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Speaker 1: you between the Lakers, Celtics last night, Niners, Eagles earlier

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Speaker 1: I worked for Howie. He's a wheeler and dealer. He

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Speaker 1: put together in a short period of time a real

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Speaker 1: roster around some of his older core guys. I mean,

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Speaker 1: they got that trade he made for A. J. Brown.

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Speaker 1: That's one of the better trades. The same thing with

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Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey. I mean those both those organizations today hung

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Speaker 1: your hat on just being super aggressive, doing things, just

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Speaker 1: not NonStop. And I think a lot of organizations, you

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Speaker 1: know there are somewhat in the middle seven, eight, nine,

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Speaker 1: ten wins. They're just hesitant to do stuff because that

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Speaker 1: is the natural inclination. I think for a lot of

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Speaker 1: football people, just like, let this play out, let the

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Speaker 1: cream kind of rise on our team. These organizations will

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Speaker 1: just keep throwing things. Throw a pick, trade, make this trade,

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Speaker 1: Darius Slay, they made a trade. You know, they're just

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Speaker 1: they're just will And He's always been like that. There's

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Speaker 1: just an organizational philosophy and certain guys to just be

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Speaker 1: super aggressive. And the Eagles really really benefit the Niners

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Speaker 1: the two to get here. But the Eagles, I mean

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Speaker 1: they're in the super Bowl because of it. How he's

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Speaker 1: one with multiple quarterbacks and multiple coaches. I mean, if

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Speaker 1: he looks up Howie roseman Um, he has not been

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Speaker 1: beholden to a singular coach or a singular roster or

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Speaker 1: a singular quarterback. Most gms who have had success, there's

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Speaker 1: usually a great kach or a great quarterback. How he's

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Speaker 1: like the outlier. He's he's one of the multiple guys.

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Speaker 1: So um, that roster just is man. They just don't

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Speaker 1: have They just don't have flaws. That's it's really I think, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we'll think about this. They fired Andy, which it was

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Speaker 1: time for divorce after fourteen years, and they've now made

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Speaker 1: two bowls in the period which Andy's gone on to

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Speaker 1: have historic success with the Chiefs with two different coaches.

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Speaker 1: You know, most most organizations when they fire a really

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Speaker 1: good coach getting to get derailed. And it's hard. I mean,

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Speaker 1: two super Bowls, two different coaches, two different quarterbacks. We

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Speaker 1: should bring up the cowboy thing. I'm sure you talked

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Speaker 1: about last week when Mike was asked about Kellen Moore

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Speaker 1: gave this kind of cloak and dagger weird response. I

463
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Speaker 1: think it's pretty clear Jerry loves this guy, very loyal

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Speaker 1: to the guy, and was okay because they fired a

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Speaker 1: bunch of coaches. My theory was, okay, Mike, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: let you do it your way. We're gonna put it

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Speaker 1: all on you. You make decisions. But today them announcing

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Speaker 1: that they fired their huffins of coordinator during the middle

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Speaker 1: of these games, it was pretty clear they did it

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Speaker 1: like last week, that they just waited because Jerry kind

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Speaker 1: of you know, classic like Sunday a f C Championship

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Speaker 1: news dump. But there is I mean, it feels a

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Speaker 1: little bit like you better make the end of C

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Speaker 1: championshipper bus here from Mike McCarthy doesn't. Yeah, And I

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Speaker 1: think you know, clearly somebody had to take the fall,

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Speaker 1: and so Kellen Moore took the fall. But I think

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys are in a weird spot. So Dalton Schultz,

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Speaker 1: their productive tight end, could be gone. Um yeah, Zeke

479
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Speaker 1: is an expensive short yardage back. They don't have a

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Speaker 1: toh Ceedee Lambs A good one, not a great one. Uh,

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Speaker 1: Michael Gallops at three. He can disappear vanish in big spots. Uh.

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Speaker 1: The old line is I thought they're rebuilding it. They've

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Speaker 1: They've hit a couple. Um, they've got an old Zach Martin,

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Speaker 1: a couple of young players I like. But you know,

485
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Speaker 1: the track record on Doc is take away a Marii Cooper,

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Speaker 1: take away a solid number one receiver and asked Dad

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Speaker 1: to throw more. And we saw it at the end

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Speaker 1: of the year when they didn't run the ball, the Knights,

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Speaker 1: they didn't run the ball or the days and you

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Speaker 1: asked Dad to throw over thirty five times. It gets

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Speaker 1: ugly very quickly. So and that's the new reality now

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Speaker 1: because I think that will be the number two quarterback

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Speaker 1: cap hit and Zeke will be the number two, which

494
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Speaker 1: is really devastating. He'll be the number two running back

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Speaker 1: cap hit. He is a short yardage back. He's not

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Speaker 1: a top twelve back in the league. He may not

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Speaker 1: be top twenty at this point. So, um, you know,

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Speaker 1: if if if McCarthy's, I wish him luck. But they

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Speaker 1: you know, Jerry overpaid for Jalen Smith, you overpaid for Dak,

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Speaker 1: you overpaid for Zeke. And this is exactly what it

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Speaker 1: looks like. You can make the playoffs, but you'll be exposed.

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Speaker 1: And I think one thing the Cowboys benefit from and

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Speaker 1: I throw the Vikings here too because they're stuck with Cousins,

504
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:40,200
Speaker 1: is the NFC. You know, now Rogers probably traded, He'll

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Speaker 1: be gone, you know. The Lions are kind of up

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Speaker 1: and coming, a lot of moving parts with the Rams.

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Speaker 1: They're old and injured. You can make the playoffs probably

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Speaker 1: every year if you have a competent coach and you

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Speaker 1: stay relatively healthy as the Cowboys, but you're as we

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Speaker 1: see like the peak is probably losing in the second

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Speaker 1: round and a decent chance or one and done, you know,

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Speaker 1: And and that's of the problem. But that's still better

513
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Speaker 1: than being a six seven win team. You'll just being

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Speaker 1: eleven twelve wins a team you're in year out. But

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Speaker 1: we can't take you seriously as a Super Bowl container,

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Speaker 1: especially the Eagles and the Niners at least for two

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Speaker 1: more years. They're not paying huge money for their quarterback,

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Speaker 1: so those rosters are going nowhere. And both those organizations

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Speaker 1: draft above average. So I mean you can see, um,

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Speaker 1: I if brock pretty can get you to the NFC

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Speaker 1: Championship game, to me, it feels like San Francisco and

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia just based on a roster strength and head coach

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Speaker 1: Serriani's obviously worked wonders. I don't think the Niners in Philadelphia.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they could have multiple losses in personnel and

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Speaker 1: still be the deepest rosters in the NFC. The one thing,

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Speaker 1: you know, the Eagles might lose a defensive coordinator to

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Speaker 1: become a head coach, and so he'll have to replace

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Speaker 1: his first coordinator. I was gonna lose Dmiko Ryan's so

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Speaker 1: you would say how often he's hit a home run

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Speaker 1: on solo and then he hit a grand slam on Demiko.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty hard to just keep rattling, you know, these

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Speaker 1: future head coaches. One thing McCarthy benefits fromhim. Maybe he

533
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Speaker 1: knew he wasn't gonna get a job, and Jerry probably

534
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Speaker 1: paid him five six million dollars. But dan quinn did

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Speaker 1: come back. That's a huge you know, he doesn't have

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Speaker 1: to worry about that because dan quintet Mike McCarthy's reputation,

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Speaker 1: you know, and also um Washington has a defensive coach.

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Speaker 1: They may stick with him even though they're getting new

539
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Speaker 1: owners there. Sean Payton if he took it would be interesting.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, Washington isn't very well run. The Giants

541
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Speaker 1: have Daniel Jones a ceiling. I mean there's good news

542
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys, is I mean they'll be playing for

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Speaker 1: a wild card spot. They're not beating Philadelphia exactly. The

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Speaker 1: the NFC is wide open. I mean, Minnesota is not

545
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Speaker 1: going to go eleven and oh and one score games. No,

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Speaker 1: so uh. And I think if Seattle doesn't get a

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Speaker 1: core her back, you know they're gonna they're gonna run

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Speaker 1: Gino back. If if they don't draft a quarterback, which

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00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 1: a lot of people suspect they won't, So it's it's

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Speaker 1: Dallas will vie for a playoff spot. But I think

551
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 1: now was Zeke and Dacks contracts, those are punitive hits.

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00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 1: It's you just can't overcome that stuff. Well, speaking of

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Speaker 1: Sean Payton, pretty clear he's probably not coming back in

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Speaker 1: this cycle. I guess Denver potentially could still offer him

555
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 1: a bowload of money, but it feels like that job

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Speaker 1: a lot of people are a little leary, just a

557
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 1: lot of moving parts there. The owner. The owner is

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Speaker 1: actually the son in law of the really wealthy guy.

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Speaker 1: He's kind of wealthy too, but a lot of moving

560
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 1: parts there. If you look at Sean Payton, brand Staley

561
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 1: is going to be in a win or go home

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Speaker 1: next year, right, He's gonna have to make some hay

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Speaker 1: in the playoffs the bills, Like eventually you got Josh Allen,

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Speaker 1: you can't just be losing getting your ass kicked in

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Speaker 1: the second round. I think there's gonna be tangible pressure

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Speaker 1: on Sean McDermott too, at minimum get to the a

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Speaker 1: f C Championship game, if not win the a f C.

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Speaker 1: And obviously my McCarthy. So we're talking about Herbert Josh Allen,

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Speaker 1: those two jobs next year in the cycle. Ideally I

570
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Speaker 1: don't know if he'd want to live in Buffalo, but

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Speaker 1: if you have the opportunity to take Josh Allen, I

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Speaker 1: don't know how you turn that down. And obviously justin

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Speaker 1: Herbert next year and then the Cowboy thing he's always

574
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 1: been rumored because he's worked there once upon a time.

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Speaker 1: To me, it feels like those three jobs the next cycle,

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Speaker 1: Sean Payton basically takes you know, eighteen twenty months to

577
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Speaker 1: just kind of relax through this TV thing and then

578
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Speaker 1: be really the number one. I mean he was the

579
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Speaker 1: number one candidate this year, but the buzz on him

580
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 1: will start being like Gruden levels right when he kept

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Speaker 1: going back to Monday Night football. Also, John, we have

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Speaker 1: to a plus plus college quarterbacks, Drake Bay and Caleb Williams.

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Speaker 1: Good point. So if a team it could it could

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Speaker 1: be anybody. If a team ends up with a number

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Speaker 1: one spot, could be the Colts, could be anybody then

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Speaker 1: that job. So it's gonna be very unique. So we're

587
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Speaker 1: gonna have seven openings because that's the average. One out

588
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Speaker 1: of the seven will probably have a legitimate playoff ish

589
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Speaker 1: quarterback and then two terrible teams getting stars out of

590
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: college who you don't have to pay for four years.

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00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 1: You have all sorts of so to me, some options

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Speaker 1: to me next year, Um, And I don't know what

593
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: jobs will be open, but I think Caleb Williams and

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Speaker 1: Drake May. I've said this before, but once a decade

595
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Speaker 1: you get a quarterback Elway, Andrew Lock, Trevor Lawrence, You're like,

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00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 1: he'll win even in chaos, he'll win a bunch of games.

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Speaker 1: Next year, I think we have two. I think those

598
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 1: guys are different. I think they're I think Caleb is

599
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 1: totally different. Yeah, I mean, look at Doug Peterson takes

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Speaker 1: a Jack's job. He's gonna have that thing for a

601
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 1: long time, agains Trevor Lawrence. He's a good coach anyway,

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Speaker 1: and that thinks Jack's are gonna be the real deal

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00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: if they draft pretty well over the next couple of years.

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Speaker 1: This is fun. Well, see you out here in a

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks gone, all right, Buddy m and the

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Speaker 1: volume