Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from
Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined by my
Speaker 1: trusted colleague Weston hod Kowitz, were coming to you here
Speaker 1: from our studios at lambeau Field and West. The two
Speaker 1: thousand twenty one NFL Draft is in the books. It
Speaker 1: was a busy three days here at six Lombardi Avenue.
Speaker 1: There was another story, obviously that dominated a lot of
Speaker 1: the NFL landscape with regard to what is going on
Speaker 1: between the Packers and Aaron Rodgers. And I don't know
Speaker 1: how this is going to work out. What I do
Speaker 1: know is this you and I aren't going to solve
Speaker 1: the problem, So we're not going to spend time talking
Speaker 1: about it. Instead, we're going to talk about the Packers
Speaker 1: draft from this past weekend. Nine selections in all, one
Speaker 1: trade up. As the Packers had gone into the draft
Speaker 1: with ten selections, came out with nine. You did you did?
Speaker 1: You nailed? I? I said they would still get ten.
Speaker 1: I thought there'd be a trade up and a trade back.
Speaker 1: We didn't get the trade back. We got the trade up,
Speaker 1: so they end up with nine. I want to break
Speaker 1: this down for today's show. At least into two segments.
Speaker 1: The first two days of the draft, the first three rounds,
Speaker 1: and then we'll move on to day three. The first
Speaker 1: couple of days, the Packers get Eric Stokes, the cornerback
Speaker 1: from Georgia, Josh Meyers center from Ohio State, and then
Speaker 1: Amari Rodgers the wide receiver from Clemson. Brian Goudakin's trading
Speaker 1: up seven spots in the third round, surrendering one of
Speaker 1: his fourth round picks in order to get the wide
Speaker 1: receiver from Clemson. What were your thoughts here after the
Speaker 1: first two days, because when we went into this, we
Speaker 1: were talking, okay, you know the priority positions offensive line,
Speaker 1: defensive line, cornerback, and then kind of right underneath that
Speaker 1: maybe would be wide receiver. Well, out of those four,
Speaker 1: the Packers came out of the first two days of
Speaker 1: the draft addressing three of those. I think things worked
Speaker 1: out about as well as they could have hoped. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Packers never draft for need. They always say that
Speaker 1: it's not about needs. But I will say after the
Speaker 1: first five rounds, really they hit on all of them.
Speaker 1: They hit on I think every position that you and
Speaker 1: I talked about, maybe with the exception of inside linebacker,
Speaker 1: but as you and I have also talked about, that
Speaker 1: hasn't been a position where they've put a lot of
Speaker 1: draft draft capital in, at least in the last five
Speaker 1: or six years. So that being said, I thought that
Speaker 1: this was exactly what Green Bay needed to do. The
Speaker 1: positions where they didn't necessarily have a pressing need, but
Speaker 1: they wanted more competition. They got competition at with Eric
Speaker 1: Stokes coming in now from Georgia. Guy, It's so funny.
Speaker 1: For all those years it was always like, oh wow,
Speaker 1: he runs like a four or four two or something
Speaker 1: like that. These guys are getting faster and faster and faster.
Speaker 1: There's just more people now that are breaking sub for
Speaker 1: threes and it's just like all those pictures in Major
Speaker 1: League Baseball. I can throw ninety eight minur now, like
Speaker 1: every team in Major League Baseball has them. Now every
Speaker 1: team in the NFL has these guys that can run
Speaker 1: four three or even sub four three in the forty
Speaker 1: is just the way athletics is going these Yeah, so
Speaker 1: you went you know you had you know Jyry Alexander
Speaker 1: and Darniell Savage, both of those guys were some four
Speaker 1: four guys. Well, now you add Stokes into the equation
Speaker 1: a guy that really I thought came on towards the
Speaker 1: end of his career, uh looked a lot more comfortable,
Speaker 1: but can play a number of positions. I think when
Speaker 1: he comes into green Bay now a secondary that returns
Speaker 1: everybody at this point in time other than Raven Green,
Speaker 1: there is a great opportunity for him to build into
Speaker 1: that battle, whether it be with Kevin King outside, maybe
Speaker 1: they do some shuffling around with the nickel spot. A
Speaker 1: lot of things to figure out there. Josh Meyers getting
Speaker 1: selected in the second round kind of raised my eyebrow
Speaker 1: a little bit because that's the highest the Packers have
Speaker 1: drafted a center in some time. Being able to acquire
Speaker 1: a guy though that also comes from Ohio State that
Speaker 1: also wore number seventy one for Ohio State, I thought
Speaker 1: was a big get for them though. And at six
Speaker 1: ft five Mike, there is some positional versatility there that
Speaker 1: he's not just kind of saddled into one position green
Speaker 1: Bay and again what we will talk about a Mari
Speaker 1: Rodgers at at great length here, but throughout this these
Speaker 1: three days, I just thought that this overall roster came
Speaker 1: out a lot stronger than it was going into it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it the the the Stokes pick is interesting to me
Speaker 1: because we talked a couple of years ago when Brian
Speaker 1: Goodakoints made the big splash and free agency signing the
Speaker 1: Smiths signing Turner, signing Adrian Amos, and he talked about,
Speaker 1: you know, the reason the Packers made the investment they
Speaker 1: did in those players is because they felt those were
Speaker 1: players on the rise. With the arrow pointing up right.
Speaker 1: Eric Stokes is exactly that type of draft pick because
Speaker 1: you look, you look at his college career, it's like
Speaker 1: the speed was there, the cover ability was there. You
Speaker 1: see these stats that he's breaking up a bunch of
Speaker 1: passes and then but he doesn't have any interceptions. Then
Speaker 1: what does he do is last year at Georgia, in
Speaker 1: ten games, only ten games, picks off four passes, returns
Speaker 1: two of them for touchdowns. Suddenly it's like, here's where
Speaker 1: the arrow is pointing up right, and that's the guy
Speaker 1: that Brian Goodacunts wanted to jump on. Now, a lot
Speaker 1: of analysts said you could, you could get Eric Stokes
Speaker 1: in the second round, maybe even late in the second round.
Speaker 1: He was the guy that analysts are saying, well, that
Speaker 1: was like a reach like late in the first round. Well,
Speaker 1: we'll see, because you know, again, it's it's about the projection.
Speaker 1: It's about the crystal ball. It's not about what the
Speaker 1: guy has done, but it's where they project him to
Speaker 1: be headed. And Brian Goodakun sees Eric Stokes as another
Speaker 1: Jairo Alexander type that can be a big time cornerback
Speaker 1: in this league for a long time. Yeah, And sometimes,
Speaker 1: like there is something to be said for if you
Speaker 1: have a guy and he's your guy, to go get
Speaker 1: the guy, to get the player. I love that story
Speaker 1: that Brian Goods told Ted Thompson when they traded back
Speaker 1: into the first round to get Clay Matthews and what
Speaker 1: this is in relation to the trade with the Marie Rogers.
Speaker 1: But you know him saying, I want the player, I
Speaker 1: want the player. It happens that way. Sometimes it's not
Speaker 1: that your overdraft him that that's what the Packers board read.
Speaker 1: He obviously had a first round grade or darn your
Speaker 1: close to it. For green Bay to feel comfortable staying
Speaker 1: there and drafting that guy, and again for the green
Speaker 1: Bay Packers to be able to add to that secondary
Speaker 1: I think is really big. There were a lot of
Speaker 1: strides that they made last year, but there were some
Speaker 1: hiccups along the way too. To me, I looked at
Speaker 1: this draft is sort of a finishing time for this defense. Okay,
Speaker 1: this is We're going to give you a couple more
Speaker 1: pieces here that we feel like we need to instill
Speaker 1: here to be able to make the defense make another stop.
Speaker 1: Because because the rest of the band has been held together,
Speaker 1: there were contract restructures this and that, you know, to
Speaker 1: fit under the salary cap in and to keep the
Speaker 1: unit together. You have a new coordinator now who's going
Speaker 1: to be running things, but for the most part, you're
Speaker 1: gonna have the same cast of characters on the field.
Speaker 1: And to throw Stokes in that room now, he said
Speaker 1: he's watched a lot of Jaire Alexander film, respects his
Speaker 1: game and that who wouldn't exactly. But I mean, but
Speaker 1: that also shows you, Mike, how far this thing has gone.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was only three short years ago that
Speaker 1: Jaire Alexander was the eighteenth overall pick and everybody's kind
Speaker 1: of wondering, Okay, who is this kid? Is he too small?
Speaker 1: Is he is he going to be able to compete
Speaker 1: with receivers at this level? And then here we are
Speaker 1: aged twenty four and the guys arguably the best in
Speaker 1: the game. Now, yeah, well, in the second round, you
Speaker 1: couldn't have almost what could turn out to be the
Speaker 1: most serendipitous pick of of the draft for the Packers.
Speaker 1: The Green Bay loses Corey Linsley in free agency, longtime
Speaker 1: center here drafted out of Ohio State back in the
Speaker 1: fifth round. So here comes Josh Meyers, center from Ohio
Speaker 1: State and lo and behold war number seventy one for
Speaker 1: the buck Eyes, just as Corey Linsley did back in
Speaker 1: his day. Now, I don't know if Josh Myers is
Speaker 1: going to be a starting center for the Green Bay Packers,
Speaker 1: in it sure sounds like he's going to be given
Speaker 1: an opportunity to compete for that job. Obviously, Lucas Patrick
Speaker 1: is in that mix. Patrick can also play are Elton
Speaker 1: Jenkins is in that mix. Jenkins can play anywhere across
Speaker 1: the line. Myers can also play center or guard. And
Speaker 1: you talk, as we mentioned before, about the athletes and
Speaker 1: where things are going. I don't know if we've ever
Speaker 1: talked about a six ft five center guard, but yet
Speaker 1: we're starting to see that more in the NFL now
Speaker 1: to centers and guards are not. They're not the Scottie
Speaker 1: wells Is, you know, the six ft you know, more
Speaker 1: of the squatty like wrestler types. That's not necessarily who's
Speaker 1: playing center and guard in the NFL anymore. No, I
Speaker 1: think I think Seattle was actually the one I want
Speaker 1: to make sure I give the right credit there that
Speaker 1: sort of opened the Pandora's box, the forbidden door, if
Speaker 1: you will, to taller uh centers. I think it was.
Speaker 1: It was a Justin britt Yeah, I think Britt Yeah.
Speaker 1: And he was six six or six five at least,
Speaker 1: and you end up being a very serviceable guy for
Speaker 1: them for a number of years. As I mentioned with Myers,
Speaker 1: what's intriguing about him, There's a couple of things to
Speaker 1: a one. I love the tenacity. I love the fact
Speaker 1: this is this is a guy that got turf toe
Speaker 1: injury in the Big Ten Championship game, kept playing through
Speaker 1: it and again. Turf toe injury is difficult for anybody,
Speaker 1: just asked Davante Adams. But when you're anchoring game after game,
Speaker 1: snap after snap, you're not coming off the field. You're
Speaker 1: at that access point in the offensive line. He felt
Speaker 1: his goal. The reason he chose to go to a
Speaker 1: house states. He wanted to win a national championship. He
Speaker 1: was that close to it. He wasn't going to let
Speaker 1: that take a mouth so probably aggravated it in the semifinals,
Speaker 1: didn't do himself any favors in the National Championship game,
Speaker 1: and ultimately had to have surgery. But to be able
Speaker 1: to push through that, I think says a lot about
Speaker 1: the man. And obviously the Packers felt good enough to
Speaker 1: draft him. They cleared him second round pick. That's a
Speaker 1: big pick to use on a center. But furthermore, you know,
Speaker 1: and we'll talk about this probably on later shows, but
Speaker 1: Green Bay ended up going with three offensive linemen in
Speaker 1: this draft. They took three offensive lineman last draft. You
Speaker 1: don't know when you're gonna get David Botr back. Maybe
Speaker 1: he's back week one time will tell you know. You
Speaker 1: already lost an all Pro center, and you lost a
Speaker 1: really important veteran piece in Lane Taylor, who was a
Speaker 1: starter one into last season. So Green Bay had to
Speaker 1: give themselves options and Mike pound for pound, just looking
Speaker 1: at it on paper, now, I'm not saying it's it's
Speaker 1: the most credential offensive line the green Bay Packers have had,
Speaker 1: but one through ten. Now, there's a lot of investment
Speaker 1: that they've made here and it starts with Myers in
Speaker 1: the second round. Yeah. Absolutely that We'll talk about some
Speaker 1: of the other um draft picks as well, But the
Speaker 1: Packers drafted three offensive linemen in this draft, three in
Speaker 1: the last draft. Three offensive linemen amongst the undrafted rookies.
Speaker 1: That that will be coming into Green Bay as well.
Speaker 1: So that the position competition on the offensive line come
Speaker 1: this summer, in training camp, in the preseason games for
Speaker 1: the roster spots, practice squad playing time, like all that
Speaker 1: is really going to be interesting. I you mentioned, obviously
Speaker 1: the injury with Myers and how he toughed it out
Speaker 1: through the end of the season, and that's actually when
Speaker 1: I wrote the story on him on Friday night, the
Speaker 1: full length story on our website. I kind of focused
Speaker 1: on that. It It's something that struck me in the moment,
Speaker 1: just because in terms of doing all the draft research,
Speaker 1: and not just this year, but over the last couple
Speaker 1: of years, you always hear about these guys that they
Speaker 1: sit out, they sit out their team's bowl game and
Speaker 1: this and that, and I'm not being critical. I mean,
Speaker 1: guys are going to make their make their own decisions
Speaker 1: for what they think is most important for their future.
Speaker 1: And as we went through the COVID season, you had
Speaker 1: a lot of players in college football opted out and
Speaker 1: didn't play. And everybody has their reasons for doing that.
Speaker 1: I get that, but what Myers did just really struck
Speaker 1: me because he knew he was potentially a you know,
Speaker 1: top fifty, top seventy five potential pick in this NFL draft,
Speaker 1: and he kind of put all that aside for his team,
Speaker 1: you know, to try to go for a national championship.
Speaker 1: And when he got hurt in the Big Ten championship game,
Speaker 1: he didn't say, no, that's it, I gotta shut it down.
Speaker 1: I'm getting drafted in a few months, you know, I've
Speaker 1: I've got to get ready to move on. It's like, no,
Speaker 1: that wasn't That wasn't his approach. I just think that
Speaker 1: says a lot about his personality, because not everybody in
Speaker 1: that situation. I don't care if you play for Alabama,
Speaker 1: Clemson or Ohio State or who you play for. Not
Speaker 1: everybody in that situation, with that significant an injury and
Speaker 1: with the draft coming up in just a few months,
Speaker 1: would have would have made that call. And he's a.
Speaker 1: He's a guy that I'm really anxious eager to to
Speaker 1: get to meet and really get a sense of what
Speaker 1: he's like and get to know a little bit more
Speaker 1: about him, because unfortunately, because of that, he didn't test
Speaker 1: at the pro day at Ohio States, so we really
Speaker 1: don't know, you know, benchmarks are those type of things
Speaker 1: where he stands. But but certainly he did talk about,
Speaker 1: you know, he knows Corey Linsley a little bit. Corey
Speaker 1: had a little bit of fun with him on Twitter
Speaker 1: as well, mentioning that you know, obviously that lineage of
Speaker 1: centers at Ohio State, but you could listen to Matt
Speaker 1: MoU Speed, I mean just how highly he spoke of
Speaker 1: that program, the way the develop offensive lineman. They hope
Speaker 1: that Josh Meyers is the next good one coming out
Speaker 1: of the Buckeyes. Yeah. Well, in the third round, the
Speaker 1: Packers get Amari Rodgers, the wide receiver from Clemson. And
Speaker 1: one thing we know about how this went down is
Speaker 1: Brian Gouda Kunst was bound and determined to trade up
Speaker 1: in the third round to get a Mari Rodgers because
Speaker 1: he actually and he doesn't always do this, but Friday evening,
Speaker 1: after the second and third rounds of the draft who
Speaker 1: completed and Brian Gudacunt's addressed the media. He actually said
Speaker 1: in the second round he was choosing between Josh Meyers
Speaker 1: and Marie Rogers. That was the choice he was making.
Speaker 1: At the end of the second round, they chose Myers,
Speaker 1: they bring in the offensive lineman, and then all he
Speaker 1: wanted to do in the third round was find a
Speaker 1: way to trade up and get a Mari Rodgers. He
Speaker 1: did not want to lose this guy, and Um sounded
Speaker 1: like there were a handful of potential trades that fell through.
Speaker 1: Um eventually makes a trade with Tennessee to be able
Speaker 1: to move up seven spots from number ninety two up
Speaker 1: to number eighty five and get the wide receiver from Clemson,
Speaker 1: and uh, this is going to be an interesting piece
Speaker 1: added to Matt Lafleur's very creative offense. Most intriguing prospect.
Speaker 1: I think that Brian Goodcins is drafted to date on
Speaker 1: the offensive side the ball. Now, Packers have had a
Speaker 1: type here for a number of years with the type
Speaker 1: of receivers that they look for. When you look at
Speaker 1: Alan Lazard and Marcus Veldes Scantling, there's a big difference
Speaker 1: between those two guys and between a guy like Randall
Speaker 1: Cobb that obviously had as much success that he had here,
Speaker 1: they've gone bigger, they've gone length here, but this is
Speaker 1: a little bit of a throwback. But as Goodkin said,
Speaker 1: this guy isn't small. He might only be in that
Speaker 1: five five eleven range, but a tuner and twenty pound
Speaker 1: two and twelve pounds carries his body well and has
Speaker 1: some good length to him. But Mike, what did I say?
Speaker 1: I said it an inbox, I said it on this show.
Speaker 1: Everything that I was talking about going into this draft,
Speaker 1: we are going to learn a lot about what the
Speaker 1: Packers commitment is to having that jet sweep, gadget type receiver,
Speaker 1: running back, whatever whatever you want to call them in
Speaker 1: this offense. In a year after they go and take
Speaker 1: Josiah Deguara, who I mean, raise some eyebrows, but you know,
Speaker 1: a multifaceted Swiss army knife type of offensive tool player
Speaker 1: in the third round. This year, in the third round
Speaker 1: they get another one of those guys, although in a
Speaker 1: different form. I'm so excited about Rogers. The more I
Speaker 1: learned about him, the more I hear about him out
Speaker 1: of Clemson. I mean this guy is absolutely beloved. Uh,
Speaker 1: he's an intriguing guy from an athletic standpoint that in
Speaker 1: and of itself, but then when you listen to his
Speaker 1: backstory and who his father is Team Martin national champion
Speaker 1: at Tennessee, you learn about the ways that Clemson used him,
Speaker 1: the team leader that he was. The first two words
Speaker 1: in his bio on Clemson's website consummate professional, sky brings
Speaker 1: it all, And I know he left a really positive
Speaker 1: first impression on the Packers brass and that's why they
Speaker 1: felt comfortable enough to go up and get him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what really struck me about this pick not just the
Speaker 1: trade up and and the stories that Gouda Kuntz told
Speaker 1: afterwards about how determined he was to make that move
Speaker 1: and get this guy, but all leading up to the draft,
Speaker 1: we were hearing about, you know, these speedy slot receiver types.
Speaker 1: In this draft was really deep in those type of guys,
Speaker 1: and there were a whole bunch of them out there
Speaker 1: that you know, we're between the hundred and seventy and
Speaker 1: hundred eighty five pounds, you know, the not just the
Speaker 1: short but smaller guys, and the Packers decided to go
Speaker 1: the route of that type of guy who can who
Speaker 1: can run like that, but as Gouda Kunst himself said,
Speaker 1: is kind of built like a running back at at
Speaker 1: you know, five ten to twelve. And I just think
Speaker 1: that's a that that's an interesting decision on the part
Speaker 1: of the Packers because there were a whole bunch of
Speaker 1: wide receivers taken before Mari Rodgers who are not two
Speaker 1: hundred and twelve pounds, and they were they were the
Speaker 1: not just the shorter but the smaller guys. And um,
Speaker 1: but in terms of you know, playing in the NFC North,
Speaker 1: playing in the cold weather in the wintertime, and then
Speaker 1: the way the Packers want to use, you know, use
Speaker 1: a guy like this in all these different facets of
Speaker 1: the offense, the jet sweeps, the slow even on the outside,
Speaker 1: whatever the role might be. They wanted somebody who's they
Speaker 1: really feel is going to hold up over the course
Speaker 1: of seventeen games, and that's why they went and got
Speaker 1: the five ten guy who's two twelve pounds, not somebody
Speaker 1: who's won seventy five. Yeah, and I just I think
Speaker 1: it's the perfect time for that type of player. I mean,
Speaker 1: with all due respect Tyler Irvin, and also with you know,
Speaker 1: Tivan Austin coming in last season. Both of those guys
Speaker 1: were on the smaller end of that spectrum explosive athletes,
Speaker 1: and I think Irvin had a great run here in
Speaker 1: Green Bay. He obviously is a free agent now, but
Speaker 1: got banged up with the wrist and with the knee
Speaker 1: and whatnot. Then you look at Austin comes in late
Speaker 1: in the season, and it was trying to figure out
Speaker 1: a way to get him in there. I think what
Speaker 1: we learned from that is that the Packers have to
Speaker 1: have a player that is drafted and developed and really
Speaker 1: solidified in that role. Into me, again, this is just
Speaker 1: from the outside looking, but considering there are no other
Speaker 1: body types like him on the roster right now, this
Speaker 1: move screams that. To me, this screams a commit into
Speaker 1: that understanding the dimension that brought to the offense and
Speaker 1: how dynamic that potentially, you know, Rogers could be in
Speaker 1: that role. Yeah, it feels like it feels like there's
Speaker 1: this section of if you know, I know, playbooks these
Speaker 1: days are digital and all that, but if you look
Speaker 1: at you know, the old big binder, you know playbook,
Speaker 1: it feels like there's this section of the of Matt
Speaker 1: Lafleur's playbook that just kind of got a key stuck
Speaker 1: into it and opened up with a guy like this
Speaker 1: coming on board, and we'll see, we'll see where where
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Speaker 1: need twenty four seven three And if I can close
Speaker 1: down that point as well. The other thing I like
Speaker 1: about this move and the fact that you drafted AJ
Speaker 1: Dillon last year too, The doors are wide open on
Speaker 1: Aaron Jones. Now how you want to utilize them? Where
Speaker 1: you want to line him up. They had to have
Speaker 1: him do some of the jet motion stuff late last
Speaker 1: season that really you want to get the ball in
Speaker 1: his hands. You don't want him to be a this direction.
Speaker 1: You have the two back sets. I just I think
Speaker 1: the opportunities are just going to be in the possibilities
Speaker 1: are going to be endless with Aaron Jones. Well, we'll
Speaker 1: spend the bulk of our next show going through Day
Speaker 1: three of the draft, but before we go on this one,
Speaker 1: I just have to ask you, as the biport graduate,
Speaker 1: I need your best I need your best Cole Van
Speaker 1: Landing story. You covered this young gentleman as a high
Speaker 1: school athlete for the bi Port Pirates in multiple sports,
Speaker 1: and the Packers obviously make the make the phone call
Speaker 1: just a ten minute drive up the road to Cole
Speaker 1: Van Landon's house and draft the local boy in the
Speaker 1: sixth round. Um, just quickly your favorite Cole Van Landing
Speaker 1: story and we'll maybe get two more of them on
Speaker 1: our next Yeah. You know what I love about Cole
Speaker 1: Van Landing, and I didn't get a chance to cover
Speaker 1: them as thoroughly as Andrew Pacaric, my former colleague did.
Speaker 1: He did so much great work on coal. But what
Speaker 1: happened was I was in the middle of transitioning over
Speaker 1: to covering Packers, but I was still helping out on
Speaker 1: preps here and their football and especially track and field.
Speaker 1: I would go and cover the track and field meat
Speaker 1: as the number two guy, just because I enjoyed it
Speaker 1: and just because it was an opportunity to still. You know,
Speaker 1: I always like going back to my roots with that stuff.
Speaker 1: And I remember hearing so much about Cole Van Lannon
Speaker 1: and this kid, this sophomore that is just this a
Speaker 1: remarkable athlete and as a really big prospect in football,
Speaker 1: but it's also just a you know, just a complete
Speaker 1: gentle giant. And I had a chance to cover him
Speaker 1: and shot putting disk at the state tournament. And just
Speaker 1: the way he has always carried himself, the way he
Speaker 1: has spoken, even at an early age. Um just knows
Speaker 1: how to handle himself. And I remember talking to people
Speaker 1: at Bayport in that right when he was I mean
Speaker 1: I'm not even talking about when he was an All
Speaker 1: f r C C offensive lineman and he knew he
Speaker 1: was going to Wisconsin. I'm talking even before that, people
Speaker 1: just saying that this kid is gonna be really good
Speaker 1: because he was one of those type of athletes where
Speaker 1: he just had really big pause, like you could see
Speaker 1: this guy is just gonna have this. And he was
Speaker 1: tall from the beginning, and he just had this great
Speaker 1: aimed to build off of. And when you think about
Speaker 1: offensive linemen in the state of Wisconsin, I mean, this
Speaker 1: is what it looks like. Not that maybe Marv can
Speaker 1: put up a picture of Cole Van landing behind me,
Speaker 1: but this is what it looks like. The guy went
Speaker 1: to Wisconsin a two year starter at left tackle. He
Speaker 1: earned every rep that he took. I'm excited to write
Speaker 1: something about him in the next two weeks. I just
Speaker 1: when when we we went on the clock, you know,
Speaker 1: and and it ended up being that, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: we're all getting ready to write our little bulletins and everything,
Speaker 1: and it ends up being Cole Van Land and you're like, wow,
Speaker 1: I mean, it just gives you this recall back to
Speaker 1: those moments. And the last thing I'll say on this Mike,
Speaker 1: I know, we gotta go. But Mike, myself and Pocaric
Speaker 1: we were texting back and forth after the draft, and
Speaker 1: there were so many years Mike where it was just like, hey,
Speaker 1: signing date comes in February. We got anybody that's signing
Speaker 1: a Division one you know, scholarship, Okay, no Division two
Speaker 1: one uh FCS awesome. And there's just been this surge
Speaker 1: over the last you know, five six years with Alekin Old,
Speaker 1: with Cole Van Lannon. I give Drew Noah credit for
Speaker 1: this from to Pier. He's the one that I think
Speaker 1: kind of helped open some doors. Drew vanderlind from Southwest.
Speaker 1: Uh you talked about Max Sharping now a second round
Speaker 1: pick that was out of Southwest that then went to
Speaker 1: Houston Khalil Mackenzie ended up being a really big prospect
Speaker 1: for Tennessee. It is really cool. It is very neat
Speaker 1: to see Northeastern Wisconsin, this this little you know, bio
Speaker 1: dome here finally getting some of that respect at the
Speaker 1: NFL level. Yeah, James Morgan the Eshwabas quarterback as well. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's another guy to another guy to put in that mix. Well,
Speaker 1: we will get to a lot more of Day three
Speaker 1: of the Packers Draft, rounds four through seven on our
Speaker 1: next show, but four now, we'll call it a wrap
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