1 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 2: Cowboys, Let's go. 4 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 3: Are you ready for a break? 5 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:25,319 Speaker 4: Yes? 6 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 5: Are you ready for a break? 7 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 3: Absolutely? 8 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 5: Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that. 9 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 6: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. 10 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:42,279 Speaker 6: Were on right with Ambar Garcia, Brian brought us, Patrick 11 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 6: Walker and Derek Eagleton. 12 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 7: It is Monday, August fourteenth, twenty twenty three, Season nineteen, 13 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 7: episode number seventeen. Welcome to the latest edition of The Break. 14 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 7: We're live from Oxnard, California. We're back in Oxnard, California, 15 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 7: after taking a weekend to go back to Dallas Cowboys 16 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 7: play their first preseason game. 17 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 3: Uh. 18 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:04,839 Speaker 7: And now we are back in ox starting to finish 19 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 7: off the week before we had the Seattle uh, and 20 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 7: then maybe get back home at some point. I don't 21 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 7: know what day it is, but I mean, at this point, 22 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 7: we're just kind of making it work. 23 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:15,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're just rolling with the punches at this point. 24 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 5: Yeah. 25 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 3: But back out here in California where it's not as 26 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 3: hot as it was. You know, we we got a 27 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 3: nice reminder Nick once once we stepped off the plane 28 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 3: at DFW of what Texas heat. 29 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 8: She was out of it and it was just like, 30 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 8: you know, we had kind of been talking a little 31 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 8: bit too about just you know, it's a little warm 32 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 8: out here, warmer than usual, but then that all ended pursues. 33 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 9: Yeah, so it's nice. It is very back. Actually, just 34 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 9: be back on the show. 35 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 7: Yes, those adults that have basically missed the last month. 36 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 3: Uh. 37 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 7: Nick is no longer on the break, but he is 38 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 7: on the break today because Amber is is not back 39 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 7: with us right now, she's back in Frisco, and Brian's 40 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 7: now with us right now, he's back in Dallas, and uh, 41 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 7: and so we needed some reinforcements. We brought back on 42 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 7: and for the for the week. So you'll be on 43 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 7: today and Wednesday, and then once we get back. 44 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 8: Might be doing a little talking Cowboys too. 45 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 7: Yeah, we're just putting you whereever we can put you 46 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 7: right now. And more than anything else, it's an opportunity 47 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 7: for you to promote your new show, your solo show. 48 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 5: Why don't you tell people about that? How's that going? 49 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 8: It's going it's going pretty well. Cowboys storyline. Uh, it's 50 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 8: just me and then until we get a guest, I 51 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 8: mean we've been getting some some guests and we're fingers 52 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 8: crossed all getting one today, uh for today's show. But yeah, 53 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 8: it's been it's been fun getting a chance to talk 54 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 8: with some fans. When we get back to the Star, 55 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 8: we'll be doing a lot more of that. They'll be 56 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 8: getting some of the callers. I'll be trying to interact 57 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 8: with a lot of fans right now. It's been a 58 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 8: lot of tweets been on that text line and then 59 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 8: also get an opportunity to get some We've had some 60 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 8: good guests in here. And then you know, of course 61 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 8: Maverick from Top Gun showed up. Sort of air quotes 62 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:02,959 Speaker 8: on Maverick the Tom Cruise look like kinda he came 63 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 8: into a deuced Vaughn interview and so it was like 64 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 8: it was cool. We chatted with him for a little bit, 65 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 8: but it was like, all right, go dude, because this 66 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 8: guy is a real deal. This is a real deal. 67 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 7: The game, Yeah, let's talk about that game. Cowboys. They lose, 68 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 7: but that's not really the most important thing. Tell us 69 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 7: what is the most important thing as far as the 70 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 7: way you guys look at it coming out of that game? 71 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 7: What do you think was I guess The biggest takeaway 72 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 7: or best takeaway for the Cowboys. 73 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 3: For me, health first and foremost. The Cowboys didn't have 74 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 3: any major injuries. Knock on wood Niseean Wright. He was 75 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 3: on the flight with a precautionary boot on his ankle. 76 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 3: It's being described as a mild ankle strain mouth high 77 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 3: ankle strain. Mike McCarthy just said that he doesn't doesn't 78 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 3: look like Nashawn will play on Saturday against the Seahawks, 79 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 3: but we'll see how that goes. Doesn't sound like there's 80 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 3: major concern that Malik Jefferson left the contest against the 81 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 3: jag Wars with a foot spray. Sounds like Malik has 82 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 3: a better opportunity to play, but those two guys and 83 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 3: Junior Forjoko had a shoulder injury that held him out 84 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 3: of the game. But he has a chance to maybe play, 85 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 3: but no major injury. So other than that, I'm good 86 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 3: on health. Now, it's just going to play. Demarveion Overshown, 87 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 3: he stepped up and showed me what he can be 88 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 3: in this Cowboys defense, and then Ducevon showed you what 89 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 3: he can be in this Cowboys offense. 90 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 8: Yeah, true, I mean I think that you're right when 91 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 8: you're asking McCarthy about Jefferson and who has a chance 92 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 8: to play Jefferson and Naseean right, that's who you're asking 93 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 8: about it coming out for a game. That's that's a 94 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:33,359 Speaker 8: good thing because it neither one of them really looked 95 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 8: that serious. So you know the fact that Jacksonville played 96 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 8: their starters and the Cowboys didn't, it's hard. It's gonna 97 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:41,919 Speaker 8: be tough to gauge that. Anyways, I thought the defense 98 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 8: did well. Take the fumble away from from Turpid, which 99 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 8: he did, but I'm just saying, you know, you take 100 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 8: that away. I don't think they're really driving and doing 101 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 8: a lot of stuff on that defense. So I thought 102 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 8: I thought the defense did a good job, and I 103 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 8: said it to you in the press box. If this 104 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 8: is your backups, look at the guys that they got 105 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 8: trotten out there. It just shows good depth. 106 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 3: Especially to that point when you see a guy like 107 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 3: one Ya Tommas, who's been building you know, good days 108 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 3: in camp come out there, second player from scrimmage, and 109 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 3: he intercepts not be a third and not Roork. He 110 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 3: intercepts Trevor Lawrence trying to get one of his top 111 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 3: receivers down the left side line. I mean, that's. 112 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 8: Promising, such a good play. You had to kind of 113 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 8: have an outburst, you know, it happened. All right, Let's 114 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 8: here's what I want to do. Here's how I want 115 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 8: to review this game. 116 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 7: I have a full list of players and I'm gonna 117 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 7: throw out a name and then I. 118 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 5: Want you guys, just riff what did you see? What 119 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 5: did you like? What did you not like? And let's 120 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 5: talk about it. From that standpoint. 121 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 7: You've already mentioned who I thought was probably the player 122 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:39,919 Speaker 7: of this game, Duece Vaughan. He had eight carries for 123 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 7: fifty yards, a six point three average, a touchdown, and 124 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 7: a couple of highlights that I've seen all over the place. 125 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 7: I mean, you know, just he was the kind of 126 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 7: that was a game for him where I think coming 127 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 7: out of the game as similar to what happened with 128 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 7: Kevante Turpin last year when he had the return for 129 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:56,479 Speaker 7: a touchdown. 130 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 5: I think nationally people start saying, oh wow, that's a 131 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 5: new toy for the Cowboys. What were your thoughts on 132 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 5: duce Fon. 133 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 8: Well, he's going up to make catches in the middle 134 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 8: of the field, he's running the in between tackles and 135 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 8: all that stuff. These are the things he's doing as 136 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 8: a running back. And when I got a chance to 137 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 8: talk to Will McClay last week, he said, we drafted 138 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:15,679 Speaker 8: a running back. We didn't just draft his gadget player. 139 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 8: We drafted a running back. And I think he showed 140 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 8: that right there. And I think, you know, I was 141 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 8: talking to some people. They have a decision to make 142 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:24,840 Speaker 8: on Deuce. What do they want to do with him? 143 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 8: Do they want to say, all right, this week starter? 144 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 8: And I say that because it's really still the backups 145 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 8: and all that. So you start the game and you 146 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 8: get a chance to get some good run. Or do 147 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 8: you just say, listen, let's let's feel this thing back 148 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 8: and let's not let other teams know what we're gonna 149 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 8: do with him. But he needs to work. It's a 150 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:43,919 Speaker 8: tough it's always a tough dilemma. 151 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like I'm right there on the line. 152 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 3: I feel like it's nearly time to bubble wrap him, 153 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 3: like how we failed for Kvanti Turpin after those two 154 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 3: kick returns last year. But I feel like, again, like 155 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 3: you said, Nick, he does need to work. So I 156 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 3: would get him to work. In preseason game number two 157 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 3: against the Seahawks and then no matter what happens in 158 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 3: that game, I'm sitting him for Game three against the 159 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 3: Las Vegas Raiders. But uh deuce everywhere he did everything. 160 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 3: He was a receiver out of the backfield, he was 161 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 3: in single back sets as a running back. But more 162 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 3: impressive to me, which I should say, what should impress 163 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 3: people more so than anything, It's something that I've kind 164 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 3: of been angling toward people, focusing on people want to 165 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 3: find out who's going to be the short yardage guy 166 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 3: when Tony Pollard is not on the field. Right, So, yes, 167 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 3: you have bigger bodies in Ronald Jones, Malie Davis, Rico 168 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 3: o'dowdle who I have as the front runner for RB 169 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 3: two at the moment. But Duzvon showed you what he 170 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 3: can do in the A gap, in the B gap. 171 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 3: He can get in there, disappear and then he reappears 172 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 3: at the second level, and then it's him in space 173 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 3: versus a linebacker, and you saw what happened there. He 174 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 3: starts collecting ankles like their bottle caps. 175 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 5: And having them destroy each other each other. 176 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 3: Now you see me, now you don't. Duvon just a 177 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 3: fantastic first showing for the Cowboys. 178 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 8: The screen game too, what I love is kind of 179 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 8: out of there. And and the guy made a great 180 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 8: play down by the goal line because he was cutting back. 181 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 8: I thought he was gonna score on that one so close. 182 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 8: But that is going to be a problem just sneaking out. 183 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 8: It reminds me a little bit of I remember Bay 184 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 8: back in the day with the Eagles with Brian Westbrook, 185 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 8: is that you can blitz if you want, and you 186 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 8: want to say, oh, we're gonna attack this little guy 187 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 8: and see if he can picky. That's fine. But if 188 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 8: he sneaks out, yeah, and he jumps it over, now 189 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 8: you got problems. And so it's it's gonna be it's 190 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 8: gonna be a problem there. 191 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 7: Yeah, there are a number of ways to handle the blitz. 192 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 7: Picking up the blitz is one. One another is get 193 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 7: that guy out and whoever's blitzing now is that guy 194 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 7: left in a situation where either that other person is 195 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 7: out there or one on one or nobody accounts for him. 196 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 7: And those can be some interesting things. But you know, 197 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 7: one of the interest things about duce Vaughan is this 198 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 7: was not a surprise for me, and I think for 199 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 7: a lot of people who watch Big twelve football, this 200 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 7: was not a surprise. You're actually looking forward to seeing 201 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:51,559 Speaker 7: it because you were like, rest of the league doesn't 202 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 7: seem to understand what this guy is. 203 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 5: Yes, he's five five, but he is a problem. 204 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 3: The movie on, he keeps hammering that home, trying to 205 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 3: tell people, like, as a former Longhorn, if Marvey on 206 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:04,439 Speaker 3: Overshown one of the main people who've said time and again, 207 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 3: wait until you see what he does at the NFL level. 208 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 3: So's he's a problem for other teams. For other teams 209 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:13,599 Speaker 3: I would like to see, particularly in Game two, I 210 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 3: want to see if they ask him to do more 211 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 3: pass proeh, especially in those single back sets. I want 212 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 3: to see if they ask him to do more of 213 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 3: that so that we could get a better evaluation of 214 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 3: what his potential is there. But other than that, I mean, 215 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 3: he stole the show. 216 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 5: All right, let's move on. Let's talk about my guy, 217 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:28,079 Speaker 5: my Longhorn. 218 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 7: You mentioned him, Marvin Overshewn, another guy that I think 219 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 7: showed up and played some good football. 220 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:36,679 Speaker 5: Tell me what your thoughts on him are. 221 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 7: On him after that game, well, I mean I'll start 222 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 7: other than hook them. 223 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, he looks like he could be a 224 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 8: safety and it might be that thirty five number, but 225 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 8: he hits like a linebacker. He hits like even bigger 226 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 8: than that. I mean, I think I think dan Quinn 227 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 8: has got a perfect toy here a defense. I mean, 228 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 8: you're talking about dudes for the offense. Overshown can be 229 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 8: that guy on defense. He he's just got a great 230 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 8: vision for him. I thought he was flying around. It 231 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 8: was fun to watch. He's gonna be He's gonna and 232 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 8: he's so smart. That's the thing with Douce. These two guys. 233 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 8: You bring in guys that are play a big, big 234 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 8: time football. They're versatile and they're very smart, and they're 235 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 8: capable of picking things up, and that's why I think 236 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 8: they're gonna be able to contribute early. 237 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 3: Overshown Is continued to show that he's a ball magnet. 238 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 3: He was a ball manet ball magnet. I'm sorry with 239 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 3: Texas and he's showing that he's going to be a 240 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 3: ball magnet with the Cowboys. He was flying around. I 241 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 3: asked him after the game, I said, hey, you know, 242 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:33,959 Speaker 3: positionally you're listed as a linebacker. You're a convert from safety. 243 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 3: Do you actually have a position? And his answer was 244 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 3: I My job is to go out there and fly around, 245 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 3: and that's exactly what he was doing against the Jaguars. 246 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 3: And his flexibility, his versatility is going to be key, 247 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:47,199 Speaker 3: and like Nick said, it's a new toy for dan 248 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 3: Quinn and it's one that's gonna be found that under 249 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 3: the War's Waldough category, if you're an opposing offensive coordinator, 250 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 3: you're gonna have to locate Michael Parsons because of the versatility, 251 00:10:57,960 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 3: You're gonna have to locate guys like the Marion over 252 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 3: showing he's on the field. Is he dropping back in coverage, 253 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 3: is he coming forward? Is he playing sideline and sideline? 254 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 3: He can do it all, And I love what Nick said. 255 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 3: The fact is this kid punches above his weight class. 256 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 3: So there were some concerns from some Cowboys fans saying, 257 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 3: well what about his weight coming out of Texas? He 258 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 3: hits above his weight class. He another guy who stole 259 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:20,199 Speaker 3: the show along with. 260 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 8: You know who. He sort of reminds me of it 261 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 8: and not not you know in the head space I'm 262 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 8: talking about just not personality wise, I'm talking about player. 263 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 8: He's got some Rolando McClain to him. In the fact 264 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 8: that you're qualified yeah, a. 265 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 5: Little different, yea, not even a little bit. 266 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 8: Randomclean did not hit the way his body looked like 267 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 8: he would hit, you know what I mean, he just didn't. 268 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 8: And that's why you got to be a little little 269 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:50,559 Speaker 8: crazy to do that. You know, Well, you over over shown, 270 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 8: I not want to say Overstreet over shown has got 271 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 8: some of that. 272 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 7: And you you mentioned that, but that the play that 273 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:59,439 Speaker 7: I think one of the plays at least that that 274 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 7: we saw from over shown on that third and short 275 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 7: where he basically the running backs running full speed and 276 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 7: he basically grabs him and just kind of just just 277 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 7: there the collision and overshown doesn't move at all. He 278 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 7: gives no ground. That's what leads to the fourth down. 279 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 7: That's like Landa McClain. We used to always talk about 280 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 7: it when Alana mcclaan would hit someone. They go down, 281 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 7: there was no extra yard, They didn't fall forward. Where 282 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 7: they were was where they were going down. And I 283 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 7: think that's an interesting the interesting comparison. 284 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 8: I you didn't need binoculars in the press box to 285 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 8: say who hit him? Like you just knew okay, the 286 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 8: way that it just it ended right there. There was 287 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 8: no rack or going on there, you know, hopeing not Yeah, well, 288 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,719 Speaker 8: I mean run after you know, contact or whatever you 289 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 8: want to call it. 290 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 5: There. 291 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:47,319 Speaker 8: All right, let's walk about ball magnets and rack, I mean. 292 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 5: Get Amber off the show and it just goes crazy 293 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 5: right as. 294 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 7: She has her moments. Let's go ahead and we're gonna 295 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 7: take our first break. When we come back, I have 296 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 7: a couple other guys and several other guys we're going 297 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 7: to talk to. 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Check out the 348 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 8: season's four episodes on Cowboys Now, YouTube, Twitter, and Facebook, 349 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 8: or visit Dallas Cowbies dot com. 350 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 5: Slash Deep Blue Welcome back. 351 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 7: Second segment of the Break Life Maxnard, California. 352 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 8: Sea Blue. 353 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 7: We had the first deep plue to run out last Thursday. 354 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 7: Hall of Hawlly Fame the story of Chuck Howley, and 355 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 7: this week we've got a new one that I'm actually 356 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 7: really excited about as well. 357 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 5: Call Close to the Vest. 358 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 7: If you've never heard the story of what happened in 359 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 7: nineteen eighty six, only game in the history of the 360 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 7: NFL that to my knowledge, where a coach was actually 361 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 7: asked to leave the field because there was a threat 362 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 7: on his life. 363 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 5: During a game. So interesting, intriguing story to say the. 364 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 7: Our security guy, mister Wansley, is involved in this documentary 365 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 7: and kind of told us the story and told us 366 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 7: his story, so it's a part of that as well, 367 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 7: but really really cool story. So makes you check that 368 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 7: out this Thursday, and I think seven pm Central Time 369 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 7: is when we'll be streaming it on all. 370 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 5: Across all our platforms. 371 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 7: You'll be able to check it out there and also 372 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 7: be on demand for across our platforms for you guys 373 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 7: to watch as well. All right, let's get back into 374 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 7: this the recap of the game. 375 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 5: Let's talk about the quarterback, Will Greer. 376 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 7: He was twenty two of thirty one seventy completion rate. 377 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 7: That's a very good completion rate, one hundred and ninety 378 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 7: nine yards, two touchdowns, one interception. I got the sense 379 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 7: watching the game and throughout the game that when I 380 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 7: saw the numbers after the game, I thought the numbers 381 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 7: were better than what I watched. 382 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 5: Sod you guys get the same because. 383 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 8: There's yeah, and there's one reason for that. Send me 384 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 8: for Hoko. How many times did he snap the ball 385 00:16:59,880 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 8: and throw it straight to Fojoko? Give him credit for that. 386 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 8: That's fine, that's recognizing corners. We want to play ten 387 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 8: yards off, that's fine. I'm gonna throw it to the foco. 388 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 8: We're gonna get five or six, seven yards whatever, not nine. 389 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 8: Sometimes that's gonna help your completion percentage. You're right, I 390 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 8: think I think his numbers looked better. There were some 391 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 8: times it was okay, it was good and bad. He 392 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:19,199 Speaker 8: got a lot of reps and he's more you know, 393 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:22,199 Speaker 8: mobile obviously than Cooper Rush. So but I thought he 394 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 8: played okay. But yeah, I agree, the numbers look better 395 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 8: than the eye test didn't wasn't. 396 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 3: There And when you go back and look at the 397 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 3: film on will Grid from that game, it was solid, 398 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 3: but he could have been better. And he come up 399 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 3: here and admit the same thing. That interception on first 400 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 3: and ten uh in the fourth quarter. That can't happen. 401 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 3: He wants that playback, the throw to Sean McEwan out 402 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:44,880 Speaker 3: to the left flat. He wants that throwback to throw 403 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 3: the Jalen Brooks out to the right flat. He wants 404 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 3: that throwback. But then semi Fojoko, So give him credit 405 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:52,679 Speaker 3: for making the completions. But two consecutives Semifo Hoko, and 406 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 3: I think it was on that drive. He had three 407 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 3: consecutive the Dennis Houston who made some play, so those 408 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:59,679 Speaker 3: are that's five. So those are five completions. Give him 409 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 3: credit for that. But as far as statistics versus gameplay, 410 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:05,719 Speaker 3: it makes the statistics look a little bit better than 411 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 3: maybe the gameplay was so really solid game from Will Grier, 412 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 3: but he does need to stop trying to make the 413 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 3: big play where the big play is not there. And 414 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 3: I think he'll have a better showing against the Seahawks 415 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 3: if he takes that the heart. 416 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 7: All right, let's move on to Damone Clark, the other 417 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 7: linebacker in this game. 418 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 5: What were your thoughts on him? 419 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 3: I can't. I don't have enough praise for what I'm 420 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 3: seeing Fordmond Clark. I've been as timing again this offseason. 421 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 3: What defensive guy do I think makes the huge leap 422 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:37,479 Speaker 3: in year two, and you could go to Sam Williams 423 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:39,399 Speaker 3: and he played well as well, but Damon Clark is 424 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 3: just primed to do so, especially now that he's taking 425 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 3: on that starter row alongside Laton Vanderish. Damon Clark had 426 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:48,479 Speaker 3: a strong game, to say the least, his name. It 427 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:50,880 Speaker 3: was being called all over the place in the first quarter, 428 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:52,959 Speaker 3: first half of the game before we started kind of 429 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 3: migrating to Hey, the Marion overshown has taken over this 430 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 3: game as well, So Damon Clark de Marrion overshown. Those 431 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 3: two linebackers are showing the cow Boy's depth problem at 432 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 3: linebacker might not be one at all. 433 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 8: So yeah, yeah, he's got so much range, you know it. 434 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:11,479 Speaker 8: Look he looked thinner to me. He looked or leaner 435 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 8: maybe is the right word. He just I'm not saying 436 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 8: he was, you know, overweight or anything last year, but bulky. 437 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 8: But if you're gonna if you're gonna be out with 438 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:20,719 Speaker 8: an injury for a while, espreshly at neck injury, you're 439 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 8: gonna be out for a while. You come back, you're 440 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 8: not gonna be in the same shape you are. Now 441 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 8: he's been he's been really like he just he just 442 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 8: looks more like a safety like it. I know I 443 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 8: said that about Overshowing, but that's what they look. But 444 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 8: he's got that speed, he's strong as an ox, and 445 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 8: I love his mentality. His mentality, it's just no nonsense, 446 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 8: ready to ball out. He's He's done that since the 447 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 8: day he got here. I mean, this defense has wild 448 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 8: cards to me, Like, you know who the stars are. 449 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 8: But if these four or five guys, and I think 450 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,439 Speaker 8: Bland is one, I think I think over shown as 451 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 8: one demo Clark, I think Fowler and Sam what these 452 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 8: guys also give you stuff with? You know what you're 453 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:01,919 Speaker 8: gonna get over? Man, this could be really nasty. 454 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 3: When you see a guy who's as who has the 455 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 3: frame of Damon Clark, who's as chiseled as Damon Clark, 456 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 3: nearly run down a running back from the backside who's 457 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 3: going to the left of the play, and Damon is 458 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 3: coming in from the right side of the play. That's 459 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 3: really all you need to see to understand what the 460 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 3: moon Clark might be In twenty twenty three. Yeah, it was. 461 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 7: Interesting after that game as I was thinking about it. 462 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 7: Between those two, the one thing I think that we 463 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 7: all saw was the speed, their ability to get sideline 464 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 7: the sideline to make plays. And again over shown that's 465 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 7: who he was in college. He was a guy who 466 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 7: was always around the ball. Every play almost you'd see 467 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,160 Speaker 7: overshown was around the ball, whether it was downfield, whether 468 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 7: it's up near the line of scrimma. He was just 469 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 7: a guy that has a knackt for the ball and 470 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 7: was around the ball. But you see those two guys running, 471 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 7: and I think it makes it even more imperative that 472 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 7: a guy like Mazzie Smith get in here and get 473 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 7: his feet under him, because if those guys up front 474 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 7: can keep bodies off these linebackers, these linebackers can definitely 475 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 7: run and they. 476 00:20:55,800 --> 00:21:00,360 Speaker 5: Can create some problems for a post to bank exactly right. 477 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 5: All right, let's move on. Let's talk about Brandon. 478 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 7: Aubrey, which I thought was an interesting day for him. 479 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 7: He made the one field goal he had was twenty 480 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 7: nine yards. He was two or three on extra points. 481 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 7: He did miss one of his extra points. We had 482 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 7: five touchbacks, which, again, when you're kicking off, that's a 483 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:16,400 Speaker 7: good thing. 484 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:17,919 Speaker 5: What were your thoughts on on Auburn. 485 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 3: The power in his leg is there, It's evident. I mean, 486 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 3: he's absolutely just kicking sticks of dynamite on kickoff. So 487 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 3: you know, when you talk about who is going to 488 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 3: be the kicker for the Dallas Cowboys in twenty twenty three, 489 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 3: like you said, you got a factor in the kickoff 490 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 3: as well, because if you talk about a guy like 491 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 3: Robbie Good, now, the question is will he be able 492 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:40,640 Speaker 3: to do kickoffs and things like that. So he's got 493 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 3: that in the bag. Alby does as far as kickoffs 494 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 3: are concerned, kicking he had. He was having a good 495 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 3: game until he missed the extra point and then comes 496 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 3: the PTSD for all involved because we're like, oh my god, 497 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 3: Brett Maher, we've been through this before. Now. Aubrey was 498 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 3: asked about it after the game and he said that 499 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 3: the operation was clean and it did look clean on film, 500 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 3: but he admitted that he quote unquote rushed it and 501 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 3: he didn't have to do that. So hopefully he settles 502 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 3: in for game two. But all in all, it's a 503 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,360 Speaker 3: passing grade. You just hate that an extra point kind 504 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 3: of put a black eye on. 505 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 8: It because it was a bad miss. Yeah, just like 506 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 8: oh did he No? It wasn't end Dan, Like, no, 507 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:21,919 Speaker 8: I think I don't think he I don't think he 508 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 8: connected with the net there. You know, I think it's 509 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 8: a souvenirio. What happened at the stadium. I mean, that's 510 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:28,880 Speaker 8: just that's bad as I mean, it's a bad miss. 511 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,640 Speaker 8: But you gotta remember, I mean, this is a huge 512 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 8: chance that they're taking on him because he did not 513 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 8: even play college football. He didn't kick, you know, at 514 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 8: the big House in Michigan, or that he didn't do that. 515 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,159 Speaker 8: He's kicked at the USFL, which I don't think is 516 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 8: setting attendance records either. So I mean, I know some 517 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:48,400 Speaker 8: some teams are some teams over there decent crowds. This 518 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,880 Speaker 8: is this is still new to him. So I think 519 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 8: it's you know, he's competing with every kicker that's not 520 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 8: doesn't have a job right now. 521 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 7: Absolutely fact, did you guys come out of that game 522 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 7: sold that he more soul, more confident, that he could 523 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 7: be the kicker less confident or about. 524 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 8: The less confident for me, less confident. 525 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 3: I gotta my needle hasn't moved in one direction or 526 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 3: the other. Because it started to nudge forward just a 527 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 3: little bit, and then he missed the extra point and 528 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 3: they dropped right back down. So I'm still where I 529 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 3: was before the game, and we're looking at game too now. 530 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 8: I think the standard has gotten really low though, because 531 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,679 Speaker 8: we're you know, like the touchdown Tolbert like great, and 532 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 8: then it's like it made the expert. We're all like, 533 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 8: we're watching extra points. I mean, how about a fifty 534 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 8: one yard field goal, you know in Seattle with with 535 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 8: you know, against the win or maybe in a little 536 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 8: bit of rate and hopefully not rained, but you know, 537 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,640 Speaker 8: but something like that in some elements. Let's see, let's 538 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 8: see something like that, because right now, extra points and 539 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 8: twenty five yard field goals, I think that's that should 540 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 8: that shouldn't be the standard, you know what I mean. 541 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,679 Speaker 8: So I didn't. I'm just a little shaky on him still, 542 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,439 Speaker 8: but he seems like it'd be great for the practice squad. 543 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:58,640 Speaker 8: But that doesn't help you on kickoffs. 544 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,120 Speaker 7: I meant at the end of the day, I do 545 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 7: think we talked about this last week, like it's it's 546 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 7: going to change. 547 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,400 Speaker 5: In my opinion, it's going to change how they play offense. 548 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 7: Last year, I think they would get within a fifty 549 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 7: to fifty two yard and they would think, Okay, yeah, 550 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 7: we got it, we got the field goal, we're in 551 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 7: field goal range. I don't think that's the way you 552 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 7: play it this year. I think you're gonna be thinking, hey, 553 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 7: we really are never necessarily just we're settling for a 554 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 7: field goal. 555 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,400 Speaker 5: It's always you know, foot on the gas. 556 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 7: Let's go and let's see if we can get in 557 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 7: the end zone, because you just don't know. I think 558 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 7: it's a it's I don't I wouldn't call it a crapshoot. 559 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 7: I think he's better than that. But I do think 560 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,679 Speaker 7: there's always that question mark until he earns that credibility 561 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,160 Speaker 7: where you know he's money. We put him out there 562 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 7: on forty five yard he's gonna make We put him 563 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 7: out there on fifty yard, he's gonna make it. Until 564 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 7: you get to that point, it's gonna have to change 565 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 7: the office. 566 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 8: I would I would take a Crosby or Robbie Gold. 567 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 8: I would take a guy that's older that I think 568 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 8: is gonna make him in the forties forty five because 569 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 8: I've got Michael Parsons. And I say that because I 570 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 8: don't have to kick a fifty five yarder every time. 571 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 8: If I'm at the thirty five and it's fourth and 572 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 8: six or whatever, I'm okay with anger punting it to 573 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 8: the eight first intent and then let them play the 574 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 8: way they want to play. 575 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 5: When you know that might get your turnover more you 576 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 5: might get a turnover. 577 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 8: Or you're probably gonna be punning it back to turping 578 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 8: here at midfield in about three minutes. So I go 579 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 8: shorter field goals. I'm fine. I don't need to be 580 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 8: kicking a lot of mainfield goals because I got a 581 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 8: defense I trust. 582 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:22,679 Speaker 3: But Derek, we talked about this on the show a 583 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 3: few episodes ago, and you know, one of my biggest 584 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 3: things is kick the crutch from under the offense. Kick 585 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,439 Speaker 3: the crutch away, and the crutch being if you know 586 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 3: you got a guy who can boom a sixty yard 587 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 3: field goal, then at the beginning of that drive, you 588 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 3: have that in your back pocket. If you take that 589 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 3: out of your back pocket, it's likely going to change 590 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 3: the entirety of how you call that drive. Now you're 591 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 3: going to be more aggressive. Now you're trying to get 592 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:44,919 Speaker 3: across the fifty. You're trying to stretch the field. So 593 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,199 Speaker 3: I'm all for that. If you have a kicker that 594 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 3: can be efficient up to forty five fifty yards but 595 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 3: not longer than that. 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For more information, visit Dallas Cowboys 659 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:30,399 Speaker 8: dot com slash Training Camp. 660 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 5: Welcome back. 661 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:33,360 Speaker 7: It is the final segment of the Break with Life 662 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:34,640 Speaker 7: Max Snart, California. 663 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,680 Speaker 5: It is our our We only have two shows here 664 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 5: this week. 665 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 7: We got one today, we got one Wednesday, and then 666 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 7: we'll be heading to like I said, Seattle on Friday. 667 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,959 Speaker 7: Cowboys will take on Seattle Seahawks this Sunday, Saturday, and 668 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 7: then we'll be back in Dallas probably like about I 669 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 7: don't know, five six o'clock in the morning on Sunday, 670 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 7: and ready to do it all again next Monday. 671 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 5: Welcome to the season, guys. Yeah, is what we're doing. 672 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 5: All right, let's jump back in. We got more names 673 00:28:58,080 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 5: I want to throw to you. 674 00:28:58,760 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 3: Guys. 675 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 7: Coming off the Cowboys first preseason game, talk to me 676 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 7: about Jaalen Tobert. 677 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 5: What were your thoughts. Two catches, twenty nine yards on 678 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 5: a touchdown. 679 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 8: I thought a bad call from the offensive pass interference. 680 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 8: I love the fact that he went and got the football. 681 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 8: That's the one I like, the one that didn't even count. 682 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 8: He went and got the ball, go back. I mean, 683 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 8: that's most crews aren't gonna call that. I think I 684 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 8: thought that was really ticky Tag. That's the player I 685 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 8: like the most because I think it showed the aggressive 686 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 8: stallies of alert catching tipped passes, smooth, he looks. You know, 687 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 8: we've been saying it all year. Stop stop talking. You're 688 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 8: saying all the right things, but nothing matters until you 689 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 8: go play. 690 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 3: And he did a good job, kind of kind of 691 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 3: the opposite of to a degree, what we're talking about 692 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 3: with Will Gear the stats look good. 693 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, but the film, I'm with you. 694 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 3: When it comes to Jaylen Tobert. The stats from last 695 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 3: game aren't good. But if you watch the game, he 696 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,239 Speaker 3: was good. And of course if you can factor in 697 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 3: if you would have been able to factor in the 698 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 3: catch from that turn into OPI, which it was not 699 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 3: OPI because the guy was already beat, and then there 700 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 3: was the jersey pull after. So but that's long story. 701 00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 3: Go on Twitter and you'll see my rent on that. 702 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 3: But that catch showed you everything you needed to know 703 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 3: about where Jaylen Tobert is in his development. The fact 704 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 3: that the release was fantastic. He had the guy beat 705 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 3: on the release. The speed was there on the go 706 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 3: route and then to turn around, elevate, locate the ball, 707 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 3: come down with it and get both feed and bounds. 708 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 3: That sideline awareness. That's what the Cowboys drafted Jayleen Tobert 709 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 3: to be and it shows. And then I also liked 710 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 3: that on the touchdown play. You gotta love the kids 711 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 3: first touchdown on the Cowboys uniform, but if you go 712 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 3: back and look at their route. First of all, fantastic 713 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 3: play called by Mike McCarthy. But when you look at 714 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 3: that route, it was so crisp and clean and so 715 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 3: deceptive from Jaalen Tobert to pretend that he's sitting and 716 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 3: sell it so well that the linebacker sat with him. 717 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 3: But then it was hah, I gotcha. I'm gone middle 718 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 3: of the field to catch touchdown. There you go. So 719 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 3: I love what I saw from Jaalen Tobert. He's another 720 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 3: guy who's been out here doing it in camp. Like 721 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 3: Nick said, we hear you, we see you. Where's it 722 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 3: that when it's time for the bright lights to come on? 723 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 3: Bright lights came on at least semi bright lights came 724 00:30:58,360 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 3: on last Saturday, and he showed up. 725 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 7: He's been a name that I think most of you 726 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 7: guys who've been watching these practices and reporting on these 727 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 7: practices have been noticing he looks like an. 728 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 5: Improved player over where he was last year. 729 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 7: He's talked about that, like you said, Nick, Now he's 730 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 7: trying to show it what he's been talking about. 731 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 5: Let's talk about Cavante Turpin. 732 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 7: He had one catch fifteen yards turned fumble. Is he 733 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 7: is there any chance that he is not your punt 734 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 7: returner when the season gets here. I know there have 735 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 7: been people who have started to talk about duce Von like. 736 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 5: Hey man, you know you got Ducevan. Maybe he should 737 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 5: be the guy that's back there. 738 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 7: I have a hard time believing that Camante Turpin, just 739 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 7: from his skill level, is not the guy. But do 740 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 7: you think there's even a chance that that could happen. 741 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 8: There's always a chance. I think he's still a dangerous 742 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 8: threat with the ball in his hands. Now he's gonna 743 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 8: have to get away from people because I mean he can't. 744 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 8: He will fumble, I mean, or he has and he's 745 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 8: had some other place to last year too. You remember 746 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 8: either the ball hit him in the face mask, I 747 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 8: mean the ball control was an issue at times. I 748 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 8: thought from what it sounds like, he didn't. He didn't 749 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 8: have a great game at all. I mean, uh in Saturday, 750 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 8: because he had some also some some mental errors lining 751 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 8: up wrong receiver wise. So grades Tolburt and Houston grated out, Well, 752 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 8: it doesn't sound like Turpin did so that that was 753 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 8: kind of an issue there because we were trying to 754 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 8: see what he did at receiver and so you know 755 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:22,719 Speaker 8: he's like, oh, we know he's a good returner. Well 756 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 8: then he fumbles there, he drops a receiver and also 757 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 8: had some mental error. So he needs to he'll he'll 758 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 8: need to step it up here in Seattle. But hey, 759 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 8: I'll be on the sidelines for the Seattle game. I 760 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 8: was on the sidelines for the Charger game and I 761 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 8: saw two touchdowns in a row. So I have a 762 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 8: feeling I'm gonna get a fiscal Sea. Maybe we'll find out. 763 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 8: We'll find out. Yeah, I hope that's why. I hope 764 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 8: it doesn't rain. It rains. I won't be on side. 765 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 9: Yes, oh yes, you will right eat Seattle. 766 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 8: Who picked this? 767 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 3: I mean, I think there's a chance, but I think 768 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 3: that chance is exceptionally slim right now that there would 769 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 3: be any other returner for the Boys in twenty twenty 770 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 3: three whose name is not Cavante Turpin. And you're going 771 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 3: to see, unfortunately, a mistake here or there. You saw 772 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 3: it last year in the season, and hopefully this is 773 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 3: him getting it out of the way. I'm talking about 774 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 3: the fumble on his first return against Jacksonville. But I'm 775 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 3: left to wonder when you look at Cavante Turpin in 776 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 3: that game, I wonder if he was using too much 777 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 3: of his mental bandwidth on trying to prove what he 778 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 3: can be offensively, and it kind of stole some of 779 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 3: that bandwidth as far as just the muscle merimory of 780 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 3: what he needs to do making plays as the returner. 781 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 3: But he showed some bad things, the fumble being one, 782 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 3: the drop key dropped being another. But then he showed 783 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 3: me some good things on the fumble on Rico Dawdle 784 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 3: Cavante Turpin. Yes, that didn't go how the Cowboys wanted 785 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 3: to go, but there's this little tough guy all the 786 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 3: way downfield still blocking at the two in the one 787 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 3: yard line. That effort was there. He made an impactful 788 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 3: catch for a first down in the second half, so 789 00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 3: mentally he bounced back from it. Overall, I agree with Nick. 790 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 3: I don't think that he graded out well for this game, 791 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 3: but I did see some resiliency in the second half 792 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 3: that I'm hoping translates over offensively to the game against 793 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,440 Speaker 3: the Seahawks. But as a returner again, hopefully he just 794 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,359 Speaker 3: that's getting it out the way so we don't see 795 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:15,240 Speaker 3: it in the regular season. 796 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 7: This player I've probably been more excited about seeing in 797 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 7: this preseason game than any other player, just based on 798 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 7: what I've seen out here in practice and what I didn't. 799 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:26,400 Speaker 5: Know about him until we got out here. 800 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 7: Practice John Stevens, he had five catches fifty six yards 801 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 7: a touchdown twenty one was his longest catch. What his 802 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 7: thoughts on John Stevens and his ability to. 803 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 5: Maybe make this team. 804 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 8: I think you got a tied end whisper going on 805 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 8: with Lounda Wells. 806 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,400 Speaker 5: He knows how to find him, how to find him. 807 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 8: I mean he'll tell you last year. I mean he 808 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,720 Speaker 8: told everybody Peyton Hitters shot watch this guy. He's got something. 809 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:49,840 Speaker 8: He's been saying about John Stevens since the minute that 810 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 8: they signed him. I mean, he's just tall, lanky guys, 811 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 8: but also not afraid to mix it up as blockers. 812 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 8: It's one thing to just getting a tall guy and 813 00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 8: call him a tight end, but you got to be 814 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 8: able to get in the trenches. And I think John 815 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,959 Speaker 8: Stevens did that that he also did the other things 816 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:04,280 Speaker 8: that he's been doing on a camp. 817 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 3: Correct and on top of that, this is one of 818 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:10,320 Speaker 3: those situations where the stats do actually mirror what happened 819 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 3: in the game. Targeted seven times, brought it down five times, 820 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,439 Speaker 3: fifty six yards and a touchdown later in the game. 821 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 3: That implies that that player had a good game. Go 822 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,319 Speaker 3: back and look at the film, and that player did 823 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,279 Speaker 3: in fact have a good game in John Stevens. And 824 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,759 Speaker 3: you also saw some of the things translate from camp 825 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,319 Speaker 3: practices as far as John Stevens lining up on the 826 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 3: outside as well. And when he lined up on the 827 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,880 Speaker 3: outside in one particular play that Jaalen Tobert touchdown, the 828 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,359 Speaker 3: safety and the defensive back the cornerback on that side 829 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 3: of the field, they both had to respect his ability 830 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 3: and his size, and that helped clear out the middle 831 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 3: for Jayleen Tobert. So John Stevens lunda, Wells, Mike McCarthy, 832 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 3: Will McLay, You've done it again, and it is going 833 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,400 Speaker 3: to make for a very interesting conversation as far as 834 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 3: fifty three man cutdowns go. If John Stevens continues this trajectory. 835 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 7: Talk to me about the first round pick, Bozzie Smith. 836 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:54,400 Speaker 7: What'd you see? 837 00:35:56,000 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 8: Honestly, not not a ton. I mean that's maybe because 838 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,279 Speaker 8: I forgot my binoculars, but I mean, you know what 839 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 8: I mean, was a big boy. 840 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 5: You didn't need binocular Well, no, I don't. 841 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 8: I don't know. Did he make a ton of plays? 842 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 8: I didn't. I didn't really see him. 843 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,399 Speaker 3: So from from what I saw, the reason that his 844 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,759 Speaker 3: name wasn't called often as far as making plays was 845 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 3: went back and looked at the film yesterday and there 846 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:23,359 Speaker 3: were several occasions where the Jaguars threw double and on 847 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,719 Speaker 3: one occasion a triple team at him before the third 848 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:29,480 Speaker 3: got peeled off for another assignment. So the immediate respect 849 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 3: looks like it's being paid to Mossie Smith and his 850 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 3: strength and what he can do. And then when they 851 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:38,880 Speaker 3: didn't double team him, he absolutely humiliated someone's father, brother, 852 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 3: uncle by just shedding him, just throwing him to the 853 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 3: ground and then getting there for Yeah, it could have 854 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 3: been a TfL but probably was a stop at the 855 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 3: line of scrimmage on a run to the left side. 856 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,799 Speaker 3: So it looked as if when Mazie isn't getting that, 857 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:54,880 Speaker 3: isn't being forced to eat up double teams, which is 858 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,839 Speaker 3: one reason that he's here. And if it's one on 859 00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 3: one he won more often than not. But then the 860 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,919 Speaker 3: double team guess what his teammates were able to win. 861 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,759 Speaker 3: Chauncey Goosten was able to win, Osa was able to win, 862 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 3: So from an overall grade, he did exactly what he 863 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:11,400 Speaker 3: was supposed to do even when he wasn't able to 864 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:11,799 Speaker 3: do much. 865 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:13,400 Speaker 7: And one of the things that looked apparent to me 866 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 7: was even on plays where he wasn't the guy that 867 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,799 Speaker 7: made the tackle in the run game, when the Cowboys 868 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 7: made good stops in the run game. Typically what I 869 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 7: saw if Mozzi was on the field, Mazzi was in 870 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,239 Speaker 7: a spot he did not move, and because he did 871 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 7: not move, running backs had to adapt, and when they adapted, 872 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 7: it created less room for them and that forced that 873 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,600 Speaker 7: that allowed the Cowboys defense to get in and make 874 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,880 Speaker 7: the tackle. So there's gonna be a lot of times 875 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 7: when you will see a game. 876 00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,240 Speaker 5: Where you're like, did Mozzie Smith play? 877 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 7: But all you have to do is go look at 878 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,440 Speaker 7: the film and watch what happens on these running downs 879 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:50,759 Speaker 7: and you will see his impact. I think it's it's 880 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,400 Speaker 7: apparent when you watch that. It just may not always 881 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:54,360 Speaker 7: be apparent in the statue. 882 00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,480 Speaker 8: Well, and that's why you have these If you're gonna 883 00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 8: clog the middle, you gotta have linebackers that can chase 884 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,279 Speaker 8: sides of the sideline, which is what we've been talking 885 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:01,640 Speaker 8: about real quick. 886 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,720 Speaker 7: I do want to talk about one other guy, Eric Scott. 887 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 7: He's a guy that got a lot of love out 888 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:11,759 Speaker 7: here at practices throughout training camp, cornerback draft pick. What 889 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:13,279 Speaker 7: did you guys see from him to see anything in 890 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,320 Speaker 7: this game or see anything after the game in watching 891 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,840 Speaker 7: film that may have given you an idea on him. 892 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 8: Six round pick from Southern miss you know, and the 893 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,279 Speaker 8: lights were on and it wasn't his best It wasn't 894 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:29,480 Speaker 8: his best performance. I mean, like, I think he had 895 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,520 Speaker 8: been doing some really good things out here. You want 896 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,520 Speaker 8: to see him and carry over. It wasn't terrible, but 897 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,280 Speaker 8: I mean they just wanted him to kind of compete 898 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,359 Speaker 8: a little bit more. He was not the best sixth 899 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,440 Speaker 8: round pick on the of the night for the Cowboys, 900 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 8: I think. But are they discouraged? No, No, this guy's 901 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:49,480 Speaker 8: got he's I love his demeanor, his confidence is good. 902 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,080 Speaker 8: He'll he'll be fine. I really do. I think he'll 903 00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 8: he'll be fine. I just don't think it was his 904 00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 8: best game. 905 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, he has the demeanor, He's definitely got that dog mentality. 906 00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,719 Speaker 3: He has the skill set, albeit it does need you know, 907 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:05,080 Speaker 3: the sixth round pick. He's a rookie. But looking at 908 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 3: the film, he got caught with his eyes in the 909 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 3: backfield a little one too many times from my liking, 910 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:13,920 Speaker 3: and that allowed free releases out of the backfield that 911 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:17,160 Speaker 3: allowed his receivers signing sometimes to get out in space 912 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,160 Speaker 3: when otherwise he may not have. So I think that 913 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,040 Speaker 3: that's the key for Eric Scott going forward, especially going 914 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,319 Speaker 3: into Game two against the Seattle Seahawks, is that he 915 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 3: needs to just understand his assignments, his keys and not 916 00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 3: try to overplay or not try to do too much. 917 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 3: I think that could go to the fact that came 918 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,279 Speaker 3: from a smaller school. The big lights went on, he 919 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,920 Speaker 3: was at at and T Stadium, the pomp and circumstance 920 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,280 Speaker 3: of it all, and maybe he felt like he needed 921 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,440 Speaker 3: to prove when really he just needs to play football 922 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:43,840 Speaker 3: and be Eric Scott. 923 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,000 Speaker 8: And he'll get more reps because I don't It doesn't 924 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,480 Speaker 8: sound like Nation will play this week. That means Bland 925 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:50,800 Speaker 8: will play something. You don't want to play him a 926 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,880 Speaker 8: ton anyways, And you've got Kelvin Joseph out there, and 927 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:57,160 Speaker 8: I would think Eric Scott will come in after that. 928 00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,440 Speaker 8: So I mean Eric Scott has a chance to play 929 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:00,560 Speaker 8: a lot in this escape. 930 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:02,560 Speaker 7: Ye all right, we appreciate you guys, Jonas. We will 931 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 7: be back on Wednesday. We're gonna wrap this camp up 932 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 7: on Wednesday. I'm gonna have lots of question for these 933 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 7: guys about their big picture thoughts on this team. After 934 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:13,799 Speaker 7: finishing a whole training camp and then heading back to 935 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:17,040 Speaker 7: Frisco for about another week of training camp before we 936 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:18,919 Speaker 7: get ready for the season. Until then, for Nick even 937 00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,279 Speaker 7: Patrick Walker, I'm Derek and this has been the Break 938 00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,640 Speaker 7: live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. 939 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,719 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 940 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,840 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.