Speaker 1: I love autumn in New York. I love autumn all
Speaker 1: over the place because I love the Christmas of the air,
Speaker 1: the cerulean blue sky, I love the leads changing colors
Speaker 1: autumn in New York. But anyway, I am really excited
Speaker 1: this autumn. But it's for a different reason. I'm excited
Speaker 1: because it means the election is just around the corner,
Speaker 1: and it couldn't come soon enough. I want an advent
Speaker 1: calendar marking off the days until November eight because I'm
Speaker 1: so sick of it. I'm actually going to be sad
Speaker 1: when seriously, what is it, What's going to fill this
Speaker 1: hole in my life? That's true, I mean I do
Speaker 1: wonder what will the media cover, What will I talk
Speaker 1: about at dinner? What will I talk about in the
Speaker 1: morning when I wake up and look at my iPhone
Speaker 1: and tell my husband John the latest, greatest, craziest stuff
Speaker 1: that's going down. All these things leave you scratching your head.
Speaker 1: It's enough to make you cry or laugh. If you're
Speaker 1: watching late night television, and if you've been watching Samantha
Speaker 1: b lately, you've been laughing a lot. I've said some
Speaker 1: foolish things, but there's a big difference between the words
Speaker 1: and actions of other people. Bill Clinton has actually abused women.
Speaker 1: Stop Jesus Christ, Donald, who is advising you on how
Speaker 1: to deal with your misogyny crisis. Let's also remember that
Speaker 1: one of the men who are is advising Donald Cruck
Speaker 1: is Roger Ales. Of course, Roger Ales of the Esteemed
Speaker 1: pr Firm Ales Cosby Polanskian Gift. They're good. I hear
Speaker 1: they've got a friend on the move over. Boys, we
Speaker 1: got we got some estrogen in town. Do you want
Speaker 1: me to call Samantha or Sam? I like, whatever I
Speaker 1: Sammy b I like, whatever falls out of your mouth
Speaker 1: and feels natural is what we will establish. Sam. That's perfect, Sam,
Speaker 1: I am it um So. I mean, you start this
Speaker 1: show and this gift from God descends, and Donald Trump
Speaker 1: I think he describes himself that way too. God. It's
Speaker 1: very spot on. I know they were all gifts though.
Speaker 1: I mean, the primaries were amazing. There were some amazing
Speaker 1: characters in that, and then when they couldn't find their
Speaker 1: way to their like turns, I mean, there were just
Speaker 1: so many great moments with all of those guys. I
Speaker 1: want to talk about sort of how you've approached this
Speaker 1: whole insane period of time. But first I want people
Speaker 1: to know a little bit about you. Okay, tell us
Speaker 1: how you got into this crazy business of comedy. Um.
Speaker 1: I started doing comedy in Toronto. I started doing sketch comedy.
Speaker 1: Actually with a woman who is on the show now,
Speaker 1: Atlanta Harkin, and two other of our very very good friends.
Speaker 1: We um, we did sketch comedy. I mean we did it.
Speaker 1: We didn't get paid for it. We just loved doing comedy,
Speaker 1: writing comedy, performing on disgusting stages in the backs of
Speaker 1: bars and so. And I came to it, I think
Speaker 1: fairly late in life. I was in my late twenties
Speaker 1: when I first started doing it, and it took a
Speaker 1: lot of encouragement from other people for me to even start.
Speaker 1: It wasn't like in my blood or anything. But how
Speaker 1: could it not be? In your book? Is you are
Speaker 1: so funny? Were you the class clown? Growing? I'm so quiet.
Speaker 1: I know it doesn't seem like I'm very quiet, but
Speaker 1: really I'm very pretty retiring person. Like I don't actually
Speaker 1: like to be the spotlight except for twenty one minutes
Speaker 1: per week. I really enjoy it and then it is
Speaker 1: completely out of my system. So in life, fairly shy always,
Speaker 1: you know, writing and working. There was a period, a
Speaker 1: brief couple of years period where I was a hoodlum
Speaker 1: when my teenage years and I worked it out of
Speaker 1: my system. Those were your James Dean James I did.
Speaker 1: I had those, but they were short lived. Thanking us.
Speaker 1: And you've got a job working, I mean down the
Speaker 1: road on the Daily Show, which must have been sort
Speaker 1: of the motherload at the time when you got hired.
Speaker 1: Did you realize what a juggernaut that was going to be?
Speaker 1: It was already a juggernaut to me, it was my
Speaker 1: I loved the Daily Show like I adored it. I
Speaker 1: had a special I almost had a special room in
Speaker 1: my house that was a watching room, you know, we
Speaker 1: got it was really the only show that my husband
Speaker 1: and I really were very dedicated to, and we watched
Speaker 1: it every night it aired in Canada, so I watched
Speaker 1: it even in the years when it wasn't it didn't
Speaker 1: have that feeling of great importance. Um, I still loved it.
Speaker 1: I mean I really loved it. And so even getting
Speaker 1: in the chance to audition for that show was so
Speaker 1: meaningful to me. I it was unthinkable, really to be
Speaker 1: living in Canada an audition for a U S show
Speaker 1: and did did you have a good audition? Did you
Speaker 1: feel good? I felt great about it. I trained for
Speaker 1: it really hard. I meant it meant more to me
Speaker 1: than any other experience of that nature ever. And you've
Speaker 1: got such a unique voice that is so welcome for
Speaker 1: me and so many other people in this late night
Speaker 1: landscape just have someone with boobs making fun of saying
Speaker 1: appreciate it. So let's so let's hear a little taste
Speaker 1: of the humor that you honed on the Daily Show.
Speaker 1: Let's listen to this bit from two thousand four. Have
Speaker 1: you had your picture taken with a black person yet? Well?
Speaker 1: I don't think so, but I wouldn't mind doing that.
Speaker 1: That's something you'd be willing to try. Why, there's plenty
Speaker 1: of them, I know. Do you have any of them
Speaker 1: in Montana? You don't? You know you don't have any? Uh?
Speaker 1: In fact, I guess our creds were pretty old before.
Speaker 1: I do love when you go out in the field,
Speaker 1: as we journalists say, and talked to real people. That
Speaker 1: was tell us about that skit for people want to
Speaker 1: be reminded. That was at the r n C in
Speaker 1: two thousand four. Um, we were. That was really my
Speaker 1: first convention. That was my first convention. It was really
Speaker 1: it was a free for all. We just went out
Speaker 1: with cameras and just started asking questions. And that was
Speaker 1: here York at Madison Square. Guards it was and that
Speaker 1: lovely man he was quite such a nice man, a
Speaker 1: delegate from Montana who was unfamiliar with the way the
Speaker 1: world works. Now, did you ever feel bad? Did you
Speaker 1: feel like you were sort of making fun of people
Speaker 1: who didn't necessarily deserve to be mocked? Well, I think,
Speaker 1: you know, through the years, I've definitely done that. I
Speaker 1: don't really I don't really do that anymore, you know,
Speaker 1: I think my position on that evolved over time. When
Speaker 1: it comes to figuring out the tone and the material
Speaker 1: you're picking, I mean, I guess take us behind the curtain,
Speaker 1: Sam a little bit and tell us the process that
Speaker 1: you go through for each show and how do you
Speaker 1: put it together. You know, we have our staff is incredible,
Speaker 1: and our research teams and our field department and our
Speaker 1: writers and everybody. It is a really I think it's
Speaker 1: a very free forum for people to pitch their ideas
Speaker 1: and thoughts about UM. Joe and I Joe Miller she's
Speaker 1: the show runner of the show. She has her things
Speaker 1: that she's passionate about. I have things that I'm passionate about.
Speaker 1: Together we create can the template for a show. It's
Speaker 1: the stories that we read or think about that just
Speaker 1: you know, there's something that just happens where you just
Speaker 1: know it's a story that you can tell that you
Speaker 1: want to tell immediately. We're really kind of running the
Speaker 1: show on a very gut level, which I think is why.
Speaker 1: That's why we're enjoying the experience for sure. And your
Speaker 1: show now is very different, obviously from the Daily Show.
Speaker 1: It's once a week, it's not every night. You're not
Speaker 1: playing a character anymore. You're not the fake news correspondent.
Speaker 1: I don't even know what to call myself anymo. I
Speaker 1: don't even know what I don't feel like creating a
Speaker 1: new category if you performer now? Is that is that liberating? Scary?
Speaker 1: Some combination of the two. To have to have your
Speaker 1: own sort of point of view about this, it's really liberating.
Speaker 1: I don't find it scary at all. I mean, you
Speaker 1: have to know, you have to know yourself, that's for sure,
Speaker 1: because you know, if you don't want to do something
Speaker 1: in which your opinion waivers or you're unsure. So you
Speaker 1: have to be pretty solidly of a mindset about something
Speaker 1: in order for it to you know, in order for
Speaker 1: it to resonate as a piece as well. So I
Speaker 1: think that makes sense. And certainly, um, I love doing
Speaker 1: field stuff. It's my you know, it's it's what I
Speaker 1: cut my teeth on. So if we were on more
Speaker 1: than once a week, we wouldn't be able to do that.
Speaker 1: So when your show launched earlier this year, you had
Speaker 1: a great tagline which was watch or your Sexiest. Loved
Speaker 1: it so much and so sad that we have to
Speaker 1: retire it, And I didn't think we don't. I don't
Speaker 1: think you need to best And you are the only
Speaker 1: woman in late night TV. I mean you're not the
Speaker 1: only woman in streaming if one count that, but in
Speaker 1: terms of a late night TV, and do you feel
Speaker 1: a special more late night adjacent and we are on
Speaker 1: it in thirty were kind of get lumped into it,
Speaker 1: but we're not. I have a new kid that's very
Speaker 1: late night for me actually, So do you feel a
Speaker 1: special obligation or responsibility as the only woman or do
Speaker 1: you just you want to make people laugh? No? I
Speaker 1: don't feel I should. I guess I I guess I
Speaker 1: should feel that obligation, but I actually don't, and I
Speaker 1: I think that's a good thing because you know, we
Speaker 1: have to keep it a little bit small. You actually
Speaker 1: have to keep it very too to give yourself freedom.
Speaker 1: You can't think too much about how you're perceived in
Speaker 1: the outside world. You can't be obsessed with it because
Speaker 1: it's it's really paralyzing. Like if you thought, you know,
Speaker 1: the moment that you create creative content through committee, it's
Speaker 1: it's very it's difficult to make a pure product, and
Speaker 1: it's so I keep it very tight. And it's helpful
Speaker 1: actually that I have three little kids at home, because
Speaker 1: it limits the amount that I can crawl up my
Speaker 1: own ass about things. To be honest, like, it keeps
Speaker 1: it's really less nice, right, um, but you know you can't.
Speaker 1: I guess it limits the amount that I can overthink
Speaker 1: things because there's just too much going on. You know,
Speaker 1: work is work, home time is family time, and so
Speaker 1: there's no there'sn't a lot of space to get to
Speaker 1: self indulgence or reflective. You have three kids, as you said,
Speaker 1: do you do you let your kids watch watch this stuff?
Speaker 1: Do you talk about it? Oh, we do talk about it.
Speaker 1: I mean they're pretty young, they're ten and younger, so
Speaker 1: they don't have a real handle on it. You know,
Speaker 1: we listened to NPR in the morning, so they hear it.
Speaker 1: They definitely know what the tone is. And they were
Speaker 1: definitely wanted to watch the last debate and I let
Speaker 1: them do it, and they stayed up for the whole thing,
Speaker 1: which I think is a remarkable feat for three little kids.
Speaker 1: So you explain that to them, they you know, they
Speaker 1: have a they do. Things seep in the right things
Speaker 1: seep into them. They they're not a fan of course
Speaker 1: language at all. If they catch my husband or myself
Speaker 1: using it, they are incredibly disappointed in us. So you
Speaker 1: have a cursed jar. We have to put a dollar in.
Speaker 1: Not quite, but they are truly horrified by it. So
Speaker 1: they mostly remember the Anthony Weiner story from a couple
Speaker 1: of years ago that was hilarious. And know, without explaining
Speaker 1: to them, they completely understood that. So they have a
Speaker 1: much greater understanding. Wasn't super complicated, do you? How do
Speaker 1: you explain though, Donald Trump's language, persona and sort of
Speaker 1: the way he's conducted himself to your kids. You know,
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, I haven't had to explain it.
Speaker 1: They understand who he is. They've been drawing pictures of
Speaker 1: him speaking for months, I mean, since the beginning of
Speaker 1: the primary process. They've had their own impressions of him,
Speaker 1: and I let those I just let those those stand.
Speaker 1: So we're going to take a quick break and be
Speaker 1: right back with more of Sam b. Before we get
Speaker 1: back to the interview, we just wanted to say how
Speaker 1: much we appreciate all the reviews that you guys have
Speaker 1: left on iTunes, and in fact, Katie and I wanted
Speaker 1: to read a few that we've found particularly edifying or amusing.
Speaker 1: Simply Smart wrote love this podcast. It's got all the
Speaker 1: ingredients to keep me sucking the list and downloading with
Speaker 1: each new entry. Katie is likable, wasn't a fan. I
Speaker 1: am now thank you, Simply Smart. You're not as smart
Speaker 1: as I thought you were, but thank you for the kudos.
Speaker 1: And just to show this isn't pure propaganda, w J
Speaker 1: v j R. Says content is engaging, but there's no
Speaker 1: need for a legit journalist to casually swear. On the
Speaker 1: other hand, I like her impromptu bursts of singing with it.
Speaker 1: Cat wrote this is up there with this American Life
Speaker 1: and Death, Sex and Money as one of my can't
Speaker 1: wait for a new episode podcast highly recommended with the cat,
Speaker 1: thank you very much. I love those podcasts as well,
Speaker 1: so that puts us in very good company. And we're
Speaker 1: really appreciative that you're liking this. Thank you for taking
Speaker 1: the time to review our show, and we'd be grateful
Speaker 1: if more of you did the same, especially if you
Speaker 1: like it. We're back with Sam be Hi, Sam bry Kate.
Speaker 1: So we've got some listener questions. People actually took the
Speaker 1: time to call in and leave a voicemail for you.
Speaker 1: That's very sweet. Thank you so much, So let's listen. Hi.
Speaker 1: My name is Morgan Easterly, and I have a question
Speaker 1: for Sam b. I love full frontal, and I love
Speaker 1: that you attack women's issues with such beautiful ferocity. So
Speaker 1: my question is do you feel alone in the way
Speaker 1: that you choose to fully take these women's issues on
Speaker 1: with the power, with the intent that they deserve to
Speaker 1: be taken on or do you feel like other people
Speaker 1: are championing these things the same way that you are.
Speaker 1: That's so interest, that's a great question, you know. I
Speaker 1: don't feel I don't feel alone. I understand that, you know,
Speaker 1: a lot of the issues that we talked about on
Speaker 1: the show aren't being really attacked satirically, but people are
Speaker 1: doing people are working so diligently on these issues. We
Speaker 1: did something about we did a story about the rape
Speaker 1: kit backlog, and um, you know, I think it helped.
Speaker 1: It certainly helped to push a little piece of closing
Speaker 1: a loophole, kind of pushed a little piece of legislation forward.
Speaker 1: I think it brought attention to the issue and maybe
Speaker 1: helped move things a little bit more quickly. But and then, um,
Speaker 1: people were very quick to think that we would take
Speaker 1: responsibility for it. And I really want to make sure
Speaker 1: everybody knows that there are people, hundreds and hundreds of
Speaker 1: people and attorneys and activists and people who like Marsica
Speaker 1: Hearket has been working on that issue for a long time, long, long, long,
Speaker 1: long time. It's not just you know, one little comedy
Speaker 1: show doesn't really quite push things. It's only everything is
Speaker 1: show can besolves with the riot ratio of celebrities. Kim
Speaker 1: Kardashian no is does it sound like her a little
Speaker 1: bit to me? On the other hand, though, you know,
Speaker 1: you get on you know, you talk about an issue
Speaker 1: on a show like yours, and it does have the
Speaker 1: ability to permeate, you know, in a way that a
Speaker 1: news story doesn't. There's something about it that really connects
Speaker 1: the audience to the cause. And I think you did
Speaker 1: that so beautifully with the Syrian refugee crisis, because I
Speaker 1: feel like there's so much out in the ether. I
Speaker 1: think that becomes a mantra for people, especially depending on
Speaker 1: their news source, and nobody is able to say, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, let's give it some context. And I
Speaker 1: think that's what you did with the Syrian refugee crisis.
Speaker 1: Tell us about your thinking behind that and why you
Speaker 1: wanted to cover it that way. Well, I have to
Speaker 1: say that the refugee crisis, I can't even explain why,
Speaker 1: but it is a matter that is so close to
Speaker 1: my heart. I think about it a lot. I think
Speaker 1: about how, you know, if ways to tell more stories,
Speaker 1: ways to bring more attention to it. So, you know,
Speaker 1: with the show, we had the opportunity to go to
Speaker 1: Jordan's and meet with refugees, and I think any opportunity
Speaker 1: that you can take to to humanize people is a
Speaker 1: great opportunity. Where did you do the interview, sam where
Speaker 1: you talked to the refugees and you were teaching them
Speaker 1: funny like words like gluten free. Oh yeah, that was
Speaker 1: in Jordan's. They were um all of those, all of
Speaker 1: the people in that program. That was the last the
Speaker 1: last stage of your of the vetting process is trying
Speaker 1: to acclimatize them to life in the United States, trying
Speaker 1: to teach them a little bit. They have to pass
Speaker 1: a course right at the end, so they've gone through
Speaker 1: all of these safety checks and security checks and background
Speaker 1: checks and physical and health checks and all of these
Speaker 1: different things, and then right at the end they have
Speaker 1: to take a course for a couple of weeks on
Speaker 1: American culture. So I happily took over the class that
Speaker 1: no one asked me to take over. In America, people
Speaker 1: wear sweatpants all the time. Important take notes. Can you
Speaker 1: wear sweatpants to your own wedding? Yes you can. Those
Speaker 1: are forms pants. You have to buy them at Jake Crew.
Speaker 1: But it's such a place of at the resettlement place
Speaker 1: in Jordan's, it's a happy place. Everybody's on their way somewhere.
Speaker 1: You know, families are kind of getting together and they're
Speaker 1: going it's it's mysterious and it's scary, but it's also hopeful.
Speaker 1: You know, everybody listen in their dreams, everybody wants to
Speaker 1: go back to their home in Syria and live the
Speaker 1: life that they were living before the war. But it's
Speaker 1: not possible. So why not try Chicago? And what's your
Speaker 1: view of Donald Trump making the Syrian refugees a big
Speaker 1: political issue? I mean, his son actually tweeted, as you
Speaker 1: know that if you have a bowl of skittles and
Speaker 1: one or two of the skittles could kill you, would
Speaker 1: you take a handful of skittles? Ergo, we shouldn't take
Speaker 1: a handful of refugees. I think it's appalling. I think
Speaker 1: it's they're just quite literally feeding people the worst, most vicious,
Speaker 1: toxic misinformation there. These are human beings, they are vetted,
Speaker 1: They are literally spreading lies. I find it reprehensible. It's
Speaker 1: absolutely anti Christian, anti American values. It's everything that is
Speaker 1: wrong with the world that we live in. Is that
Speaker 1: kind of feeling of us in them is so destructive
Speaker 1: it actually makes me feel physically sick. Well, that's actually
Speaker 1: a pretty good segue to one question. I wanted to
Speaker 1: ask you which is Perusing some articles about you, one
Speaker 1: word keeps coming up, which is anger? You mean hot, sensual, sizzling.
Speaker 1: I wanted to focus on the more intellectual word, sure
Speaker 1: to how I time this use angry white females? A
Speaker 1: headline Atlantic did a piece the Anger of Samantha b
Speaker 1: rolling Stone called you outraged? Are you really that piste off? Well,
Speaker 1: here's the deal, Like, well, I mean yeah, yes and no.
Speaker 1: I mean I think we can all summon our outrage
Speaker 1: on specific stories. I don't stalk the earth like an
Speaker 1: outraged anger demon. I have a very level headed approach
Speaker 1: to life and living. Um, you know, we have to
Speaker 1: summon outrage to make the show. We have to tap
Speaker 1: into that to make a show about things that we
Speaker 1: feel passionately about. Um, we tap into that to make
Speaker 1: the show. But we live our lives as normal human beings.
Speaker 1: But it must feel good to be able to express
Speaker 1: that anger. You know, one of these articles talked about
Speaker 1: you know, there was a time where women wouldn't feel
Speaker 1: comfortable expressing their anger. So in a way, this is
Speaker 1: a real This is real progress for women. Great good.
Speaker 1: We should be free to speak our emotions like you know,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm turning forty seven next week, actually, happy birthday,
Speaker 1: and thank you, and I'm just beyond I'm just done
Speaker 1: with it. You know. It's actually very helpful, and I
Speaker 1: think that our experience is unique in television, you know,
Speaker 1: Joe and I we laugh about this all the time
Speaker 1: because we're both in our late forties and we just
Speaker 1: don't care anymore. Our ambitions, Like this is our ambition
Speaker 1: and television, we're we're living it right now, so there's
Speaker 1: no future prospect that we have to be careful about.
Speaker 1: Although for Hillary Clinton, you know, it's still a big problem,
Speaker 1: you know, giving her permission to be honest. We have
Speaker 1: a clip about her first debate performance from the show
Speaker 1: Let's Listen. What she needs to do is provide the
Speaker 1: substance with the entertainment. Come away enjoying it. Be a
Speaker 1: happy warrior, enjoy what you're doing, you know, have a
Speaker 1: little lightheartedness, show some humor, so be perfect, but not
Speaker 1: too perfect. Save us from fascism, but like, don't be
Speaker 1: a bit about it. No one was suggesting superficial changes
Speaker 1: for Trump, like try wearing a suit that actually fits,
Speaker 1: or embrace your baldness proudly, or don't snort your way
Speaker 1: through the debate like Jean Pierre's prize trouble pick. But
Speaker 1: you have to feel for Hillary Clinton in some ways,
Speaker 1: don't you. Sam. It's a very it's very interesting to
Speaker 1: live life and see this election through the prism of
Speaker 1: having grown up a woman. You know, it is hard
Speaker 1: to explain that when you are a woman. Usually, I
Speaker 1: mean from the moment you're born, you're kind of told
Speaker 1: how to how to look, what is pleasing, how to
Speaker 1: be a people pleaser, how to be agreeable, how to
Speaker 1: make people at ease with you. It's hard to learn
Speaker 1: as a woman. It was hard for me to learn
Speaker 1: to stop being a people pleaser. I still learned that
Speaker 1: lesson all the time. It's hard for me to say
Speaker 1: no to people. But eventually you learn it, and then
Speaker 1: you can't take it anymore. You have to explain to
Speaker 1: people that when you're a woman and then you walk
Speaker 1: the planet, people tell you to smile all the time,
Speaker 1: they tell you how to look. You're constantly confronted with
Speaker 1: people's expectations, whether you're falling short of them or you're
Speaker 1: exceeding them, you're constantly told about it. You know, we're
Speaker 1: so everybody's so conscious and aware of it all the time.
Speaker 1: It's nice to feel free to just throw off those
Speaker 1: shackles and do the show we want to do. I
Speaker 1: think that's one reason SNL that Kate mckennon's character, sure whatever,
Speaker 1: it's really great of Hillary is so funny because you
Speaker 1: do sort of see that public private conflict and they
Speaker 1: should do something if she's elected. Of her first day
Speaker 1: at the White House where she just you know, talk
Speaker 1: about shackles, right, she does play the character with so
Speaker 1: much joy you can feel it. It's it's pretty beautiful judgment.
Speaker 1: Secretary Clinton, do you think you have better judgment than Mr? Trump? Yes? Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: of course I do. Donald Trump has terrible judgment. He
Speaker 1: makes bad decisions. He spent his life cheating middle class laborers,
Speaker 1: laborers like my own human father who made I guess
Speaker 1: drapes or printed drapes or soul drapes or as someone
Speaker 1: with drapes. And he was relatable and I am also relatable.
Speaker 1: What do you think about some of the criticism late
Speaker 1: night comedians and people like you have gotten from folks
Speaker 1: like Ross doubt that I always have a hard time
Speaker 1: pronouncing his last name. The columnist for The New York Times.
Speaker 1: Did you read that column? I did read it, And
Speaker 1: what did you think of that? It's Clinton, Samantha, I'm
Speaker 1: sure it's not the racism that's the problem. Ross, It's
Speaker 1: it's us. I'm sorry that we're making you all feel
Speaker 1: so uncomfortable. I don't I don't take responsibility for I
Speaker 1: don't think that I have anything to do with Hillary
Speaker 1: Clinton's rise or fall. I don't think I'm a problem.
Speaker 1: But I guess his point is sort of this this
Speaker 1: political correctness out of control. I sound like I'm channeling
Speaker 1: Donald Trump in a way, but kind of that that
Speaker 1: all these institutions are taking these uh, liberally progressive stands.
Speaker 1: I guess the Late Nine hosts have become more like
Speaker 1: advocates for liberal views or special commentators rather than just
Speaker 1: comedians who are making us laugh. I mean, it's I
Speaker 1: think it's a lot. I think it's legitimate to say
Speaker 1: it's a long way to go from Jay Leno's humor,
Speaker 1: which was very kind of down the middle. Isn't this
Speaker 1: all crazy? Both sides are nuts to the position you've taken,
Speaker 1: which is much more about one side as nuts. I'm
Speaker 1: not really a super huge fan of things that are
Speaker 1: middle of the road. I don't That's not what I
Speaker 1: personally respond to as a viewer. I don't like things
Speaker 1: that are focus grouped to death. I like a strong
Speaker 1: point of view. That's what I respond to. That's the
Speaker 1: material I like. The show is not for everybody. I
Speaker 1: would certainly assume I don't really care. I'm sure tb
Speaker 1: scres that's great that they don't care for for that,
Speaker 1: But um, you know, I think what makes it niche
Speaker 1: or special in some way is that we're not holding back.
Speaker 1: And that's that's all we have, is the purity of
Speaker 1: our voice. And if you can't handle it or you
Speaker 1: think that we're pushing you know what some people call
Speaker 1: political correctness, I just call progress or decency, decency I
Speaker 1: call well, I'm sorry that the world is not your
Speaker 1: liking anymore, and that you feel stripped of your power
Speaker 1: and authority to speak, But we are tired of not
Speaker 1: having a voice, and so we will now speak. Do
Speaker 1: you think any of this has gone too far? Like
Speaker 1: the rhetoric about safe spaces and universities and only certain
Speaker 1: ideas are kind of allowed to be disseminated in particular communities.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't you know, it's hard to it's
Speaker 1: hard to talk about in general terms. I think that,
Speaker 1: you know, it is a fine line. I mean, I
Speaker 1: obviously I'm all for being sensitive to people. But I
Speaker 1: think what find troubling and I have at times is
Speaker 1: the squelching of sort of free conversation, free speech, and
Speaker 1: and and and the exchange of ideas that I think
Speaker 1: will move the ball forward in terms of having these
Speaker 1: discussions that help, you know, at least acknowledge problems and
Speaker 1: then come up with solutions. I think that's when maybe
Speaker 1: the quote unquote political correctness can be an impediment rather
Speaker 1: than something that builds sensitivity. You know. But people have
Speaker 1: accused me of silencing them on our show, and I
Speaker 1: tend to disagree with that. I think I'm just I
Speaker 1: think I'm just presenting an alternate viewpoint. I understand that
Speaker 1: it's difficult, and I understand that it's challenging to have
Speaker 1: your expectations of the world challenged. But we're you know,
Speaker 1: we're not trying to silence anybody. We're not trying to
Speaker 1: squelsh conversation. We're trying to have conversations, and we're just
Speaker 1: expressing ourselves and all we're doing is presenting things on
Speaker 1: a t V show. We're not shutting anybody down, per se.
Speaker 1: People are free to speak. We're just also free to
Speaker 1: criticize them for doing so. I mean, you're former colleague.
Speaker 1: Jeff Sucker, who now runs CNN gave a speech or
Speaker 1: was interviewed at Harvard recently and he said if his
Speaker 1: network made a mistake last year, it was putting on
Speaker 1: these unfiltered Trump rallies and that he regretted doing them. Um,
Speaker 1: what do you think the media's role is in all
Speaker 1: of this, besides NBC and kind of building up the
Speaker 1: Trump candidacy. Well, I think it is a little bit
Speaker 1: like that, you know, putting a frog in a pot
Speaker 1: of cold water and turning the burner on. I mean,
Speaker 1: we how could anyone have known? I mean, really, how
Speaker 1: could we all have known? But there were enough times
Speaker 1: when it's funny actually being away. It's something that you
Speaker 1: always notice when you're out of the country and you
Speaker 1: watch Al Jazeera, or you watch BBC CNN International or
Speaker 1: BBC you know, or BBC b see. You see that
Speaker 1: they don't necessarily fill their airtime with two hours of
Speaker 1: an empty podium at a Trump rally. Okay, there's other
Speaker 1: things going on in the world. They will air documentaries.
Speaker 1: There are global issues we could be talking about, there
Speaker 1: are stories we could be telling, things we could be seeing.
Speaker 1: But that camera was very often trained on the tarmac
Speaker 1: of an airport with the Trump plane, you know, an
Speaker 1: hour and a half away from arriving, and we're talking
Speaker 1: about that NonStop for hours and hours. So I generally
Speaker 1: object to that kind of coverage. It's not specific to Trump.
Speaker 1: I generally think that that is a waste of everybody's time.
Speaker 1: Do you ever wonder if humor propelled this candidacy of
Speaker 1: Donald Trump's or lack thereof a lot of people like
Speaker 1: trace trace back to the White House correspondence dinner in
Speaker 1: two thousand eleven, President Obama famously mocked Donald Trump, and
Speaker 1: we have a clip of that. We thought we'd play
Speaker 1: it for you and get your take. A kidding aside,
Speaker 1: obviously we all know about your credentials and breadth of experience.
Speaker 1: Um for example of seriously, just recently, in an episode
Speaker 1: of Celebrity Apprentice at the Steakhouse, the men's cooking team,
Speaker 1: uh did not impress the judges from Omaha Steaks, And
Speaker 1: there was a lot of blame to go around, but you,
Speaker 1: Mr Trump, recognized that the real problem was a lack
Speaker 1: of leadership, and so ultimately you didn't blame Little John
Speaker 1: or meat Loaf. You fired Gary Music. And these are
Speaker 1: the kind of decisions that would keep me up at
Speaker 1: night out. It was brutal, brutal. And I don't know
Speaker 1: if you've watched to that video tape, but they're showing
Speaker 1: Donald Trump throughout completely stone faced and not laughing at all,
Speaker 1: not even pretending to laugh at himself. I guess it
Speaker 1: was an article that George Herbert Walker Bush was someone
Speaker 1: brought in Donald Trump as a potential VP candidate for him, right,
Speaker 1: and he said thanks, but no things. So I think
Speaker 1: he had political aspirations early on. But many say this
Speaker 1: moment is what it really revenge, right, the idea was catalyzed.
Speaker 1: You know What's so by this moment and Trump being
Speaker 1: determined to show people, no, no, I'm a serious force
Speaker 1: in politics. I'm not somebody who should just be laughed at.
Speaker 1: I know someone who was. It was a joke writer
Speaker 1: for you know, for those at those speeches, and I
Speaker 1: we it's so funny because we were all laughing, where like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, he wrote the did he write the
Speaker 1: joke that that started this whole goddamn s and he
Speaker 1: might have, he might have. You know, we have another
Speaker 1: we have another listener voicemail with a question. So here
Speaker 1: we go, uh, Stephen Colbert, Larry Wilmore, John Oliver, and
Speaker 1: Samantha by all disciples of John Stewart and The Daily Show.
Speaker 1: What does that say about John Stewart and after his
Speaker 1: trump rant on The Late Show? How nostalgic and enjoyable
Speaker 1: was that to watch? Thank you? That's a great question too.
Speaker 1: I love I love watching John I was. I loved
Speaker 1: watching him on Coldbert. You know. I when he's done
Speaker 1: a couple of things on Colbert, I've really enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: He did something on our show. Actually, he did a
Speaker 1: cold open for us that was really funny. Yeah. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't have much. I don't have nostalgia for the past,
Speaker 1: but I do think of it. I think of it
Speaker 1: all the time. It informs everything I do. Really, Um,
Speaker 1: I miss you know, I do miss him. I'm looking
Speaker 1: forward to his new project, whatever it is. I guess
Speaker 1: we'll all find out. We have to hear one more
Speaker 1: Samantha by moment before we say goodbye, and you've been
Speaker 1: so nice and generous. We can't let you go without
Speaker 1: playing a little of your bit on the excess Hollywood
Speaker 1: tape from two thousand five. Let's listen, that's two thousand
Speaker 1: five Access Hollywood tape. Wasn't just lewd remarks. Trump was
Speaker 1: literally explaining a time tested strategy for sexual assault. In fact,
Speaker 1: take a tic tach and grab him by the pussy
Speaker 1: is the closest thing to a plan. Donald Trump has
Speaker 1: described this entirely. What did you think when you first
Speaker 1: heard that tape? I it's so funny. Someone at work.
Speaker 1: I hadn't heard it. I don't I was. I guess
Speaker 1: I was busy doing something and I hadn't heard it
Speaker 1: un till the very end of the day. And he
Speaker 1: gave me the laptop and he was like, I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna watch you watching this video. And wait, John was
Speaker 1: my jock had completely dropped. And he was like, it
Speaker 1: gets better. And then it happened, and then the world
Speaker 1: shifted ever so slightly to the left and nothing's been
Speaker 1: the same since. So after the election, are you going
Speaker 1: to be sad? Brian and I started this by saying,
Speaker 1: I can't wait till it's over. Ryan said he's going
Speaker 1: to be sad when it's over. So you're in my camp,
Speaker 1: in your camp, one dent. I can't wait. There's so
Speaker 1: much other stuff. There is actually so much other stuff
Speaker 1: to talk about, but we can't. I mean you can't.
Speaker 1: We can't talk about it. It's completely We're paralyzed until
Speaker 1: this thing is over. There are so many other stories
Speaker 1: to tell you discussion of the sweating. I don't want to.
Speaker 1: I can't handle it anymore. I just want to know
Speaker 1: who the winner is so I can live my life.
Speaker 1: I feel like we are going to need a period
Speaker 1: of recuperation. We have a great national anxiety. I'm hearing
Speaker 1: it from everybody. You should have seen my offices on
Speaker 1: the day of the first debate. We were all pale.
Speaker 1: People were shivering. I shivering. I've never hit it out.
Speaker 1: Had we all somehow had the flu just watching with
Speaker 1: so much fear in our hearts. It's time for it
Speaker 1: to end. We need I just we all need to nationally.
Speaker 1: We need to cover the country in a dome and
Speaker 1: pipe and spam music. And you know there is going
Speaker 1: to be one more cathartic, slash disturbing moment before the
Speaker 1: election actually happens, which is the Al Smith Dinner here
Speaker 1: in New York that actually happens the day that this
Speaker 1: podcast is released. It's a white tie dinner in which
Speaker 1: both Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump. They sit on a
Speaker 1: dais rather near each other, and the tradition is that
Speaker 1: they each give sort of self deprecating humorous remarks at
Speaker 1: this dinner. I'm so fearful now I have to tell
Speaker 1: you it is. I've gone for a couple of them,
Speaker 1: and it is so much fun. I couldn't believe that
Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump agreed agreed to go to
Speaker 1: this dinner. And they do about like a five minute
Speaker 1: stand up five or ten minutes, and they obviously get
Speaker 1: their best writers. So honestly, it is going to be
Speaker 1: such excuse me for cussing such a ship show. I'm
Speaker 1: actually pitted out thinking about it. This year, I am
Speaker 1: going you are going, Wait, do you want to go?
Speaker 1: What day is that? It is? Thursday? Do you want to? God?
Speaker 1: I can't why you have to rerange your software? I'm
Speaker 1: going to be in Miami. I wish you didn't invite me.
Speaker 1: Just for the record, do you have to go? But
Speaker 1: on the other hand, why does anyone want to be president.
Speaker 1: They have to do that. Oh my god, gonna be crazy.
Speaker 1: Oh no, well, if if your plans change and you
Speaker 1: want to be my date, oh I want to be
Speaker 1: your dates. And actually we can bring your husband and
Speaker 1: because my husband's coming to really we can go on
Speaker 1: a double date to the Al Smith dinner. We will
Speaker 1: all be sweating. Sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, it's just
Speaker 1: being mean girl. I'm sorry, Brian. I can try to
Speaker 1: get you a ticket to the balcony. Our husband's will
Speaker 1: sweat right through their jackets. Just well, you are so
Speaker 1: generous to come and do our podist. Isn't she the greatest?
Speaker 1: Now you're the greatest. There are some people who like
Speaker 1: me too, like you, I think. Anyway, thanks so much,
Speaker 1: and I want to get together with you all right
Speaker 1: after the election. We'll be so happy. This color will
Speaker 1: come back to our cheeks. We're going to live. That
Speaker 1: was so much fun. I just love her. And by
Speaker 1: the way, Full Frontal with Samantha b Airs Mondays on
Speaker 1: TBS at thirty Central. Do you think she'll be my friend?
Speaker 1: I think she'll be your friend. I think she already
Speaker 1: is your friend. Actually I know, but I want to
Speaker 1: hang out with her and with her maybe yeah, I
Speaker 1: hope so she said she was, and all of you
Speaker 1: were invited to mean while, I want to thank Gianna
Speaker 1: Palmer for producing the show, and Jared O'Connell for engineering
Speaker 1: and mixing it. And thanks to Mark Phillips for our
Speaker 1: theme music, which I really like. I play it on weekends.
Speaker 1: Our next episode will air less than a week before
Speaker 1: election day. Yea, So tell us, how are you getting
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Speaker 1: nice thing, mostly thank you, thank you, because I'm very
Speaker 1: bad at taking criticism. Well, what did you say earlier?
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