1 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to PM mood then No Talking Points, no Bullshit 2 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: podcast that takes you behind the curtain, off the red carpet, 3 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 1: and to the front lines of progress with change makers 4 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: and innovators that are doing the work to shift our 5 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: culture and expand their social impact. I am so excited 6 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: to welcome to PM mood friend of mine and friend 7 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: of the show, Angelica Ross, who is a actress, writer, producer, 8 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: all around amazing badass. My god, I don't even know 9 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: how long I've been following your career now, but it's 10 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: been it's been a delight to see your trajectory, Angelica, 11 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: Like honestly, it warms my heart on a day to 12 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: day basis. But you know, we've been changing up how 13 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: we start PM Moods because we're in the midst of 14 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: a global pandemic. And when I had started this show, 15 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 1: it was supposed to be lighthearted talking to folks about 16 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: how you're utilizing your platforms to increase your social impact, 17 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: which you have done all the time, um, you know, 18 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: since the beginning of your work. But just talk to 19 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: talk to us about where you are right now, where 20 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 1: you are quarantined and how are you doing well. First 21 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 1: of all, I am blessed and highly favored. Um as 22 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: my grandmother who would say, UM, but yes, I right now, 23 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: I am really focused on all of the blessings and 24 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: being grateful for everything that is going right right now. UM, 25 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: I'm trying to um. You know, it's difficult for everyone, 26 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 1: but in many many of us can look at our circumstances, 27 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: I think and say, things could be worse, you know, 28 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 1: And so I'm definitely, uh, just grateful for what I 29 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: can be grateful for, which is my new home that 30 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: I bought here in Georgia, thank you very much. So 31 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: it was I'm a first time home buyer and um, 32 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: so that was you know, I have to be honest, 33 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 1: like it was such a big milestone for me to 34 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 1: purchase a home. It meant so many things to me 35 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: as a black trans woman to sort of start putting 36 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: these roots down and you know, getting I guess, a 37 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 1: piece of the American dream. Um. You know. But the 38 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: thing is is that, like I'm like, how do I 39 00:02:52,639 --> 00:03:00,080 Speaker 1: feel irresponsible when I not only put aside months of 40 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 1: you know, reserves for all of my bills or whatever, 41 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: but I also saved for my down payment. I also 42 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 1: not only had you know, my one main job of 43 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: you know, filming an American horror story lined up, but 44 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 1: I also had, you know, just speaking engagements, personal appearances, 45 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 1: a lot of different things, you know, to add up 46 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 1: to whatever keeping me busy and keeping the bills paid 47 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 1: and all of that. All of it got completely shut down. 48 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: And so you know, I'm fortunate enough to I took 49 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 1: advantage of every program that was out there, as far 50 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: as like delay my mortgage for months, delay my car 51 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 1: payments for a few months. You know, I'm just doing 52 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: everything I can to sort of brace for this moment. 53 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: But I also realize, um, you know, I talk spirits speaking. 54 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: You know, I feel like these challenges come up for 55 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: a reason, and they come up for a certain time, 56 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: and you know, America has the reckoning that is just 57 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: we've been like putting all for trying to put off, 58 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 1: for trying to pretend with things and with drugs and 59 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: with just distractions or whatever. But you know, we're getting 60 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: to a place where it's not letting us distract be distracted, 61 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 1: because guess what, you got to sit with yourself half 62 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: the time in the house. So whatever it is that 63 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: you're not dealing with, whatever excuses you're making for you know, situations, 64 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 1: whatever things you've taken for granted, people, you've taken for 65 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 1: granted relationships. Um, I mean just I think this is 66 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: a time to reevaluate everything everything. What are you doing 67 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,359 Speaker 1: right now? I mean I would assume that this is 68 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: probably the first time, and god knows how long that 69 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 1: you've probably been sitting still, right, I mean you've been 70 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: You've been filming pos, you work then you know American 71 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: Horror Story, all the projects that you have in between, 72 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: trans tech, the speaking engagement. So what are you know? 73 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 1: How does it feel, I should say, first to sit 74 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: still in your new home and actually be in your 75 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 1: in your place and make and make a home because 76 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 1: you know you're you are an incredible Hollywood hustler right 77 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 1: then doing the month. So so what does it feel 78 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 1: like to be home, to be to be stationary. I'm 79 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: so grateful again for my Buddhist practice because it keeps 80 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: bringing me back to this perspective of duality of you know, 81 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: the good and the bad, you know the advantage of 82 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 1: the disadvantage, And so I feel like I'm constantly just 83 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:38,559 Speaker 1: in a heightened state of awareness around that. So being 84 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:43,359 Speaker 1: in my house, man, what an accomplishment? What? Um? What 85 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 1: um a reflection because I always believe, again from my 86 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 1: spiritual practice, that your immediate external environment is a reflection 87 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: of your internal environment, and it takes a lot of 88 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: work to get those things to, you know, kind of 89 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: reflect how you wanted to reflect. And so I look 90 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: around in my house and you know, I think about 91 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: the words of your home rising up to greet you 92 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: and all of those things, and I'm in the process 93 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:13,919 Speaker 1: of making all of that happen. And at the same time, Wow, 94 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: I just have such mixed feelings of just my privilege, 95 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: you know, in the situation, but then my privilege being 96 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: so thinly veiled that I'm one foot away from, you know, 97 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: a disaster myself, you know. So it's it's it's it's 98 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 1: I'm alive. And I say that in ways of saying 99 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:43,119 Speaker 1: both I'm grateful I'm alive, but also like I think, 100 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: you know, I remember seeing Vanessa Williams on the celebrity 101 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 1: RuPaul Drag Race and she was just talking about like 102 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: just being back in that time and how you know, 103 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: a new challenge sometimes makes you feel alive, you know, 104 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:56,919 Speaker 1: And I'm just like, you know, I feel alive in 105 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 1: these ways where I'm not in a state where I 106 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 1: can sort of kick back room and true truly rest. Yes, 107 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 1: this is a time to rest. I think this is 108 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: also just a time to reflect and very just just 109 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: to reflect, and I'm really holding myself to the fire 110 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: to sort of take advantage of this time and think 111 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: about also the concept to who much has given, much 112 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: is expected. And so as I put into place all 113 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: the things to protect myself and my family and my 114 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: circumstances in my home, I'm blessed and I realize those things. 115 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: And so if things go well and I can get myself, 116 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: you know, taken care of and solidified, then my focus 117 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 1: is always to go back to the beginning, which is service. 118 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: You know, I'm someone who believes that success always begins 119 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: with service. That's it began with trans Tach, it began 120 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 1: before trans Tech, with the trans Life Center that I 121 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: worked at. It began before that doing HIV, you know, educate, 122 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: peer education in high school, whatever the things is. Is 123 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: having this heart of service. We now have to kind 124 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: of divert our attention and that's what I'm just doing 125 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: right now. And it's just really diverting my attention on 126 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: from all the things that maybe don't matter as much 127 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: in this moment and trying to show up and matter 128 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: more in this moment in ways that truly matter. How 129 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 1: have you found you know, because we we what we 130 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 1: are learning, right and what you're talking about, this reckoning 131 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: that America is experienced, right, the world is experiencing. We 132 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: have abused this planet, We have abuse one another. We 133 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: are seeing the manifestation right of it of what it 134 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: means to be selfish and neglectual, and we are we 135 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: are seeing which vulnerable populations are are most affected right. 136 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: Those that we have been dismissive of and have believed 137 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 1: them to be expendable have largely been people of color, 138 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: and we know that within our community, within the lgbt 139 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 1: QI community, that those are some of the most vulnerable people, 140 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 1: trans women of color being some of the most vulnerable people. 141 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 1: What have you been hearing with regard to how folks 142 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: in the lgbtq I community are faring in this moment? 143 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: Because we're talking about the economic and health vulnerabilities of 144 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 1: black people of Latin X people, but we haven't done 145 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: deep dives into other marginalized communities. So what have you 146 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 1: been hearing and what do you know to be true 147 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: that we should Frankly, as you have been a leader 148 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: and an activist for quite some time, what do you 149 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 1: think we should be talking about in this moment with 150 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: regard to our community to day? Well, I definitely have 151 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 1: been hearing about a lot of struggle financially speaking, as 152 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 1: well as mental health struggles, because you know, you thought 153 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: people were struggling before with anxiety and depression and all 154 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: of the things that are triggered by things. So take 155 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: a situation like COVID nineteen and that just really exacerbates 156 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 1: many folks situation. And so I'm definitely hearing that. What 157 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 1: I'm also hearing and seeing is community taking care of 158 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: each other, because that's always been the moo, especially when 159 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 1: you're talking about black trains and queer folks. We've always 160 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 1: had to take care of each other when the system 161 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: has not taken care of us. And so that has 162 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: really just only further kind of gone into play. And 163 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 1: you know, I I sometimes am feeling quite um dysphoric, 164 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 1: and not in my gender identity. Um, I'm feeling so 165 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: such a dysphoria being in this country and turning on 166 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: the TV and watching people we're supposed to trust lie 167 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 1: to our faces, um avoid accountability UM and or speak 168 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: half truth in favor of personal and UM professional or 169 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: corporate interests, you know, UM and so you really can't 170 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: my my, my, my antennas are so heightened right now 171 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:56,679 Speaker 1: because I know how people slip things in It's just 172 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 1: like the how our government makes a bill and then 173 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 1: slip things in there while you're not looking, or are 174 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 1: things that you don't quite understand. And so to be 175 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 1: in an environment where you can't trust your leaders, and 176 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: you can't trust the system, and you can't trust the 177 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: people who are meant to protect you, it is inevitable. 178 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 1: It is of critical importance that these marginalized community create 179 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:36,959 Speaker 1: their own systems. And that's really the call of Black 180 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 1: Lives Matter. You know, I feel like I'm continually standing 181 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 1: behind that Moniker to make it true for all of us, 182 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: to make it true for our entire community. And you know, 183 00:12:54,040 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: it's it's just unfortunate because these community, these these most 184 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 1: marginalized communities, don't have a lot to give. But they 185 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: are the communities that I see giving the most when 186 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 1: it comes to this. They're the communities that I see 187 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 1: speaking up the vote most and putting themselves in the 188 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: line of fire when they have the least amount of 189 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: protections and the least amount of privilege in the situation. So, um, 190 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:23,439 Speaker 1: you know what we need to be doing in this 191 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: situation is if we are tired of looking and scrolling 192 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 1: on social media and looking at another damn video of 193 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: you know, police brutalizing black bodies, or see another hashtag 194 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 1: come up? You know, um, is it Brianna Taylor? Ye? 195 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: And you know, and and even with Brianna Taylor, I'm 196 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: gonna name another one, Nina Pop Yeah, you know, a 197 00:13:54,240 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 1: black trans woman. And for some reason we don't understand 198 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 1: that your humanity's off when you can rally a one 199 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 1: around one and not all three of those people right 200 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: around a mod around Brianna and around Nina. And those 201 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: are just the three most recent, all murdered within weeks 202 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: of each other, right but why well, well yes, maybe 203 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: in the sense of, you know, the sad part about 204 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: Brianna Taylor's story is we're hearing about this now. This 205 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: happened actually back in March, right, and a mod we 206 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: heard about now, and that happened in February. Oh exactly, 207 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, So likely within you know, 208 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: within weeks, meaning of them being taken. But then how 209 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: we learn about it? Right, Like, why not in that moment? 210 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: How that's the that's how are we learning about it? 211 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: And the reality is we're learning about it from who 212 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: each other yep. And so we are the we are 213 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: the news source that we trust, we are the pharmaceutical 214 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 1: companies that we trust, we are all of the different 215 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 1: level of authorities that we trust. And I think that 216 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: we need to take it just like those days of 217 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: Black Panther, where we got to take it to mean 218 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: about protecting, educating, and you know, all these taking responsibility 219 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: for everyone in the flock, regardless of identity, sexual orientation. 220 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: We have to be willing to confront this misogyny and 221 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: patriarchy and that for right now, that's a really hard 222 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: part point for us. Right now, we can I can 223 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: see it in social media. I see it in so 224 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: many places that that's like a sticking place for us. 225 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 1: And so what's going to help us get beyond that 226 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: is every single last one of you brilliant black cists 227 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: women are going to really have to stand up and 228 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: stand next to your LGBTQ plus black folks and together 229 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: the resound a message that is almost that is louder 230 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 1: than the NABLEACP that is louder than these things that 231 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: because the LEACP. Right now, I'm like, I'm I'm to 232 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: being keeping one hundred like I'm mad. I'm mad because 233 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 1: I've been in your zone. I've been at some meetings. 234 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: You called me into your space and you I basically 235 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: almost was there for a photo ops. How I feel 236 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: right because I you know, at this town hall, we're 237 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: talking about real things, and we talk about certain things, 238 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 1: and I'm trying to get meetings, and I can see 239 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: it's an internal struggle with who with the older black 240 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: folks in the community who are in the older leadership. 241 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: So either we're going to really do this work or 242 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: it's going to be a struggle. Because I'm I'm I'm 243 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: actually a little worried at this point because there's a 244 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: lot of real facts and things that are happening right 245 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 1: now that just add up to things that people are 246 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: just want turning it. They're not wanting to add it 247 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: up because if they do, that means you'll have to 248 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:07,119 Speaker 1: do something about it. You'll paying attention, you know what 249 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Paying attention to things, right, paying attention. There's 250 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 1: a price to it because if you're gonna if you're 251 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:17,199 Speaker 1: going to provide a necessary spotlight on an issue on 252 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: a people, right then it's going to force you to 253 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 1: do something about it. Recognition is only part of the 254 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: pathway to justice. Right Like, so we can recognize the 255 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:34,239 Speaker 1: fact that certain people Pole's deaths are upheld and are 256 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: discussed and our headlines while others are not right they are. 257 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 1: The sad thing is that our oppression and our deaths 258 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: are entertainment for white America. So any movies they want 259 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: to award or green lit like have to do right 260 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 1: our oppression and the murder of our bodies. They have 261 00:17:57,080 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: to do a certain narrative. And I, you know, there's 262 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: certain movies I just can't watch them anymore because I 263 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: refuse to see all this diversity in Into the Woods 264 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 1: and motherfucking creek scars use my language and all these 265 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 1: creatures that they can imagine in these stories, but they 266 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: can't imagine Black people in those stories. They can't imagine, um, 267 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: you know, create anything other than our oppression and are 268 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:26,199 Speaker 1: killing us. And not only that, like, it pisces me 269 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 1: off that folks look yes, creating entertainment and storytelling definitely 270 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 1: changing hearts and minds is part of it. Well, when 271 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 1: we're talking about going up and against the system where 272 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 1: they don't give a damn, and when I'm telling you 273 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 1: don't give a damn. Listen, Jay Love, Listen, love you 274 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: Jeff Qute performance at the Super Bowl Girl, But like 275 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 1: that wasn't in alignment with the front that we was 276 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: putting up. You understand, I'm saying, with all the all 277 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 1: the black artists and major artists, Rihanna, everybody else, you 278 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 1: saw the stances they were taking. So then you try 279 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 1: to make a statement and then put children in cages 280 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: on the stage, and that went over all the white 281 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 1: people's heads. Under what I'm saying that that didn't change 282 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: the damn thing about the situation. So, like you know, 283 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 1: we have got to get to a place where we're 284 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 1: really prepared for what's happening. They're lying to our faces, 285 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 1: they're making the laws and breaking them. At the same time, 286 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 1: you have white people who are busting into state buildings, 287 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: buildings with arms armed. If black people dared, we know 288 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:33,199 Speaker 1: what happens when we dare to be our full and 289 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 1: complete cells right and show up as full and complete 290 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 1: humans right that are not asking permission to exist, but 291 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: just existing on our own accord. We know what happens, right, 292 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: But the thing is, we're not going to be able 293 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 1: to disarm because the moment you say, um about disarming America, 294 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 1: then the white people go get very loud and crazy 295 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: about the right to bear arms. Yes, but here's here's 296 00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:01,120 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Sometimes when folks abuse things, those rights 297 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: should be taken Those rights should be taken away. Meaning 298 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 1: like America, our stats aren't doing well for us in 299 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: the sense of mass shootings, in the sense of violence 300 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 1: and all these different things. Maybe the right to bear 301 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:17,360 Speaker 1: arms needs to be earned. Maybe there's you know some okay, 302 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:19,360 Speaker 1: like you can do this, but we got to now 303 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: earn this right back by showing what are the reasons 304 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,719 Speaker 1: for you to even have these sort of weapons, you know, 305 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: And there's certain weapons that just don't need to be 306 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: in everybody, in the everyday person's hands. So there's there's 307 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 1: a conversation we're not willing to have because people are like, oh, 308 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: right to bear arms. So okay, I'm a Buddhist and 309 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 1: I'm trying to stay away from the violence and the 310 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 1: things as much as possible, But we also have to 311 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,919 Speaker 1: recognize the playing field and environment we are in, and 312 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: so as non white America. You know, um, I don't 313 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 1: know if it makes that much sense to keep allowing 314 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: white people to stop pile weapons like this and we're not. So, 315 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 1: you know, that's funny because this conversation that has now 316 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 1: come up on my political podcast Woke f on a 317 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:11,120 Speaker 1: regular basis, which is that many of us who believe 318 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 1: in progressivism, believe in gun control, believe you know it 319 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: to some extent. I have never had full belief in 320 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 1: the Second Amendment. The Second Amendment was created in a 321 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: time when AAR fifteens and machine guns and all these 322 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 1: things didn't created for white people, the safe so that 323 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,880 Speaker 1: the negroes didn't overthrow their stuff so they can protect 324 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:33,880 Speaker 1: their property, and that's where the police came from too. 325 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: So so so it's like it was never meant for us, 326 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 1: and it was never meant for the current type of 327 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: system that society that we're living in. But on the 328 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: flip of that, I'm saying, when I see these pictures 329 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 1: of these militia, these white Trump militia, storm in these 330 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: government buildings, right going into a Starbucks with a bazooka 331 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,239 Speaker 1: on your back, what is the what the point of 332 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 1: that is intimidation, the point the point of that is oppression. 333 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:05,919 Speaker 1: And so at what point do black people say, you 334 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: know what, they're killing us any fucking way, right like 335 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:13,679 Speaker 1: they are doing the most anyway. Maybe it's time that 336 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 1: we begin to exercise our rights. And you saw that 337 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 1: after the two men in the Ahmad Augury murder were arrested. 338 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 1: We saw black militia now are guarding his home, where 339 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 1: where his family is, and they have the same weaponry 340 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,439 Speaker 1: on and the cops were afraid to come down the 341 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: street stay your ass at day. Then you weren't. You 342 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: weren't nowhere for the last two months. Well, I mean, 343 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,640 Speaker 1: and I think the biggest rule that I heard come 344 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 1: out of somewhere from someone that said something, was about 345 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,919 Speaker 1: the fact that you should not be policing a neighborhood 346 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 1: you're scared of. Like if you don't know how to 347 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 1: talk to the people you're serving and protecting, you have 348 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 1: no right to be serving and protecting that environment. If 349 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: you're shaking, you know, people are just our skin tone 350 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,439 Speaker 1: is a threat to you, just at one, you know. 351 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:10,439 Speaker 1: So I do believe, I do believe unfort you know, 352 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 1: I hate I just I hate to say it because 353 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 1: you know, that's just not that's not it's not where 354 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 1: I live. But at the same time, UM, I know 355 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 1: one thing. I love me. Let me tell you something. 356 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 1: I know one thing. The higher that I move up 357 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: and the more things I do, the more I want 358 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 1: to keep somebody with me and around me. Do you 359 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 1: understand I'm saying the one The more I need to 360 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: keep certain folks around me that can make sure don't 361 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 1: nothing pop off. Right, I'm a black trans woman, I 362 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: know so instead you know, so I just you know, Um, 363 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: I'm a prayer. I'm praying about it. I'm praying stronger 364 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 1: about it, and I'm trying to show up in my 365 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: leadership in certain ways. But that's what I mean. Is that. So, 366 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 1: whether it's me doing trans tech, whether it's me building, um, 367 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 1: you know, an army of black LGBTQ plus creatives to 368 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 1: sort of re claim the narratives that have been told 369 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: as well as like sort of filling the gaps that 370 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,479 Speaker 1: are missing. Um, you know, in both non scripted and 371 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 1: scripted television. I'm doing my part. I'm doing what I 372 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: know how to do, whether it's hitting that stage and 373 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 1: talking to you know, college students, who are about to 374 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: start off and and really need some like a spark 375 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:29,400 Speaker 1: to understand their purpose beyond some degree, or whether it's 376 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 1: talking to people in a boardroom and getting them to 377 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:36,120 Speaker 1: recognize their power and responsibility on making sure that their 378 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 1: corporation and their brand is making the right kind of 379 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 1: footprint or you know, fingerprint on our planet and on 380 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:44,679 Speaker 1: our society. I'm doing every any and all the things 381 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:48,159 Speaker 1: like I can do. And part of doing it, or 382 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 1: part of being what they would call a level five leader, 383 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: is leaders who create other leaders, that's all. So I'm 384 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: not just trying to create a bunch of people following me. 385 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 1: And that's what the damn I feel like it's happening 386 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 1: on the side, on the right or with everything is 387 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: about just follow me blindly, without checking, without fact checking, 388 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: without anything. Because if you took two seconds to fact 389 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 1: check one thing you would see that our president is, 390 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 1: which is a would unravel. It would it would unravel? 391 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: You know? That's that's that's that's the fact. You know 392 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 1: what do you think, um Angelica, because you have again 393 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 1: you have been an activist, you have worn that hat 394 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:33,439 Speaker 1: since the beginning of your Hollywood career. Do you think 395 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:40,360 Speaker 1: that is it a personal responsibility that each each person 396 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 1: has to make for themselves. Or do you think that 397 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:48,639 Speaker 1: when you work yourself into these positions, into these large 398 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:52,439 Speaker 1: platforms where you have, you know, hundreds of thousands of 399 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 1: followers and millions of people watching your shows, do you 400 00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 1: think that more actors, more actresses, more people of prominence 401 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 1: should really be taking on the position of activists as well, 402 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 1: because it's you know, in this space, government clearly it 403 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:14,880 Speaker 1: will under Trump is the problem, but what is you know, 404 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 1: what do you think the responsibility of other folks in 405 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 1: outside industries in Hollywood is to help usher in the 406 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 1: change we really want to see. So I will answer 407 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 1: that by first by saying, like, I've learned an alternative 408 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 1: sort of definition for the word responsibility, and that is 409 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:39,680 Speaker 1: to have the ability to respond. And so I think 410 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,679 Speaker 1: that I am working as hard as I can to 411 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:47,679 Speaker 1: stay away from the should and telling people what they 412 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 1: should and shouldn't be doing. However, I would encourage people 413 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:58,400 Speaker 1: to take responsibility for their platforms and if that's the 414 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 1: least that you can do is take responsibility for your platform. 415 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:10,439 Speaker 1: So when Amanda seals, I think kind of read justin 416 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:15,439 Speaker 1: Timberlake for posting about amand but closing the common closing 417 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 1: his comments because the comments are racist. But so you're 418 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:25,440 Speaker 1: not taking responsibility, and I'm not. This is not about 419 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: taking blame. This is about taking responsibility, which is taking 420 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 1: your ability to respond because guess what, white man in 421 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 1: your castle, you have some ability. You got some time 422 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 1: to respond, and so should could you know? Those are 423 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 1: all the different things. But I think that another thing 424 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,119 Speaker 1: I wanted to address when what you were saying is like, 425 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,439 Speaker 1: you know, when you work yourself into these positions, And 426 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 1: I want to like cycle that back a second, because 427 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 1: I know for my own self, like, yep, I work 428 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 1: my ass off. But to be real, when we're talking 429 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,160 Speaker 1: about this, this this spot, like when we're talking about 430 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:05,399 Speaker 1: this platform, I didn't do this by myself. And so 431 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 1: it is a responsibility to your fans, to each and 432 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 1: every single one of your fans, because I am a celebrity. 433 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 1: And when I say that now, that's because I have 434 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 1: reconciled with that initially being a four letter dirty word 435 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 1: to me because of who and what celebrities were known 436 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:34,400 Speaker 1: to be and known for. But in one of my books, 437 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,199 Speaker 1: I have the Heart of the Load of Suture, one 438 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 1: of my Buddhist books. It says that it says tells 439 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 1: me to become a celebrity of the mystic Law. So 440 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 1: that and what that means is basically, in the Mystic Law, 441 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: we just talk about the fact that no matter who 442 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: you are, what your challenges are, what your identities are, 443 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 1: you two can sort of blossom into this amazing thing 444 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 1: of overcoming all of your challenges. And so it says 445 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 1: become a celebrity of that mystic law, which means I 446 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 1: am a celebrated example of what it means to profoundly 447 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 1: overcome challenges. That's why Angelica Ross is celebrated so hard. 448 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 1: That's why people stay me so hard, not just because 449 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 1: I'm pretty, not because you know of these certain things 450 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,719 Speaker 1: those who stand me or if you know. And so 451 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 1: that's where I want to make sure that, Yeah, I 452 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 1: own I'm a celebrity. But what am I celebrated for? Oh? Oh, 453 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 1: I love that I am. I taking responsibility for my platform? Right? Right? 454 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 1: Do I deserve to be celebrated? M And those are 455 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 1: just questions I think that we as fans going forward 456 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 1: should ask ourselves, correct, should we be celebrating this? Dude? 457 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 1: I don't know? Right? Should they should they be should 458 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 1: they be bestowed the honor that we are giving them? Right? Right? 459 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's very deep. That is the yes. 460 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 1: That's the question that celebrities need to be asking themselves, 461 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 1: and we need to be asking of the people that 462 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 1: we are presenting with the honor and elevating. The last 463 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 1: question that I will ask you is the question that 464 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 1: I ask everyone who joins me on PM mood, which is, 465 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 1: how do you get in the mood to change the world? 466 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 1: How do you get into that space? I mean, well, 467 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 1: that's easy obviously for me. It is my chanting practice 468 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 1: because I chant every morning somewhere around seven am, and 469 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 1: I chant every evening at six pm. So every day, 470 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 1: basically what I'm doing is I'm looking myself in the 471 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 1: mirror and I'm taking a very profoundly deep assessment of 472 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 1: the reflection, both in the morning and when I've taken 473 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 1: on all the drama and everything that I've taken on 474 00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 1: to face in the world, to clearly see what those 475 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 1: things are not to sort of bring that into my 476 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 1: evening or bring that into my night. So how I 477 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 1: prepare myself is chanting. That if the practice of chanting 478 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 1: for other people it's meditation, you know, it can be 479 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 1: various things, but I would say the more specific you are, 480 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 1: just like smart goals, you know are specific and that's 481 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 1: what makes them, you know, great goals. So the more 482 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 1: specific I am about my preparation, the more that I 483 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,719 Speaker 1: also reflect to myself that I'm not just doing this 484 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 1: for myself. This is not just about me accomplishing my 485 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 1: own selfish desires and needs and what have you, But 486 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 1: this is also about me being there for other people 487 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 1: and being able to recognize when is it time to 488 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 1: snap out yourself, snap out of your own circumstances and 489 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 1: see somebody next to you just need your shoulder, or 490 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 1: needs your um guidance, or needs a word, or needs 491 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 1: some some kind of support that you absolutely have the 492 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 1: capacity to give in this moment. Beautiful Angelica Ross, you 493 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 1: are a treasure and you you you deserve every bit 494 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 1: of celebration, um and and spotlight because you you are 495 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 1: doing so much to educate as well as entertained, and 496 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 1: it is it's remarkable to see and edertainment and I 497 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 1: can I stand and have for many years and will 498 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 1: continue to thank you, appreciate you. Stay safe all right, 499 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 1: by bye bye, Thanks for listening to this week's PM Mood. 500 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 1: My political podcast, Woke a f Daily is on Patreon 501 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 1: for just five dollars a month. 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