WEBVTT - Samantha Bee: Not Holding Back 0:00:05.680 --> 0:00:08.119 I love autumn in New York. I love autumn all 0:00:08.200 --> 0:00:11.559 over the place because I love the Christmas of the air, 0:00:11.760 --> 0:00:15.360 the cerulean blue sky, I love the leads changing colors 0:00:17.000 --> 0:00:25.680 autumn in New York. But anyway, I am really excited 0:00:25.720 --> 0:00:28.640 this autumn. But it's for a different reason. I'm excited 0:00:28.720 --> 0:00:31.560 because it means the election is just around the corner, 0:00:31.800 --> 0:00:33.960 and it couldn't come soon enough. I want an advent 0:00:34.080 --> 0:00:37.760 calendar marking off the days until November eight because I'm 0:00:37.800 --> 0:00:40.040 so sick of it. I'm actually going to be sad 0:00:40.040 --> 0:00:43.319 when seriously, what is it, What's going to fill this 0:00:43.400 --> 0:00:46.040 hole in my life? That's true, I mean I do 0:00:46.200 --> 0:00:49.160 wonder what will the media cover, What will I talk 0:00:49.159 --> 0:00:51.440 about at dinner? What will I talk about in the 0:00:51.440 --> 0:00:54.200 morning when I wake up and look at my iPhone 0:00:54.240 --> 0:00:58.160 and tell my husband John the latest, greatest, craziest stuff 0:00:58.200 --> 0:01:01.560 that's going down. All these things leave you scratching your head. 0:01:01.640 --> 0:01:04.280 It's enough to make you cry or laugh. If you're 0:01:04.280 --> 0:01:08.479 watching late night television, and if you've been watching Samantha 0:01:08.560 --> 0:01:12.840 b lately, you've been laughing a lot. I've said some 0:01:12.920 --> 0:01:16.520 foolish things, but there's a big difference between the words 0:01:16.560 --> 0:01:21.039 and actions of other people. Bill Clinton has actually abused women. 0:01:21.319 --> 0:01:24.480 Stop Jesus Christ, Donald, who is advising you on how 0:01:24.560 --> 0:01:28.080 to deal with your misogyny crisis. Let's also remember that 0:01:28.240 --> 0:01:30.479 one of the men who are is advising Donald Cruck 0:01:31.200 --> 0:01:37.000 is Roger Ales. Of course, Roger Ales of the Esteemed 0:01:37.120 --> 0:01:43.280 pr Firm Ales Cosby Polanskian Gift. They're good. I hear 0:01:43.319 --> 0:01:45.760 they've got a friend on the move over. Boys, we 0:01:45.880 --> 0:01:49.120 got we got some estrogen in town. Do you want 0:01:49.120 --> 0:01:51.280 me to call Samantha or Sam? I like, whatever I 0:01:51.520 --> 0:01:54.880 Sammy b I like, whatever falls out of your mouth 0:01:54.880 --> 0:01:59.520 and feels natural is what we will establish. Sam. That's perfect, Sam, 0:01:59.520 --> 0:02:03.600 I am it um So. I mean, you start this 0:02:03.640 --> 0:02:09.240 show and this gift from God descends, and Donald Trump 0:02:09.400 --> 0:02:14.120 I think he describes himself that way too. God. It's 0:02:14.240 --> 0:02:17.120 very spot on. I know they were all gifts though. 0:02:17.160 --> 0:02:20.280 I mean, the primaries were amazing. There were some amazing 0:02:20.400 --> 0:02:22.560 characters in that, and then when they couldn't find their 0:02:22.560 --> 0:02:25.120 way to their like turns, I mean, there were just 0:02:25.160 --> 0:02:28.720 so many great moments with all of those guys. I 0:02:28.760 --> 0:02:31.240 want to talk about sort of how you've approached this 0:02:31.320 --> 0:02:35.000 whole insane period of time. But first I want people 0:02:35.040 --> 0:02:38.480 to know a little bit about you. Okay, tell us 0:02:38.480 --> 0:02:42.080 how you got into this crazy business of comedy. Um. 0:02:42.320 --> 0:02:46.360 I started doing comedy in Toronto. I started doing sketch comedy. 0:02:46.400 --> 0:02:48.960 Actually with a woman who is on the show now, 0:02:49.160 --> 0:02:52.400 Atlanta Harkin, and two other of our very very good friends. 0:02:52.440 --> 0:02:55.400 We um, we did sketch comedy. I mean we did it. 0:02:55.520 --> 0:02:58.280 We didn't get paid for it. We just loved doing comedy, 0:02:58.360 --> 0:03:02.440 writing comedy, performing on disgusting stages in the backs of 0:03:02.480 --> 0:03:04.880 bars and so. And I came to it, I think 0:03:04.919 --> 0:03:06.680 fairly late in life. I was in my late twenties 0:03:06.680 --> 0:03:08.680 when I first started doing it, and it took a 0:03:08.680 --> 0:03:11.120 lot of encouragement from other people for me to even start. 0:03:11.200 --> 0:03:13.400 It wasn't like in my blood or anything. But how 0:03:13.520 --> 0:03:14.920 could it not be? In your book? Is you are 0:03:14.960 --> 0:03:18.200 so funny? Were you the class clown? Growing? I'm so quiet. 0:03:18.480 --> 0:03:20.640 I know it doesn't seem like I'm very quiet, but 0:03:20.720 --> 0:03:25.160 really I'm very pretty retiring person. Like I don't actually 0:03:25.200 --> 0:03:28.280 like to be the spotlight except for twenty one minutes 0:03:28.360 --> 0:03:30.720 per week. I really enjoy it and then it is 0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:35.400 completely out of my system. So in life, fairly shy always, 0:03:35.520 --> 0:03:38.320 you know, writing and working. There was a period, a 0:03:38.320 --> 0:03:40.960 brief couple of years period where I was a hoodlum 0:03:41.280 --> 0:03:43.800 when my teenage years and I worked it out of 0:03:43.800 --> 0:03:47.240 my system. Those were your James Dean James I did. 0:03:47.280 --> 0:03:49.920 I had those, but they were short lived. Thanking us. 0:03:50.120 --> 0:03:52.360 And you've got a job working, I mean down the 0:03:52.440 --> 0:03:55.440 road on the Daily Show, which must have been sort 0:03:55.480 --> 0:03:58.160 of the motherload at the time when you got hired. 0:03:58.200 --> 0:04:00.480 Did you realize what a juggernaut that was going to be? 0:04:01.280 --> 0:04:03.800 It was already a juggernaut to me, it was my 0:04:04.040 --> 0:04:07.520 I loved the Daily Show like I adored it. I 0:04:07.520 --> 0:04:09.960 had a special I almost had a special room in 0:04:10.040 --> 0:04:12.080 my house that was a watching room, you know, we 0:04:12.160 --> 0:04:15.760 got it was really the only show that my husband 0:04:15.760 --> 0:04:18.960 and I really were very dedicated to, and we watched 0:04:18.960 --> 0:04:21.800 it every night it aired in Canada, so I watched 0:04:21.800 --> 0:04:24.239 it even in the years when it wasn't it didn't 0:04:24.279 --> 0:04:28.800 have that feeling of great importance. Um, I still loved it. 0:04:28.920 --> 0:04:31.160 I mean I really loved it. And so even getting 0:04:31.200 --> 0:04:33.160 in the chance to audition for that show was so 0:04:33.240 --> 0:04:37.359 meaningful to me. I it was unthinkable, really to be 0:04:37.440 --> 0:04:39.560 living in Canada an audition for a U S show 0:04:40.040 --> 0:04:42.000 and did did you have a good audition? Did you 0:04:42.000 --> 0:04:46.320 feel good? I felt great about it. I trained for 0:04:46.360 --> 0:04:48.200 it really hard. I meant it meant more to me 0:04:48.240 --> 0:04:52.680 than any other experience of that nature ever. And you've 0:04:52.680 --> 0:04:56.080 got such a unique voice that is so welcome for 0:04:56.120 --> 0:04:58.360 me and so many other people in this late night 0:04:58.440 --> 0:05:02.680 landscape just have someone with boobs making fun of saying 0:05:02.680 --> 0:05:07.240 appreciate it. So let's so let's hear a little taste 0:05:07.279 --> 0:05:09.880 of the humor that you honed on the Daily Show. 0:05:10.040 --> 0:05:13.200 Let's listen to this bit from two thousand four. Have 0:05:13.320 --> 0:05:15.760 you had your picture taken with a black person yet? Well? 0:05:15.839 --> 0:05:18.680 I don't think so, but I wouldn't mind doing that. 0:05:18.680 --> 0:05:21.640 That's something you'd be willing to try. Why, there's plenty 0:05:21.680 --> 0:05:24.040 of them, I know. Do you have any of them 0:05:24.040 --> 0:05:27.320 in Montana? You don't? You know you don't have any? Uh? 0:05:27.600 --> 0:05:30.279 In fact, I guess our creds were pretty old before. 0:05:31.400 --> 0:05:33.880 I do love when you go out in the field, 0:05:34.120 --> 0:05:39.120 as we journalists say, and talked to real people. That 0:05:39.240 --> 0:05:41.760 was tell us about that skit for people want to 0:05:41.760 --> 0:05:44.599 be reminded. That was at the r n C in 0:05:44.640 --> 0:05:47.840 two thousand four. Um, we were. That was really my 0:05:48.040 --> 0:05:51.159 first convention. That was my first convention. It was really 0:05:51.200 --> 0:05:53.279 it was a free for all. We just went out 0:05:53.320 --> 0:05:55.960 with cameras and just started asking questions. And that was 0:05:56.000 --> 0:05:58.719 here York at Madison Square. Guards it was and that 0:05:58.880 --> 0:06:02.320 lovely man he was quite such a nice man, a 0:06:02.360 --> 0:06:06.760 delegate from Montana who was unfamiliar with the way the 0:06:06.800 --> 0:06:08.800 world works. Now, did you ever feel bad? Did you 0:06:08.839 --> 0:06:10.839 feel like you were sort of making fun of people 0:06:10.880 --> 0:06:14.479 who didn't necessarily deserve to be mocked? Well, I think, 0:06:14.600 --> 0:06:18.800 you know, through the years, I've definitely done that. I 0:06:18.880 --> 0:06:22.880 don't really I don't really do that anymore, you know, 0:06:23.120 --> 0:06:26.880 I think my position on that evolved over time. When 0:06:26.880 --> 0:06:29.719 it comes to figuring out the tone and the material 0:06:29.800 --> 0:06:32.520 you're picking, I mean, I guess take us behind the curtain, 0:06:32.560 --> 0:06:34.640 Sam a little bit and tell us the process that 0:06:34.720 --> 0:06:36.919 you go through for each show and how do you 0:06:36.960 --> 0:06:41.000 put it together. You know, we have our staff is incredible, 0:06:41.080 --> 0:06:43.800 and our research teams and our field department and our 0:06:43.880 --> 0:06:47.120 writers and everybody. It is a really I think it's 0:06:47.160 --> 0:06:49.920 a very free forum for people to pitch their ideas 0:06:49.920 --> 0:06:53.599 and thoughts about UM. Joe and I Joe Miller she's 0:06:53.640 --> 0:06:56.360 the show runner of the show. She has her things 0:06:56.400 --> 0:06:58.680 that she's passionate about. I have things that I'm passionate about. 0:06:58.760 --> 0:07:04.320 Together we create can the template for a show. It's 0:07:04.360 --> 0:07:06.720 the stories that we read or think about that just 0:07:07.520 --> 0:07:09.320 you know, there's something that just happens where you just 0:07:09.440 --> 0:07:11.200 know it's a story that you can tell that you 0:07:11.240 --> 0:07:14.080 want to tell immediately. We're really kind of running the 0:07:14.080 --> 0:07:18.240 show on a very gut level, which I think is why. 0:07:18.280 --> 0:07:22.440 That's why we're enjoying the experience for sure. And your 0:07:22.440 --> 0:07:25.360 show now is very different, obviously from the Daily Show. 0:07:25.400 --> 0:07:28.160 It's once a week, it's not every night. You're not 0:07:28.200 --> 0:07:32.000 playing a character anymore. You're not the fake news correspondent. 0:07:32.320 --> 0:07:33.880 I don't even know what to call myself anymo. I 0:07:33.920 --> 0:07:36.360 don't even know what I don't feel like creating a 0:07:36.400 --> 0:07:40.840 new category if you performer now? Is that is that liberating? Scary? 0:07:40.960 --> 0:07:42.800 Some combination of the two. To have to have your 0:07:42.800 --> 0:07:45.400 own sort of point of view about this, it's really liberating. 0:07:45.440 --> 0:07:47.880 I don't find it scary at all. I mean, you 0:07:47.920 --> 0:07:51.240 have to know, you have to know yourself, that's for sure, 0:07:51.520 --> 0:07:54.240 because you know, if you don't want to do something 0:07:54.720 --> 0:07:57.680 in which your opinion waivers or you're unsure. So you 0:07:57.760 --> 0:08:01.440 have to be pretty solidly of a mindset about something 0:08:01.560 --> 0:08:03.320 in order for it to you know, in order for 0:08:03.320 --> 0:08:05.240 it to resonate as a piece as well. So I 0:08:05.240 --> 0:08:09.600 think that makes sense. And certainly, um, I love doing 0:08:09.640 --> 0:08:12.880 field stuff. It's my you know, it's it's what I 0:08:12.880 --> 0:08:16.160 cut my teeth on. So if we were on more 0:08:16.200 --> 0:08:17.840 than once a week, we wouldn't be able to do that. 0:08:18.000 --> 0:08:21.160 So when your show launched earlier this year, you had 0:08:21.160 --> 0:08:24.800 a great tagline which was watch or your Sexiest. Loved 0:08:24.800 --> 0:08:26.640 it so much and so sad that we have to 0:08:26.680 --> 0:08:29.240 retire it, And I didn't think we don't. I don't 0:08:29.240 --> 0:08:32.400 think you need to best And you are the only 0:08:32.440 --> 0:08:35.120 woman in late night TV. I mean you're not the 0:08:35.160 --> 0:08:38.680 only woman in streaming if one count that, but in 0:08:38.800 --> 0:08:41.360 terms of a late night TV, and do you feel 0:08:41.360 --> 0:08:44.000 a special more late night adjacent and we are on 0:08:44.040 --> 0:08:47.800 it in thirty were kind of get lumped into it, 0:08:47.840 --> 0:08:49.520 but we're not. I have a new kid that's very 0:08:49.600 --> 0:08:53.120 late night for me actually, So do you feel a 0:08:53.120 --> 0:08:57.360 special obligation or responsibility as the only woman or do 0:08:57.400 --> 0:08:59.480 you just you want to make people laugh? No? I 0:08:59.480 --> 0:09:02.599 don't feel I should. I guess I I guess I 0:09:02.600 --> 0:09:05.960 should feel that obligation, but I actually don't, and I 0:09:05.960 --> 0:09:08.599 I think that's a good thing because you know, we 0:09:08.679 --> 0:09:10.520 have to keep it a little bit small. You actually 0:09:10.559 --> 0:09:14.440 have to keep it very too to give yourself freedom. 0:09:14.600 --> 0:09:17.199 You can't think too much about how you're perceived in 0:09:17.240 --> 0:09:19.960 the outside world. You can't be obsessed with it because 0:09:20.040 --> 0:09:24.320 it's it's really paralyzing. Like if you thought, you know, 0:09:24.360 --> 0:09:29.960 the moment that you create creative content through committee, it's 0:09:30.000 --> 0:09:32.440 it's very it's difficult to make a pure product, and 0:09:32.480 --> 0:09:35.480 it's so I keep it very tight. And it's helpful 0:09:35.559 --> 0:09:37.600 actually that I have three little kids at home, because 0:09:38.720 --> 0:09:40.960 it limits the amount that I can crawl up my 0:09:40.960 --> 0:09:44.000 own ass about things. To be honest, like, it keeps 0:09:44.920 --> 0:09:48.720 it's really less nice, right, um, but you know you can't. 0:09:48.720 --> 0:09:51.960 I guess it limits the amount that I can overthink 0:09:52.000 --> 0:09:54.160 things because there's just too much going on. You know, 0:09:54.200 --> 0:09:57.120 work is work, home time is family time, and so 0:09:57.200 --> 0:10:00.360 there's no there'sn't a lot of space to get to 0:10:00.640 --> 0:10:04.200 self indulgence or reflective. You have three kids, as you said, 0:10:04.240 --> 0:10:06.760 do you do you let your kids watch watch this stuff? 0:10:06.760 --> 0:10:09.920 Do you talk about it? Oh, we do talk about it. 0:10:10.000 --> 0:10:12.280 I mean they're pretty young, they're ten and younger, so 0:10:12.360 --> 0:10:14.680 they don't have a real handle on it. You know, 0:10:14.720 --> 0:10:16.920 we listened to NPR in the morning, so they hear it. 0:10:17.200 --> 0:10:20.160 They definitely know what the tone is. And they were 0:10:20.640 --> 0:10:22.920 definitely wanted to watch the last debate and I let 0:10:22.960 --> 0:10:26.120 them do it, and they stayed up for the whole thing, 0:10:26.160 --> 0:10:28.440 which I think is a remarkable feat for three little kids. 0:10:28.440 --> 0:10:32.120 So you explain that to them, they you know, they 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:36.360 have a they do. Things seep in the right things 0:10:36.600 --> 0:10:39.640 seep into them. They they're not a fan of course 0:10:39.720 --> 0:10:44.000 language at all. If they catch my husband or myself 0:10:44.120 --> 0:10:47.120 using it, they are incredibly disappointed in us. So you 0:10:47.200 --> 0:10:49.360 have a cursed jar. We have to put a dollar in. 0:10:49.679 --> 0:10:52.800 Not quite, but they are truly horrified by it. So 0:10:53.280 --> 0:10:56.560 they mostly remember the Anthony Weiner story from a couple 0:10:56.559 --> 0:11:01.280 of years ago that was hilarious. And know, without explaining 0:11:01.320 --> 0:11:03.720 to them, they completely understood that. So they have a 0:11:03.800 --> 0:11:08.640 much greater understanding. Wasn't super complicated, do you? How do 0:11:08.679 --> 0:11:14.280 you explain though, Donald Trump's language, persona and sort of 0:11:14.320 --> 0:11:16.960 the way he's conducted himself to your kids. You know, 0:11:17.440 --> 0:11:19.400 to be honest with you, I haven't had to explain it. 0:11:19.520 --> 0:11:21.880 They understand who he is. They've been drawing pictures of 0:11:21.960 --> 0:11:25.840 him speaking for months, I mean, since the beginning of 0:11:25.840 --> 0:11:28.400 the primary process. They've had their own impressions of him, 0:11:28.400 --> 0:11:31.200 and I let those I just let those those stand. 0:11:32.000 --> 0:11:33.880 So we're going to take a quick break and be 0:11:34.040 --> 0:11:44.520 right back with more of Sam b. Before we get 0:11:44.520 --> 0:11:46.440 back to the interview, we just wanted to say how 0:11:46.520 --> 0:11:48.960 much we appreciate all the reviews that you guys have 0:11:49.120 --> 0:11:52.000 left on iTunes, and in fact, Katie and I wanted 0:11:52.040 --> 0:11:55.720 to read a few that we've found particularly edifying or amusing. 0:11:56.080 --> 0:11:58.840 Simply Smart wrote love this podcast. It's got all the 0:11:58.960 --> 0:12:01.520 ingredients to keep me sucking the list and downloading with 0:12:01.559 --> 0:12:06.120 each new entry. Katie is likable, wasn't a fan. I 0:12:06.200 --> 0:12:09.800 am now thank you, Simply Smart. You're not as smart 0:12:09.840 --> 0:12:13.679 as I thought you were, but thank you for the kudos. 0:12:13.840 --> 0:12:16.760 And just to show this isn't pure propaganda, w J 0:12:17.040 --> 0:12:21.000 v j R. Says content is engaging, but there's no 0:12:21.080 --> 0:12:24.520 need for a legit journalist to casually swear. On the 0:12:24.559 --> 0:12:27.839 other hand, I like her impromptu bursts of singing with it. 0:12:28.000 --> 0:12:30.920 Cat wrote this is up there with this American Life 0:12:31.040 --> 0:12:33.480 and Death, Sex and Money as one of my can't 0:12:33.520 --> 0:12:37.400 wait for a new episode podcast highly recommended with the cat, 0:12:37.440 --> 0:12:39.760 thank you very much. I love those podcasts as well, 0:12:39.840 --> 0:12:42.680 so that puts us in very good company. And we're 0:12:42.720 --> 0:12:46.360 really appreciative that you're liking this. Thank you for taking 0:12:46.360 --> 0:12:49.079 the time to review our show, and we'd be grateful 0:12:49.160 --> 0:12:51.560 if more of you did the same, especially if you 0:12:51.679 --> 0:13:02.680 like it. We're back with Sam be Hi, Sam bry Kate. 0:13:03.920 --> 0:13:07.160 So we've got some listener questions. People actually took the 0:13:07.200 --> 0:13:10.280 time to call in and leave a voicemail for you. 0:13:10.640 --> 0:13:15.480 That's very sweet. Thank you so much, So let's listen. Hi. 0:13:15.760 --> 0:13:18.440 My name is Morgan Easterly, and I have a question 0:13:18.640 --> 0:13:24.760 for Sam b. I love full frontal, and I love 0:13:24.840 --> 0:13:32.080 that you attack women's issues with such beautiful ferocity. So 0:13:32.160 --> 0:13:38.079 my question is do you feel alone in the way 0:13:38.080 --> 0:13:42.800 that you choose to fully take these women's issues on 0:13:42.920 --> 0:13:45.400 with the power, with the intent that they deserve to 0:13:45.400 --> 0:13:48.280 be taken on or do you feel like other people 0:13:48.320 --> 0:13:50.480 are championing these things the same way that you are. 0:13:51.120 --> 0:13:54.800 That's so interest, that's a great question, you know. I 0:13:55.400 --> 0:14:00.320 don't feel I don't feel alone. I understand that, you know, 0:14:00.360 --> 0:14:01.760 a lot of the issues that we talked about on 0:14:01.760 --> 0:14:06.480 the show aren't being really attacked satirically, but people are 0:14:06.520 --> 0:14:10.720 doing people are working so diligently on these issues. We 0:14:10.760 --> 0:14:13.120 did something about we did a story about the rape 0:14:13.160 --> 0:14:18.360 kit backlog, and um, you know, I think it helped. 0:14:18.400 --> 0:14:21.040 It certainly helped to push a little piece of closing 0:14:21.240 --> 0:14:24.760 a loophole, kind of pushed a little piece of legislation forward. 0:14:24.800 --> 0:14:27.760 I think it brought attention to the issue and maybe 0:14:28.160 --> 0:14:32.240 helped move things a little bit more quickly. But and then, um, 0:14:32.400 --> 0:14:34.760 people were very quick to think that we would take 0:14:34.800 --> 0:14:37.760 responsibility for it. And I really want to make sure 0:14:37.800 --> 0:14:41.120 everybody knows that there are people, hundreds and hundreds of 0:14:41.160 --> 0:14:45.960 people and attorneys and activists and people who like Marsica 0:14:46.040 --> 0:14:49.800 Hearket has been working on that issue for a long time, long, long, long, 0:14:49.840 --> 0:14:52.640 long time. It's not just you know, one little comedy 0:14:52.640 --> 0:14:59.600 show doesn't really quite push things. It's only everything is 0:15:00.240 --> 0:15:03.560 show can besolves with the riot ratio of celebrities. Kim 0:15:03.640 --> 0:15:06.320 Kardashian no is does it sound like her a little 0:15:06.360 --> 0:15:09.880 bit to me? On the other hand, though, you know, 0:15:09.960 --> 0:15:11.880 you get on you know, you talk about an issue 0:15:11.920 --> 0:15:13.800 on a show like yours, and it does have the 0:15:13.920 --> 0:15:17.160 ability to permeate, you know, in a way that a 0:15:17.160 --> 0:15:20.760 news story doesn't. There's something about it that really connects 0:15:20.800 --> 0:15:22.920 the audience to the cause. And I think you did 0:15:23.000 --> 0:15:26.960 that so beautifully with the Syrian refugee crisis, because I 0:15:26.960 --> 0:15:29.520 feel like there's so much out in the ether. I 0:15:29.560 --> 0:15:33.520 think that becomes a mantra for people, especially depending on 0:15:33.560 --> 0:15:37.280 their news source, and nobody is able to say, whoa, whoa, whoa. 0:15:37.320 --> 0:15:40.160 Wait a minute, let's give it some context. And I 0:15:40.200 --> 0:15:42.840 think that's what you did with the Syrian refugee crisis. 0:15:43.040 --> 0:15:45.320 Tell us about your thinking behind that and why you 0:15:45.360 --> 0:15:48.400 wanted to cover it that way. Well, I have to 0:15:48.440 --> 0:15:52.880 say that the refugee crisis, I can't even explain why, 0:15:52.960 --> 0:15:55.480 but it is a matter that is so close to 0:15:55.520 --> 0:15:57.680 my heart. I think about it a lot. I think 0:15:57.680 --> 0:16:01.240 about how, you know, if ways to tell more stories, 0:16:01.320 --> 0:16:04.440 ways to bring more attention to it. So, you know, 0:16:04.600 --> 0:16:06.680 with the show, we had the opportunity to go to 0:16:06.760 --> 0:16:09.720 Jordan's and meet with refugees, and I think any opportunity 0:16:09.760 --> 0:16:13.040 that you can take to to humanize people is a 0:16:13.200 --> 0:16:16.720 great opportunity. Where did you do the interview, sam where 0:16:16.760 --> 0:16:19.640 you talked to the refugees and you were teaching them 0:16:19.680 --> 0:16:22.720 funny like words like gluten free. Oh yeah, that was 0:16:22.840 --> 0:16:25.480 in Jordan's. They were um all of those, all of 0:16:25.520 --> 0:16:27.440 the people in that program. That was the last the 0:16:27.520 --> 0:16:32.360 last stage of your of the vetting process is trying 0:16:32.400 --> 0:16:34.640 to acclimatize them to life in the United States, trying 0:16:34.640 --> 0:16:35.960 to teach them a little bit. They have to pass 0:16:36.000 --> 0:16:37.880 a course right at the end, so they've gone through 0:16:37.960 --> 0:16:41.280 all of these safety checks and security checks and background 0:16:41.360 --> 0:16:44.120 checks and physical and health checks and all of these 0:16:44.160 --> 0:16:45.960 different things, and then right at the end they have 0:16:46.040 --> 0:16:49.080 to take a course for a couple of weeks on 0:16:49.360 --> 0:16:53.800 American culture. So I happily took over the class that 0:16:53.840 --> 0:16:57.880 no one asked me to take over. In America, people 0:16:58.040 --> 0:17:03.680 wear sweatpants all the time. Important take notes. Can you 0:17:03.720 --> 0:17:09.240 wear sweatpants to your own wedding? Yes you can. Those 0:17:09.240 --> 0:17:12.080 are forms pants. You have to buy them at Jake Crew. 0:17:12.880 --> 0:17:15.399 But it's such a place of at the resettlement place 0:17:15.800 --> 0:17:20.160 in Jordan's, it's a happy place. Everybody's on their way somewhere. 0:17:20.359 --> 0:17:22.960 You know, families are kind of getting together and they're 0:17:23.119 --> 0:17:27.320 going it's it's mysterious and it's scary, but it's also hopeful. 0:17:28.200 --> 0:17:31.240 You know, everybody listen in their dreams, everybody wants to 0:17:31.240 --> 0:17:34.040 go back to their home in Syria and live the 0:17:34.080 --> 0:17:36.840 life that they were living before the war. But it's 0:17:36.840 --> 0:17:40.560 not possible. So why not try Chicago? And what's your 0:17:40.640 --> 0:17:43.879 view of Donald Trump making the Syrian refugees a big 0:17:43.920 --> 0:17:47.040 political issue? I mean, his son actually tweeted, as you 0:17:47.080 --> 0:17:50.560 know that if you have a bowl of skittles and 0:17:50.680 --> 0:17:53.000 one or two of the skittles could kill you, would 0:17:53.040 --> 0:17:56.200 you take a handful of skittles? Ergo, we shouldn't take 0:17:56.200 --> 0:18:00.840 a handful of refugees. I think it's appalling. I think 0:18:00.880 --> 0:18:09.200 it's they're just quite literally feeding people the worst, most vicious, 0:18:09.480 --> 0:18:16.040 toxic misinformation there. These are human beings, they are vetted, 0:18:16.600 --> 0:18:22.480 They are literally spreading lies. I find it reprehensible. It's 0:18:22.720 --> 0:18:28.080 absolutely anti Christian, anti American values. It's everything that is 0:18:28.119 --> 0:18:31.479 wrong with the world that we live in. Is that 0:18:31.560 --> 0:18:36.000 kind of feeling of us in them is so destructive 0:18:36.200 --> 0:18:39.000 it actually makes me feel physically sick. Well, that's actually 0:18:39.000 --> 0:18:41.320 a pretty good segue to one question. I wanted to 0:18:41.320 --> 0:18:44.440 ask you which is Perusing some articles about you, one 0:18:44.560 --> 0:18:54.919 word keeps coming up, which is anger? You mean hot, sensual, sizzling. 0:18:55.680 --> 0:18:58.400 I wanted to focus on the more intellectual word, sure 0:18:58.920 --> 0:19:02.119 to how I time this use angry white females? A 0:19:02.200 --> 0:19:05.760 headline Atlantic did a piece the Anger of Samantha b 0:19:06.440 --> 0:19:11.560 rolling Stone called you outraged? Are you really that piste off? Well, 0:19:12.320 --> 0:19:17.439 here's the deal, Like, well, I mean yeah, yes and no. 0:19:17.840 --> 0:19:20.720 I mean I think we can all summon our outrage 0:19:20.800 --> 0:19:25.160 on specific stories. I don't stalk the earth like an 0:19:25.160 --> 0:19:29.640 outraged anger demon. I have a very level headed approach 0:19:29.680 --> 0:19:32.600 to life and living. Um, you know, we have to 0:19:32.760 --> 0:19:36.560 summon outrage to make the show. We have to tap 0:19:36.600 --> 0:19:38.840 into that to make a show about things that we 0:19:38.880 --> 0:19:42.639 feel passionately about. Um, we tap into that to make 0:19:42.680 --> 0:19:46.000 the show. But we live our lives as normal human beings. 0:19:46.040 --> 0:19:48.600 But it must feel good to be able to express 0:19:48.680 --> 0:19:51.359 that anger. You know, one of these articles talked about 0:19:51.440 --> 0:19:54.920 you know, there was a time where women wouldn't feel 0:19:54.920 --> 0:19:58.760 comfortable expressing their anger. So in a way, this is 0:19:58.800 --> 0:20:02.680 a real This is real progress for women. Great good. 0:20:02.960 --> 0:20:06.480 We should be free to speak our emotions like you know, 0:20:06.600 --> 0:20:09.919 I'm I'm turning forty seven next week, actually, happy birthday, 0:20:09.960 --> 0:20:13.280 and thank you, and I'm just beyond I'm just done 0:20:13.320 --> 0:20:16.919 with it. You know. It's actually very helpful, and I 0:20:16.920 --> 0:20:21.000 think that our experience is unique in television, you know, 0:20:21.200 --> 0:20:23.040 Joe and I we laugh about this all the time 0:20:23.080 --> 0:20:25.960 because we're both in our late forties and we just 0:20:26.000 --> 0:20:30.200 don't care anymore. Our ambitions, Like this is our ambition 0:20:30.200 --> 0:20:33.920 and television, we're we're living it right now, so there's 0:20:33.960 --> 0:20:37.800 no future prospect that we have to be careful about. 0:20:37.840 --> 0:20:41.200 Although for Hillary Clinton, you know, it's still a big problem, 0:20:41.240 --> 0:20:45.040 you know, giving her permission to be honest. We have 0:20:45.119 --> 0:20:48.440 a clip about her first debate performance from the show 0:20:48.520 --> 0:20:50.480 Let's Listen. What she needs to do is provide the 0:20:50.520 --> 0:20:54.280 substance with the entertainment. Come away enjoying it. Be a 0:20:54.320 --> 0:20:57.359 happy warrior, enjoy what you're doing, you know, have a 0:20:57.400 --> 0:21:01.000 little lightheartedness, show some humor, so be perfect, but not 0:21:01.119 --> 0:21:04.240 too perfect. Save us from fascism, but like, don't be 0:21:04.280 --> 0:21:08.720 a bit about it. No one was suggesting superficial changes 0:21:08.760 --> 0:21:11.760 for Trump, like try wearing a suit that actually fits, 0:21:11.880 --> 0:21:16.240 or embrace your baldness proudly, or don't snort your way 0:21:16.280 --> 0:21:19.639 through the debate like Jean Pierre's prize trouble pick. But 0:21:19.760 --> 0:21:21.960 you have to feel for Hillary Clinton in some ways, 0:21:22.000 --> 0:21:24.919 don't you. Sam. It's a very it's very interesting to 0:21:25.160 --> 0:21:27.719 live life and see this election through the prism of 0:21:27.760 --> 0:21:30.080 having grown up a woman. You know, it is hard 0:21:30.119 --> 0:21:33.320 to explain that when you are a woman. Usually, I 0:21:33.320 --> 0:21:35.439 mean from the moment you're born, you're kind of told 0:21:35.480 --> 0:21:38.480 how to how to look, what is pleasing, how to 0:21:38.520 --> 0:21:41.159 be a people pleaser, how to be agreeable, how to 0:21:41.240 --> 0:21:45.200 make people at ease with you. It's hard to learn 0:21:45.359 --> 0:21:47.040 as a woman. It was hard for me to learn 0:21:47.200 --> 0:21:50.240 to stop being a people pleaser. I still learned that 0:21:50.320 --> 0:21:52.200 lesson all the time. It's hard for me to say 0:21:52.240 --> 0:21:56.680 no to people. But eventually you learn it, and then 0:21:56.680 --> 0:21:58.879 you can't take it anymore. You have to explain to 0:21:58.880 --> 0:22:00.600 people that when you're a woman and then you walk 0:22:00.680 --> 0:22:02.840 the planet, people tell you to smile all the time, 0:22:02.920 --> 0:22:06.199 they tell you how to look. You're constantly confronted with 0:22:06.240 --> 0:22:10.360 people's expectations, whether you're falling short of them or you're 0:22:10.400 --> 0:22:13.920 exceeding them, you're constantly told about it. You know, we're 0:22:14.280 --> 0:22:18.720 so everybody's so conscious and aware of it all the time. 0:22:18.760 --> 0:22:21.800 It's nice to feel free to just throw off those 0:22:21.800 --> 0:22:23.919 shackles and do the show we want to do. I 0:22:23.920 --> 0:22:28.680 think that's one reason SNL that Kate mckennon's character, sure whatever, 0:22:28.880 --> 0:22:31.679 it's really great of Hillary is so funny because you 0:22:31.760 --> 0:22:35.640 do sort of see that public private conflict and they 0:22:35.680 --> 0:22:38.720 should do something if she's elected. Of her first day 0:22:38.720 --> 0:22:41.120 at the White House where she just you know, talk 0:22:41.200 --> 0:22:44.840