1 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: Welcome Bird Gang. On today's show, Trevor Lawrence. What do 2 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: we know about the quarterback the Cardinals will face on Sunday? 3 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: What's he doing right? Where has he struggled through the 4 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 1: first two games of his NFL career. Perhaps no one 5 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: is better equipped to answer those questions than Isaiah Simmons, 6 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 1: Lawrence's former teammates. Then again, maybe nuts also Vance Joseph 7 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: is not happy. It's Cardinals Cover two, Episode four seventy one, 8 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: and it starts now. Welcome to Cardinals Cover two with 9 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: Craig Grigolou and Mike Jarecki. Cardinals Cover two is presented 10 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:45,919 Speaker 1: by Hyunday, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals, and by 11 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals Podcasts. Visit acy Cardinals dot Com, Slash podcasts. 12 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: Going for Hopkins One hand to catch at a touchdown, 13 00:00:55,040 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins. Here's Craig Griolou and Mike Jarecki. So we 14 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: always look for storylines ahead of a game. Coaches, players, 15 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: they look at film. We look at storylines. Two main 16 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 1: storylines and both revolve around Trevor Lawrence. The first MJ 17 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray Trevor Lawrence a couple. The first overall draft picks, 18 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 1: and what we experienced what now two years ago, is 19 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:25,960 Speaker 1: what the Jaguars are experiencing here in twenty twenty one, 20 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:27,960 Speaker 1: and that is you get it off to a little 21 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: bit of a rough start. Everything goes well in high school, 22 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 1: everything goes well in college, and then all of a sudden, 23 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: you hit the pro level and you realize that, yeah, 24 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:38,759 Speaker 1: things operates at a much faster speed in the National 25 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: Football League. I'll say this though. You know Kyler Murray 26 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: because he was drafted in baseball and he came on late. 27 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: But Trevor Lawrence, they've been climbing for this guy over 28 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 1: the last two or three years and you know, obviously 29 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 1: a very successful career, but also he's going to a 30 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: franchise that you know, they won game one last year 31 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: and they have a one sense so it's it's a 32 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: work in progress. But you know, everyone's pointing out, you know, 33 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence and his stats after two games, Kyler Murray 34 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: was in the same boat. Now in week two day 35 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: went to Baltimore, so you had the Detroit game over time. 36 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:17,239 Speaker 1: Then they go to Baltimore and they hung in there. 37 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: But I mean, I looked at the numbers they're very similar. 38 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 1: I mean they're both in the fifties when it comes 39 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 1: to completion percentage. Kyler was sacked eight times. He did 40 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: have a couple of touchdowns. I think Lawrence is still 41 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: waiting to get They don't have a rushing touchdown correct corrects. 42 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:39,639 Speaker 1: In fact, Lawrence has more interceptions than touchdowns. He's only 43 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,639 Speaker 1: been sacked twice. And the narrative with him out of 44 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 1: Jacksonville and had an opportunity to speak with John Ozier 45 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 1: of Jaguars dot com for this week's Team to Team 46 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: presented by Microsoft Teams that we posted up on easy 47 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: Cardinals dot com, if not on Thursday, at some points 48 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: ahead of the game on Sunday. But when you look 49 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: at just Lawrence is going through and the fact that, 50 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,639 Speaker 1: as we talked about, very successful in high school and 51 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: in college MJ he lost two games in fifty four 52 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: high school games, two games in forty college games. His 53 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: NFL career, He's off to an O and two start. 54 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 1: And the question that we had ahead of Kyler Murray 55 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 1: coming here was you're so successful, how do you handle losing? 56 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: How is it going to be because you're not going 57 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 1: to go and defeated. It just doesn't happen in the NFL, 58 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 1: And in speaking with John Osher, he said, Trevor Lawrence 59 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: is saying all the right things. He's calm, he's composed, 60 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: he understands the position he's in as the face of 61 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: the franchise, and also that, hey, things aren't going well 62 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: right now. He's not discouraged, he's not frustrated. It's just 63 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 1: parts of the maturation and the growing process that Trevor 64 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: Lawrence and this young Jaguars team with a very young 65 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: head coach in terms of NFL experience in Urban Meyer, 66 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: that this is just parts of the process. Now, no 67 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: one likes it, but that's just where they're at at 68 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: this point. Yeah, and you look at some of the 69 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: young quarterbacks that are starting from week one. I mean, 70 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: I think Mac Jones went to a perfect team. You know, 71 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 1: I think he passes the eye. Tis Zach Wilson. I 72 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: mean to me, Trevor Lawrence and Zach Wilson starters from 73 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 1: day one. They got to get better with their rosters. 74 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:25,919 Speaker 1: I mean, there's a reason why they brought in Robert Salo. Okay, 75 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 1: there's a reason why they hired you know, Urban Meyer 76 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: and Trent Belkie, who done a good job with the 77 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: San Francisco Fog. He's the GM, but you just can't 78 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: make these wholesale challenges. Plus they got to make it 79 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: a destination for free agents in the future. But you know, 80 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: Lawrence is throwing the ball eighty four times forty two 81 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: for eighty four fifty four hundred and fifty yards, four touchdowns, 82 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:55,359 Speaker 1: five interceptions, sacked only twice. Kyler Murray going back to 83 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 1: last year, he threw the ball fifty for ninety four 84 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: seven percent, two touchdowns, one interception, sacked eight times. So 85 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: this is what happens when you go to a team 86 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: that has the first pick in the draft, and you 87 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: know everyone's clamoring for justin fields we'll see. I mean 88 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: when he was in there, he struggled, and then you 89 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 1: just look around the league. You know, Trey Lance is 90 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: in a really good spot. More of a gadget guy, 91 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: I assume. But there's a reason why these teams draft 92 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: these franchise quarters. You just got to make sure you 93 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 1: hit at him. But do you have to be patient. 94 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: I mean, nothing's going to happen overnight. So I mean, 95 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: we dealt with Kyla Murray and he got better as 96 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: a season progress. They were five, ten, and one. But 97 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 1: then we're always looking at that sex year, second year, 98 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: and then over the sense we look at Patrick Mahomes 99 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 1: and Josh Allen and Mayfield third year. So I know 100 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 1: what they're going through, but I don't know if that 101 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: roster has enough talent to compete for four quarters, week 102 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: in and week out in the NFL. And they're already 103 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: talking about Thursday's game. There's a short week, a quick 104 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: turnaround for the Jaguars from Sunday to Thursday night football. 105 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,919 Speaker 1: And it's funny. I smiled when you said patients, because 106 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:10,479 Speaker 1: it's very easy to say the word. It's much more 107 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 1: difficult to actually execute and do what that word means. 108 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: People aren't patients in this day and age, and you 109 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 1: can be patients in the offseason and then once the 110 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: regular season and it's like, all right, let's go. I mean, 111 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: we needed some wins, some validation on what we are 112 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: doing on the football field. And we had the same 113 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: conversations two years ago when Kyle Murray was the number 114 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,479 Speaker 1: one overall draft pick. But looking at the history of 115 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray against current teams with quarterbacks selected number one, 116 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: it's not a very good record. One, five and one. Now, 117 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: if you want to throw in Cam Newton again, I 118 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 1: said current teams. Then it's won six and one and 119 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,799 Speaker 1: three of those five losses to Jared Golf and company 120 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 1: with Rams. We'll see what happens this year. Course for 121 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: the one win is Baker Mayfield and Stafford beat him. Yes, 122 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: and Lamar was a first round pick, first round pick. 123 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: I'm talking about number one overall picks. Yeah, it hasn't 124 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: been good, but certainly there is the opportunity here this 125 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: week to get another one. And we know the quarterbacks 126 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: don't face one another, but that is something that people 127 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: talk about because that is the headline on the marquee 128 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: Week three, Kyler Murray and the Cardinals, Trevor Lawrence and 129 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: the Jaguar. And you know, on paper, well it's true, 130 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: Actually it's not on paper. Kingsbury has more NFL experience 131 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: as a head coach than urban Meyer, who was so 132 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: successful in college and we know he won championships and 133 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: you know he was able to recruit there where Kingsbury was, 134 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: you know, in the state of Texas. A little bit 135 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: different at Texas Tech unless you want to throw the ball. 136 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: So it's interesting that Kingsbury has more NFL experience as 137 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: a head coach. Of course, urban Meyer just took the 138 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: job a few months ago. By the way, why don't 139 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: you let everyone know what was if they haven't already 140 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: heard it or seen it's what NFL films captured. And 141 00:07:56,640 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: a conversation last week between urban and Big Fangio, well, 142 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: Fangio let the cat out of the bag, and then 143 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: all of a sudden they had that boom mic and 144 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: Fangio said, I've never met urban Meyer. I got a 145 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: chance to talk to him before the game and after 146 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: the game, and since it was a boom mic over there, 147 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: he basically said that, you know, every week, it's like 148 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: playing against Alabama. It Alabama would not be in an 149 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: NFL team, no, And I understand that that sometimes gets 150 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: part of the conversation over the past couple of years 151 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 1: and maybe even this year. But it is because Alabama 152 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,319 Speaker 1: is heading shoulders above everyone else, and now all of 153 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: a sudden, you're looking around the National Football League. Even 154 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 1: if you're not good, you're still great as far as 155 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: the talents on your football team with respects to an 156 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: NFL roster. So Trevor Lawrence and Kyler Murray, that is 157 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: the first storyline, and then the other storyline involving Trevor 158 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 1: Lawrence is Isaiah Simmons. And this is going to be 159 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: fascinating because after two seasons as teammates at Clemson twenty 160 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 1: eighteen and twenty nineteen, they won a national championship and 161 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen Lawrence's first season, they beat Alabama that year, 162 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 1: runners up to LSU the following season. But there was 163 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: just a little bit I'm trying to trying to paint 164 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: the picture because when Isaiah Simmons spoke this week and 165 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: he was asked a lot of questions about Trevor Lawrence, 166 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: and yeah, there were teammates, but now all of a sudden, 167 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: he's defense in Lawrence's offense. But they're just I think 168 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: of any game this season, Simmons is really looking forward 169 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: to this matchup because he can never hit him in 170 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 1: practice exactly. He had a smile on his face and 171 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 1: the fact that you know, when you're the quarterback, you 172 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: are untouchable, literally untouchable during the week, don't even get close, 173 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: don't even breathe on him, and Simmons joked about that, Yeah, 174 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: I couldn't do anything, and there was without seeing anything, 175 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: and there was no bulletin board material or anything like that, 176 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: but you could just tell that if he gets close, 177 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 1: you know he's going to try to bring him down 178 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 1: for the first time ever, not to injure, not to 179 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 1: harm anything like that. Just bragging rights, but just that 180 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: and that big hit exactly bragging rights to say I 181 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 1: got you finally, Yes, we're no longer teammates. And he 182 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: did say he kind of joked with him in the 183 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 1: offseason where hey, maybe I can get a pick, maybe 184 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 1: I can get a sack, maybe he can get a 185 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: touchdown paraphrasing. But now that's good because you know, if 186 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: you look at the Clemson roster, yes they've had a 187 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 1: ton of people draft in the NFL, but you're talking 188 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: about the you know, the eighth overall pick and the 189 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 1: first pick, and they've done a great job. You know, 190 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: maybe they're not the same team this year because all 191 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: the players they lost, but I'm sure they had a 192 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: lot of great times going to these bowl games and 193 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: playing in big games, and that's where the chemistry comes 194 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 1: because on that side of the ball, he was a stud. 195 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: On the other side of the ball, it was Isaiah Simmons, 196 00:10:57,880 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 1: least for that final year when he was in college. Yeah, 197 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: those two seasons that they were together were unbelievable years. 198 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: It's just unfortunate that last season they weren't able to 199 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: finish back to back national championship runs, losing in the 200 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 1: title game to LSU. But I did find it interesting. 201 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 1: And maybe this is again going back to that storyline conversation, 202 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: because whenever someone comes back to a team or faces 203 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: their former team or their former opponents, and all of 204 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 1: a sudden, we want we want to know, all right, 205 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: what are you saying in the locker room. Are you 206 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: helping out your teammates, whether it's on offense or defense? 207 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: Are you giving an advice? How do you handle this 208 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: particular player? How do you handle this particular team. You 209 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 1: were there for so many years, You've got inside and 210 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: what they do. You've got inside on what this guy 211 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: does and does not do well. And to hear Simmons say, yeah, 212 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: you know what, no one's asked me anything about Trevor Lawrence. 213 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: And I think that's what we as fans in the media, 214 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 1: get caught up in these storylines where coaches just say 215 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 1: what am I seeing on film? Yeah, there's sometimes some tendencies, 216 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 1: maybe a little bit of an opinion, but coaches rely 217 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 1: so much on film and on tape that it might 218 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 1: not mean anything. Like Simmons can say, you know what, 219 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence really likes to do this, This is his 220 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: tell and I don't even know if he has one, 221 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: and he might not even have a tell. But it 222 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: is funny on how much we kind of dive into 223 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: these topics and coaches just like you know what, I 224 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: watch what I see on film, and that's what I 225 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: go off of, not what someone might say because they 226 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: knew him, played with him or played against him in 227 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:38,439 Speaker 1: the past. Well, if you're a player in that secondary 228 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: on the defense, I would definitely think you'd walk by 229 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:44,079 Speaker 1: him and ask questions. I mean, if you're Marco Wilson, 230 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: where is his tendencies? You know, if you're Robert Alford 231 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: or Bryan Murphy or Buddha Baker, I want to know. 232 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 1: I get the coaches because sometimes they can tell you 233 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 1: stuff and the film doesn't add up to it. Now 234 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: it's only a small sample. He did play in the preseason, 235 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 1: sort did you go back to clem some plays? Because 236 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: he got to figure there's installing a brand new offense. 237 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 1: But if I'm a player on that side of the ball. 238 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 1: I want to know as much as I can, and 239 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: then if in the first quarter if it's a little 240 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 1: bit different, then you just go by with the clearly 241 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: you're sticking to the game plant. But as a player, 242 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: I think I want to know some of his tendencies. 243 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: And that was something that we had asked about JJ 244 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: Wat week one against Tennessee. How many times he's played 245 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 1: the Titans in his numbers, very good numbers against the Titans. 246 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: He's got great numbers against the Jaguars as well, seventeen 247 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: sacks in sixteen games. Watt says, yeah, he's offering as 248 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: much advice or as much opinion as he can on 249 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 1: the Jaguars. A little bit different there, because, yeah, there 250 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,839 Speaker 1: might be some players that he's familiar with, but it's 251 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 1: a brand new coaching staff, and yeah, Darryl Bevill the OC. 252 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: There has been around Viking, Seahawks, Lions, etc. But with 253 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 1: a new head coach who comes from the college ranks, 254 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 1: what are they going to do? You only only have 255 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: two weeks worth of film to watch, and maybe you 256 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 1: dig deep into what he did at Florida, Ohio State 257 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: or maybe even Utah, but it's more different Colts. But again, 258 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: we all like these numbers, and DeAndre Hopkins has so 259 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: many yards, receptions, touchdowns against certain opponents and definitely the 260 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: division they were in for the last seven to ten years, 261 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: and it's it's just it sets up well this year 262 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: that for Watton Hopkins. The Cardinals have the AFC South 263 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 1: and two out of the three games is against the South. Yes. 264 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: Now Schottenheimer's on that staff. Also, Brian Schottenheimer spent some 265 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 1: time in Seattle. They moved on from him. George Warhop 266 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: former offensive line coach with the Cardinals, he's on the staff. 267 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: And a former defensive player that played here, Tony Gilbert. 268 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 1: He's assistant linebackers coach. Now Marvin Jones played for Daryl 269 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: Bevill at Detroit, so that was what he went to 270 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: badform and brought him in and they scored a touchdown 271 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: on that first possession. I want to say, oh, Shaughnessy 272 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: made a great catch. He's out this week. But they 273 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: have intel. But I listened to Urban Meyer's Coaches show 274 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: and he said, we're still trying to figure out the 275 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: wide receiver position, and he's based on routes and then 276 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: you hear that, you know, maybe Lawrence is overthrown on 277 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: the sidelines. He said, we're still working in progress. They 278 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: really want to try to run the football, but you 279 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: know it's He just basically said, you know, we're trying 280 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 1: to do things. He said, I never pop on the headset, 281 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: but I think Bevil needs to know we want to 282 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: run the football. He goes, we're so new, we're early 283 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 1: in week two. I don't want to step on their 284 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: toes when it comes to the coordinators, but I do 285 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: have the ability to say, let's run the ball. So 286 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: he's saying, right now, I want to get too involved. 287 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: But the more you lose it comes back to him, 288 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: just like it came back to Kingsbury's first year. Exactly 289 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: when you're the head coach, you're in charge, even if 290 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: you delegate certain responsibilities to other parts of your coaching staff. 291 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: But offensively, this Jaguars team against small sample size, but 292 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 1: this is what we're going off of. They've scored the 293 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: third fewest points in the AFC. Zero rushing touchdowns to 294 00:15:56,680 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 1: your points and then running the football more six team 295 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: carries for seventy six yards in a week one, sixteen 296 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: carries for seventy five yards in a week two Now, 297 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: a lot of this is because they're trailing and you 298 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 1: have to throw the ball to get back into these contests, 299 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:16,239 Speaker 1: and you hope that that sometimes hits and becomes effective. 300 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 1: But they believe, at least through two games, that Trevor 301 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: Lawrence is trying to do too much, which is not 302 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: a surprise. They has been very successful on the deep shots, 303 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: but they want him instead of looking always upfield, check 304 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: down a little bit, be a little bit more patient, 305 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: maybe some scoring drives that are eight plus as opposed 306 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: to the home runs and trying to get into the 307 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: end zone as fast as possible. It's interesting because that's 308 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: exactly what I heard on his coaches show. The host 309 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 1: asked him, you know, you got a young guy and 310 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: you guys are trying to get some splash plays. Would 311 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: it be a better option for him to check it down? 312 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: And he said, yeah, that's part of the learning process. 313 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: That's what we're working through with him because he does 314 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 1: have the arm strength. So that's exactly what urban was asked, 315 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: and he said, because the guy made two references where 316 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: there were guys opening the flat and he still wanted 317 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 1: to throw the ball down the field. Now, they did 318 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: get a kickoff return for one hundred and two yards. 319 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: I wanted to say it was in the fourth quarters. 320 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 1: So they did get they were able to chew into 321 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 1: the lead, but he thought if they could have made 322 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 1: another stop, the game could have been a little bit closer. Again, 323 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 1: they scored on their first possession, then they got a 324 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: one hundred and two kickoff return for a touchdown. I 325 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: think it was a fourth quarter. So you know, that's 326 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: how you're gonna have to flip field position. You get 327 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 1: a special team's touchdown and you gotta pick six. You 328 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: sacked a quarterback. They're gonna have to create more possessions 329 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: just based on their not being able to move the football. 330 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 1: And if you can't run the football in the NFL, 331 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a long day. Lawrence on that opening 332 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: drive last week against the Broncos five of seven for 333 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: seventy three yards and a score. He was just nine 334 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 1: of twenty six for forty five yards and two interceptions. 335 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 1: The rest of the game now is that the Broncos 336 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 1: understanding what Lawrence is doing and making the adjustment, and 337 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 1: you hope the Cardinals do the same. Or to your point, again, 338 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence is being asked to do too much or 339 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: as like any young quarterback feels like the burden is 340 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 1: on his shoulders to get this team up and down 341 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:12,360 Speaker 1: the field, score points and ultimately get that first win. 342 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 1: And listening to everyone this week, from Isaiah Simmons to 343 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: JJ Watt to Vance Joseph, even Marcus Golden earlier in 344 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:23,360 Speaker 1: the week, they all recognize the talents of Trevor Lawrence, 345 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 1: the arm talent. Vance Joseph referenced the deep shots he's 346 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: hit on each or He's hit at least one deep 347 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 1: shot each of these first two games. There's no question 348 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence has the talents. The question is, MJ. When 349 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 1: do we see that talents? When does that first game 350 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: that everyone says, oh, yeah, that's the reason he's the 351 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 1: number one overall pick. We hope it's not this week. Well, 352 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 1: absolutely not. But he actually admitted it in his press 353 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:52,640 Speaker 1: conference that he thought the game was slowing down for him. 354 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 1: I mean, that's only two weeks so and let's give 355 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:59,919 Speaker 1: credit to the Broncos. Even though Teddy Bridgewater, you know, 356 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 1: he's a guy that if he doesn't make mistakes, and 357 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 1: they got a lot of weapons on the outside. The 358 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: running game with Williams and Melvin Gordon. Their secondary's very good. 359 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 1: I mean, hey, you know, I mean that that's Fanjie's background, 360 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: and they get pressure from Chubb and von Miller, so 361 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 1: you know the fact, it's not like they went against 362 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 1: a team that was with a you know, new coach. 363 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 1: Fan Jie's in kind of the boat. He's got to 364 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 1: win this year. And you know, obviously they made a 365 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:25,679 Speaker 1: decision with Teddy Bridgewater. So the Broncos do have a 366 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 1: good defense, so that was a good test for them. 367 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: But I don't know if they had the same speed 368 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 1: that the Cardinals team as a whole has. I mean, 369 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: I think Tennessee added speed in the offseason. I think 370 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 1: the Cardinals have added speed. Now they lose Travis Etnu 371 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: and he was going to be a he was going 372 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: to be their splash guy. He's gonna be catching pass 373 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:47,360 Speaker 1: out of the backfield, and he's out for the year. 374 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:50,640 Speaker 1: So that really hurt what they wanted to do offensively. 375 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:52,159 Speaker 1: And I want to get into that as far as 376 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 1: the running back position and the offensive line. Two points 377 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:58,439 Speaker 1: of emphasis here for the Cardinals as they look to 378 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 1: take on or look to go three and zero against 379 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars. Here in week three, again, it is 380 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:08,160 Speaker 1: at a ten am kickoff Arizona Time. Five thirty AM. 381 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 1: Pregame coverage begins as we talk about that matchup here 382 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: on Cardinals Cover two, presented by Hunday proud partner of 383 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,919 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals. Let's touch on what Van Joseph had 384 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 1: to say with respects to the run game. It's each 385 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 1: and every week you gotta stop the run. You gotta 386 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,160 Speaker 1: make your opponent one dimensional. They want to get Trevor 387 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:29,640 Speaker 1: Lawrence into passing situations, obvious passing downs. But you look 388 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:33,400 Speaker 1: at what the Jaguars do running the football early on, 389 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: much better, but then when they trail, they have to 390 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:39,640 Speaker 1: throw the football. James Robinson very good a year ago 391 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: as an undrafted rookie free agent, and Carlos Hyde is 392 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 1: now in the backfield. Cardinal fans remember him for the 393 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: forty nine ers eight games against the Cardinals. He's got 394 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: four career rushing touchdowns. But yes, the loss of Travis 395 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 1: Etn is certainly a major factor in this rushing offense, 396 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:01,400 Speaker 1: but don't discount James Robins and his ability not only 397 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: to run the football, but to catch the ball out 398 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 1: of the backfield. Yeah, and I get the impression based 399 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:12,640 Speaker 1: on Kingsbury when he did his media availability, it could 400 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 1: have been on Luke and will show also is that 401 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:17,679 Speaker 1: when they watched the film, they know there's a lot 402 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,160 Speaker 1: of things to clean up and it's really about gap discipline, 403 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: staying in your gaps. So that's something to look for 404 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 1: in the first quarter because it's on film how they 405 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 1: got gashed last week with Dalvin Cook and this is 406 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:29,879 Speaker 1: a good back. He's not a household name. Plus he 407 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: plays in the you know, the AFC, so you really 408 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 1: don't hear about it. We only play this team every 409 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:38,400 Speaker 1: four years home and away after eight years, So yeah, 410 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I clearly you got to think that they 411 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 1: watched the film and it's really about winning your one 412 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: on one matchups, but also staying within the frame of 413 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: the defense. And they're big on early downs. So if 414 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 1: they can, you know, like they started the Titans game 415 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,919 Speaker 1: now again tackle for losses, et cetera. But if you 416 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 1: can get him first down maybe one or two yards, 417 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: and now it's second and eight, and if it's third 418 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 1: and seven, all of a sudden, that becomes more of 419 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 1: a passing down and that's where Vans can bring in 420 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: his different packages to put pressure on a young quarterback. 421 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 1: So yeah, it all starts with stopping the run. And 422 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 1: you know, I was disappointing the way they came out 423 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: based on the validation how they played against the Titans. 424 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 1: First game Week one, first play tackle for loss by 425 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:27,159 Speaker 1: Chandler Jones on Derreck Henry. First play Week two, Dalvin 426 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 1: Cook eleven yard run and that set the tone. We 427 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 1: talked about week one, Chandler Jones setting the tone. Week two, 428 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,640 Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook set the tone and the defense was back 429 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: on its heels the rest of the first half, to 430 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: the point that Vansh Joseph quote the gap integrity in 431 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 1: the first half was awful. Coach Joseph was not a 432 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: happy man, still not a happy man when he addressed 433 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:52,439 Speaker 1: the media on Thursday. I expect a much different looking, 434 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 1: more intense defense, especially along that defensive line. Comes Sunday. 435 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 1: Second play touchdown, true, and that was you know they 436 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 1: studied it, but you know, you got to you gotta 437 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 1: give Minnesota credit. They saw something in a film and 438 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,640 Speaker 1: Billy Murphy's supposed to peel out, but he got there 439 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 1: late and then clearly was he was wide open. So 440 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 1: the second play in the game off an eleven yard run. 441 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 1: Kind of set that up because they were geared to 442 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: stop the run and all of a sudden they you know, 443 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 1: have a pop pass and it's for a touchdown. You 444 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 1: look at two games defensively, six quarters. I think this 445 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 1: defense has been outstanding. It's those two quarters in the 446 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: first half that almost cost the Cardinals a win and 447 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 1: maybe should have cost the Cardinals a w against the Vikings. Yes, 448 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 1: you're gonna give up big plays, you just don't want 449 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 1: to give up a lot of them. And the Cardinals 450 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 1: too many times against the Vikings were giving up eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, 451 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 1: thirteen yard runs to Dovin Cook. Now he is a 452 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: very good running back. In fact, Derrick Henry Dovin Cook, 453 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 1: we talked about it, number one and number two in 454 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: the league. Now you got James rob not a household name, 455 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 1: but still a very capable running back. And you just wonder, now, 456 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: what will we see defensively out of the Cardinals. You know, 457 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 1: it's been hammered home on film in the classroom on 458 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,879 Speaker 1: the football field, this defense. And I don't know so 459 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 1: much if it's the entire front seven MG or just 460 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 1: the defensive line, but what they need to do better, 461 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:25,439 Speaker 1: whether that is get off blocks, get into their gaps, 462 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 1: and make sure tackles, because I'd be very disappointed to see, 463 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 1: once again if in that first quarter, even the first play, 464 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: that a James Robinson or Carlos Hide is breaking off 465 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 1: an eight plus yard run. Yeah, that can't happen. I 466 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: mean again. And one thing urban Meyer said to on 467 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,400 Speaker 1: his coaches show, I'm glad to listen to it gave 468 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 1: me a lot of good content here. He said, if 469 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 1: we just want to get James to the second level, 470 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 1: he hasn't been able to get to the second level yet. 471 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 1: And that's meaning if you get past that first layer 472 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 1: and he's got he's got good sizes of back. It's 473 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,239 Speaker 1: not like he's a you know, I don't and say 474 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: he's a bruiser, but he's got he can run you 475 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,439 Speaker 1: over it. But he said, we haven't gotten him to 476 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 1: the second level yet. And again they've been forced to 477 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 1: throw the ball because they've been behind. So'd be interesting 478 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,959 Speaker 1: to see, you know, their snap count against the Cardinals 479 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,640 Speaker 1: in the first half or the first quarter, and if 480 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 1: they're able to go on some drives, that's going to 481 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: play unto lead, you know, keeping Kyler Murray on the sidelines, 482 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,439 Speaker 1: and got to assume it's going to be humid. Nobody 483 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: likes playing it in September any in Florida, Tampa, Miami, 484 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 1: you're gonna cramp up that the Cardinals do a good job. 485 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 1: They're gonna leave on Friday. So you know, those are 486 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 1: all kind of sidebar stuff, but it'd be interesting to 487 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 1: see if they can run the football to keep the 488 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,679 Speaker 1: Cardinals offense on the sidelines. And the other reason if 489 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,879 Speaker 1: you're the Jaguars you want to run that football so 490 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: well is to make sure Chandler Jones doesn't get going. 491 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,360 Speaker 1: That was something that I think got lost immediately after 492 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: the ball game. It was all right, Chandler Jones disappear. 493 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 1: If JJ watt where were they against the Vikings? And 494 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 1: Vance Joseph answered that on Thursday by saying, because the 495 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 1: Vikings were able to run the football so well on 496 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,159 Speaker 1: first down, then all of a sudden, on second and 497 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 1: third down, there was not an obvious passing down and 498 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,199 Speaker 1: the best way to neutralize the Chandler Jones is to 499 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: run the football successfully. Vikings did and therefore Chandler Jones 500 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:17,919 Speaker 1: had no sacks. Titans did nuts Therefore, Chandler Jones had 501 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: five sacks and we're sitting there going eight. This could 502 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 1: be the season, this could be a record breaking year 503 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 1: for Chandler Jones. Still ken, but now all of a sudden, 504 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 1: it goes back to not just what Chandler Jones is doing, 505 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 1: but that entire front seven. I gonna keep going back 506 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,639 Speaker 1: to the entire front seven because it's defensive line, and 507 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 1: it's the linebackers, especially the inside linebackers. You stop the 508 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,880 Speaker 1: run second and long, third and long, and talking about long, 509 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 1: that's you know what, five plus yards, six plus yards. 510 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 1: Then all of a sudden, you know what the offense 511 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: is going to do. And that's when your edge rushers 512 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 1: compete in their ears back and really get after the 513 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,360 Speaker 1: signal caller. Yeah, and on the other side of the coin, 514 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 1: I'm looking at their numbers. Team thirty two rushes, one 515 00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty one yards averaging thirteens or long. Do 516 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 1: your opponents have seventy one rushing attempts two fifty six 517 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,880 Speaker 1: only three point six yards average and two touchdowns? So 518 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 1: it's almost double. The teams that are playing the first 519 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 1: two weeks have doubled the rushing total. And again that's 520 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 1: why Trevor Lawrence is throwing the ball eighty four times 521 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 1: and he's completed at forty two and that's a whopping 522 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 1: fifty percent. When you look at the run game, you 523 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,399 Speaker 1: have to look at the offensive line, and this Jaguars 524 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 1: offensive line on paper not greats because if you just 525 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 1: look at the numbers from a year ago, forty four 526 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 1: sacks they allowed last year, and all five starters returned, 527 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: and there was an opportunity to upgrade, especially at the 528 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 1: tackle position. Their second round pick, Walker Little is not 529 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,160 Speaker 1: quite ready. In fact, he's still on the reserve COVID 530 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,399 Speaker 1: nineteen lists, so not expected to play this week. But 531 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 1: last week against the Broncos, Von Miller and Bradley Chubb 532 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:59,160 Speaker 1: combined for one sack on thirty four drop back pass attempts, 533 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:03,879 Speaker 1: so they do have the capability to neutralize very good 534 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 1: pass rush, which the Cardinals we think have. I'll say 535 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,399 Speaker 1: this though, that probably lends to and I don't have 536 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,400 Speaker 1: the numbers in front of me, he's probably getting murder 537 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 1: of the ball very quick. And if you do a 538 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 1: three or a five step drop and your receivers can 539 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 1: get down twenty yards, that's pop. I have to look 540 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 1: at the numbers to see that, but that's a good 541 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 1: stat just based on you know, it has to be 542 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 1: more than just Chandler Jones, sure, Marcus Golden and you 543 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,199 Speaker 1: know GUARDA is still probably a few weeks away, but 544 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 1: you'd like to see you know, JJ Watt or somebody 545 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 1: from the interior. And again I'll not fixate it on stats. 546 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 1: I'm more tackle for losses, hurry's pressure, pressures, knockdowns, and 547 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: let's see if we can force a couple of turnovers 548 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 1: because that would go a long way just to kind 549 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 1: of loosen things up. And then you know, you've got 550 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: to think, you know, confidence will start setting in. Here 551 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 1: we go again, even though he's only been there. That 552 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 1: as the crowds watching the game again, they haven't won 553 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 1: a football game since Week one of last year. You 554 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 1: look to see how much Trevor Lawrence has to fill 555 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 1: the football. And we know Kirk Cousins last week was 556 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 1: getting rid of the football a lot. That pocket hardly 557 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: ever collapsed. But if you can get some consistent pressure 558 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 1: on Trevor Lawrence, make him think that he is feeling 559 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 1: that rush and then dancing around into the pocket a 560 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: little bit and maybe looking at the corner of his 561 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 1: eyes and not so much a field at where his 562 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 1: pass catchers are. Then I think you can have a 563 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 1: lot of success, especially against this Jaguar's offense. It goes 564 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,239 Speaker 1: back to what kind of pressure are you getting on 565 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 1: the opposing quarterback? Again. Week one very very good. Last 566 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 1: week not so good. For a half. Yes, it really 567 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 1: started getting better after the pick six. I mean clearly 568 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 1: they made adjustments because we start them moving Chandler around. 569 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 1: They were making more plays and then being able to 570 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 1: retain or contain Delvin Cook and then obviously Cousins. He 571 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 1: threw for one hundred and fifty yards I want to 572 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 1: say in the first half three touchdowns. As an offense, 573 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 1: he only had three offensive points besides the pick six. 574 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 1: So I think we've heard it from Isaiah Simmons. I 575 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 1: think we've heard it from Vans Joseph, and you know, 576 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 1: Isaiah's a guy that can play a lot of different positions. 577 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 1: Joseph is putting the game plan and it sounds like 578 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 1: they want to make this team one dimensional, and that 579 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 1: means shut the run game down and see if the 580 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 1: young quarterback can make all the throws. And they may 581 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 1: have to throw the ball forty times, but just based 582 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 1: on the media session, that sounds like the game plan 583 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 1: going in make them one dimensional. We know week one 584 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 1: not an anomaly, but I don't expect this defense to 585 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 1: hold teams to thirteen points a game. I just it's 586 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 1: not realistic in this day and age, and we said 587 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: as much after Week one. Yet on the flip side, now, 588 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 1: on the other side of the spectrum, we saw what 589 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 1: happened in the first half with the Vikings and how 590 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 1: much success they had on offense. Where is the middle ground, MJ. 591 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 1: Where can we agree to meet as far as expectations 592 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 1: and where the bar is for this Cardinals defense. Well, 593 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 1: I'm looking at the first game. They lost thirty one 594 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: twenty seven, last week twenty three thirteen, so they haven't 595 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 1: really scored a lot of points. I just just think 596 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 1: if the Cardinals go back and watch the film, and 597 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 1: you know they want to be a team that people 598 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 1: are talking about for all the right reasons besides Kyler 599 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: Murray and must watch TV, and you know the offense 600 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 1: is clicking. I'm comfortable this team can score over thirty 601 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 1: thirty two points, So that takes a little pressure off 602 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 1: the defense. But I'm going to give them the benefit 603 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,479 Speaker 1: of doubt. I think they realized that, you know, they 604 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: could have played a lot better and not put themselves 605 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 1: in that situation last week because you know, it was you. 606 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 1: They had a ton of time this focus and scout 607 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 1: the Titans, and it's a little different when you get 608 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 1: to the regular season. So I'm gonna give them the 609 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 1: benefit of doubt. I don't know if this is a 610 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 1: true test. I guess it would be more next week, 611 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 1: but they are NFL players and that's all you gotta 612 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 1: do is play the next team on your schedule. But 613 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 1: I think they're going to respond here just based on, 614 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 1: you know, the uncertainty with a new head coach in 615 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 1: a quarterback. That's my expectation as well. What I don't 616 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 1: want to see, however, and this is a little tongue 617 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 1: in cheek, I don't want to see Trevor Lawrence knocked 618 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 1: out of this game for any length of time. You 619 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 1: know why. You look at the depth chart, you look 620 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 1: at the rest of the quarterbacks they have on the roster, MJ. 621 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence is backup CJ. Bethard. That's right, the same CJ. 622 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 1: Bethard who in Week sixteen at State Farm Stadium led 623 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers past the Cardinal. Well, I don't 624 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 1: know if we could put Kyle Shanahan and Darryl Bevil, 625 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 1: who's a local guy, had he had great career in 626 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 1: Seattle and he was in Detroit. I just Shannahan's offense 627 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 1: a little bit different. Yeah again, a little a little 628 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 1: tongue in cheek. I didn't know that though. Yeah, just 629 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 1: just an FYI there, burd Gang pay attention. It's just 630 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 1: sometimes sometimes things you know, you're you're hunted by your 631 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 1: past sometimes. And that game still haunts me, as does 632 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 1: Week three against the Detroit Lions last year. Oh this 633 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 1: still haunts me. It should, I mean because it was 634 00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 1: a winnable game. You know, they got Matt Prater now 635 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 1: hopefully that won't happen and oh can't because he's now 636 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 1: on our team. No, I know, I'm just saying in general, 637 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 1: I mean, just the fact that they have him now. 638 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 1: But and then the Carolina game, do you buy into 639 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 1: this traps? I wanted to get into that maybe on 640 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 1: when we discussed this on Friday, because that's another storyline. 641 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 1: But that's one where I just like what the quarterbacks had. 642 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 1: I disagree with the player's perspective but I understand why 643 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 1: they say what they say and why we say what 644 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 1: we say. Well, it's it's kind of interesting. They say 645 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 1: there's no trap game and then they remind us about 646 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 1: the Detroit Carolina game. Yeah right, Yes, you don't want 647 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 1: history to repeat yourself. And that is something that Listen 648 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 1: the Bucks and Rams. Let those guys play the overtime. 649 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 1: Let's go Bucks, and then we'll worry about next week. 650 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 1: But take care of business here. I don't look at 651 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 1: the record. They're a national football team. We know they'll 652 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 1: give it any given Sunday, but bounce back from last week, 653 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 1: and we're talking about bouncing back from a win absolutely 654 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 1: as JJ wants it on Thursday. Much easier to make 655 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 1: your corrections when you're two and O versus O and 656 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 1: two bird Gang. 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One last notes on 663 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:31,280 Speaker 1: the defense, and going back to our discussion about Isaiah Simmons, 664 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,280 Speaker 1: and I don't know if enough has been talked about 665 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 1: with him on how well he has played through the 666 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 1: first two games. The difference between year one and year 667 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:46,760 Speaker 1: two night and day one eighty difference. It is unbelievable 668 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 1: what Simmons is doing, even from when we saw him 669 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 1: in training camp with because there were several opportunities in 670 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,720 Speaker 1: training camp where he was being pulled off the field 671 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:56,880 Speaker 1: taken to the side, and there were a lot of 672 00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 1: discussions whether it was with Billy Davis or it's Joseph 673 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:05,200 Speaker 1: But Simmons MJ leads the team with seventeen tackles, thirteen 674 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,279 Speaker 1: of them solo. That's tops on the team. And he 675 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 1: is the only defender in the NFL with at least 676 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:15,839 Speaker 1: fifteen tackles, an interception, and a forced fumble. This kid 677 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 1: is getting it done. Yeah, And I was bullish. I 678 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,839 Speaker 1: just thought, just like Zaban Collins, they just needed an 679 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 1: off season. Now, obviously, you know, Jordan Hicks came back 680 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 1: with a chip on his shoulder and he's earned the 681 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 1: right to be the starter. But it's a long season. 682 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:33,239 Speaker 1: There's always injuries that occurred but yeah, we got a 683 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,319 Speaker 1: chance to see flashes and like I said, I don't 684 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,400 Speaker 1: know if it's a number with the swag, but not 685 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 1: being facetious here, he's a different player out there. I 686 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,359 Speaker 1: just see a different guy in the offseason workouts. He's 687 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,280 Speaker 1: much more confident, he's much more comfortable. He knows the defense. 688 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 1: When you listen to him, listen to what he says. 689 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:52,839 Speaker 1: I mean, he's kind of like Buddha. He knows, he 690 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 1: knows what they are trying to do against them. He 691 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 1: was the first guy that said we can't let Derek 692 00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,919 Speaker 1: Kennedy get to the second layers, and he's watching film 693 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,719 Speaker 1: prior to that. So yeah, it's sky's the limit. You know. 694 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,399 Speaker 1: I want to see him, you know, stay healthy. But 695 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 1: it's not going to surprise me if he's one of 696 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 1: the leaders on this defense from tackling and a playmaker 697 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,399 Speaker 1: ability because he doesn't have to just beat one guy. 698 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 1: He can fly around and make plays. And that's what 699 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 1: you would expect from Buddha, Baker and some other guys. 700 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,400 Speaker 1: More times than not, Simmons is at the right place 701 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 1: at the right time. He knows where he's supposed to be. 702 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 1: He's not thinking out there he's reacting, and I do 703 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 1: think there is more of a comfort level. Yeah, it's 704 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,240 Speaker 1: year two, full offseason for the first time in his career, 705 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,360 Speaker 1: but a comfort level and the fact that he is 706 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:42,800 Speaker 1: doing not exactly what he did at Clemson, but close 707 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,920 Speaker 1: to as far as being in different spots on the 708 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 1: football field, lining along the defensive line, in the box, 709 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:53,440 Speaker 1: at the corner slot, or a deep safety position. So 710 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:57,799 Speaker 1: they're utilizing his skill sets and he is answering that 711 00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 1: challenge to being able to say, yes, what I did 712 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 1: in college, I can do here in the NFL. Yeah, 713 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 1: And it's gonna go a week to week, and there 714 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 1: could be the week we see all three linebackers on 715 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:09,920 Speaker 1: the field. You know, some people think maybe more against 716 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 1: the Rams, but if they're able to run the football, 717 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 1: what's the strength of Zavian Collins coming up and run support. 718 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 1: He's very physical at the point of attack as long 719 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,120 Speaker 1: as he keeps his eyes in the right direction, doesn't overpursue. 720 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 1: But there's gonna be a week we're going to see 721 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 1: all three on there, and we know the Rams can 722 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,319 Speaker 1: try to spread you out, and with Stafford, you've got 723 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 1: to make shine your p's and q's. But you know, 724 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 1: Zaban Collins is he's ready, he's practicing hard, he's sweating 725 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 1: when we're out there. We're only out there for the 726 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 1: first twenty minutes. So it's not like he's just sitting 727 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,400 Speaker 1: there waiting for his reps. He's he's ready when his 728 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 1: numbers called. So no concern. As far as when you 729 00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 1: look at snapcounts, there are two games that it's Hicks 730 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,919 Speaker 1: Collins and then you have to look down to find 731 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,960 Speaker 1: Zaven Connell. Because I always mentioned this when it comes 732 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,120 Speaker 1: to draft class. I mean, look a look at Isaiah 733 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,280 Speaker 1: Simmons snaps last year. I mean, I know that Collins 734 00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 1: had the offseason, he had a couple of preseason games, 735 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:03,319 Speaker 1: but no, the ideas those snapcounts go up as the 736 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 1: season progresses. Now, if Jordan Hicks was the Jordan Hicks 737 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 1: of last year, I would be disappointed. But Jordan Hicks 738 00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:12,000 Speaker 1: is a completely different player. He's lost weight, he's in 739 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 1: great shape, he's comfortable, he knows the defense at the 740 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,239 Speaker 1: back of his hand. So, you know, Rondel Mourra, We'll 741 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 1: see how many more reps he gets throughout the year. 742 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:20,839 Speaker 1: I mean, I think they want to make sure they 743 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,400 Speaker 1: take care of him. It's a seventeen game schedule. Some 744 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,080 Speaker 1: of these guys couldn't stay healthy in college. So we 745 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,560 Speaker 1: get to halfway in the season, we'll see how it progresses. 746 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,120 Speaker 1: But right now the team is winning. So you want 747 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,719 Speaker 1: to develop players, especially young players. But right now the 748 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 1: focuses on winning on Sunday, and the key were there 749 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,120 Speaker 1: is winning, because if this team wasn't winning, then all 750 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 1: of a sudden, the narrative switches and we're asking you 751 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:45,239 Speaker 1: just invested at for the second straight year, a first 752 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,920 Speaker 1: round pick on an inside linebacker and he's not playing 753 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 1: as much yet. The discussion very early draft night was 754 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,239 Speaker 1: Davan Collins was going to play play a lot and 755 00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 1: play right away. Well, and then you got to give 756 00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:01,000 Speaker 1: the coaching staff credics. They knew what the GM said, 757 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,839 Speaker 1: and the coaches said, well, he's out played him in camp. So, 758 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,640 Speaker 1: like I said, Kyler Murray struggled his first year, at 759 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:10,960 Speaker 1: least the first month of the season. You know, you 760 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 1: look at you know obviously Isaiah Simmons struggled. Byron Murphy 761 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:18,440 Speaker 1: struggled his first year. It's you got to get comfortable, 762 00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,440 Speaker 1: and we always talk about it. When you're not thinking, 763 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:22,759 Speaker 1: you can react because Sometimes it takes guys one or 764 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,360 Speaker 1: two years. Sometimes it takes a third year. And I 765 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,960 Speaker 1: couldn't be more thrilled about the upside and Byron Murphy 766 00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:32,240 Speaker 1: the way he goes about his business. Physical they're rookies. 767 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,520 Speaker 1: I mean, there's a reason why you know, you don't 768 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,279 Speaker 1: have like twelve draft picks because you can't expect all 769 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:42,000 Speaker 1: those guys to play every single game in the rookie season. 770 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,040 Speaker 1: You just hope that you see a trend where they're 771 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,000 Speaker 1: making progress and they like last year, what was Isaiah 772 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:51,320 Speaker 1: known for it the splash plays, the pick, the sack 773 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,239 Speaker 1: that I mean you saw, Okay, this is what he 774 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:57,320 Speaker 1: can do with the good amount of snaps, but you 775 00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,480 Speaker 1: also have to earn it. And the fact that coaching 776 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,759 Speaker 1: staff said Jordan Hicks is a better player going into 777 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,440 Speaker 1: the season. We talked Kyle of Vannonbashel was on this early. 778 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:06,600 Speaker 1: He said, the first two games of the season, we're 779 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,239 Speaker 1: gonna see Jordan Hicks and I say A Simmons. So 780 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,040 Speaker 1: for a guy that played the game, he's not surprised. 781 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,560 Speaker 1: I think when you see where he's drafted, that's the 782 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:16,760 Speaker 1: reason comes up. But again, they're trying to win football 783 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,480 Speaker 1: games while trying to develop him. I am not concerned 784 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,440 Speaker 1: about his future. I know his work ethic, I know 785 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,839 Speaker 1: how smart he is, how physically it can be. He's 786 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,720 Speaker 1: just got to wait his turn. Small sample size, and 787 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:30,120 Speaker 1: eventually bird Gang will get away from saying small sample size. 788 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,320 Speaker 1: We'll have And I don't know what a normal sample 789 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,960 Speaker 1: size is, but two games does not tell you the 790 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 1: entire story of the twenty twenty one Arizona Cardinals. Yeah, 791 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,640 Speaker 1: and in normally week one, win or lose, you see 792 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:43,640 Speaker 1: a team's you know, make adjustments, kind of like the 793 00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,040 Speaker 1: Vikings did. I think, you know with this year. He's 794 00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,759 Speaker 1: usually a quarter system. You know, usually when you get 795 00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:52,040 Speaker 1: to at least four games, you have a nice little 796 00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,719 Speaker 1: sample size and then we'll say, well where they at at, 797 00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,680 Speaker 1: you know, after eight games. So I think really four 798 00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,640 Speaker 1: games is a good sample size unless you have injuries 799 00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 1: and other players get a chance to play. Speaking of injuries, 800 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,279 Speaker 1: and note on that bird Gang. As we continue here 801 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:09,080 Speaker 1: on Cardinals Cover two presented by Hunday Proud partner of 802 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:13,520 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals, good news, bad news on the injury 803 00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:15,799 Speaker 1: or front. As far as what we were able to 804 00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,600 Speaker 1: see during the open portion of practice on Thursday, the 805 00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:22,800 Speaker 1: good Marco Wilson and Justin Pugh both on the practice 806 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:27,520 Speaker 1: field after neither was spotted on Wednesday. In fact, neither participated, 807 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:31,360 Speaker 1: Pugh dealing with a shoulder injury and Wilson an ankle injury. 808 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:35,000 Speaker 1: That is what he suffered in the early portion of 809 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,040 Speaker 1: that game against the Vikings. In fact, it was early 810 00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,280 Speaker 1: in the second quarter. We did not see Marco Wilson 811 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 1: the rest of the ball game. Very good to see 812 00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:46,240 Speaker 1: Marco Wilson on the football field earlier on Thursday, and 813 00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,359 Speaker 1: he was running around seemed to me going full speed MJ. 814 00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:53,560 Speaker 1: So if that ankle is an issue, it was an issue. 815 00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,279 Speaker 1: Currently it's not an issue. Yeah, And I'm assuming he's 816 00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,360 Speaker 1: gotten treatment around the clock, and it's just nice to 817 00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,440 Speaker 1: see him out there. You hate to see a young 818 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:04,080 Speaker 1: guy that gets injured early and then it's a struggle 819 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,680 Speaker 1: to get back and sometimes you know, ankle sprains, depending 820 00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:08,560 Speaker 1: if it's a high ankle sprain, they can linger. But 821 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,440 Speaker 1: the fact that we got a chance to see him 822 00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:12,640 Speaker 1: during the open portion he was running from drill to 823 00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,840 Speaker 1: drill and again it gives him some great luxury. But 824 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:19,000 Speaker 1: Antonio Hamilton, I thought he played well. Number thirty three. 825 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,000 Speaker 1: He has a lot more experience, but obviously doesn't have 826 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:26,160 Speaker 1: the skill set of Marco Wilson. No, and I'm glad 827 00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:29,640 Speaker 1: you brought up Hamilton because asked about Hamilton vance Joseph 828 00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:33,200 Speaker 1: on Thursday quote he made four five big plays that 829 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,840 Speaker 1: no one saw but us end quotes, meaning Hamilton was 830 00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:40,960 Speaker 1: where he was supposed to be helped, assisted, did whatever 831 00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,279 Speaker 1: that might not have appeared in the stat sheet. Been 832 00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:47,560 Speaker 1: looking back at the film, Hamilton was exactly was doing 833 00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:51,360 Speaker 1: exactly what he was coached to do. And that's what 834 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:53,880 Speaker 1: you like to hear. You might not see it at 835 00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,520 Speaker 1: the end of the day. You know, no, tackles wasn't 836 00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,279 Speaker 1: even on the stat sheet. But you know, sometimes it's 837 00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,760 Speaker 1: not about your own numbers, but how do you produce 838 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:06,520 Speaker 1: in a particular play so it doesn't manufacture you know, 839 00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,879 Speaker 1: ten plus twenty plus yards. Yeah, And when Wilson went down, 840 00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,759 Speaker 1: I thought Robert Alford came in and inserted himself, because 841 00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,920 Speaker 1: usually it's you know, Murphy and then Alford possibly and 842 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,960 Speaker 1: then Marco Wilson. But I like the fact that you know, 843 00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,680 Speaker 1: Robert Alfer's very physical, and you know he can come 844 00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,560 Speaker 1: up and support the run game. And you know he 845 00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:26,520 Speaker 1: has really good coverage. He can press at the line 846 00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,279 Speaker 1: of scrimmage, so you know, I know that you know 847 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,239 Speaker 1: he'd like to have five or six, even though you're 848 00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,000 Speaker 1: linking to address four in game, Dame. But I like 849 00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,680 Speaker 1: where they're at and you can see Marco Wilson will 850 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:39,440 Speaker 1: make progress. But add a couple of veteran guys or 851 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,080 Speaker 1: Soil Douglas, who's on the practice squad, you know he 852 00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,400 Speaker 1: was in camp and then you had Hamilton, it just 853 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,640 Speaker 1: kind of settles things down where you're not relying on 854 00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:49,800 Speaker 1: young players to perform at a high level right away. 855 00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,160 Speaker 1: By the way, Hamilton once again one of the four 856 00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:55,240 Speaker 1: players of the Cardinals protected on the practice squad. Russel 857 00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:58,960 Speaker 1: Douglas not one of those four, But in addition to Hamilton, 858 00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:02,440 Speaker 1: Chris Banjo, Sean Harlowe and Ross Travis the four players 859 00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:05,320 Speaker 1: the Cardinals protected this week so they can't be poached 860 00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:09,000 Speaker 1: by another team ahead of this week's game against the Jaguars. Now, 861 00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:12,400 Speaker 1: the bad news on the injury fronts for the second 862 00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:16,680 Speaker 1: straight day, no Calvin Beacham, no DeAndre Hopkins, both dealing 863 00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,640 Speaker 1: with RIMBA injuries, and for Beacham it's an issue that 864 00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:22,480 Speaker 1: popped up early in that or I should say midway 865 00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:25,239 Speaker 1: through that game against the Vikings. In fact, after halftime 866 00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:29,319 Speaker 1: it was not Calvin Beacham, but justin Murray that we 867 00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:33,040 Speaker 1: saw at right tackle for the balance of the game 868 00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:35,160 Speaker 1: against the Vikings. So we'll keep an eye on that. 869 00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:39,280 Speaker 1: And you know, not that there's a worry with Beacham, 870 00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:41,880 Speaker 1: but something just to pay attention to. Now with Hopkins, 871 00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:46,600 Speaker 1: there is zero worry. We have had this discussion a lot, 872 00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,840 Speaker 1: especially last year. For me, Hopkins doesn't need to be 873 00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,399 Speaker 1: on the practice field at all during the week. There 874 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,360 Speaker 1: is walkthroughs, we're not participating or we don't get to 875 00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:58,279 Speaker 1: see and then he shows up on Sunday. It was 876 00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:01,960 Speaker 1: interesting though that someone decided to ask aj Green about 877 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,759 Speaker 1: potentially moving from the number two wide receiver to the 878 00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:08,040 Speaker 1: number one wide receiver spot this week because of Hopkins 879 00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:11,840 Speaker 1: not practicing, and according to Green, quote, hop don't miss games. 880 00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:17,640 Speaker 1: He'll be fine. That's a fact, Jack, he doesn't. Just 881 00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:20,240 Speaker 1: a matter of fact, like you know what, it doesn't matter, 882 00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:24,280 Speaker 1: just show up and ball out on Sunday. DeAndre Hopkins 883 00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:28,040 Speaker 1: does well. Basically he's definitely in the game plan. Yeah, 884 00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,600 Speaker 1: we will see number ten on the football field. I'm 885 00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:34,080 Speaker 1: trying to think there is I think what why he's missed. 886 00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,320 Speaker 1: I think it's less than five games in his career. 887 00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:42,200 Speaker 1: It might even be fewer than like you know what, 888 00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:44,880 Speaker 1: and that's right. And one game he was inactive just 889 00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,120 Speaker 1: because he wasn't needed. So it might have been just 890 00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,440 Speaker 1: he's only missed one game because of injury. Yeah, it 891 00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:53,680 Speaker 1: maybe tour Max with the inactive because it him in 892 00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:58,120 Speaker 1: that week seventeen game. Yeah, no, he listen, he's a 893 00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:00,560 Speaker 1: smart guy. He takes care of his body. You mean, 894 00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:03,640 Speaker 1: he eats the right way, he gets treatment around the clock. 895 00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,759 Speaker 1: It's you know, it's just you gotta feel good when 896 00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:08,960 Speaker 1: it comes to sunny and it's early in the season. 897 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,319 Speaker 1: But I'll tell you, I was thoroughly impressed how much 898 00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:13,160 Speaker 1: he practiced in training camp. And I think a lot 899 00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,719 Speaker 1: of it goes to the new wide receivers coach Sean Jefferson. 900 00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,680 Speaker 1: So you know, listen, these guys know their body better 901 00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:22,160 Speaker 1: anybody else. As you pointed out in AJ Green and 902 00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,640 Speaker 1: we learned last year, he shows up on game day 903 00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:28,000 Speaker 1: and really that's what you're paying him for, besides him 904 00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,120 Speaker 1: being a great teammate and trying to win football games 905 00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:34,560 Speaker 1: absolutely Cardinals and Jaguars again. Week three at Jacksonville at 906 00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:38,279 Speaker 1: TIA Bank Field at ten am is the kickoff five 907 00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,440 Speaker 1: thirty am. Pregame coverage begins on the was on A 908 00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:45,120 Speaker 1: Cardinals Radio network, and of course some homework for Mike 909 00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:50,040 Speaker 1: Jarecki coming up on Friday, MJ's Three Keys for Victory, 910 00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:53,279 Speaker 1: and of course the always popular X Factor. Before we 911 00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,680 Speaker 1: head on out of here, a reminder, Episode two of 912 00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:00,600 Speaker 1: Folk Tales dropped on Wednesday. It is a lable now 913 00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:04,399 Speaker 1: on the Cardinals official YouTube channel. The Night the Goal 914 00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:08,319 Speaker 1: Posts Vanish a turning point in Cardinals history. Looking back 915 00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:12,200 Speaker 1: at a Week two contest September eighth, nineteen ninety seventh, 916 00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,960 Speaker 1: Cardinals snapping a thirteen game losing streak to the Dallas 917 00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:19,319 Speaker 1: Cowboys with a twenty five, twenty two overtime win when 918 00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,360 Speaker 1: Kevin Butler's twenty yard field goal banked in off the 919 00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:26,560 Speaker 1: left uprights for the game winner. Folk Tales episode two, 920 00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,640 Speaker 1: The Night the Goal Post Vanish, available now on either 921 00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:34,040 Speaker 1: asycrdinals dot com or the Cardinals official YouTube channel. Go 922 00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:38,000 Speaker 1: to YouTube dot com slash as Cardinals and on that note, 923 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,239 Speaker 1: we will put a lid on. This edition of Cardinals 924 00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:43,480 Speaker 1: Cover two, presented by Hunday, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals, 925 00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:47,960 Speaker 1: has always special thanks to our executive director, our executive producer, 926 00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:51,480 Speaker 1: Jim I'm a hundred four Mike Jarecki. I'm Craig Riel Loup. 927 00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:53,879 Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next time here on Cardinals Cover 928 00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:54,160 Speaker 1: two