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Speaker 1: now deep throating. This is for the streets, the reel,

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Speaker 1: the railroading, the disenfranchise, the truth, the scapegoating. And they

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Speaker 1: because we wrote it. The North South East coat g

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Speaker 1: on code and me dancing for no buttament biscuits. It's

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Speaker 1: the ghetto boys. Reloaded, Reloaded with another episode of information

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Speaker 1: and instructions to help you navigate through this wild, crazy,

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Speaker 1: beautiful world. In the studio getting the kids, Will and

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Speaker 1: I was worth a game, Baby reloaded, Baby said the

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Speaker 1: game now feeling. Here's two million dollars game. It's going down,

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Speaker 1: powerhouses coming together. Yes, this is beautiful, man, it's good

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Speaker 1: to see it. We have right now. We had to

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Speaker 1: point in over return, Yeah, come in and uh. We

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Speaker 1: had the point of number cranking sh up he's so

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Speaker 1: no attention. Actually I really don't. Sleep. Y'all don't see

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Speaker 1: When I was in jail, when I was in jail, Letten, listen,

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Speaker 1: If you say something to somebody talking to you about something,

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna talk. I'm gonna related to him. I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about Wilder man sleep, I'm talking about when y'all

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Speaker 1: gambling playing basketball. You suck with him because a lot

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Speaker 1: of times he talked himself into them ass whippings, he

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Speaker 1: that dumb something like, Bro, I seen I've seen Gilly

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Speaker 1: hit a sixty ft and a goal about this day

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Speaker 1: on you dog. Yeah, he's been practicing. And then my

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Speaker 1: It's like it's you know, nig had more excuses than

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Speaker 1: surgery ship none unless absolute pleasure to have y'all y'all coming, Bro,

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Speaker 1: you know when the o gs come, you know, you know,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm a hip hop storian, so this is

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Speaker 1: always good for me, your contribution to hip hop. A

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Speaker 1: lot of young cats probably don't even know how powerful

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Speaker 1: y'a was. And how you know when I when I

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Speaker 1: when it wasn't. Poperless ship might on your door. When

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Speaker 1: y'all gotta understand. Uh. If y'all go back and y'all

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Speaker 1: I let Willie answer that question. He knew all in there,

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Speaker 1: Who's your label mate? Money? No, he was on Tony Draper.

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Speaker 1: Heaven No? So nothing? Uh Tony was Tony didn't rap? No, No,

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Speaker 1: Motherfucker's had me running from a nicker named Jay Prince. Man.

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Speaker 1: and ain't no cooker come out. Man, we can talk.

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Speaker 1: this sick and now like you got good crack cocaine,

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Speaker 1: there and that's when baby approached me, like so me

423
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 1: and we got with Drake, We did the business, and

424
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,880
Speaker 1: then I want from nil over the cash money. Yeah,

425
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 1: and that's how that happened. How didn end up with

426
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:25,639
Speaker 1: cash when I ain't sell no publishing? So you know

427
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 1: kind of know how that ended up. Man, I've heard

428
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,200
Speaker 1: a lot of your stuff, right and and and you

429
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 1: you cold blooded with the lyrics no ship like, man,

430
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:43,199
Speaker 1: do you ever like I wrote, I roached a lot

431
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 1: of this stuff out there. Man, I was I was

432
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 1: one of his writers. Man, how how do you how

433
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 1: do you how do you? How do you feel? How

434
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 1: do you feel about knowing we're not feeling but knowing

435
00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:00,040
Speaker 1: that you got what it? Texts and you want of

436
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 1: the top dude, that's you top spitter and not having

437
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 1: to get up that hit that peak. What everybody know

438
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 1: you for your music and not just some dude that

439
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 1: you know hopped on the internet and became known whatever. Whatever.

440
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 1: Understand I'm talking I'm talking about I'm talking universal. I'm

441
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,679
Speaker 1: talking about everywhere. I'm talking about where everybody know Gilly,

442
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:31,199
Speaker 1: that dude, Gilly the kid is that dude. I just

443
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:35,159
Speaker 1: want to like, there's no disrespect with but for you

444
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 1: to say some of the things you said, I don't

445
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 1: know if you was a little I don't know if

446
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 1: you had a drink. This dude was doing. He was

447
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 1: a boy, he was a board he was too doing

448
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 1: board tours. You're hyping. You're giving him a little too

449
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,199
Speaker 1: much any man, Like, No, you're giving him a lot,

450
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:56,119
Speaker 1: Like like you really I think much of talking about you.

451
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,879
Speaker 1: He did two tours. Bars abound the country, the neighbor

452
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 1: with bars. This motherfucker wasn't know. He's just playing the

453
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,160
Speaker 1: fucking arenas or amphitheaters. You're keeping them all this, You're

454
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:12,360
Speaker 1: like what you know? You know? In defense to your

455
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 1: conduct and defense defense in defense of your comments. Then

456
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 1: some of the greatest singers and entertainers and talented people

457
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 1: playing bars every night. No, no, but I'm Willie ride

458
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 1: with that ship, going on that ship. Your face back

459
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 1: down off that. She was like, yeah, he's bout right.

460
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 1: He ain't linking fighting. Man, Come on, why you keep

461
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 1: putting me in that ship? Say listen, face, you put

462
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 1: me in that ship here. A legend is a legend, man.

463
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 1: Don't get sucked up these dudes giving you votes and ship.

464
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,479
Speaker 1: I don't even like it felt like it felt like,

465
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,159
Speaker 1: you know, I knew what I was up against. So

466
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,399
Speaker 1: because you know, Jay tried to sign me when I

467
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,880
Speaker 1: when we turned that situation down because it wasn't right.

468
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I pretty much knew what

469
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:06,120
Speaker 1: I was up against. It was up with jay Z.

470
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,679
Speaker 1: It was sucked up. I mean, it wasn't right. You know.

471
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 1: When when I went to Tony Draper, you know, it

472
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:12,640
Speaker 1: was like what you want? I was like, I want

473
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:14,439
Speaker 1: half a million dollars. I want to hunt it up,

474
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,880
Speaker 1: I want to hunt it up front. I want fifteen points.

475
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 1: I want to bump a goal. I want bumping platinum

476
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,400
Speaker 1: drapers like I ain't never gave nobody to build Tony Draper.

477
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 1: He said, I never gave nobody talking about man because

478
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,639
Speaker 1: I was in every label talking or were you talking

479
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 1: about the fifth started fifteen and then to two? Yeah,

480
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 1: but I was a young I was getting what right,

481
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,719
Speaker 1: So you know, for me it was like, uh, you know,

482
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 1: Drake was like, I ain't never gave nobody. I said, okay, cool,

483
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 1: I funk with you, Drape, but I'm you know, I

484
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 1: gotta go back to Philly. He said, you know what,

485
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 1: you got that and then we did the business and

486
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 1: then you know, for whatever reason, I just feel like

487
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 1: now when I look at my life, I feel like

488
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 1: God never gave to me through all that bullshit to

489
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 1: get why I am right now? You feel what I'm saying.

490
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 1: And now while Matt, while I'm at right now, I'm

491
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: gonna kick their ass. I'm I'm gonna kick their ass

492
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 1: every day, you know, jay Z or what I'm saying,

493
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 1: because a lot of motherfucker's had me doing security at

494
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 1: Ross right now. You know what I'm saying. Point motherfucker's

495
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 1: to the uh the irregular polo t s and ship. Yeah,

496
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, do some type of U

497
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 1: segment of some type of where you go out and

498
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 1: work a regular job because you just wanted to let

499
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 1: people know that this could have been security at Ross.

500
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 1: Did you do what? Did you have? You ever worked

501
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 1: for Ross before? And let you do it? Don't work?

502
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 1: They let you do it. Yeah, working with my security

503
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 1: jacket on and anything, just to get the feeling of

504
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 1: what he would have been. I'm gonna do that. I

505
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 1: stay two hours. I'm gonna go do that because I

506
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: noticed where these niggers had me. Where you gonna work

507
00:29:54,800 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 1: at ain't that's just crazy. He's not gonna go to

508
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 1: he's doughnuts, doesn't get fat. No, I'm gonna say this.

509
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take it back to this my favorite song.

510
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 1: And jay Z is a good nigga man. He's a

511
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 1: good man for real. I don't think jay Z is

512
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 1: a good name. I think he's a good dude, a

513
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 1: good man, a man. I used to don't like that.

514
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 1: That's right, Willie. Now I'm gonna say this, you shut

515
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 1: Tyler faces. Oh that was just a cool record to me.

516
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 1: You know, that was just like I did that record.

517
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 1: I was I made the bet for the record and

518
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 1: too Short came in uh and um we we did

519
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 1: our part at the same time. It was me and

520
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 1: Short and Dad because Dad was in the studio. Yeah,

521
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 1: the whole time we would go to this must be

522
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 1: used to all the finest thing hip hop history. He

523
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 1: love it, Yes, I love it. Come on Rahem the

524
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 1: bench at Anti brote that hook? Yeah, damn, how did

525
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 1: you get right in the studio Devin to do the

526
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 1: hook in? Raheim is from what Philly or Chicago? I

527
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 1: think he's from Philadelphia? Maybe New Jersey? No, no, no,

528
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 1: he's not from New Jersey. He's from New Jersey. He

529
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 1: maybe e from Philly. I gotta ask one got checked

530
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 1: into that? Yeah, right is from Are you sure? How

531
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 1: long did it take them? Like that whole studio session

532
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: was was? I just no? He wasn't there, And I

533
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 1: think that here's a thing. Uh. J Prince was signing

534
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 1: Teeler to wrap a lot, so what better way to

535
00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 1: introduce him to He was leaving swaps, leave the swap,

536
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 1: come in to rapp alte, so James put him on faces.

537
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 1: At the end, it was just me, Short and Devon

538
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: m He talked that ship and then Tiva came in

539
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 1: at the end. Yeah, those beats you made it hot.

540
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 1: I mean this ship was crashed before you know, you know,

541
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 1: he don't. I'm gonna just say this because you listen,

542
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna fund man, Like because if you look

543
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 1: at the record, if you look at this, if you

544
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 1: look at the record right now, you must be used

545
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 1: to all the finding things and that's your weight to

546
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 1: buy with money. That's right now. It was straight money,

547
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 1: you dude going and taking a shopping I mean, you

548
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 1: see the whole people game he knocking like you've seen

549
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 1: the whole games come in a ship? Yeah yeah, it

550
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 1: was cool man. Yeah. But but a lot of a

551
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 1: lot of um, a lot of beats that I made

552
00:32:54,480 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 1: for that album, uh, transpired when people came in town

553
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: and wanted to do some music, you know, like okay,

554
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 1: put the headphones on. And first I was y and

555
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 1: like I was telling annoying them like I'm I'm probably

556
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 1: a way better producer than I am a fucking rapper,

557
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 1: Like for real, thinks I think it beats? All right? Yeah?

558
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: He will? You be on point, man, you know you're

559
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 1: you're fucking you know, like I feel like the beats

560
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 1: somebody else possibly could have done. But the lyrics, nah,

561
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 1: you're fucking lyrics. That's the ship. That's where you. That's

562
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 1: where you really get off at, you know. And I'm

563
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: gonna tell you, I think the fans agree with me

564
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 1: because they love the beats and ship. But when people

565
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 1: think of you, the reason why people are so dear

566
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 1: to you is because of how you make them feel

567
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: with your lyrics, the words that you say. That is

568
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 1: the ship that's so people on you. That ship was strong.

569
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 1: I know that I made the beat too, Willie. Where

570
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: they know now and they ain't they they're still not

571
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 1: like that, ain't no, no, no, no, Now they fucking

572
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 1: know that I did to be too, Willie. And they

573
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,439
Speaker 1: now that. Now they know that you did the beat

574
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 1: and ship and that's cool. Hold now he got there

575
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 1: because he needs to hear this ship. He got to

576
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 1: hear this. Now you got to hear this ship. Yeah, okay,

577
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 1: Now now that they know you made the beast right,

578
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: and still are they talking about you being right now

579
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:37,720
Speaker 1: lyricist or a top five producer. Get in your motherfucking lane,

580
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:44,840
Speaker 1: man and accept it. Your motherfucking beats all right, Prince.

581
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 1: Nobody nigging your music but yourself. Kids now the best.

582
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 1: Don't bear the motherfucker. But I can see what say

583
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,359
Speaker 1: like if I heard the beats and ship. If I

584
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,760
Speaker 1: just heard your beats and ship, I would say, Okay,

585
00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:59,959
Speaker 1: that's a dope producer, right, that's dope. It's dope's dope.

586
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: Will you well the motherfucking lyrics? Bro? Will you wrapped

587
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 1: on my ship? Man? Yeah? I did. You're like, yeah,

588
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,320
Speaker 1: that ship dumped in the motherfucker it is. But I

589
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 1: ain't motherfucking you know, I'm not top five alive on

590
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 1: the beat Ton. He never you wasn't putting it out

591
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 1: there that you was making the beats back then because

592
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 1: I never knew you was making the beats. Yeah, yeah, hell.

593
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 1: He always kind of had dibbling, dabbling and ship, even

594
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:26,839
Speaker 1: even with the ghetto boys. She pulled us some here,

595
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,280
Speaker 1: going that motherfucking do this. This is very very stages

596
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 1: when he before he really took off as a producer.

597
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 1: He's going that motherfucking you know, just heard sucking around

598
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 1: it and he kind of like morphed in the really produce.

599
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 1: But you really wasn't put that was more behind the

600
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 1: scenes right that you probably you probably wouldn't know unless

601
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 1: you read in the credits or something. That's when you know.

602
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 1: So he got it. He actually has a musical background

603
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 1: and and this is why I like if you listened

604
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 1: to like his albums versus my albums, it's it's album solo.

605
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 1: Ship is way better than my ship production. No, yes,

606
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 1: you just wanted to fight. You didn't want to make

607
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,879
Speaker 1: no fucking records. You wanted to squabble. I didn't want

608
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 1: to squad ship. I didn't want a squad. I was

609
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 1: just trying to teach people, giving people information. He navigate

610
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:12,399
Speaker 1: this crazy really would make an album to get ready

611
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 1: to go on to us so we can go out

612
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 1: and fight. That's a lie to go out and fight.

613
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 1: Did you see how to fight? Because that lie rolled

614
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:25,800
Speaker 1: off his tongue like people who support systemic races. It

615
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 1: just right. I don't even like he wasn't trying to

616
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:36,959
Speaker 1: fight boyshit man. Okay, so I can count at least

617
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 1: five fights we had on tour when when when we

618
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 1: was on tour Public Enemy Wait, hold on wait it

619
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 1: Willie started all of them? Was it William wasn't then? No? No, no, no,

620
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 1: I never had to drink to get Yeah, who was

621
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 1: really fight with? Just whoever? Then wanted to fight? The man?

622
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 1: Beat up the sound man will be the sound kicked them,

623
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 1: sucking the head for touching his feet on stage. Listen.

624
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 1: I was just defending myself. The colder ship I ever

625
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 1: seen cold, the cold sh that I ever seen. We

626
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 1: was in baton rouge, riding around and then somebody's like, yeah,

627
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 1: let me out, man, let me out, Let me out. Man.

628
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 1: Mofucker was making an attempt to get out the limosine

629
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 1: and really kicked them in the ass out the limosine.

630
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 1: Comment really thinking of some ship out, He's not thinking

631
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 1: about ship because you go ahead way out. We couldn't

632
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 1: even stop. Good. Hey, you know when you see somebody

633
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,399
Speaker 1: man working, they try to clean the ship and be like, well,

634
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: the thing the thing is is that this all of

635
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 1: this ship is allegedly man, we would we would be

636
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:59,399
Speaker 1: coming home from from from the show, right and it's

637
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,399
Speaker 1: so funning bad. But me and Bill didn't give a fuck.

638
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 1: We had bitches in the limo even read too. We

639
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 1: had bitches in the limo, man, and then we'll they

640
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 1: be like, no, man, they can't ride in here. Who

641
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 1: was Willy was like trying to keep it professional, keep

642
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:22,479
Speaker 1: these guys to get caught professional. Listen. We had bitches, really, man,

643
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 1: these dudes man, if you let them go too far

644
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 1: Bro to far basically take it, They're gonna take it

645
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: to It was the big brother cock block limousine bully

646
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:39,839
Speaker 1: riding here so here coming out of the show, y'all

647
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 1: got all these women that he was like, they're getting

648
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 1: limousine bully. It's the thing, man, got to the point

649
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: where we wouldn't bring no listen. I never had a

650
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 1: problem with girls hopping into the limousine as long as

651
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 1: that they were pretty and that was and it was spacious.

652
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 1: Oh so you don't want to say, you know something

653
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:10,840
Speaker 1: sometimes with monkey mountains at times challenges. But this is

654
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Whatever, this is what I'm saying, Nick Man,

655
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 1: I'm not riding nowhere uncomfortable. I'm I'm fucking we We

656
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: were in a limousine, man, We're supposed to be comfortable.

657
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 1: We're not supposed to have a whole damn club inside

658
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 1: the limousine, people all hanging all on the floor and

659
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 1: and and all the mage him having the same conversation

660
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 1: with a United Airlines gate check lady in Mississippi. I

661
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 1: think that get check lady would be appreciative. No, Willy,

662
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 1: we got into some ship. No, no, yeah, no, we

663
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 1: got into some ship. You got out of some ship.

664
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 1: You started the ship and got out of it. No,

665
00:39:55,719 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 1: this dude, we were we were in Jackson, Jacksonville, not Jacksonville.

666
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 1: We were in Jackson, Mississippi. This dude walks up to

667
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 1: the kind of we we had just did a show.

668
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 1: He walks up to the counter and he and Bill

669
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:16,280
Speaker 1: are cracking jokes about the plane going down? Oh ship?

670
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 1: So the uh, the the what do they call those people? Who?

671
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 1: But but this is we're talking we're talking ninety one right,

672
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 1: so still on the planes, and we were working around

673
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:39,320
Speaker 1: the whoever the people yours is who take the ticket people?

674
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 1: So they were like, it's a white dude. It was

675
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 1: a white dude, and and and a white lady. But

676
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 1: the white dude, he had that attitude. He's like, um,

677
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:54,280
Speaker 1: y'are not gonna be able to fly to that because

678
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:58,240
Speaker 1: he said, what's going because you don't make jokes about

679
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 1: something like that, You don't make jokes about plane going down.

680
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 1: So this dude start made the fucking gem him and

681
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 1: bid joking about and and look and right as they're

682
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 1: saying we're not gonna be able to talk and they're

683
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 1: doing a little ship, he take off and go who

684
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 1: who is that you left with him and breed him

685
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 1: and mc breath they take off, they go jump on

686
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 1: a whole nothing and jump on the plane and that goal.

687
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:35,800
Speaker 1: We have to spend the night in Jackson because because

688
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 1: of something that he did. This dude can be at

689
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 1: times very inconsiderate of others, and so this is what

690
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 1: happened to us. We had to pay for his mistake. This,

691
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 1: this is what happens. I'm gonna say this. Don't say that,

692
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:54,359
Speaker 1: don't say ship yeah, yes, man, don't let don't let

693
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 1: them leave here believing no ships like that will. So

694
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:01,879
Speaker 1: you didn't make no joke. I don't want to rewrite history, bro.

695
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: You don't make new jokes with Bill. I ain't sunk

696
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,240
Speaker 1: with Bill like that. It wasn't nothing funny about Bill.

697
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I think you wouldn't even now I

698
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,439
Speaker 1: think I was. I'm believing I'm believing him. I will

699
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:18,240
Speaker 1: say this, I will say this, will your your escape

700
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 1: game is alleged how you escape going on to a

701
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,320
Speaker 1: fighting and reverse this ship to him. You're a legend

702
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 1: reversal games. I'm just saying, like, like the ship you

703
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,399
Speaker 1: did on the plane, you probably got blocked the funk

704
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 1: up these days like that ship was crazy. You don't

705
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 1: had to make new jokes. And Bill and we got

706
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 1: kicked off stage in Dayton, Ohio, right bigg as stage man.

707
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 1: A whole lot of people in the first show, the

708
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 1: first the first big show. I'm you know, I ain't

709
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 1: never seen a whole bunch of people like this before. Yo,

710
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 1: and and and Willis. Did you spike the mic or

711
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,399
Speaker 1: did I spiked the mic? Bill spiked? Bill spiked the mic?

712
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 1: And this white guy ran up on stage? Was spi

713
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 1: the mike because young kids don't know Super Bowl touchdown?

714
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 1: And white boy ran out there. Willie d gave him

715
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 1: a ding ding wings and fries. You said he was

716
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:18,879
Speaker 1: ready to fight ding ding? What is it? Wally shaking? Fried?

717
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 1: What is it? Ding ding? Fries and shake? That's what

718
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 1: you used to call your knockout sticking anybody what anybody?

719
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,839
Speaker 1: But I would not like, I would not advise that

720
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 1: to our up and coming artists out that because we

721
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 1: had to give all that money back. No, we worked

722
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 1: for free that night. Remember we tore up the equipment

723
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: that ship that was a band, equipment and stuffing on

724
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 1: the stage so so out out of the knockout. Y'all

725
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: just start smashing ship no reason, not not really but

726
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 1: Bill turn into just tean up everything thro TVs and

727
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:09,359
Speaker 1: we go. We go backstage. We go backstage after it

728
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 1: was over, we go. Well, first of all, it was

729
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 1: it was Troops manager who ran out on stage. See

730
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:23,240
Speaker 1: this is this is what happened. Troops manager, I wanted

731
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 1: to us to end our show early. They would have headliners,

732
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 1: but we sold the tickets we would have wanted everybody

733
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 1: was coming to see like because then it was Troop

734
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: after seven and somebody else. Right, it was an R

735
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 1: and B show at and they tried. They couldn't sell

736
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 1: the tickets. They couldn't move tickets. It was like two

737
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 1: weeks before the show and they had only sold like

738
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 1: a couple of hundred tickets. They put us on that

739
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 1: and sell out. So now we know that people are

740
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 1: that the majority of people are there to see us.

741
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 1: So what happens is okay, tell the study I don't

742
00:44:56,560 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 1: know your grass up, damn. So so we were on

743
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 1: the stage and the dude, our manager, tell us we

744
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 1: gotta wrap it up and were like, we want to perform,

745
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 1: like we were only done twenty minutes. We got five

746
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 1: minute show. So we want to perform for these these

747
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 1: people who came to see us, like fun that we

748
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 1: ain't gonna So Bill say, yeah, they want us to

749
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 1: end the show right now. Funk that way. Ain't none

750
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 1: of us holes. So the dude, that's when the dude

751
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: cut the mic off. Well, first he cut the lights off,

752
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 1: then he cut the mic off. When he cut the

753
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 1: mic off, Bill slammed the mic. The sound man come

754
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 1: running out there, slip him. Then troops, manager come run

755
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 1: out there. Harry Dan Dan you know, yeah, got him

756
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 1: real good. Uh So, now we start tying up the

757
00:45:55,960 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 1: equipment on the stage. The crowd, the drum and the crowd,

758
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:03,479
Speaker 1: and the crowd don't the crowd, don't do it. Don't

759
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 1: don't help the situation. They're like, oh yeah, because the

760
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 1: crowd already met him. We gotta in the show earlier.

761
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 1: So they're really mad, and they're all the way on

762
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 1: our side, and and and and it's it's like pandemonium.

763
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 1: And out of all of these people, out of all

764
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 1: these people, like going crazy and stuff, all these noises

765
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 1: being made, I can hear some some some girls up

766
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 1: in the front, like this girl up in the front screen. Oh,

767
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 1: they get o bards for real. So we go to

768
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 1: the backstage. We go, we go to the dressing room.

769
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 1: We get to the dressing room. We walk in our

770
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 1: dressing room. All the glass it's broken, you remember that part.

771
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 1: And the grass is broken, and I dressing room broken

772
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 1: and I dressing is in the damn dressing room, pacing

773
00:46:54,840 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 1: he all the motherfuck mirrors and I dressing room. So

774
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 1: next thing you know, they got these big old Berlin

775
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 1: six foot five white boards, these big old ass fifteen

776
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 1: gallon hats on, and they're talking to our manager chief

777
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 1: and they're telling him, we gotta pay for all this

778
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,879
Speaker 1: ship and we're going to jail. Fuck. So we had

779
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 1: to give all that money back to go home. How

780
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,320
Speaker 1: much was we doing shows for back then, I don't

781
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:30,400
Speaker 1: I don't know, but whatever it was, we had to

782
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 1: give it all back, you know. So that that that

783
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 1: taught us a lessons so far y'all out there, man, man,

784
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 1: you know, don't don't get the money back. Don't give

785
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 1: the money back, man. And also and also respect respect seniority,

786
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:57,319
Speaker 1: respect uh, respect protocol. You know, like we were not

787
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:00,320
Speaker 1: the headliners and we didn't respect the headlines. You gotta

788
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 1: respect if you're on the undercard. You gotta respect the

789
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 1: head I don't give a damn how good you think

790
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:12,360
Speaker 1: you are. Get board. The headline is running so and

791
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 1: we didn't respect it. We was like relly, just like

792
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 1: wild and wrong. You still don't respect the head Yeah,

793
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:21,799
Speaker 1: there's our ship. No no, no, that's a lot. I

794
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 1: respect everybody, man, But unless you know, because well you know,

795
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 1: unless they do something like that dope ship. They need

796
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 1: to sell that ding ding fries and shake. You got

797
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 1: two of hamburger and some two fries and a shake.

798
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 1: But food so good at a knock yout hold on right,

799
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 1: I'm telling you write that ship down. You're so good.

800
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 1: It's like Bill had us hostage bro on tour, because

801
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 1: we'll be trying to make Bill like the surprise that

802
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:16,720
Speaker 1: he is, and Bill will be out there in the crowd,

803
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:18,840
Speaker 1: sitting in the seat with the people, like just waiting

804
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 1: on us to come on. Before we even get to

805
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 1: the arena, Bill is already at the damn arena inside

806
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 1: of the crowd, funked up trunk always. Yeah he shuck Bill,

807
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:35,959
Speaker 1: he was. He was the epitome of the word rock star.

808
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, he throw fuck TVs out the fucking hotel

809
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 1: in crashing rooms and cut the mattresses up. It was crazy.

810
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:49,840
Speaker 1: He was a motherfucker man. What's what's the biggest difference

811
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 1: between what where you guys are now in your careers

812
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 1: and where you were just about maybe two years ago

813
00:49:56,560 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 1: before you guys got thirty dollar podcast what happened? What

814
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 1: happened was for me right now, I don't even out

815
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 1: of penitentiary for it for four and a half years. Yeah,

816
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:15,720
Speaker 1: so but it's a short time to gain the success

817
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:17,760
Speaker 1: that he's had. What it was is me and because

818
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 1: because always was doing million, I was with a game,

819
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 1: so it was something that he was doing on Instagram like,

820
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 1: but we expanded and it was like what changes that

821
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 1: we were still the same thing, but it's just more

822
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:32,799
Speaker 1: opportunities and you understand platforms more like what y'all have.

823
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 1: It's not a podcasts a show. And I think Titling

824
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 1: you understand titlanly. You start to understand more ship, you

825
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 1: understand brands, You understand like some people might be watching this,

826
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 1: they understand why this ain't got no label on there.

827
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 1: They're not paying you. So it's just so much more

828
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 1: game that we got in the business side. And uh,

829
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:54,839
Speaker 1: and just it tightened us up outside of you know, money,

830
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 1: that's cool, But it's about information is king in this game,

831
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 1: especially this game right here, when he's cut on information

832
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 1: and understand and stuff, because it's stuff that I'm gonna

833
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 1: tell you after this that a lot of these structural

834
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 1: companies ain't gonna tell you because they don't want you

835
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 1: to know, because if you don't know, you don't know

836
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 1: your value. But I learned about value, like me, and

837
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 1: we talked about this all. We learned about value. We

838
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:17,759
Speaker 1: know how much we're worth. You know what I mean?

839
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:21,359
Speaker 1: If if you know, if I come to y'all and say, listen, man,

840
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:23,839
Speaker 1: I want to get y'all ten million dollars, that mean

841
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 1: I'm I can make a hunt it, I can make

842
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:28,240
Speaker 1: fifty off you. So it's a valuation game. Is about

843
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:32,400
Speaker 1: understanding the different chains of marketing. Understanding what could sit

844
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 1: on this table and you know, understand that somebody could

845
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 1: put something on this table and get your half a

846
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 1: million dollars for a couple of episodes. Is understanding business.

847
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 1: That was the strongest thing that I understand, especially with

848
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 1: us owning our ship, we understand ownership and partnership. A

849
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 1: lot of people think that, uh, you know, if this,

850
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 1: if this bottle was, oh, I gotta give us to

851
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:54,399
Speaker 1: them for me to come up. No, I I got,

852
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 1: I got you know, I got license thirty percent to you.

853
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 1: But license don't mean own ship. It just means that

854
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 1: the license, you know, you know what I mean, but

855
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 1: our own percent of my ship. But we're gonna license

856
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 1: y'all can do this and do that, and we're gonna

857
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 1: bring some bread down. So what will really changed is

858
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 1: that information and understanding and talking to people that's in

859
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 1: different fields to understand value, to understand other avenues to

860
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 1: this ship. This right here, this want some real ship

861
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:22,240
Speaker 1: millioniars for the game. To us, this is our baby.

862
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:24,440
Speaker 1: But for what we got to store this ship is

863
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 1: practice like we were on another level like and we're

864
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:29,760
Speaker 1: gonna change the game for those who's gonna come behind

865
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 1: us about ownership and leveling up on levels. That's fucking

866
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 1: unimaginable from just us saying cause, come on, let's start

867
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:39,239
Speaker 1: this thing and just shooting ship and just putting it

868
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 1: out there, and you're putting it out there to the

869
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 1: world for them to know understanding these different people. People

870
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 1: deal with information different Some people like to listen to it.

871
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:51,319
Speaker 1: Some people like to see it, but we understood that,

872
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 1: you know, especially people from our culture. We first listen

873
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 1: with our eyes, then we listened with our ears. See

874
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 1: this is this is the ears right, you know what

875
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 1: I mean. So so more people are gonna probably look

876
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 1: at your on YouTube than they're gonna listen to you

877
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:07,760
Speaker 1: on Apple because they want to see your facial expression.

878
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 1: They want to see what you say. Yeah, motherfucking Brad

879
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 1: cuts to people out. He said, well, what are you're lying?

880
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:16,240
Speaker 1: It's a different thing. Everything is about the visual. Visual

881
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 1: is more powerful than audio. So as understanding that placement,

882
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 1: brand placement is about partnerships, ownership. That's all this ship

883
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:25,839
Speaker 1: is about. And that's the ship that we sit back

884
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 1: and we just went. We studied and we talked about

885
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 1: and that makes us strong and man, make us understand

886
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 1: the game more. And you know, when the motherfucker called,

887
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 1: you would say, yeah, we want you to do this,

888
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 1: we want you to do that. Yeah we got a

889
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 1: hundred thousand for you just that third and you hang

890
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 1: up and they called back. Damn, something happened to know

891
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 1: we hang up? Do disrespect us like that? Ain't no

892
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 1: sucking money? Fun is mad with you Oh no, how

893
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 1: do they mean to disrespect you? Are We're gonna all right,

894
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 1: we're gonna get back with you. Yeah. And then they

895
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 1: get back and now they're talking some stupid ship. They're

896
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 1: talking some real because they know, like, oh, they know

897
00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 1: they're black folks. And now see a lot of black

898
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:01,400
Speaker 1: folks don't know. I'm gonna tell you something, drop some

899
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 1: strong shot on you, and I want you to hold

900
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 1: this on the little in the viewers. I want you

901
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:09,760
Speaker 1: to hold this on black people. We can trove cool,

902
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 1: but we don't own it control cool. We can troll cool,

903
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 1: but we own it. But but but the system know

904
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 1: how to monetize it. Like if you look at music, right,

905
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 1: look at music, look at it. You know, we're selling

906
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 1: the most music, but most of them executives, they don't

907
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 1: look like us, you know what I'm saying. So it's

908
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 1: understanding ownership, you know. I mean when you look at

909
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 1: Tyler Perio, when you look at certain people and when

910
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 1: they talk ownership that should be real. A lot of

911
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:35,359
Speaker 1: people look at them like, oh, they're just tripping because

912
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 1: the motherfucking you a motherfucker' Sai man Hecko ten million hours.

913
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 1: But you could have made that time yourself and you

914
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:44,759
Speaker 1: could have still owned your ship. But I think a

915
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 1: lot of times we don't know that. And and taxes

916
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 1: is important to we tax attorneys. We make sure that

917
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 1: because it's like, at the end of the day, it's

918
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:54,400
Speaker 1: like we control cool. If you go back to the

919
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 1: beginning of time, if you look at James Brown, you

920
00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 1: look at a little rich you look at all all

921
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:02,320
Speaker 1: our people. We always control cool. From the beginning of

922
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:04,879
Speaker 1: time all the way up to now. We control it,

923
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 1: but we don't own it. When is we gonna put

924
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:09,840
Speaker 1: ownership on our coop? You know what I mean? That

925
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 1: thing that walk willie when you just walk, it's natural.

926
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 1: You ain't trying, it's just naturally cool. The way you're

927
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:19,880
Speaker 1: gonna respond to motherfucker is naturally cool. We control cool,

928
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 1: We created cool. The idea of cool would come from

929
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 1: us and got out and the and the reality of

930
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:32,879
Speaker 1: it is is is every other race emulates the black race.

931
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 1: You know, we could pull up a it's not a

932
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 1: bad thing. We can pull up a bunch of videos

933
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 1: right now where's two white boys fighting and they call

934
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 1: on each other niggers, nigger what you want. We can't

935
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 1: pull up no video with two black men fighting and

936
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 1: they call on each other crackers. Well, we just had

937
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 1: that conversation with with with with with mark Uh Margot Norman.

938
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 1: We had a conversation with him and he like this.

939
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:58,959
Speaker 1: This is something that he brought up first to people

940
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:01,319
Speaker 1: acknowledge that people know where time it is. It ain't

941
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 1: no denying it, Um Wallow. When when you got out

942
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:08,360
Speaker 1: of jail, you literally hit the ground running. You started

943
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:11,320
Speaker 1: watching those videos. You took the Instagram immediately, you started

944
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 1: making those videos and you run towards the camera. Yo,

945
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:17,320
Speaker 1: something's let me tell you. And you just started just

946
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 1: dropping game, telling people what's going on. Now. When people

947
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 1: hear you talk post uh incarceration, they hear you talk,

948
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 1: not even like right now, they hear you how you talking.

949
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:31,720
Speaker 1: People said, man, this guy here is sharp, he's smart.

950
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:35,359
Speaker 1: It makes one wonder how did somebody that's sharp get

951
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 1: caught up in the first place, Because it was like this, Well,

952
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 1: and the ghetto attention is God acceptances God. And I

953
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 1: was worshiping God coming up in the ghetto, and you

954
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 1: know in my neighborhood when I see them dude pull

955
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:53,800
Speaker 1: up with the rope chain on with the bens. He

956
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 1: had the Gouci's on and all that ship. I've seen

957
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 1: that the wood. The women respect to him more than

958
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:00,160
Speaker 1: the dude that was walking home from work with a

959
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 1: motherfucking a plumber belt on or you know, his work

960
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 1: shoes on. He was a square. So I had o

961
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:08,240
Speaker 1: g s that was getting money in the streets, my grandmother,

962
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 1: and there's people my family telling me to do right,

963
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 1: but they was outnumbered. So I came up. I came

964
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 1: up in the streets of Philadelphia, and and I became

965
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 1: married to the streets of Philadelphia because I wanted to

966
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 1: be down will It wasn't that it wasn't that I

967
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 1: ain't I ain't had no no mine. It's just that

968
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 1: my mind ain't belonged to me. It belonged to the

969
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 1: idea of people looking at me and accept of me.

970
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So I jumped in the

971
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 1: street game. The first time I got locked up, I

972
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 1: was eleven. Uh. I went on to keep being locked up.

973
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 1: Spent five years in the juvenile facility, and I spent

974
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 1: twenty years in prison. I spent more time. I spent

975
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 1: more time on this earth incarcerated than I did free.

976
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 1: So when you see me now and I'm living out

977
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 1: my life. Um, when I was in jail, I woke

978
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 1: up and I realized why I was there, and what

979
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 1: was the switch. The switch was understanding that I was

980
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 1: in there. I was. I was in jail for living

981
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 1: a lie. And the lie was that I was somebody

982
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 1: that I'm not. And the reason I say that I'm

983
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 1: somebody that I'm not because I ain't gonna hold you

984
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:04,919
Speaker 1: a lot of times when I was in the street

985
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 1: and I was growing up, and I did something on

986
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 1: me and the homies did something on me, and cause

987
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 1: did something, I'll laid on and be like I never

988
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 1: forget man, me and me and me and cause we

989
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:16,000
Speaker 1: we we went statue limitation ran out was on me

990
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 1: and it ain't that type of shape that but you know,

991
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:23,479
Speaker 1: we did a stick at one time. Come to find

992
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 1: out the motherfucker was a cop. Who fuck we get

993
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 1: in the car. I'm bitching. I'm like, yo, ship that

994
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 1: was a cop. Oh man, we gotta give him a

995
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:33,920
Speaker 1: ship back. But that consciousness right there, I always had it.

996
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 1: Every time I've done something. Sometimes I will always question

997
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 1: what I've done. So I had it there. But when

998
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 1: I hit the penitention, I'm like, yo, man for that. No,

999
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:44,360
Speaker 1: I ain't going to jail for that. It's cool whatever.

1000
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:47,440
Speaker 1: But that was thirty years ago. I don't even have

1001
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 1: a statue limitation. But but but but what I'm saying

1002
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 1: is I love it so so whatever the case may be,

1003
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 1: I ain't you know, I'm just being so whatever the

1004
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 1: keep being scary man, whatever the case may be. But listen, well,

1005
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 1: whatever the case may be. It was like I evolved

1006
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 1: when I was in prison because I let that Nike

1007
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 1: it up face face on point though because we didn't

1008
00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 1: we didn't have to do that with ship that was current.

1009
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 1: But like I evolved and I realized, like, yo, this

1010
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:19,440
Speaker 1: is some goofy ship, Willie. I'm sitting the cell day

1011
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 1: after day with another man. Want the time for me

1012
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 1: to take a ship. I gotta put a sheet up.

1013
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 1: He might be and he gotta smell my ship. I

1014
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 1: gotta smell a ship. The White Bull Guard to live

1015
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 1: in the middle of America. We listen, were building whole industries,

1016
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 1: were building whole towns. All prisons is in a small

1017
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:35,960
Speaker 1: town in America. When they build a new prison, they

1018
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 1: building a small town in America and they build it up.

1019
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 1: The prison, come the walmart, come. They built the whole

1020
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:42,920
Speaker 1: town up, all the homies, all the homies across the

1021
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 1: country that go to the penitentiary and and it's one

1022
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 1: of the real ship that happened to me. I realized

1023
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 1: that And one of the the craziest moments when I

1024
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 1: was in prisons, when the guard told me he showed me.

1025
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 1: He showed me his uh, because I used to work

1026
00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 1: with his guard. He just talks. I just talked. He

1027
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:03,480
Speaker 1: ain't like me. He I'm walking past the bubble. He

1028
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 1: go inside of his shirt, you know, because they wear

1029
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:08,440
Speaker 1: vessels inside the joint, like these staff vessels. And he

1030
01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 1: pulled like an envelope out. He opened a picture up

1031
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:13,920
Speaker 1: and it was him and it was his son, like

1032
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 1: a boat and a house standing right there. He was like, yeah, yeah, people,

1033
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:20,160
Speaker 1: that's my last name. You're in the home. He's brought

1034
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:25,000
Speaker 1: me that. And it was it was it was this

1035
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 1: truth that cut me so deep because it was so real.

1036
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 1: And when I went back at my cell hurt because

1037
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 1: I'm like me and the home he's never brought my

1038
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 1: mom's no cribs, we never do. Did he say that

1039
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 1: to encourage you in? He said that the dig at

1040
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 1: me me and the home. He's bought him that because

1041
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 1: when you listen, one thing about the institution, one thing

1042
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 1: about the justice system. I didn't seeing guards coming young,

1043
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:54,560
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on. Eighteen years old, straight

1044
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 1: off a farm, coming there and go from regular guard, sergeant,

1045
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:04,680
Speaker 1: lieutenant it, major, captain. I'm in Captain, major warden, and

1046
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 1: their son do it, and the brother do it, and

1047
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:10,640
Speaker 1: the cousin do it, and my daughter did it, and

1048
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:13,160
Speaker 1: they get to see and they get all these things

1049
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:14,640
Speaker 1: based off of me and the home. He's put the

1050
01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 1: work in the street and being real niggas on the streets.

1051
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 1: So by us being real niggers in the street catching

1052
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:24,560
Speaker 1: these cases, we're giving them job security. Because as more

1053
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:28,760
Speaker 1: of us keep coming, loading them beds upping themselves, they

1054
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:30,400
Speaker 1: keep telling their cousin come on down to jail and

1055
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:33,800
Speaker 1: get a job. Come on, dearn, Bobby, come down, really

1056
01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:36,200
Speaker 1: come down. They hold listen, I didn't been in the

1057
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 1: prisons where the whole household was there, the mom, the son,

1058
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:43,520
Speaker 1: the dad, they all the mom working in the hospital,

1059
01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:45,880
Speaker 1: on the jail, the dad of sergeant, the lieutenant, the

1060
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:48,960
Speaker 1: son of regular guard, of work in the gym. And

1061
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:54,440
Speaker 1: guess what me let me break it down. And the eighties,

1062
01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:56,520
Speaker 1: I used to go to see my stepfather in prison,

1063
01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:58,000
Speaker 1: Me and my brother rest in peace and my brother

1064
01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 1: Steve rest in peace and my stepfather. And it's a

1065
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:04,360
Speaker 1: picture I got and I used to be happy every

1066
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:06,320
Speaker 1: week to go see any time. My mom taking up,

1067
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 1: make the food, go see my stepa. His name Hip,

1068
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:11,160
Speaker 1: what's phillis Steven Market? His name is Hip? And um

1069
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 1: rust and peace, Willie? Do you know? And this in

1070
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:19,720
Speaker 1: the eighties, do you know? In me and my step

1071
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:21,480
Speaker 1: paps were sealmates in the same prison. I want to

1072
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 1: go see him at do you know? In two thousand

1073
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:27,000
Speaker 1: and five, me and my brother was sealmmates in the

1074
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:28,520
Speaker 1: same prison. We used to go to see my dad

1075
01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:31,760
Speaker 1: at my stepdad at generational incarceration at the same time.

1076
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:35,480
Speaker 1: On the other side, you got the guards. So it's

1077
01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:40,000
Speaker 1: like it's deep. But that ship wake you up and

1078
01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:42,040
Speaker 1: you went and you're like, man, I got more. So

1079
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:43,880
Speaker 1: when I'm out here and I'm talking to cats and

1080
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:45,480
Speaker 1: I'm telling him it costs too much to be a criminal.

1081
01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:47,040
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get I'm giving you ship off a

1082
01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:50,040
Speaker 1: real life. Don't wait till it's too late. I'm telling

1083
01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:53,840
Speaker 1: dudes based off like yo, act yourself, what did you

1084
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 1: really doing? Like we ride for an idea of something

1085
01:02:57,480 --> 01:03:00,680
Speaker 1: that don't exist no more. And let's a young boy

1086
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:03,960
Speaker 1: told me some ship and it was real. I was

1087
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:06,880
Speaker 1: in prisoning me and somebody older cats. He was telling

1088
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:09,400
Speaker 1: on somebody will so he come back from court. Were

1089
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:12,120
Speaker 1: in the holding sales. He telling the motherfucker you know

1090
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:14,440
Speaker 1: young boys like yo young and right there in the

1091
01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:16,240
Speaker 1: last seal, he raping that motherfucker going. He just went

1092
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:18,840
Speaker 1: down the court telling somebody with his ah. So me

1093
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:21,600
Speaker 1: and another old cat, older cat named Jeff Gains. He

1094
01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:24,000
Speaker 1: was named brand dude in the streets of Philly box

1095
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 1: all that we had. We hollered through the game young

1096
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:29,600
Speaker 1: and come to the gate man, we gotta high light you.

1097
01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:32,800
Speaker 1: He said, what was y'all want? Old is what's up?

1098
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:35,120
Speaker 1: What y'all want to talk about? He said, damn, man,

1099
01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:36,960
Speaker 1: we heard you telling somebody. That's what he said us.

1100
01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:39,800
Speaker 1: This motherfucker was a different type of rat. He's saying,

1101
01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:42,680
Speaker 1: Oh the old is right, So y'all know the mind

1102
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:45,600
Speaker 1: y'all business? What the fun y'all calling me for? He said, damn,

1103
01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:47,960
Speaker 1: you know we're going down there. You're doing something you

1104
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:50,600
Speaker 1: ain't supposed to be doing. He said, listen, no heads,

1105
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:53,480
Speaker 1: I understand y'all been in prison for a while, but

1106
01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:55,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let y'all know, because y'all know what's going

1107
01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:58,720
Speaker 1: on out there. Y'all old niggas playing by some rules

1108
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 1: in the book that nobody reading on. We said that ship.

1109
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:13,040
Speaker 1: He backed me up. He was like younger was about.

1110
01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:15,600
Speaker 1: He couldn't have been no more than twenty. He backed

1111
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 1: him off the gate. I get off the gate. I

1112
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:18,440
Speaker 1: go lay him up bed, I said, Jeff, back up

1113
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:21,680
Speaker 1: off the gate because I told my old head, Jeff,

1114
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:24,840
Speaker 1: there was another I said, back up, because he educated

1115
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:26,800
Speaker 1: me on the reality of life as it is right now.

1116
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:29,640
Speaker 1: And I can't say this for everybody, but to note

1117
01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:31,960
Speaker 1: that that idea is out there, that that mindset is

1118
01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:34,480
Speaker 1: out there. And I already was had my mind made

1119
01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:36,000
Speaker 1: up anyway. I ain't going home to do nothing, but

1120
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:38,800
Speaker 1: it's just like wow. So I'm trying to tell these

1121
01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:41,360
Speaker 1: young cats when I'm doing my post, I'm like, yo, man,

1122
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:44,040
Speaker 1: it costs too much to be a criminal, because ain't

1123
01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:46,560
Speaker 1: nothing gonna be more painful than when you hear your

1124
01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:49,560
Speaker 1: mom crying behind you. When you're in that courtroom and

1125
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:51,600
Speaker 1: you're sitting in there, you're Laurier right here. You're public

1126
01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:53,240
Speaker 1: defending because a lot of dudes they't got no money.

1127
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:55,960
Speaker 1: You're sitting right here with your public defender. You're sitting

1128
01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:58,400
Speaker 1: right here, your mom and your sisters and all them

1129
01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:02,160
Speaker 1: in backing you in the courtroom. And when that motherfucker, no,

1130
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:04,800
Speaker 1: when that motherfucker walked up on that stand and the

1131
01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:07,760
Speaker 1: d A saying yeah, excuse me, how do you know

1132
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:10,880
Speaker 1: Mr Willie d How do you know Mr Willie Davis?

1133
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:14,880
Speaker 1: And do you know him? Yeah? I know him? How

1134
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:17,520
Speaker 1: long have you know him? Oh? His mom used to

1135
01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:19,720
Speaker 1: babysit me. And your mom started crying in the back

1136
01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:21,920
Speaker 1: because your childhood friend telling me you because he realized

1137
01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:23,960
Speaker 1: he wasn't really the real naked that he said he

1138
01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:28,440
Speaker 1: was Instagram. That's when life. So my thing be like,

1139
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to tell dudes, yo, get the funk out,

1140
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:35,160
Speaker 1: go switch the ship up, because it's real. Well, I

1141
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:37,120
Speaker 1: ain't trying to, you know, I'm just telling dudes like, yo, man,

1142
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:39,160
Speaker 1: I live that ship. It wasn't worth it. Spent my

1143
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:41,160
Speaker 1: whole life in jail. I'm just trying to get your

1144
01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:44,000
Speaker 1: information based off a lived experience. I ain't know, motherfucking square,

1145
01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:46,000
Speaker 1: telling you don't do this, don't do that. I'm telling

1146
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:48,440
Speaker 1: you like this, and man, that ship hurt when you're

1147
01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:51,440
Speaker 1: in the penitentiary day after day after day and your

1148
01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:54,040
Speaker 1: body start hurting me and you start getting weak inside

1149
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:56,280
Speaker 1: based off of you just want to go home grown

1150
01:05:56,320 --> 01:05:57,880
Speaker 1: man or not. You're like, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna

1151
01:05:57,920 --> 01:05:59,960
Speaker 1: hug my mom. I wanna hug my grandmama. I want

1152
01:05:59,960 --> 01:06:02,480
Speaker 1: to see my kids, and you can't. It's a whole different,

1153
01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:06,160
Speaker 1: you know. The code part is like when you are

1154
01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:11,400
Speaker 1: in the streets and hustling, a lot of times you rationalize,

1155
01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:15,960
Speaker 1: I'm doing this for my kids. I'm doing this, Yeah,

1156
01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:18,040
Speaker 1: I'm doing this for my girl. I'm doing this for

1157
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:20,040
Speaker 1: my mom to get my mom a new house, you know,

1158
01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:23,480
Speaker 1: get out of or whatever. And you know when you

1159
01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:26,120
Speaker 1: get jammed up, and you will get jammed up. When

1160
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:30,440
Speaker 1: you get jammed up, usually you know you can hardly

1161
01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:32,520
Speaker 1: afford a lawyer when they do get you, because even

1162
01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:34,640
Speaker 1: if you got the money, a lot of times they're

1163
01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:37,880
Speaker 1: gonna freeze whatever money you already hadna take whatever you

1164
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:40,959
Speaker 1: got and yeah, and anything you got stats in the crib.

1165
01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:42,960
Speaker 1: The people that you love the most are gonna run

1166
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:45,000
Speaker 1: through your money. This happened to me, that's so, I know.

1167
01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:49,760
Speaker 1: So they're gonna run through your money and you'll probably

1168
01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:52,880
Speaker 1: think about killing them, but you probably won't because it's

1169
01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:58,880
Speaker 1: like your mother and your brother sill. So yeah so

1170
01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:04,280
Speaker 1: so uh but all of this money, everything that you do, uh,

1171
01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:07,720
Speaker 1: you end up losing everything once you go in. And

1172
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:12,880
Speaker 1: then what happens is that whatever you did is now

1173
01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:17,920
Speaker 1: exacerbated by the fact that you got a criminal record now.

1174
01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:23,560
Speaker 1: And so now even if when you get out, you're

1175
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:27,320
Speaker 1: further behind than you were when you were just broken,

1176
01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:31,000
Speaker 1: didn't have a criminal record, now you this, this life

1177
01:07:31,040 --> 01:07:34,560
Speaker 1: of crime, didn't put you even further behind because nobody

1178
01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:36,880
Speaker 1: wants to hire you, nobody wants to deal with you,

1179
01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:40,960
Speaker 1: and people don't trust you. So also, are you really

1180
01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:43,400
Speaker 1: doing it? Are you doing it? Are you doing it

1181
01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:46,000
Speaker 1: for you? Are you really are you doing it for

1182
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:47,440
Speaker 1: the kids, Because if you're doing it for the kids,

1183
01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:52,080
Speaker 1: the most important thing for your kids is presents, not presents,

1184
01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:56,400
Speaker 1: your presence, not presence. That is the absolute most important

1185
01:07:56,480 --> 01:08:01,120
Speaker 1: thing for a child. And so when you once you

1186
01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:04,880
Speaker 1: remove yourself from the house. Now the house is open,

1187
01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:09,240
Speaker 1: it's wide open to be raped and pillaged. You locked up,

1188
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:11,800
Speaker 1: you can't do nothing about it. Some dudes coming through

1189
01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:15,000
Speaker 1: the house, and you know, after a while, if you

1190
01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:17,000
Speaker 1: stay long enough, he's gonna start looking at your kids.

1191
01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:21,640
Speaker 1: Your daughter might be but it might he might be

1192
01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:25,080
Speaker 1: looking at your son. And then when your son, now,

1193
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:27,720
Speaker 1: your son has to become a man faster than what

1194
01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:30,280
Speaker 1: he's supposed to be because he's trying to feel your shoes,

1195
01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:34,200
Speaker 1: and thus the cycle repeats itself. That's what happened to

1196
01:08:34,240 --> 01:08:37,360
Speaker 1: while basically trying to feel the shoes of a man's

1197
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:40,040
Speaker 1: doing something that another a man should have been doing,

1198
01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:43,360
Speaker 1: that was responsible for him, that bring him to this world.

1199
01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:47,519
Speaker 1: So so that it's it's a vicious cycle. And it's

1200
01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:51,360
Speaker 1: the moment that we understand that that we really get

1201
01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:54,200
Speaker 1: that it's a trap. And you know, nobody likes just

1202
01:08:54,320 --> 01:08:56,120
Speaker 1: like in a relationship, nobody likes to be made of

1203
01:08:56,160 --> 01:08:58,880
Speaker 1: a fool, fool of if you once you realize if

1204
01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:01,040
Speaker 1: you're in a relationship and somebody made you out of

1205
01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:02,679
Speaker 1: a fool, you don't want to be with that person.

1206
01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:04,280
Speaker 1: You don't want to deal with that person anymore. So,

1207
01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:06,920
Speaker 1: why do we allow this system that we know it's

1208
01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:11,280
Speaker 1: stacked against us, that we know is designed to make

1209
01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:13,240
Speaker 1: us out of a fool? Why do we allow the

1210
01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:16,200
Speaker 1: system to make us out of a fool? It's real,

1211
01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:20,760
Speaker 1: and you know it's like, uh, like me, well, a

1212
01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:23,200
Speaker 1: lot of my funers' understand they see me. I'm happy,

1213
01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:24,720
Speaker 1: ay because I'm happy to be out here. And a

1214
01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:28,000
Speaker 1: lot of my homies died. My brother got killed, he

1215
01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:30,240
Speaker 1: got shot, died in my grandma arms and the door

1216
01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:32,400
Speaker 1: step out of you know, the crib I was raised

1217
01:09:32,439 --> 01:09:36,760
Speaker 1: in um And it's like it's so much for me,

1218
01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:39,439
Speaker 1: and I'd be happy because I'm living. I'm out here

1219
01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:41,960
Speaker 1: living for his kids. That's the most gangster ship I

1220
01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:44,080
Speaker 1: can have ever done in my life. You know. I'm

1221
01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:46,000
Speaker 1: there for my brother's kid, him, there for my family.

1222
01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:50,240
Speaker 1: That's all that. That's gangster, you know. Uh. And it'd

1223
01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:53,920
Speaker 1: be like like like, I'm just trying to show motherfucker's

1224
01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:57,000
Speaker 1: really really real? Is who you are, not what you do?

1225
01:09:57,800 --> 01:10:00,519
Speaker 1: Really really it's just real. Is that if you want, motherfucker,

1226
01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:02,560
Speaker 1: you get a baby day. You work at Wendy's, you

1227
01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:05,080
Speaker 1: work at Bernie King you're doing you, you go home,

1228
01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:08,200
Speaker 1: you play the games, you kick it with whoever that's you,

1229
01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:11,880
Speaker 1: bro be. That ain't wrong with that. But but you know,

1230
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:15,280
Speaker 1: as black people, we put so much priority and so

1231
01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:18,639
Speaker 1: much status on being a cool motherfucker, being lit, having

1232
01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:22,080
Speaker 1: cards so so so it'd be like we are our

1233
01:10:22,120 --> 01:10:25,720
Speaker 1: whole outlook a real. It's imagine the ship. Real got

1234
01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:28,080
Speaker 1: something to do with a real to us A lot

1235
01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:29,839
Speaker 1: of times Real got something to do with some criminal

1236
01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:32,760
Speaker 1: ship He real nigga getting money her real name. He

1237
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:36,120
Speaker 1: shot Willie D last week. Real he shot a motherfucker.

1238
01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:39,200
Speaker 1: You get more praise for doing something to another motherfucking

1239
01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:41,920
Speaker 1: black people is than just doing yourself. You know what

1240
01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:44,240
Speaker 1: I don't get, man, I don't I don't get how

1241
01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:47,680
Speaker 1: people who kill people and I in our neighborhood is

1242
01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:52,360
Speaker 1: accepted back into the community. Like when you live in

1243
01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:56,639
Speaker 1: up and like I'll say specifically a white community predominant

1244
01:10:56,680 --> 01:10:59,760
Speaker 1: predominantly white community. If you take the life of some

1245
01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:02,960
Speaker 1: body that's in that neighborhood, your whole family got to

1246
01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:06,240
Speaker 1: get the funk out because it's it's two reasons were

1247
01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:08,960
Speaker 1: The main reason is that hey, man, just murder somebody

1248
01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:11,720
Speaker 1: where you murder somebody, and guess what happens. It makes

1249
01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:14,240
Speaker 1: the property value go to crime makes the property value

1250
01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:16,840
Speaker 1: go down. And murder is the worst crime you can commit.

1251
01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:19,920
Speaker 1: So they're like, get the funk out. You're bringing up.

1252
01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:24,559
Speaker 1: You're gonna make you devalue in my home and devalue

1253
01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:27,120
Speaker 1: my property. So they're gonna push your ass all the

1254
01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:31,840
Speaker 1: way out. But us, you know, in the hood, this

1255
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:34,720
Speaker 1: person go out there and kill somebody in the neighborhood.

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Speaker 1: And they come back, and we said, we call him,

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Speaker 1: we give him a nickname, call them killer. We have

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Speaker 1: a day we throw a damn barbecue for him or something,

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Speaker 1: you know, after they don't kill somebody, and they have

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Speaker 1: a barbecue and everybody people show up and everybody's celebrating,

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01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:49,800
Speaker 1: and you just you know, it's when you live a

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Speaker 1: certain way and you condition to be a certain way.

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Speaker 1: A lot of times, man, everything that's bad is viewed

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Speaker 1: that's good, and everything good is viewed that's bad. It's

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01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:03,360
Speaker 1: speaking of the good and the bad. You oftentimes will

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01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:07,439
Speaker 1: give advice to a lot of young men who want

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01:12:07,960 --> 01:12:10,720
Speaker 1: that advice about women. Where where did you get in

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01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:13,479
Speaker 1: your game? First of all, your game be like ice

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01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:20,960
Speaker 1: cold on point I realized, But where where does that

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Speaker 1: come from? Man? That like, did you did you have

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Speaker 1: an O G that you looked up to? They passed

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Speaker 1: the game down to you as this back. You know,

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Speaker 1: I think I'd like to say we was the last

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Speaker 1: ever that came from They had old heads, you know,

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Speaker 1: that respected our old heads. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: For me, I'm from Ariab, North Philly. We always was

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Speaker 1: like you know, some slick talking mom. That's just like

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01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:47,559
Speaker 1: our neighborhood, you know what I'm saying. But but for us,

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Speaker 1: it was it was just more just experience. I've seen

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Speaker 1: a lot of ship. I've been through a lot of ship.

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01:12:53,960 --> 01:12:55,840
Speaker 1: I've done a lot of ships, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: So for me, it's like, if I don't get eat

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Speaker 1: the youth some type of game, some type and what

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01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:05,000
Speaker 1: we call game is god. It's attention, motivation and education.

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Speaker 1: If I don't, if I don't bless him, I don't

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Speaker 1: give him some some type of game, some type of knowledge.

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Speaker 1: You know, I might just trigger one person, two people,

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Speaker 1: three people. You know, That's all that mattered to me.

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Speaker 1: We was in the mall yesterday. It's funny you said

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Speaker 1: we was in the mall yesterday. Man, and this kid

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Speaker 1: from New Orleans that live in Houston now seeing us. Man,

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Speaker 1: this young and was probably about two years old, started crying,

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Speaker 1: y'all niggas like, father figures to me, man, and you

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Speaker 1: can tell that this kid is really from the mud,

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01:13:40,479 --> 01:13:43,519
Speaker 1: like literally this maybe bonds and was with his woman.

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Speaker 1: It was like, hold on, Mitch, wait, nigga, who do

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Speaker 1: but he's seen this and he like, man, y'a don't understand.

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Speaker 1: I live by the ship. Y'all be saying, man like

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01:13:56,640 --> 01:13:59,559
Speaker 1: I ain't handle father, like I ain't handle mall figures

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01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:02,679
Speaker 1: that and just started crying right there in to morrow.

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Speaker 1: So it'd be things like that that happened that I'd

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01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:09,800
Speaker 1: be like, that's guy way of telling us what y'all

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01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:14,479
Speaker 1: niggas is doing his work. Keep giving that ship to him,

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Speaker 1: you know, absolutely, man, And we want to thank y'all

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01:14:18,479 --> 01:14:22,080
Speaker 1: for that guy. That's attention, motivation and education. I ain't

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Speaker 1: got to tell y'all to keep doing it because I didn't.

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01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:25,960
Speaker 1: I didn't have to tell you to start doing So

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Speaker 1: we love y'all, man, We appreciate you. App check y'all. Man,

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Speaker 1: y'all you guys, you know definitely an inspiration man, keep

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Speaker 1: going doing that. I would be remissing not speak on

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Speaker 1: this trade A. This is the reason why you guys

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Speaker 1: out there, that's that's what the teacher man a lot

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01:14:42,280 --> 01:14:48,280
Speaker 1: of stuff, the community kids. He yeah, we had to

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Speaker 1: be here. And I want to say this to y'all.

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Speaker 1: I want to get you all your flowers. I always

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01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:54,800
Speaker 1: get o gs and hip Hop the flowers because and

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01:14:54,880 --> 01:14:56,720
Speaker 1: I always tell the young cats when we talked to him,

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01:14:56,760 --> 01:15:01,200
Speaker 1: like yo, yesterday is the reason today is able to

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01:15:01,280 --> 01:15:04,680
Speaker 1: make so much money. The opportunity, you know. And I

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Speaker 1: tell them, I say, the money that y'all see in

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Speaker 1: the week. Some of these cats ain't seeing a three

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01:15:09,080 --> 01:15:12,240
Speaker 1: or four year career. So you know, I'm just thankful

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01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:14,080
Speaker 1: that y'all was able to create something, to be a

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01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:16,320
Speaker 1: part of something that's so great that we have today

1325
01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:18,439
Speaker 1: where so many people is able to take care of

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Speaker 1: their families. Because when I'm looking at I'm looking at

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Speaker 1: the producer, the manager, the engineer, everybody is a part

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Speaker 1: of this thing called hip hop. The promoter, uh, everybody,

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Speaker 1: the agents, the booking agent, the pure This system is

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Speaker 1: so strong, and it wasn't it strong back in the day.

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Speaker 1: We didn't have all these departments and all these different

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Speaker 1: people that could just getting filthy rich off it. But like,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate your offer, just all your contributions to the

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Speaker 1: hip hop and what we have today. You know, absolutely

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Speaker 1: we appreciate you. Thank you man. It's like that, y'all right.

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Speaker 1: This episode was produced by A King and brought to

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Speaker 1: you by The Black Effect Podcast, ASS Networked and I

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