1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: You got to be your biggest fan for sure. 2 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 2: What's going on? Everyone? 3 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 3: You are listening to an extra special episode of Hurdle, 4 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 3: a wellness focus podcast where I talk to inspirational people 5 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 3: about everything from their highest ties and toughest moments to 6 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:32,520 Speaker 3: essential tips on how to live a healthier, happier, more 7 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 3: motivated life. 8 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:36,480 Speaker 2: We all go through our fair share of hurdles. 9 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 3: My goal through these discussions is to empower you to 10 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 3: better navigate yours and move with intention so that you 11 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 3: can stride towards your own big potential and of course 12 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 3: have some fun along the way. Now, if you can't 13 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 3: hear from my voice, we have had a weekend. I 14 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 3: know you listen to Dakota's story which we recorded last Friday, 15 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 3: hopefully earlier in the week, and today I am I'm 16 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 3: releasing an extra special conversation that I had with e 17 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:08,759 Speaker 3: one the only Salaine Flanagan on Saturday of New York 18 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 3: City Marathon weekend. Salane and I both towed the starting 19 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 3: line for the marathon over the weekend and had the 20 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 3: privilege of sitting down to talk about what's going on, 21 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,559 Speaker 3: what's the latest with her on her journey. The last 22 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:25,960 Speaker 3: time we had the opportunity to do so to sit 23 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 3: down was back in twenty twenty one while she was 24 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 3: finishing Project Eclipse, which we talk about in today's episode, 25 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 3: and today she fills us in on the latest and greatest, 26 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 3: what it's like coaching for the University of Oregon as 27 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 3: well as the Bowerman Track Club, how she's feeling these days, 28 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 3: how it feels for her to be someone that is 29 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 3: paving the way and inspiring this next generation of athletes. Plus, 30 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 3: because we did have this conversation at the New York 31 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 3: City Marathon Expo, she gives her best practice tips both 32 00:01:56,240 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 3: for marathoning and for marathoning within New York City, so 33 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 3: helpful regardless of where you might be on your individual journey. 34 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 3: As many of you know, Lane's also a New York 35 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 3: Times best selling author three times over of a cookbook, 36 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 3: Run Fast, Eat Slow, and she gives us nutrition tips, 37 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 3: training tips, tips on how to manage your anxiety, and 38 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 3: so much more. A huge thanks to her sponsor at 39 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 3: MasterCard for hooking us up for this conversation. It was 40 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 3: my first time hosting one at a marathon expo, and 41 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 3: I'm going to tell you it was a lot fun. 42 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 3: Make sure you're following along with Hurdle over on social 43 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 3: It's at Hurdle Podcast and also at Emily A Body. 44 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 3: And if you're not yet subscribed to the weekly Hurdle newsletter, 45 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 3: that's over at Emilybody dot substack dot com. 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How's everyone good? 55 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 3: Great, nervous yes, excited yes, excited, nervous, all the things well. 56 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 3: Slaine will offer all of you, whether you're running or 57 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 3: not tomorrow many tips, so don't worry. 58 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 2: We've got you. I told you. She's an Olympia. 59 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 3: She's also the twenty seventeen New York City Marathon champion. 60 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 3: For some context, Salaine won that race in two hours, 61 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 3: twenty six minutes and fifty three seconds, which is a 62 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 3: casual five thirty six average pace per mile. Who can 63 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 3: run a single mile in five thirty six? 64 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 2: I can't. Oh wait, we have a. 65 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 3: Couple of bands in the house, all right, pretty impressive 66 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 3: for context, so outstanding. You're also a New York Times 67 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 3: best selling author times three, just a little side thing 68 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 3: that Sheelaine does when she's not coaching for the Bowerman 69 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 3: Track Club or at the University of Oregon. Go Ducks, 70 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 3: Go Ducks. Congratulations are in order as well. How are 71 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 3: we feeling after the win yesterday? 72 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 1: If anyone falls collegiate athletics, we just moved to the 73 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: Big Ten Conference, which is very exciting. 74 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 4: So my women, my Women of Oregon, the Ducks. 75 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 1: We went up against eighteen schools, so it's like almost 76 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: feels like a mini national championship. So I was in Champagne, 77 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 1: Illinois yesterday. This is my third year coaching. I don't 78 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 1: know if anyone here is run cross country. It's maybe 79 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 1: not like the most popular sport, but I love it. 80 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 1: It's like the foundation of distance running, honestly, and if 81 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:12,599 Speaker 1: anyone knows a cross country you know that it's like 82 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 1: a truly a team sport. So yeah, we won historically 83 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: the first Big Ten title for the University of Oregon, 84 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: which hopefully. 85 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 4: We win many many more of them. 86 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: But we beat the number two ranked team in the nation, 87 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: University of Washington Boo Dogs, And so yeah, it was 88 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: it was super fun to just see all of their 89 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 1: hard work payoff for them to just like execute the 90 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: plan and the vision that we had that we'd set 91 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 1: forth many months ago. It's one thing to talk about 92 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 1: and then it's another thing to like deliver on the day. 93 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: That's it's really hard and to get especially all athletes 94 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: firing on the same days, it's hard. They're they're not robots, 95 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: they're human, and so trying to get them to all 96 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: perform on that same day as is tricky. 97 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 4: But they executed beautifully. 98 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: And I watched a video of myself afterwards and all 99 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: I kept saying. 100 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 4: Was like, that was beautiful. 101 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:10,479 Speaker 1: It was beautiful, because it really is when you see 102 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 1: great performance and running. Like not only was their running beautiful, 103 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: but just their effort, their teamwork out there was just 104 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: so rewarding as a coach to see them just yeah, 105 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: run for each other, run for the university, their community. 106 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 4: Everything so super special. 107 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 2: Super special. 108 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 3: It's one thing to dream about it it's another thing 109 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 3: to do it on the day sentiment that I. 110 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 2: See a lot of heads nodding here. 111 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 3: It's something that many of us are feeling going into tomorrow. 112 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 3: For those that are going to toe the starting line 113 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 3: on Sunday, can you offer a piece of advice on 114 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 3: how to show up and do it on the day. 115 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 2: Is there one token. 116 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 3: Thing that you would recommend to runners to put their 117 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 3: best foot forward for their twenty six point two. 118 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, hopefully everyone's arriving, you know, in good health. 119 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 1: That's I think the trickiest part of the marriat fun 120 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 1: is like putting in the work, but then arriving actually 121 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: everything's attached and feeling decent. So whenever I stand on 122 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: a starting line of marathon, like wow, I'm like just 123 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: so grateful that my body allowed me to get here. 124 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:16,679 Speaker 1: So I think just really being operating in a place 125 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: of gratitude and knowing that you chose to do this, 126 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: you don't have to do this, and reframing that mindset 127 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 1: because you know it can feel daunting, overwhelming. You know 128 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 1: you're about to go do something pretty hard, and but 129 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: the beauty is you get. 130 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 4: To make it as hard as you want to make it. 131 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: Right, Like you get to decide what you want to 132 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: go through, what your experience is that day, and running 133 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: with that intention. 134 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 4: And I always say, like knowing your reason. 135 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: Why you're out there is very helpful because when it 136 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: does inevitably get hard at some point, maybe multiple times, 137 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: you got to like think about, Okay, well why am 138 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: I doing this? And everyone has a different reason for 139 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: why they are doing it. So for like me, tomorrow, 140 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 1: I'll beat the price to start with MasterCard. I I'm 141 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: going to be able to experience the New York City 142 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: Marathon for the seventh time with basically i'd say she's 143 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: like a version of my daughter. Her name is McKenna, 144 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: and she's my assistant coach. But I've known her since 145 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: she was eight years old, and she's never run a marathon, 146 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: and she was a collegiate athlete, and she's two years 147 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: removed from being a collegiate athlete. But she endured a 148 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: lot of injuries and so she never thought she'd be 149 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: able to like train for a marathon. What we came 150 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: up with a strategy of just lower mileage all the things, 151 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: and she's actually here healthy and so like I'm so excited. 152 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:40,319 Speaker 4: To just like see New York City through her eye. 153 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: She's never been to New York City either, So like 154 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: last night when we flew in from Chicago, she was 155 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: like this in the cab, She's like WHOA, Like she'd 156 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: never seen so many buildings, all the things, and she's 157 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: not like sheltered, but she's never been to like New York. 158 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: And so after this, I'm going to go give her 159 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: a little tour of the city as much as we can. 160 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 1: But yeah, so hopefully that you know, visualizing I think tonight, 161 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: you know, visualizing how the day is going to go, 162 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: and you know, working through all the possible things that 163 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: you know you could be faced with and kind of 164 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: thinking about how am I going to handle this moment 165 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: when I'm faced with this, or how am I going 166 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 1: to handle this and just feeling a little like mentally prepared, 167 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: I think, because we know that running is extremely mental, 168 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: and I think it's a long time to be in 169 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: your own head. And I think that's one of the 170 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 1: hardest parts, is like you have so many conversations and 171 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: so many times where you're like negotiating with yourself, constant 172 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 1: negotiation like oh, you can slow down here, and then 173 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: you're like no, no, no, you can't, and then you know, 174 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: just there's constant negotiations. Okay, at the next water station, 175 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 1: I'm going to do this or whatever. So I think 176 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: just working through all the potential mental demons and then yeah, 177 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: just being organized tonight allows for smoother morning. So I 178 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: also like to lay out, pack my bag, do all 179 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 1: the things tonight so that when I wake up, it's 180 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: like automatic and I just do the things. Going to 181 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: the bathroom is very important prior, I mean essential things 182 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: like that, you know. 183 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 4: Good coffee, whatever you got to do. 184 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:13,079 Speaker 1: And yeah, just feeling like you're prepared because you're about 185 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: to you know, have an amazing experience and you just 186 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: want it to be as fun as. 187 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 3: Possible, So as fun as possible. Visualization is great. Showing 188 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 3: up in one piece also great. You definitely know a 189 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 3: thing or two about the setbacks that come hand in 190 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 3: hand with injury. After having two different knee surgeries in 191 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 3: twenty nineteen, you made a valiant comeback with your Project 192 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 3: Eclipse in twenty twenty one. The last time that you 193 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 3: and I had the opportunity to really sit down together 194 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 3: share a little bit about what that meant to you 195 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 3: and what you learned from your opportunity to really come 196 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 3: back from injury and come back to running. 197 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 4: I deemed Project Eclipse. 198 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 1: It was when essentially post COVID all of the world 199 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: marathon majors resumed. 200 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:00,959 Speaker 4: And when I saw this come out, I was like. 201 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 1: Wow, all five marathon majors in five weeks or so, 202 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: like forty two days, and I was like, man, someone 203 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: should go do all of them. That sounds really cool, 204 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: Like that's really fun, right, like bucket list. And then 205 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: I was like, wait, why not me? I think I'm 206 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 1: qualified to do that. 207 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 4: Let's do that. 208 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: So I dreamed up this really fun plan to do 209 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 1: all of them, and it really genuinely was so much fun. 210 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: And yeah, it it basically took on a life of 211 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: its own, and it concluded here in New York City, 212 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: and it was just kind of a celebration because post COVID, 213 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:38,319 Speaker 1: you know, we weren't around each other, there was no races, 214 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:42,199 Speaker 1: everything was like virtual. So tod just celebrate the community 215 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: again coming back together. And it was the first time 216 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 1: I really had, you know, been in a race setting 217 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 1: post retirement. So but to see these experiences of like 218 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: the New York City Marathon, London Marathon, Berlin, Boston, all 219 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: of that, Chicago experience it in a different lens of 220 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: not being an elite athlete. It opened my eyes to 221 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:10,199 Speaker 1: what everyone else gets to experience, and it actually deepened 222 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 1: my love for marathoning and running. Because I had such 223 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 1: a singular focus as an elite athlete, I couldn't absorb 224 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: the energy the way that everyone else, the other fifty 225 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 1: thousand runners get to experience it. So really grateful for 226 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 1: that opportunity. And then I somehow seem to keep coming 227 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: back to New York every year. 228 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 3: But I'm sure that when you went through those knee 229 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 3: surgeries there was a period of time where you thought 230 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 3: to yourself, I'm never going to get to the other 231 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 3: side of this. 232 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,439 Speaker 1: Yes, getting back to your point of your question of 233 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 1: like injuries, they can feel debilitating and you're like, you 234 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: don't trust your body anymore, right, Like you it's hard 235 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: to come back from injury, not just physically but mentally. 236 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 1: So in a way, yeah, it was kind of like 237 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 1: being able to believe in my body and trust my 238 00:12:56,480 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: body again. I don't think my knee surgeon would have 239 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 1: recommended that I did that, but he was actually someone 240 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 1: called him. 241 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 4: Up and was like, is Shlaine supposed to be doing this? 242 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: And he's like, well, when I did her surgery, I 243 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: knew that she was not normal, and I knew that 244 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: she would want to run. Even though she told me 245 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: she just wanted to run a few times a week, 246 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: I didn't quite believe her, and I made sure that 247 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: it was I did a really really good job hip 248 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: top work, and I'm still running. 249 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 4: So yes, yeah. 250 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 3: She also didn't mention that she ran all of those 251 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:30,079 Speaker 3: marathons in sub three casual. 252 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 2: Again, this woman. 253 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 3: If you weren't impressed by the New York time alone, 254 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 3: I think it's safe to say that within forty two days, 255 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 3: six total marathons sub three hours is something really really stellar. 256 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 3: Now as we open this, obviously you have transitioned a 257 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 3: bit out of that professional running career now doing a 258 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:53,599 Speaker 3: ton of coaching. How has that coaching transition been for you? 259 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 1: You know, any life change can be challenging, even if 260 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 1: you're excited. Like when I retired, I'm like, yes, I'm 261 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 1: so excited to not live this rigorous, monotonous, monastic lifestyle. 262 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 1: But even though I was excited about it, it's always 263 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: a little scary and overwhelming, even even though I was excited. 264 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:17,319 Speaker 1: But I think, yeah, having adopted two children, Grace and Jack. 265 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: There four and one that immediately throws me into a 266 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: transition because my life is no longer my life. So 267 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 1: that's been a giant blessing in terms of just like, yep, 268 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 1: you're moving on, this is a different chapter. But then yes, professionally, 269 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: I've always known I wanted to coach. I loved being 270 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: a teammate and hopefully like a mentor to some of 271 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 1: my teammates, and so it just felt really natural. And 272 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 1: I've I've had a great mentor myself in coaching. So yeah, 273 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: just and there's not as many female coaches out there, 274 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: and so I don't know, I just felt like this 275 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: calling and need for female coaches, and so I'm blessed 276 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: to be able to coach professional athletes for Nike as 277 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: well as as the University of Oregon women's distance programs. 278 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 3: So and it's so special, right because as an athlete, 279 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 3: so many people look to you and they thought, she's 280 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 3: doing it, so maybe one day, so can I that 281 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 3: sentiment if you see her, then you can be her. 282 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 3: And now you've transitioned into that type of role for 283 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 3: these athletes, these student athletes, these professional athletes, and it's 284 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 3: such a special opportunity. 285 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: In my profession, a lot of the coaches are mothers, 286 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: and I've definitely been of the mindset that, like, my 287 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: kids are going to be integrated and woven into my 288 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: lifestyle and with my athletes. So my athletes know my 289 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: kids very very well, and I think from what I've 290 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: heard from them on some occasions and like which literally 291 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 1: like sends me into tears, is like how how important 292 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: it is to see me not just as their coach, 293 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: but like a mom too, and knowing that you know 294 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 1: that they have that capability too one day to have 295 00:15:56,280 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: a career and also be a mother. And it is challenging, 296 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: it is exhausting, it's very tiring, but it's like brings 297 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 1: me so much joy, Like I'm so excited to go 298 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: home because my son he's like really into medals and trophies. 299 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: Like he'll pretend to race and he's like, where's my 300 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 1: trophy and he'll grab like a stick or flower or something. 301 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 4: He's like, there's my trophy. 302 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: And I'm like, I actually have like a real trophy 303 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: to give him when I get home from our Big 304 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: ten championship win, a little mini version of the big one. 305 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: Having my kids see really amazing role models in my 306 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: athletes and the positive impact that my athletes have. It's 307 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: a very reciprocal relationship, like I'm giving their giving. 308 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 4: It's all good stuff. 309 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 2: It's all good stuff. 310 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 3: They see you as a coach and a mother to 311 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 3: amazing things. When you look in the mirror, Schlane, what 312 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 3: is it that you see looking back at you? 313 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 4: I see a very tired woman. 314 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: But but that you know one day I'll arrest and 315 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: sleep at some point. But yeah, I mean I just 316 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 1: I guess, in essence, hopefully see someone who's like, really 317 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:10,120 Speaker 1: passionate about some things in their inner life and pursuing 318 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 1: them to your fullest capability. And yeah, just hopefully being 319 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 1: in service of others. And if you're in service of others, 320 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: you'll find a. 321 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 4: Lot of joy. 322 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 3: Yes, if you're in service of others, you will find 323 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 3: a lot of joy. Now running looks very different for 324 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 3: you now than when you were running a four h 325 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 3: five fifteen hundred, right, So I think a lot of 326 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 3: people can relate to this concept of transitioning and maybe 327 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 3: graduating within their relationship with running. It might look different 328 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 3: now than it did a few years ago. Can you 329 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 3: talk a little bit about that about embracing the transition 330 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 3: of your running journey and meeting yourself with where you're at, 331 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 3: and having appreciation for where you're at, knowing that it 332 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:51,719 Speaker 3: might look a little bit different than it used to. 333 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: It looks fastly different. It was running sleep, repeate for 334 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 1: many many years. While that was joyful in that moment, 335 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:01,120 Speaker 1: that is definitely not my life now. 336 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:02,199 Speaker 4: You know. 337 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: Yesterday, for example, I did get up and run a 338 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 1: little bit before my athletes raced, just kind of have 339 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: some nice solitude think through their races. I literally like 340 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: run their races in my head before they race, just 341 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: because that's how I am. 342 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 4: But so, you know, nice little shakeout run and. 343 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 1: I I think the hardest part was when I was 344 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: a professional athlete, and then it was like this sharp 345 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: drop of not having to train or something to train for. 346 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 1: It was like my context of what is like normal, 347 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: I guess you could say, is like my normal was 348 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 1: running for like sixty to eighty minutes every morning and 349 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: then also coming back and running again in the evening. 350 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 1: And then when I was like only had time to 351 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: run two or three miles, I'd be like, it's not 352 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 1: even worth it, Like two or three miles, Like that's nothing, 353 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: like why even get dressed? 354 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 4: And now I'm like, whoa two or three miles? Yeah, 355 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 4: like you did a good job today. 356 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:55,439 Speaker 1: So yeah, my, my, my concept in my threshold of 357 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 1: like normalcy is definitely shifted. And now I just train 358 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 1: to be able to keep up with like my athletes 359 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 1: and hold the conversation at the same time and enjoy 360 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 1: that with them. 361 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 4: And then yeah, the ability. 362 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 1: To sprint around across country course is an endurance act 363 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: in itself. And I'm like literally sore from sprinting, Like 364 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: my hamstrings are sore from yesterday. 365 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 4: So hopefully I'll get some recovery today. 366 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: If anyone has any normatics or something or lying around 367 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: something tells. 368 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 2: Me this is the right place to be if you 369 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 2: want to find some norma tax. 370 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,959 Speaker 1: So yeah, it's it's vastly different. But I feel very 371 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: fulfilled in very rich life. And now I'm just training, 372 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,639 Speaker 1: honestly more for like my mental health as well. Like 373 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 1: I think COVID taught me that and Project clips taught 374 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 1: me that was that like wow, I didn't realize like 375 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 1: my drug of choice is running, and like my, it's 376 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 1: so good for my mental health. The dopamine hit all 377 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 1: the good things that pour throughout your body because of running. 378 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: So yeah, it's seeking on a whole new meaning to 379 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 1: be able to run. 380 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 3: Who else uses running as a tool for their mental health? Oh, 381 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 3: every hand in the audience just went out, same, same, 382 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 3: So definitely relatable on that front. Speaking of mental health. 383 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 3: Also self talk something that many of us are going 384 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 3: to be kind of working through over the next twenty 385 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 3: four hours. 386 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 2: For those that have trouble. 387 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 3: Or difficulty flipping the script when those intrusive thoughts creep in, 388 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 3: the ones that we know aren't true, the ones that 389 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:22,640 Speaker 3: make us doubt all of the work that we've put in. 390 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 3: What advice do you have to offer them on how 391 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 3: to bring in the good to that conversation. 392 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 1: Everyone has like their own I don't know their own 393 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 1: storyline that they tell when they repeat like on repeat, repeat, repeat, 394 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: So I don't know whether you know it's creating a 395 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: mantra to help you, I think obviously. I think in 396 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: training personally, I think is where you address a lot 397 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:51,160 Speaker 1: of it. So I think, you know, moving forward after Sunday, 398 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: maybe it's the time to explore that. Maybe maybe not 399 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:58,120 Speaker 1: be getting it you know, right tomorrow, but in training, 400 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:03,159 Speaker 1: being confrontational and like self aware that you're having those thoughts. 401 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: And then the moment you're actually like self aware of 402 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: the thoughts, that's actually the moment when you actually have 403 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 1: room to grow. It's like when you don't even realize 404 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 1: you're doing it is the hard part. You have to 405 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 1: have that self recognition that you're being negative with yourself 406 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: and hard on yourself. And so I think just the 407 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 1: recognition first of all, I felt like reading some really 408 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 1: you know, great books was really helpful for me, and 409 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: just constantly working on it. I mean a lot a 410 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 1: lot of my athletes honestly work with a you know, 411 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 1: a psychologist sports psychologist, and it's been transformative for them 412 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,199 Speaker 1: to be able to just talk about their fears. And 413 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:45,640 Speaker 1: so one thing I always, you know, try to reiterate 414 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: with them is to not operate out of fear like 415 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 1: and to not let fear dictate their future. 416 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:55,120 Speaker 4: And so to constantly just be giving themselves a chance. 417 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: I think with social media and everything, there's that age 418 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 1: group right now is just really susceptible to I don't know, 419 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: they're just really worried about what other people think all 420 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 1: the time, and so trying to give them the self 421 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:12,199 Speaker 1: assurance that like to just focus on themselves. I always say, like, 422 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,679 Speaker 1: focus on your own backyard. I don't care what other coaches, 423 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 1: what other athletes are doing. We're going to be like 424 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: obsessed with ourself in a really healthy way, Like be 425 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 1: so into what we're doing, we don't really care what 426 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 1: other people are doing. And yes, you can look at 427 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 1: it as inspiration, but it's the comparison chap. 428 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 4: Is completely the thief of joy. 429 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 1: And so to just be so focused on yourself is 430 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 1: really important. That sounds like self indulgent, but it's not. 431 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,199 Speaker 1: It's just being like, I really like me, I like 432 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,880 Speaker 1: what I do, I like my team, I like where 433 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:45,159 Speaker 1: I'm at, and so to stop with the comparison and 434 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: constant you know, yeah, totally inspiring, but at the same time, 435 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:50,880 Speaker 1: you got to be really careful because it can tip 436 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: into a not so good place. 437 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 2: So I don't want to go to that not so 438 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 2: good place, not at all. You know. 439 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 3: It's it's funny because one of the quotes that resonated 440 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 3: with me that As offered earlier this year was talking 441 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 3: about the power of being a little delusional, right, like 442 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 3: delusion can be a good thing, to be a little delulu. 443 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:12,679 Speaker 3: I sat down with Dakota Lynnworm now Dakota Popaine. She 444 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,400 Speaker 3: got married last weekend and I asked her, I said, 445 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:19,399 Speaker 3: is this the weekend you polish Alane? And she said 446 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 3: maybe maybe it is, and she brought up the delusion thing. 447 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 3: And so I think there's something that's so beautiful right 448 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 3: about this relentless sense of self belief that each of 449 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 3: us have the opportunity to have. And it's not that 450 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 3: crazy to really believe in yourself. It's actually just a 451 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 3: great opportunity. 452 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 4: If I were to. 453 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 1: Look before some of the major races that I've run, 454 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 1: if I just looked on paper and if I said, hey, like, yeah, 455 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 1: my goal is to be top three or win this 456 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,640 Speaker 1: race on paper, people would have been like, what are 457 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 1: you talking about, Like you have not run nearly as 458 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: fast them, you don't have nearly the accolades all the things. 459 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 1: But that didn't stop me from just being like, well, 460 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: that's why you run the race, right, Like you don't 461 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 1: know what can happen, So you know what, I'm gonna 462 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,640 Speaker 1: bet on me because that's the only thing I got. 463 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,239 Speaker 1: It Like, if I don't bet on me, who is 464 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:13,159 Speaker 1: So yeah, you have to be a bit delusional, but you. 465 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 2: Have to be your own biggest type man. First. 466 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 4: Yes, you got to be your own biggest fan for sure. 467 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 2: Exactly. Now. 468 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 3: I promised her that I would ask you if you 469 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 3: had any singular piece of advice to offer Dakota for 470 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 3: her race tomorrow. You can come from the pro lens, 471 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,920 Speaker 3: because that's where we're coming from, So anything specific that 472 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,120 Speaker 3: you'd offer to her to go out there and really 473 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 3: win big. 474 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,199 Speaker 1: I haven't looked at the elite field, embarrassingly enough. I 475 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 1: have been obsessed with my collegiate world. So I would 476 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: love to just see, like who she's up against, because 477 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 1: it is important to know your competition and how it's 478 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: a It's a chess match, right like, so you know 479 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,479 Speaker 1: what weeks and strengths that certain athletes have, and on 480 00:24:54,520 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 1: any given days something else can happen. But I mean, yeah, yeah, 481 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:01,360 Speaker 1: I mean at the end of the day, you got 482 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 1: to run your own race. And she knows what she's 483 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 1: capable of, she knows her training, and there's going to 484 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 1: become a decisive moment in which she's going to have 485 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,959 Speaker 1: to decide is that where I go or is this 486 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 1: where I stay? And what is going to yield my 487 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,919 Speaker 1: best chance to do well? And you don't know in 488 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 1: that moment. You got to make that gut instinct. And 489 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 1: so I always say, like, just trust your gut as 490 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 1: much as like a coach can come up with a plan. 491 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 4: I always say, you got to be pivotable. 492 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:28,199 Speaker 1: I don't even know if that's a word, but you 493 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 1: got to be pivotable in the moment. I can give 494 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 1: you this great plan and that's what seems like is going. 495 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 4: To be good. 496 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,160 Speaker 1: But then you get out there and you know, stuff 497 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,879 Speaker 1: hit starts to hit the fan and you gotta josh 498 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 1: real quick. So don't be so tightly grasped too. That's 499 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 1: my other message is don't grip the dream and the 500 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 1: goal so tightly that you suffocate it and you become 501 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: paralyzed by it, like you can want something so bad 502 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: the almost like sabotage in a way. So it's almost 503 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 1: like a loose light grip on the goal and on 504 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 1: the dream and kind of got to let it at 505 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:01,919 Speaker 1: a certain point. You got to kind of just like 506 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,199 Speaker 1: let it naturally evolve, because the minute you try to 507 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 1: force a result, it usually goes south. 508 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 2: It usually goes south. 509 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,160 Speaker 3: What I'm hearing you say is you just really got 510 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 3: to meet yourself with where you're at, and that honesty 511 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 3: is going to be the thing that helps you get 512 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 3: to where you're supposed to be, whether or not it's 513 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 3: where you set out to be. And being able to 514 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 3: be adaptable is so important now. Obviously tomorrow the culmination 515 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 3: of a lot of training for many, but the training 516 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 3: isn't the only thing that helps someone perform well on 517 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 3: race day. What would you say as a coach is 518 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 3: something that's perhaps the most overlooked aspect of the training process, 519 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,120 Speaker 3: something that's very important to showing up on the race day, 520 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 3: but not exactly the physical effort. 521 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 4: Right here, this is like one of the most important pieces. 522 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 3: Selene is pointing at her brain for those of you 523 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 3: that might be listening to the. 524 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 4: Years right there, it honestly is everything. 525 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:58,679 Speaker 1: I've had the ability to work with athletes that have 526 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 1: like oodles of talent, like pouring out of their ears, 527 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: so talented, but they don't have the right headspace and 528 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 1: the mentality to be able to capitalize on the God 529 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 1: given gift that they have. And then I have athletes 530 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 1: who are just not as blessed athletically, They just aren't, 531 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,639 Speaker 1: but they have the most like steel trap of a 532 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 1: mind and they're just exceed their physical capabilities because their 533 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:29,919 Speaker 1: mindset is just so so strong. So honestly, if you 534 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,400 Speaker 1: can pair the two, if you got if you genetically 535 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 1: won the lottery and you also have a steel trap 536 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,400 Speaker 1: for a mind, that's like when the real special stuff happens. 537 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 3: Honestly, Yeah, yeah, the mind super important. Also important. Nutrition 538 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 3: and eating well something that you know a thing or 539 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:49,160 Speaker 3: two about. As a three time New York Times best 540 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 3: selling author of a cookbook for those that are getting 541 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,919 Speaker 3: ready to run tomorrow, where should their head be with 542 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 3: nutrition today and anything to offer about the course? 543 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say today is like the don't mess 544 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 1: it up phase, right, Like, so everything is super simple 545 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:09,120 Speaker 1: food wise. Hopefully you've tested out what you like to eat, 546 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 1: what's good on your stomach. Each person isn't individually has 547 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 1: like their own preferred method of fueling. 548 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean it's a fine line. 549 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 1: You don't want to overfuel too, because you don't want 550 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 1: to be like hanging out in the porta potty for 551 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 1: half the race. So I mean people do sometimes people 552 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 1: get crazy like oh my gosh, I need so much 553 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:32,159 Speaker 1: carbohydrates that they like almost overdo it. And then on 554 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 1: the other side, you don't want to underdo it. So 555 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 1: it's like this fine line. Hopefully you've kind of figured 556 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 1: out through your training, like where you exist. 557 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 4: In that realm. 558 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 1: But yeah, for example, like tonight, my go to kind 559 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: of pre race meal is sweet potatoes rice. 560 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 4: I'm not like the biggest like pasta. 561 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:51,959 Speaker 1: I feel like not, I don't know, I feel kind 562 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 1: of like heavy and just I don't know, Pasta is 563 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 1: not my thing pre race, but the sweet potatoes are 564 00:28:58,400 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 1: great fuel. 565 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 4: And then I really love rice as well. 566 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 1: And then usually with like either steak, chicken, fish, whatever, 567 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 1: and then some veggies and I really like a good 568 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 1: bread and good butter, that kind of thing that hopefully 569 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: make me feel really satiated delicious, and then in the 570 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 1: morning eat again. But like I don't like do a 571 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 1: huge breakfast. I'm banking on the fact that I banked 572 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 1: my fuel a little bit kind of in the days 573 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: leading up because I again don't want to like have 574 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 1: a ton of like heavy foods in my stomach. But 575 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 1: you know, I'm constantly sipping on my sports drink. I'll 576 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 1: have a gel right before the start of the race 577 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 1: to make sure it's like I'm proactive about it. And 578 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: then throughout the race every like three four miles, basically 579 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 1: a gel. I'm a big fan of Morton. I don't know, 580 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 1: have you ever tried Morton. I have tried Morton. I 581 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 1: just picked them up from the booth. Yeah, so big 582 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: fan of I don't work with them. I just think 583 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 1: they're a great product. Elliot Kipchoki kind of sold me 584 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 1: on it too. He's pretty fast, a lot of nodding 585 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 1: in the crowd. Yes, It's just what I like about it, honestly, 586 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 1: is it doesn't have a strong flavor. So I don't 587 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 1: know if you like in training you kind of get 588 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 1: like an aversion towards your sports drink and gel and 589 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 1: you're like, oh, I cannot have this. I've had this 590 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 1: way too many times. So I like that it doesn't 591 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 1: really have a strong flavor. It's just like sweet and 592 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 1: I don't know, it just it seems to sit well, 593 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 1: really well in my stomach. So a combination of that 594 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: as a sports drink, Like I'll bring my own bottle 595 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 1: tomorrow morning, like Morton bottles, like a small one, and 596 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 1: I'll sip from that for the first like eight nine 597 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 1: miles and then ditch it. 598 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 4: And then I'll just take the fluid on. 599 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: The course, but I'll stash some nice Mortons down the 600 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 1: sports bra. Hopefully I won't get any cuts or anything 601 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 1: from doing that, because that's happened before. So yeah, Vasoline 602 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 1: is like one of my best friends as well. 603 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 3: But yeah, you look down and you have, you know, 604 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,239 Speaker 3: a scar from two years ago, and you're like, that's 605 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 3: from New York twenty twenty one. 606 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 1: From New York twenty twenty one, Morton Gel exactly. 607 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 3: You talked about what you like to eat pre race, 608 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 3: but I would be remiss if I didn't ask you 609 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 3: what your post race go to. 610 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 2: What are you going to be looking for? 611 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 1: So I'm already mapping it out because I'll well McKenna 612 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 1: and I'll finish, and to get to our hotel, we 613 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 1: have to I think it's about a mile walk, and 614 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 1: so I'm already mapping out like how we're gonna get 615 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 1: back and where we're gonna stop and get food. So 616 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 1: I really love a good slice of New York pizza, 617 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 1: and so I usually create something salty either like burger 618 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 1: and fries, maybe a little champagne on the side, and 619 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 1: then but slice of pizza as well. I'll be looking 620 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 1: usually go to like Rai's Pizza, which is right outside 621 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 1: the park. Actually, I don't know if you can get 622 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 1: to it because of all the stuff going on, but 623 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 1: good slice of pizza. 624 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 3: I'm approving nods on Rais from the crowd as well, 625 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 3: like that's okay, that's an okay option. I also need 626 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 3: you to know that there is a place near my 627 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 3: apartment that does ninety nine dollars pile of fries and 628 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 3: bottle of champagne. 629 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 2: So if you want to talk about that, like how. 630 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 4: Many how many people does it feed? 631 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 2: Maybe just you and me? Oh, Ken can come, Mechanic 632 00:31:58,920 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 2: can come. 633 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 4: This is booge. That sounds great. 634 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 3: Okay, it's definitely an indulge to delay my flight. Then, 635 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 3: I think, so you can come on over to Brooklyn. Well, 636 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 3: I would not be the host that I am if 637 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 3: I didn't now ask you about your priceless start tomorrow. 638 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 3: What an amazing opportunity to get a head start on 639 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 3: the crowds of the New York City Marathon. You've done 640 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 3: this before. What's it like to be on an empty 641 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 3: course like that? 642 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 1: It's a little intimidating, actually, but I like to so 643 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 1: it's it's really only quite maybe for like the first 644 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 1: four miles, i'd say, and then it starts to get 645 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 1: pretty rowdy. I think as you head into I think 646 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 1: it's Brooklyn. Is that the that's the first burrow? I 647 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 1: love Brooklyn, and I'm always like, it's the party is 648 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 1: starting too early. I need you later. Can we put 649 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 1: Brooklyn later in the marathon? Like why are we going 650 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 1: there so soon? Because it's so much fun, I get 651 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 1: like too jazzed. 652 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 653 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 1: I like to think of the fact that, like with 654 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 1: the priceless start so unique. I mean, you see wheelchairs 655 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 1: and I believe hand cycles go first, and then we're 656 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 1: the first people. What I say is like blessing the ground. 657 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 1: It's like our feet are kissing the ground. It's definitely 658 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 1: a little quiet, but quickly the pros catch us, which 659 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 1: is super fun because then I fangirl over all my 660 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 1: friends and I'm like, yeah, you got this girl just 661 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 1: watching the race unfold, like you literally have like their 662 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 1: sweat flicking on you. You get to see them like 663 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 1: taking their fluids, all the fun things, all the drama unfolding. 664 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 1: For the little bit, I'm always like kind of embarrassing 665 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 1: trying to like get out a camera shot. 666 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 4: But I told my friend McKenna. 667 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 1: I was like, hey, maybe you should just like go 668 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 1: run with them Brot second, get on TV real quick, 669 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 1: and then just peace out. She's like, no, that's embarrassing. 670 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, ah, I don't know, it sounds like a 671 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 1: good story, but yeah, it's an incredible experience and they've 672 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: MasterCard has been such an amazing partner to work with, 673 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 1: just because I get to keep coming back to New 674 00:33:56,200 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 1: York and having this really unique experience, like it said, 675 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 1: of being the first on the course, and it's like 676 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 1: I'm winning all over again. 677 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 4: It's like for a while, I am winning, you know, 678 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:08,399 Speaker 4: so our. 679 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 2: Short while the pros overtake you. 680 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 4: Yeah. 681 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 1: No, it's it's amazing. There's only like thirty of us, 682 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 1: so it's really intimate. And yeah, I've made lots of 683 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 1: friends at the Priceless Start and found some really cool. 684 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 4: People to run with. 685 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 1: I don't know if anyone knows Matt James who's on 686 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 1: the Bachelor, So I've run with him the last two 687 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:28,319 Speaker 1: years and it's been quite an experience. He uh, the 688 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 1: first year, I think I don't think he was lying 689 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 1: about his training, but I don't know. He told me 690 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,239 Speaker 1: he was doing, you know, his training was good. And 691 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 1: then we got out there and I really understood, uh 692 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 1: and what his training was like. 693 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:40,359 Speaker 4: And I was like, we are running way too fast. 694 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 2: What didn't happen during the training. 695 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I was. 696 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 1: Like, uh, oh, the we're going way too fast for 697 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 1: the training he's describing. 698 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:48,279 Speaker 4: And what do you know? 699 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 1: We hit mile twenty and we walked the last six miles, walk, jog, cramped, 700 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 1: did all the things for over an hour. And if 701 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,719 Speaker 1: anyone knows what Matt looks like, he's this beautiful specimen 702 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 1: of a man and he's quite large, so the juxtaposition 703 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 1: is quite funny. 704 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 4: But he was literally like I. 705 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 1: Was like carrying him, and I'm like, this is not 706 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 1: gonna be going well. 707 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 4: On me. But super awesome guy. 708 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,840 Speaker 1: He's gonna I think he's shooting to break like three 709 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,400 Speaker 1: hours and he'll be in the Priceless Start tomorrow. I 710 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,320 Speaker 1: will not be with him because I'll be with McKenna, 711 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,839 Speaker 1: but yeah, super fun to just you know, a new 712 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 1: friend made right on the start line. 713 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 4: Just like that. 714 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:30,880 Speaker 3: You mentioned that rough last six miles that also coincides 715 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:34,240 Speaker 3: with what many of us know to be the dreaded 716 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:39,840 Speaker 3: wall for individuals that meet the wall tomorrow how do 717 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 3: you get through it? 718 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 2: What happens next? 719 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean not to create fear, but I think 720 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,600 Speaker 1: the best thing you can do is pace yourself well, 721 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,239 Speaker 1: don't get ahead of yourself. The hardest part about the 722 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,440 Speaker 1: New York Citney Marathon, in my opinion, is the last 723 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,440 Speaker 1: ten k, and it just so happens to be that 724 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,960 Speaker 1: no matter what on any course, the last ten k 725 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 1: is hard. Just pacing yourself well and not getting overly 726 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 1: anxious and pressing too soon is really key. And honestly, 727 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 1: it's the last five k that is the most challenging. 728 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:11,960 Speaker 1: I think once you start to hit first dab, it's 729 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,359 Speaker 1: it's about a mile long climb up to the park 730 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 1: and then you take a the right hand turn into 731 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 1: the park and then you kind of got some nice 732 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 1: tangent lines that weave through the park, and then I 733 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,919 Speaker 1: think the trickiest part is you actually get spit back 734 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 1: out of the park. 735 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:25,960 Speaker 4: I think that was the most. 736 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:27,840 Speaker 1: Annoying part when I like realized when I ran it 737 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:29,760 Speaker 1: for the first Time'm like, wait, why are we leaving 738 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:30,280 Speaker 1: the park? 739 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:31,280 Speaker 4: I thought? 740 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:32,880 Speaker 1: And then it made it feel like it was a 741 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 1: lot longer not gonna lie because I was like wait 742 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 1: when do we go back in because the finish line's 743 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:38,279 Speaker 1: in there? 744 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:39,279 Speaker 4: Why am I out here? 745 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:44,440 Speaker 1: So? Yeah, it's it's it's epic, it's beautiful. Gosh, Central 746 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 1: Park is just like one of my favorite places to run. 747 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,719 Speaker 1: But yeah, it's it's such a special marathon. And the 748 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 1: finish is once again, there's one little hill at the 749 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 1: finish line. 750 00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 2: Wow, you're really foreshadowing, like one little nub of a hill. 751 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 1: I'm like, that was mean who decided to do that? 752 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:06,479 Speaker 1: But yeah, it's it's an experience unlike any other. And 753 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:08,920 Speaker 1: I get chills and emotional every single time I run it. 754 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:10,919 Speaker 4: I'm like, no, I'll be fine this year. I won't cry. 755 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:14,560 Speaker 4: I won't no every every single time. What is wrong 756 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:14,840 Speaker 4: with me? 757 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:16,360 Speaker 2: Yeah? 758 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:20,319 Speaker 1: So I'm really looking forward to experiencing it through someone 759 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,919 Speaker 1: who's never run a marathon, and first one is New York. 760 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. 761 00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:26,439 Speaker 3: What I'm hearing you say is if you hit the wall, 762 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 3: just remember that Central Park is ahead of you and 763 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:29,800 Speaker 3: it's stunning. 764 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,439 Speaker 1: It is it is, it's actually really beautiful. So yeah, 765 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,239 Speaker 1: just that's your motivation, and race pizza and. 766 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 2: Race pizza pizza. 767 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,080 Speaker 1: Just slow down, you know, went and out, just slow 768 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,799 Speaker 1: down a little bit and fuel. Okay, if you start 769 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,319 Speaker 1: to feel like things are getting a little edgy, things 770 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:49,280 Speaker 1: are not feeling so good, just slow down. Walking's okay, 771 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 1: It's very okay. So I know some people are like, no, 772 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna not walk. No, I've walked. I've walked, and 773 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:57,920 Speaker 1: it's it's totally fine, and you can still probably hit 774 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 1: your basement. In fact, you may run a better marathon 775 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 1: if you just acknowledge I'm struggling a little bit. I'm 776 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 1: going to walk for hot ten seconds. I'm going to 777 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:08,880 Speaker 1: regroup and then start running again. Walking is totally okay. 778 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 3: You have been given permission by Slaine Flanagan to walk 779 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:14,440 Speaker 3: during the New York City Marathon. 780 00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:15,720 Speaker 2: Everyone on the same page. 781 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:20,320 Speaker 3: Lots of nodding here, Okay, Two final questions here for you, Slaine. Firstly, 782 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,439 Speaker 3: aside from the marathon, what are you excited about right now? 783 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 4: Eating? Yeah? I love like New York just has the 784 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:30,080 Speaker 4: best food. 785 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,200 Speaker 1: So I'm going to go back and start looking up 786 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 1: all the amazing places to go eat right now, you know, 787 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:35,479 Speaker 1: not too much. 788 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:39,560 Speaker 4: But and then i have to quick departure after the. 789 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,920 Speaker 1: Marathon, so I'm going to map out, like how quickly 790 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:43,919 Speaker 1: I can get to them before I have to take 791 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:45,919 Speaker 1: off for the airport. But yeah, I love a good 792 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:47,799 Speaker 1: like black and white cookie. I don't know, is that 793 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 1: like do people? Are people really into the black and 794 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,080 Speaker 1: white cookies? I really like New York thing. Black and 795 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:55,399 Speaker 1: white cookies are definitely a New York thing. Yeah, I mean, 796 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,439 Speaker 1: if you have any recommendations, I will take them. 797 00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,880 Speaker 3: Helaine's crowdsourcing black and white cookies. We got off the stage, 798 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 3: so everyone's on the same the same page here amazing 799 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:05,920 Speaker 3: good food, good black and whites. 800 00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, yeah, there's so much to do in 801 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:08,440 Speaker 4: New York. 802 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,839 Speaker 1: It's overwhelming. But my two favorite things to do here 803 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:14,360 Speaker 1: are run and eat great good twenty four hours on 804 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:18,000 Speaker 1: deck for you. Then, yes, finally I heard you have 805 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:19,240 Speaker 1: a Tiffany coaching whistle. 806 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 4: How do you know that? 807 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 3: I am kind of in the loop, so knowing that 808 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,600 Speaker 3: I know you're not carrying it right now, but I 809 00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:30,320 Speaker 3: want you to vision for a second. 810 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:32,840 Speaker 2: You're holding your Tiffany coaching whistle. 811 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,200 Speaker 3: You have all of these athletes in front of you, 812 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:39,640 Speaker 3: your coach Flanagan, and they need the final pep talk 813 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 3: going into their big moment. 814 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,920 Speaker 2: What do you tell them, Shalane. 815 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,880 Speaker 1: Well, I can tell you, well, we may have to, 816 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 1: like I'll do a PG version. You know, I'll just 817 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,920 Speaker 1: even say what I said to my women, my twelve 818 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:58,520 Speaker 1: women yesterday in a huddle in Champagne, Illinois. You know, 819 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:03,600 Speaker 1: it's u think about your goal and remind yourself of 820 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 1: your training and that you're so beyond capable, you have prepared, 821 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,560 Speaker 1: and that this is fun. It really is. It should 822 00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:16,000 Speaker 1: be fun and to go f stuff up. That's what 823 00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:19,520 Speaker 1: I said, go f stuff up. That's amazing, that's amazing. 824 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:20,440 Speaker 4: Yeah. 825 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,680 Speaker 3: Well, Sheelaine, thank you so much for coming here and 826 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:24,480 Speaker 3: hanging out with me and us today. 827 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,200 Speaker 2: Let's give it up for Selaine Flan again. 828 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:26,879 Speaker 4: Thank you. 829 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:30,959 Speaker 2: Have an amazing run. 830 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:32,279 Speaker 3: For those of you that are going to be out 831 00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,319 Speaker 3: there tomorrow, I will see you on the course. I'm 832 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,760 Speaker 3: running as well, and as I say on the show, 833 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:38,560 Speaker 3: another hurdle conquered. 834 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:39,799 Speaker 2: Catch you guys next time.