WEBVTT - 01/13/21 DPS Hour 1 Mike Florio

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<v Speaker 1>You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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<v Speaker 1>though we're down to Danette. Fritzie is joining us from home. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Fritzie is zooming in today. Big brother, the Wizard of

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<v Speaker 1>Oz is there? Is it just the monitor or your head? Todd?

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<v Speaker 1>It seems like you're larger than life there at home. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>we're getting started a ready, Yeah, yeah, just want to

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<v Speaker 1>let you know, great to see my head. My head

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<v Speaker 1>looked very big in this shot. Um, it's just a mom,

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<v Speaker 1>very pasty and pale and white. But you are pasty

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<v Speaker 1>and pale. But even more so, she's more dramatic on

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<v Speaker 1>this screen. Here we got chili wafting through the air here.

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<v Speaker 1>Now are we having chili today, Polly? Yes, So if

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<v Speaker 1>Todd had to make chili for losing the bet with

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<v Speaker 1>the Broncos, well, we bought all this stuff to make chili.

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<v Speaker 1>This morning I came entiler the creator who handles up audio,

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<v Speaker 1>your dog and a chili. We decided, let's tank some chili.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's start tailgating now for the big weekend of football.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're having Chili today, two days away from football.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on in, stay a while. Mike Florio will join us,

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<v Speaker 1>coming up here in a little bit. We'll talk about

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<v Speaker 1>dot com. Pay a day, Play the Day, poll, question,

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<v Speaker 1>stat of the Day, all that forthcoming, Paul, He's going

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<v Speaker 1>to do the honors with the pole question today with

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<v Speaker 1>Fritzie being at home, and we start off with the

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<v Speaker 1>LA Lakers came into this year as a favor to

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<v Speaker 1>compete for the title, and why not you got superstars

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<v Speaker 1>like Lebron and Anthony Davis. You traded for Russell Westbrook

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<v Speaker 1>Junior the third, and that trade came with a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of scrutiny. I didn't like it. I sort of understand

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<v Speaker 1>that I was trying to understand what they were doing

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<v Speaker 1>during the regular season, and that is Westbrook is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to take a little bit of the

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<v Speaker 1>workload off Lebron's shoulders. Well, that hasn't been the case.

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<v Speaker 1>Westbrook's an explosive athlete, but he's limited, below average shooter.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a turnover waiting to happen. He went two for

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen last night, eight points, and the Lakers lost at

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<v Speaker 1>home to the Kings. And Lebron has been unbelievable. He's

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<v Speaker 1>been shouldering the load because Anthony Davis isn't there. He

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<v Speaker 1>had thirty four points, he had six assists. He's at

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<v Speaker 1>age thirty seven, averaging more points today than he did

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<v Speaker 1>when he was twenty seven years of age. But that

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<v Speaker 1>longevity is being wasted right now. The Lakers are eight

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<v Speaker 1>in the West. Anthony Davis can't stay healthy. Westbrook. The

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<v Speaker 1>trade hasn't worked out. The good news for la as

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<v Speaker 1>Lebron isn't slowing down, but the bad news is how

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<v Speaker 1>long can he continue to do this at this pace?

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<v Speaker 1>And really what is the endgame here? Lebron has scored

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<v Speaker 1>thirty or more in eleven of his last twelve games,

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<v Speaker 1>but the Lakers are ten and nine this season when

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<v Speaker 1>he scores thirty or more, and you have to go

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<v Speaker 1>back to two thousand and seven when he did that,

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<v Speaker 1>when he had that many losses. That's when he was

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<v Speaker 1>with the Cleveland Cavaliers. But watching last night, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>going to get any better with Russell Westbrook. That's just

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<v Speaker 1>who he is. And then, you know, we always look

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<v Speaker 1>at a trade from one side. We always like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>who were the Lakers going to get if they trade

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<v Speaker 1>Russell Westbrook? Okay, who wants Russell Westbrook? That's really what

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<v Speaker 1>the that's the question that needs to be answered the Lakers.

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<v Speaker 1>If they can unload Russell Westbrook and get a shooter,

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<v Speaker 1>somebody who is a little bit more of a pure

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<v Speaker 1>point guard, I'm sure they would gladly do it. But

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<v Speaker 1>these salaries are so crazy. It's like trying to trade

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<v Speaker 1>Tobias Harris. You know, Ben Simmons, who wants those salaries?

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<v Speaker 1>And you still have that drama attached to Ben Simmons,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, is anybody gonna want him? And I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if anybody's asked how is his mental health? Like,

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<v Speaker 1>is he going through therapy? He's not playing basketball. I

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<v Speaker 1>just want to know why, And I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>there's been an update there, because if he gets traded,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm guessing he's probably going to be mentally ready to

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<v Speaker 1>play for whoever trades for him. But if you're not practicing,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not playing. Nobody wants to give you a king's

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<v Speaker 1>ransom for Ben Simmons. And even then if you trade

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<v Speaker 1>for him, I don't even know what you're getting. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still waiting for an update on Ben Simmons on

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<v Speaker 1>just can he play? Does he want to play? Because

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm going to trade for him, I need to

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<v Speaker 1>know these things. Yeah, pull remember when the season started.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember we did a show in October and we

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<v Speaker 1>talked about the current Lakers roster and the way it's built.

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<v Speaker 1>Russell Westbrook can definitely play a lot of minutes. He's

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<v Speaker 1>always a top minutes guy. And Anthony Davis would coming

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<v Speaker 1>into the season air quotes healthy and we said this

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<v Speaker 1>is great for Lebron. He could pace himself. He won't

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<v Speaker 1>have to be the focal point. Russell Westbrook could handle

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<v Speaker 1>the regular season and Anthony Davis and Lebron could do

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<v Speaker 1>his thing in the playoffs, and it's turned out to

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<v Speaker 1>be the exact opposite there. I think their record is,

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<v Speaker 1>are they five hundred, twenty one, twenty one? I just

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<v Speaker 1>know they're eight seed in the West. Yeah, they need

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<v Speaker 1>Lebron to play a lot. Now, imagine if he wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>playing at this level. Yeah, or pacing himself. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna be pretty. Here's Lebron James talking about the

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<v Speaker 1>lost last night and the season. You know, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to you know, jockey for positioning or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>garats of playoffs, you want to be in your stride

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<v Speaker 1>at the white time. So, um, you know, we have

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<v Speaker 1>forty two games now and uh forty left, and we

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<v Speaker 1>want to see what we made. But um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's definitely been our roller coaster so far. Here's the

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<v Speaker 1>Lakers head coach, Frank Vogel talking about Russell Westbrook. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we're we're working with Russ. He's you know, he's receiving

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<v Speaker 1>our coaching and just trying to put him in positions

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<v Speaker 1>to succeed. And you know he's you know, he's just

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<v Speaker 1>in a slump right now, you know, finish at the basketball,

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<v Speaker 1>shooting from the perimeter, and we's goin to stay with

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<v Speaker 1>it and help him through it. I don't think I

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<v Speaker 1>labeled this as slump unless you say it's a ten

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<v Speaker 1>year slump because he's not a good shooter. He's a scorer,

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<v Speaker 1>he can't shoot a big difference. He's a wonderful all

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<v Speaker 1>around talent. But how many meaningful games does he win?

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that's really the key with that style

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<v Speaker 1>that while he does give you that energy, he giveth

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<v Speaker 1>and take it away. There was also another story. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>the Brooklyn Nets look good. You know he had all

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<v Speaker 1>three on the floor. Yeah again, Brooklyn Nets look good

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<v Speaker 1>as they beat the Chicago Bulls. But what stood out

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<v Speaker 1>was his story in the New York Daily News yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>Stephen Bondi covers the NBA. He said the Nets could

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<v Speaker 1>use a loophole here that would allow Kyrie Irving to

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<v Speaker 1>play during home games. Now, the former mayor of New

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<v Speaker 1>York City, Build A. Blasio, had key to New York

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<v Speaker 1>City Executive Order which that was preventing the unvaccinated Kyrie

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<v Speaker 1>Irving from playing home games. The executive order lists certain

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<v Speaker 1>penalties for non compliance. Well, guess what the penalties are

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<v Speaker 1>for non compliance? First defense, you get a warning. Second

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<v Speaker 1>offense one thousand dollars fine, Third offense two thousand dollars fine. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>once again, you're doing this as if it's just a

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<v Speaker 1>regular citizen in New York City, not a guy who's

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<v Speaker 1>making forty million dollars a year. Fourth offense is five

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars. Fifth offense five thousand dollars, and then after

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<v Speaker 1>that it's just five thousand dollars. Wouldn't you say, will

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<v Speaker 1>pay the fine for Kyrie to play home games? I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to guess the Nets knew this. The Nets have

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<v Speaker 1>twenty home games left. Let's say you have a maximum

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<v Speaker 1>of sixteen playoff games. Sixteen more in the playoffs. If

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<v Speaker 1>the Nets advanced to the finals have home court advantage

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<v Speaker 1>in every single round, each series goes all seven games,

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<v Speaker 1>that will equate to one hundred and seventy three thousand

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<v Speaker 1>dollars in fines at the most. It's a hell of

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<v Speaker 1>an investment. Stat of the day, stat of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>that best stat of the day stat of the day

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<v Speaker 1>here comes that what stat of the day? And Stephen

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<v Speaker 1>Bondi goes on to write in the New York Daily News, Brooklyn,

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<v Speaker 1>having presumably done plenty of due diligence on the Kyrie situation,

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<v Speaker 1>most likely knew about the loophole before the season even began.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's the case, then, why don't you just say

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna pay the fine? You pay a couple hundred

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars. And I don't know if the NBA, or

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<v Speaker 1>maybe out of principle that the Nets are saying, look,

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<v Speaker 1>we want to be fair to the city. We don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to kind of rub their nose in it look

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<v Speaker 1>the other way. But that might be what you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to do with Kybrie. Irving that all right, cost you

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<v Speaker 1>five thousand dollars. Suit up, I'd pay it. If I'm

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<v Speaker 1>the Brooklyn Nets. I'm looking the money you're paying for

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<v Speaker 1>him not to play? Why not just pay five thousand

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<v Speaker 1>dollars more and I'm gonna get my money's worth out

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<v Speaker 1>of him. Yeah, Paul, is he the highest paid non

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<v Speaker 1>playing athlete? DeShawn Watson's got to be up there, not

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<v Speaker 1>athletes who don't really play their sport. Up until a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of weeks ago, Kyrie Deshaun Watson's gotta be making

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<v Speaker 1>thirty million to not play this year twenty five, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>what's Ben Simmons. Ben Simmons got to be in the

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<v Speaker 1>thirty million category, thirty five play. I think Deshaun is

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<v Speaker 1>up there as well. He has to be over thirty million, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>not play. Yeah, but Kyrie's I think Kyrie is probably

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<v Speaker 1>thirty five million dollars. I got de Shawn at thirty five. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's just a loophole, just just a factor in

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<v Speaker 1>second half of the season. If you're the Nets, can

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<v Speaker 1>you do this and basically say to the City of

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<v Speaker 1>New York, Hey, we're gonna pay the fine, but he's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be playing in these games. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what the NBA would do, but that loophole is there.

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<v Speaker 1>And he was in the New York Daily News. Stephan BONDI,

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<v Speaker 1>you know Ben simm Is at thirty three. Oh, he's

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<v Speaker 1>only a thirty three million marga for not playing. Yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>He doesn't want to play at home. He doesn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to play at home. Kyrie would love to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to play at home. Ben wants to play all of

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<v Speaker 1>his games on the road as well. What poll questions

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<v Speaker 1>do you have today, Paul, Okay, I have an actual

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<v Speaker 1>poll question, but here's the snarky one we got from

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<v Speaker 1>the back room that I'm very proud of those guys

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<v Speaker 1>coming up with. Wow. Which supporting cast right now would

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<v Speaker 1>give Lebron the best chance to win another title, the

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<v Speaker 1>Lakers supporting cast or the Cleveland Cavalier supporting cast. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>The Lakers are five hundred, the Calves are twenty four

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<v Speaker 1>and eighteen, and the Cavaliers had the best win margin

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<v Speaker 1>percent in the East. They're winning their games by five

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<v Speaker 1>points a game. The Cavaliers are a quality team. I

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<v Speaker 1>think I could say that, Yeah, I told you that

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of weeks ago. Your Calves, Yeah, very good team,

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<v Speaker 1>interesting team, young team. But I was watching last night

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<v Speaker 1>and you start to think about the you know, Brandon

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<v Speaker 1>ingram A, Lonzo Ball, Julius randall these players who were

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<v Speaker 1>with the Lakers, and then they wanted to cash in

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<v Speaker 1>on those younger players. They wanted to bring in Anthony Davis.

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<v Speaker 1>If you said to Lebron, now, you wouldn't have gotten

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<v Speaker 1>a title perhaps with you know that group and not

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<v Speaker 1>Anthony Davis. But if you said to Lebron, hey, you

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<v Speaker 1>want the younger guys here that you didn't want, because

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<v Speaker 1>those guys would be very helpful for Lebron right now.

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<v Speaker 1>And if it means you don't have Russell Westbrook and

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have Anthony Davis, but you have the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of that group, I'm sure Lebron would sign up for that. Yes, Paul,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm calling my shot here. Bronnie James gets drafted by

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<v Speaker 1>the Cleveland team. Right I don't know where he's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be drafted, but when he gets done with college or

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<v Speaker 1>whatever he's gonna do, Bronnie James goes to Cleveland, they

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<v Speaker 1>draft him, and Lebron finishes his career on a one

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<v Speaker 1>year contract to play with son in Cleveland. Um, he

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't like that owner hells his son though, Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>he I didn't like that owner. He could buy the team,

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<v Speaker 1>play one year player coach owner GM all four slash

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<v Speaker 1>and his son is the small forward. If he loves

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<v Speaker 1>his son, he's not lettinghim play there. Yeah, I retract

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<v Speaker 1>my stavid. Um. I could see Lebron the last year

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<v Speaker 1>of his NBA career with a team that he would

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<v Speaker 1>eventually then become a part owner of that that I

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<v Speaker 1>think would be a bigger picture where you could see, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll come to the pistons. Let me be a part

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<v Speaker 1>owner here. I want to play one year with my

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<v Speaker 1>son and then I'll go into the front office. That's

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<v Speaker 1>that's sort of the scenario that I see. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>on a poll question, got a play of the day

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<v Speaker 1>coming up? Another stat of the day as well, judging

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<v Speaker 1>by your reaction on Twitter. A little surprise with the

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<v Speaker 1>loophole there with Kyrie Irving going to cost him or

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<v Speaker 1>the team five thousand dollars after his fifth offense if

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<v Speaker 1>he plays in a home game you're already paying him,

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<v Speaker 1>might not pay the five thousand dollars you get him

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<v Speaker 1>to play, and that could lead to a real, real

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<v Speaker 1>dangerous Nets team here in the second half of the season.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, if you got poll question, we'll bring in

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Florio. Yeah, Dan, Our one pole question, the AFC

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<v Speaker 1>underdog that wins this weekend. Okay, So the Bengals are

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<v Speaker 1>five and a half point favorite on the Raiders, the

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<v Speaker 1>Bills are four point favorite on the Patriots, and the

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<v Speaker 1>Chiefs big favorite twelve and a half on the Steelers.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a first Our pole underdog that wins this weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>The underdog that wins this weekend, not has the best

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<v Speaker 1>chance to win, that will win, That will win because

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<v Speaker 1>Ben has already said we have no chance to beat

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<v Speaker 1>Kansas City I like how the headline makes it seem like, Ben,

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<v Speaker 1>we have no chance. It's all tongue in cheek there

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<v Speaker 1>with Ben. Yeah, yeah, we got no chance. He did

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<v Speaker 1>the old eye roll there and like, yeah, you might

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<v Speaker 1>not have any chance. But I'm not buying how he's saved.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think the Kansas City Chiefs are going? Ben

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't think they have any chance to win. Boy, this

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<v Speaker 1>will be really easy. That ain't gonna happen here. Mike Florio,

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<v Speaker 1>popular co host or Pro Football Talk Live. He joins

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<v Speaker 1>us on the program. Let me start with the poll

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<v Speaker 1>question the underdog best chance to win in the AFC.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's the Patriots. Bill Belichick's single elimination all

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<v Speaker 1>those playoff games he's coached over the years. And it

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<v Speaker 1>has to be a record that the Bills and the

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<v Speaker 1>Patriots for two teams to get together three times in

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<v Speaker 1>forty days. They had two late regular season games. Patriots

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<v Speaker 1>won in Buffalo on a cold and windy night. Now

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<v Speaker 1>it's not gonna be as windy, and even if it is,

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<v Speaker 1>I think the Bills have figured out they need to

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<v Speaker 1>unleash Josh Allen. It's not going to be easy for

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<v Speaker 1>the Patriots. But it's hard not to trust Bill Belichick.

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<v Speaker 1>If you give me those three options and you say

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<v Speaker 1>which one wins, and we know that home teams have

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<v Speaker 1>been winning games like never before, I'd have to go

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<v Speaker 1>with the Patriots. All the votes are in for all

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<v Speaker 1>the honors, Coach of the Year, MVP, all of that's

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<v Speaker 1>been tabulated here. Who's your Coach of the Year. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have one of the votes, so we do

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<v Speaker 1>our own awards and at PFT I consulted with my

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<v Speaker 1>staff and I'm not being sarcastic because I wasn't sure

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<v Speaker 1>which way I was going to go with Coach of

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<v Speaker 1>the Year, but they persuaded me that it should be

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Gravel. And when you consider that they set a

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<v Speaker 1>record in Week twelve, they set the record for the

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<v Speaker 1>number of total players used, They didn't have Dereck Henry,

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<v Speaker 1>the best player on their team for more than half

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<v Speaker 1>of the season, and they still got the number one

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<v Speaker 1>seed in a top heavy AFC. You know, I was

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<v Speaker 1>thinking Matt Lafleur until we really sat down and talked

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<v Speaker 1>it through, and Rich Besacci, what he did was so special.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's a tough year. But I think vrabel By

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<v Speaker 1>a nose over Lafleur. Yeah, I was wondering about Belichick

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<v Speaker 1>with it was like last year he did one of

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<v Speaker 1>his best coaching jobs. This year, I expected them to

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<v Speaker 1>make the playoffs. But I don't know, how do you

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<v Speaker 1>differentiate when you're the greatest coach of all time? It's

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<v Speaker 1>like Chuck Noll, I don't think everyone coach of the year.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the great coaches are the guys who are

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<v Speaker 1>really successful normally don't win Coach of the Year. Why

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<v Speaker 1>is that, Well, because the Coach of the Year is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of loosely determined by how far you exceed the

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<v Speaker 1>expectations that were loosely out there going into the season.

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<v Speaker 1>So if there's a team that's just supposed to be

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<v Speaker 1>complete and total crap and they make the playoffs, all

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<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, that coach is a viable candidate for

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<v Speaker 1>Coach of the Year. The bar is always high for

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<v Speaker 1>the Patriots, So it's very difficult for Bill Belichick to

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<v Speaker 1>exceed that bar high enough that it stands out over

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<v Speaker 1>somebody who takes a team from worst to first, like

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<v Speaker 1>a Zach Taylor, who should get some consideration, or a

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<v Speaker 1>Vrabel who did something special with his best player but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Dan, we also do executive a year that's

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<v Speaker 1>not one of the official Associated Press NFL awards. Sporting News,

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<v Speaker 1>for whatever reason, is still the officially recognized executive of

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<v Speaker 1>the year. That's the one that people pay attention to.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why. I don't even think they still

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<v Speaker 1>make Sporting News, But that's another issue altogether. We made

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<v Speaker 1>Belichick our Executive of the Year because it's always hand

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<v Speaker 1>in hand. What Belichick does as an executive either makes

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<v Speaker 1>it harder or easier for him as a coach. This year,

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<v Speaker 1>what they did going all in, spending all that money

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<v Speaker 1>when they had the cap space that they had carefully

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<v Speaker 1>built in a year where other teams weren't as competitive

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<v Speaker 1>because of the drop in the salary cap due to

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<v Speaker 1>the pandemic, and they got mac Jones when maybe the

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<v Speaker 1>forty nine ers really did want him with the third

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<v Speaker 1>overall pick, and they ultimately didn't take him, and it

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<v Speaker 1>just worked out well that they have the talent they

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<v Speaker 1>need to be as competitive as they were. So he's

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<v Speaker 1>Executive of the Year and not Coach of the Year,

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<v Speaker 1>but Executive of the year. Who's worst executive of the year. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, Dave Gettim has already been fired, although

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<v Speaker 1>although you know, the reality is and I think one

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<v Speaker 1>of the things we learn every year at this time,

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<v Speaker 1>as the bad teams dump coaches and general managers and

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<v Speaker 1>they make their owners available to speak to the media,

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<v Speaker 1>you start to get an idea of why bad teams

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<v Speaker 1>stay bad and why they can't get out of their

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<v Speaker 1>own way. I got some strong feelings about the Giants,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, and I think the Mayor family is way

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<v Speaker 1>too involved in the management of that team from a

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<v Speaker 1>personnel standpoint, and they're so involved that they don't even

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<v Speaker 1>realize how involved they are. But there's a reason this

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<v Speaker 1>team has been to the playoffs once in the last decade.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a reason this team has one yeah, yeah, one

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<v Speaker 1>playoff appears, no playoff victory since their last Super Bowl win.

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<v Speaker 1>It's stunning how far they've fallen. And I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>they're in quicksand, and the harder they try to get out,

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<v Speaker 1>the deeper they sink. And I think at this point,

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<v Speaker 1>I got the vibe from the mayor press conference yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think they know what to do. Now. They're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to admit that, but just I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>they know what to do, and unless they're willing to

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<v Speaker 1>completely step aside from the personnel side of the giants,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that a general manager who has real

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<v Speaker 1>options should want to go step into that job. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>they fired Joe Judge, which they had to do. I

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<v Speaker 1>was told that on Monday that if you don't fire

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Judge, you're going to limit the number of candidates

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<v Speaker 1>to become a general manager there. But I look at

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<v Speaker 1>Stephen Ross in Miami, it doesn't feel like he knows

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<v Speaker 1>what he's doing. You have the Bears, the mccowski family,

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't feel like they know what they're doing right now,

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<v Speaker 1>and for different reasons, for different reasons. With Ross, this

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<v Speaker 1>is very simple and there's a sweet spot. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>big into owners meddling into what their team does, unless

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to give yourself the title like Jerry Jones

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<v Speaker 1>did thirty two years ago and thirty two years later

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<v Speaker 1>he's the general manager of the team. But I think

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<v Speaker 1>the owner needs to live and work in the facility,

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<v Speaker 1>in the building, in the town where his team is.

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<v Speaker 1>You need to have that presence every day. The owners

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<v Speaker 1>in the building Robert Kraft and Robert Kraft isn't meddling

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<v Speaker 1>with the Patriots, but his base of operations is Gilette Stadium.

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<v Speaker 1>I think if you're going to buy an NFL team,

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<v Speaker 1>you need to make that commitment that where the team

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<v Speaker 1>does business, you do your business. You need to be

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<v Speaker 1>there because when Steven Ross barnstorm's in and he's watching

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<v Speaker 1>a game in the luxury suite and he's got people

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<v Speaker 1>from the front office whispering to him, and the coach

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<v Speaker 1>can't defend himself, and there's any type of dysfunction in

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<v Speaker 1>the organization when the boss isn't there, who's getting thrown

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<v Speaker 1>under the bus. It's the guy who doesn't have a

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<v Speaker 1>voice whispering into the boss is here the one day

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<v Speaker 1>a week that he happens to be in town. And

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<v Speaker 1>with the Bears it's a different issue all together. But

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<v Speaker 1>with Stephen Ross, he should either commit to that team completely,

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<v Speaker 1>move to South Florida, show up every day, or just

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<v Speaker 1>sell the team to someone who will. He's Mike Florio

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<v Speaker 1>Pro Football Talk Live co host with Chris Simms. The

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<v Speaker 1>Jim Harbor situation. It seems like he's enjoying this because

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<v Speaker 1>it felt like last year he was holding on for

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<v Speaker 1>dear life. Take a pay cut. Now all of a sudden, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you got blown out by Georgia, But so what you know?

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<v Speaker 1>Now you've got teams reportedly interested in him. Has anybody

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<v Speaker 1>interviewed Jim Harball yet? In the NFL, those types of

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<v Speaker 1>interviews can happen without anyone knowing. The reason that we

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<v Speaker 1>see these reports over and over again this week that

0:24:26.240 --> 0:24:28.840
<v Speaker 1>the Vikings requested permission to speak to this person. That

0:24:28.960 --> 0:24:31.600
<v Speaker 1>bears requests of permission to speak to that person. If

0:24:31.600 --> 0:24:34.440
<v Speaker 1>it's somebody who's currently employed by one of the other teams,

0:24:34.480 --> 0:24:36.159
<v Speaker 1>there's a piece of paper that makes it to the

0:24:36.240 --> 0:24:39.439
<v Speaker 1>league office that then gets leaked to reporters they have

0:24:39.520 --> 0:24:43.239
<v Speaker 1>on the payroll or others that this interview is going

0:24:43.280 --> 0:24:46.040
<v Speaker 1>to happen. If it's not somebody who's currently employed by

0:24:46.080 --> 0:24:49.920
<v Speaker 1>another team, there's no obligation to let it be known

0:24:49.960 --> 0:24:51.960
<v Speaker 1>to the league office that you're talking to these people.

0:24:52.000 --> 0:24:53.600
<v Speaker 1>You keep your internal records. You need to be able

0:24:53.600 --> 0:24:56.199
<v Speaker 1>to show that you did a proper search. But you know,

0:24:56.280 --> 0:24:58.280
<v Speaker 1>somebody gave me the idea over the weekend that maybe

0:24:58.320 --> 0:25:01.359
<v Speaker 1>Mark Davis has already quietly spoken to the likes of

0:25:01.440 --> 0:25:04.399
<v Speaker 1>Jim Harbaugh. Maybe a gym called, well, you know others

0:25:04.400 --> 0:25:07.960
<v Speaker 1>who are not connected to other teams. Mark Davis did

0:25:08.000 --> 0:25:10.840
<v Speaker 1>not take advantage of the two week heads start to

0:25:10.880 --> 0:25:14.480
<v Speaker 1>speak to assistant coaches with other teams. He's focused, so

0:25:14.520 --> 0:25:17.639
<v Speaker 1>he said on the postseason. But there's a thought that

0:25:17.680 --> 0:25:20.160
<v Speaker 1>he's already talked to some people when Harbaugh could be

0:25:20.200 --> 0:25:23.920
<v Speaker 1>talking off the grid to a lot of these teams.

0:25:23.920 --> 0:25:26.000
<v Speaker 1>And it used to be that's how college coaches did it.

0:25:26.000 --> 0:25:29.200
<v Speaker 1>It was the kiss of death to ever let anyone

0:25:29.320 --> 0:25:31.280
<v Speaker 1>know you were talking to an NFL team because it

0:25:31.320 --> 0:25:32.760
<v Speaker 1>was going to be used against you in recruiting. I

0:25:32.760 --> 0:25:35.320
<v Speaker 1>remember when the forty nine ers hired Dennis Rickson in

0:25:35.359 --> 0:25:37.560
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and three. Nobody even knew Dennis Rickson was

0:25:37.600 --> 0:25:39.359
<v Speaker 1>a candidate, and he shouldn't have been, but nobody even

0:25:39.440 --> 0:25:41.440
<v Speaker 1>knew he was a candidate for the job. And that's

0:25:41.440 --> 0:25:42.880
<v Speaker 1>how it used to be. But now it's a little

0:25:42.920 --> 0:25:45.880
<v Speaker 1>more open, and I think Harbaugh is maybe, at a minimum,

0:25:45.880 --> 0:25:49.680
<v Speaker 1>at a minimum back channel discussions about what he would

0:25:49.720 --> 0:25:52.840
<v Speaker 1>be paid, and hey, do your thing leverage Michigan that

0:25:53.080 --> 0:25:54.960
<v Speaker 1>you took a four million dollar pay cut, This is

0:25:54.960 --> 0:25:56.760
<v Speaker 1>your chance to make it back. Go make it back,

0:25:58.760 --> 0:26:02.120
<v Speaker 1>Antonio Brown. He is not going to play. I guess

0:26:02.160 --> 0:26:03.360
<v Speaker 1>the team is not going to be able to pick

0:26:03.440 --> 0:26:06.200
<v Speaker 1>him up. Is he going to need surgery on his ankle,

0:26:07.640 --> 0:26:12.000
<v Speaker 1>so therefore that would preclude him from joining another team. Well,

0:26:12.080 --> 0:26:15.800
<v Speaker 1>this is the old dog chasing its tail analysis with

0:26:15.840 --> 0:26:19.720
<v Speaker 1>Antonio Brown because we saw him play against the Jets

0:26:19.920 --> 0:26:23.040
<v Speaker 1>and one of the big arguments against the notion that

0:26:23.080 --> 0:26:24.879
<v Speaker 1>he said he was injured, people saying, oh, he ran

0:26:24.960 --> 0:26:26.840
<v Speaker 1>off the field. Fine, Oh, look at this. He was playing,

0:26:26.880 --> 0:26:29.040
<v Speaker 1>so I think he could play at a level below

0:26:29.080 --> 0:26:31.640
<v Speaker 1>one hundred percent. He was on that podcast last week

0:26:31.680 --> 0:26:33.760
<v Speaker 1>and they never really drilled down on the question I

0:26:33.800 --> 0:26:37.200
<v Speaker 1>would have you're not one hundred percent, But if the

0:26:37.280 --> 0:26:41.399
<v Speaker 1>Chiefs would call you and you're eighty five percent and

0:26:41.440 --> 0:26:45.000
<v Speaker 1>they'll take eighty five percent Antonio Brown over one Byron

0:26:45.000 --> 0:26:48.440
<v Speaker 1>Pringle to Marcus Robinson and Josh Gordon, would you do that?

0:26:49.000 --> 0:26:52.119
<v Speaker 1>And you know the fact that we haven't heard that

0:26:52.280 --> 0:26:56.119
<v Speaker 1>surgery is scheduled, it makes me think that he's just

0:26:56.200 --> 0:26:59.480
<v Speaker 1>kind of waiting and waiting just in case. And hey,

0:26:59.560 --> 0:27:01.439
<v Speaker 1>look at this, if the Chiefs win this weekend and

0:27:01.520 --> 0:27:03.320
<v Speaker 1>Tyreek Hill gets injured and he's done for the rest

0:27:03.359 --> 0:27:04.720
<v Speaker 1>of the playoffs and I don't want to be accused

0:27:04.720 --> 0:27:07.000
<v Speaker 1>of jinxing anyone, but that could happen. He's got that

0:27:07.080 --> 0:27:09.119
<v Speaker 1>heel that he was hobbling around with. If all of

0:27:09.160 --> 0:27:11.399
<v Speaker 1>a sudden Tyreek kills gone and the Chiefs are still alive,

0:27:11.800 --> 0:27:14.040
<v Speaker 1>how do you not at least consider giving Antonio Brown

0:27:14.080 --> 0:27:16.400
<v Speaker 1>a call? So, you know, I think the smart move

0:27:16.480 --> 0:27:19.560
<v Speaker 1>for him is delay the surgery, and I think he

0:27:19.600 --> 0:27:21.639
<v Speaker 1>does need surgery. But I think if he had to,

0:27:21.840 --> 0:27:23.919
<v Speaker 1>just like he did that day at MetLife Stadium, shooting

0:27:24.000 --> 0:27:26.240
<v Speaker 1>up with tour at all, go out and play or

0:27:26.280 --> 0:27:30.119
<v Speaker 1>the cold stuck at quarterback, Well, they've given up a

0:27:30.119 --> 0:27:32.120
<v Speaker 1>third round pick and what will be a first round

0:27:32.119 --> 0:27:35.879
<v Speaker 1>pick for Carson Wentz. Now contractually, could they have some

0:27:35.920 --> 0:27:39.520
<v Speaker 1>flexibility they didn't take the gigantic cap charge on because

0:27:39.520 --> 0:27:42.280
<v Speaker 1>it was the Eagles that made the big upfront investment

0:27:42.280 --> 0:27:44.399
<v Speaker 1>in Carson Wentz. I just think that they would be

0:27:44.440 --> 0:27:47.240
<v Speaker 1>wise to consider all options. And when Frank Reich was

0:27:47.280 --> 0:27:49.199
<v Speaker 1>asked the question earlier this week, you know, when you

0:27:49.240 --> 0:27:52.399
<v Speaker 1>have a true franchise quarterback and you're asked any question

0:27:52.480 --> 0:27:54.879
<v Speaker 1>about who you know, what the status of your quarterback is.

0:27:54.960 --> 0:27:56.720
<v Speaker 1>You know, if they would ask Matt Lafleur about Aaron

0:27:56.760 --> 0:27:59.280
<v Speaker 1>Rodgers status or Bruce Arians about Tom Brady says, is

0:27:59.400 --> 0:28:02.440
<v Speaker 1>you'd laugh at it. The fact that Carson Wentz when

0:28:02.440 --> 0:28:04.600
<v Speaker 1>his name come up, it wasn't laughed at by Frank Wright.

0:28:04.680 --> 0:28:06.800
<v Speaker 1>That tells you they're gonna they have to. They have

0:28:06.960 --> 0:28:09.040
<v Speaker 1>to because he was the thing that held their offense

0:28:09.080 --> 0:28:12.919
<v Speaker 1>back this year. Explain that t J. Watt is not

0:28:12.960 --> 0:28:17.280
<v Speaker 1>the old time single season sack record holder. Well, the

0:28:17.320 --> 0:28:19.920
<v Speaker 1>aborted snap, the dreaded aborted snap. He thought it was

0:28:19.960 --> 0:28:21.760
<v Speaker 1>a sack early in the game against the Ravens. It

0:28:21.760 --> 0:28:23.320
<v Speaker 1>would have given him twenty two and a half and

0:28:23.320 --> 0:28:25.240
<v Speaker 1>he would have broken it later in the game. But

0:28:25.840 --> 0:28:28.879
<v Speaker 1>because of the way that the play was scored, it

0:28:28.960 --> 0:28:30.800
<v Speaker 1>was a snap that hit the rear end of the

0:28:30.880 --> 0:28:33.720
<v Speaker 1>center and it wasn't technically a sack, and they appealed

0:28:33.720 --> 0:28:36.600
<v Speaker 1>to the Allied Sports Bureau and the Alized Sports Bureau

0:28:36.640 --> 0:28:40.400
<v Speaker 1>denied the appeal. So there isn't an extra sack, and

0:28:40.720 --> 0:28:44.440
<v Speaker 1>there's a certain irony and all of that because the

0:28:44.560 --> 0:28:47.680
<v Speaker 1>play that Brett Farve ran that that's an aborted snap.

0:28:47.760 --> 0:28:50.240
<v Speaker 1>To me, when Strahan got twenty two and a half,

0:28:50.320 --> 0:28:54.000
<v Speaker 1>I was just I was gonna ask you which one

0:28:54.120 --> 0:28:58.160
<v Speaker 1>is more of a sack in your opinion? Yeah, neither neither.

0:28:58.920 --> 0:29:02.320
<v Speaker 1>And hey, TJ did it in fifteen games, so he's

0:29:02.320 --> 0:29:04.120
<v Speaker 1>got that going for him. And and you know, this

0:29:04.160 --> 0:29:07.360
<v Speaker 1>whole debate about seventeen versus sixteen and should we put

0:29:07.400 --> 0:29:10.080
<v Speaker 1>an asterisk on these records, it really doesn't matter because

0:29:10.080 --> 0:29:13.040
<v Speaker 1>the season is now seventeen games. The NFL exercised its

0:29:13.040 --> 0:29:16.000
<v Speaker 1>prerogative to expand the season, so the records are going

0:29:16.040 --> 0:29:18.440
<v Speaker 1>to reset, and then it's going to expand to eighteen

0:29:18.680 --> 0:29:21.960
<v Speaker 1>and they're gonna reset again. When do you think eighteen rules?

0:29:22.000 --> 0:29:28.000
<v Speaker 1>Around twenty thirty at the latest, but possibly sooner. Even

0:29:28.040 --> 0:29:31.280
<v Speaker 1>though the current labor deal with the union doesn't expire

0:29:31.360 --> 0:29:33.120
<v Speaker 1>until the early part of the next decade, they can

0:29:33.160 --> 0:29:36.320
<v Speaker 1>do a new deal whenever they want. And I think

0:29:36.440 --> 0:29:40.040
<v Speaker 1>once they fully appreciate how much money is going to

0:29:40.120 --> 0:29:43.680
<v Speaker 1>flow from legalized gambling. And you know, New York came

0:29:43.720 --> 0:29:46.360
<v Speaker 1>online this week with mobile betting, and they've made a

0:29:46.400 --> 0:29:48.800
<v Speaker 1>ton of money already. As more and more states come

0:29:48.840 --> 0:29:50.920
<v Speaker 1>on board, the money keeps going up and up. How

0:29:50.960 --> 0:29:52.520
<v Speaker 1>do you make more money if you're the NFL and

0:29:52.560 --> 0:29:57.760
<v Speaker 1>the NFL Players Association, you increase inventory, you add another game,

0:29:58.080 --> 0:30:01.040
<v Speaker 1>and then I think they're going to start a adding teams.

0:30:01.280 --> 0:30:03.479
<v Speaker 1>It's not gonna be anytime soon, but I think as

0:30:03.480 --> 0:30:06.640
<v Speaker 1>they understand how much money can be derived one game

0:30:06.680 --> 0:30:09.720
<v Speaker 1>at a time, one week at a time, they're gonna

0:30:09.800 --> 0:30:12.000
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna want more. They're gonna want to give us more,

0:30:12.360 --> 0:30:14.880
<v Speaker 1>so there's more stuff people can bet off. I was

0:30:14.960 --> 0:30:18.840
<v Speaker 1>thinking about this. I think you were on the plane,

0:30:19.280 --> 0:30:22.480
<v Speaker 1>it might have been a red eye coming back from Denver,

0:30:23.600 --> 0:30:29.040
<v Speaker 1>and we were seated next to somebody affiliated with the

0:30:29.160 --> 0:30:33.880
<v Speaker 1>NFL who said, ask me any questions you want, and

0:30:33.960 --> 0:30:36.880
<v Speaker 1>at the time I wanted to know about adding an

0:30:36.920 --> 0:30:39.400
<v Speaker 1>extra playoff team and if we would be adding a

0:30:39.480 --> 0:30:42.840
<v Speaker 1>seventeenth game. Well, he said, at the time the person

0:30:42.880 --> 0:30:46.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking to, we're gonna be adding that extra playoff team.

0:30:47.280 --> 0:30:51.840
<v Speaker 1>So that's seven years ago. Next Monday, I come in

0:30:51.880 --> 0:30:56.840
<v Speaker 1>and I said, hey, got a reliable source, Mike. You

0:30:56.880 --> 0:31:00.720
<v Speaker 1>were there with me, but I don't think you reported it.

0:31:01.120 --> 0:31:03.200
<v Speaker 1>And I got put out there and all of a sudden,

0:31:03.280 --> 0:31:07.120
<v Speaker 1>somebody said the NFL said no, that's not true, and

0:31:07.160 --> 0:31:10.280
<v Speaker 1>I went, all, be damned, I'm in trouble. Year. But

0:31:10.360 --> 0:31:13.600
<v Speaker 1>it was the NFL who said, hey, ask me any

0:31:13.680 --> 0:31:16.680
<v Speaker 1>question you want. Well, I may have been asleep at

0:31:16.680 --> 0:31:19.240
<v Speaker 1>that moment, or I would have reported it so long.

0:31:19.240 --> 0:31:20.960
<v Speaker 1>It was a long day. Yes, it's a long day

0:31:21.000 --> 0:31:25.080
<v Speaker 1>and night and weekend, Denver. But they had wanted to

0:31:25.080 --> 0:31:27.760
<v Speaker 1>expand the playoff field for a while. They'd wanted to

0:31:27.800 --> 0:31:31.440
<v Speaker 1>expand this season for over a decade. The challenge was

0:31:31.520 --> 0:31:34.040
<v Speaker 1>getting the union to agree to it, and it was

0:31:34.080 --> 0:31:36.560
<v Speaker 1>difficult to get the players Association to agree to a

0:31:36.600 --> 0:31:41.200
<v Speaker 1>seventeenth game. But money talks, and the you know, that's

0:31:41.640 --> 0:31:44.640
<v Speaker 1>what's eventually going to get the union to agree to eighteen.

0:31:44.680 --> 0:31:47.200
<v Speaker 1>They'll come up with ways to make it safer, expand

0:31:47.240 --> 0:31:50.240
<v Speaker 1>the rosters, but it's gonna be more. It's gonna be more.

0:31:50.320 --> 0:31:51.959
<v Speaker 1>And you know, Dan, I don't know, can they justify

0:31:52.040 --> 0:31:55.400
<v Speaker 1>going to sixteen playoff teams half the league? Maybe they

0:31:55.400 --> 0:31:57.560
<v Speaker 1>can go to sixteen if they have thirty four teams,

0:31:57.560 --> 0:31:59.440
<v Speaker 1>Maybe that's the key. But I just think it's a

0:31:59.480 --> 0:32:03.120
<v Speaker 1>matter of time before there's no buys. There's sixteen teams

0:32:03.480 --> 0:32:07.640
<v Speaker 1>and everybody plays this opening weekend with eight games in

0:32:07.720 --> 0:32:11.080
<v Speaker 1>standalone windows instead of six. I'll leave you with this

0:32:11.360 --> 0:32:18.560
<v Speaker 1>if the Cowboys lose this weekend. If the Cowboys lose

0:32:18.600 --> 0:32:20.160
<v Speaker 1>this weekend, I think what's going to happen is they're

0:32:20.160 --> 0:32:21.960
<v Speaker 1>going to strike some sort of a deal with their

0:32:22.000 --> 0:32:24.880
<v Speaker 1>offensive coordinator Kellen Moore like they once had in place

0:32:24.920 --> 0:32:28.720
<v Speaker 1>with Jason Garrett, to take over eventually for Mike McCarthy,

0:32:28.720 --> 0:32:32.440
<v Speaker 1>and eventually will be whenever Jerry Jones decides it is

0:32:32.680 --> 0:32:35.360
<v Speaker 1>during the twenty twenty two season. Depends on how they

0:32:35.400 --> 0:32:38.880
<v Speaker 1>do after the twenty twenty two season during the next season,

0:32:38.920 --> 0:32:40.840
<v Speaker 1>but I think they don't want to let Kellen Moore

0:32:40.880 --> 0:32:43.240
<v Speaker 1>get away because other teams are going to be interested.

0:32:43.280 --> 0:32:45.960
<v Speaker 1>They want to groom him to become Tom Landry. Jerry

0:32:46.000 --> 0:32:48.160
<v Speaker 1>Jones tried to do it with Jason Garrett and maybe

0:32:48.400 --> 0:32:51.160
<v Speaker 1>waited too long with Jason Garrett before giving up. I

0:32:51.200 --> 0:32:52.520
<v Speaker 1>think they're going to try to do it again with

0:32:52.600 --> 0:32:54.920
<v Speaker 1>Kellen Moore, So that's the balance here. I don't think

0:32:54.960 --> 0:32:57.840
<v Speaker 1>McCarthy gets fired, but I think they're going to mobilize

0:32:57.840 --> 0:33:00.720
<v Speaker 1>to make sure that they can transition from McCarthy to

0:33:00.800 --> 0:33:03.240
<v Speaker 1>Kellen Moore the same way they transition from Wade Phillips

0:33:03.280 --> 0:33:05.719
<v Speaker 1>to Jason Garrett. I to have one more if Matthew

0:33:05.800 --> 0:33:10.959
<v Speaker 1>Stafford doesn't play well this weekend, well, well you know

0:33:11.640 --> 0:33:13.960
<v Speaker 1>they're not stuck with him contractually like they were with

0:33:14.040 --> 0:33:17.200
<v Speaker 1>Jared Goff. But I mean, think about this a year ago.

0:33:17.280 --> 0:33:20.040
<v Speaker 1>What a big deal. It was two first round picks,

0:33:20.080 --> 0:33:24.320
<v Speaker 1>a third round pick and Jared Goff for Matthew Stafford.

0:33:24.320 --> 0:33:26.200
<v Speaker 1>And someone explained it to me recently. You know what,

0:33:26.280 --> 0:33:29.560
<v Speaker 1>when you look at Matthew Stafford playing, the trade actually

0:33:29.720 --> 0:33:32.880
<v Speaker 1>was two first round picks, a third round pick and

0:33:33.080 --> 0:33:37.000
<v Speaker 1>Jared Goff for Jared Goff. Because how are they any

0:33:37.040 --> 0:33:39.040
<v Speaker 1>better off than they were with Jared Goff? The way

0:33:39.080 --> 0:33:42.040
<v Speaker 1>Matthew Staffords played eight touchdown passes, eight interceptions the last

0:33:42.040 --> 0:33:46.200
<v Speaker 1>four games. I think if they go one and out

0:33:46.560 --> 0:33:50.080
<v Speaker 1>and that's it and they lose on Monday night, you know,

0:33:50.920 --> 0:33:53.680
<v Speaker 1>Sean McVeigh will say all the right things, but we

0:33:53.800 --> 0:33:56.200
<v Speaker 1>know from his time with Jared Goff, what he thinks,

0:33:56.240 --> 0:33:58.200
<v Speaker 1>what he believes in what he says are two different things.

0:33:58.200 --> 0:34:00.640
<v Speaker 1>And at some point we know that they're all in.

0:34:00.840 --> 0:34:02.760
<v Speaker 1>They're always looking to get better, They're always looking for

0:34:02.800 --> 0:34:05.200
<v Speaker 1>the bright shiny object. I could see him fall out

0:34:05.200 --> 0:34:07.400
<v Speaker 1>of love with Matthew Stafford as quickly as he fell

0:34:07.440 --> 0:34:09.440
<v Speaker 1>out of love with Jared Goff. I lied, I had

0:34:09.480 --> 0:34:13.600
<v Speaker 1>one more. Is Ben Roethlisberger retiring or just retiring from

0:34:13.600 --> 0:34:16.439
<v Speaker 1>the Steelers? I think he's done. I think he's done,

0:34:16.440 --> 0:34:19.040
<v Speaker 1>and he knows he's done, although who knows. Hey, hey,

0:34:19.080 --> 0:34:22.000
<v Speaker 1>you know you win a Super Bowl? You know, not

0:34:22.080 --> 0:34:24.719
<v Speaker 1>that they will, but you get rejuvenate. I just he

0:34:24.760 --> 0:34:26.960
<v Speaker 1>can't play like he used to, and he finally realized

0:34:27.000 --> 0:34:29.080
<v Speaker 1>he can't play like he used to. And what he

0:34:29.560 --> 0:34:32.919
<v Speaker 1>If we would rank all thirty two starting quarterbacks top

0:34:32.960 --> 0:34:36.920
<v Speaker 1>to bottom, he'd be pretty damn close to the bottom

0:34:37.040 --> 0:34:39.560
<v Speaker 1>right now. And that may feed into their narrative this weekend,

0:34:39.600 --> 0:34:41.359
<v Speaker 1>and so be it if it does. But but if

0:34:41.400 --> 0:34:44.600
<v Speaker 1>you would go through quarterback by quarterback and prioritize one

0:34:44.600 --> 0:34:47.400
<v Speaker 1>over the other, he would be very very close to

0:34:47.480 --> 0:34:52.759
<v Speaker 1>number thirty two. Who would be beneath Ben Roethlisberger on

0:34:52.760 --> 0:34:55.799
<v Speaker 1>that list, Well, you know, it's hard to say. With

0:34:55.880 --> 0:34:58.839
<v Speaker 1>the guys who just have one year, it's hard to say,

0:34:59.120 --> 0:35:01.560
<v Speaker 1>like do you put You don't put a Trevor Lawrence

0:35:01.560 --> 0:35:03.520
<v Speaker 1>down there, do you? But I mean, think about who

0:35:03.520 --> 0:35:06.720
<v Speaker 1>would you put? What starting quarterback? Think of one starting quarterback?

0:35:06.719 --> 0:35:09.040
<v Speaker 1>Who wasn't a rookie this year that you would say,

0:35:10.440 --> 0:35:13.000
<v Speaker 1>what Darneld? But is he even a starter right now?

0:35:13.200 --> 0:35:15.480
<v Speaker 1>You know, Jimmy Garoppolo's down in that category as much

0:35:15.480 --> 0:35:17.319
<v Speaker 1>as forty nine ers fans don't want to admit it.

0:35:17.920 --> 0:35:20.359
<v Speaker 1>He can execute handoffs extremely well, and he did play

0:35:20.360 --> 0:35:21.919
<v Speaker 1>well against the Rams with the game on the line.

0:35:22.120 --> 0:35:25.879
<v Speaker 1>Jar Jared Goff, Jared Goff's down there. Jared Goff's down there,

0:35:26.120 --> 0:35:28.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, even though he beat the Cardinals somehow and

0:35:28.719 --> 0:35:31.520
<v Speaker 1>had three touchdown passes in that game. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's easy to say, oh, top ten quarterback, top

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<v Speaker 1>ten quarterback. Once you start rattling off names, you get

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<v Speaker 1>into the twenties pretty quickly, and there's some guys making

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of money that are down in the twenties,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, some some potential Hall of famers that

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<v Speaker 1>are creeping down toward thirty two. So I think Ben's

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<v Speaker 1>sufficiently self aware that that it's over and and I

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<v Speaker 1>think the way that it ended this year storybook already.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't want to disrupt that by starting a new

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<v Speaker 1>story with another team. Now I'm officially done with you, Mike,

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Thank you. Buy Mike Florio Pro football Talk

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<v Speaker 1>live show that precedes hours on Peacock. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>was wondering this, and it's not fair to Ben, but

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<v Speaker 1>if you would have said, hey, you're gonna end you're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to make the playoffs because the game with

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<v Speaker 1>the Chargers and Raiders would end with a tie, but

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<v Speaker 1>you go out as a winner as opposed to you're

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<v Speaker 1>a twelve and a half point underdog against Kansas City.

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<v Speaker 1>I always think, remember when Dan Marino, what was his

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<v Speaker 1>last game? Didn't he lose sixty two to seven? Oh? No,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was sixty two to seven. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>just if you could have said, hey, you want to

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<v Speaker 1>get rid of that one too soon? Yeah, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>let me take a break, run a little late here.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the play on the day. Check this out.

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<v Speaker 1>Five seconds, three seconds. I'll guard down the lane of

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<v Speaker 1>bulla past the Houser up. It's in, It's in. Joey

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<v Speaker 1>Houser made the winner. Michigan stay seventy one in Minnesota's

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<v Speaker 1>got sixty nine. That's courtesy of Liarfield. I AMG College

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<v Speaker 1>tenth ranks Sparty as one nine in a row, longest

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<v Speaker 1>winning streak since eighteen twenty nineteen season. That is your

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<v Speaker 1>you by Mercedes Benz. Make sure you enter. Seventy five

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<v Speaker 1>thousand people have entered. More people have entered this year,

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<v Speaker 1>and we still have a few weeks left than all

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<v Speaker 1>of last year with the contest we had so thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for your participation. And no, Seaton is not going

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to take anybody with him cross country

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<v Speaker 1>in the sprinter van to take it out to the

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<v Speaker 1>super Bowl, but we will let you know there will

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<v Speaker 1>be tour stops with Seaton and the French Kid coming

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<v Speaker 1>to a town near you. Hello, Ames, Yeah, Dan Patrick

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<v Speaker 1>by February second, orcedis Benz the best so City or nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>Dan Marino's last game was indeed sixty two to seven

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<v Speaker 1>loss against the Jacksonville Jaguars who Fred Taylor and company

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Brunel. They ran all over the Dolphins that day. Yeah, Paul,

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<v Speaker 1>yeahd In January fifteenth, two thousand, Marino made the playoffs

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<v Speaker 1>with Miami his last three seasons, even though his numbers

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<v Speaker 1>weren't great, and they won their first playoff game get Seattle.

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<v Speaker 1>But then they just got boat raced sixty two to seven.

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<v Speaker 1>Marino had ninety five yards passing in a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>picks at home. Yikes. But if you could go out

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<v Speaker 1>with a win, but you don't you don't go to

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<v Speaker 1>the playoffs, or you go to the playoffs and you

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<v Speaker 1>get blown out by Kansas City. So if you have

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<v Speaker 1>Dan Marino, we don't make the playoffs that year, but

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<v Speaker 1>we have a nice clean win at home in week

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen and you have a nice day and then you

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<v Speaker 1>right off to the sunset. Yeah, I just I was

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<v Speaker 1>just wondering about that with Ben that. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't wish for anybody to retire. Nobody wants to retire,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. Steve Young told me that years ago. He said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we don't want to, but you know, sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>you're asked to or forced two or injuries. Yeah, Seaton,

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to ask, at what point though in

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<v Speaker 1>the with that sort of theoretical question, at what point

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<v Speaker 1>during the season do you know you're out of the playoffs,

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<v Speaker 1>Like do you have a chance to get in and

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<v Speaker 1>then you don't make it, or are you sort of

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<v Speaker 1>it's a struggling season, you know you're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>be in the playoffs. No, it's this scenario this year.

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<v Speaker 1>It's exactly this year that we win the game and

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<v Speaker 1>then we wait and then the Raiders Chargers ends in

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<v Speaker 1>a tie and then we don't make the playoffs. But

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<v Speaker 1>we did everything that we could do to get in there,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's a shame, but we won't be in the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>And Ben, thank you. There's got to be something real

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<v Speaker 1>tortuous about I don't know. Is it getting in one

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<v Speaker 1>more time? Like, all right, this is it, we got

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<v Speaker 1>one more shot. I know you do want to get in,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just you don't. I don't know. I'm rooting for

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<v Speaker 1>a close game. How's that. I want Ben to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to play where he's proud of his performance this weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>How about a competitive game? Yes, Ton, I think you

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<v Speaker 1>want to end with that clean win. As much as

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<v Speaker 1>it would be nice to say that you got into

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<v Speaker 1>the playoffs, but if you're gonna get killed in the playoffs,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like Sugary Leonard or other boxers. They don't know

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<v Speaker 1>when to call it quits. And you'll make you way

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<v Speaker 1>finally to the middle way to a heavyweight championship out

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<v Speaker 1>and you get knocked out in the third round and

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<v Speaker 1>you're bleeding and you're a mess. Is that the way

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<v Speaker 1>you want to end where you finally realize you've got

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<v Speaker 1>nothing left to give him the ring? Yes, I totally disagree.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to make the playoffs. He given my fans

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<v Speaker 1>some hope. And you know, as bad as Ben Roethlisberger's

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<v Speaker 1>past years, Ben, and we remember they were weren't they

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<v Speaker 1>eleven and oh at one point last year? Yeah, they

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<v Speaker 1>were really competitive last year. And his numbers weren't great.

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<v Speaker 1>At least he could say, like, you know what, I

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<v Speaker 1>always was a competitive He never had a losing season

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<v Speaker 1>as a quarterback. Yeah, and you know there's not home.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's say you get blown out by twenty four. We're there,

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<v Speaker 1>We're there. We gave him an extra weeks about three interceptions,

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<v Speaker 1>a pick six. You know you're dejected, slumped over walking

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<v Speaker 1>off the field. I'll give you one that still bothers me.

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<v Speaker 1>Walter Payton's last year in the NFL, he had the

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<v Speaker 1>retirement ceremony in Week sixteen, I think against Seattle and

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<v Speaker 1>his kumbay. Yeah, Walter, there was a very good Bears

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<v Speaker 1>team and they disappointed two years in a row. His

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<v Speaker 1>final play was like a third and eight. He caught

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<v Speaker 1>the ball and was one yard short, got knocked out

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<v Speaker 1>of bounds, was underneath the opponent's bench. I think it

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<v Speaker 1>was the Redskins at the time. It was the worst

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<v Speaker 1>way to go out. He was one yard short of

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<v Speaker 1>a first down that they needed to try to win

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<v Speaker 1>the game, and it was awful, but it was nice

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<v Speaker 1>that they were in the playoffs. Seaton, did you have

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<v Speaker 1>something to add? Ben has rings? Yeah, that changes it

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit. Yea interesting topic though. Andrea Kramer is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be on the broadcast for the Cowboys in

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<v Speaker 1>the Niners. She will join us. She's in the Pro

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