1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. It was always going to be difficult, I 3 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: think for the Buccaneers and Patriots to live up to 4 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: the hype. Last night, Tom Brady's returned to Foxborough one 5 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: of the more anticipated regular season games in NFL history, 6 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: And as I mentioned on Friday, don't expect a great game. 7 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: You know, everybody I think looking at this game leading 8 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: up to this game, Oh, this is going to be unbelievable. 9 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: It's going to be a shootout, and who knows what 10 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: it's going to be. But I said, don't be surprised 11 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: if it's not a great game, because so much hype 12 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: leading up to this, and the Patriots right now aren't 13 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:40,480 Speaker 1: a very good team, and the Buccaneers are banged up. 14 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: The night wasn't helped out by the weather, but it 15 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: did have a dramatic finish there. It rained all night 16 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 1: in New England. Brady didn't look like himself, but he 17 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 1: did come away with the win. Patriots actually had a 18 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 1: chance to go ahead in the final minute, missed a 19 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: long field goal attempt. I didn't understand the call because 20 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: if you said fourth and three and Tom Brady's your quarterback, 21 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: you're gonna go for it. Instead with Mac Jones, who 22 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: was playing well and at one point completed nineteen consecutive passes, 23 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 1: I would have gone for it on fourth and three 24 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 1: because there's two reasons why. First of all, Nick Folk 25 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: is not a long field goal kicker. You have the 26 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 1: weathered factor in a little bit of win there. It's 27 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 1: a long long field goal for anybody, including Justin Tucker. 28 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: Second of all, what better way to say to Mac Jones, 29 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: you're our guy, we think you can win this game. 30 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 1: We're gonna give you that chance at fourth and three. 31 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: Here's the other thing. I can take the ball out 32 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: of Tom Brady's hands if I keep the ball and 33 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: we get in better field goal range. Now I've taken 34 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: away clock. You know there's fifty nine seconds to go. 35 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: Let's say you make that field goal. So now you've 36 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: given Tom Brady fifty five seconds in two timeouts to 37 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: get three points. I don't like those odds. If it's 38 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:10,359 Speaker 1: fourth and three and we go for it, we don't 39 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 1: get it. It's okay, We've shown our quarterback we have 40 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: confidence in him. Instead of we're going to have a 41 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 1: long field goal and still give Tom the ball back. 42 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:21,359 Speaker 1: It just didn't make any sense. Everybody wants to talk 43 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: about the postgame hug. All right, they did have a hug. 44 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: They did meet afterwards. We'll talk to Peter King about this. 45 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: This is about winning the game, This is about managing 46 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: the game. And I thought I thought Bill Belichick let 47 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: this one get away. I thought he whipped on this 48 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: one because I would have said to mac Jones, all right, 49 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 1: we're going to devise something here. I don't want Tom 50 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: to get the ball back. And Belichick had to be 51 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: thinking about that. Even if Nick Folk makes it, you 52 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: still have Brady with a minute to go and a 53 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: couple of time outs. All yeah, do is get four yards? 54 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 1: That's it? And yes, is the defense going to be 55 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: up and you know, take away anything you know these 56 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: little dunk dincin dunk passage. Yes, but devise something here. 57 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: I just I was surprised at that, because you know, 58 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 1: if Tom Brady was the quarterback, Tom Brady would have 59 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 1: lobbied for let me go for it. Mac Jones doesn't have, 60 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: you know, that kind of clount. He doesn't have that 61 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 1: kind of power. But he showed me a lot. He 62 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: outplayed Brady, He played better. Brady wasn't helped out by 63 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 1: you know, Antonio Brown had a touchdown drop that no 64 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: Gronk in there. That Tampa defense, the back end is 65 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: all banged up so much so Richard Sherman would just 66 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: added on Wednesday, and he looked like he was just 67 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: added on Wednesday. I thought this was a miss by 68 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick that you could have sent the message in 69 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: a variety of ways. Hey, Tom, good luck in Tampa. 70 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: We have our quarterback Mac go out there, gets first down. 71 00:03:56,680 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: Let's go Let's go win this thing instead. And I 72 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: said it in the moment, just so you know, even 73 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: if you kick that fifty six yarder, Brady still gets 74 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: the ball back with a little less than a minute 75 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: to go in two time outs. I don't like that, 76 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 1: even on a night like that, but it was interesting 77 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 1: at times entertaining. We got the post game hug of sorts, 78 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: and then Brady and Belichick reportedly met for around twenty 79 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: to thirty minutes privately after the game. But we move on. 80 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: It's Week four and if you're the Buccaneers, you got 81 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 1: to get that defense healthy. Gronk's going to be out 82 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: for a while with a punctured lung. I was surprised 83 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: New England couldn't run the football at all. They had 84 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: one rushing yard. Therefore, I mean the defense new mac 85 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:54,679 Speaker 1: Jones was going to throw the ball and he still 86 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:58,919 Speaker 1: was very accurate, and he got hit. He showed composure. 87 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: If I'm a pay trade fan, I'd go okay. I 88 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:05,919 Speaker 1: think we're okay at the quarterbacking position. I like what 89 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 1: I saw. The defense played pretty well. No, that's just 90 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: a couple of plays here and there. But that's the difference. 91 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: It's weird, you know, with this moral victory stuff, because 92 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 1: if it's a younger team, an inexperienced team, then you 93 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: can say, Okay, that could be a moral victory. Patriots, 94 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: that's not their approach. Bill Belichick is not going to say, hey, 95 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 1: got a moral victory last night. I think the Buccaneers 96 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: may feel like I doesn't feel like a win. It 97 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 1: just feels like we didn't lose that game. And there's 98 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: some issues there. But everybody, of course wanted to talk 99 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: about Bill Belichick and Tom Brady. And here is Coach 100 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 1: Belichick after the game. You coach Tom Brady practice for 101 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 1: twenty years, but this is the first time you want 102 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: to head against him in a game. What was the 103 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: experience like going look against tom Brady every day every 104 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: day in practice defensively, so it's like we've ever seen 105 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 1: tom Brady before? Was the expensive coaching gets some in 106 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: the game any different? They're a good football to him 107 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 1: and he's a great quarterback. I mean, I think that's 108 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 1: all it goes out, saying alrighty, it's been a long, 109 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: long week, a lot of questions. He's soaked. He's like, uh, 110 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 1: it's you know, midnight. I want to get out of here. 111 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: I'm tired of answering questions. High schoolers are asking him stuff. 112 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 1: And let me hear that again. You coach tom Brady 113 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 1: practice for twenty years, but this is the first time 114 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: you want to head against him in a game. What 115 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: was the experience like going yes, Jake in La, Yes, yeah, 116 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: you coach, you town play the Oracle? Yeah Oracle, you 117 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 1: got one for me? Yeah? Oh yeah, Oracle. If it 118 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: reminds me of the kid who came out too early 119 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 1: and went to sports center, James K. Polk, James James 120 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:57,039 Speaker 1: K Polk, it's like, what happened, right, he just came 121 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 1: out too early? Dame came out too early? All right, 122 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: what's kind of what kind of poll question you got 123 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: for me mclovin. By the way, is that right of 124 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 1: a coach to say we coach you guys him every week? 125 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: Like obviously it makes him feel like Belichick was coaching 126 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: the defense and never liked Tom. But anyway, who felt 127 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: like the winner last night? Tom Brady, Bill Belichick, Mac 128 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: Jones or NBC The biggest winner NBC? I don't know 129 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: Paul threw that one in there they I met. That 130 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: rating is top three all time. Yeah, the first quarter rating, 131 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: maybe not the second third. All right, I'd say mac 132 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: Jones was the big winner last night National stage, Tom Brady, 133 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: you know he got a guy mid first round. I'd 134 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: say mac Jones won the night, Yes toime, But Brady 135 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: got it with the love and the cheering when he 136 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: ran out there, and he still got the hugs from 137 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: you know, from Belichick and everything. Got that embraced and 138 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: came away with the win. And now I think he 139 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: only needs to beat the Seahawks in Seattle to take 140 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: care of beating every single team, not only every team 141 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: but also on the road as well. Yeah, I don't 142 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: know if Tom. I think Tom probably just wants to exhale, exhale. 143 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: I don't think he felt like, boy, I'm a winner. 144 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: They survived. I think mac Jones, mac Jones has to 145 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: feel like, you know what, privately I can play. I 146 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: mean I went toe to toe. It's still a pretty 147 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: good defense that he went against. But Brady, you know, 148 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 1: he complete that touchdown past to Antonio Brown, then there's 149 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: a different feel to this game. But Brady had some 150 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: things to say. He talked about on being back in 151 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: New England, I try not to predict what was going 152 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: to happen, and Howard Field and had a few emotional 153 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: moments as week, just thinking about all the people that 154 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: have really meant so much to me in my life, 155 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: that are a part of this community. Just very grateful 156 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 1: for you know, amazing time here and like I said, 157 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: my football journey took me somewhere else, but I'm really 158 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 1: enjoying that. And Brian won against a really good football 159 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,199 Speaker 1: team Tonight's where we wanted to get. And he also 160 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: spoke on his religationship with Bill Belichick. We had a 161 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 1: personal relationship, you know for twenty plus years, so he 162 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: drafted me here and had a lot of personal conversations 163 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 1: that should remain that way, and they're very private and 164 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,599 Speaker 1: I would say so much is made of our relationship. 165 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: And you know, as I said earlier this week, you know, 166 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 1: from a player's standpoint, you just expect the coach to 167 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 1: give you everything he's gotten, as I'm sure as a player, 168 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: that's what he was hoping for me. But nothing's really 169 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: accurate that I ever see. You know, it definitely doesn't 170 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:26,319 Speaker 1: come from my personal feelings or beliefs. And I have 171 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 1: a lot of respect for him as a coach, and 172 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 1: obviously a lot of respect for this organization and you 173 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:32,439 Speaker 1: know all the different people here that try to make 174 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: it successful. This program brought to you by Panini America. 175 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: The Hottest Rookies, biggest superstars, the old time great. It's 176 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 1: only one place to collect all of them. 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I picked the 186 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: Patriots to beat the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, So I wasn't 187 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: surprised with either one of those outcomes. I think I 188 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 1: was more surprised that the Cardinals handled the Rams, but 189 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 1: the Rams coming off the emotional win, and then you 190 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: play this game, although that's you know in your division. 191 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: The Raiders play tonight against the Chargers. A couple of surprises, 192 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 1: you know. I was surprised obviously with the Giants in 193 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: New Orleans, the Jets at home against the Titans. The 194 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: Titans allowed the Jets to hang in there. They dominated 195 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: time of possession. Then you look up and you got 196 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: you better score touchdown here, and the Jets you could 197 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: almost see the confidence level defensively. They hung in there, 198 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:59,319 Speaker 1: and Zack Wilson had a couple of nice throws and 199 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: look good at times. Watching the Steelers against the Packers, 200 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: I can put this on Ben Roethlisberger, but it's not 201 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 1: fair to do that. I don't think he has any 202 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: time he's thrown these little passes. You know, they got 203 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: issues and we talked about this Going into the draft, 204 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 1: I was surprised they brought Ben back, on record as 205 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 1: saying that I wouldn't have brought him back because I 206 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: just don't think he can be great again, maybe not 207 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: even very good again. Maybe have moments, but I just 208 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 1: don't think that team right now is built for him. 209 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: And that's where I was surprised they didn't take a 210 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: quarterback in the draft. Now Here is Ben, who's two 211 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: years older than Aaron Rodgers. They don't look like there. 212 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: They play the same position. Rogers still makes it look effortless. 213 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh tried to hang in there, makes some plays defensively. 214 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: I thought that the field goal attempt at the under 215 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 1: the first half, I thought that that was a wrong call. 216 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 1: I didn't think the Steelers were off sides. I thought 217 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 1: Minca Fitzpatrick did a wonderful job in timing that Packers 218 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: did a poor job in blocking. There were two guys 219 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: coming and there was one guy blocking, and you let 220 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: the guy inside. Minca Fitzpatrick makes a great play. I 221 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:22,599 Speaker 1: think that was the wrong call. But green Bay was 222 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: still the better team yesterday. Trying to think Minnesota, I 223 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: was watching Minnesota and you're still trying to figure out 224 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: who Minnesota is, how good they are, if they're good 225 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:36,199 Speaker 1: at all. Buffalo looked really, really good, but they're playing 226 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 1: against the Texans. Here's something to keep an eye on 227 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 1: right now, and that is the Miami Dolphins lost again. 228 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: I just I think this week might be a lot 229 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 1: of questions for Brian Flores about to Shawn Watson. You 230 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 1: don't have two of there, but you have Jacobe Brissette 231 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 1: playing against a Colds team that's all banged up. Colds 232 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: don't have their best offensive lineman, Arson Wentz on two 233 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: bad ankles, and you're at home and you can't beat 234 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 1: the team that you used to play for. I was 235 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: really surprised at that. I would keep an eye on 236 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: what happens with Miami and the questions that are asked 237 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: if they're in the market for DeShawn Watson. Not that 238 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: Brian Flores is going to say anything. He's going to say, 239 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: we have our quarterbacks here. This is about the ownership. 240 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: But you lost again. This is about ownership, and this 241 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 1: is a division where you should still get ten wins. 242 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 1: You should be a playoff caliber team. Those are the 243 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: things you know that I'm keeping an eye on. You know, 244 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: the Chargers with the Raiders tonight. I mean, that's a 245 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: big game for both of these teams because it feels 246 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 1: like Kansas City is vulnerable. I watched most of that 247 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:51,679 Speaker 1: game with the Eagles, and even though Mahomes was great 248 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: it they allowed teams to stay in. Now, that was 249 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 1: one of those games where they won by double digits. 250 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 1: It's been rare that they've been able to do that. 251 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 1: And that's an Eagles team that's not very good. But 252 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 1: Philadelphia stayed with them. Kansas City allows you to stay 253 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: with them. And if you're the Raiders, you're the Chargers. 254 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 1: You have to charges have already beaten them. You have 255 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: to feel like, you know what, the FC West is 256 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: still up for grabs here eight seven seven three d 257 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: P show email address DP at dan Patrick dot com, 258 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: Twitter handle at dp show. College football Alabama rolled over 259 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: Old Miss. Horrible, horrible loss for Oregon Notre Dame at 260 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: home against Cincinnati. Not surprised at all that Cincinnati defense 261 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: is really good, really fast, and you've got a quarterback 262 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: who can make some plays. But you know, there are 263 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: a lot of things to recap. Wild Baseball Sunday playoffs 264 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 1: are set Monday night. Football Raiders and Chargers the Dodgers, 265 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, you have one hundred and six wins, 266 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: and I know Dodger fans you want to complain about this, 267 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: but you got to complain before it happens. You know, 268 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: when when you're losing, then you want to comp plane 269 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 1: when you're winning, You'd have no problem with the wild 270 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 1: card format, but it's a lot of wins to be 271 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: playing in a winner take all one game. It doesn't 272 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: seem fair. I don't like it, but you can't complain 273 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: about it after the fact. You know, major League Baseball, 274 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: I still think should look at rewarding these teams that 275 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: play well and the seating or reseating. I really, I 276 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 1: really believe that. But hey, who am I to question 277 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: major League Baseball? Oh? That's right, I should question major 278 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: League Baseball. There's a lot of reasons too. Be sure 279 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: to catch the live edition of The Dan Patrick Show 280 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific on Fox 281 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: Sports Radio in the iHeartRadio app. Let's bring in Peter 282 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: King Football Morning in America, must read column for any 283 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: football fan and also contributor to NBC Sports dot Com. Pete, 284 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: thanks for joining us. How would you best describe the 285 00:15:55,840 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 1: atmosphere last night, surprise, rasingly, one hundred percent loving. I 286 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 1: thought the fans did a fabulous job in you know, 287 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: I was down on the field, Dan. It started raining 288 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 1: very lightly at seven twenty nine in Foxborough. At seven thirty, 289 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: Tom Brady walked out to a great, great ovation. And 290 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: you know, I had been around New England a couple 291 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: of weeks ago, and there's some people in New England 292 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: and I think quite a few of them who weren't 293 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 1: in love with Tom Brady the way they used to be, 294 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: but fans really showed him love. And then I thought 295 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 1: it was great. The first time that the Tampa Bay 296 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 1: offensive unit came on the field, there were thunderous booze 297 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: in the stadium, which is exactly how you should treat 298 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: a visiting team, no matter whether Tom Brady's the quarterback 299 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: or milk plum is. So I thought the scene was 300 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: really cool last night. The thing, Dan, that crowd stood 301 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: for three and a half hours. It was interesting to 302 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: see who was the big winner last night. And if 303 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:14,360 Speaker 1: I said Brady Belichick mac Jones, Mac Jones, I mean Dan, Uh, 304 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 1: you know, imagine what could he be thinking about? Look, 305 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: his life changed forever six months ago, when he had 306 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:25,959 Speaker 1: nothing to do with being other than the fact he 307 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:29,880 Speaker 1: was a good quarterback. He didn't. He didn't you hold 308 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 1: a gun to anybody's head and say draft me. Bill 309 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: Belichick drafted him, and he came into this maelstrom, this 310 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:43,640 Speaker 1: Brady versus Belichick Mailstrom. And last night he handled the pressure. 311 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 1: And Dan, he took three or four shots last night, 312 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: big big shots, and he just came back and he 313 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 1: kept dinking, dunking all over the field, nineteen completions in 314 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 1: a row. Obviously at one point Mac Jones, Dan, you 315 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: know what happened last night. Both teams won that game 316 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 1: because the Bucks survived a tough road game against a 317 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: you know, a guy who's got the answers to all 318 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 1: of the tests in Bill Belichick. The Bucks survived. They 319 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:27,120 Speaker 1: have major injury problems. Somehow they've got a limp through 320 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 1: these games and find ways to win while some of 321 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: these defensive players get healthy and they don't have to 322 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: play Richard Sherman every snap, and so they've got to 323 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 1: figure out a way. They did for one night. So 324 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 1: you know, the Bucks are three and one, and as 325 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: Brady told me before he got on the bus to 326 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 1: leave the stadium. He goes, listen, that's all that matters. Now. 327 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,959 Speaker 1: What matters is me falling asleep on the plane so 328 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: that when I wake up in the morning, we can 329 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: worry about trying to be four in one next week. 330 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 1: I was surprised at the fourth and three call B two, 331 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: for if Tom Brady's your quarterback, Bill Belichick is not 332 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: going to settle for a fifty six yard field goal 333 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 1: in that kind of weather, right, But you know what 334 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 1: was weird about it, dan Is and I just kept 335 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: thinking about this, all right. So I don't know what 336 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 1: Nick Foles, because they hired all their injuries. But word 337 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 1: was last night that Nick foles plant leg is not one. 338 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 1: It was raining hard at that point, and you're asking 339 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 1: him to make a fifty six yard field goal. I mean, 340 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: the guy almost did it. He shointed it and and 341 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 1: but but anyway, I just thought to get I would 342 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: much rather with a minute to go in the game, 343 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: I would much rather have tried for the first down 344 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:57,680 Speaker 1: with Mac Jones. And if you get the first down, 345 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 1: then you're in very makable field goal position. So I 346 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: was surprised, and I thought it was the wrong call. 347 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 1: But okay, but also factor this in. Let's say you 348 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 1: make the field goal. I've given Brady fifty five seconds 349 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: two timeouts. Didn't make sense at all. Even if you 350 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 1: make it, Brady can still beat you. Why not go 351 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 1: for it on fourth and three? And mac Jones had 352 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: been pretty good, He had had nineteen in a row, 353 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 1: had a couple of completions and then it had a completion, 354 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 1: And I just thought it would have been one of 355 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 1: those moments in front of Brady. Not that Belichick wants 356 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: to do this, but you'd be saying to your team 357 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: and mac Jones, hey, I trust you. Go out there 358 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 1: and exactly got that. I don't think it's that big 359 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: a deal for mac Jones, you know, to have the 360 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: coach say, hey, I trust you. He hasn't really earned 361 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 1: it yet, you know, honestly so. But you're right. The 362 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: bigger issue is you're leaven Brady. What would have been 363 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: about fifty five seconds and two timeouts to go what 364 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: thirty five yards to kick another, you know, a twin 365 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: winning field goal. Yeah, we're talking to Peter King. His 366 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:10,880 Speaker 1: column Football Morning in America is available right now. What 367 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:15,879 Speaker 1: do the Steelers do? I'll tell you, Dan, I didn't 368 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:21,120 Speaker 1: see their game yesterday but I mean, the Pittsburgh Steelers 369 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 1: are in trouble. And I think the main trouble comes 370 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: from the simple fact that, you know, Okay, what do 371 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers do in this offseason? You know what 372 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 1: they did in this offseason was say, we are going 373 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,879 Speaker 1: do we understand we've got an old quarterback and we 374 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 1: understand we don't have a mobile quarterback. But I'll tell 375 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 1: you what we're going to do this year. We are 376 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: going to help Ben Roethlisberger by giving him a running 377 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 1: game and by you know, changing up the offensive line. Well, 378 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 1: last year, and I think I'm right and saying this, Dan, 379 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 1: last year they were horrible running the ball, three point six, 380 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: three point seven to carry, whatever, Well what are they 381 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 1: this year? They draft a running back number one overall, 382 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: Naji Harris, and as we look at the numbers this morning, 383 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 1: they are three point three yards a carry this year. 384 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 1: They're running it worse than they ran it last year. 385 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:26,679 Speaker 1: So that plus the fact, hey, Dan, this team for 386 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 1: three consecutive weeks has not broken seventeen points. You know, 387 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: they've not scored over seventeen. So you were asking, admittedly, 388 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: what's a good defense, You're asking a good defense to 389 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 1: basically play games in the teams all year. That is 390 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:52,199 Speaker 1: simply not sustainable. The Niners drafted Trey Lance, I think 391 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 1: in part because Jimmy Garoppolo can't stay healthy and now 392 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: you have this scenario playing out where he's not healthy. 393 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 1: Now Trey Land comes in. How do you think this 394 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: plays out this year? Even though Garoppolo has played pretty well, 395 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:11,719 Speaker 1: I think by all accounts, I mean, Dan, there's a 396 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:17,640 Speaker 1: reason why Jimmy Garoppolo was heartbroken when the forty nine 397 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: ers called them in March and basically said we're probably 398 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: going to take a quarterback. And he's heartbroken because this 399 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 1: was his team and he thought that they could recreate 400 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:35,159 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen in twenty twenty one and play great again. 401 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: But Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch, Jed York, they basically 402 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: without ever saying it, I don't even think they would 403 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:49,160 Speaker 1: say it to many people off the record. But how 404 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: can you trust a quarterback who's been hurt as much 405 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: as Jimmy Garoppolo has, who's played twenty three of the 406 00:23:56,080 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: previous forty eight regular season games, Just there's no way 407 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: they could trust him. And I understand Jimmy Garoppolo once 408 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,679 Speaker 1: more as heartbroken after getting hurt again. But this is 409 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: the reason why they decided to draft a quarterback third overall. 410 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: Now that I'd say two things about Trey Lance that 411 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: interests me right now. Number One, in his limited time 412 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: playing both as a runner and a thrower, he has 413 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,159 Speaker 1: not turned the ball over yet and he's played a 414 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: little bit and every one of the games so far, 415 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 1: so that is encouraging. And I think the second thing 416 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 1: is he's going to be able to get out on 417 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,439 Speaker 1: the edge. And I'm not saying he's going to play 418 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson or you know or you know Tyler Murray 419 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 1: Tyler Murray football, but I am saying that I think 420 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:49,679 Speaker 1: he's going to be able to make more plays with 421 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:54,439 Speaker 1: his legs than Garoppolo did. And by the way, I 422 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,640 Speaker 1: forget who I listened to this morning, very early when 423 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 1: I was coming back to the hotel after the game 424 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: last night. But they said, okay, now, if you can 425 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 1: get something for Garoppolo before the trading deadline, go ahead 426 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: and do it. And I said, no, no, no, you 427 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,439 Speaker 1: keep your depth at quarterback when you think you're a 428 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: contending team. And so the forty nine ers basically are 429 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: going to try to win with Lance and hope that 430 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 1: he can prove over the next few weeks that he's 431 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 1: the quarterback of the future. If not, Shannahan will have 432 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:28,120 Speaker 1: no problem going back to Garoppolo. Well, if Garoppolo's heart 433 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 1: is broken, that's just another injury for him. Yeah, he's 434 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:35,120 Speaker 1: on the injury report this week with parentheses broken heart 435 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 1: and the parentheses. The Arizona Cardinals go into La and 436 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 1: they rough up the Rams in that great defense. Is 437 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:49,160 Speaker 1: it time to climb on the Arizona bandwagon? Yesterday? Really, 438 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:53,919 Speaker 1: I think became It became convincing that you have to 439 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 1: climb on their bandwagon. The two things about that game 440 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 1: that I found so interesting. Number One, for the third 441 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 1: straight week, Kyler Murray, who is supposed to be a 442 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 1: good thrower but not necessarily a pinpoint thrower, is now 443 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 1: the first quarterback in the long history of the Cardinals 444 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 1: franchise Chicago Saint Louis Arizona to have three straight games 445 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:22,439 Speaker 1: of seventy five percent completions. So that's one thing. But 446 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 1: I think the other part of this is when the 447 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:30,880 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals hired Cliff Kingsbury, one of the things that 448 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: they said is, look, this is not a usual NFL offense. 449 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: But the one thing that this offense will do is 450 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 1: this offense will run the ball. And so far this year, look, 451 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:49,359 Speaker 1: they've passed it just great, but they still run the 452 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 1: ball very, very well. Dan, They're running at thirty one 453 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 1: times a game, and that's a lot of runs in 454 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 1: today's football. So if they're running thirty one times a 455 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: game and they have a quarterback playing as well as 456 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray and they're scoring in the thirties every week, 457 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 1: it's going to be a tough team to be. Is 458 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 1: Dallas a running team? Now? No, Dallas is a just 459 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:23,640 Speaker 1: like Arizona. Dallas to me is a versatile team who 460 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 1: can pull anything out of its bag of tricks any week. 461 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 1: And you know, the Cowboys, to me, this is the 462 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: kind of team they always wanted to be that in 463 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 1: some week, if they needed to throw it forty five times, 464 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 1: they could. If they needed to run it, if they 465 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:47,160 Speaker 1: need to run it forty times, they can do that too. 466 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:52,360 Speaker 1: And I think it also helps, especially in a seventeen 467 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 1: game season, to have a two headed rushing monster, you know, 468 00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 1: like Elliott and Pollard. Give you yeah, I agree. I 469 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 1: mentioned this at the top of the show. I wonder 470 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 1: if those questions to Brian Flores in Miami start to 471 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 1: heat up a little bit with Deshaun Watson, and I 472 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 1: know Brian Flores is not going to answer it, but 473 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 1: I don't know. It just feels like losing that game 474 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 1: Jacobe Brisset against a banged up Colts team. You're at home, 475 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 1: You're lose by double digits. Do you think that that 476 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 1: trade talk starts to heat up at all this week? 477 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,680 Speaker 1: I think it depends on how hot it gets for 478 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 1: Flores and for Chris Greer. I think the Miami Dolphins 479 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: at one in three, especially with a double digit loss 480 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:45,959 Speaker 1: to a winless team at home, you know they can't 481 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 1: no matter who plays quarterback for him, they're not playing 482 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 1: well on offense. Dan, I think that as much as 483 00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 1: you never want to make a panic move, and I don't, 484 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 1: I don't, I don't suggest that they make this panic move, 485 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 1: I think Stephen Ross is going to start to get 486 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 1: very impatient very soon. Yeah. I agree, great stuff is 487 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 1: always Pete. Thank you again for joining us and safe travels. 488 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 1: Thanks a lot, Dan, You take care. That's Peter King, 489 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 1: Football Morning in America, NBC Sports dot Com and sleep 490 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,719 Speaker 1: deprived I'm sure I don't even know if he's been 491 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: to bed. That's why, you know, when Fritzie said, hey, 492 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 1: do you want to have Peter on? 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All right, 509 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 1: fourth and three, you got Mac Jones playing well, you 510 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 1: got thirty seven yard line, you got a defensive secondary 511 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 1: that's depleted. Why didn't Bill Belichick go for it with 512 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 1: Mac Jones? Well, I just think Belichick's used to having 513 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 1: great kickers, and he has a ton of confidence in 514 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 1: his kicker. You go back from Stephen Gostkowski, you go 515 00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 1: back to Vina Terry. He had a lot of confidence. 516 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 1: I know it's rainy, there was no wind, but that 517 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,719 Speaker 1: was a game winner and he went for it just 518 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 1: simply because he's got a lot of confidence in a 519 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 1: special team's crew. Yeah, but I'm going to give Brady 520 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 1: the ball even though he's down with fifty five seconds 521 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 1: to go in two time outs. I don't want Brady 522 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 1: having the ball where he can go down. You know, 523 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 1: he's got to go thirty five maybe forty yards to 524 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 1: win the game. Yeah, but the way that that game 525 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 1: was going defensively, he was frustrating Brady all game long. Defensively, 526 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 1: they were they were bringing a lot of different pressures, 527 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 1: giving him a lot of different looks. I just felt, 528 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 1: you know, watching that and seeing that decision unfold, he 529 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 1: felt like he was going to kick the game winner 530 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 1: and then kick the ball off and stop Brady on defense, 531 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 1: which would have been a pretty Belichickian thing to do. 532 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 1: If Brady is Belichick's quarterback last night, is he going 533 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 1: forward on fourth and three? I don't think so, I 534 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 1: think can you? When you watch Belichick and you just 535 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 1: the history of what he's done, He sticks by his guns. 536 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 1: He does what he does. He confuses, he confuses the 537 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 1: opposing quarterback. He brings a lot of different pressures. He 538 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 1: plays great defense. He wins games with special teams, and 539 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 1: unfortunately it didn't happen last night with a special team's 540 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 1: kick at the end that they missed. Okay, what is 541 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 1: it like going against Belichick? Really frustrating? You know? I unfortunately, 542 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 1: two different times in my career, had to open up 543 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 1: in a season opener against him, which typically when you 544 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 1: play against Belichick you love to have three, four or five, six, 545 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 1: seven game weeks of film to watch preparing. Unfortunately, two 546 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 1: different times I'm over two and an opener against Belichick 547 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 1: just because you don't know what to watch. You know, 548 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 1: you can watch all the preseason film you want. There's 549 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 1: nothing you can really pick up from that. You can 550 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 1: watch the prior season's film and the playoff games that 551 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 1: he most likely played in the year before and get 552 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 1: somewhat of a feel for what he does defensively, but 553 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 1: in openers he's really really difficult, and for Brady obviously, 554 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 1: it was really difficult last night. It was a frustrating 555 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 1: game for Brady. Obviously there's a lot of hooplah around 556 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 1: the return, but he frustrated Brady. He brought a lot 557 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 1: of different pressures, and he showed a ton of different 558 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 1: looks and played a bunch of different coverages, and Brady 559 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 1: never really as you watched the game go on, never 560 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 1: really felt very comfortable and confident what he was seeing 561 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 1: pre snap and then post snap. How is it possible 562 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,959 Speaker 1: Brady's going to see something he's never seen before in 563 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 1: playing over twenty years at that position. I don't think 564 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 1: there is anything he's never seen before. But consistently he 565 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 1: never saw the same coverage. He saw a lot of 566 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 1: different looks pre snap, and then a lot of different 567 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 1: looks that turned out to be different coverages post snap. 568 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 1: So it wasn't anything new or some new defense that 569 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 1: Belichick made up. He just consistently kept him unnerved. He 570 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,239 Speaker 1: brought a lot of different five man pressures. I mean, 571 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 1: you looked at what Tampa does and Tampa likes to 572 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 1: spread you out and getting five man protections and have 573 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 1: five receivers running routes, and Belichick consistently gave him looks 574 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 1: where there was possibly six guys coming, but they never 575 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 1: really made Brady throw hot very often. They consistently brought 576 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 1: five man pressures which got defensive linemen in one on 577 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,879 Speaker 1: one situations with their offensive linemen. And you know that 578 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 1: that's what's frustrated Brady throughout his career. You go back 579 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,720 Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl losses against the New York Giants, 580 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 1: and the games that Brady really struggle with were pressures 581 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 1: and defensive blitzes. And that's what you saw all night 582 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 1: long in New England last night. You on the Cardinals bandwagon. 583 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 1: I'm on it, I'm on it, I'm We're four and 584 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,280 Speaker 1: oh right now, I think we have the most exciting 585 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 1: team in the NFL to watch. I think we have them. Yeah, 586 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 1: I'm allowed to say we hundred percent. I've earned that right, 587 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,280 Speaker 1: so I can well, wait, are you saying the Bengals 588 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,839 Speaker 1: are we? Are? The Raiders? Are we? For you? Just 589 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:47,799 Speaker 1: the Cardinals? Are we? I'm a Cardinal. That's where I 590 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 1: finished my career. That's what my kids, the jerseys my 591 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,720 Speaker 1: kids were on Sunday, So I'm a Cardinal fan. Okay, 592 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 1: all right, So what makes you ain't any issues with 593 00:34:55,760 --> 00:35:01,799 Speaker 1: the Cardinals? You know, I would say offensive line could 594 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 1: be an issue. But but Kyler Murray is that dynamic 595 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,399 Speaker 1: where he doesn't need five Pro Bowlers blocking for him. 596 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,759 Speaker 1: I think right now he's the MVP of the league. 597 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 1: If he can keep up what he's doing. I think 598 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 1: he's the most valuable player in the league. Defensively, we 599 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,239 Speaker 1: can stop the run. You got Chandler Jones, you got 600 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,280 Speaker 1: Isaiah You've got not a lot of speed pass rushers, 601 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,360 Speaker 1: You've got some power pass rushers. So I just like 602 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,759 Speaker 1: the complete package that we the Cardinals have. Right now, 603 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 1: we're talking to Carson Palmer, former NFL quarterback Ben Roethlisberger. 604 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 1: It didn't look pretty how much of this is on 605 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,280 Speaker 1: Ben though, Carson, and how much of this is directed 606 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 1: redirected to the offensive line or play calling or whatever 607 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,879 Speaker 1: it might be. It's all of it. I mean, it's 608 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,359 Speaker 1: all of it. They're they're not the offensive line they 609 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,800 Speaker 1: were four or five years ago when they had Villanueva 610 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 1: and just the Pro bowlers they had stacked up up 611 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 1: front in the first round. Picks they had stacked up, 612 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,360 Speaker 1: stacked up, So, you know, part of it's that, but 613 00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 1: a lot of it too has been you know, it's 614 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 1: it's it's not easy to watch right now. You're seeing 615 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 1: a quarterback that can't quite create the same velocity with 616 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,879 Speaker 1: each throw. Some throws are beautiful. You saw the over 617 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,279 Speaker 1: the shoulder go throw he threw. That was a nice 618 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,719 Speaker 1: long completion. But you know, consistently, you saw it at 619 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 1: the end of you know, I felt at the end 620 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:19,920 Speaker 1: of my career. You saw it at the end of 621 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 1: Peyton's career, you saw it at the end of Drew 622 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 1: Brees's career. Balls are starting to really kind of fade 623 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,239 Speaker 1: off at the end and die. There's not a ton 624 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 1: of velocity and a lot of zip on the throws. 625 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,239 Speaker 1: So as this season goes on and again, I mean 626 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,759 Speaker 1: it's we're going into seventeen games now. Ben's used to 627 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:39,360 Speaker 1: play in sixteen games or thirteen, fourteen, fifteen games with 628 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:41,920 Speaker 1: some of the injuries he's had over the last scampful 629 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:45,799 Speaker 1: of years. But going seventeen games without that offensive line 630 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,759 Speaker 1: that he's used to having, without that massive run game 631 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 1: that he's had throughout his career and he doesn't have 632 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,360 Speaker 1: all the weapons. I mean, Claypool's a nice threat on 633 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,719 Speaker 1: the outside, but he doesn't have the Antonio Browns and 634 00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:00,239 Speaker 1: the Santonio Homes and the Antoine randall Els and lies 635 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,839 Speaker 1: where all these great players you can think back through 636 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,840 Speaker 1: Ben's career, He's not playing with the same weaponry he 637 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,319 Speaker 1: has in the past. And then you throw out that 638 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,720 Speaker 1: Watt one of the best defensive linemen, best defensive players 639 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,600 Speaker 1: in the NFL's got the groin injury. So I mean 640 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,200 Speaker 1: seeing Ben, you know, at this point in stage in 641 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 1: his career and with the lack of weapons he has 642 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 1: on offensive defense, it's looking like a long year for 643 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,960 Speaker 1: the Steelers. What's the first thing to go on a quarterback? 644 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:30,879 Speaker 1: You know, it just it just depends. When you look 645 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 1: at Ben, It's it's the transfer a weight end every throw. 646 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,439 Speaker 1: It's like I said earlier, it's that velocity. He does 647 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,920 Speaker 1: not have that same velocity when he needs to rip 648 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 1: a dig in over the middle, that's a you know, 649 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,400 Speaker 1: a ball that needs to carry thirty to you know, 650 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:47,879 Speaker 1: twenty to thirty yards. When he's stilling a comeback from 651 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 1: the left hash to the right sideline, that when that 652 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 1: ball has to carry thirty yards in the air. You're 653 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,440 Speaker 1: just not seeing the ball get there as quickly and 654 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 1: as rapidly. And when that ball hangs in the air, 655 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 1: these dbs are so fast and explosive and close cushion 656 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,800 Speaker 1: and close coverage so fast that when you start getting 657 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,560 Speaker 1: to thirty six, thirty seven, thirty eight years old and 658 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 1: the ball's hanging in the air, that's a bad recipe. 659 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 1: But Brady still has that arm strength, right, and Rogers 660 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 1: still has that arm strength, And that's rare at because 661 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,400 Speaker 1: it feels like, you know, you mentioned you Philip Rivers, 662 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:28,960 Speaker 1: Drew Brees, Peyton Manning. Now Ben, you know you have 663 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 1: only so many throws in those arms, those shoulders, and 664 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,839 Speaker 1: especially if you have surgery. But is this how much 665 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,239 Speaker 1: of this is core and body strength? Because Brady is 666 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,319 Speaker 1: really big on that core with that torque to be 667 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,640 Speaker 1: able to deliver the ball. And is he said, hey, 668 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 1: I'm not losing anything off my fast ball. A ton 669 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,520 Speaker 1: of its core and a ton of it is lower body. 670 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,879 Speaker 1: I mean that that's your foundation, and that is where 671 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:54,440 Speaker 1: the ball going into a throwing motion all starts. It's 672 00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 1: from that back hip. It's transferring the weight and it 673 00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:01,080 Speaker 1: absolutely blows my mind watching Brady the ball at forty four. 674 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,239 Speaker 1: I mean, the ball still has glossy on it. It 675 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,480 Speaker 1: still has it. There's a couple times last night you 676 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,319 Speaker 1: saw him moving within the pocket because you lose the 677 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,520 Speaker 1: arm and you lose the velocity, but you also lose 678 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 1: that bounce in your step and that explosion when you 679 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,319 Speaker 1: get to the top of the drop and you need 680 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,400 Speaker 1: to shift and slide into the middle or the soft 681 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,680 Speaker 1: spot of the pocket. And you saw that a little 682 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,080 Speaker 1: bit with Peyton. You're seeing it with Ben, You're not 683 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,319 Speaker 1: seeing it with Brady. He still has that pop. He 684 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,600 Speaker 1: took off and ran for a first down on third 685 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 1: and seven last night, and he looked like he was 686 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,840 Speaker 1: twenty eight. I just don't get it. It boggles my mind. 687 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,000 Speaker 1: But as far as the bounce and the pop and 688 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 1: the pep and his step, he's got it. As far 689 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,160 Speaker 1: as velocity and the ball not tailing off at the 690 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:43,239 Speaker 1: end and the ball not being affected by different wind directions, 691 00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,920 Speaker 1: Brady's not losing that. He still has that. And when 692 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,919 Speaker 1: he talks about play untill fifty, maybe he's right, Maybe 693 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,799 Speaker 1: he does. What is it like? I don't know if 694 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,800 Speaker 1: you felt this way, but you go out there and 695 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:58,160 Speaker 1: you're you're not excited to be out there as the 696 00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:02,120 Speaker 1: starting quarterback, that you just you're not having fun or 697 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:05,680 Speaker 1: you don't feel well like have you had that? Did 698 00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:09,479 Speaker 1: you have that feeling where this is my job, but 699 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:13,640 Speaker 1: I don't I don't want to go out here. I 700 00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,480 Speaker 1: haven't felt that, and I haven't played with many guys 701 00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,759 Speaker 1: that have felt that, or at least I haven't played 702 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,279 Speaker 1: with many guys that I sensed we're feeling that. What 703 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,480 Speaker 1: I have played with and what I have seen is 704 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,040 Speaker 1: especially in running backs, when you don't quite have the 705 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,799 Speaker 1: juice to get you through a hole or get you 706 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,719 Speaker 1: through a scene on third and three that you used 707 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:34,320 Speaker 1: to be able to get to, and you don't quite 708 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,480 Speaker 1: have that pop or that pep in your step to 709 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:40,040 Speaker 1: explode through the line of scrimmage. I've seen that happen 710 00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:45,200 Speaker 1: to guys, and it's deflating. It recks your confidence, it 711 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,719 Speaker 1: recks your morale. You maybe don't quite have the same 712 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,239 Speaker 1: love for the game because it's so much more difficult, 713 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,160 Speaker 1: or you you know that you physically can't do what 714 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,400 Speaker 1: you used to be able to do. So I've definitely 715 00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,839 Speaker 1: seen that. But as far as as guys just not 716 00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,040 Speaker 1: wanting to play and not up in the game anymore. 717 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:03,640 Speaker 1: You know, after you get to seven, eight, nine, ten 718 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,120 Speaker 1: years in the league, the only reason you got to 719 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 1: that point is because you have that love and that 720 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:11,719 Speaker 1: fire will always burn. But you know, I haven't. I 721 00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,040 Speaker 1: haven't seen that, and if you have, let me know 722 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:18,040 Speaker 1: with certain guys. But I've seen that lack of explosion, 723 00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,239 Speaker 1: that lack of athletic ability. I mean, you see it 724 00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 1: in running backs kind of at that thirty one, thirty two, 725 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:26,000 Speaker 1: thirty three years old age where a guys start losing 726 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:29,640 Speaker 1: that explosiveness. Well, there's there's defensive backs who don't want 727 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:33,520 Speaker 1: to tackle sometimes, and and there's running backs who are 728 00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,799 Speaker 1: just tired of getting pounded. Instead of going inside, they 729 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:41,120 Speaker 1: want to dance outside. I remember watching defensive backs, you know, 730 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,680 Speaker 1: we've seen with running backs. Jerome Bettis talks about it. 731 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,040 Speaker 1: He said, I knew there were defensive backs that just 732 00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,759 Speaker 1: didn't want to tackle me. That it was just they 733 00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,600 Speaker 1: knew it was going to hurt and uh, but but 734 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,440 Speaker 1: they knew they had to give the impression, so they 735 00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:59,080 Speaker 1: do the arm tackle or go. You know, So I 736 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,719 Speaker 1: could imagine that you'd see somebody come through the line 737 00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:07,120 Speaker 1: and you're just going, oh, this is going to hurt. Oh. 738 00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:10,759 Speaker 1: I would always put myself in situations like what would happen? 739 00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:12,919 Speaker 1: I would just mentally see, Like I used to play 740 00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,080 Speaker 1: against Jerome Bettis, and I've actually stood on the other 741 00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,719 Speaker 1: sideline in warmups and watched him, and I've sat there 742 00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,440 Speaker 1: and mentally thought, what would I'd do if I was 743 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,600 Speaker 1: standing in the be gap and the bus was coming 744 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,560 Speaker 1: downhill and he had two arms on the ball, and 745 00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,719 Speaker 1: I saw that the thirty six on his forehead get low? 746 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,160 Speaker 1: What would I do? Would I be able to keep 747 00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,279 Speaker 1: my eyes open and at least try to get in 748 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,560 Speaker 1: his way or at least be a speed bump in 749 00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:41,239 Speaker 1: his way. So I've definitely, you know, I can understand 750 00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,480 Speaker 1: that feeling for corners, especially when you're a corner and 751 00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:45,320 Speaker 1: you're one hundred and sixty pounds or one hundred and 752 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,440 Speaker 1: eighty five pounds and you got two forty coming at 753 00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,600 Speaker 1: you and it runs four two. That's a problem. I 754 00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,560 Speaker 1: mentioned this earlier in the show, that having that cornerback 755 00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,080 Speaker 1: who can take away one side of the field. Trayvon 756 00:42:56,200 --> 00:43:00,000 Speaker 1: Diggs of the Cowboys looks like he's a true shutdown 757 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,479 Speaker 1: in corner. What does it do to your game plan 758 00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,520 Speaker 1: when you're facing and you face a lot of great 759 00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:08,759 Speaker 1: defensive backs, but they're taking away your best guy and 760 00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,560 Speaker 1: taking like Darrell Reevs used to do this or Dion 761 00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:13,680 Speaker 1: used to do that. What's that like when you go 762 00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:17,880 Speaker 1: I can't go there? Well, it just it shrinks your 763 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,080 Speaker 1: game plan. I mean, you can go into a game 764 00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:23,839 Speaker 1: plan and have one hundred and fifty pass calls and 765 00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,360 Speaker 1: when you have to shut down half the field for 766 00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,480 Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty of your play calls. Especially, we 767 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,680 Speaker 1: had a tough time in Cincinnati with Chad on Tracinco 768 00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:35,440 Speaker 1: because Darrell Revs would line up on him and he 769 00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:37,800 Speaker 1: would give us fits. I mean, he was so difficult 770 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,200 Speaker 1: and one on one press coverage. And the great thing 771 00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:43,080 Speaker 1: that Darrell Reevs had behind him was Rex Ryan because 772 00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,600 Speaker 1: he had that defensive front that he could bring pressures 773 00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,600 Speaker 1: from all over the field so multiple and he would 774 00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:50,799 Speaker 1: get in your head as a quarterback knowing, Okay, I 775 00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:52,640 Speaker 1: got to be prepared to throw hob on all of 776 00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,080 Speaker 1: these plays and then I know I got Revus over 777 00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,720 Speaker 1: there one on one. So I mean, it just shrinks 778 00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:01,240 Speaker 1: your playbook. You know that on certain plays, that shut 779 00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,319 Speaker 1: down corner that you're referring to was on that side 780 00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:04,880 Speaker 1: of the field. You need to work that side of 781 00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:08,799 Speaker 1: the field. Yeah, I just can't imagine where you just go. 782 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,600 Speaker 1: And I mentioned of all the positions. If you're a 783 00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:14,759 Speaker 1: great defensive back, chances are you not going to be 784 00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:18,440 Speaker 1: on TV because you're never going in that direction. So 785 00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,600 Speaker 1: we would never You just were told that Darrell Reavers 786 00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:25,120 Speaker 1: was great. You didn't really you didn't really see it. 787 00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:27,719 Speaker 1: Was there anybody else that you just when I got 788 00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,960 Speaker 1: to stay away from his side of the field. I mean, 789 00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:34,080 Speaker 1: Namdi Asomwa was a great, great corner. He played a 790 00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:37,480 Speaker 1: ton of man when he was with the Oakland Raiders 791 00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:39,440 Speaker 1: at the time. He would just lock you up, and 792 00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,200 Speaker 1: he was so long and so physical that even if 793 00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,719 Speaker 1: he didn't cover you for the whole time, he was 794 00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:46,560 Speaker 1: so great at the line of scrimmage. He would reach 795 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,080 Speaker 1: out and get his hands on you and reroute the 796 00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:51,279 Speaker 1: receiver so that by the time you did get your 797 00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:54,280 Speaker 1: eyes over there, you would see Namdie with his hands 798 00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:56,799 Speaker 1: shoving your receiver almost out of bounds or almost to 799 00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:58,719 Speaker 1: the ground, So you'd have to get off that read 800 00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,440 Speaker 1: and move on. But that guy can be a game record, 801 00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:03,040 Speaker 1: no doubt. And you're right. I mean, there's not a 802 00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,840 Speaker 1: lot of recognition. There's not a lot of interceptions that 803 00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,520 Speaker 1: take you to the Pro Bowl. You don't get seven, eight, nine, 804 00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:10,879 Speaker 1: ten interceptions in a year that normally send a guy 805 00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,560 Speaker 1: to the Pro Bowl. That guy normally gets three or 806 00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:15,719 Speaker 1: four because they only threw at him, you know, a 807 00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,399 Speaker 1: dozen or so times. Yeah, but would you rather worry 808 00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:25,680 Speaker 1: about Darrell Reevus or Ed Reid? Ed Reid had a 809 00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:28,840 Speaker 1: bigger impact on the game because Ed didn't just cover 810 00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:33,280 Speaker 1: one receiver. Ed was told to play a certain coverage 811 00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,440 Speaker 1: in his helmet when the play came in, and he 812 00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:38,560 Speaker 1: would read the offensive play and be in a spot 813 00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:40,400 Speaker 1: he was never supposed to be in that could totally 814 00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,360 Speaker 1: blow up a play or intercept the ball. So Ed 815 00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:45,759 Speaker 1: was you know, I loved playing against Ed and I 816 00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:47,480 Speaker 1: hated playing against Ed, but he was one of the 817 00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:49,440 Speaker 1: best to do it, for sure. But I'm wondering you 818 00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,719 Speaker 1: talk about Junior Sayou was like that, Troy Palamala was 819 00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,400 Speaker 1: like that. These guys who sort of they just go 820 00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:58,919 Speaker 1: where they feel like they need to go, and you're 821 00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:02,160 Speaker 1: trying to call play and then you're trying to figure out, Okay, 822 00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,799 Speaker 1: I got to account for these guys because their Hall 823 00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:11,000 Speaker 1: of famers. How difficult is that to do where somebody's unpredictable. Yeah, 824 00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,400 Speaker 1: you had to have three reads. When you played against 825 00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,840 Speaker 1: the ad read and Troy Polamalo's of the world and 826 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,960 Speaker 1: most defenses and defensive backs, you had to have two reads. 827 00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,040 Speaker 1: It was a pre snap and a post snap red. 828 00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,359 Speaker 1: But then when you played against one of those guys, 829 00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,520 Speaker 1: you had to have a pre snap read a post 830 00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,640 Speaker 1: snap reed. So once the ball was in your hands, 831 00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,319 Speaker 1: which way they were going, and then before you threw it, 832 00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,640 Speaker 1: you had to I AM a third time just to 833 00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,000 Speaker 1: make sure they stayed in that spot before you threw 834 00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,719 Speaker 1: it to the other spot. So those were three read defenders. 835 00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,680 Speaker 1: For sure. It's hard enough to play the position. You 836 00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,239 Speaker 1: got a factor in all of those things. Yeah, you 837 00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,759 Speaker 1: got to be careful of those ball hawks. Yeah. Hey, 838 00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:48,280 Speaker 1: great to talk to you. Is always we appreciate your time. Carson, 839 00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,880 Speaker 1: Thank you, buddy, Thanks Dan. That's Carson Palmer his weekly 840 00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,239 Speaker 1: appearance during the NFL season, brought to you by our 841 00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:55,640 Speaker 1: partner Levels like CBD