1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 1: Can't. I am six forty. 2 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 2: You're listening to the John Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio app. 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 2: We are on every day from one until four o'clock. 4 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:13,119 Speaker 2: We are jammed today. If you miss anything, if you 5 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 2: drift away, come back after four o'clock. It's our podcast 6 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 2: that gets posted on the iHeart app. It's John Cobelt 7 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 2: Show on demand, same as the radio show, So there's 8 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 2: no excuse for missing anything. We are going to talk 9 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 2: to Matt Pakucko coming up after one thirty. Matt is 10 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 2: a resident who was involved some years ago with the 11 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 2: with the what's the name of that Porter, Yeah, Porter Ranch, 12 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 2: Liso Canyon natural gas leak. Remember, thousands of people got 13 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 2: sick because of so Cal Edison. They were not maintaining 14 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 2: their natural gas storage underground storage area properly, and gas 15 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 2: was coming out and kids were getting sick and dogs 16 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 2: were getting sick. People or ended up with with nose 17 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 2: leads and they were vomiting and irritations. And he was 18 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 2: a citizen leader of that revolt. Now he's aligned with 19 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 2: residents in Calabasas, also in the Granada Hills area, the 20 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 2: Sunshine Canyon and Lancaster because those three towns have La 21 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 2: County landfills, and the Board of Supervisors yesterday voted nine 22 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 2: to nothing. That five to nothing, excuse me that threes. 23 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 2: These landfills can receive truckloads after truckloads and truckloads of 24 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 2: toxic waste from all the burned out homes in Pasadena, Altadena, 25 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 2: Pacific Palisades, and Malibu. They gave these landfills a waiver 26 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 2: becauch is. Normally, according to the environmental rules, these landfills 27 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 2: are not supposed to accept the toxic waste, but for 28 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 2: the next six months, Caliber Bassist will get the waste. 29 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: Lancaster and Sunshine Canyon in. 30 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,559 Speaker 2: The Granada Hills area get four months of a waiver 31 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 2: and they'll extend the time, and they think it's the 32 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 2: right thing to do. People are really really upset because 33 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 2: God knows what kind of toxic materials are going to 34 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 2: be rotting away and leaking into the soil and the 35 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 2: ground water and in the atmosphere. So everybody's really upset. 36 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 2: We'll talk to Matt coming up now. Just a couple 37 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 2: of days ago, on Tuesday, there is a woman named 38 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 2: Gina Osborne. You may vaguely remember her name. Geena Osborne 39 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 2: was the safety chief for Metro, you know, the trains 40 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 2: and the subways, and a couple of years ago there 41 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 2: was a run of terrible crimes on public transit. 42 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 1: You know, people were. 43 00:02:55,520 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 2: Getting stabbed, shot, set on fire, and Osborne at some 44 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 2: point went public and said, hey, you know what we 45 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 2: need here. 46 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:06,959 Speaker 1: We need our own Metro police force. 47 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 2: Because many Metro customers that's the only way they can 48 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 2: get around. And this is you know, we have we 49 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 2: have had a mishmash of agencies handling Metro security and 50 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 2: it hasn't worked out. And you know, now Metro is 51 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 2: getting its own police force. They're they're putting it together 52 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 2: in the process, I think so Geene Osborne, for telling 53 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 2: the truth publicly got fired. She got fired by the CEO, 54 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 2: Stephanie Wiggins, and Kristin Crowley basically is getting fired as 55 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 2: LA fire chief for going public and telling the truth 56 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 2: about Karen Bass and the lack of money and manpower 57 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 2: that Crowley's had to work with for the last few 58 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 2: years as fire chief. Now, you know, I do think 59 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 2: Crowley made some major judgment mistakes the day of the fire, 60 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 2: But the truth is Bass really is upset with her 61 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 2: for going public and telling what's really going on. Apparently 62 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 2: this is like the mafia. There's a code of silence. 63 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 2: These government bureaucrats and elected officials who are in many 64 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 2: cases incompetent and corrupt. They don't want anyone airing the 65 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 2: dirty laundry. But we employ these people. Crowley was reporting 66 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 2: to us, the voters, the taxpayers, telling us what's really 67 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 2: going on behind the scenes. I bet you maybe one 68 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 2: percent of the public knew how badly underfunded the fire 69 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 2: department was, and if you hadn't heard us talking about 70 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 2: it recently, we only have half a fire department. These 71 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 2: national fire councils recommend two firefighters for every thousand every 72 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 2: thousand pop we have zero point nine. Most cities have 73 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 2: at least one and a half to one point eight firefighters. Again, 74 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 2: should be two. A lot of cities at one and 75 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:16,919 Speaker 2: a half, one point seven, one point eight. We're at 76 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 2: zero point nine. We are the most underfunded, understaffed city 77 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 2: when it comes to a fire department in the entire country. 78 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 1: We're number one. 79 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 2: It's something, and it's because part of the reason is 80 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 2: they've diverted so much money into that homeless hole, you know, 81 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 2: that massive, corrupt beast of homelessness has gotten a billion 82 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 2: four dollars, a billion, four hundred thousand dollars this fiscal year, 83 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 2: a billion, four hundred thousand dollars, way more than the 84 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 2: fire department, a half a million dollars more than the 85 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 2: fire department. And we had yesterday Freddy Escobar from the 86 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 2: Firefighters Union, and he said, we have the same number 87 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 2: of fire stations that we had in nineteen sixty nine, 88 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 2: same number all these years later. Now we come back. 89 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:11,679 Speaker 2: I brought up Gina Osbourne. Since leaving, since getting fired 90 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 2: from Metro, she started a podcast called Making Maverick Moves 91 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 2: and she recorded this in November of twenty twenty four. 92 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 2: It just got released this week as Crowley was getting fired, 93 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 2: and she talked to Crowley who made it clear about 94 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 2: the underfunding and understaffing of the fire department. And it's 95 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 2: nothing that Crowley hadn't said privately to Bass and everybody 96 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 2: else except nobody would listen to City Hall. 97 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: So we will do that next. You're gonna want to 98 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 1: hear this stuff. 99 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 2: This is Kristin Crowley to Gina Osborne on a podcast 100 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 2: just released this week. 101 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: That's next. 102 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 3: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 103 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:55,119 Speaker 3: six forty. 104 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 1: All right, let's get to it. 105 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 2: I told you in the first segment, Gina Osborne was 106 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 2: fired by Metro for telling the truth. She was the 107 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 2: chief safety officer and she started talking publicly how it's 108 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 2: unsafe to take Metro and they need their own police department, 109 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 2: and so she got fired by the Metro CEO. Gina 110 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 2: most recently has put together a podcast called Making Maverick 111 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 2: Moves and it's about doing what she did, or what 112 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 2: Kristen Crowley did, is go public over something really important, 113 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 2: even if it exposes and embarrasses your bosses, because the 114 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 2: public needs to know this because the public is in danger. 115 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: Remember this is about the public being in. 116 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 2: Danger, whether it's the Metro station, the lack of law 117 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 2: enforcement and all the drug addicts and psychos that were 118 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 2: killing people and assaulting people. Well, in this case, Crowley 119 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 2: knows you can't run Los Angeles with half a fire department. 120 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 2: She told Jane Osborne this on the podcast. This was 121 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 2: recorded in November. Although Crowley was telling everybody behind the scenes, 122 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 2: including Karen Bass, so this is not like you know, 123 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 2: she was only telling a podcaster. She was telling everybody. 124 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 2: The podcast though just got released this week. Let's play 125 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 2: cut three and Crowley talks about how all this is 126 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 2: her duty to stand up and tell the truth. 127 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 4: The city is in a budget counch right now. When 128 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 4: it comes to my position as the chief of advocating 129 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 4: and fighting for the safety and well being of our firefighters, 130 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 4: that's my job to stand up and to say the 131 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 4: fire department can no longer operate this way. We're understaffed, 132 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 4: under resource and underfunded. And a lot of the times 133 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 4: that she was like, oh, you know, are you really 134 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 4: I mean, our Los Angeles City Fire Department is in uh, 135 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 4: We're literally at a crossroads. So the Maverick move is 136 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 4: me to stand up and say the fire department can 137 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 4: no longer do this. And that's a pretty uncomfortable position 138 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 4: to be in, especially when the fire department, especially the 139 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 4: Los Angeles City Fire Department, is in a position where 140 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 4: we take more on, we take more on, we take 141 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 4: more on, but at what cost to our people? And 142 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 4: so the Maverick move right now, it's happening as we 143 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 4: speak to you know. So it's my job to stand 144 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 4: up and to fight the fight for what our people 145 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 4: need when it comes to this saying that we use 146 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:40,199 Speaker 4: as everybody goes home, and everybody's got to go home 147 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 4: to their families at the end of their shifts. So 148 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,079 Speaker 4: the Maverick move, I'm standing up and I got to 149 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 4: fight the fight to get our people what they need 150 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:47,559 Speaker 4: to do their jobs. 151 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 2: And again she's told Bass this privately. The Bass and 152 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 2: the rest of the city council goes, oh, do you 153 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 2: really need that? Yeah, obviously we do. And it got proven, 154 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 2: didn't it. On January seventh, Let's go to Cut four 155 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 2: and Crowley is telling Gina Osborne about, among other things, 156 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 2: dealing with all the vagrants and the crazy people and 157 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 2: the unbelievable number of cloth calls that the fire department 158 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 2: now gets. 159 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 4: We're busier than we ever have and now the Eliot 160 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 4: d has been around for one hundred and thirty eight years. 161 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 4: I tell you that the caliber of people that take 162 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 4: on this mission, just either from the first responder side 163 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:32,559 Speaker 4: or the military side, there's so many, and the law 164 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 4: enforcement side, I should say, is our counterparts. It takes 165 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 4: really really special group of people that take on this 166 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 4: mission each and every day, and where people are putting 167 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 4: their lives on the line, they're putting others in front 168 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 4: of themselves. They're sacrificing and their families are sacrificing every 169 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 4: single day. So we're busier than we've ever been within 170 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 4: the city of Los Angeles, and you hit on a 171 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 4: couple points from the fires to you know, assisting the 172 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 4: city with the unhiused population. We ran over five hundred 173 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 4: thousand calls in twenty twenty three and we're actually on 174 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 4: pace to run even more in twenty twenty four with 175 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 4: less personnel than we had ten years ago. To be 176 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 4: able to stand up and communicate and have strategies and 177 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 4: innovations and efficiencies are really important. You just can't stand 178 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 4: up and complain. You got to have some strong strategies 179 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 4: moving forward of how we can be more efficient with 180 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 4: what we've got, but also to have the courage to 181 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 4: stand up and say, hey, we can't maintain this anymore. 182 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 4: So we have to be really smart, really calculated and 183 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 4: what types of services the LFD can continue to provide. 184 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 4: And because we are spread very, very very thin, and 185 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 4: we're focusing back on our core fundamentals of emergency services 186 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 4: and fire and emergency medical services, and that's our core mission, 187 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 4: core fundamentals of who we are. So you know, we 188 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 4: have to recalibrate and that's okay, but we can't keep 189 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 4: doing more with less, and so we're just going to 190 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 4: be super smart about it. 191 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: It's Kristin Crowley, the fire chief. 192 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 2: We have the homeless, we have a mayor Bass and 193 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 2: the idiots on the city council. They're running a city 194 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:20,199 Speaker 2: that allows the homeless to start fourteen thousand fires a year. 195 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 2: Fourteen thousand fires a year. Just sit and think about 196 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 2: that massive number. The firefighters get a one hundred and 197 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 2: eighty calls every day about homeless issues, homeless starting fires, 198 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 2: homeless needing emergency medical care. God knows what's going on 199 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 2: out there. Again, with the same number of fire stations 200 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 2: since nineteen sixty nine and only half the funding and 201 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 2: half the personnel that they should have. Here's the next cut. 202 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 2: The fire chief, Kristin Crowley talking to Gina Osborne again 203 00:12:57,760 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 2: on this podcast. 204 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:02,719 Speaker 1: The consequence of being underfunded. 205 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 4: The consequences are and it's not a really comfortable position 206 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 4: to be in. Right, you make these maverick moves, and 207 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:12,559 Speaker 4: I'm sure as you talk to other people, like you said, 208 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 4: there's consequences to everything, and if you're willing to take 209 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 4: something on and this is where we are. This is 210 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 4: our reality. So the consequences are our service delivery model. 211 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 4: It's going to look a little different the way that 212 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 4: we provide services when somebody calls nine one one. 213 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 1: If it's not. 214 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 4: Quite to the level of where and what and how 215 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:34,559 Speaker 4: we utilize our limited resources, then we have to come 216 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 4: with their solutions of utilizing other types of services within 217 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 4: the city, something that's non emergency, something that might take 218 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 4: a little bit more time to get there, versus the 219 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 4: normal way we'd send a fire engine, a firetruck or 220 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 4: an ambulance to provide a low level type of service. 221 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:54,319 Speaker 4: And that's the consequence. It's like, Okay, we can't keep 222 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 4: doing it because we have limited resources, so our service 223 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 4: delivery has got to change. And that's uncomfortable, right. It's 224 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 4: it's easy for us to just keep doing it and 225 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 4: keep doing it, but I tell you we're at that 226 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 4: tipping point when it comes to taking care of our people, 227 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 4: and you know, what are the consequences of our own 228 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 4: actions if we keep doing the same thing. And I 229 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 4: tell you, our firefighters are tired, Our firefighters are getting injured, 230 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 4: our firefighters are making mistakes because of their fatigue. So 231 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 4: something's got to give and you know that's the Maverick 232 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 4: move that we just talked about. It's like, Okay, we've 233 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 4: got to do things different. We've got to take care 234 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 4: of our people. We have to continue to serve the 235 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 4: communities and the public. But it's going to look it's 236 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 4: going to look a little different. 237 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's just astonishing. There's there's the top two 238 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 2: main things that a local government ought to do is 239 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 2: provide police service and fire service one levels and make 240 00:14:56,800 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 2: life as good as they can the firefighters and the 241 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 2: police officers. You don't exhaust them with endless shifts and 242 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 2: endless overtime. You don't put them in unnecessary danger because 243 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 2: there's a lack of funding and there's a lack of staffing. 244 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 2: You don't respond, oh do you really need that? We 245 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 2: need the police and fire a thousand times more than 246 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 2: we need all these wacky social programs and all these 247 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 2: corrupt homeless programs, corrupt, wasteful homeless programs. 248 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: But I imagine the city council. 249 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 2: They got a lot of friends and relatives who've set 250 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 2: up these pop up nonprofits to suck away homeless money. 251 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 252 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're spending a billion, four hundred thousand in the 253 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 2: city La to service people who start fourteen thousand fires, 254 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 2: and the people who put out those fires are underfunded. 255 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 2: We've got more Kristin Crowley clips to play later in 256 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 2: the show. But this is the real of what's going 257 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 2: on here. And of course this pissed off Karen Bass, 258 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 2: and she was going to fire Crowley uh as soon 259 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 2: as she could once Crowley went public with a version 260 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 2: of this to Fox eleven and Gigi graziet So. But 261 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 2: but we're living in such a dangerous city because most 262 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 2: of the city council is just a bunch of sociopaths 263 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 2: and and Karen Bass too, Uh, they don't care about us. 264 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 2: You judge people by their actions, not their rhetoric, not 265 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 2: their words and their speeches and all that other nonsense. 266 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 2: You don't believe them when they say about how they 267 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 2: they're that they're public servants who care about our safety, 268 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 2: and hell no, they don't know, they don't. There are 269 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 2: a bunch of grifters, largely, I mean how many, how many? 270 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 2: How many of them ended up in prison so far 271 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 2: that was on the La City Council and the people 272 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 2: who ended up in prison of the same people who've 273 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 2: underfunded the fire Department in all these years. 274 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 1: All right, we come back. 275 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:07,159 Speaker 2: You're talking Matt Pakucko on Mac Pacucko Citizen Activist, and 276 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 2: he is with a lot of residents who don't want 277 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 2: the landfills in La County, in Calabasas, the Sunshine Canyon Landfill, 278 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:18,400 Speaker 2: in the Granada Hills area, and in Lancaster. They don't 279 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:20,880 Speaker 2: want all the toxic waste from the fires dumped into 280 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 2: their landfills. It's normally prohibited, and now the La County 281 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 2: Supervisors has given out waivers. 282 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 1: That's next. 283 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:34,360 Speaker 3: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM. 284 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 2: Six forty John Cobelt Show, I Am six forty live 285 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:43,360 Speaker 2: everywhere on the iHeartRadio app and the weist line is Friday. 286 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 2: You can call it now eight seven seven Moist eighty six, 287 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 2: eight seven seven Moist eighty six, or use the talkback 288 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:51,399 Speaker 2: feature on the iHeartRadio app. 289 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about with Matt Pacucko. 290 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 2: He's a resident and he's been part of the protests 291 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 2: to keep all this toxic waste from the fires out 292 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 2: of a number of landfills. They are the Calabasas Landfill, 293 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 2: Sunshine Canyon, which is in the Granada Hills area Lancaster 294 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 2: as well, and yesterday it was a five to nothing 295 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 2: vote by the La County Border Supervisors. They're going to 296 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 2: issue waivers so that a lot of this toxic waste 297 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:24,159 Speaker 2: can be taken into the landfills, and a lot of 298 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 2: residents are very unhappy with it for obvious reasons that 299 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 2: this hazardous waste is going to end up in the air, 300 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 2: in the water, in the soil, and they just they 301 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,719 Speaker 2: don't trust the government, They don't trust the claims and 302 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:44,120 Speaker 2: why should you. Let's talk now with Matt Pacucko. Matt, 303 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 2: how are you again? 304 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 5: Hey, John, thanks for having me on again. 305 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, So it was a five nothing, a shutout on 306 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 2: the part of the Border Supervisors. And I imagine there's 307 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:55,679 Speaker 2: a lot of unhappy people. 308 00:18:56,320 --> 00:19:00,119 Speaker 5: Yeah, the vote was in their mind way before yesterday 309 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 5: that that was just political theater going on where they 310 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 5: had to like do this checkbox of having this hearing 311 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 5: and take all these like eight like almost nine hundred 312 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:14,439 Speaker 5: written public comments about four in favor that were you know, 313 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 5: nine hundred against fifty people at least showed up or 314 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 5: on the phone yesterday that the supervisors didn't even listen to. 315 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 5: While we were making in person public comments about two 316 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 5: hundred people at our protests were all over local media. 317 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 5: And what do they do They just ignore all of that. 318 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, and all those people they did come out or 319 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 2: did write or you end up listening or watching the meeting. 320 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:41,880 Speaker 2: They represent thousands of other people who feel the same way. 321 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:44,239 Speaker 5: Of course they do. You know, very few people can 322 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 5: actually make it to these things. They you know, that's 323 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,199 Speaker 5: that's powerful the course of any government thing. It's so 324 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:53,679 Speaker 5: hard for normal people to get to those meetings, especially yesterday. 325 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 5: This this is where the they really dry, you know, 326 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,239 Speaker 5: put the nail in the coffin. They knew that they 327 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 5: would be at three clock with our agenda item, because 328 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:05,159 Speaker 5: that's when all these other agency heads came in, but 329 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 5: they don't tell us publicly. We have to wait theres 330 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 5: from nine am. 331 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 2: You got to wait six hours, and they know what 332 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 2: time this topic's going to be aired. 333 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,120 Speaker 5: Yes, they did. That's what all those people marched in. 334 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 2: Oh, that's you know, that's just awful. These people are 335 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 2: just awful, the bureaucratic heads and these politicians. Lindsay Horravath 336 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,120 Speaker 2: is one of the supervisors. I'm going to read something 337 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:29,159 Speaker 2: from the Daily News story I know you know this, 338 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 2: but I just want the listeners to understand. Lindsey Horrivath, 339 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 2: one of the supervisors, said at the meeting that hazardous 340 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 2: household materials are being taken to staging areas for processing 341 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 2: and packing, and this hazardous waste is not going to 342 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:50,120 Speaker 2: the landfills. This is the stuff that they're packaging at 343 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 2: will Rogers State Beach, at the former Panga Motel, another 344 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 2: staging area in Azusa, Farnworth Park, the Altadena golf Course. 345 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 2: And they claim that this kind of waste is not 346 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 2: going into the landfills. That now everything's ash. How do 347 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 2: you separate the toxic waste from the non toxic waste, 348 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 2: Well you don't. 349 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 5: There's certain things they can see that they know are 350 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 5: toxic hazard is, but then the rest of it that 351 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 5: they can't see has already been incinerated and is a 352 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 5: pile of ash. So no, they can't separate it. 353 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:31,439 Speaker 2: Because they they claim that there's they're good, they have 354 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 2: a process and in order to I guess neutralize it 355 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 2: to some extent. 356 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,120 Speaker 5: Oh, well, here's the thing. That's the stuff that they 357 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,880 Speaker 5: separate that's waiting like in those staging stations, that's not 358 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 5: going to go into landfills. That's going to the Hasmad landfills. 359 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 5: That's where all this stuff should go. It's more expensive, 360 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 5: it's going to take longer, but it'll take it. And 361 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 5: it's far from population centers. That's where all this stuff 362 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 5: should go. They just they just claim over and over 363 00:21:56,520 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 5: again two things. Well, it's not as fast, doesn't get 364 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 5: this public relations nightmare off their books and out of 365 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 5: you know, people's face is fat. It's more expensive, and 366 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 5: then that's probably you know, that's the main thing that 367 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 5: they just don't want to spend that time and that 368 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 5: money to do it the right way, which is more 369 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 5: of a permanent solution. Rather they're going to do this 370 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 5: like that. There's no foresightless government, right, They're just setting 371 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 5: up for the next disaster by dumping this has matt 372 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 5: all over La. 373 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 2: Sunshine Canyons near Granada Hills and the landfill's program managers 374 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 2: guy named Gabe Thompson, and he says this material is 375 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 2: double wrapped, wet down and then pushed into the working 376 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 2: area of the landfill. Then they wet it down again. 377 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,199 Speaker 2: And I guess he's saying, well that you know, this 378 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:45,160 Speaker 2: makes it safe. 379 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 5: This place is literally yesterday. I think I told you 380 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 5: the other day. I'll just say it again. There's hundreds 381 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 5: of notices of violation from the AQMD against this facility 382 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 5: Sunshine Canyon, including yesterday notice of violation. There's thousands of 383 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 5: comples just in the last year. This place cannot manage 384 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 5: its current normal household trash. There's no way are they 385 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 5: going to be wetting this down twenty four to seven 386 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 5: into infinity to keep this stuff from blown around. 387 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 3: No. 388 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 5: And remember this is right next to the cascades of 389 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 5: the LA Water Supply, which is open to the air. 390 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 5: It is right next to Van Norman Reservoir. Those two 391 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 5: things are like seventy three percent I think of LA 392 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:29,400 Speaker 5: Water Supply that stuff, and they're in the ten Anna 393 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 5: Winds Corridor right there. That stuff blows through right into 394 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 5: LA That stuff there's they can't control it. Now, who 395 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 5: are they kidding? 396 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 2: So they don't want to take the time and they 397 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 2: don't want to spend the money to take this out 398 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 2: into the desert somewhere out in the wilds where it's 399 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 2: not going to harm any local residents. I mean, that's 400 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,679 Speaker 2: astonishing compared to what they spend money on, you know, 401 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 2: like like the billion, four hundred million in the city 402 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 2: that they spend on the homeless, that they have money for. 403 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,919 Speaker 2: But to take out all this toxic way and uh 404 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:03,719 Speaker 2: put it in the truck and send it out into 405 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:04,159 Speaker 2: the desert. 406 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 1: Oh, we don't want to spend the money on that. 407 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:10,679 Speaker 5: Yeah, new some pretty much he was, you know, in 408 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,919 Speaker 5: the early days, bragging that he was instrumental in waiving 409 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 5: all the rules environmental laws sequel all this stuff that 410 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 5: allowed this to be then put into local landfills. It's 411 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 5: like he's bragging. 412 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. They they've raised the daily tonnage limit too. 413 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's the whole thing. They raised that to like 414 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 5: some double or triple what it was. Yeah. 415 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 2: Then in Lancaster it's been tripled from three thousand tons 416 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 2: to nine thousand tons. 417 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 5: And they can extend this waiver as many times as 418 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 5: they want. So they say, oh it'll be a few months. No, 419 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 5: this is a whole many you know year it takes 420 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 5: to truck the stuff out. 421 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 1: Of There are there lawsuits. 422 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:56,239 Speaker 5: There was a tro O timbers training order that got 423 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 5: shot down. But there are plenty of groups in on 424 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 5: this and they are working on the next the legal all. 425 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 2: The complicated environmental laws because you can't build anything in 426 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 2: California because of all the environmental regulations and all the lawsuits. 427 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 2: And you would think when they actually have toxic waste, 428 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 2: they that there would be some kind of regulation that 429 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 2: the general public could use to stop it from being 430 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 2: taken into their neighborhoods. 431 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 1: I mean, everything else is blocked, you. 432 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 5: Know, the most precious thing. Their meeting yesterday Border Supervisors 433 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 5: started out with them acknowledging somebody about how they are 434 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,199 Speaker 5: so good with taking care of the land and how 435 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 5: they are so great and environmental protection in California, and 436 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 5: then this, Oh my god. 437 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, So I mean, did this deflate everyone or fire 438 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 2: them up? 439 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,919 Speaker 5: Oh? Pretty fired up. It's going to be a you know, 440 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 5: just a tough ballut. I went through the whole thing 441 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:57,199 Speaker 5: with the gas blowout and dealing with the same agencies, 442 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,400 Speaker 5: some of the same agencies and some of the exact 443 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 5: same people, and dealing with those people. They they are 444 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 5: they're on the city clock, city employees, county and state employees. 445 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 5: They're there to check off their boxes and go home. 446 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 5: They're not the people that care about what's going on. 447 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 5: They're there to do their job and get out of there. 448 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:19,959 Speaker 5: You can see that on their faces. When all these 449 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 5: so called experts are just going through their checklist of 450 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,640 Speaker 5: things while people in the audience are screaming about their 451 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 5: future and their lives and their children. These people just 452 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 5: got nothing. All these experts had no other solutions. Even 453 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 5: the hasmat sites out of you know, the far away 454 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 5: once they talked about that for thirty seconds, say no, 455 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 5: that's not a solution. 456 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 1: That's it. 457 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 2: That's that's the answer. They just dismissed it, you know. 458 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 2: And all the all the workers wear in hasbat suits. 459 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 2: That's what's really funny. They claim that, don't worry, this 460 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 2: is not going to be toxic, this is not going 461 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 2: to endanger you. But everyone that's handling the material is 462 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:58,159 Speaker 2: wearing a hasmat suit. That's yeah, all right, Well, Matt, 463 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 2: as more happens, please keep in touch with us. Okay, hey, 464 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,880 Speaker 2: thank you need some maritime You'll always get it here. 465 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 2: That's Matt Pacucko and he's one of the activists trying 466 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 2: to stop all the toxic waste from getting dumped from 467 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 2: the Palisades and Altadena fires in Calabasas. It's being dumped 468 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:21,360 Speaker 2: in Lancaster Granada Hills. Coming up after two o'clock, we're 469 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,400 Speaker 2: gonna have Carl Demyo on. He's an assemblyman now out 470 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 2: of San Diego, and you know, the insurance industry is 471 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 2: just collapsing here in California, as you probably know, and 472 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,880 Speaker 2: he has a bill to try to stabilize the whole 473 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 2: broken down, busted system. 474 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 1: So Carl's gonna come up soon. 475 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 3: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM 476 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 3: six forty. 477 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 2: John Cobelt shof I AM six forty live everywhere on 478 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,919 Speaker 2: the iHeartRadio app. After two o'clock, it's going to be 479 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 2: Carl Demyo. The California insurance situation is just a disaster 480 00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 2: in so many ways. It's almost impossible to get in 481 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 2: too because it's so complicated. But everything is fouled up 482 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 2: because that's the state we're in. You know, you put 483 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,359 Speaker 2: people at Gavin Newsom in charge and Karen Bass in charge, 484 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 2: and the insurance commissioner is the cal fart guy Ricardo Laura, 485 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:17,159 Speaker 2: who's just a total moron. We'll talk with the Carl 486 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,919 Speaker 2: Demile because he's got a bill that supposedly would straighten 487 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 2: a lot of this out. 488 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:22,160 Speaker 1: We'll see. 489 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 2: Speaking of Gavin Newsom, he's it's our company doing this, 490 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 2: So I suppose I have to word this carefully. Did 491 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 2: you know Gavin Newsom has another podcast coming. 492 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 1: Out on iHeart. Yeah, you want to be a guest. 493 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 2: I do want to be a guest, because well, first 494 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 2: of all, the original podcast, which I guess is going on. 495 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 2: It's a sports and culture show called Politicken, and he's 496 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 2: got the former NFL star Marshawn Lynch and a sports agent, 497 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 2: Doug Hendricks and as. 498 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 1: His co host. 499 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 6: You've heard this right, Eric to a second of it, 500 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 6: But oh you haven't. Just the preview that we played 501 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 6: the one time on the show. Oh oh, I thought 502 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 6: maybe you listen to it? No, No, I mean what 503 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 6: sports and culture show? And Gavin Newsom's one third? Hm, 504 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 6: I mean it's our company. I suppose U shouldn't question anything. 505 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 6: But now now it's He claims he's gonna have a 506 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 6: lot of Trump people coming on, people from the conservative movement, Republicans, uh, 507 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 6: and he is going to have people that he vehemently 508 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 6: disagrees with because he would like to have a forum 509 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 6: so they can both both sides can illuminate their positions. 510 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 5: Uh. 511 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 2: He says, I want Democrats to come on and challenge 512 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 2: where we are and a lot of these issues. And 513 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 2: so I'm asking the same questions that you're asking of me. 514 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 2: Where the hell is the Democratic Party? What are we doing? 515 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 2: Who are we? Where are we going? What's the path back? 516 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 3: Now? 517 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 1: Does he not understand? 518 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 2: He really doesn't understand why his party is largely out 519 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 2: of power outside of California. And then you look at 520 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 2: California and the rest of the country runs on California. 521 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 2: Whenever you got some left winging progressive candidate running for 522 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:24,479 Speaker 2: Congress or governor or anything in the other forty United States, 523 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 2: they say, hey, you want him to do what Newsom 524 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 2: did to California. That is the most powerful talking point, 525 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 2: the most powerful angle to run on. It's like, you 526 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 2: don't want to become California, And really that's what they do. 527 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 2: And you can see why. So what I don't understand 528 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:48,479 Speaker 2: is is somebody gonna go on this podcast because if 529 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 2: I'm a guest, this is what I would do. It's like, 530 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,479 Speaker 2: you've been running things for six years. You lost twenty 531 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 2: four billion dollars of homeless money. By your own admission, 532 00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 2: you don't know where it went or if it did 533 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 2: any good. Let's talk about that. I mean, I'm astonished 534 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 2: that he actually went public and said this, and then 535 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 2: you know that was on a Tuesday. We went on 536 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 2: to Wednesday, and there was no repercussions. There's no consequences, 537 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 2: and he's sitting there wondering, well, what the hell happened? Well, 538 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 2: look at all the garbage coming out of Washington now 539 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 2: about the Doge investigation, Look at all the money that's 540 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 2: wasted that we get nothing for. And he's sitting there going, well, 541 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 2: what's happened to our party? He acts like he. 542 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 1: Does he read the news. 543 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 2: Is he sitting in such a progressive bubble that he 544 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 2: doesn't know what they're uncovering in Washington, d C? Does 545 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 2: he not know how much people here in California hated 546 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 2: the crime, hated the homelessness, hated all the woke bs. 547 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 2: Does he not understand it? And it was it was 548 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 2: his crowd that was promoting this I'm just just oh. 549 00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,479 Speaker 2: And now he wants a podcast, He wants to hear 550 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 2: from the other he wants to figure out where we 551 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 2: went wrong. 552 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 7: Well, so when he runs for president, he can say, 553 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 7: see see what I did. I'm a uniter, I'm trying 554 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 7: to fix the I'm trying to fix the divide. 555 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 1: Here is a cut of him promoting the podcast. 556 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 8: We need to change the conversation, and that's why I'm 557 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 8: launching a new podcast, and this is going to be 558 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 8: anything but the ordinary politician podcast. 559 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 1: I'm going to be talking to. 560 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 8: People directly that I disagree with, as well as people 561 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 8: I look up to. 562 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 1: But more important than anything else. 563 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 8: I'll be talking directly with you the listener, real conversations. 564 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 1: What's going on with the. 565 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 8: Cost of eggs, what are the impacts real impacts to 566 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 8: you around tariffs? What power does an executive order really have? 567 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 8: And what's really going on inside of dotsch. Look, there's 568 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 8: an onslaught of information that we take in, so let's 569 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 8: take it to the sources without the typical political mumbo jumble. 570 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 8: In the first few weeks, we're going to be sitting 571 00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 8: down with some of the biggest leaders and architects in 572 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 8: the MAGA movement. 573 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 2: This is Gavin Newsom. That's the title of the podcast. 574 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 2: This is Gavin Newsom. 575 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 1: Catchy. 576 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 2: He didn't mention anything about the twenty four billion dollars 577 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 2: in homeless money. 578 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 1: He blew no political mumbo jumbo. 579 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 2: Though he didn't mention you know, the sixteen billion dollars 580 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 2: in high speed rail money that he blew. He and 581 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 2: saying thing about the fifty billion dollars in unemployment money 582 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 2: that he blew during COVID. 583 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 7: He's going to be talking about that on his podcast, 584 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 7: John he is, Yes, all those issues. 585 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 1: There's my three questions. 586 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 2: Explain the blown money for COVID unemployment, Explain the blown 587 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 2: money for homelessness, and the blown money for high speed rail. 588 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 1: Let's start there. 589 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 7: I think Ray should make sure that you get on 590 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 7: as a guest, because, look, he wants to talk to opponents. 591 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 7: You're an opponent, I mean, not an opponent. But well, 592 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 7: you don't agree with him. 593 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 1: Wouldn't we agree? It's just what I'm saying. 594 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 2: Wouldn't he agree with me that you can't blow twenty 595 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 2: four billion dollars in homeless money and say I don't 596 00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 2: know where it went that, that's not that. If that's 597 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 2: what you did, you should go home. You should close 598 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 2: down your office and go home. 599 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 1: No, he's going to have an explanation. 600 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 2: All right, we're coming up. I think we're going to 601 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 2: have to Eric. I think you're going to have to 602 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 2: be a regular connoisseur of the Gavenus podcast. I think 603 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 2: we need a weekly report. It's to promote the company's 604 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 2: investment here. Is he getting paid for this? That's a 605 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 2: good question. I mean, I guess I'm gonna have to 606 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 2: listen to this. Debora Mark Carl Demos. Next on the 607 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 2: insurance industry just collapsing here in California, Debormark live in 608 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,280 Speaker 2: the CAFI twenty four hour Newsroom. Hey, you've been listening 609 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,839 Speaker 2: to the John Cobalt Show podcast. 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