1 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: I love autumn in New York. I love autumn all 2 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:11,559 Speaker 1: over the place because I love the Christmas of the air, 3 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: the cerulean blue sky, I love the leads changing colors 4 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: autumn in New York. But anyway, I am really excited 5 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 1: this autumn. But it's for a different reason. I'm excited 6 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: because it means the election is just around the corner, 7 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 1: and it couldn't come soon enough. I want an advent 8 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: calendar marking off the days until November eight because I'm 9 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: so sick of it. I'm actually going to be sad 10 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:43,319 Speaker 1: when seriously, what is it, What's going to fill this 11 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: hole in my life? That's true, I mean I do 12 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:49,160 Speaker 1: wonder what will the media cover, What will I talk 13 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: about at dinner? What will I talk about in the 14 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: morning when I wake up and look at my iPhone 15 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: and tell my husband John the latest, greatest, craziest stuff 16 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: that's going down. All these things leave you scratching your head. 17 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: It's enough to make you cry or laugh. If you're 18 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:08,479 Speaker 1: watching late night television, and if you've been watching Samantha 19 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: b lately, you've been laughing a lot. I've said some 20 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: foolish things, but there's a big difference between the words 21 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 1: and actions of other people. Bill Clinton has actually abused women. 22 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 1: Stop Jesus Christ, Donald, who is advising you on how 23 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: to deal with your misogyny crisis. Let's also remember that 24 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:30,479 Speaker 1: one of the men who are is advising Donald Cruck 25 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: is Roger Ales. Of course, Roger Ales of the Esteemed 26 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: pr Firm Ales Cosby Polanskian Gift. They're good. I hear 27 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 1: they've got a friend on the move over. Boys, we 28 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: got we got some estrogen in town. Do you want 29 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: me to call Samantha or Sam? I like, whatever I 30 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: Sammy b I like, whatever falls out of your mouth 31 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: and feels natural is what we will establish. Sam. That's perfect, Sam, 32 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: I am it um So. I mean, you start this 33 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 1: show and this gift from God descends, and Donald Trump 34 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: I think he describes himself that way too. God. It's 35 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: very spot on. I know they were all gifts though. 36 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: I mean, the primaries were amazing. There were some amazing 37 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: characters in that, and then when they couldn't find their 38 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: way to their like turns, I mean, there were just 39 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: so many great moments with all of those guys. I 40 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 1: want to talk about sort of how you've approached this 41 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: whole insane period of time. But first I want people 42 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: to know a little bit about you. Okay, tell us 43 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 1: how you got into this crazy business of comedy. Um. 44 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 1: I started doing comedy in Toronto. I started doing sketch comedy. 45 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 1: Actually with a woman who is on the show now, 46 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 1: Atlanta Harkin, and two other of our very very good friends. 47 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 1: We um, we did sketch comedy. I mean we did it. 48 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: We didn't get paid for it. We just loved doing comedy, 49 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: writing comedy, performing on disgusting stages in the backs of 50 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: bars and so. And I came to it, I think 51 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 1: fairly late in life. I was in my late twenties 52 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 1: when I first started doing it, and it took a 53 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: lot of encouragement from other people for me to even start. 54 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: It wasn't like in my blood or anything. But how 55 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 1: could it not be? In your book? Is you are 56 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: so funny? Were you the class clown? Growing? I'm so quiet. 57 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 1: I know it doesn't seem like I'm very quiet, but 58 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 1: really I'm very pretty retiring person. Like I don't actually 59 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: like to be the spotlight except for twenty one minutes 60 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: per week. I really enjoy it and then it is 61 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: completely out of my system. So in life, fairly shy always, 62 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: you know, writing and working. There was a period, a 63 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: brief couple of years period where I was a hoodlum 64 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: when my teenage years and I worked it out of 65 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: my system. Those were your James Dean James I did. 66 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: I had those, but they were short lived. Thanking us. 67 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: And you've got a job working, I mean down the 68 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 1: road on the Daily Show, which must have been sort 69 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: of the motherload at the time when you got hired. 70 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: Did you realize what a juggernaut that was going to be? 71 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: It was already a juggernaut to me, it was my 72 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: I loved the Daily Show like I adored it. I 73 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: had a special I almost had a special room in 74 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: my house that was a watching room, you know, we 75 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: got it was really the only show that my husband 76 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: and I really were very dedicated to, and we watched 77 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: it every night it aired in Canada, so I watched 78 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,239 Speaker 1: it even in the years when it wasn't it didn't 79 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 1: have that feeling of great importance. Um, I still loved it. 80 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 1: I mean I really loved it. And so even getting 81 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 1: in the chance to audition for that show was so 82 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:37,359 Speaker 1: meaningful to me. I it was unthinkable, really to be 83 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: living in Canada an audition for a U S show 84 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: and did did you have a good audition? Did you 85 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: feel good? I felt great about it. I trained for 86 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: it really hard. I meant it meant more to me 87 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: than any other experience of that nature ever. And you've 88 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: got such a unique voice that is so welcome for 89 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 1: me and so many other people in this late night 90 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: landscape just have someone with boobs making fun of saying 91 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 1: appreciate it. So let's so let's hear a little taste 92 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: of the humor that you honed on the Daily Show. 93 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: Let's listen to this bit from two thousand four. Have 94 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: you had your picture taken with a black person yet? Well? 95 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: I don't think so, but I wouldn't mind doing that. 96 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: That's something you'd be willing to try. Why, there's plenty 97 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 1: of them, I know. Do you have any of them 98 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: in Montana? You don't? You know you don't have any? Uh? 99 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 1: In fact, I guess our creds were pretty old before. 100 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: I do love when you go out in the field, 101 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: as we journalists say, and talked to real people. That 102 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: was tell us about that skit for people want to 103 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 1: be reminded. That was at the r n C in 104 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 1: two thousand four. Um, we were. That was really my 105 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 1: first convention. That was my first convention. It was really 106 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 1: it was a free for all. We just went out 107 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: with cameras and just started asking questions. And that was 108 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 1: here York at Madison Square. Guards it was and that 109 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: lovely man he was quite such a nice man, a 110 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: delegate from Montana who was unfamiliar with the way the 111 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 1: world works. Now, did you ever feel bad? Did you 112 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 1: feel like you were sort of making fun of people 113 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 1: who didn't necessarily deserve to be mocked? Well, I think, 114 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: you know, through the years, I've definitely done that. I 115 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: don't really I don't really do that anymore, you know, 116 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: I think my position on that evolved over time. When 117 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 1: it comes to figuring out the tone and the material 118 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: you're picking, I mean, I guess take us behind the curtain, 119 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: Sam a little bit and tell us the process that 120 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:36,919 Speaker 1: you go through for each show and how do you 121 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: put it together. You know, we have our staff is incredible, 122 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: and our research teams and our field department and our 123 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: writers and everybody. It is a really I think it's 124 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 1: a very free forum for people to pitch their ideas 125 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 1: and thoughts about UM. Joe and I Joe Miller she's 126 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 1: the show runner of the show. She has her things 127 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: that she's passionate about. I have things that I'm passionate about. 128 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: Together we create can the template for a show. It's 129 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 1: the stories that we read or think about that just 130 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: you know, there's something that just happens where you just 131 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: know it's a story that you can tell that you 132 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: want to tell immediately. We're really kind of running the 133 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 1: show on a very gut level, which I think is why. 134 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: That's why we're enjoying the experience for sure. And your 135 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: show now is very different, obviously from the Daily Show. 136 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 1: It's once a week, it's not every night. You're not 137 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: playing a character anymore. You're not the fake news correspondent. 138 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: I don't even know what to call myself anymo. I 139 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: don't even know what I don't feel like creating a 140 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: new category if you performer now? Is that is that liberating? Scary? 141 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: Some combination of the two. To have to have your 142 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: own sort of point of view about this, it's really liberating. 143 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: I don't find it scary at all. I mean, you 144 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 1: have to know, you have to know yourself, that's for sure, 145 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: because you know, if you don't want to do something 146 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 1: in which your opinion waivers or you're unsure. So you 147 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: have to be pretty solidly of a mindset about something 148 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: in order for it to you know, in order for 149 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: it to resonate as a piece as well. So I 150 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: think that makes sense. And certainly, um, I love doing 151 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: field stuff. It's my you know, it's it's what I 152 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: cut my teeth on. So if we were on more 153 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: than once a week, we wouldn't be able to do that. 154 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: So when your show launched earlier this year, you had 155 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: a great tagline which was watch or your Sexiest. Loved 156 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: it so much and so sad that we have to 157 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: retire it, And I didn't think we don't. I don't 158 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: think you need to best And you are the only 159 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: woman in late night TV. I mean you're not the 160 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 1: only woman in streaming if one count that, but in 161 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: terms of a late night TV, and do you feel 162 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: a special more late night adjacent and we are on 163 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: it in thirty were kind of get lumped into it, 164 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 1: but we're not. I have a new kid that's very 165 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: late night for me actually, So do you feel a 166 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: special obligation or responsibility as the only woman or do 167 00:08:57,400 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: you just you want to make people laugh? No? I 168 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:02,599 Speaker 1: don't feel I should. I guess I I guess I 169 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 1: should feel that obligation, but I actually don't, and I 170 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,599 Speaker 1: I think that's a good thing because you know, we 171 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: have to keep it a little bit small. You actually 172 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 1: have to keep it very too to give yourself freedom. 173 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,199 Speaker 1: You can't think too much about how you're perceived in 174 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 1: the outside world. You can't be obsessed with it because 175 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 1: it's it's really paralyzing. Like if you thought, you know, 176 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 1: the moment that you create creative content through committee, it's 177 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 1: it's very it's difficult to make a pure product, and 178 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: it's so I keep it very tight. And it's helpful 179 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: actually that I have three little kids at home, because 180 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 1: it limits the amount that I can crawl up my 181 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: own ass about things. To be honest, like, it keeps 182 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 1: it's really less nice, right, um, but you know you can't. 183 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 1: I guess it limits the amount that I can overthink 184 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: things because there's just too much going on. You know, 185 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: work is work, home time is family time, and so 186 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: there's no there'sn't a lot of space to get to 187 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 1: self indulgence or reflective. You have three kids, as you said, 188 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: do you do you let your kids watch watch this stuff? 189 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: Do you talk about it? Oh, we do talk about it. 190 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: I mean they're pretty young, they're ten and younger, so 191 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:14,680 Speaker 1: they don't have a real handle on it. You know, 192 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: we listened to NPR in the morning, so they hear it. 193 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: They definitely know what the tone is. And they were 194 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: definitely wanted to watch the last debate and I let 195 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 1: them do it, and they stayed up for the whole thing, 196 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 1: which I think is a remarkable feat for three little kids. 197 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: So you explain that to them, they you know, they 198 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: have a they do. Things seep in the right things 199 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: seep into them. They they're not a fan of course 200 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: language at all. If they catch my husband or myself 201 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: using it, they are incredibly disappointed in us. So you 202 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: have a cursed jar. We have to put a dollar in. 203 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: Not quite, but they are truly horrified by it. So 204 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 1: they mostly remember the Anthony Weiner story from a couple 205 00:10:56,559 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: of years ago that was hilarious. And know, without explaining 206 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 1: to them, they completely understood that. So they have a 207 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: much greater understanding. Wasn't super complicated, do you? How do 208 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: you explain though, Donald Trump's language, persona and sort of 209 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 1: the way he's conducted himself to your kids. You know, 210 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: to be honest with you, I haven't had to explain it. 211 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: They understand who he is. They've been drawing pictures of 212 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 1: him speaking for months, I mean, since the beginning of 213 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: the primary process. They've had their own impressions of him, 214 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 1: and I let those I just let those those stand. 215 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: So we're going to take a quick break and be 216 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: right back with more of Sam b. Before we get 217 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 1: back to the interview, we just wanted to say how 218 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 1: much we appreciate all the reviews that you guys have 219 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: left on iTunes, and in fact, Katie and I wanted 220 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 1: to read a few that we've found particularly edifying or amusing. 221 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 1: Simply Smart wrote love this podcast. It's got all the 222 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: ingredients to keep me sucking the list and downloading with 223 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: each new entry. Katie is likable, wasn't a fan. I 224 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: am now thank you, Simply Smart. You're not as smart 225 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 1: as I thought you were, but thank you for the kudos. 226 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: And just to show this isn't pure propaganda, w J 227 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: v j R. Says content is engaging, but there's no 228 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: need for a legit journalist to casually swear. On the 229 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,839 Speaker 1: other hand, I like her impromptu bursts of singing with it. 230 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: Cat wrote this is up there with this American Life 231 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 1: and Death, Sex and Money as one of my can't 232 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: wait for a new episode podcast highly recommended with the cat, 233 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: thank you very much. I love those podcasts as well, 234 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 1: so that puts us in very good company. And we're 235 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: really appreciative that you're liking this. Thank you for taking 236 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:49,079 Speaker 1: the time to review our show, and we'd be grateful 237 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 1: if more of you did the same, especially if you 238 00:12:51,679 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 1: like it. We're back with Sam be Hi, Sam bry Kate. 239 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: So we've got some listener questions. People actually took the 240 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: time to call in and leave a voicemail for you. 241 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: That's very sweet. Thank you so much, So let's listen. Hi. 242 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 1: My name is Morgan Easterly, and I have a question 243 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: for Sam b. I love full frontal, and I love 244 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 1: that you attack women's issues with such beautiful ferocity. So 245 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:38,079 Speaker 1: my question is do you feel alone in the way 246 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 1: that you choose to fully take these women's issues on 247 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: with the power, with the intent that they deserve to 248 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: be taken on or do you feel like other people 249 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: are championing these things the same way that you are. 250 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: That's so interest, that's a great question, you know. I 251 00:13:55,400 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 1: don't feel I don't feel alone. I understand that, you know, 252 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: a lot of the issues that we talked about on 253 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 1: the show aren't being really attacked satirically, but people are 254 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 1: doing people are working so diligently on these issues. We 255 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 1: did something about we did a story about the rape 256 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: kit backlog, and um, you know, I think it helped. 257 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 1: It certainly helped to push a little piece of closing 258 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 1: a loophole, kind of pushed a little piece of legislation forward. 259 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: I think it brought attention to the issue and maybe 260 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: helped move things a little bit more quickly. But and then, um, 261 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: people were very quick to think that we would take 262 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 1: responsibility for it. And I really want to make sure 263 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: everybody knows that there are people, hundreds and hundreds of 264 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 1: people and attorneys and activists and people who like Marsica 265 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 1: Hearket has been working on that issue for a long time, long, long, long, 266 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: long time. It's not just you know, one little comedy 267 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: show doesn't really quite push things. It's only everything is 268 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: show can besolves with the riot ratio of celebrities. Kim 269 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 1: Kardashian no is does it sound like her a little 270 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: bit to me? On the other hand, though, you know, 271 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: you get on you know, you talk about an issue 272 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: on a show like yours, and it does have the 273 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: ability to permeate, you know, in a way that a 274 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: news story doesn't. There's something about it that really connects 275 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: the audience to the cause. And I think you did 276 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: that so beautifully with the Syrian refugee crisis, because I 277 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: feel like there's so much out in the ether. I 278 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: think that becomes a mantra for people, especially depending on 279 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: their news source, and nobody is able to say, whoa, whoa, whoa. 280 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: Wait a minute, let's give it some context. And I 281 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 1: think that's what you did with the Syrian refugee crisis. 282 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: Tell us about your thinking behind that and why you 283 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: wanted to cover it that way. Well, I have to 284 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 1: say that the refugee crisis, I can't even explain why, 285 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: but it is a matter that is so close to 286 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: my heart. I think about it a lot. I think 287 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: about how, you know, if ways to tell more stories, 288 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: ways to bring more attention to it. So, you know, 289 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: with the show, we had the opportunity to go to 290 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: Jordan's and meet with refugees, and I think any opportunity 291 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: that you can take to to humanize people is a 292 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: great opportunity. Where did you do the interview, sam where 293 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: you talked to the refugees and you were teaching them 294 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: funny like words like gluten free. Oh yeah, that was 295 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: in Jordan's. They were um all of those, all of 296 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: the people in that program. That was the last the 297 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: last stage of your of the vetting process is trying 298 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: to acclimatize them to life in the United States, trying 299 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: to teach them a little bit. They have to pass 300 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: a course right at the end, so they've gone through 301 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: all of these safety checks and security checks and background 302 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 1: checks and physical and health checks and all of these 303 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: different things, and then right at the end they have 304 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: to take a course for a couple of weeks on 305 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 1: American culture. So I happily took over the class that 306 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: no one asked me to take over. In America, people 307 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: wear sweatpants all the time. Important take notes. Can you 308 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 1: wear sweatpants to your own wedding? Yes you can. Those 309 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: are forms pants. You have to buy them at Jake Crew. 310 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 1: But it's such a place of at the resettlement place 311 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:20,160 Speaker 1: in Jordan's, it's a happy place. Everybody's on their way somewhere. 312 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 1: You know, families are kind of getting together and they're 313 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: going it's it's mysterious and it's scary, but it's also hopeful. 314 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 1: You know, everybody listen in their dreams, everybody wants to 315 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: go back to their home in Syria and live the 316 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: life that they were living before the war. But it's 317 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: not possible. So why not try Chicago? And what's your 318 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 1: view of Donald Trump making the Syrian refugees a big 319 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: political issue? I mean, his son actually tweeted, as you 320 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: know that if you have a bowl of skittles and 321 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: one or two of the skittles could kill you, would 322 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 1: you take a handful of skittles? Ergo, we shouldn't take 323 00:17:56,200 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: a handful of refugees. I think it's appalling. I think 324 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 1: it's they're just quite literally feeding people the worst, most vicious, 325 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: toxic misinformation there. These are human beings, they are vetted, 326 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: They are literally spreading lies. I find it reprehensible. It's 327 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 1: absolutely anti Christian, anti American values. It's everything that is 328 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:31,479 Speaker 1: wrong with the world that we live in. Is that 329 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 1: kind of feeling of us in them is so destructive 330 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: it actually makes me feel physically sick. Well, that's actually 331 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: a pretty good segue to one question. I wanted to 332 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 1: ask you which is Perusing some articles about you, one 333 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:54,919 Speaker 1: word keeps coming up, which is anger? You mean hot, sensual, sizzling. 334 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:58,400 Speaker 1: I wanted to focus on the more intellectual word, sure 335 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 1: to how I time this use angry white females? A 336 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: headline Atlantic did a piece the Anger of Samantha b 337 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 1: rolling Stone called you outraged? Are you really that piste off? Well, 338 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:17,439 Speaker 1: here's the deal, Like, well, I mean yeah, yes and no. 339 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 1: I mean I think we can all summon our outrage 340 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:25,160 Speaker 1: on specific stories. I don't stalk the earth like an 341 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:29,640 Speaker 1: outraged anger demon. I have a very level headed approach 342 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 1: to life and living. Um, you know, we have to 343 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: summon outrage to make the show. We have to tap 344 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 1: into that to make a show about things that we 345 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:42,639 Speaker 1: feel passionately about. Um, we tap into that to make 346 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: the show. But we live our lives as normal human beings. 347 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 1: But it must feel good to be able to express 348 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 1: that anger. You know, one of these articles talked about 349 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 1: you know, there was a time where women wouldn't feel 350 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 1: comfortable expressing their anger. So in a way, this is 351 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 1: a real This is real progress for women. Great good. 352 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 1: We should be free to speak our emotions like you know, 353 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:09,919 Speaker 1: I'm I'm turning forty seven next week, actually, happy birthday, 354 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: and thank you, and I'm just beyond I'm just done 355 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:16,919 Speaker 1: with it. You know. It's actually very helpful, and I 356 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 1: think that our experience is unique in television, you know, 357 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 1: Joe and I we laugh about this all the time 358 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 1: because we're both in our late forties and we just 359 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 1: don't care anymore. Our ambitions, Like this is our ambition 360 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 1: and television, we're we're living it right now, so there's 361 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: no future prospect that we have to be careful about. 362 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 1: Although for Hillary Clinton, you know, it's still a big problem, 363 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: you know, giving her permission to be honest. We have 364 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 1: a clip about her first debate performance from the show 365 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: Let's Listen. What she needs to do is provide the 366 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: substance with the entertainment. Come away enjoying it. Be a 367 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 1: happy warrior, enjoy what you're doing, you know, have a 368 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: little lightheartedness, show some humor, so be perfect, but not 369 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 1: too perfect. Save us from fascism, but like, don't be 370 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 1: a bit about it. No one was suggesting superficial changes 371 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: for Trump, like try wearing a suit that actually fits, 372 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: or embrace your baldness proudly, or don't snort your way 373 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 1: through the debate like Jean Pierre's prize trouble pick. But 374 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 1: you have to feel for Hillary Clinton in some ways, 375 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,919 Speaker 1: don't you. Sam. It's a very it's very interesting to 376 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,719 Speaker 1: live life and see this election through the prism of 377 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: having grown up a woman. You know, it is hard 378 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 1: to explain that when you are a woman. Usually, I 379 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:35,439 Speaker 1: mean from the moment you're born, you're kind of told 380 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 1: how to how to look, what is pleasing, how to 381 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:41,159 Speaker 1: be a people pleaser, how to be agreeable, how to 382 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 1: make people at ease with you. It's hard to learn 383 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: as a woman. It was hard for me to learn 384 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 1: to stop being a people pleaser. I still learned that 385 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 1: lesson all the time. It's hard for me to say 386 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 1: no to people. But eventually you learn it, and then 387 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 1: you can't take it anymore. You have to explain to 388 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 1: people that when you're a woman and then you walk 389 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 1: the planet, people tell you to smile all the time, 390 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:06,199 Speaker 1: they tell you how to look. You're constantly confronted with 391 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:10,360 Speaker 1: people's expectations, whether you're falling short of them or you're 392 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,920 Speaker 1: exceeding them, you're constantly told about it. You know, we're 393 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 1: so everybody's so conscious and aware of it all the time. 394 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 1: It's nice to feel free to just throw off those 395 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:23,919 Speaker 1: shackles and do the show we want to do. I 396 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 1: think that's one reason SNL that Kate mckennon's character, sure whatever, 397 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 1: it's really great of Hillary is so funny because you 398 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:35,640 Speaker 1: do sort of see that public private conflict and they 399 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 1: should do something if she's elected. Of her first day 400 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,120 Speaker 1: at the White House where she just you know, talk 401 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: about shackles, right, she does play the character with so 402 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 1: much joy you can feel it. It's it's pretty beautiful judgment. 403 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 1: Secretary Clinton, do you think you have better judgment than Mr? Trump? Yes? Yes, yes, 404 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 1: of course I do. Donald Trump has terrible judgment. He 405 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:03,439 Speaker 1: makes bad decisions. He spent his life cheating middle class laborers, 406 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: laborers like my own human father who made I guess 407 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 1: drapes or printed drapes or soul drapes or as someone 408 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 1: with drapes. And he was relatable and I am also relatable. 409 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: What do you think about some of the criticism late 410 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 1: night comedians and people like you have gotten from folks 411 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: like Ross doubt that I always have a hard time 412 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 1: pronouncing his last name. The columnist for The New York Times. 413 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: Did you read that column? I did read it, And 414 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: what did you think of that? It's Clinton, Samantha, I'm 415 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 1: sure it's not the racism that's the problem. Ross, It's 416 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: it's us. I'm sorry that we're making you all feel 417 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:47,119 Speaker 1: so uncomfortable. I don't I don't take responsibility for I 418 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 1: don't think that I have anything to do with Hillary 419 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 1: Clinton's rise or fall. I don't think I'm a problem. 420 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: But I guess his point is sort of this this 421 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 1: political correctness out of control. I sound like I'm channeling 422 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: Donald Trump in a way, but kind of that that 423 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:06,640 Speaker 1: all these institutions are taking these uh, liberally progressive stands. 424 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 1: I guess the Late Nine hosts have become more like 425 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: advocates for liberal views or special commentators rather than just 426 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 1: comedians who are making us laugh. I mean, it's I 427 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: think it's a lot. I think it's legitimate to say 428 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,360 Speaker 1: it's a long way to go from Jay Leno's humor, 429 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 1: which was very kind of down the middle. Isn't this 430 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: all crazy? Both sides are nuts to the position you've taken, 431 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:31,880 Speaker 1: which is much more about one side as nuts. I'm 432 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 1: not really a super huge fan of things that are 433 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: middle of the road. I don't That's not what I 434 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 1: personally respond to as a viewer. I don't like things 435 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: that are focus grouped to death. I like a strong 436 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 1: point of view. That's what I respond to. That's the 437 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: material I like. The show is not for everybody. I 438 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: would certainly assume I don't really care. I'm sure tb 439 00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 1: scres that's great that they don't care for for that, 440 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 1: But um, you know, I think what makes it niche 441 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 1: or special in some way is that we're not holding back. 442 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:11,360 Speaker 1: And that's that's all we have, is the purity of 443 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 1: our voice. And if you can't handle it or you 444 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 1: think that we're pushing you know what some people call 445 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: political correctness, I just call progress or decency, decency I 446 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: call well, I'm sorry that the world is not your 447 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,159 Speaker 1: liking anymore, and that you feel stripped of your power 448 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:33,360 Speaker 1: and authority to speak, But we are tired of not 449 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 1: having a voice, and so we will now speak. Do 450 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 1: you think any of this has gone too far? Like 451 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:42,719 Speaker 1: the rhetoric about safe spaces and universities and only certain 452 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: ideas are kind of allowed to be disseminated in particular communities. 453 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,679 Speaker 1: I don't I don't you know, it's hard to it's 454 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 1: hard to talk about in general terms. I think that, 455 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 1: you know, it is a fine line. I mean, I 456 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 1: obviously I'm all for being sensitive to people. But I 457 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,880 Speaker 1: think what find troubling and I have at times is 458 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:08,440 Speaker 1: the squelching of sort of free conversation, free speech, and 459 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 1: and and and the exchange of ideas that I think 460 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:15,360 Speaker 1: will move the ball forward in terms of having these 461 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 1: discussions that help, you know, at least acknowledge problems and 462 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 1: then come up with solutions. I think that's when maybe 463 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 1: the quote unquote political correctness can be an impediment rather 464 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 1: than something that builds sensitivity. You know. But people have 465 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 1: accused me of silencing them on our show, and I 466 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,159 Speaker 1: tend to disagree with that. I think I'm just I 467 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 1: think I'm just presenting an alternate viewpoint. I understand that 468 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:45,719 Speaker 1: it's difficult, and I understand that it's challenging to have 469 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 1: your expectations of the world challenged. But we're you know, 470 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 1: we're not trying to silence anybody. We're not trying to 471 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 1: squelsh conversation. We're trying to have conversations, and we're just 472 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:59,679 Speaker 1: expressing ourselves and all we're doing is presenting things on 473 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 1: a t V show. We're not shutting anybody down, per se. 474 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,679 Speaker 1: People are free to speak. We're just also free to 475 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 1: criticize them for doing so. I mean, you're former colleague. 476 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 1: Jeff Sucker, who now runs CNN gave a speech or 477 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 1: was interviewed at Harvard recently and he said if his 478 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 1: network made a mistake last year, it was putting on 479 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 1: these unfiltered Trump rallies and that he regretted doing them. Um, 480 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 1: what do you think the media's role is in all 481 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 1: of this, besides NBC and kind of building up the 482 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 1: Trump candidacy. Well, I think it is a little bit 483 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,120 Speaker 1: like that, you know, putting a frog in a pot 484 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,120 Speaker 1: of cold water and turning the burner on. I mean, 485 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,959 Speaker 1: we how could anyone have known? I mean, really, how 486 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: could we all have known? But there were enough times 487 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:51,199 Speaker 1: when it's funny actually being away. It's something that you 488 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,439 Speaker 1: always notice when you're out of the country and you 489 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:58,119 Speaker 1: watch Al Jazeera, or you watch BBC CNN International or 490 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:02,400 Speaker 1: BBC you know, or BBC b see. You see that 491 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 1: they don't necessarily fill their airtime with two hours of 492 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 1: an empty podium at a Trump rally. Okay, there's other 493 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 1: things going on in the world. They will air documentaries. 494 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 1: There are global issues we could be talking about, there 495 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 1: are stories we could be telling, things we could be seeing. 496 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 1: But that camera was very often trained on the tarmac 497 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,400 Speaker 1: of an airport with the Trump plane, you know, an 498 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,160 Speaker 1: hour and a half away from arriving, and we're talking 499 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 1: about that NonStop for hours and hours. So I generally 500 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 1: object to that kind of coverage. It's not specific to Trump. 501 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 1: I generally think that that is a waste of everybody's time. 502 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 1: Do you ever wonder if humor propelled this candidacy of 503 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 1: Donald Trump's or lack thereof a lot of people like 504 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 1: trace trace back to the White House correspondence dinner in 505 00:28:55,600 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: two thousand eleven, President Obama famously mocked Donald Trump, and 506 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 1: we have a clip of that. We thought we'd play 507 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 1: it for you and get your take. A kidding aside, 508 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: obviously we all know about your credentials and breadth of experience. 509 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 1: Um for example of seriously, just recently, in an episode 510 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 1: of Celebrity Apprentice at the Steakhouse, the men's cooking team, 511 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 1: uh did not impress the judges from Omaha Steaks, And 512 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 1: there was a lot of blame to go around, but you, 513 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 1: Mr Trump, recognized that the real problem was a lack 514 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 1: of leadership, and so ultimately you didn't blame Little John 515 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 1: or meat Loaf. You fired Gary Music. And these are 516 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,239 Speaker 1: the kind of decisions that would keep me up at 517 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 1: night out. It was brutal, brutal. And I don't know 518 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,479 Speaker 1: if you've watched to that video tape, but they're showing 519 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 1: Donald Trump throughout completely stone faced and not laughing at all, 520 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 1: not even pretending to laugh at himself. I guess it 521 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 1: was an article that George Herbert Walker Bush was someone 522 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 1: brought in Donald Trump as a potential VP candidate for him, right, 523 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 1: and he said thanks, but no things. So I think 524 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 1: he had political aspirations early on. But many say this 525 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 1: moment is what it really revenge, right, the idea was catalyzed. 526 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 1: You know What's so by this moment and Trump being 527 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: determined to show people, no, no, I'm a serious force 528 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 1: in politics. I'm not somebody who should just be laughed at. 529 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 1: I know someone who was. It was a joke writer 530 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 1: for you know, for those at those speeches, and I 531 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 1: we it's so funny because we were all laughing, where like, 532 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 1: oh my god, he wrote the did he write the 533 00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 1: joke that that started this whole goddamn s and he 534 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 1: might have, he might have. You know, we have another 535 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 1: we have another listener voicemail with a question. So here 536 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 1: we go, uh, Stephen Colbert, Larry Wilmore, John Oliver, and 537 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 1: Samantha by all disciples of John Stewart and The Daily Show. 538 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: What does that say about John Stewart and after his 539 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 1: trump rant on The Late Show? How nostalgic and enjoyable 540 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 1: was that to watch? Thank you? That's a great question too. 541 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 1: I love I love watching John I was. I loved 542 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 1: watching him on Coldbert. You know. I when he's done 543 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 1: a couple of things on Colbert, I've really enjoyed it. 544 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 1: He did something on our show. Actually, he did a 545 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 1: cold open for us that was really funny. Yeah. You know, 546 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 1: I don't have much. I don't have nostalgia for the past, 547 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 1: but I do think of it. I think of it 548 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: all the time. It informs everything I do. Really, Um, 549 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 1: I miss you know, I do miss him. I'm looking 550 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 1: forward to his new project, whatever it is. I guess 551 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 1: we'll all find out. We have to hear one more 552 00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 1: Samantha by moment before we say goodbye, and you've been 553 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 1: so nice and generous. We can't let you go without 554 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 1: playing a little of your bit on the excess Hollywood 555 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 1: tape from two thousand five. Let's listen, that's two thousand 556 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 1: five Access Hollywood tape. Wasn't just lewd remarks. Trump was 557 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 1: literally explaining a time tested strategy for sexual assault. In fact, 558 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 1: take a tic tach and grab him by the pussy 559 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 1: is the closest thing to a plan. Donald Trump has 560 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 1: described this entirely. What did you think when you first 561 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 1: heard that tape? I it's so funny. Someone at work. 562 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 1: I hadn't heard it. I don't I was. I guess 563 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 1: I was busy doing something and I hadn't heard it 564 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 1: un till the very end of the day. And he 565 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 1: gave me the laptop and he was like, I'm just 566 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 1: gonna watch you watching this video. And wait, John was 567 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 1: my jock had completely dropped. And he was like, it 568 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 1: gets better. And then it happened, and then the world 569 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 1: shifted ever so slightly to the left and nothing's been 570 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 1: the same since. So after the election, are you going 571 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 1: to be sad? Brian and I started this by saying, 572 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 1: I can't wait till it's over. Ryan said he's going 573 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 1: to be sad when it's over. So you're in my camp, 574 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 1: in your camp, one dent. I can't wait. There's so 575 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 1: much other stuff. There is actually so much other stuff 576 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 1: to talk about, but we can't. I mean you can't. 577 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 1: We can't talk about it. It's completely We're paralyzed until 578 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 1: this thing is over. There are so many other stories 579 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 1: to tell you discussion of the sweating. I don't want to. 580 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 1: I can't handle it anymore. I just want to know 581 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 1: who the winner is so I can live my life. 582 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 1: I feel like we are going to need a period 583 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 1: of recuperation. We have a great national anxiety. I'm hearing 584 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 1: it from everybody. You should have seen my offices on 585 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 1: the day of the first debate. We were all pale. 586 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 1: People were shivering. I shivering. I've never hit it out. 587 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 1: Had we all somehow had the flu just watching with 588 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 1: so much fear in our hearts. It's time for it 589 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:15,400 Speaker 1: to end. We need I just we all need to nationally. 590 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 1: We need to cover the country in a dome and 591 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 1: pipe and spam music. And you know there is going 592 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 1: to be one more cathartic, slash disturbing moment before the 593 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 1: election actually happens, which is the Al Smith Dinner here 594 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 1: in New York that actually happens the day that this 595 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:36,360 Speaker 1: podcast is released. It's a white tie dinner in which 596 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 1: both Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump. They sit on a 597 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 1: dais rather near each other, and the tradition is that 598 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:48,319 Speaker 1: they each give sort of self deprecating humorous remarks at 599 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,399 Speaker 1: this dinner. I'm so fearful now I have to tell 600 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 1: you it is. I've gone for a couple of them, 601 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,880 Speaker 1: and it is so much fun. I couldn't believe that 602 00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump agreed agreed to go to 603 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,760 Speaker 1: this dinner. And they do about like a five minute 604 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:07,319 Speaker 1: stand up five or ten minutes, and they obviously get 605 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 1: their best writers. So honestly, it is going to be 606 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 1: such excuse me for cussing such a ship show. I'm 607 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 1: actually pitted out thinking about it. This year, I am 608 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 1: going you are going, Wait, do you want to go? 609 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 1: What day is that? It is? Thursday? Do you want to? God? 610 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 1: I can't why you have to rerange your software? I'm 611 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 1: going to be in Miami. I wish you didn't invite me. 612 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 1: Just for the record, do you have to go? But 613 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,800 Speaker 1: on the other hand, why does anyone want to be president. 614 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 1: They have to do that. Oh my god, gonna be crazy. 615 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:44,759 Speaker 1: Oh no, well, if if your plans change and you 616 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 1: want to be my date, oh I want to be 617 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,800 Speaker 1: your dates. And actually we can bring your husband and 618 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,400 Speaker 1: because my husband's coming to really we can go on 619 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 1: a double date to the Al Smith dinner. We will 620 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:59,719 Speaker 1: all be sweating. Sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, it's just 621 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,400 Speaker 1: being mean girl. I'm sorry, Brian. I can try to 622 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 1: get you a ticket to the balcony. Our husband's will 623 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 1: sweat right through their jackets. Just well, you are so 624 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:17,320 Speaker 1: generous to come and do our podist. Isn't she the greatest? 625 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 1: Now you're the greatest. There are some people who like 626 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 1: me too, like you, I think. Anyway, thanks so much, 627 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,839 Speaker 1: and I want to get together with you all right 628 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:36,759 Speaker 1: after the election. We'll be so happy. This color will 629 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:40,920 Speaker 1: come back to our cheeks. We're going to live. That 630 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:44,040 Speaker 1: was so much fun. I just love her. And by 631 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 1: the way, Full Frontal with Samantha b Airs Mondays on 632 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 1: TBS at thirty Central. Do you think she'll be my friend? 633 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 1: I think she'll be your friend. I think she already 634 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 1: is your friend. Actually I know, but I want to 635 00:36:56,120 --> 00:37:00,040 Speaker 1: hang out with her and with her maybe yeah, I 636 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,759 Speaker 1: hope so she said she was, and all of you 637 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,640 Speaker 1: were invited to mean while, I want to thank Gianna 638 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:09,400 Speaker 1: Palmer for producing the show, and Jared O'Connell for engineering 639 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 1: and mixing it. And thanks to Mark Phillips for our 640 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:15,320 Speaker 1: theme music, which I really like. I play it on weekends. 641 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,800 Speaker 1: Our next episode will air less than a week before 642 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,840 Speaker 1: election day. Yea, So tell us, how are you getting 643 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:24,320 Speaker 1: through the final slog of a very long, very tense 644 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:28,400 Speaker 1: campaign season. What are your coping mechanisms? Leave us a 645 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:33,799 Speaker 1: message at four four, six three seven. So you heard 646 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 1: earlier what other listeners are saying about the show, Mostly 647 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,279 Speaker 1: nice thing, mostly thank you, thank you, because I'm very 648 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,440 Speaker 1: bad at taking criticism. Well, what did you say earlier? 649 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,840 Speaker 1: You take it, uh seriously, but not personally. I didn't 650 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:50,839 Speaker 1: say that, but I'm going to start anyway. You can 651 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 1: have your say two you can rate and review us 652 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,960 Speaker 1: on iTunes, and don't forget to subscribe as well. We'll 653 00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:05,880 Speaker 1: talk to you next time. By I hear music, but 654 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:11,280 Speaker 1: there's no one there. I see blossoms, but the trees 655 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:17,080 Speaker 1: are there. That's from That's right, okay, gong me, what's up? 656 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 1: This is Hannibal Buris and I got a new podcast 657 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,399 Speaker 1: coming out soon on the ill Wolf Network. It's called 658 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:28,480 Speaker 1: Handsome Rambler. 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