1: we call game is god. It's attention, motivation and education.
Speaker 1: If I don't, if I don't bless him, I don't
Speaker 1: give him some some type of game, some type of knowledge.
Speaker 1: You know, I might just trigger one person, two people,
Speaker 1: three people. You know, That's all that mattered to me.
Speaker 1: We was in the mall yesterday. It's funny you said
Speaker 1: we was in the mall yesterday. Man, and this kid
Speaker 1: from New Orleans that live in Houston now seeing us. Man,
Speaker 1: this young and was probably about two years old, started crying,
Speaker 1: y'all niggas like, father figures to me, man, and you
Speaker 1: can tell that this kid is really from the mud,
Speaker 1: like literally this maybe bonds and was with his woman.
Speaker 1: It was like, hold on, Mitch, wait, nigga, who do
Speaker 1: but he's seen this and he like, man, y'a don't understand.
Speaker 1: I live by the ship. Y'all be saying, man like
Speaker 1: I ain't handle father, like I ain't handle mall figures
Speaker 1: that and just started crying right there in to morrow.
Speaker 1: So it'd be things like that that happened that I'd
Speaker 1: be like, that's guy way of telling us what y'all
Speaker 1: niggas is doing his work. Keep giving that ship to him,
Speaker 1: you know, absolutely, man, And we want to thank y'all
Speaker 1: for that guy. That's attention, motivation and education. I ain't
Speaker 1: got to tell y'all to keep doing it because I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't have to tell you to start doing So
Speaker 1: we love y'all, man, We appreciate you. App check y'all. Man,
Speaker 1: y'all you guys, you know definitely an inspiration man, keep
Speaker 1: going doing that. I would be remissing not speak on
Speaker 1: this trade A. This is the reason why you guys
Speaker 1: out there, that's that's what the teacher man a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff, the community kids. He yeah, we had to
Speaker 1: be here. And I want to say this to y'all.
Speaker 1: I want to get you all your flowers. I always
Speaker 1: get o gs and hip Hop the flowers because and
Speaker 1: I always tell the young cats when we talked to him,
Speaker 1: like yo, yesterday is the reason today is able to
Speaker 1: make so much money. The opportunity, you know. And I
Speaker 1: tell them, I say, the money that y'all see in
Speaker 1: the week. Some of these cats ain't seeing a three
Speaker 1: or four year career. So you know, I'm just thankful
Speaker 1: that y'all was able to create something, to be a
Speaker 1: part of something that's so great that we have today
Speaker 1: where so many people is able to take care of
Speaker 1: their families. Because when I'm looking at I'm looking at
Speaker 1: the producer, the manager, the engineer, everybody is a part
Speaker 1: of this thing called hip hop. The promoter, uh, everybody,
Speaker 1: the agents, the booking agent, the pure This system is
Speaker 1: so strong, and it wasn't it strong back in the day.
Speaker 1: We didn't have all these departments and all these different
Speaker 1: people that could just getting filthy rich off it. But like,
Speaker 1: I appreciate your offer, just all your contributions to the
Speaker 1: hip hop and what we have today. You know, absolutely
Speaker 1: we appreciate you. Thank you man. It's like that, y'all right.
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