1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 2 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined by my 3 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:16,760 Speaker 1: trusted colleague Weston hod Kowitz, were coming to you here 4 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 1: from our studios at lambeau Field and West. The two 5 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: thousand twenty one NFL Draft is in the books. It 6 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: was a busy three days here at six Lombardi Avenue. 7 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: There was another story, obviously that dominated a lot of 8 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: the NFL landscape with regard to what is going on 9 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: between the Packers and Aaron Rodgers. And I don't know 10 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: how this is going to work out. What I do 11 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:42,160 Speaker 1: know is this you and I aren't going to solve 12 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: the problem, So we're not going to spend time talking 13 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: about it. Instead, we're going to talk about the Packers 14 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 1: draft from this past weekend. Nine selections in all, one 15 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: trade up. As the Packers had gone into the draft 16 00:00:56,240 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: with ten selections, came out with nine. You did you did? 17 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: You nailed? I? I said they would still get ten. 18 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: I thought there'd be a trade up and a trade back. 19 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: We didn't get the trade back. We got the trade up, 20 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: so they end up with nine. I want to break 21 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:13,759 Speaker 1: this down for today's show. At least into two segments. 22 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: The first two days of the draft, the first three rounds, 23 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: and then we'll move on to day three. The first 24 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 1: couple of days, the Packers get Eric Stokes, the cornerback 25 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: from Georgia, Josh Meyers center from Ohio State, and then 26 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: Amari Rodgers the wide receiver from Clemson. Brian Goudakin's trading 27 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: up seven spots in the third round, surrendering one of 28 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: his fourth round picks in order to get the wide 29 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: receiver from Clemson. What were your thoughts here after the 30 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:41,680 Speaker 1: first two days, because when we went into this, we 31 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: were talking, okay, you know the priority positions offensive line, 32 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: defensive line, cornerback, and then kind of right underneath that 33 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: maybe would be wide receiver. Well, out of those four, 34 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: the Packers came out of the first two days of 35 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: the draft addressing three of those. I think things worked 36 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: out about as well as they could have hoped. Yeah, 37 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: the Packers never draft for need. They always say that 38 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: it's not about needs. But I will say after the 39 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: first five rounds, really they hit on all of them. 40 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: They hit on I think every position that you and 41 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: I talked about, maybe with the exception of inside linebacker, 42 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 1: but as you and I have also talked about, that 43 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: hasn't been a position where they've put a lot of 44 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 1: draft draft capital in, at least in the last five 45 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: or six years. So that being said, I thought that 46 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: this was exactly what Green Bay needed to do. The 47 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:31,239 Speaker 1: positions where they didn't necessarily have a pressing need, but 48 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: they wanted more competition. They got competition at with Eric 49 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 1: Stokes coming in now from Georgia. Guy, It's so funny. 50 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:39,519 Speaker 1: For all those years it was always like, oh wow, 51 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: he runs like a four or four two or something 52 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: like that. These guys are getting faster and faster and faster. 53 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: There's just more people now that are breaking sub for 54 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:50,239 Speaker 1: threes and it's just like all those pictures in Major 55 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 1: League Baseball. I can throw ninety eight minur now, like 56 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: every team in Major League Baseball has them. Now every 57 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 1: team in the NFL has these guys that can run 58 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: four three or even sub four three in the forty 59 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: is just the way athletics is going these Yeah, so 60 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: you went you know you had you know Jyry Alexander 61 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 1: and Darniell Savage, both of those guys were some four 62 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 1: four guys. Well, now you add Stokes into the equation 63 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,519 Speaker 1: a guy that really I thought came on towards the 64 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 1: end of his career, uh looked a lot more comfortable, 65 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: but can play a number of positions. I think when 66 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: he comes into green Bay now a secondary that returns 67 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 1: everybody at this point in time other than Raven Green, 68 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: there is a great opportunity for him to build into 69 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: that battle, whether it be with Kevin King outside, maybe 70 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 1: they do some shuffling around with the nickel spot. A 71 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: lot of things to figure out there. Josh Meyers getting 72 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: selected in the second round kind of raised my eyebrow 73 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: a little bit because that's the highest the Packers have 74 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: drafted a center in some time. Being able to acquire 75 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: a guy though that also comes from Ohio State that 76 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: also wore number seventy one for Ohio State, I thought 77 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: was a big get for them though. And at six 78 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: ft five Mike, there is some positional versatility there that 79 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: he's not just kind of saddled into one position green 80 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: Bay and again what we will talk about a Mari 81 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: Rodgers at at great length here, but throughout this these 82 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: three days, I just thought that this overall roster came 83 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: out a lot stronger than it was going into it. Yeah, 84 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: it the the the Stokes pick is interesting to me 85 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 1: because we talked a couple of years ago when Brian 86 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: Goodakoints made the big splash and free agency signing the 87 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: Smiths signing Turner, signing Adrian Amos, and he talked about, 88 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 1: you know, the reason the Packers made the investment they 89 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: did in those players is because they felt those were 90 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 1: players on the rise. With the arrow pointing up right. 91 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: Eric Stokes is exactly that type of draft pick because 92 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 1: you look, you look at his college career, it's like 93 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: the speed was there, the cover ability was there. You 94 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:48,359 Speaker 1: see these stats that he's breaking up a bunch of 95 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: passes and then but he doesn't have any interceptions. Then 96 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: what does he do is last year at Georgia, in 97 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: ten games, only ten games, picks off four passes, returns 98 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: two of them for touchdowns. Suddenly it's like, here's where 99 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: the arrow is pointing up right, and that's the guy 100 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 1: that Brian Goodacunts wanted to jump on. Now, a lot 101 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 1: of analysts said you could, you could get Eric Stokes 102 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 1: in the second round, maybe even late in the second round. 103 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 1: He was the guy that analysts are saying, well, that 104 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 1: was like a reach like late in the first round. Well, 105 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 1: we'll see, because you know, again, it's it's about the projection. 106 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 1: It's about the crystal ball. It's not about what the 107 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 1: guy has done, but it's where they project him to 108 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: be headed. And Brian Goodakun sees Eric Stokes as another 109 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 1: Jairo Alexander type that can be a big time cornerback 110 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: in this league for a long time. Yeah, And sometimes, 111 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: like there is something to be said for if you 112 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 1: have a guy and he's your guy, to go get 113 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: the guy, to get the player. I love that story 114 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 1: that Brian Goods told Ted Thompson when they traded back 115 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 1: into the first round to get Clay Matthews and what 116 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 1: this is in relation to the trade with the Marie Rogers. 117 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: But you know him saying, I want the player, I 118 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: want the player. It happens that way. Sometimes it's not 119 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: that your overdraft him that that's what the Packers board read. 120 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: He obviously had a first round grade or darn your 121 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: close to it. For green Bay to feel comfortable staying 122 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: there and drafting that guy, and again for the green 123 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 1: Bay Packers to be able to add to that secondary 124 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: I think is really big. There were a lot of 125 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 1: strides that they made last year, but there were some 126 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: hiccups along the way too. To me, I looked at 127 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: this draft is sort of a finishing time for this defense. Okay, 128 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: this is We're going to give you a couple more 129 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: pieces here that we feel like we need to instill 130 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,359 Speaker 1: here to be able to make the defense make another stop. 131 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 1: Because because the rest of the band has been held together, 132 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: there were contract restructures this and that, you know, to 133 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 1: fit under the salary cap in and to keep the 134 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: unit together. You have a new coordinator now who's going 135 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: to be running things, but for the most part, you're 136 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: gonna have the same cast of characters on the field. 137 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: And to throw Stokes in that room now, he said 138 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 1: he's watched a lot of Jaire Alexander film, respects his 139 00:06:54,800 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: game and that who wouldn't exactly. But I mean, but 140 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 1: that also shows you, Mike, how far this thing has gone. 141 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 1: I mean, it was only three short years ago that 142 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: Jaire Alexander was the eighteenth overall pick and everybody's kind 143 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: of wondering, Okay, who is this kid? Is he too small? 144 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 1: Is he is he going to be able to compete 145 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: with receivers at this level? And then here we are 146 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 1: aged twenty four and the guys arguably the best in 147 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: the game. Now, yeah, well, in the second round, you 148 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: couldn't have almost what could turn out to be the 149 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: most serendipitous pick of of the draft for the Packers. 150 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: The Green Bay loses Corey Linsley in free agency, longtime 151 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: center here drafted out of Ohio State back in the 152 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: fifth round. So here comes Josh Meyers, center from Ohio 153 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: State and lo and behold war number seventy one for 154 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: the buck Eyes, just as Corey Linsley did back in 155 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: his day. Now, I don't know if Josh Myers is 156 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: going to be a starting center for the Green Bay Packers, 157 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: in it sure sounds like he's going to be given 158 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: an opportunity to compete for that job. Obviously, Lucas Patrick 159 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: is in that mix. Patrick can also play are Elton 160 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: Jenkins is in that mix. Jenkins can play anywhere across 161 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: the line. Myers can also play center or guard. And 162 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: you talk, as we mentioned before, about the athletes and 163 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: where things are going. I don't know if we've ever 164 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: talked about a six ft five center guard, but yet 165 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: we're starting to see that more in the NFL now 166 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: to centers and guards are not. They're not the Scottie 167 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: wells Is, you know, the six ft you know, more 168 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: of the squatty like wrestler types. That's not necessarily who's 169 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: playing center and guard in the NFL anymore. No, I 170 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: think I think Seattle was actually the one I want 171 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,599 Speaker 1: to make sure I give the right credit there that 172 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 1: sort of opened the Pandora's box, the forbidden door, if 173 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 1: you will, to taller uh centers. I think it was. 174 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,199 Speaker 1: It was a Justin britt Yeah, I think Britt Yeah. 175 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 1: And he was six six or six five at least, 176 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:50,679 Speaker 1: and you end up being a very serviceable guy for 177 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: them for a number of years. As I mentioned with Myers, 178 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: what's intriguing about him, There's a couple of things to 179 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 1: a one. I love the tenacity. I love the fact 180 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: this is this is a guy that got turf toe 181 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: injury in the Big Ten Championship game, kept playing through 182 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 1: it and again. Turf toe injury is difficult for anybody, 183 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:10,559 Speaker 1: just asked Davante Adams. But when you're anchoring game after game, 184 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: snap after snap, you're not coming off the field. You're 185 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:16,559 Speaker 1: at that access point in the offensive line. He felt 186 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: his goal. The reason he chose to go to a 187 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: house states. He wanted to win a national championship. He 188 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: was that close to it. He wasn't going to let 189 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: that take a mouth so probably aggravated it in the semifinals, 190 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 1: didn't do himself any favors in the National Championship game, 191 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: and ultimately had to have surgery. But to be able 192 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: to push through that, I think says a lot about 193 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:36,079 Speaker 1: the man. And obviously the Packers felt good enough to 194 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:38,079 Speaker 1: draft him. They cleared him second round pick. That's a 195 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:42,559 Speaker 1: big pick to use on a center. But furthermore, you know, 196 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 1: and we'll talk about this probably on later shows, but 197 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:47,599 Speaker 1: Green Bay ended up going with three offensive linemen in 198 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: this draft. They took three offensive lineman last draft. You 199 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: don't know when you're gonna get David Botr back. Maybe 200 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: he's back week one time will tell you know. You 201 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: already lost an all Pro center, and you lost a 202 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: really important veteran piece in Lane Taylor, who was a 203 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: starter one into last season. So Green Bay had to 204 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: give themselves options and Mike pound for pound, just looking 205 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: at it on paper, now, I'm not saying it's it's 206 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: the most credential offensive line the green Bay Packers have had, 207 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: but one through ten. Now, there's a lot of investment 208 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: that they've made here and it starts with Myers in 209 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 1: the second round. Yeah. Absolutely that We'll talk about some 210 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: of the other um draft picks as well, But the 211 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: Packers drafted three offensive linemen in this draft, three in 212 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: the last draft. Three offensive linemen amongst the undrafted rookies. 213 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 1: That that will be coming into Green Bay as well. 214 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:38,319 Speaker 1: So that the position competition on the offensive line come 215 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: this summer, in training camp, in the preseason games for 216 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 1: the roster spots, practice squad playing time, like all that 217 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: is really going to be interesting. I you mentioned, obviously 218 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 1: the injury with Myers and how he toughed it out 219 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: through the end of the season, and that's actually when 220 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: I wrote the story on him on Friday night, the 221 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:00,679 Speaker 1: full length story on our website. I kind of focused 222 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: on that. It It's something that struck me in the moment, 223 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: just because in terms of doing all the draft research, 224 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 1: and not just this year, but over the last couple 225 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: of years, you always hear about these guys that they 226 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,079 Speaker 1: sit out, they sit out their team's bowl game and 227 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:17,079 Speaker 1: this and that, and I'm not being critical. I mean, 228 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,359 Speaker 1: guys are going to make their make their own decisions 229 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 1: for what they think is most important for their future. 230 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 1: And as we went through the COVID season, you had 231 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: a lot of players in college football opted out and 232 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: didn't play. And everybody has their reasons for doing that. 233 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: I get that, but what Myers did just really struck 234 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: me because he knew he was potentially a you know, 235 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 1: top fifty, top seventy five potential pick in this NFL draft, 236 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 1: and he kind of put all that aside for his team, 237 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: you know, to try to go for a national championship. 238 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: And when he got hurt in the Big Ten championship game, 239 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: he didn't say, no, that's it, I gotta shut it down. 240 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: I'm getting drafted in a few months, you know, I've 241 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 1: I've got to get ready to move on. It's like, no, 242 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 1: that wasn't That wasn't his approach. I just think that 243 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: says a lot about his personality, because not everybody in 244 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: that situation. I don't care if you play for Alabama, 245 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 1: Clemson or Ohio State or who you play for. Not 246 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 1: everybody in that situation, with that significant an injury and 247 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: with the draft coming up in just a few months, 248 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 1: would have would have made that call. And he's a. 249 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: He's a guy that I'm really anxious eager to to 250 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: get to meet and really get a sense of what 251 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: he's like and get to know a little bit more 252 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: about him, because unfortunately, because of that, he didn't test 253 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: at the pro day at Ohio States, so we really 254 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 1: don't know, you know, benchmarks are those type of things 255 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: where he stands. But but certainly he did talk about, 256 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 1: you know, he knows Corey Linsley a little bit. Corey 257 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: had a little bit of fun with him on Twitter 258 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 1: as well, mentioning that you know, obviously that lineage of 259 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: centers at Ohio State, but you could listen to Matt 260 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: MoU Speed, I mean just how highly he spoke of 261 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 1: that program, the way the develop offensive lineman. They hope 262 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: that Josh Meyers is the next good one coming out 263 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 1: of the Buckeyes. Yeah. Well, in the third round, the 264 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: Packers get Amari Rodgers, the wide receiver from Clemson. And 265 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 1: one thing we know about how this went down is 266 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 1: Brian Gouda Kunst was bound and determined to trade up 267 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: in the third round to get a Mari Rodgers because 268 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 1: he actually and he doesn't always do this, but Friday evening, 269 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:13,439 Speaker 1: after the second and third rounds of the draft who 270 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: completed and Brian Gudacunt's addressed the media. He actually said 271 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: in the second round he was choosing between Josh Meyers 272 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 1: and Marie Rogers. That was the choice he was making. 273 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 1: At the end of the second round, they chose Myers, 274 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: they bring in the offensive lineman, and then all he 275 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: wanted to do in the third round was find a 276 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 1: way to trade up and get a Mari Rodgers. He 277 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: did not want to lose this guy, and Um sounded 278 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:41,319 Speaker 1: like there were a handful of potential trades that fell through. 279 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 1: Um eventually makes a trade with Tennessee to be able 280 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: to move up seven spots from number ninety two up 281 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 1: to number eighty five and get the wide receiver from Clemson, 282 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: and uh, this is going to be an interesting piece 283 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: added to Matt Lafleur's very creative offense. Most intriguing prospect. 284 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: I think that Brian Goodcins is drafted to date on 285 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 1: the offensive side the ball. Now, Packers have had a 286 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 1: type here for a number of years with the type 287 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 1: of receivers that they look for. When you look at 288 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: Alan Lazard and Marcus Veldes Scantling, there's a big difference 289 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 1: between those two guys and between a guy like Randall 290 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 1: Cobb that obviously had as much success that he had here, 291 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: they've gone bigger, they've gone length here, but this is 292 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: a little bit of a throwback. But as Goodkin said, 293 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: this guy isn't small. He might only be in that 294 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 1: five five eleven range, but a tuner and twenty pound 295 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: two and twelve pounds carries his body well and has 296 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 1: some good length to him. But Mike, what did I say? 297 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: I said it an inbox, I said it on this show. 298 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 1: Everything that I was talking about going into this draft, 299 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: we are going to learn a lot about what the 300 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: Packers commitment is to having that jet sweep, gadget type receiver, 301 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: running back, whatever whatever you want to call them in 302 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 1: this offense. In a year after they go and take 303 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 1: Josiah Deguara, who I mean, raise some eyebrows, but you know, 304 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: a multifaceted Swiss army knife type of offensive tool player 305 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: in the third round. This year, in the third round 306 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: they get another one of those guys, although in a 307 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 1: different form. I'm so excited about Rogers. The more I 308 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: learned about him, the more I hear about him out 309 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 1: of Clemson. I mean this guy is absolutely beloved. Uh, 310 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 1: he's an intriguing guy from an athletic standpoint that in 311 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: and of itself, but then when you listen to his 312 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: backstory and who his father is Team Martin national champion 313 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: at Tennessee, you learn about the ways that Clemson used him, 314 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: the team leader that he was. The first two words 315 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 1: in his bio on Clemson's website consummate professional, sky brings 316 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: it all, And I know he left a really positive 317 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: first impression on the Packers brass and that's why they 318 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 1: felt comfortable enough to go up and get him. Yeah, 319 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: what really struck me about this pick not just the 320 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: trade up and and the stories that Gouda Kuntz told 321 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: afterwards about how determined he was to make that move 322 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: and get this guy, but all leading up to the draft, 323 00:15:55,960 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: we were hearing about, you know, these speedy slot receiver types. 324 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 1: In this draft was really deep in those type of guys, 325 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: and there were a whole bunch of them out there 326 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: that you know, we're between the hundred and seventy and 327 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: hundred eighty five pounds, you know, the not just the 328 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: short but smaller guys, and the Packers decided to go 329 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: the route of that type of guy who can who 330 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: can run like that, but as Gouda Kunst himself said, 331 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: is kind of built like a running back at at 332 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 1: you know, five ten to twelve. And I just think 333 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: that's a that that's an interesting decision on the part 334 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: of the Packers because there were a whole bunch of 335 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: wide receivers taken before Mari Rodgers who are not two 336 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: hundred and twelve pounds, and they were they were the 337 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: not just the shorter but the smaller guys. And um, 338 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: but in terms of you know, playing in the NFC North, 339 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 1: playing in the cold weather in the wintertime, and then 340 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: the way the Packers want to use, you know, use 341 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: a guy like this in all these different facets of 342 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 1: the offense, the jet sweeps, the slow even on the outside, 343 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 1: whatever the role might be. They wanted somebody who's they 344 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: really feel is going to hold up over the course 345 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: of seventeen games, and that's why they went and got 346 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:13,439 Speaker 1: the five ten guy who's two twelve pounds, not somebody 347 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 1: who's won seventy five. Yeah, and I just I think 348 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: it's the perfect time for that type of player. I mean, 349 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 1: with all due respect Tyler Irvin, and also with you know, 350 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: Tivan Austin coming in last season. Both of those guys 351 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: were on the smaller end of that spectrum explosive athletes, 352 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 1: and I think Irvin had a great run here in 353 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: Green Bay. He obviously is a free agent now, but 354 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 1: got banged up with the wrist and with the knee 355 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: and whatnot. Then you look at Austin comes in late 356 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: in the season, and it was trying to figure out 357 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:42,919 Speaker 1: a way to get him in there. I think what 358 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 1: we learned from that is that the Packers have to 359 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 1: have a player that is drafted and developed and really 360 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: solidified in that role. Into me, again, this is just 361 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: from the outside looking, but considering there are no other 362 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: body types like him on the roster right now, this 363 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: move screams that. To me, this screams a commit into 364 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:03,199 Speaker 1: that understanding the dimension that brought to the offense and 365 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:06,719 Speaker 1: how dynamic that potentially, you know, Rogers could be in 366 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 1: that role. Yeah, it feels like it feels like there's 367 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:12,159 Speaker 1: this section of if you know, I know, playbooks these 368 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: days are digital and all that, but if you look 369 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 1: at you know, the old big binder, you know playbook, 370 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 1: it feels like there's this section of the of Matt 371 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:23,439 Speaker 1: Lafleur's playbook that just kind of got a key stuck 372 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:25,679 Speaker 1: into it and opened up with a guy like this 373 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 1: coming on board, and we'll see, we'll see where where 374 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,640 Speaker 1: things go from there. Quickly, the West before I forget serious, 375 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 1: x M NFL Radio delivers hard hitting analysis and up 376 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 1: to them in AE NFL News that true football fanatics 377 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 1: need twenty four seven three And if I can close 378 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:44,719 Speaker 1: down that point as well. The other thing I like 379 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 1: about this move and the fact that you drafted AJ 380 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: Dillon last year too, The doors are wide open on 381 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 1: Aaron Jones. Now how you want to utilize them? Where 382 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 1: you want to line him up. They had to have 383 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:56,880 Speaker 1: him do some of the jet motion stuff late last 384 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: season that really you want to get the ball in 385 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 1: his hands. You don't want him to be a this direction. 386 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 1: You have the two back sets. I just I think 387 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 1: the opportunities are just going to be in the possibilities 388 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,880 Speaker 1: are going to be endless with Aaron Jones. Well, we'll 389 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 1: spend the bulk of our next show going through Day 390 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:14,719 Speaker 1: three of the draft, but before we go on this one, 391 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 1: I just have to ask you, as the biport graduate, 392 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: I need your best I need your best Cole Van 393 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:24,400 Speaker 1: Landing story. You covered this young gentleman as a high 394 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: school athlete for the bi Port Pirates in multiple sports, 395 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 1: and the Packers obviously make the make the phone call 396 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: just a ten minute drive up the road to Cole 397 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 1: Van Landon's house and draft the local boy in the 398 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:44,120 Speaker 1: sixth round. Um, just quickly your favorite Cole Van Landing 399 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 1: story and we'll maybe get two more of them on 400 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: our next Yeah. You know what I love about Cole 401 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 1: Van Landing, and I didn't get a chance to cover 402 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: them as thoroughly as Andrew Pacaric, my former colleague did. 403 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,159 Speaker 1: He did so much great work on coal. But what 404 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 1: happened was I was in the middle of transitioning over 405 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: to covering Packers, but I was still helping out on 406 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 1: preps here and their football and especially track and field. 407 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: I would go and cover the track and field meat 408 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 1: as the number two guy, just because I enjoyed it 409 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:09,679 Speaker 1: and just because it was an opportunity to still. You know, 410 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 1: I always like going back to my roots with that stuff. 411 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: And I remember hearing so much about Cole Van Lannon 412 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:18,159 Speaker 1: and this kid, this sophomore that is just this a 413 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: remarkable athlete and as a really big prospect in football, 414 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: but it's also just a you know, just a complete 415 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 1: gentle giant. And I had a chance to cover him 416 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:31,239 Speaker 1: and shot putting disk at the state tournament. And just 417 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 1: the way he has always carried himself, the way he 418 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 1: has spoken, even at an early age. Um just knows 419 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:39,640 Speaker 1: how to handle himself. And I remember talking to people 420 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 1: at Bayport in that right when he was I mean 421 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 1: I'm not even talking about when he was an All 422 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 1: f r C C offensive lineman and he knew he 423 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: was going to Wisconsin. I'm talking even before that, people 424 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 1: just saying that this kid is gonna be really good 425 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: because he was one of those type of athletes where 426 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 1: he just had really big pause, like you could see 427 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:56,879 Speaker 1: this guy is just gonna have this. And he was 428 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: tall from the beginning, and he just had this great 429 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,160 Speaker 1: aimed to build off of. And when you think about 430 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 1: offensive linemen in the state of Wisconsin, I mean, this 431 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 1: is what it looks like. Not that maybe Marv can 432 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: put up a picture of Cole Van landing behind me, 433 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 1: but this is what it looks like. The guy went 434 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 1: to Wisconsin a two year starter at left tackle. He 435 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 1: earned every rep that he took. I'm excited to write 436 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 1: something about him in the next two weeks. I just 437 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:21,159 Speaker 1: when when we we went on the clock, you know, 438 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 1: and and it ended up being that, uh, you know, 439 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: we're all getting ready to write our little bulletins and everything, 440 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 1: and it ends up being Cole Van Land and you're like, wow, 441 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 1: I mean, it just gives you this recall back to 442 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: those moments. And the last thing I'll say on this Mike, 443 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:37,120 Speaker 1: I know, we gotta go. But Mike, myself and Pocaric 444 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: we were texting back and forth after the draft, and 445 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: there were so many years Mike where it was just like, hey, 446 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 1: signing date comes in February. We got anybody that's signing 447 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: a Division one you know, scholarship, Okay, no Division two 448 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: one uh FCS awesome. And there's just been this surge 449 00:21:56,760 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 1: over the last you know, five six years with Alekin Old, 450 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,919 Speaker 1: with Cole Van Lannon. I give Drew Noah credit for 451 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: this from to Pier. He's the one that I think 452 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: kind of helped open some doors. Drew vanderlind from Southwest. 453 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 1: Uh you talked about Max Sharping now a second round 454 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 1: pick that was out of Southwest that then went to 455 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 1: Houston Khalil Mackenzie ended up being a really big prospect 456 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,640 Speaker 1: for Tennessee. It is really cool. It is very neat 457 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:25,479 Speaker 1: to see Northeastern Wisconsin, this this little you know, bio 458 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 1: dome here finally getting some of that respect at the 459 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 1: NFL level. Yeah, James Morgan the Eshwabas quarterback as well. Yeah, 460 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,880 Speaker 1: that's another guy to another guy to put in that mix. Well, 461 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: we will get to a lot more of Day three 462 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: of the Packers Draft, rounds four through seven on our 463 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: next show, but four now, we'll call it a wrap 464 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,160 Speaker 1: on this edition of Packers on Script, and we should 465 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: have follow all of our coverage of the team. Everything 466 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 1: you need to know about the Packers draft is on 467 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: Packers dot com for West I Am Mike. Thank you 468 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 1: for tuning in, everybody, See you next time.