1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Good morning to you. If it's Saturday morning, 2 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: good afternoon, if it's Saturday afternoon, good evening, or good night. 3 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 1: If it's Saturday evening or night. And if it's not Saturday, 4 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: then what are you even doing here? This is our 5 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: Selects episode selection for the week. I am your co 6 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: host Charles W Chuck Bryant, and I went with How 7 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 1: jet Lag Works is from February twelfth, twenty thirteen. And 8 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: jet lag is just a bit of a drag for 9 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: anyone that travels over long distances. We've all probably felt 10 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: it at one point or another, and this is a 11 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 1: great explainer on exactly how it works and how you 12 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: can best combat it. So enjoy, happy flying. Welcome to 13 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: Stuff you Should Know, a production of iHeartRadio. Hey, and 14 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark with me as 15 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: always as Charles. To you, Chuck Bryant, who just flew 16 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: in to be here. Yeah, I was, I was on 17 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:07,960 Speaker 1: the concord. I was just in Paris. Dude, dude, I've 18 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 1: seen a concord. Oh yeah yeah. The Air and Space 19 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 1: Museum m not the one in downtown DC, yeah, but 20 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: the one out by Dullest Airport. At the new museum. 21 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:24,559 Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's awesome. I wanted on board so bad. 22 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 1: But it's like you're standing right next to and underneath 23 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 1: a concord. It's cool. They also have like Discovery Space 24 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: Shuttle Discovery, You're standing right next to that. It's a 25 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: really neat museum. Why did they end up grounding the concord? 26 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: Was it not cost efficient? It was? It wasn't and 27 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: like any time there was any kind of problem, like 28 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: everyone died really oh my god. Yeah. But also the 29 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: US outlaw and supersonic air travel, so like you couldn't 30 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: fly across the interior of the continent, okay, um, which 31 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: cut out like a lot of revenue source. Yeah. So 32 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: basically it was just um and I don't think Air 33 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: France or British Airways ever even broke even in all 34 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: those years on Concord flights. Yeah. But and then in 35 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: two thousand and three there was that most recent crash, 36 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: that last crash, and after that that was it for 37 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: the Concord. Yeah. I think, Um, if I'm not mistaken, 38 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: my friend Justin who you know, his mom when they 39 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:25,079 Speaker 1: had like some final flights of the Concord, flight of 40 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 1: the Concord Yeah, she went on one of those. Yeah, 41 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: as like just to do it. I think I'd be 42 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 1: wrong with that, but I seem to remember that from 43 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: my past. You could go from London to New York 44 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: in five hours? What is usually like eight? Yeah, eight 45 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 1: or nine or something. Yeah. And do you remember when 46 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 1: Phil Collins played Band Aid, he played a show in London, 47 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: they got on the concord flute to New York and 48 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: then played a show there. Yeah, like in the same night. Yeah, 49 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 1: that was pretty cool. That was it live a Yeah, 50 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: but you know what's the difference. The one thing I 51 00:02:55,680 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 1: knew was that it wasn't far made Phil Collins. Oh 52 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:03,359 Speaker 1: did he play Farmade? I don't think so. That was 53 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: more Willie Willie and Mellencamp and Neil Young and all 54 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 1: those cats. Yeah. So, um, Phil Collins flying back and 55 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: forth between London and New York to deliver his concert. 56 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: So thank god that happened. I love Phil Collins, I 57 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 1: think though, really, Oh yeah, dude, that wouldn't have been 58 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: possible had it not been for something that we'd like 59 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 1: to call the jet age. Yes. Starting around the late fifties, 60 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 1: the jet became the preferred motive travel, which, interestingly a 61 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: ticket on a jet was actually less than a ticket 62 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: on like a propeller piston engine plane. Oh, relate first, Yeah, interesting, 63 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: isn't that interesting? Yeah, But in the late fifties you 64 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: had McDonnell, Douglas and Boeing really kind of duking it 65 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: out to create the jet to get people very quickly 66 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: from one part of the country to another. Yeah, and 67 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: it opened up commercial air travel and all of a sudden, 68 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: you didn't have to be the richest person in the 69 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: world to get from you know, New York to la 70 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: you know, without having to drive or taking forever to 71 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: get there a train, prop plane, whatever. Yeah, and admit 72 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: a jet lag essentially. Well, there you go, Thanks for 73 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 1: finishing my intro for me. Well, we've only been around, 74 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 1: we've been leaping time zones for less than a hundred years, 75 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: so there are some beliefs that eventually we may evolve 76 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: out of jet lag. Yeah, but for now, we haven't 77 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: been doing it long enough. Now, it's been like fifty 78 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: sixty years. Yeah, our bodies to even know what the 79 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: heck is going on, right, And that's pretty much what 80 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 1: jet lag is. Our body does not know what's going on. Yeah, 81 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: there's another term for jet lag. It's called desynchronosis. That's 82 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 1: a great word for it. Yeah, your body has a 83 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:54,840 Speaker 1: biological clock, and when you travel from one time zone 84 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 1: to another in fairly short order, your body gets out 85 00:04:57,920 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 1: of sync with its environment, and all of a sudden, 86 00:04:59,880 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: all cues that uses to regulate itself and all sorts 87 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 1: of things that your body does it gets out of sink. 88 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: And what happens when you get out of sink, Well, 89 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 1: there's a lot of stuff that happens, Chuck, I'm glad 90 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: you asked that. You can have cognitive problems, problems thinking 91 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: and problem solving and just general mental problems short term 92 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 1: of course and temporary, but still you're not thinking quite right. 93 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: Health problems. There is a study in two thousand and 94 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 1: six from the University of Virginia that found out that 95 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 1: lab rats who were given jet lag, who were exposed 96 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: to simulated jet lag, yeah, which is basically I think 97 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: a DC to Paris flight once a week for I 98 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: guess most of their lives. Probably older ones died much 99 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,840 Speaker 1: more quickly than younger ones. Yes, so if you're old, 100 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: which I've noticed that my jet lag has gotten worse 101 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: as i've aged. Yeah, for sure, I didn't used to 102 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: get jetlagged at all. Yeah, I didn't know what the 103 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 1: big problem was, and now it's like one of the 104 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 1: worst things that can ever happen to you. Yeah. Well yeah, fatigue, alertness, irritability, disorientation, depression, 105 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: gas rontestinal illnesses. Yeah, it can really mess you up. 106 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: That comes from flying too. Get air gas. It just 107 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:25,479 Speaker 1: the change in pressure like creates really gas. It's not 108 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 1: like methane or anything. It's just like gas bubble in 109 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: your guts. So you've like fart a lot on planes 110 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 1: or after you got you can as a result. Sure, 111 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 1: and you know what you should do. People. By the way, 112 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna insert some flying etiquette here in there. Are 113 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: you gonna get up and go to the bathroom and fart? 114 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:48,039 Speaker 1: Don't fart in your seat? Why are you looking at me? Well, 115 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: because you're a cross room me. Okay, now, I just 116 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: you know me and flying Now it's just so annoying 117 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: to me because it's like a eighteenth century, you know, 118 00:06:56,480 --> 00:07:00,599 Speaker 1: bus station these days when you were flying he laughing. 119 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:05,919 Speaker 1: Everybody's wearing like pajamas and like teenage girls with their boots. 120 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, it's stressed appropriately. You don't even have 121 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: to dress up. But it's like, like, I don't want 122 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:16,119 Speaker 1: to see what you look like in your living room, 123 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: you know. I know, Well, you take your shoes off, 124 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: which is something I'm There's nothing wrong with that because 125 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: my feet do not smell. If my feet smelled in 126 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: my shoes smelled, I wouldn't take them off. I'm very, 127 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: very aware of that kind of thing. But it's funny 128 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: that you bring that up because the other night I 129 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: watched Planes, Trains, and Automobiles, which is that movie really 130 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: holds up, and John Candy takes his shoes off and 131 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: it takes the socks off, and I thought, well, I 132 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: don't take my socks off, right, But I thought of 133 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: you because I know that you think that's a terrible 134 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: thing to do. Yeah, I just think he should remain 135 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: fully clothed when you're out in public like that. I'm 136 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: cool with taking the shoes off, as long as the 137 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: socks stay on and your feet don't stay But okay, 138 00:07:56,320 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: so you're on a plane, You're you've got all these 139 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: symptoms awaiting you, and if you are part of the 140 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 1: ninety four percent of Americans, you are going to get 141 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: jet lag. Yeah, I wonder what's going on with a 142 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: six percent. They're probably like younger people who don't know 143 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: what they're talking about. You think, yes, interesting because it's biological. 144 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: I just I bet you there's something to that six percent. Besides, 145 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: you're five years old, you think. I doubt if they 146 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: interviewed a lot of five year olds about jet lack 147 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: for the study, well not five, but I mean, like, 148 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: I think I was American ager. I was like, what's 149 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:34,959 Speaker 1: everyone's problem with jet Like I don't understand what they're 150 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 1: talking about. Yeah. So, And I specifically remember being interviewed 151 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety eight to ask if I got jetlag, 152 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 1: and I remember going like, no, no, but it is 153 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 1: a problem. It's unpleasant for some people. But if you're 154 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 1: in the military, or if you're some huge, big shot CEO, 155 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: they worry that, you know, could impair you as a 156 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:59,319 Speaker 1: pilot or as a soldier, or as a big thinker 157 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: and the head of a company or deal closer. Yeah, 158 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:06,319 Speaker 1: you don't want some some jet lags ceo lady going 159 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: in there and not making good decisions and making a 160 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: bad deal. Yeah, how can you be a game changer 161 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 1: if you don't have your a game on. That's got 162 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: to be the motto of some company. It probably is. 163 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: I thought I just made it up knowing the plug 164 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:28,079 Speaker 1: somebody like Price Fister or something. And then what was 165 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 1: the other study? In two thousand and ten the Universe 166 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,719 Speaker 1: at cal they did a study of hamsters. Yeah, and 167 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: it said that um on the health tip that the 168 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:39,599 Speaker 1: the lab rats created new neurons at about half the 169 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: rate of rats who did not fly. So yeah, that's 170 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: not good. Now your brain is literally not functioning as 171 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: well as it should. It's not growing. Nope. Um, And 172 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 1: I said about the dying from that study about rats 173 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: dying from being exposed to jet lag, Yeah, the older 174 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: ones and um, they've also found that in humans you 175 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 1: can have a harder menstruation if you're a lady, and 176 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: you can develop heart disease and diabetes more readily. Basically, 177 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: your entire body is just totally thrown out of whack. 178 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 1: You're hungrier at weird times. Sure, you're just out of it. 179 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: You're you just don't feel good, stressed out, you have 180 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: a lot of stress hormones going. So what's going on, Chuck? 181 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:33,199 Speaker 1: What is jet lag? Jet lag? Well, we need to 182 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 1: talk about the biological clock that we all have. It's 183 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: basically the article here describes it of groupings of interacting 184 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: molecules and cells throughout the body. That's a good way 185 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:46,439 Speaker 1: to say it. Everything's working together. They tell our glands, Hey, 186 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:48,959 Speaker 1: release these hormones at this time of day to make 187 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 1: you sleepy, melatonin, which we'll get to in more detail. 188 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:54,719 Speaker 1: Maybe adjust your body temperature. It's a couple hours where 189 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 1: you're gonna wake up, so let's make you really hot 190 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: for some reason. And the body is all in tuned 191 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 1: with each other, all these things firing like a master timepiece. 192 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: Who wrote this anyway? This was that was a pretty 193 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: good Patrick Tiger. He's done some good stuff. Yeah, it 194 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 1: is a master timepiece. And there are twenty thousand nerve 195 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: cells called the super a chiasmatic nucleus we'll called the SCN. 196 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: It's at the front of the brain, right near the 197 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 1: optic nerve, and that is what keeps your circadian rhythm 198 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 1: in your sleep and waking cycles going. Yeah, like clockwork. 199 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,839 Speaker 1: That's it. That's the biological clock the sea. Yep, it's 200 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: pretty neat um And the fact that it's located by 201 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: the optic nerve is kind of telling. Yeah, because one 202 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: of the ways that it sets itself it actually has 203 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: a it's on a set cycle twenty four point six 204 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,559 Speaker 1: five hour cycle. Yeah, and it's since it's off a 205 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: little bit, um, it uses cues to reset itself. And 206 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 1: one of the big cues it uses is natural light. Yeah. 207 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: Some people think that it's the light, that the brain 208 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: is super photosensitive, that light really is the key to 209 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: everything there. Well, yeah, like the pineal gland apparently, even 210 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 1: though it's buried inside the brain, is very light responsive. 211 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: And the pineal gland is one of the things that 212 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 1: makes or it makes melatonin, which has to do with 213 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: sleep cycles. Melatonin is the good sleepy time stuff. So, um, 214 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: this whole, this whole rhythm, that twenty four points sixty 215 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: five hour cycle is called your circadian rhythm, circadian rhythm, right, 216 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: And when it's time to sleep, when it's about the 217 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: time that you went to sleep the night before and 218 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: it's dark out, your brain's melatonin production increases. And also 219 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: you've been building up in your head all day this 220 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: stuff called a DNA sign right, and that they recently 221 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:51,199 Speaker 1: found has been linked to being sleepy. What's called sleep pressure. 222 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: You know, when you try to stay up and you're 223 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: just getting sleepier and sleeper it's harder and harder to resist. 224 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 1: That experience is called sleep pressure, and they think that 225 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: it's a DNA sign a response for that, and it 226 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: accumulates in the brain until finally about the time that 227 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 1: you should be falling asleep, the sleep pressure is just 228 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:09,679 Speaker 1: too much to overcome and you fall asleep. Yeah. My, uh, 229 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 1: Emily's family, my Ohio family has a lot of sleep pressure. 230 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: We call it the yearly gas leak over the holidays. 231 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:21,559 Speaker 1: That's funny, Emily. I'll look up at like seven forty five, 232 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 1: We'll be watching TV and like everybody's asleep after like 233 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: a big turkey dinner or something like that. Well, after 234 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: drinking all day and eating, oh yeah, stuff like that. Yeah, 235 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 1: and it's all warm and toasty, and so I get it, 236 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:35,559 Speaker 1: but it's still kind of funny. Well, it's called the 237 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: gas leak, and you just made me feel so cozy 238 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:40,679 Speaker 1: in that description. It is in a very cozy household. Um, 239 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: so you get the melatonin production increased, you got a 240 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: DNA sign built up, and you reach that sleep pressure 241 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 1: threshold and all this stuff is kind of going on 242 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 1: this general pattern that's a tune to you in your rhythms. Yeah, 243 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 1: you know, Are you a night owl? Do you like 244 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 1: to get up early? Do you like to sleep in late? 245 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: Like this is your own circadian rhythm. Yeah, and if 246 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: you mess any of that up without flying, you're going 247 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: to be thrown out of sorts. If you're a night 248 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: owl and all of a sudden you get a job 249 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 1: or you gotta get up super early, it's gonna suck 250 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 1: for a little while until your body adjusts. It is 251 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: gonna suck for a little while. Um, And it takes 252 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: a while for the body to adjust. But it also 253 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: we've never really, except for the last sixty years, we've 254 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: never really had the capability of exposing the body to 255 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: a sudden shock of just falling out of rhythm like that, 256 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: Like I'm flying to Australia right exactly. Yeah, where there's 257 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: like a twelve or thirteen hour difference. Man, I've never 258 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 1: I've done the europe thing, but I've never experienced yet 259 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: like to that degree. I imagine that it would take 260 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: me quite a while to adjust. It does, and it 261 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: sucks because it takes away a percentage of your vacation almost. 262 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: It definitely does. When you know, when you me and 263 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: I went to Japan, Yeah, got there out of bed. 264 00:14:54,360 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 1: We flew there, we flew west to east, No, east 265 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 1: to west, because we flew up and over Canada and 266 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: down Russia, which is easier can it was supposedly, but 267 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: even still, like when we got there, it was like 268 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: three in the morning and we're just like wide away. Yeah, 269 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: and that took a very little while to adjust. But 270 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: when we flew west to east on the way back 271 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: get killed. It took two solid weeks of being almost 272 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 1: like clinically out of our minds. Wow, before we got 273 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: back on our sleep. For that, actually, you were pretty whacky, 274 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: do you remember. Oh, yeah, there was a period where 275 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: like the first four days when we got up, we 276 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 1: would we would both wake up in the middle of 277 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 1: the night, wouldn't even talk. We'd just get up and 278 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: go out to the car and drive to crystals and 279 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: like eat some crystals and go back home and go 280 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: to bed. Yeah, and like we'd never done that before 281 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: and haven't done it since. But like we just did 282 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: it for like four nights in a row because of 283 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: jet like, so we were doing stuff like that all 284 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: the time. That's weird. But yeah, going from west to 285 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: east is the worst, and especially if it's like that 286 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: was a thirteen hour time difference. Yeah, what do they 287 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 1: call that? It's a phase delay going east to west 288 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: in a phase advance going west to east right. And 289 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: it's kind of like you can look at it like 290 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: if you're if your clock, if you're looking at a 291 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 1: clock and bedtime is a set time. In phase delay, 292 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 1: you're just taking that hour hand and moving it back, 293 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: so you're just putting off your bedtime a little longer. Yeah. 294 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 1: With phase advance, you're moving that hour hand closer suddenly 295 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: to your bedtime, even though your body is not ready 296 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: to sleep. It's bedtime now. Wow. Wow. Well, it's just 297 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: interesting that the body under it, you know, I mean, 298 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 1: it makes sense. I guess what I find interesting is 299 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: that we've figured out a way to technologically and artificially 300 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: subject the body to like this kind of shock, and 301 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: that it responds the way that it does. Yeah, you 302 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 1: know that. It's it starts like overproducing this hormone or 303 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 1: under producing that hormone and you go crazy. Well yeah, 304 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 1: and since you mentioned it, that's one of the things 305 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: that happened. It really it literally disrupts biological functions, releases 306 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: stress hormones, drives up your blood pressure, sends inflammation stimulating 307 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: chemical markers through your arteries. It's gonna mess up your appetite, 308 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 1: like you said, because you're used to eating at regular times, 309 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 1: and that's why you were eating crystal because it was 310 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: that was probably a dinner time in Japan, I guess. Yeah. 311 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: But haven't you ever noticed, like when you get up early, 312 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 1: like say you have an early flight or something like, 313 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 1: you can get up at a normal time, say you 314 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: normally get up at eight, Yeah, you're maybe you're a 315 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: little hungry or whatever, but you could skip breakfast. It's 316 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: not a big deal. But if you're up and like 317 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 1: moving around and at six or something like that, Yeah, 318 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 1: for some reason, you're just starving. Like hasn't that ever 319 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 1: happened to you? Yeah, I'm usually not super hungry in 320 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: the morning, regardless of what time I wake up. If 321 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 1: I'm up really early, I am ravenous for some reason. 322 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:41,199 Speaker 1: And I'll also find and I've always wonder what this was, 323 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: that I'm not as hungry if I don't eat anything, 324 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 1: but if I have like the banana, then it just 325 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: makes me super hungry, right, Yeah, yeah, Or have you 326 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: noticed if you have like red meat the night before 327 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: whenever you get up the next day. You're just ravenous too. Really, yeah, 328 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 1: that happens to me. Interesting. I don't need a lot 329 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 1: of red meat anymore, but I'll oh you don't, no, 330 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 1: I mean just because Emily doesn't. So, but yeah, I'll 331 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: still have my steak every now and then. What are 332 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 1: you eating these days? I mean, same thing I've always 333 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: been eaten since I've been with Emily, which is a 334 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: lot of chicken and turkey and fish. What kind of fish? Uh? 335 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 1: It depends. I'll make like tilapia tacos or grilled salmon 336 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: or nice like uh, what's the more flaky? Like not 337 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: my heat, but I'll eat my he to the flounder. Yeah. Yeah, 338 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 1: I'll just go to the the farmer's market and what looks 339 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 1: what looks good and fresh? You know they just took 340 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 1: mackerel off the Safe to Eat or or Fine to 341 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: Eat environmentally list? Oh really, yeah, I didn't know it 342 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: was on that. Yeah. Tuna, of course, love tuna, oh man, 343 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 1: But you shouldn't eat a ton of tuna either. I 344 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:43,640 Speaker 1: think the mercury. Oh is that right? Yeah, I eat 345 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 1: a lot of raw tuna. Yeah that they say that, 346 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 1: you know. Jeremy Piven supposedly had some sort of mercury 347 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 1: poisoning for eating too much sushi, which is why he knew. Yeah, 348 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 1: he had to bag out of some movie or show 349 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:58,159 Speaker 1: because of it. But then I think later on they said, no, 350 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: I think he was using as an excuse and it 351 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 1: wasn't verified that he had mercury poisoning. That's a lot 352 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 1: like the twinkie defense. It meant yet Jeremy Piven had 353 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 1: the tuna defense. But that's why they did say, if 354 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 1: you're pregnant, you shouldn't need a lot of things. Oh yeah, sushi, Yeah, yeah, 355 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: for sure. Man, that was a sidetrack. Yeah, I think 356 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: I'm hungry, is what the deal? All right? So why 357 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: is it so difficult to overcome Josh? Well, like we said, um, 358 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 1: your body's your buddy's circadian rhythm is not exactly twenty 359 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: four hours, twenty four point six five hours, and so 360 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 1: every day you're ready for sleep a little later and 361 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: a little later and a little later. And that's why 362 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: Ellie Patrick Kiger thinks you are. It's easier to adjust 363 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 1: going from east to west because that means you're gonna 364 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:11,439 Speaker 1: have to stay up later to hit your normal bedtime. Anyway, 365 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: and since we're already kind of doing that. It's not 366 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:15,160 Speaker 1: that big of a deal. And it's not just him. 367 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:18,919 Speaker 1: I think that's proven. Like NASA says the same thing, well, 368 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:23,719 Speaker 1: NASA and Patrick Kiger. Another reason is is not just 369 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 1: light body temperature we said fluctuates. It's minimum temperature. Oh 370 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I thought it was maximum three hours before 371 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: you get up. It's minimum temperature. Yeah, all right. I 372 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 1: thought you like got really hot, like right before you 373 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: woke up. You might, but Team in is typically three 374 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 1: hours before you normally awake, okay. And they found that 375 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 1: if you're if you have to wake up like during 376 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 1: Team in, what your body is normally used to being 377 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: at Team in, right, that's when your jet legs the 378 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: absolute worst. And I think it's because that's a key 379 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 1: that your body, your whole body has, is like Okay, 380 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: we're still in deep sleep and we're going to be 381 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 1: in a while, and then all of a sudden it's like, 382 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: oh I have to wake up and go to this meeting. 383 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,159 Speaker 1: The body's not it's it's whacked out of its normal 384 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: process of waking. I wonder if that sometimes if I 385 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 1: get up super early, I have a harder time warming 386 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: up through the day. I wonder if that has it 387 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: makes a difference. I would bet it does. Like if 388 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 1: you're used to waking up at a certain body temperature, Yeah, 389 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: you know it takes care that no matter what, every 390 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: single time, no matter why you're cold or how cold 391 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: you are, go spend fifteen minutes in a sauna, yeah, 392 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: and you will be right as rain. Yeah, it's just 393 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 1: a miracle wood box. Yeah. I do that with the 394 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 1: hot shower with the steam. Sometimes it doesn't take with 395 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:43,159 Speaker 1: me really Yeah. Sometimes like I'll still get out of 396 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: the shower and like I'm chilled to the core still. 397 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 1: How you sit in there, Like I will stay in 398 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: there for a while and like really try to heat up, 399 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: and like most of the time, like it will get 400 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: my temperature like up. Yeah. Some with a sauna, it's 401 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: like resetting it back to your normal setting every time 402 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:03,400 Speaker 1: you're kind of cold. Though for a man, like you're 403 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 1: often chili when I'm not. And I know I'm super hot. 404 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 1: You are very hot, but I think you're also a 405 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 1: little cold. Put it's put us together and we make 406 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 1: a very well adjusted exactly human body temperature wise, very middle. Um. 407 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 1: So ask anyone what their remedy is for jet lag 408 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: and you'll get ten different answers. Ask tender for people, 409 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 1: you get ten different answers. That's what you say. Um, 410 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: ask Bruce Willis what is he going to say? Make 411 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 1: fist fits toes? Make fist with your toes. It's always 412 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: been one of my favorite things, and I've tried it 413 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 1: and it's silly. Of course it doesn't work, but I 414 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 1: just do it now because it wasn't die Hard. Yeah, 415 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,159 Speaker 1: Argyle told him to do that. No, no no, no, it 416 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 1: was a guy on the plane. I thought it was 417 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: Argyle the driver. It was. It was on the plane 418 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 1: as ever flying in and of course in die Hard, 419 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:52,479 Speaker 1: it was just to set up to get him without 420 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 1: shoes and socks on. Yeah, because I played a part 421 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 1: in the movie. That's a good movie. She's Day Finster. Yeah. Um. 422 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 1: But like I said, some people use herbal remedies. Some 423 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 1: people take melatonin, which is not FDA proof. But you 424 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 1: can take melatonin and uthotic melotonin. We should say it 425 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,360 Speaker 1: saysn't this article it tells you how much it taken 426 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,360 Speaker 1: win and we'll tell you too, but we should also 427 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 1: add a disclaimer. Melatonin has interactions with drugs like diabetes drugs, 428 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 1: blood thinners, birth control pills. You may want to check 429 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 1: out what melatonin might do with your medication before you 430 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: take it. You definitely should. Yeah, some people just say, 431 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm gonna take a red eye and 432 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take some valume and drink some Scotch and 433 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 1: just knock myself out for the whole flight and that'll 434 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:41,120 Speaker 1: do the trick. Yeah, that works if you want to die, Yeah, 435 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 1: explain well, there was a thirty six year old woman 436 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: who recently died of a stroke because and she was 437 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: otherwise healthy apparently, Yeah, but she passed out on a 438 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 1: seven hour flight or went to sleep or whatever. But 439 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: she slept for seven hours on a flight and developed thrombosis, 440 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 1: which is a blood clot and apparently it went from 441 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 1: probably her leg to her brain. Yeah. And again when 442 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,360 Speaker 1: we went to Japan, I think it was Japan Airlines, 443 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 1: they make you get up. Yeah, they're like, okay, it's 444 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 1: like it's big, it's play stretching time. Yeah, and they 445 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 1: show you how to do it, like sitting down at 446 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: your seat, but they're also like, why don't you get 447 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: up to walk around? So wow, Yeah, you kind of 448 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 1: have to because you can develop a fatal blood clot 449 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,360 Speaker 1: just from sitting on a plane because of the change 450 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,479 Speaker 1: in pressure and just sitting for that long. Yeah, you're 451 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: not supposed to sleep in a sitting position, right. The 452 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,919 Speaker 1: body is meant to be horizontal and prone, right, But 453 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 1: that's just for rich people on flack. Oh up in 454 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: first class now where they have the sleepers, Yeah, that's 455 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 1: they're so obnoxious. They should put first class in the 456 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 1: back so you don't have to walk through that scene. 457 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: I know. The funniest is when they have like the 458 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: gauzy curtains separating first class coach and you can it's like, 459 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,680 Speaker 1: I see that you're having a salad. I can see 460 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 1: your salad. That hotel looks nice. Give me some of 461 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:03,640 Speaker 1: that salad. So there are all kinds of home remedies 462 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: in Little Wives tales of what you can do, right, 463 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: But if you're an expert, like if you're a NASA 464 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:14,679 Speaker 1: or if you are Chicago's Rush University Medical Center, you 465 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 1: have some real advice like gradually adjusting your circadian rhythm 466 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 1: actually using a lightbox, which is a lot of effort, 467 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 1: but I bet it works. It does. It also works 468 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 1: for seasonal effective disorder. Sure, So there's actually I came 469 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: across the paper and all tweeted out and posted on 470 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 1: Facebook or something, blog about it. We'll do something with it. 471 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,120 Speaker 1: But because I couldn't get I couldn't get it enough 472 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 1: in time to really speak about it. But there's there's 473 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 1: this guy who came up with a paper that's basically 474 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:54,439 Speaker 1: like a computational method for offsetting jet leg and figuring 475 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,879 Speaker 1: out how to adjust your schedule accordingly. Is it like 476 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 1: this in the article? Yeah, that's the impression that I have, 477 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 1: but it's like really detailed, but basically Chicago's Russia University 478 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: Medical Center researchers say, what you want to do is, 479 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 1: if you're going from west to east, which is the 480 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 1: devil one right phase advance, you want to start going 481 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 1: to bed an hour earlier every day. Yeah, and like 482 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: several days, maybe like five days before your trip, you 483 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: want to start going to bed an hour earlier, and 484 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,400 Speaker 1: not just an hour earlier across the board, but earlier 485 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 1: and earlier and earlier. To wear right before your trip, 486 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:32,679 Speaker 1: you're going to bed about five hours earlier. And if 487 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 1: you're going to take melatonin and you've done all your research, 488 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:39,159 Speaker 1: you want to take half a half a milligram of 489 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,919 Speaker 1: melatonin four and a half hours before bedtime. Yeah, and 490 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:46,120 Speaker 1: then so you want to progressively push that time earlier 491 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: and earlier in the day as you're going to bed 492 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 1: earlier and earlier at night. And then when you wake up, 493 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:56,959 Speaker 1: blast yourself with the lightbox. Yeah. Oh well east to west. 494 00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,400 Speaker 1: That was west to east. Okay, yeah, east to west. 495 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 1: You want to not blast yourself with light. You want 496 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 1: to like wear sunglasses in the morning and avoid light 497 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: in the morning. But they say, use a light box 498 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 1: at your normal bedtime and stay up later, right, which 499 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 1: makes sense. It sounds pretty torture, it does. There's a 500 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:17,919 Speaker 1: New York Times article too, called a Battle Plan for 501 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:24,160 Speaker 1: jet lag, and they've done a study with Major League 502 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: Baseball actually because they travel a lot. And they said 503 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 1: that over two year span, teams that went eastward gave 504 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 1: up an average of one extra run per game. Huh. 505 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 1: That interesting. Yeah, But they say, which is the old 506 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 1: I guess it's not a wives tale if NASA is 507 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,360 Speaker 1: confirming it. They say it takes about one day per 508 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 1: light per time zone to get back into that rhythm 509 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: in general, and they say the same thing, you got 510 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: to re to regulate your exposure to light. So when 511 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 1: you get in that hotel room, if you're traveling east, 512 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 1: you got to expose yourself to light early an advance 513 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: at clock. If you're traveling west, expose yourself to light 514 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,159 Speaker 1: at dusk and in the early part of the evening 515 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 1: and delay that clock. And they'd say, like, you know, 516 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:13,159 Speaker 1: close the curtains, put a towel over your clock radio, 517 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,439 Speaker 1: like get it as dark as possible. Don't look at 518 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 1: any computer screens and laptops. They say you shouldn't eat 519 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,439 Speaker 1: like a big meal or a spicy food like the 520 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 1: first day you get there. Don't like dive right into 521 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,160 Speaker 1: that vacation because that can mess you up as well. 522 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:33,879 Speaker 1: Gastro intestinaly speaking and what else. Well, the CDC says 523 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 1: they don't have any suggestions other than like eat a 524 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 1: balanced diet and make sure you get some exercise jerks. 525 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 1: And it's like, of course you're gonna say that, CDC. 526 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: Do you have any other suggestions, and they say, yes, 527 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 1: wear loose clothing on the flight, avoid alcohol and caffeine well. 528 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 1: And afterward they say that first day on vacation, you 529 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 1: shouldn't be hit in the alcohol right either, Yeah, because 530 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 1: that'll just mess up your sleep period. Yeah, and then 531 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 1: have you heard of this thing called the Valki no 532 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 1: vl k team of scientists in Finland invented this thing, 533 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 1: and it because their belief is that the brain is 534 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 1: it's all about photosensitivity, and so they actually it's sort 535 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 1: of like an iPod, but instead of the ear plugs, 536 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 1: it emits light through your ear canal directly to the brain, 537 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 1: and they said it works. They tested three hundred and 538 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 1: fifty subjects over four years and found that there is 539 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 1: definitely brain activity when the little Valki is on, and 540 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 1: that nine out of ten subjects felt reduction and stress, 541 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 1: seasonal depression and anxiety. And so they're using it for 542 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: winter blues and PMS and jetlag and migraines, all sorts 543 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 1: of stuff. Fantastic. Yeah, I don't know how much of 544 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 1: it is, Zoe. I'm curious if it is the price 545 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 1: of an iPod or just the size of an iPod. 546 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 1: That's a good question. Yeah, I'd try it though I 547 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 1: get pretty bad jetlag. That's like when we go to 548 00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: do events now, I try to fly out a day 549 00:29:59,920 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 1: or really just to sort of adjust. Yeah, but um, 550 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 1: I can do east coast, West coast. It doesn't hit 551 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 1: me that bad. Um, Yeah, it's more like international that 552 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 1: gets me. Yeah. Yeah, I haven't had it very bad. 553 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 1: Like when we went to the TCA's it didn't. I 554 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: didn't seem out of sorts there or back. I get 555 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 1: a little lot of sorts, do you. Yeah, but not 556 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 1: super bad. I'm glad, Chuck, Yeah, you got anything else? 557 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 1: I got nothing else? Okay, that was jet lag everybody. Yeah, 558 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 1: and uh, that kind of goes in with our sleeping sweep. 559 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 1: We've done a bunch of those, like how much sleep 560 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 1: do you really need? Um? What was the one about 561 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 1: the sleep aid? Remember the sleep Baby where like you 562 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 1: could stay up for forty eight hours without any sleep? Yeah? 563 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 1: I don't remember the title of that one. Who wants 564 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 1: to do that? I love my sleep? That was a 565 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 1: good episode though. Yeah. Yeah, a lot of people wish 566 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 1: that you didn't have to sleep. I would imagine not me. 567 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 1: I'm with you. I like to sleep too. If you 568 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 1: want to hear any of those, you can go to 569 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 1: our website Stuff you Should Know dot com and click 570 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 1: on the podcast page and to start searching, go to town. 571 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 1: You're gonna find some cool stuff. And if you want 572 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 1: to read this article, how jetlag works. Go to HowStuffWorks 573 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 1: dot com and in the searchbar type jet leg and 574 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 1: it will bring up the spot by an article. And 575 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 1: I said, searchbar, so it's time for listening to me, Josh. 576 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 1: I called this a very sweet email from Wendy, and 577 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 1: I will be reading some of it and summarizing some 578 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 1: of it because it's super long. She starts out, congratulations 579 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 1: on the launch of your TV show. Thank you. I've 580 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 1: been reading online chatter and I hope it's going comfortably 581 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 1: for you behind the scenes, because you hear these reactions. 582 00:31:57,960 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 1: It's a bummer when those weird people on the block 583 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 1: who mow the lawn naked or pride themselves on not 584 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 1: being tricked into attending college. I think that they are 585 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 1: qualified critics. Hopefully you're all too experienced by now to 586 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 1: do more than laugh at the losers and just keep 587 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 1: doing what you enjoy. So I told her that was 588 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 1: very nice, and it came in a good time because 589 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 1: people could be mean. Man, people have been kind of mean, 590 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 1: but hey, we have pretty thick skin. We've been doing 591 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 1: this for years. We got the armor on. So anyway, 592 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 1: that was very nice Wendy, and then she just wants 593 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 1: she's been meaning to write in for several years to 594 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 1: thank us. She started listening after she moved from Seattle 595 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 1: to Burbank in two thousand and eight, and it was 596 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: a pretty depressing time for her. She said, stay at 597 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 1: home mom, and we really got her through that time. 598 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 1: A year later, she moved to Utah. She kept downloading 599 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 1: because Chuck was on board. It's nice, yeah, And it 600 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 1: was like having my brothers around for an hour or 601 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 1: so every day. It was really nice. She said. It 602 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 1: was clear by that point, even if we didn't know 603 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 1: each other, that you guys would probably be friends of 604 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 1: mine if we knew each other, and you would not 605 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 1: only appreciate the wild cultural shift from Hollywood in Salt 606 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 1: Lake City, but also be more fascinated than turned off 607 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 1: by my strange family connections. And she didn't explain what 608 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 1: that met. Very mysterious. Then she moved from Youthaw to 609 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 1: Massachusetts and she was eight months pregnant and we really 610 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 1: helped her through that, and so she was super appreciative 611 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 1: of that. And then she says, this a long time ago, 612 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 1: you had a many side conversation about what romance meant 613 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 1: and seemed to conclude that it was guys who had 614 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 1: a manly friend crush on another guy that they knew 615 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 1: and they'd really enjoy hanging out with. I don't think 616 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 1: we invented that. No, No, that's commonly what the romance 617 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 1: is known as. I may be a woman, but I 618 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 1: do have a major friend crush on you. Guys. You 619 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 1: filled in for the awesome friends and family that I've 620 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 1: missed intelligently shooting the breeze for the last while, almost 621 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 1: five years now. That is really nice. Yeah, so she's 622 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: moving around and we've we've helped her out as substituting 623 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 1: for her. Smart friends, keep podcasting, take care of yourselves, 624 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 1: you know that. In the zombiepo collipse, I definitely have 625 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 1: your backs. By the way, my weapon of choice would 626 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:08,440 Speaker 1: be an iron age Scandinavian sacks in one hand, a 627 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 1: long handled axe in the other, and a shotgun I 628 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 1: could carry across my back. So, Wendy, you are well 629 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 1: armed a lady, and you'll be right by our sides. 630 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 1: Thanks for that, Wendy. Yeah, um, we're glad we could 631 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 1: help you through the last five years. Can you believe 632 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,440 Speaker 1: it's been like five years? Pretty soon I saw a 633 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 1: tweet from a listener that said that they were off 634 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,879 Speaker 1: to college and they started listening in eighth grade. Well, 635 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 1: and Sarah are amazing eleven year old fan about fifteen. 636 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 1: Oh man, that's nuts. And she she's gonna be driving soon. 637 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 1: She is. I want to fix up with my nephew. 638 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,319 Speaker 1: It's too bad they don't live in the same state. Well, hey, 639 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 1: we're living. 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