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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to School Stories, presented by three M, the official

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<v Speaker 2>science partner of the Minnesota Vikings. Tonight, we're joined by

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<v Speaker 2>former Vikings head coach Mike Tye.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks again for tuning into another episode of School Stories.

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<v Speaker 3>Tonight's guest was a key Viking both on the field

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<v Speaker 3>and in the locker room. As a larger than much

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<v Speaker 3>larger than life, trust me personality and clutch performer, he

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<v Speaker 3>was a Viking through and through. Please enjoy tonight's conversation

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<v Speaker 3>with former Vikings tight end and head coach Mike Tye.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Mike, welcome to the show. It's great to hear

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<v Speaker 2>from you. It was great to literally bump into you

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<v Speaker 2>at the US Bank Stadium in the course of the

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<v Speaker 2>Vikings win over Atlanta last Sunday. Give the fans a

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<v Speaker 2>chance to catch up with what you're up to these days,

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<v Speaker 2>and where you're living and how you're occupying your life.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I'll tell you Mark, it's good to hear your voice.

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<v Speaker 4>And it was great to see you and Pete yesterday or

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<v Speaker 4>this week of the game. And I retired from coaching

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<v Speaker 4>after the seventeenth season. I was with the Raiders and

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<v Speaker 4>moved up to our home in Seattle that we've had

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<v Speaker 4>for almost thirty years. And then Mama decided the kids

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<v Speaker 4>got pregnant, and Mama decided we're going to go move

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<v Speaker 4>to where the kids are. So we sold our house

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<v Speaker 4>and we moved to Saint Louis and we moved to

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<v Speaker 4>Las Vegas, if you can believe that, and not a

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<v Speaker 4>real good spot if you're a pony player to beous. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>And we run a foundation. Diane and I and our

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<v Speaker 4>family run a foundation. We have no paid employees. We

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<v Speaker 4>give out the last two years over one hundred and

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<v Speaker 4>sixty thousand dollars to charities in five states. And in fact,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm in Minneapolis right now at the new Horizon Academy

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<v Speaker 4>down on North penn and we're going to give out

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<v Speaker 4>a hundred Winter Coach in a couple of minutes here,

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<v Speaker 4>and we're pretty excited about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, not giving out many of those out in Vegas

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<v Speaker 3>are you.

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<v Speaker 4>No, No, you need sunscreen.

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<v Speaker 5>We get out.

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<v Speaker 3>He's speaking, you know, speaking of speaking of the kids,

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<v Speaker 3>and I wanted to talk to you about this quickly.

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<v Speaker 3>Was I got a chance to see Nate at training

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<v Speaker 3>camp this year. Uh, he's still involved, and I think

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<v Speaker 3>he's involved in a great way on the media side.

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<v Speaker 3>But he does a lot of great stuff on the

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<v Speaker 3>internet with watching film and I think he just talks

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<v Speaker 3>about the game in a different way. And you have

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<v Speaker 3>to be very proud of him and kind of just

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<v Speaker 3>let the fans know where they can find him.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Nate's do a great job. We're really excited, Diane

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<v Speaker 4>and I are excited that he got out of coaching

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<v Speaker 4>and started this media career. He works for Yahoo Sports now.

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<v Speaker 4>He worked a couple of years and did a podcast

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<v Speaker 4>for The Athletic, which of course is owned by the

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<v Speaker 4>New York Times. Now and last year he actually hired

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<v Speaker 4>Nate Barrelson's agent, and he got out of that contract

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<v Speaker 4>and he moved over to the Yahoo Sports. He also

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<v Speaker 4>signed a deal. He's been on the NFL network in

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<v Speaker 4>the morning Good Morning Football a couple of times, and

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<v Speaker 4>I'm really excited. I'm excited for him because he got

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<v Speaker 4>out of coaching. But he's worn all the hats, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>he's been a scout, he's been a great assistant, he's

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<v Speaker 4>been a quarterback coach for the Raiders, and then he

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<v Speaker 4>went and opened up a state farm agency and I

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<v Speaker 4>just was dian. I were praying he didn't get into coaching.

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<v Speaker 5>Again, because you know, all that moving you do, and.

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<v Speaker 4>It's hard to make a great life. I was just

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<v Speaker 4>blessed to be in Minnesota for thirteen years. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>not a lot of people can say that. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>so yeah, we're proud of them, and we're proud of

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<v Speaker 4>my daughter. And I have two grandkids now I have

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<v Speaker 4>another one on the way. Man.

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<v Speaker 5>Wow, that's awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Mike, I, first of all, number one, I appreciate

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<v Speaker 2>you letting me use your parking space at Bunnies all

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<v Speaker 2>these time other time, because it's really been a pleasure

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<v Speaker 2>to be there. But you know, all kidding aside, you

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<v Speaker 2>talk about all the stops you've made as a coach,

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<v Speaker 2>what is it about the Twin City area, Minneapolis, what

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<v Speaker 2>you're doing today that kind of keeps you drawn back

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<v Speaker 2>to this the Twin City area as a coach of

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<v Speaker 2>a player and everything else that you've done well.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just like you know, being able to tease Pete

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<v Speaker 4>in the booth yesterday and see you.

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<v Speaker 5>It's the people of people.

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<v Speaker 4>It's the people at Minneapolis, and you know they don't

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<v Speaker 4>say Minnesota nice for no reason. There's a reason behind it.

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<v Speaker 4>Because the people in this community is the reason why, Diane,

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<v Speaker 4>I have so many friends here, so many deer friends here,

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<v Speaker 4>and it makes you keep coming back. I wish, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>we probably should come back more. But it's been a

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<v Speaker 4>couple of years of transition after retiring, and I think

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<v Speaker 4>we've carved our niche now, so we've kind of got

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<v Speaker 4>to figure it out.

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<v Speaker 3>I think, hey, Mike, talk about the talk about the

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<v Speaker 3>game today, and I've thought about you. I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>how many just over the last couple of years, with

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<v Speaker 3>mainly with offensive line, because I think I still believe

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<v Speaker 3>you're one of, not the best offensive line coaches I've

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<v Speaker 3>ever been around. And thank you for all those long

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<v Speaker 3>staff meetings where I learned just a ton about football.

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<v Speaker 3>And Mike made this a point where yeah, you made

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<v Speaker 3>us you made the offense it through the defense and

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<v Speaker 3>vice versa. But you were absolutely correct when you said

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<v Speaker 3>this is you know, This is how you learn the game.

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<v Speaker 3>This is uh, you know, learning what the offense is

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<v Speaker 3>looking at and went the defenses and and I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 3>be able to do what I do now if it

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't for coaching, and definitely for being with you in

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<v Speaker 3>the in what you demanded out of all of us,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's to know everything, right is to learn as

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<v Speaker 3>much as you can. And I'm just saying thank you,

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<v Speaker 3>and I appreciate that very much.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you know, Pete, You know, Pete, I loved having

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<v Speaker 4>you around and it was it was really a pleasure

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<v Speaker 4>for me to be able to develop some young former

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<v Speaker 4>players into great coaches and uh and you you know

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<v Speaker 4>you could have had a career in coaching them. Thankful

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<v Speaker 4>that you didn't, because you don't want to keep moving.

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<v Speaker 4>You don't want to keep you don't want to keep moving,

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<v Speaker 4>believe me. And so you know, I just I've always

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<v Speaker 4>learned you need to be a student of the game.

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<v Speaker 4>And no matter what you do, no matter what you're

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<v Speaker 4>gonna you want to do with your life, you've got

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<v Speaker 4>to be a student game. You got to learn as

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<v Speaker 4>much about what your job is as you can. And

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<v Speaker 4>and that's why I was probably a little more demanding

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<v Speaker 4>than than other coaches. We we we did meet a lot.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, we had all good coaches and a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of our coaches could wear multiple hats, which was nice.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember Ron Rivera talking to him after the last

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<v Speaker 3>game of the year in two thousand and five and

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<v Speaker 3>him telling telling me before the game that we've we

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<v Speaker 3>did more with less than anybody in the league, and

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<v Speaker 3>we have a winning record. Uh to finish the season

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<v Speaker 3>with them with a winning record, and but still the

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<v Speaker 3>ability to be with guys like Greg Beekert and and

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<v Speaker 3>some of those other some of the other uh, you

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<v Speaker 3>know linebackers that we bet Chris Claiborne, and yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>mean we we had We had a lot of fun though,

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<v Speaker 3>didn't we.

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<v Speaker 4>It was my god, yeah, yeah, so you know it

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<v Speaker 4>was it was just a let's laud ourselves a little

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<v Speaker 4>bit here. We went into Green Bay and won a

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<v Speaker 4>playoff game in Green Bay. I don't think any other

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<v Speaker 4>head coach.

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<v Speaker 5>No, I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 3>Mike, talking about offensive line play in the league, what

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<v Speaker 3>do you think the status is of offensive line play?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, and you mentioned something and you were talking

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<v Speaker 3>about your brother John, who you know. I hope he's

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<v Speaker 3>doing well too. But John always had guys that played

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<v Speaker 3>really well, but none of them were high draft picks.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I'm looking back at our offensive line, like

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<v Speaker 3>Chris Lewinsky, Mike Rosenthal, Corey Withrow. I mean, you turned

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of late round draft picks into very very

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<v Speaker 3>good starters. Can you mold these guys like this anymore?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you have enough time? Is there not enough practice

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<v Speaker 3>with pads anymore? I mean, what do you think of

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<v Speaker 3>all this?

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<v Speaker 4>And I think that's a great question, Pete. I think

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<v Speaker 4>that tribute to that for the ability to develop these

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<v Speaker 4>young players was because of Denny Green. Because Denny Green

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<v Speaker 4>always told me we're not going to give you the

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<v Speaker 4>high pick, because you know, we had a couple of

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<v Speaker 4>high picks before I got there, Corey Stringer gotta bless him,

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<v Speaker 4>and Todd Stucey, and of course Randall was a teammates

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<v Speaker 4>with Randall, But because we had other voids defensively and

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<v Speaker 4>at other positions, we never drafted a high offensive lineman.

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<v Speaker 4>So what he said, I'm going to give you a

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<v Speaker 4>seven of un pick. I'll give you any round pick.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll give you a sixth round pick. And then he

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<v Speaker 4>sent me on the road. And go try to find

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<v Speaker 4>what chuck, here's another chuck nuts to go find a ruby,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, dust it off, polish it up, and turned

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<v Speaker 4>that little piece of stone into a ruby. And so

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<v Speaker 4>we because of Danny Green allowed me the time to develop,

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<v Speaker 4>and he would give me three years on a guy,

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<v Speaker 4>and so if the guy wasn't starting in three years,

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<v Speaker 4>he had run him out the door. And so we

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<v Speaker 4>didn't run a lot of guys out the door. We

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<v Speaker 4>developed guys and we were able to play back. I

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<v Speaker 4>think one of my greatest coaching jobs was Matt Burke.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, the guy we drafted from Harvard in the

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<v Speaker 4>sixth round, left tackle at Harvard, and Frankie Gilliam pointed

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<v Speaker 4>him out. God bless Frankie. Two is He pointed him

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<v Speaker 4>out to me on film and he said, listen, this

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<v Speaker 4>kid played in the East West shrink game. You should go.

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<v Speaker 4>You should go work this kid out. But he's not

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<v Speaker 4>a left tackle. And we brought him in and he

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<v Speaker 4>was so smart. He swung at a lot of positions.

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<v Speaker 4>And then his third year, Denny said, let's let's get

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<v Speaker 4>rid of this center and let's move Matt to center.

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<v Speaker 4>And we're over scrimmage and remember we used to scrimmage

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<v Speaker 4>over the Chiefs over and Wisconsin, and and Denny turned

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<v Speaker 4>to me and said, let's do it right now and

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<v Speaker 4>one on ones. And so we did it one on ones.

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<v Speaker 4>He locked down every single guy he blocked, and we

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<v Speaker 4>looked at each other and kind of smiled Denny and

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<v Speaker 4>I and it's like, Okay, there's our new future center.

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<v Speaker 4>Of course, Matt Burke made a couple of Pro Bowls

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<v Speaker 4>and had a great career.

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<v Speaker 2>One other, I guess you want to Yeah, absolutely. Brian

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<v Speaker 2>McKinney was on our school Stories and he talked very

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<v Speaker 2>highly of the work that you did with him, and

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<v Speaker 2>what your recollections of working with Brian McKinney all those years.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, he was the highest pick we drafted an Olne.

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<v Speaker 4>When I was the head coach, there was a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of conversation about him. I always took advice from Scott

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<v Speaker 4>Studwell in the draft room because Scott, you know, had

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<v Speaker 4>a great feel for talent. So what what we were

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<v Speaker 4>torn between a couple of players in that draft, We've

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<v Speaker 4>got We got McKinney, and about a really good relationship

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<v Speaker 4>with his mom. So at any time that he would

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<v Speaker 4>annoy me, I told him. I was calling his mom

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<v Speaker 4>and he shaped up, so asked him about that next

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<v Speaker 4>thing the best.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we saw that with Aaron Jones and his mom.

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<v Speaker 3>His mom basically told him how they should have taken

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<v Speaker 3>you out of the game for fumbling last week.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and what happened this week didn't fumble? How about that?

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<v Speaker 4>Well? I heard I saw an interview with Lama Jacks's mother,

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<v Speaker 4>Yell and from not running the ball to them.

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<v Speaker 2>Watching watching Kevin O'Connell right now, what he's doing with

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<v Speaker 2>this team and his relationship with his players at his

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<v Speaker 2>young age. What are your thoughts about koc and developing

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<v Speaker 2>a team that was only supposed to win six games

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<v Speaker 2>this year?

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<v Speaker 4>I love him. I'm a big fan. I text him

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<v Speaker 4>every week good luck and congratulations and a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>congratulations of you know, the last six weeks. And he's

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<v Speaker 4>doing a great job. He's doing a tremendous job. He's

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<v Speaker 4>put together an excellent staff. These kids believe in his message,

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<v Speaker 4>and they're playing hard for him, and they're playing smart

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<v Speaker 4>for him, and uh, you know, he's a fabulous job.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm a big fan.

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<v Speaker 3>And and how about Brian Flores? Do you know anything

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<v Speaker 3>about him? It's I think he's doing a great job.

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<v Speaker 3>A couple of years ago, I thought he should have

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<v Speaker 3>been up for a head job. He got ahead job,

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<v Speaker 3>it didn't work out, and I think his turn is

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<v Speaker 3>going to come. So they're telling me to wrap up

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<v Speaker 3>over here, and they give out some coats. Sure, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry boy, that's all right.

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<v Speaker 4>We can do this. The kids come first. I love

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<v Speaker 4>you guys, but the kids come fast. We can do this,

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<v Speaker 4>we can. We can do this again though. If you

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<v Speaker 4>want to.

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<v Speaker 3>Sometime, absolutely well, well we'll make sure that West he's

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<v Speaker 3>all over you. Yeah, your your guide, your your Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>your your game day guide.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely well, listen, listen. I we appreciate the time you

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<v Speaker 2>had for us today. It's great to catch up.

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<v Speaker 4>Ye storry to cut your short, but I got kids

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<v Speaker 4>waiting on these coats.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, thanks again to Mike Tys for joining the show today.

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<v Speaker 2>We always loved catching up with the very colorful Mike Tyson.

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<v Speaker 2>I do have that spot at Bunnies, all said all

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<v Speaker 2>the time I come on beat me.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, here's the thing is, I played with Mike too.

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<v Speaker 3>I know you did, right. They brought him back. I

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<v Speaker 3>mean when I was while I was playing and Denny

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<v Speaker 3>would do that. Denny would always want to bring back

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<v Speaker 3>a familiar face and stay of somebody that the locker

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<v Speaker 3>room didn't know. So I got to play with Chris Dolman,

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<v Speaker 3>Mike Tice, Steve Jordan, right, I mean there were some

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<v Speaker 3>there's some guys whose flags are hanging up and that

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<v Speaker 3>I had the chance to play with for a short time.

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<v Speaker 2>Pretty amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, that's one of my favorite stories. When I

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<v Speaker 3>was on IR, Denny brought me up and said, you

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<v Speaker 3>bring it bringing Chris Dolman back.

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<v Speaker 5>I need your number home. I'm like, are you asking me?

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<v Speaker 5>You're telling me? He's like, I'm telling you, all right,

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<v Speaker 5>Coach sale Well.

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<v Speaker 2>Recapping last week, as we know, the Vikings extended the

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<v Speaker 2>winning streak to six forty two to twenty one thumping

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<v Speaker 2>of the Atlanta Falcons. After Atlanta took the opening kickoff,

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<v Speaker 2>went right down the field, made it look really easy.

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<v Speaker 2>They're thinking, this is going to be another nail bier.

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<v Speaker 2>We're so used to it, and the Vikings have been

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<v Speaker 2>really good at it, winning those close games in the

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<v Speaker 2>fourth quarter. But for once they did not have to

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<v Speaker 2>sweat it out as the game went on late in

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<v Speaker 2>the fourth quarter. Pete, Now, huh, Yeah, that was refreshing.

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<v Speaker 2>And obviously a lot of it had to do with

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<v Speaker 2>the sling and Sammy Darnold with those five touchdown passes.

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<v Speaker 3>It did, and I think another part of that whole

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<v Speaker 3>another part of the game is we were plus three

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<v Speaker 3>and didn't turn the ball over one time, right, so

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<v Speaker 3>we had you know, the first interception by Mattellis. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think we netted any points out of that, but

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<v Speaker 3>at the time, it was very heavily time of possession.

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<v Speaker 3>Everything was very heavily favored with Atlanta. I thought Cousins

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<v Speaker 3>did a very good job of knowing where to go

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<v Speaker 3>with the football and just making good decisions. I think

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<v Speaker 3>the interception to Mattelis is just he and the receiver

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<v Speaker 3>not being on the same page he expected. I think

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<v Speaker 3>Mattellis that was an unbelievable play, but he expected the

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<v Speaker 3>receiver to break in instead of go out on the

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<v Speaker 3>seven and so miscommunication. They weren't horrible interceptions, right, It

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't as if he was booting out and there was

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<v Speaker 3>a guy stayed in a flat that he never saw.

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<v Speaker 3>So defensively, when you face a veteran quarterback, and it

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<v Speaker 3>seems like the more he watched this defense, the veterans

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<v Speaker 3>that know what to do with the ball are a

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<v Speaker 3>tougher challenge for us, more so than an even athletic quarterback.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, Donald looked fantastic, and it's just us not

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<v Speaker 3>turning the football over and being smart with.

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<v Speaker 5>It is the big help.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why we were able to, you know, put up

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<v Speaker 3>forty two and make that game, you know, that much

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<v Speaker 3>of a lead at the end.

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<v Speaker 2>To dissect Donald a little bit more. Where do you

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<v Speaker 2>think he is appreciably made the biggest to impact and

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<v Speaker 2>the biggest improvement since the beginning of the year of

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<v Speaker 2>avoiding the rush, those sideline passes that he throws with

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<v Speaker 2>great touch. I mean, there's a lot of things that

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<v Speaker 2>we're watching that Sam Darnald, I don't think people realize

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<v Speaker 2>his evasiveness.

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<v Speaker 5>He doesn't.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't have to be Patrick Mahomes to avoid a rush.

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<v Speaker 2>But Sam Darnald has done a marvelous job of keeping

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<v Speaker 2>his eyes downfield and doing the things that the great

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<v Speaker 2>quarterbacks do.

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<v Speaker 3>He's a great athlete, which is why he was chosen

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<v Speaker 3>third overall. Right, he's a big guy. He's not a scrambling,

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<v Speaker 3>let's say, quarterback, but he's a very good athlete, more

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<v Speaker 3>like Herbert right, you know, just being able to keep

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<v Speaker 3>plays alive. I think him protecting the football when he

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<v Speaker 3>is scrambling. It's kind of like there are certain times

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<v Speaker 3>when you get to know one to hold him and

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<v Speaker 3>no one to fold the meaning sometimes you're going to

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<v Speaker 3>get sacked and there's nothing you can do. Protect the

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<v Speaker 3>football on your way down and then live to play,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, not bail out and roll out and try

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<v Speaker 3>to make something out of nothing, but choose your spots

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<v Speaker 3>when you're going to use your legs. And when he

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<v Speaker 3>did and was able to extend plays, it's like you

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<v Speaker 3>got to You have to be able to feel the

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<v Speaker 3>rush and know where it's coming from.

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<v Speaker 5>You can't stare at it.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't look at it because once you start looking

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<v Speaker 3>at it you lose track of what's happening down the field.

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<v Speaker 3>So there's no way he can He's not looking at

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<v Speaker 3>the rush, he's just feeling it and he just instinctively

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<v Speaker 3>knows where to avoid it in the meantime, protecting the

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<v Speaker 3>football and then as he comes out of it, keeping

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<v Speaker 3>his eyes down the field. And I think that's something

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<v Speaker 3>that both he and the receivers have done a better

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<v Speaker 3>job of. And I've seen Justin do it and over

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<v Speaker 3>the last couple of weeks. Is when you have a

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<v Speaker 3>clock in your head, right you as a receiver, this

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<v Speaker 3>is the offenses are about timing. It's a seven step drop.

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<v Speaker 3>I've got this. I'm gonna make my break. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 3>look and if the ball's not on its way, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not just gonna quit my route because Donald's doing his

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<v Speaker 3>thing so that I'm just gonna bend it and go

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<v Speaker 3>vertically or I'm gonna do, you know, do something different.

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<v Speaker 3>And then we've we've made some plays that way, like

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<v Speaker 3>our off schedule plays. Is how is how the coaches

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<v Speaker 3>talk about it. I think his ability to get to

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<v Speaker 3>that point has improved quite a bit. Uh And we

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<v Speaker 3>saw we saw him make a couple off schedule play

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<v Speaker 3>because I mean, let's face it, between Addison and Hockinson

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<v Speaker 3>and JJ, these three guys can get themselves open and

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<v Speaker 3>if if you have a quarterback that can extend to play,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you know, these three guys are going to

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<v Speaker 3>make things happen. But it's just getting everybody on the

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<v Speaker 3>on the same page. And it's such a subtle, little difference,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's huge. We have you know, we haven't seen

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<v Speaker 3>Darnold just take a sack and fumble and you know

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<v Speaker 3>what I mean, all those things he's managing better.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really really difficult to excel at every level of

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<v Speaker 2>the game. And right now the Vikings have shown some

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<v Speaker 2>weakness in terms of defending the run. You know, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>the missing Ivan paced, maybe it's a scheme, whatever it

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<v Speaker 2>might be. It's a copycat league. You know that as

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<v Speaker 2>we get into the throes of the rest of the

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<v Speaker 2>schedule of the month of December, of the opponents that

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<v Speaker 2>are that are coming up, they're all going to try

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<v Speaker 2>to be doing the same thing. But are you noticing

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<v Speaker 2>some things as a former linebacker yourself, that the Vikings

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<v Speaker 2>need to improve on or is it just hey, listen,

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<v Speaker 2>this is the way it is the ninety eight team

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<v Speaker 2>as great as it was. Yeah, it didn't have the

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<v Speaker 2>best defense in the world.

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<v Speaker 5>They didn't have to. No, we did not.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's uh if we actually talked that during the game,

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<v Speaker 3>when when the backups got in there and I was

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<v Speaker 3>I was talking with Paul and I'm like, yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>this is big for me because this is when I

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<v Speaker 3>played right, when the when the when, This is when, when,

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<v Speaker 3>as foage Fasio called us, the unteachables could get out

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<v Speaker 3>there and play a little bit. Yeah, the run game,

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<v Speaker 3>is it a concern? Yeah, you want to get better.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's it's the problem in the NFL. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>it's not one thing. If it was just a guy

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<v Speaker 3>that was a problem, you can get rid of the

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<v Speaker 3>problem right and fix it. It's the defensive tackles giving

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<v Speaker 3>up a little bit too much. It's the outside linebacker

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<v Speaker 3>playing a little bit too wide and then combo that

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<v Speaker 3>with the inside linebacker maybe not reading it perfectly or

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<v Speaker 3>not being physical enough at the point of attack.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>So, yeah, you miss Ivan Pace, you miss a guy

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<v Speaker 3>like that, you know, you go into the game with

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<v Speaker 3>I think Harrison Phillips was questionable, so you know he's

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<v Speaker 3>nicked up. We don't have a lot of depth at

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<v Speaker 3>the interior defensive lineman because they're those guys are Bullard

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<v Speaker 3>and artillery. Those guys are not on the field on

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<v Speaker 3>third down, right, So you're you're putting in your jahad

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<v Speaker 3>Wards and some of those other smaller guys gass rushing

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<v Speaker 3>guys on the field and third down. So I think

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<v Speaker 3>it's a combo platter, you know, of all that, don't

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<v Speaker 3>John Robinson's a good running back. Damn This offensive line

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<v Speaker 3>is very good.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>What they remind me of is the is the Denver

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<v Speaker 3>Broncos back probably twenty years ago, and they just ran

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<v Speaker 3>that zone play right and they would hold the living

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<v Speaker 3>hell out of back when you could dive on the

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<v Speaker 3>back of guy's legs and they would hurt. That offense

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<v Speaker 3>is reminiscent of that. I think they got. What's unfortunate

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<v Speaker 3>for them is they get the They got a crew

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<v Speaker 3>referee crew that called more holding penalties than anybody in

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<v Speaker 3>the league, and they they kind of, you know, they

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<v Speaker 3>got them. So penalties killed them.

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<v Speaker 2>So looking ahead, we know that the Vikings played the

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<v Speaker 2>Bears was a few weeks ago. They had a disastrous

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<v Speaker 2>game Sunday in San Francisco. I mean they went, they

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<v Speaker 2>went eighteen steps backwards. So Monday night football, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you know the Caleb Williams is kind of shaking his head.

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<v Speaker 2>They changed their head coaches. How do you make sure

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<v Speaker 2>that you don't let down in this game? I guess

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<v Speaker 2>you just look at the standings and realize they got

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<v Speaker 2>to stay close to Detroit.

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<v Speaker 3>You got to let them, you know, as quickly as possible.

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<v Speaker 3>Tonight's not your night. Tonight's not the night you guys

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<v Speaker 3>are going to rebound. Tonight's not to night that you're

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<v Speaker 3>going to go home on that plane and feel good.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe next week, but not this week. So starting fast,

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<v Speaker 3>I think is huge against the team like the Bears.

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<v Speaker 3>They know us, we know them, so it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit more difficult. These divisional games always are

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<v Speaker 3>in that respect. But you can't go ahead and make

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<v Speaker 3>mistakes and let them think or feel that they are

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<v Speaker 3>in this game. If you hit them in the mouth

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<v Speaker 3>right away and get them to just say, Okay, this

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<v Speaker 3>is not the week, right. It's that mentality because what

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<v Speaker 3>are they playing for? And usually what's so weird about

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<v Speaker 3>this is usually when a head coach gets fired, you

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<v Speaker 3>get a bump that next week, Right, everybody, everybody's sitting

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<v Speaker 3>up in their seats a little bit straighter, and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you're worried about to because they because the players know, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>they're going to fire the coach first and then we're next,

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<v Speaker 3>so that's always in the back of their mind. But

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<v Speaker 3>to put up and I'm very interested to watch the

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<v Speaker 3>film and get more road on what happened. But the

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<v Speaker 3>first half of that forty nine ers game. Something's missing there,

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<v Speaker 3>and hopefully they won't find it. But it's National TV,

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<v Speaker 3>right who wants to look bad at National TV on

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<v Speaker 3>Monday night football, So they're going to be prepared. Don't

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<v Speaker 3>expect the Bears team that shows up Monday to be

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<v Speaker 3>the one that showed up the first half of the

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<v Speaker 3>forty nine Ers game.

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<v Speaker 5>They're going to be much better.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, keep in mind too, that the Vikings have the

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<v Speaker 2>benefit of playing Monday night and the Lions are hosting

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<v Speaker 2>the Buffalo Bills on Sunday afternoon. So I mean, we'll

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<v Speaker 2>know where we sit right now with an opportunity potentially

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<v Speaker 2>moving to a time for first place because we know

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<v Speaker 2>what's the rest of the schedule hold. So it's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of fun to kind of just dissect that. Look

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<v Speaker 2>at all the playoff possibilities. Who imagine that we would

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<v Speaker 2>be in this situation.

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<v Speaker 3>I think we're I think everybody. I think we kind

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<v Speaker 3>of know who the players are going to be, right

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<v Speaker 3>at least in the NFC side going into the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just who's going to go where. It's unbelievable, but

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<v Speaker 3>that's what the NFL wants. That's why they schedule heavy division.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, schedule your division heavy. At the end of

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<v Speaker 3>the season.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, NFC North continues to dominate, no questions. I mentioned

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<v Speaker 2>We're coming back to the US Bank Stadium for the

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<v Speaker 2>Winter White Out game in primetime Monday Night football against

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<v Speaker 2>I always want to do the Howard Cole Seale voice

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<v Speaker 2>against the Chicago Bears. The TV coverage will be over

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<v Speaker 2>on ESPN and ABC at seven o'clock Central here in

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<v Speaker 2>the Twin Cities, so be sure to check your local

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<v Speaker 2>listings for more details. Of course, you can also catch

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<v Speaker 2>Paul Allen, Ben Leeber and the one and Milli Pete

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