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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 1: We are breaking down here on this Friday edition of

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Speaker 1: the program the just released redacted affid David to justify

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Speaker 1: the FBI raid on mar Alago. I would say fifty

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Speaker 1: to sixty percent of this document is completely blacked out.

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Speaker 1: We are discussing the parts of the document that we

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Speaker 1: can see, Buck, based on everything that I am reading.

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Speaker 1: And again, this has just come down in the last

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Speaker 1: twenty or thirty minutes, so we're reacting in real time

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Speaker 1: to it. This effectively is we talked about Merritt Garland

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Speaker 1: being painted into a corner. There is no dispute that

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Speaker 1: I have seen that Donald Trump had access to all

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Speaker 1: of these documents legally when he was president of the

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Speaker 1: United States. The dispute now seems to be did he

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Speaker 1: have the ability to keep these documents, and if not,

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Speaker 1: was his keeping of these documents such a significant deal

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Speaker 1: that there can be criminal charges brought against him? Absent, Buck,

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Speaker 1: Absent any suggestion or evidence that Trump was somehow trying

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Speaker 1: to sell these documents or that there was in some

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Speaker 1: way a threat of him basically committing espionage, right like, hey, oh,

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Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia, do you want to see what the new

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Speaker 1: fighter jet looks like? Give me five hundred million dollars

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Speaker 1: and I'll give you those documents. Absent something like that happening,

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Speaker 1: which so far there is zero evidence of, and I

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Speaker 1: think it would have already been leaked to the New

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Speaker 1: York Times or the Washington Post, friendly media to the

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Speaker 1: Biden administration. Merritt Garland is faced with a ridiculous choice

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Speaker 1: that he has put himself in, which is either acknowledge

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Speaker 1: that ultimately we got these documents back, there's no issue.

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Speaker 1: We think maybe there were times committed over storage, but

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Speaker 1: we're just going to move on. Or he's going to

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Speaker 1: charge Donald Trump with improperly storing government documents, which to

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Speaker 1: me would be a complete political gift to President Trump

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Speaker 1: because it would confirm in many of our minds what

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Speaker 1: we already suspect, which is there has been a rig

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Speaker 1: job designed to try to get Donald Trump since he

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Speaker 1: announced that he was running for president, and ultimately all

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Speaker 1: they could get him for was improper storage of potential

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Speaker 1: government documents. That's my big picture analysis of this bucket.

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Speaker 1: So what would you add that you're seeing as you're

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Speaker 1: reading through this with, to be fair, a substantial national

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Speaker 1: security background and lots of experience dealing with redacted documents

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Speaker 1: and top secret and classified documents in your career. So

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Speaker 1: here's what I was able to read. One of the

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Speaker 1: upsides of radio as you do get the occasional commercial break, right,

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Speaker 1: So I read the whole thing, which was made easier

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Speaker 1: by the fact that there are whole pages that are

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Speaker 1: like reading, you know, fifteen pages. Some things that stuck

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Speaker 1: out to me. Clay and of course talk about reading

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Speaker 1: reading between the lines, I mean, that's exactly what you're

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Speaker 1: to read really between the redactions. They say that they

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Speaker 1: found in the fifteen boxes of information that was initially

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Speaker 1: transferred to the National Archives, twenty five documents mark top secret,

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Speaker 1: and then a larger number of confidential and secret level documents.

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Speaker 1: Confidential and secret for anybody out there is generally not

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Speaker 1: really I mean it is, it is covered under law,

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Speaker 1: but it's usually stuff, especially at the confidential level. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of stuff that you'll say, should this

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Speaker 1: more likely to label something confidential and not overclassification the

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Speaker 1: to the show, if they saw documents market that it depends.

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Speaker 1: There's millions and millions of pages of this stuff. But

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Speaker 1: most of the time you'd see they'd say, that doesn't

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Speaker 1: community always has to protect. They go into an explanation,

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Speaker 1: the affidavit of HCS, FIZA or CON and no form,

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Speaker 1: which are different designations for classified information. Twenty five top

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Speaker 1: these are declassified. When these press it now they're supposed

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Speaker 1: make the following claims. One that the president has total

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Speaker 1: the president has absolute authority to declassified documents and cites

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Speaker 1: he's essentially saying the president can take whatever documents he wants,

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Speaker 1: The other thing that they'll clay that this will I'm

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Speaker 1: They had a privilege review team that they set up

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Speaker 1: in the custody of the DOJ. Now that's where I

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Speaker 1: start thinking, in January sixth fishing expedition, what else do

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Speaker 1: That's why Trump is asking for a special master to

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Speaker 1: review all of these seized documents. And for those of

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Speaker 1: you who don't know, the Trump legal team has filed saying, hey,

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Speaker 1: we need effectively a third party to be reviewing what

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Speaker 1: What I just come back to again and again buck is,

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Speaker 1: presidential papers? Can I add one thing to this, because

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Speaker 1: you're setting it up entirely properly. I would just put

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Speaker 1: one more little piece into the puzzle. After the clear

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Speaker 1: election of this president, Donald Trump's chief political rival, one

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Speaker 1: hundred percent violated the Espionage Act, did so repeatedly, did

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Speaker 1: so with top secret documents, did so with special access documents.

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Speaker 1: the president. She had the State's secretary of State has

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Speaker 1: in that context, you're they're really thinking about bringing a clay.

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Speaker 1: It's it's hard to fathom that they would really bring

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Speaker 1: how you get I mean, if any of that stuff existed,

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Speaker 1: it would have been on the front page of the

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Speaker 1: paper already. There's also mentioned, specifically in the affidavit of

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Speaker 1: handwritten notes by the president. Yeah, containing classified information. Now,

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Speaker 1: This is executive branch information. How is somebody going to

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Speaker 1: statutory considerations set forth by Congress, but ultimately the actual

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Speaker 1: So if President Trump wrote something out by hand and

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Speaker 1: And here's the other thing I would point out, Buck,

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Speaker 1: The reason why I bring it up is it's not

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Speaker 1: All of that is unprecedented, but you're also prosecuting under

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Speaker 1: It is staggering to me that Merrick Garland could even

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Speaker 1: just feel whimpy every day Clay. They don't have the juice.

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Speaker 1: this is going? We've had really top legal analysts who

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Speaker 1: probably not. Where do you think this is all going?

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Speaker 1: But to me, it's completely political the FBI. Now we

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Speaker 1: have all kinds of proof that they've been politicized at

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Speaker 1: Department Justice, federal health agencies if we have whistleblowers telling

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Speaker 1: They operate with impunity. No matter how much we're outraged

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Speaker 1: We're obviously trying to make sense of this FBI affidavit

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Speaker 1: released by the d J, and we've got a bunch

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Speaker 1: the idea that they could even consider bringing a criminal

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Speaker 1: why I don't I don't underestimate their willingness to especially

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Speaker 1: what we've seen with the Russia collusion mass and the

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Speaker 1: two impeachments over over what right. Remember they impeached Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump twice for what again? Do they't even remember the

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Speaker 1: second time it was because he asked a question about

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Speaker 1: they can, including Facebook suppressing the story about Hunter Biden.

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Speaker 1: Should we sit here and say, where does this really

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Speaker 1: go next? Do you think there's a possibility that they

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Speaker 1: just use this as a It was almost like an

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Speaker 1: early October surprise where they're gonna say Trump is so corrupt,

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Speaker 1: they keep talking about it and leave it at that

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Speaker 1: because then it because it energized the base so much

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Speaker 1: for Trump. Yeah, it's such a good question because you

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Speaker 1: have to try to put yourself in Merrick Garland's head,

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Speaker 1: And to me, the biggest takeaway is there's nothing on

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Speaker 1: January sixth and let me explain what I mean by that.

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Speaker 1: Maybe they're going on a fishing expedition hoping using the

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Speaker 1: National Archives dispute as a pretext to be able to

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Speaker 1: go into Mara Lago and look for documents that don't

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Speaker 1: actually deal with a dispute with the National Archives, and

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Speaker 1: January sixth. That doesn't seem like it to me. It

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Speaker 1: seems like Marrik Garland is getting all this pressure and

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Speaker 1: a raid on Donald Trump, which is unprecedented, over these documents,

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Speaker 1: which is ultimately not that significant, and that this is

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Speaker 1: his release, Valve. I'm just trying to think through it.

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Speaker 1: And let me also point this out, Buck, because I'm

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Speaker 1: glad you mentioned the impeachments. The allegations that came from

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Speaker 1: Russia collusion, Impeachment one and impeachment two. Let's just focus

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Speaker 1: on those three are actually really significant, and not that

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Speaker 1: they were substantiated, but the significance of them. Russia collusion.

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Speaker 1: Trump was working with Russia and that changed the outcome

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Speaker 1: of the twenty sixteen election. That's a big allegation. And

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Speaker 1: if it were true, it would be a big crime.

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Speaker 1: Impeachment one. Trump tried to get the Ukrainian president to

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Speaker 1: investigate the son of his chief political rival improperly. Again,

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Speaker 1: if it were true, it's a big deal. Impeachment to

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Speaker 1: Trump tried to lead an insurrection to overthrow the United

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Speaker 1: States government and the duly elected president who would replace him.

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Speaker 1: This was a default coup. Those are three really big stories.

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Speaker 1: They're not true, but they're really big criminal allegations. What

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Speaker 1: we're talking about right now, Buck, is Trump kept documents

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Speaker 1: from when he was president instead of giving them to

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Speaker 1: the National Archives. The first three here are monster potential stories.

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Speaker 1: The fourth is like he kept a library book too long.

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Speaker 1: What is more likely that there is an effort by

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Speaker 1: the apparatus, the Democrat Party, the federal deep state bureaucrats

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Speaker 1: to just do everything they can over and over again

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Speaker 1: to defeat Donald Trump or destroy Donald Trump. Or that

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Speaker 1: after three huge swing at a miss situations, Yes, they

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Speaker 1: finally now just happened to stumble upon the one thing

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Speaker 1: We heard that for years. These people are out of

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Speaker 1: looking at them. It's so crazy that I can't dismiss

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Speaker 1: the possibility, you know what I mean? And I know

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Speaker 1: that's a cognitive distance there, right, but it's such. It

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Speaker 1: laid out, that he could have declassified these that they

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Speaker 1: personally compile these boxes, that there was a legal process

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Speaker 1: you go through this whole thing. Yes, you say they're

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Speaker 1: there was a special counsel no one even thinks about

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Speaker 1: this one anymore, special counsel looking into the leak of

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Speaker 1: a CIA officer's identity. They knew very early on it

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Speaker 1: was a mistake. It was Richard Armitage who didn't mean

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Speaker 1: to bud he did, But they kept going, why do

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Speaker 1: they use the investigation? They thought they could get either

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Speaker 1: not on actually outing anybody on. They said, lying about

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Speaker 1: a conversation they had two years previously. Clay, this is

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Speaker 1: what libs do because they're crazy, and if they are

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Speaker 1: likely Buck have convinced themselves that Donald Trump is al

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Speaker 1: Capone and they may be trying to do in their

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Speaker 1: mind the equivalent of getting al capone for tax evasion

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Speaker 1: is Oh, Trump's done so many awful things, but we've

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Speaker 1: got him on document storage issues. Will throw the full

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Speaker 1: We'll continue to follow on this and also Biden spoke

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Speaker 1: Clay and I are semi fascists. Apparently a lot of

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