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Speaker 2: So anyway, pretty cool stuff in here. We welcome into
Speaker 2: the playbook. It's our training Camp edition. Today is the
Speaker 2: first day of NFL training Camp, which is really cool.
Speaker 2: So we're glad that the schedule worked out that we
Speaker 2: could be able to do the show today on the
Speaker 2: day one of training camp. We're gonna get to a
Speaker 2: lot of different stuff. You''re streaming at home and you're
Speaker 2: probably figuring out, Hey, I got some nice looking young
Speaker 2: people in the studio with me, and we mentioned this
Speaker 2: last month. We'll mention it again here. But our July
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Speaker 2: of where we are with that. But I'll introduce everybody
Speaker 2: here in just a moment. But the idea of the
Speaker 2: show today because these guys covered camp today, all right,
Speaker 2: So everybody covered camp. Everybody had a specific assignment in
Speaker 2: order to be able to cover camp today. And so
Speaker 2: they're going to bring you their thoughts, their research, their opinions,
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Speaker 2: Well you'll have to do with Chase over here first.
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Speaker 2: you know, I don't know, you leg whip them, what
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Speaker 2: introduce everybody here from left my left to right so
Speaker 2: you can understand who's yapping at you today. Chase Stevens
Speaker 2: is actually going to be an incoming freshman at Dean
Speaker 2: College and we'll be on the football team. This false
Speaker 2: of Chase. Welcome. Appreciate you, thank you for being here,
Speaker 2: Thank you for having me. What do you think of
Speaker 2: our new studio?
Speaker 4: I think it is beautiful. Everything here is just amazing.
Speaker 4: You know that, the desks, the seats, Yeah, everything is here.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And you don't have to feel like you're getting
Speaker 2: up a high chair. So that's really good. I think
Speaker 2: we can all appreciate that.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 2: Daniel Piaseki Daniel is uh? Are you also coming into
Speaker 2: Are you a senior or you're going to be a freshman?
Speaker 6: So I'm going to my junior year.
Speaker 2: Junior year, yes, okay, and where you and where do
Speaker 2: you live?
Speaker 7: Uh?
Speaker 8: So I live in Randolph, Vermont, which is near the capital, Montpelier,
Speaker 8: about thirty five minutes south.
Speaker 2: And yeah, I didn't realize we're getting good geography. Listen. Okay, So, Daniel,
Speaker 2: thanks buddy, appreciate you.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: To my immediate right is Jack grossek that I pronounce
Speaker 2: it right, It's Grassic? Okay, I already screwed it up. Okay,
Speaker 2: Well that's okay, it's one today.
Speaker 3: Close are the mics everybody?
Speaker 2: Yeah? So Jack Grassic? Thank you? What year are you
Speaker 2: in school? Going into my senior year, going into your
Speaker 2: senior year? And you are from Rye, New York? Okay, right,
Speaker 2: New York? Are you a Jets fan? Giants fans fan
Speaker 2: Giants fan? Okay, I can almost accept that. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's it's I mean, there are a lot of Patriots
Speaker 2: fans that will hate the Giants forever because they ruined
Speaker 2: you know, seventeen and zero. But at the same time,
Speaker 2: you know, the Patriots have more championships than the Giants do,
Speaker 2: So I guess you have to look at the big picture.
Speaker 9: Right, Well, something happened in twenty ten.
Speaker 2: What happened in twenty ten? I don't know.
Speaker 9: It might have been Giants Patriots.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, well that's just one. That's just one. Although
Speaker 2: the Giants are undefeated against the Patriots in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: I guess we should mention that Adelina Auben is the
Speaker 2: young lady on our first panel here today, and she
Speaker 2: is a senior and goes to Mount Saint Charles Academy
Speaker 2: in one socket, Rhode Island. Right, yes, okay. And I
Speaker 2: mentioned Aaron Andrews because I think you said when we
Speaker 2: got started a couple of days ago, that that's the
Speaker 2: kind of job that you'd like to have. Is that
Speaker 2: still right?
Speaker 6: Yes, that's right.
Speaker 2: But tell tell me.
Speaker 10: Why I like being in front of a camera.
Speaker 11: I like sports. I think it's interesting you get to
Speaker 11: tell athlete story through recording and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that'll work. That would definitely work. She's
Speaker 2: good enough, good looking enough to be on camera, don't
Speaker 2: you think, guys? Yeah, absolutely, that helps. Okay, you can't
Speaker 2: be an ogre with big warts on your nose. That's
Speaker 2: not gonna work. No one wants to look at that.
Speaker 2: They don't want to look at me. I think this
Speaker 2: is the worst decision this program ever made by putting it,
Speaker 2: you know, the television stream on Patriot dot Com. But
Speaker 2: I didn't have any says so because Fred made me
Speaker 2: do it. So that's just kind of the way we
Speaker 2: roll here, all right. So I've got Adelina, I got Jack,
Speaker 2: I've got Daniel, I've got Chase.
Speaker 3: Here.
Speaker 2: They're the first of four groups that will actually be
Speaker 2: with us here on the program today. We have four
Speaker 2: major topics of discussion that we're gonna get to today.
Speaker 2: And I mentioned this when I put the show out
Speaker 2: on social media earlier today, because right now, I mean,
Speaker 2: let me start this way. What were your overall impressions
Speaker 2: of day one at practice today? What you saw out there.
Speaker 2: We didn't see a whole lot of exact stuff. We
Speaker 2: saw a lot of drill work, right, We saw a
Speaker 2: lot of kind of going through the motions. I mean,
Speaker 2: there was a little bit of seven on seven, there
Speaker 2: was a little bit of eleven on eleven. There was
Speaker 2: no hitting because nobody had on full pads today and
Speaker 2: full pad practice isn't gonna start really for another week
Speaker 2: or so. So what were just your overall impressions of
Speaker 2: kind of taking it in Well.
Speaker 8: First, I want to say all the guys when we
Speaker 8: met him, they were very nice, too awesome. And then
Speaker 8: I felt like that there's lots of a competitive energy
Speaker 8: there also at the camp too. I could tell that
Speaker 8: many people are like gunning for some spots. And I
Speaker 8: think that there were good vibes all around, and I
Speaker 8: think that it will be I think it was a
Speaker 8: good start for the first AID training game.
Speaker 2: Good vibes all the way around. I guess we need
Speaker 2: to play a little beach boys in here. Good good vibe. Okay, Chase,
Speaker 2: what did you think day one?
Speaker 4: I think it proved a lot. I think Jalen Rieger
Speaker 4: is really a great wars for the Patriots. I saw
Speaker 4: him catch so much crazy passes by Drake May and
Speaker 4: Dreck Oversa. I feel like the whole receiver corps could
Speaker 4: really be great for this new Patriots team, new offense.
Speaker 4: I feel like the defense is really good. We saw
Speaker 4: some breakups in the passes, some d line rushing the
Speaker 4: pass or too. It looked really good. The old line
Speaker 4: looked really good too. I think it's gonna be a
Speaker 4: great season for the Patriots.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, that's a pretty thorough recap, I would agree
Speaker 2: with you as far as the receivers are concerned. I honestly,
Speaker 2: I'm excited to see some of those young guys, you know,
Speaker 2: I want to see you know, Polk especially uh since
Speaker 2: he torched Mialma Mater in the national semifinal last January.
Speaker 2: But that I'm hoping whoever ends up being the quarterback
Speaker 2: by mid season and beyond, if they end up, you know,
Speaker 2: going that route, I'm hoping that they find the go
Speaker 2: to answer out of the guys that they have on
Speaker 2: the roster. Jack, what did you think overall day one
Speaker 2: of practice?
Speaker 12: Uh, it's just similar to what Chase said about their
Speaker 12: receiving corps. I mean, Drake May had a few really
Speaker 12: nice connections, especially Osbourne and Javon Baker, throwing really deep
Speaker 12: sometimes he was just contest in the pocket, got out
Speaker 12: and made his pass and ran.
Speaker 2: Okay, Adelena, you want to add anything to that.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I kind of agree with.
Speaker 2: Whomever.
Speaker 11: Yeah, Daniel said, sorry everybody's name for a second. Daniel said,
Speaker 11: everyone was very nice when we were talking to them
Speaker 11: after when they were giving out signatures. They were all
Speaker 11: really extremely nice and they all seem to be in
Speaker 11: really good spirits after camp and stuff like that. So
Speaker 11: I think going into that having that attitude is really
Speaker 11: good for a starting point for them.
Speaker 2: It's probably not a surprise that, you know, they would
Speaker 2: have good attitudes going in. It's just day one. They
Speaker 2: haven't had to sweat. Basically, nobody's popped them in the mouth,
Speaker 2: no coaches really yelled at them yet. So, I mean,
Speaker 2: day one a camp, it is like day one a
Speaker 2: kindergarten as far as i'm p you know, it's, hey,
Speaker 2: let's everybody make nice and play. You know, blocks are
Speaker 2: over there, crayons are over there. I mean that's kind
Speaker 2: of how the first day at camp really goes. But
Speaker 2: we'll find out more once they put on the pads
Speaker 2: and things start popping, and that won't happen until probably
Speaker 2: next week, by around midweek next week, or I think
Speaker 2: day off next week is Wednesday, so probably by Thursday
Speaker 2: next week, another week, and then we'll see, you know,
Speaker 2: this get a little bit more physical, all right. So
Speaker 2: the question that we had for you guys, and to me,
Speaker 2: this is almost the number one question overall for the
Speaker 2: Patriots going into the new season, going into training cap
Speaker 2: this being day one today, and I know that This
Speaker 2: is front of mind for almost every fan that follows
Speaker 2: this team because other than having a new coach and
Speaker 2: coach Belichick moving on and Drod Mayo and his staff
Speaker 2: coming in new is the first time that there's been
Speaker 2: this kind of a changeover in the staff in more
Speaker 2: than twelve over twenty years. You know, there's another new
Speaker 2: quarterback that they hope that they will find a way
Speaker 2: to come in and be, you know, maybe even half
Speaker 2: as successful as a guy named Tom Brady was. So
Speaker 2: the first question of the day really has to do
Speaker 2: with the quarterbacks on this roster, but more specifically Brissett
Speaker 2: versus may at the quarterback position. And I just kind
Speaker 2: of like to know what you guys think, because I
Speaker 2: know we all know, and I think even the players know,
Speaker 2: and I think Jacoby Brissett knows. He knows when he
Speaker 2: was brought in here that the job maybe his right now.
Speaker 2: But they drafted Drake Maye for a reason. They drafted
Speaker 2: him to be the future of the franchise, the future
Speaker 2: face of the franchise, the future you know, TB twelve
Speaker 2: of the franchise, whatever you want to call it. So
Speaker 2: that's what they did, and I'm curious to know what
Speaker 2: you guys think. What the pros and the cons are
Speaker 2: of starting the rookie over the veteran at quarterback. What's
Speaker 2: good about it? What's bad about it? What should the
Speaker 2: Patriots do? Do you have an opinion one way or
Speaker 2: the other? Uh Drod Mail went out of his way
Speaker 2: when the team reported on Tuesday to say that Brissett
Speaker 2: was his starter. Brissette is his starter.
Speaker 11: So.
Speaker 2: We'll assume sometimes it's difficult when he assumes you gotta
Speaker 2: watch that, but will assume that the job is open
Speaker 2: for competition, right, and that you know, the rookie can
Speaker 2: work his way in. Or maybe I don't know. Am
Speaker 2: I leaving out? You know? You know Bailey's appy? Am
Speaker 2: I leaving out? You know? Joe Milton? I mean, I'm
Speaker 2: leaving these guys out of the competition here, although clearly
Speaker 2: one of them is going to stick simply because of
Speaker 2: the way the roster breaks down, and you can never
Speaker 2: have too many. So let's start with, you know, Brissett
Speaker 2: versus May and see how these other guys kind of
Speaker 2: fit in. What were your impressions of what you saw
Speaker 2: the two guys today atally? And I'll start with you.
Speaker 11: I would say that Prissette, I think he already knows
Speaker 11: that when they drafted May that he would probably be
Speaker 11: a leader to him, so he would kind of just
Speaker 11: follow in like the veteran. He's a veteran, so he's
Speaker 11: gonna guide him in the background of it and stuff
Speaker 11: like that. And I think them have Patriots having a
Speaker 11: very young receiver as their like receiver, that I think
Speaker 11: that starting a new quarterback can help them like grow,
Speaker 11: and that Brissette will help him as well.
Speaker 2: Okay with that, Okay, all right, but once you jump
Speaker 2: in on this, all right, Chase, go.
Speaker 4: Yeah, what's called when when you put a young quarterback
Speaker 4: out there without any help you need Like look at
Speaker 4: Zach Wilson at the Jets. Yep, he didn't not have
Speaker 4: any help the first year. He just got thrown into there.
Speaker 4: That's why he didn't do that good. Second year when
Speaker 4: he tried, they got Aaron Rodgers, right, he got injured
Speaker 4: the first game, so he couldn't really really developed.
Speaker 2: We still don't know where Rodgers is going to go,
Speaker 2: right until we actually see him out there in the field.
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, So we could have really developed Zach Wilson
Speaker 4: as good as he could have been That's that's why
Speaker 4: I feel like they should really just put in Jacob Bersett.
Speaker 4: Jacob said, for like the first half of the year.
Speaker 4: Let Drake May put in the next half of the year.
Speaker 4: See how good he could do with the Patriots in
Speaker 4: their new offense.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, Daniel, you want to jump in on
Speaker 2: this too and let me know what you think about.
Speaker 2: You know, the advantages of taking a guy like Drake
Speaker 2: May and throwing him in the fire early. Is there
Speaker 2: such a thing? Yeah?
Speaker 8: I mean, like, I mean, I kind of also wanted
Speaker 8: to add on to what Jay said about then giving
Speaker 8: May maybe some experience.
Speaker 6: To see what it's like, just.
Speaker 8: Uh maybe on the bench for a couple of games,
Speaker 8: just to see, I mean, because obviously NFL experience is
Speaker 8: like a lot different from college. So I think that
Speaker 8: him having a couple of games is to see what
Speaker 8: the defense is like, reading that maybe from the bench,
Speaker 8: seeming like on his tablet and stuff, and then with
Speaker 8: help from verseet and but then to answer you your
Speaker 8: question about what would be good about him maybe being
Speaker 8: thrown at the fire is I mean, remember what you
Speaker 8: were telling us about getting reps being announcer, him getting
Speaker 8: reps as quarterback in this level be I mean great.
Speaker 2: Yeah see. I to me, that's the key here because
Speaker 2: you know, and you guys know this. I've preached this
Speaker 2: over the last few days since you know, we started
Speaker 2: your camp experience, so to speak. But I just think,
Speaker 2: I mean, I learned to swim, guys, when I was
Speaker 2: five years old and the teacher threw me into the
Speaker 2: deep end of the pool. Yeah right, I mean I
Speaker 2: learned just you know, and he basically said swim, and
Speaker 2: so I had to learn to claw my way back up.
Speaker 2: I think there's something to be said for that. Now.
Speaker 2: Was he gonna let me drown? No, there's someone hovering
Speaker 2: over you, and so to me, Jacoby Brissette is the
Speaker 2: kind of guy who's hovering over. He's gonna catch the
Speaker 2: rookie if he starts drowning. And I think the coaching
Speaker 2: staff and do that obviously, Alex vand Peldic Ofvins according
Speaker 2: quarterback coach, he's going to do that if they see
Speaker 2: the rookie having trouble. But if you're going to expend
Speaker 2: the number three pick of the draft on a quarterback,
Speaker 2: you have to know that he's got to be your guy.
Speaker 2: You think enough of the player to take him that high.
Speaker 2: He has to be your guy. Why are we going to,
Speaker 2: you know, baby him. I'm of the opinion we need
Speaker 2: to see what he can do pretty quickly. Now. If
Speaker 2: we find out very quickly that he's over his head,
Speaker 2: we can make that adjustment. I also understand the other
Speaker 2: side of it, because you don't want to risk okay,
Speaker 2: and I guess this will probably be a familiar euphemism
Speaker 2: over the next you know, a few weeks and months.
Speaker 2: But we don't want to pull a mac Jones here. Okay,
Speaker 2: we don't want to, you know. Yeah, And we don't
Speaker 2: want to be able to ruin the guy, you know,
Speaker 2: and give him wrong direction. And I'm not sure May
Speaker 2: is that kind of guy. But let's face it, you know,
Speaker 2: the coaches really are to blame for you know, Mac
Speaker 2: Jones's experience here. I don't really blame Mack even though
Speaker 2: he's a different quarterback. And I know that we couldn't
Speaker 2: even be probably mentioning his name when we're on the show,
Speaker 2: But I'm doing it in reference because nobody wants Drake
Speaker 2: May to turn out similarly. I don't think he's going
Speaker 2: to number one. Let's remember that Drake May was selected
Speaker 2: higher in the draft relatively speaking to where mac Jones
Speaker 2: was taken, even though they were both still first rounders.
Speaker 2: Different set of circumstances, different head coach, different offensive coordinators,
Speaker 2: so it's a lot different. But to me, I think
Speaker 2: they know more than just I don't know more than
Speaker 2: just you know, throwing in seven and sevens and eleven,
Speaker 2: and we need to see some you know, when the
Speaker 2: pads pop. I want to see what he's doing. I
Speaker 2: want to see what he's capable of. Now. The entire
Speaker 2: issue with this also hinges I believe on the offensive
Speaker 2: line in front of him, whether or not they can
Speaker 2: you know, protect for you know, naturally for him. Anyway, Jack,
Speaker 2: I'm wondering if if what you see and what you
Speaker 2: studied on both of these guys going in, if you
Speaker 2: see anything other than Drake should start? What about Jacoby
Speaker 2: in particular? And do you go along with the kind
Speaker 2: of the thought process here bringing the rookie lung more
Speaker 2: slowly or would you like to see him thrown into
Speaker 2: the fire.
Speaker 9: Well, I feel like kind of exactly what you said
Speaker 9: about it's problematic. We don't want to have a mac
Speaker 9: Jones situation.
Speaker 12: I feel like this team shouldn't be rushing anybody like
Speaker 12: they rushed Mac Jones.
Speaker 9: And he can develop on the bench. I mean, this
Speaker 9: team isn't.
Speaker 12: Trying to win the Super Bowl this year, and they're
Speaker 12: probably not going to try and do that for next
Speaker 12: two three years maybe, So now is the time where
Speaker 12: you have a few years. Let's be patient, Let's let
Speaker 12: him develop on the bench. Then throw him out there,
Speaker 12: right and then have perseet for when something happens.
Speaker 2: What if we throw him out there, guys, and he
Speaker 2: fails miserably? I mean, what happens then? Because then you
Speaker 2: have no backtrack? Okay, now what do we do? Do
Speaker 2: you go back to Jacoby? You have to go back
Speaker 2: to the draft. Do you let your third quarterback, whoever
Speaker 2: wins that job, do you let them come in and
Speaker 2: take a shot at it? And we're really kind of
Speaker 2: right back to where we were a year ago and more,
Speaker 2: you know, two years ago even, And I'm just wondering
Speaker 2: if that really serves a purpose at all. What do
Speaker 2: you think?
Speaker 4: I feel like, if he fails, you got to give
Speaker 4: him more time to develop. That's the point of developed players,
Speaker 4: because like if they fail, you have that veteran leadership
Speaker 4: to get him better and better. You know, with Jacoby
Speaker 4: Brissett there, if he starts feeling, you can put Jacoby
Speaker 4: back in because he has that veteran experience, so he
Speaker 4: knows what it's like to like fail to be.
Speaker 2: In the back.
Speaker 4: So like he could teach him all about like what
Speaker 4: to do in the offense, what to do when it's
Speaker 4: pressure on you, how to throw it deep all that.
Speaker 13: Yeah.
Speaker 8: Ok, And just to add on to what Chase is saying,
Speaker 8: I think I think sometimes people try to just like
Speaker 8: focus on perfection. And then for an example, last year,
Speaker 8: you saw a rookie quarterback for the Text and c J.
Speaker 2: Stroud.
Speaker 8: He comes in as a rookie and he has an
Speaker 8: outstanding year in my opinion, But I think that like,
Speaker 8: not everyone's gonna have that as a rookie. You know,
Speaker 8: you kind of have to, like we've been saying, give
Speaker 8: time for them to ease into the situation because everyone's
Speaker 8: situation is different. So I think that when May also
Speaker 8: gets used to I mean like his receivers, his running backs,
Speaker 8: his linemen, uh, And I mean then also the defenses
Speaker 8: in college are a lot different than in the NFL.
Speaker 8: In the NFL, there's like tight like not as much space.
Speaker 8: So I think that when May gets used to that,
Speaker 8: I think it, I mean, will be good for him.
Speaker 8: And then also Brissette will definitely be helping him with
Speaker 8: breaths and stuff and just be NFL quarterback.
Speaker 2: How does this and then you know, anybody cance this,
Speaker 2: But how does this scenario as just playing out help
Speaker 2: or hurt the team? The guys that have to rally
Speaker 2: around whoever is under center, whoever is the quarterback, and
Speaker 2: whoever wins this battle? You know, are we you know?
Speaker 2: Is is Jacoby just babysitting the job until Drake you know,
Speaker 2: can get rid of the training pants and move up
Speaker 2: into it. How does that affect the team?
Speaker 4: I think it really it's really good for the team
Speaker 4: because Jacoby Satt is a really good quarterback.
Speaker 2: He saw by the coach a few years ago.
Speaker 4: Even at the Commanders last year he got him two
Speaker 4: times and he was really good. So I feel like,
Speaker 4: whoever route they want to go, I think it's a
Speaker 4: really good route. Drake May put him at a start.
Speaker 4: Jacob Brissett, you can start him. They're both good. Does
Speaker 4: it doesn't matter which.
Speaker 2: So it shouldn't matter all to the team. Anybody what
Speaker 2: anybody different that.
Speaker 11: With that, I feel like Brissette has more experience with
Speaker 11: game experience, but like the NFL, he just got mega
Speaker 11: out of college, so he's not really used to the
Speaker 11: game speed, or the defensive schemes or anything that goes
Speaker 11: on in the game. So I feel like you would
Speaker 11: have to sit the bench for a couple of games
Speaker 11: and have Brissette start before he jumps in and sees
Speaker 11: how the game is played and what he needs to
Speaker 11: do and learn those schemes and.
Speaker 2: Stuff like that. But let me ask you this. Let's
Speaker 2: say Drake comes in and just rips it apart for
Speaker 2: the rest of training camp here. You know, maybe he
Speaker 2: has a particularly good exhibition game you know that's coming
Speaker 2: up here, or you know, when the Eagles come in
Speaker 2: and they're expected to be a Super Bowl contender in
Speaker 2: the NFC this year, when they come in and they
Speaker 2: do the joint practice is in a couple of weeks
Speaker 2: and Drake shines, right, do you still think Jacoby should
Speaker 2: you know, start the first couple of games that count
Speaker 2: and continue to bring him along or do you try
Speaker 2: to ride some of the momentum that the rookie quarterback
Speaker 2: may have built up for himself and put him out there.
Speaker 2: I'm just curious how you guys feel, because to me,
Speaker 2: I'm always one that likes to play the hot hand. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, it's a baseball analogy. But look if the
Speaker 2: guy is four for his last six of the plate
Speaker 2: with three knocks, you know, I guess what, dude, you're
Speaker 2: in the lineup today. You're not taking a day off.
Speaker 2: That's how I kind of look at it. I want
Speaker 2: him in there and playing now. The other side of
Speaker 2: that is is that, well, okay, you're putting your star,
Speaker 2: You're putting your future hope at risk in a game
Speaker 2: that might be meaningless until the regular season starts, and
Speaker 2: then they're going to kind of you know, they'll start
Speaker 2: to count. So just kind of curious how you balance
Speaker 2: the two and is there a right way to handle this.
Speaker 11: I'm not sure.
Speaker 2: I don't think at least that's an honest answer. That's
Speaker 2: an honest answer.
Speaker 9: Well, I mean he hasn't played an NFL game yet.
Speaker 12: Yeah, so having the critique of oh, this these are reps,
Speaker 12: but these it's like he could also get injured. It's like, no,
Speaker 12: he needs the reps. You could say any game you
Speaker 12: would get injured.
Speaker 2: You know that's true. Okay, yeah, what are we missing
Speaker 2: here about this whole quarterback derby? This is whatever everybody
Speaker 2: wants to talk about. We know that. You know, hey,
Speaker 2: when we talked about this in our class yesterday, when
Speaker 2: I brought this topic up, you know, you guys are happy.
Speaker 2: The rest of the classes are like, oh, they got
Speaker 2: the quarterback because that's what everybody wants to talk about.
Speaker 2: I understand that. From a fans perspective, Yeah, sure, this
Speaker 2: is the future of this team. Everybody is so anxious
Speaker 2: to see, you know, Patriots fans anyway, the rest of
Speaker 2: the NFL is kind of like, oh, God, go away.
Speaker 2: But yeah, but I'm waiting for that moment, waiting for
Speaker 2: that moment when you know, media can say, hey, maybe
Speaker 2: the Patriots are back a little bit quicker than normal.
Speaker 2: What's the best way to get there? What I mean?
Speaker 2: You know, this is a it's a it's an overwhelming story.
Speaker 2: You clearly don't think it will harm the team one
Speaker 2: way or the other, because the team is going to
Speaker 2: be Hey, we'll be whoever's out there, We're going to
Speaker 2: rally around, which is a good, veteran way, an experienced
Speaker 2: way to look at it. I'm just I'm kind of
Speaker 2: fishing for for negatives here, for lack of a better phrase.
Speaker 8: I mean, I think that kind of what you were
Speaker 8: saying about what would make like capitalize like the playmakers
Speaker 8: on the roster, and I think that I mean, again,
Speaker 8: like we've said a lot, having like the veteran leadership
Speaker 8: for not just the quarterback situation, but with kJ Osborne
Speaker 8: who's been in the league for some time, and then
Speaker 8: with Polk and Baker, I think then he'll Polk and
Speaker 8: Baker will definitely learn from Osbourne.
Speaker 6: And then I think just.
Speaker 8: Having your playmakers like the new, like the new, the
Speaker 8: new guys on the team, having like a support system
Speaker 8: that will increase not just their skill but just like
Speaker 8: their mental approach of playing NFL football.
Speaker 2: Okay, anybody want to add to what Daniel said there?
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Speaker 2: go places. You guys want to take a phone call? Yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: we want to do that. Eldred all right, Eldred's up first.
Speaker 2: Eldred's been sitting there. Oh, I got this control of myself.
Speaker 2: Look at this. The monitor is eight miles away from
Speaker 2: in here. Let me see if I can do this. Oh,
Speaker 2: you got him, you got him. I popped them on, Eldred.
Speaker 2: What's up man?
Speaker 14: Hey, mister legend, what's up?
Speaker 2: Baby?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 14: I see why we yeah, I see why we get
Speaker 14: along with both Campus July second.
Speaker 2: Okay, well then, happy belated to you too, bro.
Speaker 14: Yes sir, yes sir.
Speaker 2: Are we traveling today? Uh?
Speaker 14: No, I'm off today. I took a day off. Good
Speaker 14: for you, the batteries for a little bit.
Speaker 2: I got you, I got you. And plus it's day
Speaker 2: one of training camp, right right, okay, right.
Speaker 14: I wish I could have saw more, but I heard
Speaker 14: something from from the p U crew and this and that,
Speaker 14: and I'm just you know, I got my palm, palm ready,
Speaker 14: popcorn ready, crying towel.
Speaker 2: Ready to cry.
Speaker 14: Because crying tile too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you think it could? You think you could
Speaker 2: still be ugly? Then?
Speaker 14: Huh uh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 15: Uh.
Speaker 14: It's because it's new new players, new coaches, the first
Speaker 14: time the regimes done changed over. So you know, expectations
Speaker 14: ain't that high, but it's a little high, you know.
Speaker 14: So I just hope, just I just hope, you know, uh,
Speaker 14: just they got to suck a toughest schedule, so it's
Speaker 14: gonna be a little rough, you know. I just hope
Speaker 14: I can have my mom if I can laugh a
Speaker 14: little bit instead of being the better of the joke
Speaker 14: like I was last year.
Speaker 6: But other than that, okay, all right, I take that.
Speaker 2: What do you think of the question that that you know,
Speaker 2: our first team has to kind of discuss your today
Speaker 2: in the whole reset versus may derby a quarterback? I
Speaker 2: think I know which corner you fall in, but maybe
Speaker 2: you can sort of enlighten everybody here. If Drake is
Speaker 2: ready to play, should he?
Speaker 14: Yes, sir, uh he should. If he's ready to play,
Speaker 14: you should? You picked him three overall, and I'm like
Speaker 14: you and like, well, some of those guys I used
Speaker 14: to coach to not not professionally. So I went with
Speaker 14: the guy who was better, and I took my lump,
Speaker 14: and I also took my win, you know, so that's
Speaker 14: what you have to do. You're gonna take it either
Speaker 14: way it goes. Was it either rookie or the second
Speaker 14: year of quarterback or a three year quarterback? Because everybody
Speaker 14: gonna make mistakes, because everybody just see about just third
Speaker 14: team and everything. So but I started right off the back.
Speaker 14: You got him number three overall. Put him out there,
Speaker 14: bad line or no bad line, and see and see.
Speaker 2: All right, let's say again, just for argument's sake here,
Speaker 2: let's say that Jacoby Brissett is clearly the better of
Speaker 2: the two guys in training camp, and Drake is a
Speaker 2: little behind the eight ball. Maybe he's not picking it
Speaker 2: up as quickly, and I have seen nothing in day
Speaker 2: one that would indicate that would happen. But we didn't
Speaker 2: see a heck of a lot today. We saw little
Speaker 2: eleven and eleven, We saw little seven on seven right,
Speaker 2: guys seemed to be a bit okay. But he didn't
Speaker 2: get all of the reps. You know, I saw Jacoby
Speaker 2: Brissett with several reps. All four quarterbacks got reps today,
Speaker 2: So they did a pretty good job of I think
Speaker 2: splitting things relatively even. But let's just say for argument's
Speaker 2: sake that May is not better than Jacoby, then what
Speaker 2: do you do?
Speaker 14: I said him for a whole year. Okay, I'll go
Speaker 14: I ride with Jacoby, you know, and then May he's learning,
Speaker 14: you know, because I'm gonna be honest, I'm not into
Speaker 14: May Camp. I wasn't doing the draft procedure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember that, you know, I remember that.
Speaker 14: And like I tell everybody, I ain't from Missouri, but
Speaker 14: you got to show I see them two years in
Speaker 14: North Carolina and here he'll do some plays that well
Speaker 14: while the heck got again, and you you think, okay,
Speaker 14: this guy got it, he got it. Then you see
Speaker 14: some players like what the heck? You know, what was
Speaker 14: you thinking? You know? And it's just that he proved
Speaker 14: me prove otherwise. And this game is a little bit
Speaker 14: faster than college. And like I said, everybody keeps saying, well,
Speaker 14: you ain't. I'm giving them a chance. But I see
Speaker 14: him get better teams and better defense. And he bowled.
Speaker 14: He can't throw good in cold weather and in the rain,
Speaker 14: because like you said, he never been out North Carolina.
Speaker 14: With that rainy day in Clemson and with North uh,
Speaker 14: New Mexico, don't make whatever came and played him. They
Speaker 14: beat the devil line in the bad weather. He just
Speaker 14: wasn't act. He wasn't He wasn't there. I ad meant
Speaker 14: that he was twenty nineteen twenty or something like that.
Speaker 14: You know, he's twenty one now. He's the youngest of
Speaker 14: all the quarterbacks in the draft. And you know, he
Speaker 14: got a lot of upside. I give him that, but
Speaker 14: you got to put it on the field. You gotta
Speaker 14: put it on the field. And he started, and everybody
Speaker 14: keep knocking Milton, and I'm like, okay, maybe he's not
Speaker 14: what everybody think, but this team would ranked when one
Speaker 14: in the country. And he led him and he wild
Speaker 14: him to get good arm whatever, And I figured, if
Speaker 14: it comes down to it, it's gonna be May and Milton.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh really that's standing. Okay, all right, all right,
Speaker 2: now you mentioned all right, so if if Jacoby struggles,
Speaker 2: I mean, excuse me, and May struggles, then you sit
Speaker 2: him for the whole year. What if all of a
Speaker 2: sudden he picks it up at mid season by week
Speaker 2: eight or week nine, or maybe even week eleven or twelve,
Speaker 2: and I guess you probably have to consider, all right,
Speaker 2: where the team is at the edge, right, where the team.
Speaker 14: At right okay, but they with Jakoby. If they were
Speaker 14: Jacoby and they like they say five and three or
Speaker 14: four and four, I'm gonna ride Chacoby for a couple
Speaker 14: more weeks, you know. But if they drop below that,
Speaker 14: they two and five or three and six, you know,
Speaker 14: I'm still I probably let him play the last two games,
Speaker 14: but I'm not gonna put him in the mixing between
Speaker 14: because that ain't gonna be a fair of evaluation. I'm sorry,
Speaker 14: I'm not because there's a reason why Jacoby is doing it.
Speaker 14: Either the line, or it's the receiver, or it's something.
Speaker 14: And now May got that running a so that Jakobe,
Speaker 14: but chakobeemed to be a be not as di maatic
Speaker 14: as made because May younger. But you know, but Chakobe
Speaker 14: can run also, and so Canmilton. But you know that's
Speaker 14: I would still have to sit for maybe the last
Speaker 14: two games the other seasons and play and then this year. Okay, May,
Speaker 14: it's your team from now.
Speaker 2: Anybody have anyth ded with, anybody, have any agreement disagreement
Speaker 2: with that.
Speaker 4: I disagree about him and Sam are gonna be the
Speaker 4: last two standing. I think Bailey Zappi really has a good,
Speaker 4: good chance of being getting away.
Speaker 14: No way. Tell me why you yeah.
Speaker 2: Tell me why you think Bailey Zabbit could stick?
Speaker 4: Like we saw him in training camp, he looked really
Speaker 4: good at training camp. All the throws he did were
Speaker 4: really accurate. Everything he did he was he was really
Speaker 4: smart with his decisions. And even last year he was
Speaker 4: pretty good when he summed him in for Mac Jones
Speaker 4: for like half of the season, he looked pretty good
Speaker 4: out there. I think he really has a shot at
Speaker 4: still being that number one quarterback for the New England Patriots.
Speaker 2: I would say probably not one. I would say probably
Speaker 2: not number one. I'm gonna side with Elderd on that one. However,
Speaker 2: there is there is a shot that he could stick
Speaker 2: with this team. My best guess though, is that he's
Speaker 2: going to have some value and that somebody who needs
Speaker 2: a veteran now veteran because he's a couple of years
Speaker 2: into the league now a backup quarterback, that's he could
Speaker 2: be cannon fodder for a trade bait somewhere.
Speaker 14: Connect that guy question.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, okay, you're you're, you're.
Speaker 14: What you've seen is Zapi And there was a couple
Speaker 14: of games in games that he played last year, he's
Speaker 14: another version of mac Jones, you know, and then he
Speaker 14: fold Like I said, he's here, he'll do some wild plays.
Speaker 14: He do the other play. His arm is not that strong,
Speaker 14: he's not that accurate, and he sure ain't that mode.
Speaker 14: So what what do you What do you see that
Speaker 14: makes you think that was sick?
Speaker 2: All right, Chase, I don't see it yet. It go see.
Speaker 4: He was definitely not like mac Jones. First of all,
Speaker 4: Mac mac Jones. Some of the those I saw him
Speaker 4: throw were horrible, like.
Speaker 14: That did something too, Yeah.
Speaker 4: He did like the things the things that Max Jones
Speaker 4: said was disgusting. Right, But Bailey's appy, right, He's still
Speaker 4: he still could definitely definitely be the number one quarterback.
Speaker 14: Because like we saw you one quarterback, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Number one quarterback. Definitely definitely number one. All right, Hey,
Speaker 2: Eldrick Elder, Chase is a Giants fan, so that I'll
Speaker 2: give you a clue.
Speaker 14: Oh okay, so yeah, I got but he's doing it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly. But I gotta give the Giant. I
Speaker 2: gotta give Giant fan a lot of credit today because
Speaker 2: he you know, he put his neutral hat on today
Speaker 2: and he went out, he studied football and watched these
Speaker 2: guys today, so I gotta give him some credit where
Speaker 2: credit is due. All right, guys, we're gonna get onto
Speaker 2: the next subject. Eldred, thank you, appreciate your time. As always, Pal,
Speaker 2: we're gonna talk more. We're gonna stand on the offensive
Speaker 2: set of the ball coming up in a moment. We're
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Speaker 2: gonna have a little bit more well maybe a little
Speaker 2: more intrigue just because of sheer numbers involved here. We're
Speaker 2: not really talking about two guys, We're talking about a
Speaker 2: half a dozen or more. So we'll get onto the
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Speaker 3: Eight?
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Speaker 2: in the playbook, and we welcome in our second group
Speaker 2: of Dean College sports broadcasting students. I'll introduce Patrick Dacy.
Speaker 2: Did I pronounce you? Right? Yeah? You pronounce I'm good?
Speaker 2: All right? Patrick? What year you in school? And where
Speaker 2: are you from?
Speaker 3: I'm going into my senior year. I'm from Hopkinson, Massachusetts, Hopkinson.
Speaker 2: All right, so we have a local. Good. So is
Speaker 2: there any shot that you're a Patriots fan?
Speaker 10: Big Tom?
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, we'll say that's a step in the
Speaker 2: right direction. Dawson, Debari, it's over here to my right now. So, Dawson,
Speaker 2: I know you're actually going to be an incoming freshman
Speaker 2: at Dean this fall. Right, yep, what's your hometown.
Speaker 19: I'm from Swanscott, Massachusetts, Swampscott.
Speaker 2: Are you also a Patriot.
Speaker 20: Fans only since birth?
Speaker 2: I guess that means something? Then, Nick julinis or is
Speaker 2: it Jelinas? Would I say it right?
Speaker 11: No?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 2: That it right?
Speaker 20: Johnny?
Speaker 7: Right?
Speaker 2: Okay, and you are what a junior in high school?
Speaker 6: Yes, I'm gonna be a you're in high school?
Speaker 2: Okay? And where are you from?
Speaker 5: I am from a lot of New Hampshire. So if
Speaker 5: you know New Hampshire Motor Speedway, same town.
Speaker 2: Right, okay? Yeah, we do know New Hampshire Motor Speedway. Noah, Laspina,
Speaker 2: Did I get it right?
Speaker 11: No?
Speaker 2: We did, okay.
Speaker 20: And your hometown is Wendham, New Hampshire.
Speaker 2: Okay, so I got two New Hampshire's and two Massachusetts
Speaker 2: New England rules on this one. Right. We picked this team, right,
Speaker 2: I think? Didn't we on Rhode Island? So let's go Yeah? Right, okay,
Speaker 2: I guess I count a little bit right.
Speaker 16: You've earned it with the Friars earned it.
Speaker 2: Well maybe, but I'm also mass see, I'm also a masshole,
Speaker 2: so that's right. In fact, I live in the same
Speaker 2: town that we have somebody on the line here that
Speaker 2: I wanted to bring onto the show. Let me hold,
Speaker 2: can I get it here? Yeah? Oh, I got it.
Speaker 2: There it is Josh is in Westport. Hey, Josh, how
Speaker 2: are you? Josh isn't there? Maybe Josh hung up because
Speaker 2: I think I think Adelina said she knew a Josh
Speaker 2: in Westport. Okay, well, Josh, you want to call back,
Speaker 2: you can. We'll leave it at that, all right, So
Speaker 2: we're gonna move on to topic number two today. We've
Speaker 2: kind of spent some time with the quarterbacks. But I
Speaker 2: mentioned before we took the break that offensively speaking, the
Speaker 2: other real focus on this team is at wide receiver.
Speaker 2: You know, I for one, am not really sold on
Speaker 2: labels for wide receivers. Oh god, how can the Patriots play?
Speaker 2: They don't have a one, you know, And who's gonna
Speaker 2: be the two, And who's gonna play the slot, and
Speaker 2: who's gonna be the tight end? And who guys? I mean, honestly,
Speaker 2: catch the ball, run with the ball, score touchdowns with
Speaker 2: the ball. That's what we need here. Now. Whether or
Speaker 2: not that makes you a one or a seven, I
Speaker 2: don't really care one way or the other. I'm kind
Speaker 2: of curious what your overall viewpoint is of the wide
Speaker 2: receiver corps as it presently consists. Now we know that
Speaker 2: there are more guys on this team right now in
Speaker 2: the ninety man roster than are gonna stick it on
Speaker 2: this team, and we all get all the way down
Speaker 2: to fifty three in another month or so right, So, well,
Speaker 2: what's your overall impression of where the roster is now?
Speaker 2: And I think we also realize, of course that well,
Speaker 2: the question I had for you today was who's likely
Speaker 2: to play on this team and who's likely to go?
Speaker 2: Which wide receivers stick and which ones move on? All right, Dawson,
Speaker 2: do you want to start?
Speaker 10: Sure?
Speaker 19: I think on the ninety minter roster right now, you
Speaker 19: really only have four guys that are completely locked in
Speaker 19: to a roster spot. Obviously Kendrick Bourne dealing with the
Speaker 19: ACL injury, but once he's ready, he's going to play. Obviously,
Speaker 19: the two rookies that you spent high draft picks on
Speaker 19: you want them to play, so I'm sure that they'll
Speaker 19: be locked on the roster. And the other one is
Speaker 19: to Mario Douglas, who was the leading receiver last year,
Speaker 19: albeit it was only five hundred and something yards. Ye,
Speaker 19: but you're looking to see him develop more in a
Speaker 19: slot role and not having to carry the outside role
Speaker 19: for this team this year.
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Speaker 2: know you're jumping at the bit to go, so take
Speaker 2: that one as well. What do you think?
Speaker 5: Yeah, so what Dawson said, I love that, you know,
Speaker 5: Jalen Polk, Javon Baker, those two rookies I think are
Speaker 5: gonna be big, and we saw them today in training
Speaker 5: camp Day one. I really liked what I was seeing
Speaker 5: from them, and also Tomorrio Douglas. Now, my hope with
Speaker 5: these three is that they're going to develop with Drake
Speaker 5: May and I think that these three could be kind
Speaker 5: of this is a big statement, but I think they
Speaker 5: could be the big three for the Patriots.
Speaker 2: Really, okay, And the fact that they have a chance
Speaker 2: to kind of grow together from a young age, that's.
Speaker 6: Helpful, I believe.
Speaker 5: So I think that getting those reps with Drake May,
Speaker 5: especially we saw it today, I think that's gonna help them.
Speaker 2: What did you see maybe that you didn't expect to
Speaker 2: see from any of those guys today? Did you see anything,
Speaker 2: notice anything.
Speaker 6: I noticed.
Speaker 5: Jalen Polk actually at the beginning was taking punt returns.
Speaker 5: I saw that. I was not expecting that. So that
Speaker 5: was kind of a shock to me.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, Noah, what do you think?
Speaker 6: What overall?
Speaker 2: You know, how does this group sort of rate who's
Speaker 2: likely to stay, who's likely to go?
Speaker 21: Going into this, I was skeptical of two players. That
Speaker 21: was Jalen Rager and uh sorry uh Jalen Raeger and
Speaker 21: Juju smith Schuster. Two of these guys really struggled. Now,
Speaker 21: I think that Juju smith Shuster has a big chance
Speaker 21: of getting cut, mainly because of that big contract that
Speaker 21: three years, twenty five million they gave him. Now he
Speaker 21: hasn't lived, he hasn't played up to that contract yet. Yeah,
Speaker 21: two years left, and I wouldn't be surprised if he's
Speaker 21: not on the roster. However, he could make it because
Speaker 21: because they need they need the receivers obviously, and I
Speaker 21: know that Kendrick Bourne, he in my opinion, is the
Speaker 21: most locked receiver.
Speaker 20: The other receiver that.
Speaker 2: But Kendrick Bourne is also recovering from mayr knee surgery. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so if you need a veteran presence in that lineup.
Speaker 2: Is that the only is that the way Juju hangs around? Yeah,
Speaker 2: especially if if uh, you know, Kendrick can't play at
Speaker 2: least right away.
Speaker 20: Yeah.
Speaker 21: And the other person I was skeptical on was Jalen Rager. See,
Speaker 21: I think he will make the roster as a kick returner.
Speaker 21: He had some very good kick returning plays, but I
Speaker 21: was skeptical, skeptical of him because of his playing style.
Speaker 21: He wasn't very good. However, today in training camp, he
Speaker 21: may be impressed. Big throw by Drake May and it
Speaker 21: was caught by him one hand. He reached out like
Speaker 21: that and he grabbed it next throat.
Speaker 20: It was. It was like a fire route.
Speaker 21: He beat, he beat the corner. Another big catch by him,
Speaker 21: caught it in right this and.
Speaker 20: He got the touchdown.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it was. It was probably maybe the single
Speaker 2: best play of the entire absolutely practice today. Right, all right, Patrick,
Speaker 2: what are your thoughts?
Speaker 3: Well, just a piggyback off what Noah said. I think
Speaker 3: that a reason Juju could stick around is really two
Speaker 3: reasons for me, right, So one of them is if
Speaker 3: they do cut Juju, there is a lot of dead
Speaker 3: money that comes with him, and the Pats have to
Speaker 3: pay that off, so it wouldn't really help them in
Speaker 3: that regard. Right Also, I think it was mentioned before
Speaker 3: that Juju is a veteran guy and he does have
Speaker 3: some leadership in the locker room. The Pats wide receivers
Speaker 3: right now, it's a pretty young group.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: You got Javon Baker, you got Polk, you got even
Speaker 3: like Pop Doug. They're all pretty young guys. And Juju
Speaker 3: is someone who is coming off a tough year, definitely
Speaker 3: a down year for him, but he has had success
Speaker 3: in the past and maybe you give him another shot
Speaker 3: to do that. So I say, if the roster was
Speaker 3: to be cut down today, he'd make it for those reasons.
Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, I think it
Speaker 3: comes down to production and how these guys will produce
Speaker 3: in the preseason. And I think that last one or
Speaker 3: two spots is really between Juju, Jalen Rager, Taekwon Thornton,
Speaker 3: and Kaishan BOUDI to get that some of those final Cats, can.
Speaker 6: You say that real quick?
Speaker 22: Ye?
Speaker 2: Of course?
Speaker 5: So we talked a bit about Juju. So Juju four
Speaker 5: hundred and sixty one offensive snaps last season on forty
Speaker 5: seven targets just twenty nine receptions. But my question for
Speaker 5: you guys is was the QB situation part of that number?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do have Yeah, I think I think that's
Speaker 2: actually a fair question to ask. You're not getting production
Speaker 2: with me quarterback, You're not getting production receivers and vice versa.
Speaker 19: Right, Yeah, I agree with that. I think it will
Speaker 19: be helpful to have. It seems like a veteran guide
Speaker 19: at Kobe Brissett's starting to start the year, at least
Speaker 19: because Bailey Zappi and Mac Jones were completely lost last year.
Speaker 19: The receivers were twenty ninth overall in PFF grade in
Speaker 19: creating separation, but the throwers weren't there for.
Speaker 20: Them to catch at the same time.
Speaker 19: So I think the new quarterback, the new offensive coordinator,
Speaker 19: we'll just have to wait and see how training camp goes.
Speaker 19: I think it's a huge training camp for some of
Speaker 19: these guys like Taekwon Thoron and Kashan Boody who haven't
Speaker 19: shown much in their young careers. And Booty had some
Speaker 19: legal issues and he didn't he kind of butt his
Speaker 19: heads a little bit last year with Belichick, So we'll
Speaker 19: see what Geron Mayo, Alex van Pelt what they can
Speaker 19: do to get these guys producing, and I think that'll
Speaker 19: have a big factor on how they decide the roster.
Speaker 2: The one guy that is a real enigma to me
Speaker 2: is Taekwon Thornton. All right, here's a guy that I
Speaker 2: watched him play at Baylor and I thought, Wow, he's
Speaker 2: got a lot of speed. But man, as he's skinny,
Speaker 2: you know, he's he's kind of slight. He reminded me
Speaker 2: a little bit of me when I was at age.
Speaker 2: If I turned sideways, I disappeared, you know, that kind
Speaker 2: of thing. But I didn't have the near kind of
Speaker 2: speed he's. He's, like I said, he's a big question mark.
Speaker 2: We don't know right now. He doesn't seem to be
Speaker 2: able to stay healthy enough to be able to benefit
Speaker 2: this team. I know they want to give him the
Speaker 2: benefit of the doubt because he was a higher, you know,
Speaker 2: draft pick, But it's got to be put up or
Speaker 2: shut up time with him right now, don't you think? Yeah? Definitely.
Speaker 19: I mean, he just hasn't stayed on the field. He's
Speaker 19: shown flashes. He had that two touchdown game against the
Speaker 19: Browns with Zappi in twenty twenty two, But I mean,
Speaker 19: the best quality is availability, and he just hasn't been
Speaker 19: available for them, and when he's there, he's been a
Speaker 19: complete non factor. So it's a big camp for Taegwon Thorton.
Speaker 21: Yeah, so you guys thought that Pop Douglas was gonna
Speaker 21: be on the roster at the start of season.
Speaker 20: What do you guys think?
Speaker 21: I'm pretty sure he did not play a snap in
Speaker 21: that eleven b Lemmer seventy seven.
Speaker 20: Today we guys think of that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was that was definitely interesting. I'm not really
Speaker 3: sure why that was. Maybe he's just resting for whatever
Speaker 3: reason that may be. But I just think that maybe
Speaker 3: the team wants to see more some of those bubble
Speaker 3: guys and what they can do. Because to Mario Douglass
Speaker 3: at this point, he's a lock. You know, he's probably
Speaker 3: if Kendrick Bourne isn't ready to go we one, he's
Speaker 3: probably their you know, top receiver there, and they want
Speaker 3: to see what guys behind him can have a big role,
Speaker 3: you know, even the guys that probably will make the roster,
Speaker 3: like can Polk step up as a rookie, Can you know,
Speaker 3: somebody like kJ Osborne who they got from Minnesota step
Speaker 3: up and play a big role there and even some
Speaker 3: of these bubble guys like, could you know Juju get
Speaker 3: back and have a bounce back year? Could Kaysehan Boody
Speaker 3: show you something, could Thwarton show you somethings? Maybe they
Speaker 3: just wanted to see that more.
Speaker 21: Yeah, they really put Jawen Polk to the test today.
Speaker 21: They put him against Christian Gonzales.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I saw that. It was a good matchup.
Speaker 10: Wasn't it very good?
Speaker 19: He won his route, but I think it was a
Speaker 19: Joe Milton at the time missed him.
Speaker 3: Uh he beat it.
Speaker 19: I think it was a curl route on Gonzalez and
Speaker 19: the throw is a little bit too high. But yeah,
Speaker 19: I'm excited for these two rookies. They have great upside,
Speaker 19: but you never know if Patriots recent draft history with receivers,
Speaker 19: you just want to see them on the field and
Speaker 19: show that they are an NFL level talent because like
Speaker 19: guys like Nikhil Harry, I guess you can put Taekwon
Speaker 19: Thorn in that conversation. Now that they've drafted and used
Speaker 19: high draft picks, have struggled to just prove that they
Speaker 19: are NFL worthy and they just don't have They have
Speaker 19: so many guys that are just complete question marks.
Speaker 5: Now, I know you guys talked a bit about Taekwon
Speaker 5: Thornton and how he's just not been able to get
Speaker 5: on the field, and just kind of approve that the
Speaker 5: last two NFL seasons he started the season on the
Speaker 5: ir list. Yep, so injuries during camp, so really he
Speaker 5: needs to stay healthy this camp.
Speaker 2: You got to be able to have a chance. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you got to play right, You gotta play all right.
Speaker 2: To other guys, I want to ask you about, first
Speaker 2: of all, Kayshaun Boody. All right, here's a guy that
Speaker 2: you know, a lot of fans thought this team stole
Speaker 2: in the draft a year ago, and he you know,
Speaker 2: for you know, he had a hard time getting on
Speaker 2: the field his first year. Now that he's overcome, we
Speaker 2: at least hope that he's overcome all of his off
Speaker 2: field issues and available to play. How much rope do
Speaker 2: they give this guy to play with? How much of
Speaker 2: a chance do they give him but to be you know,
Speaker 2: in that top five or six that's gonna end up
Speaker 2: making this team.
Speaker 20: I'm not sure sure about that.
Speaker 21: I saw two different sections there was it looked like
Speaker 21: there was first team on the right side and there
Speaker 21: was second team on the left I spotted I spotted
Speaker 21: Booty jack Wade Jackson, and Javon Baker there. And on
Speaker 21: the right side, I saw thor In, I saw Pop
Speaker 21: Douglass there and yeah, just like the starters. So I'm
Speaker 21: not sure if Boody has a chance at the top six.
Speaker 2: So you think he's already been relegated, Yeah, I.
Speaker 6: Think he has a small leash.
Speaker 5: I think they really have to see this training camp
Speaker 5: what he can do and he has to show up also.
Speaker 3: To add to that, I do agree with you. I
Speaker 3: think he does have a small leash, and he has
Speaker 3: kind of had some off the field issues, But honestly,
Speaker 3: in terms of talent and potential, I think he has
Speaker 3: as much of any of these guys. I mean, like
Speaker 3: he just has to go out there and perform and
Speaker 3: put that stuff behind him. I mean, if you're really
Speaker 3: looking at it, Ragers a good return guy, but in
Speaker 3: the NFL, he hasn't really been a polished wide receiver,
Speaker 3: right Taekwon Thornton too. The production just hasn't been there,
Speaker 3: you know. And then Juju's coming off some injuries.
Speaker 10: He's coming off a tough year.
Speaker 3: So realistically, if if Kaishan Budi goes out there in
Speaker 3: the preseason and puts together some great performances. I think
Speaker 3: he does have a really good shot of making it.
Speaker 2: But the borderline guys on this roster at receiver, all
Speaker 2: these guys that we've been talking about that are if
Speaker 2: he making them the roster, the ones that can display
Speaker 2: versatility and maybe do more than one thing. Those are
Speaker 2: the guys that are gonna stick with, whether it's kick
Speaker 2: return or you know whatever it may be, played the
Speaker 2: slot as opposed to the ex or they they're gonna
Speaker 2: or the z they're they're they're gonna, they're gonna want
Speaker 2: you over someone who's just single minded in his duties
Speaker 2: without a doubt. That's why a guy like Reager to
Speaker 2: me is a lock, is an absolute lock, because they'll
Speaker 2: likely you know, utilize him in returns.
Speaker 19: Yeah, agree with Raeger for sure. He was a kick return,
Speaker 19: punt returned, he was on field goal kickoff. He showed
Speaker 19: his special teams versatility and that's why he stuck around
Speaker 19: last year when a lot of people were just questioning
Speaker 19: why anyone would want to pick him up after his
Speaker 19: first few years.
Speaker 7: In the league.
Speaker 19: But return game wise, I wonder with Marcus Jones healthy,
Speaker 19: who they're going to go to for punt kick return,
Speaker 19: which is probably one of the reasons that Rager could
Speaker 19: be on that bubble, even though he showed his versatility
Speaker 19: last year.
Speaker 2: Anybody else want to tackle that? All right? So if
Speaker 2: that's Key Shambudi? How about now his name has escaped me.
Speaker 2: We were just talking about him. Juju helped me out.
Speaker 2: Do you known?
Speaker 14: No?
Speaker 2: Not Osborne Baker Baker?
Speaker 5: Uh So the one thing that kind of worries me
Speaker 5: about Javon Now, he's really really good. We saw today
Speaker 5: he was making catches, but he did drop one, and
Speaker 5: that's kind of thing with him. We've seen he likes
Speaker 5: to body catch and he kind of loses focus and
Speaker 5: when even when it's a routine catch. As a result,
Speaker 5: he had fifteen drops over four seasons in college, including
Speaker 5: a ten point three percent drop rate last season. He
Speaker 5: had six drops total last season, So could that play
Speaker 5: a factor?
Speaker 2: I think it definitely was absolutely absolutely drop.
Speaker 6: Rate last year.
Speaker 23: Yeah, Yeah, there's some improvement to do there, I will add, though,
Speaker 23: I'm pretty sure with Baker he had some big drop problems,
Speaker 23: but he definitely improved as the season went on for
Speaker 23: UCF so I think he's.
Speaker 3: Definitely somebody that could overcome some of those problems, because
Speaker 3: end of the day, I mean, Javon Baker is really
Speaker 3: something this offense could use, and that's a big time
Speaker 3: deep threat which they've been missing for years.
Speaker 19: Honestly, I think one downside I saw today is doing
Speaker 19: some homework on Alex van Peut, the new offensive coordinator.
Speaker 19: He's a very run heavy and and play action pass guy.
Speaker 19: And from everything that I've read on Javon Baker, his
Speaker 19: outside blocking, he's not interested in it. So that could
Speaker 19: play a factor into him losing some snaps because he
Speaker 19: hasn't shown his willingness to block in college. But I
Speaker 19: think he has upside as a very good deep threat
Speaker 19: later as his career goes on. It's just he needs
Speaker 19: to show a willingness to block on run plays and
Speaker 19: he needs to clean up his drops.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you guys, some what in your mind
Speaker 2: is the definition of a number one receiver. You know,
Speaker 2: we opened up today talking about you know, I don't
Speaker 2: really have a designation between one or a six, or
Speaker 2: a five or an X or a Y. You know,
Speaker 2: to me catch the damn ball. But is there should
Speaker 2: there be a definite one, and what kind of trait
Speaker 2: should a one have?
Speaker 21: See a number there's there are like clear teams with
Speaker 21: the number one. You see the Dolphins, Tyreek, Hial Vikings,
Speaker 21: justin Jefferson. But when you're in a situation like you know,
Speaker 21: the Bills, I'm not sure who there are one's gonna be.
Speaker 21: He could be Keyan Coleman, I'm not sure, but the
Speaker 21: Patriots I'm not sure either. What if Kendrick's not ready,
Speaker 21: Kendrick's not ready for number one, I'm not sure who's
Speaker 21: gonna be that No more, but add on to you.
Speaker 2: I'm not even sure he'd be the one.
Speaker 21: I who was healthy really, but even if he's, even
Speaker 21: if he's if he's not ready, just catch the ball.
Speaker 20: That's how they're going to decide.
Speaker 5: I really think the Patriots don't have like one standout
Speaker 5: wide receiver. I think we have a lot of versatility
Speaker 5: in our players, but we just don't have that one
Speaker 5: player that just stands out him on the rest. I mean,
Speaker 5: of course, Tomorrow Douglass very good on like short routes,
Speaker 5: or he's super quick so he can run the ball
Speaker 5: to But I just don't think we have that one
Speaker 5: player that stands out.
Speaker 19: There's no there's no guy that's just a dude, Like
Speaker 19: they just have that alpha mentality, Like Justin Jefferson came
Speaker 19: into the league, broke every rookie record, was talking his
Speaker 19: stuff in postgame, and there's nobody on the Patriots that
Speaker 19: can really go out and be that guy like Johan Baker.
Speaker 19: I know post draft is like I make people in
Speaker 19: wheelchair stand up, which I like. I like that kind
Speaker 19: of stuff, having confidence and like, but just his building.
Speaker 2: Should should we go get Brandon Ayuk?
Speaker 19: That would that would be a big for sure, And
Speaker 19: that's I'm of the opinion room.
Speaker 2: I'm of the opinion. Yeah, sure it'd be great. But
Speaker 2: I don't think they need to give up a one
Speaker 2: for the guy. I'm not. I'm holding on to the one.
Speaker 2: I don't care what you say, because this team is
Speaker 2: liable to have a really good draft pick again next year. Now,
Speaker 2: if the rumors and the and the reported stories are
Speaker 2: true that Patriots and Elliott Wolf offered you know, a
Speaker 2: high two h and we're gonna tell you that they
Speaker 2: pay him the twenty eight million or whatever it was
Speaker 2: that he was originally looking for, I'm like, wow, and
Speaker 2: the forty nine ers didn't take that offer.
Speaker 20: See that's the problem twenty eight million.
Speaker 2: Well, it's it's big money, but the man, the man
Speaker 2: is definitely gonna step up and be what you want
Speaker 2: him to be.
Speaker 20: Absolutely.
Speaker 3: Can I add something though, Ye? Yeah, I think that
Speaker 3: a couple of things right. I think they've definitely tried
Speaker 3: to go out and get receivers, even like a guy
Speaker 3: like Calvin Ridley, who they really they tried to pursue
Speaker 3: in free agency. They couldn't get them. They tried to
Speaker 3: get Ayuk near the draft, couldn't get them. I think
Speaker 3: at this point the Patriots like, you're looking at this year,
Speaker 3: you're probably not gonna be a contending team. This is
Speaker 3: a team that's developing, and we're young. And while getting
Speaker 3: a guy like Ayuk would help, my question is to you, guys,
Speaker 3: is it worth it right now when you're not a
Speaker 3: contending team to go out and and you know, give
Speaker 3: away draft picks that I'd rather let your young guys.
Speaker 20: I mean, I think worth is it worth the money
Speaker 20: to spend?
Speaker 19: I think they missed their window to get him because
Speaker 19: the price was at its lowest probably during the draft.
Speaker 19: But now the forty nine ers they're in camp, and
Speaker 19: he actually reported he's not holding out. So at this
Speaker 19: point the price is gonna be at its highest because
Speaker 19: the forty nine ers are trying to go and win
Speaker 19: a Super Bowl. So unless they're he's gonna hold out
Speaker 19: and not play games, why would they even look to
Speaker 19: trade him if he's willing to play in the games
Speaker 19: unless that deal is perfect. So obviously, getting a guy
Speaker 19: like Brandon Ayuk, he would come in be the clear
Speaker 19: cut number one, and you're looking at this receiver room
Speaker 19: a lot different to Mario Douglas gets to move over
Speaker 19: to the slot where he's more comfortable at five eight,
Speaker 19: Kendrick Bourne doesn't have to carry the load of being
Speaker 19: a wide receiver one, and these rookies can build confidence
Speaker 19: behind these guys when they're not facing number one corners
Speaker 19: like we could go out Week one and Jalen Pole
Speaker 19: in Cincinnati is against their number one corner. So it
Speaker 19: just opens up a lot of things. If you can
Speaker 19: get a guy like Brandon Ayuk.
Speaker 2: You just want to take a call. Yeah, Jason and Lynn, Hi, Jason,
Speaker 2: how are you hey?
Speaker 15: I'm good?
Speaker 2: Oh hey Jason? Yeah, Yeah, how's it going? What do
Speaker 2: you got?
Speaker 8: Oh?
Speaker 15: And good? Coming back from my job and Quincy nine
Speaker 15: five minutes of twelve from hearing that we don't got
Speaker 15: a number one wide receiver. But I'm thinking it's uh
Speaker 15: flop from Washington. That's I've been ryding with those guys.
Speaker 15: I'm in a little bit of disagreement with the guy.
Speaker 15: I think it's a passive. I think we're gonna have
Speaker 15: some rookie time here.
Speaker 2: I agree.
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 5: I was about to ask that question too. Do we
Speaker 5: think Jalen Polk will become the number one wide receiver
Speaker 5: for the Patriots?
Speaker 20: And I think so.
Speaker 5: And I think, like I stated earlier, Javon Baker, Jalen Polk,
Speaker 5: and Debara Douglass, I think you're there.
Speaker 6: They are the Patriots Big three.
Speaker 3: I think yeah.
Speaker 19: I mean, he has the tools to become a wide
Speaker 19: number one wide receiver, but he's got things to fix up.
Speaker 20: Obviously.
Speaker 10: He can't really fix that.
Speaker 19: He's slightly below average speed for a wide receiver. He
Speaker 19: needs to refine his route running. He's got the NFL
Speaker 19: body where he can go up and get a ball.
Speaker 19: We saw it you Washington. Whenever they wanted to go deep,
Speaker 19: it was usually him in traffic. He's that is his
Speaker 19: one elite skills. He can go up and get you
Speaker 19: a ball, which is a great skill to have as
Speaker 19: a wide receiver one. But there's just other things at
Speaker 19: his game that are just not ready yet to become
Speaker 19: a wide receiver one.
Speaker 14: Totally agree with you. That's a great way I look
Speaker 14: at it. Love that.
Speaker 15: Thanks boys, Okay, gold Path all right.
Speaker 2: Thanks Jason, appreciate you. Eight five five PATS five hundred,
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Speaker 2: Broadcaster On Twitter or X what do you guys call.
Speaker 20: It Twitter or Twitter?
Speaker 6: I still call it twitter.
Speaker 2: We'll call it twitter good because I'm not trying to
Speaker 2: be politically correct, and I hate it. It's Twitter, okay.
Speaker 2: And then on Facebook, anybody here have a Facebook page?
Speaker 2: Patrick's looking at but like god, how old are you?
Speaker 20: I cannot.
Speaker 2: It's okay, it's honest. I like that. That's just that's
Speaker 2: what old. That's old people's social media, right, old people's
Speaker 2: social media. All right? How many games does this team
Speaker 2: win this year? Ahead, take a prediction, take a shot five.
Speaker 6: Seven.
Speaker 3: I got them winning six games.
Speaker 19: I don't know what the over under is at, but
Speaker 19: I think if I was a betting man, I'd go
Speaker 19: with the under, just with all the moving pieces. If
Speaker 19: it's four and a half, I think I'd go with four.
Speaker 21: I'm pretty sure ESPN bet has that they are not
Speaker 21: favored in a single game this season.
Speaker 5: But you know, I think any Patriots fan would be
Speaker 5: happy if we could somehow make it to the wild card.
Speaker 2: That more than seven I think. I mean, the defense,
Speaker 2: you're optimistic, Okay, you.
Speaker 20: Need the Bills and the Dolphins to not win a
Speaker 20: single game.
Speaker 5: And talking to some of the players at autographs, they
Speaker 5: were seeming pretty optimistic. But like you said, I mean,
Speaker 5: it is the first day of training camp. They haven't
Speaker 5: got yelled at.
Speaker 2: Yet, haven't gotten yelled at, haven't got hit in them out?
Speaker 2: All right, guys, good job. Where do you go? All right?
Speaker 2: All right, so we're halfway through this thing. We've got
Speaker 2: two more subjects that we're going to tackle coming up.
Speaker 2: In fact, speaking of tackle, on the offensive side of
Speaker 2: the ball, these are the people that have to protect
Speaker 2: Drake may These are the people that have to hold
Speaker 2: the line and block so the receivers can catch the
Speaker 2: ball and yeah, open up holes for the running backs
Speaker 2: to get through. The hole. The offensive line is a
Speaker 2: big off season and start of the season story for
Speaker 2: the New England Patriots. Have they done enough to protect
Speaker 2: Drake may or Jacoby Brissett or anybody else that would
Speaker 2: be in there? The offensive line is the subject? Is
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Speaker 2: continue into hour two of the playbook, our July edition.
Speaker 2: We're featuring students that I have that I missed that, okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: we lost that. All right. We're featuring students that you
Speaker 2: good if you just lost all of that was my fault.
Speaker 2: Oh that was you, Okay. I was about to say
Speaker 2: all of a sudden.
Speaker 1: I got a lot of new knobs in here.
Speaker 2: John, I know, I know, but I like things went
Speaker 2: dark all of a sudden, I said, Oh, is this
Speaker 2: it end of life? Is it here already? Damn? I
Speaker 2: just turned I just had a birthday this week, you know, jeez,
Speaker 2: cut my feet up from underneath me.
Speaker 1: All right?
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Speaker 10: Miss Robin, take you out?
Speaker 2: She did? She did? You know what we did? We
Speaker 2: rented a boat and we went out uh and and
Speaker 2: basically cruised Cape cog Canal.
Speaker 4: Okay, it was that.
Speaker 2: It was awesome, great weather for it. It was awesome weather.
Speaker 2: And then of course we're out in the middle of
Speaker 2: the Cape Cock. We're actually over there by mass Maritime,
Speaker 2: you know where the Bourn Bridge is out there, and
Speaker 2: the engine conked, so I had to call boat trip
Speaker 2: La and get towed in. How do you like that?
Speaker 1: You like?
Speaker 2: Dave Portnoy, I just did the same thing, did he really?
Speaker 1: He lit a flare off in the harbor.
Speaker 6: Damn?
Speaker 2: I wish I had thought of that. I would have
Speaker 2: done the same thing. I'd have staid out on the
Speaker 2: Battle of the Vote and just launched it, you know,
Speaker 2: like I'm shooting like Roman Candles or something. Oh, I
Speaker 2: wish I had thought of that.
Speaker 9: Shoot.
Speaker 2: Now I'm gonna have to get another voat and I
Speaker 2: have to break down all over again. And you okay,
Speaker 2: I digress already. It's subject number three, hour, number two
Speaker 2: year in the playbook. We have our Dean College Sports
Speaker 2: broadcasting student is a part of our mix here this afternoon,
Speaker 2: and we are going to talk a little bit about
Speaker 2: the offensive line coming up. Eric Darcy is here. Eric,
Speaker 2: tell us where you're from and what year in school.
Speaker 7: I'm going into my junior year high school, okay, and
Speaker 7: I'm from like Oakland, New Jersey.
Speaker 6: It's very like near NYC.
Speaker 7: And I want to give a shout out to all
Speaker 7: my guys at home watching Brandon, Dan, Derek, Matt, Mike.
Speaker 7: I also want to go to give a shout out
Speaker 7: to my mom the.
Speaker 2: Entire free world. Okay, that's good, that's fine, You're allowed
Speaker 2: to do that. In addition to Eric, Noah higher I
Speaker 2: know him. Hell, what year in school? Where are you from?
Speaker 24: I'm going into my junior year and I'm from Norton, Massachusetts.
Speaker 2: Norton. Oh, so you're you're a neighbor. Yeah, you're a neighbor.
Speaker 2: Are you a Patriots fan?
Speaker 11: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, please, thank you, good lord. You can't be from Norton,
Speaker 2: Mass And not be a Patriots fan. Seriously, all right,
Speaker 2: Mark manfreda, Mark, how's it going?
Speaker 3: Good? Good you?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, we're hanging. We're just hanging. What year
Speaker 2: are you in school? And where are you from?
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna go to my freshman year of college
Speaker 3: at Dean.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, fresh meat.
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm from I'm from Milbury, Mass. So it's like
Speaker 3: twenty to fifteen minutes outside of West.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know where Berry is. Absolutely. And are you
Speaker 2: a Patriots fan?
Speaker 3: Absolutely?
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm just look, I gotta ask the question. I've
Speaker 2: had Giants fan here. I had, you know, Noel Lespina
Speaker 2: in the last segment of the program he's a Dolphins fan.
Speaker 2: Did you guys know that.
Speaker 6: About Norman what he's from?
Speaker 7: It is unacceptable to Hampshire totally. Are you from the
Speaker 7: area and not a fan of.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying right, and Ava Powell is with us.
Speaker 2: You're the You're I think you win the award for
Speaker 2: furthest distance.
Speaker 25: Oh well, Charlie's from Arizona.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's right, Charlie. Now, no, yeah, it would be
Speaker 2: Charlie probably. But you're from Virginia, right, okay, Northern Virginia. Right.
Speaker 2: What year are you in school?
Speaker 25: Going into my senior year?
Speaker 2: Senior year? Right? Okay? Is this somebody you really you
Speaker 2: think you want to do?
Speaker 25: I mean, I wanted to come here and experience it,
Speaker 25: just to see if I liked it, if I wanted
Speaker 25: to learn more about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay, good. What did you think of camp today?
Speaker 25: I think it was pretty fun. I liked watching the
Speaker 25: guys play on the field. We got to see the
Speaker 25: cheerleaders too. It's just pretty cool.
Speaker 2: You're you're in competitive cheer right, yeah, okay, so I'm
Speaker 2: sure you probably were paying attention. Actually, we have a
Speaker 2: pretty good track record of Dean College dance majors making
Speaker 2: the Patriots cheerleading school. Yeah you didn't know that, Marine,
Speaker 2: I did not know that. Listen. I'm actually I'm very
Speaker 2: proud of this. The very first male NFL cheerleader, okay,
Speaker 2: is a former student of mine. I don't even know
Speaker 2: what to say to that. I know, right, that's probably
Speaker 2: not much I did.
Speaker 6: I did not know that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the very first male in NFL history. He
Speaker 2: made the Patriots Cheerleague squad I think four years ago. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: So he's uh yeah, he's a good kid. And he
Speaker 2: actually was in my speech class and he aised it.
Speaker 2: He got an A. So he did pretty good job
Speaker 2: of communicating. So anyway, so there's a track record there,
Speaker 2: there's a good track rerd. All right, guys, the subject
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Speaker 2: Our question is how offensive is the offensive line? Of course,
Speaker 2: you understand the context offensive being stinky, you know, and
Speaker 2: I'm not talking about the size of the guys or
Speaker 2: anything in the trenches. But let's face it, they struggled.
Speaker 2: They struggled last year. It was a horrific year for
Speaker 2: the offensive line. A year ago. I am in the
Speaker 2: camp of if there were better guys in front of him,
Speaker 2: Mac Jones might still be here.
Speaker 6: Absolutely, yeah, I can agree on that.
Speaker 2: Okay, So how offensive his this offensive line? Is there
Speaker 2: hope for you know, Jacoby? Is their hope for Drake?
Speaker 2: And how will the play of the offensive line affect
Speaker 2: that competition? What are your thoughts? Who wants to start?
Speaker 3: I'll go first, Okay, go on Ava. What are the
Speaker 3: stats for last years for the offensive line? It was
Speaker 3: I know, I know they were bottom of the league
Speaker 3: for for something.
Speaker 25: Yeah they are.
Speaker 6: I think they were ranked last when what and what?
Speaker 25: The Patriots offensive line ranked dead last? Second with the
Speaker 25: past blocking win rate.
Speaker 2: Not blocking win rate was dead last.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's not that's not good. That's not mean. I mean,
Speaker 3: how are you supposed to win games when you're when
Speaker 3: you're O line came in to block for you, understood?
Speaker 3: I think I think there's definitely mean. Definitely from today,
Speaker 3: watching today, it was definitely like the line looks solid.
Speaker 3: There were plenty of runs rushed for ten plus yards,
Speaker 3: Jacoby and Drake May had plenty of time in the
Speaker 3: pocket when they passed, making some great passes as well.
Speaker 3: I think I think there's definitely hope. I know that
Speaker 3: cole Cole Strange is out with a torn pectuliar tendon. Uh,
Speaker 3: and we have to we have to find someone to
Speaker 3: fill that role, which I think I think it could
Speaker 3: be either Nick Lavert, Michael Jordan, or Leyden Robinson as well.
Speaker 3: Robinson made thirty three career starts at Texas A and
Speaker 3: M's right guard. Scouts believe he was close to being
Speaker 3: pro ready as well. During the draft, Michael Jor was undrafted,
Speaker 3: made twenty twenty six starts in the SEC. Scouts say
Speaker 3: he was a draftable talent a center, and then Nick
Speaker 3: LeVert I hope him saying that, right, I saw plenty
Speaker 3: of opportunities in spring his right guard sometimes top of
Speaker 3: the offensive line. Ten career starts in three seasons with Tampa,
Speaker 3: so it's not it's not a lot. So I mean,
Speaker 3: if we can get, you know, more reps for them
Speaker 3: so you can fill in for cold strange, I think,
Speaker 3: you know, I think we have hope.
Speaker 2: Oh okay Leverett, Yes, Sorrycuvert, Yeah, okay, I was thinking,
Speaker 2: do we have a new night it's pre season? What
Speaker 2: do I know?
Speaker 7: Right?
Speaker 2: Okay, that's okay, that's fine, all right. What do you
Speaker 2: think Eric?
Speaker 24: Uh?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I really think that last.
Speaker 7: Year the one of the main reasons with the offensive
Speaker 7: line struggle was injuries and health issues. I know that
Speaker 7: Cole Strange was out a lot during this was his
Speaker 7: sophomore season. I know Trent Brown was out a lot,
Speaker 7: and we had other guys having to fill in, like City,
Speaker 7: So when I believe he was a rookie, he had
Speaker 7: to fill in. I know Jake Andrews was in for
Speaker 7: the last two or so games. But I feel like
Speaker 7: now that we we have we extended on on. It
Speaker 7: was like four years, seventy one dollars we got, we
Speaker 7: got more help with a core four.
Speaker 17: YEP.
Speaker 7: I'm not exactly completely set on him. I'm not really
Speaker 7: bought on the idea because mainly he hasn't played left tackle.
Speaker 3: Or aren't they trying to switch him to the left
Speaker 3: tack right, they.
Speaker 7: Were trying to switch him to the left tackle, and
Speaker 7: he hasn't played left tackle since college, so that could
Speaker 7: be a bit.
Speaker 1: I have.
Speaker 6: I have no idea. I have no idea what what years?
Speaker 7: And I know he's been playing for a decent amount
Speaker 7: he's been He's been ok with the he we signed
Speaker 7: him from the Steelers, and I mean we still have
Speaker 7: we have David Andrews coming back, which is gonna help.
Speaker 6: Like I said on WHENU.
Speaker 7: My main concern would be with Cole Strange, as he's
Speaker 7: not going to be able.
Speaker 6: The report says that.
Speaker 7: He will be out at least for the first four
Speaker 7: games of the season, which is where I think that
Speaker 7: Loverett can come in since he was he was holding
Speaker 7: down his position well at Tampa and he only allowed
Speaker 7: just four quarterback hits and no sacks against Brady when
Speaker 7: he played there in twenty twenty two. It was around
Speaker 7: like it was four. He took like four eighty two snaps.
Speaker 7: Zero sacks is four four hits allowed. And I feel
Speaker 7: like since col Strange may probably will be out, I
Speaker 7: think that Loverett can fill that spot nicely as well.
Speaker 7: As we also have Caden Wallace that we drafted out
Speaker 7: of Penn State, the four star prospect. I think he
Speaker 7: will definitely add some He will definitely add some depth
Speaker 7: and help to the line. But my other than the
Speaker 7: concerns on Strange's health and a CORPS four definitely City
Speaker 7: Sow I have a main concern on well also.
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, health is a huge reason why
Speaker 3: the line wasn't that good. Yeah, sure, I mean a
Speaker 3: lot of people were injured, you know, we didn't have
Speaker 3: a lot I mean, I would say we wouldn't have.
Speaker 3: We didn't have a lot of depth.
Speaker 6: Half the team was like in the Hostege exactly.
Speaker 3: So I mean for free to say, you know, it's
Speaker 3: it's all to health, I mean it really is. I
Speaker 3: mean that's that's important.
Speaker 2: Who's the left tackle on this team right now?
Speaker 7: It's it's going to be a core for But like
Speaker 7: I said, he hasn't he usually a right tackle, and
Speaker 7: he hasn't played left tackle since college, which could be
Speaker 7: very concerning. But I feel like with the Patriots with
Speaker 7: they also have on Whenu at right tackle, who as
Speaker 7: we know, has played both before. He has positioned versatility,
Speaker 7: and if a core for starts to struggle at left tackle,
Speaker 7: I feel like the Patriots could move him back to
Speaker 7: where he was originally playing it right and try on
Speaker 7: when Who at left because I remember they did that
Speaker 7: at some point last season and it worked out decently well.
Speaker 2: Okay, any other thoughts on that, guys?
Speaker 24: Noah, I mean, I think you covered most of the
Speaker 24: main concerns health, but I'm not I'm not too concerned
Speaker 24: about a core for moving to a left tackle.
Speaker 3: I mean, well, I mean so I looked it up.
Speaker 3: It's just so the season. Yeah, I mean he hasn't played.
Speaker 3: He hasn't played since college, so I mean that's a
Speaker 3: long time. He can be rusty, sure.
Speaker 7: But and like the the gap between like if you
Speaker 7: if you're a right tackle switching into a left tackle,
Speaker 7: it's just like a huge significant change.
Speaker 24: Yeah, I don't know, it'd be interesting to see how
Speaker 24: it goes.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, to me, I think they're gonna end up having
Speaker 2: to plug and play quite a bit. Absolutely, Yeah, guys
Speaker 2: around it's the expansive experimenting. Uh, there may even be
Speaker 2: some matchup lineup changes depending upon who's lining up on
Speaker 2: the other team and whether or not you know, one
Speaker 2: of the defenders you know, plays to a particular weakness
Speaker 2: of you know, one of the Patriots players and the
Speaker 2: offensive line. I think it's gonna have to mix a
Speaker 2: match We'd love to find a core five that would
Speaker 2: be there from day one and stay hopefully as healthy
Speaker 2: as they possibly can throughout. That ain't gonna happen, Okay,
Speaker 2: we all understand that, especially over the stretch of a
Speaker 2: seventeen week regular season soon to be eighteen. I don't know,
Speaker 2: did you guys see that story? Already in big negotiations
Speaker 2: to add the eighteenth game to the regular season. And
Speaker 2: I've said that from for a long time to come,
Speaker 2: since we moved to seventeen on this program and other
Speaker 2: venues and other places, that the eighteenth game was going
Speaker 2: to happen. It is going to happen, whether anybody wants
Speaker 2: it or not. It's just an inevitability because we need
Speaker 2: more meaningful football. We don't need more non meaningful football,
Speaker 2: which means exhibition play. So they'll end up, you know,
Speaker 2: still doing a couple of preseason games. You might get
Speaker 2: a controlled scrimmage or you know, joint practices like the
Speaker 2: Patriot's going to do with the Eagles in a couple
Speaker 2: of weeks. But eighteen games is going to be here,
Speaker 2: which means likely there'll be a couple of buys an
Speaker 2: extra buy moved in it also, I know, and I
Speaker 2: know that changed the subjecting for a moment, but I
Speaker 2: brought it up just because it's top of mind. I
Speaker 2: think we'll finally the way that the calendar plays out,
Speaker 2: I think we're finally going to get that day after
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl holiday because it's going to push the
Speaker 2: super Bowl back, I think to President's Day weekend, think
Speaker 2: in February, which means everybody's gonna have the day off
Speaker 2: from good work and you guys school, you know hopefully right, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah right.
Speaker 3: I mean I mean I'm staying up late for the
Speaker 3: Super Bowl.
Speaker 6: I mean who doesn't. Who doesn't somebody who has.
Speaker 2: To get up at three am for morning drive radio
Speaker 2: like I used to have to that. That just stunk.
Speaker 2: That was awye.
Speaker 3: I do know the Pats have Scott Scott Peters the
Speaker 3: new coach. I mean that's big. I mean, you know
Speaker 3: Drawd Mayo now and then he reh I mean he
Speaker 3: hired Scott Peters, who then Van Pelt hired Peters, I believe. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: that's big. It's all new systems now and for people
Speaker 3: that were for alignment that we're in the Belichick era,
Speaker 3: it's I feel like I think it's gonna be a
Speaker 3: really big switch.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 7: I also just realized that I just saw that Kate
Speaker 7: Wallace is also He also plays left tackle. So if
Speaker 7: the Pats don't decide to move on when to left,
Speaker 7: then then Kate Wallace the rookie who I mean, I
Speaker 7: don't really know if he should jump in considering he
Speaker 7: is a rookie and I feel like he may need
Speaker 7: time to develop. If a core four really does start
Speaker 7: to struggle, then I then, honestly, I feel like that
Speaker 7: the Pats could try Kana Wallace because his draft report
Speaker 7: was really good.
Speaker 6: He had a lot of positives.
Speaker 7: Plays long and can keep defenders at his fingertips, loose balance,
Speaker 7: moving with good lank and big hands. It just continues
Speaker 7: on in the amount of positives that this guy has.
Speaker 2: Where does Calvin Anderson fit into this, Because here's a
Speaker 2: guy that you know, came in, we thought he had
Speaker 2: had some versatility. He obviously had the illness issue a
Speaker 2: year ago. Uh and and so now he's trying to
Speaker 2: play his way back into the mix. He can also
Speaker 2: play tackle, and I think that's his preferred position. Is
Speaker 2: this a guy that's going to get a look?
Speaker 3: I think so?
Speaker 14: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean I don't see why he wouldn't. I mean,
Speaker 3: just like you said, I mean he has he has,
Speaker 3: he has all the I mean he sixth season. I
Speaker 3: mean he's he's ah, not veteran, but he knows he
Speaker 3: knows how to play the position. Yeah, I mean six ' five,
Speaker 3: three h five, he's he's got any and you know,
Speaker 3: we saw we saw him today. He he he did
Speaker 3: really well during during practice, I mean I I, yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't see I don't see why it would be
Speaker 3: an issue.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And speaking of that, so who stood out to
Speaker 2: you a practice today in terms of some of these
Speaker 2: big guys out there, and was there a lot of
Speaker 2: mixing and matching. What did you notice about rotations or
Speaker 2: anything about the the guys when they were in their
Speaker 2: eleven and elevens and seven and well especially eleven and elevens.
Speaker 7: Mainly, Like, I don't really know if like anyone specifically
Speaker 7: stood out to me, but I know that during like
Speaker 7: some of their like seven on seven eleven eleven chills,
Speaker 7: they were able to like create some of the gaps
Speaker 7: in the holes for yes Madre or Kevin Harris to
Speaker 7: run through that actually got them very far down the field.
Speaker 7: I know they weren't playing tackle because it's first day
Speaker 7: of training camp, but they were able to find new
Speaker 7: able to create some really good holes for the running backs,
Speaker 7: which now that Van Pelt is here, he's a very
Speaker 7: like run heavy guy, run heavy, play action guy. So
Speaker 7: I feel like now that now that that's now that
Speaker 7: that's happening, they're gonna start favoring, They're gonna start giving
Speaker 7: Madre Harris, all those guys a lot more touches and
Speaker 7: I feel like they've had in the past, which if
Speaker 7: the O line can create those gaps and that's going
Speaker 7: to create for some big plays in the upcoming season.
Speaker 2: Okay, ay, but did you what did you see out
Speaker 2: there practice today that maybe you didn't know where you
Speaker 2: didn't expect by some of these guys, Because when you
Speaker 2: knew that, you're going to talk about the offensive lineman,
Speaker 2: I'm sure it's probably not a position you're terribly familiar
Speaker 2: with overall. But what what did they teach you? What?
Speaker 2: What did they what did they what did they introduce
Speaker 2: you to in that regard?
Speaker 25: I mean, they're all really tall, and I don't know
Speaker 25: they're they're fast. I mean, from what I saw it
Speaker 25: looked pretty solid.
Speaker 2: There seemed to be at least from what I saw
Speaker 2: out there, there seemed to be uh, some switching of
Speaker 2: positions going on at least a little bit. I think
Speaker 2: they were trying. They were kind of plugging and playing.
Speaker 2: Does that versatility help or hurt at this developmental stage?
Speaker 2: Want to tackle that one.
Speaker 3: I think it can be both. I think it hurt
Speaker 3: and hurt and help. I mean it can definitely hurt
Speaker 3: because some players aren't familiar, they're not accustomed to it.
Speaker 3: They they might not they might not necessarily know what
Speaker 3: to do in certain situations. But I think it can
Speaker 3: also help with versatility. I mean, they once they figure
Speaker 3: out how to play the position, they can play both.
Speaker 3: You know, let's just say it's a tackle they can
Speaker 3: do right and left.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it comes different. I completely agree with you.
Speaker 7: Like, like I said earlier, uh, like last season they
Speaker 7: swapped on why do I believe over the left tackle
Speaker 7: for a few games and that ended up going really well.
Speaker 7: So I think that it can help them with with
Speaker 7: if like some players discover that they have that they
Speaker 7: are versatile at position switching. But if they're not, then
Speaker 7: it's gonna end up costing the team.
Speaker 2: Costing the team what it wins, losses talent.
Speaker 7: What wins, what would cost he could be could be
Speaker 7: costing them, like pressure on the QB sacks could be
Speaker 7: costing them.
Speaker 2: We do have to keep you know, a guy named
Speaker 2: Drake may healthy at.
Speaker 6: All kinds exactly.
Speaker 7: I don't I don't want another mac Jones situation where
Speaker 7: we draft this highly talented quarterback and early in the
Speaker 7: first round and it just all goes to waste and
Speaker 7: we trade them away a few seasons later.
Speaker 2: Got you all, right, let's let's you know, I mean, look,
Speaker 2: I think we all realize that this position is going
Speaker 2: to be a WIP, a work in progress all season long. Right,
Speaker 2: you have to hope that you can stay relatively healthy.
Speaker 2: One of the keys to healthiness is versatility. Because one
Speaker 2: of the things that the Patriots have done under the
Speaker 2: previous regime, and I think seems to be really the
Speaker 2: way to roll it in most NFL camps in teams
Speaker 2: is through versatility because you create depth when guys can
Speaker 2: play multiple positions. So you're looking for players in the
Speaker 2: offensive line that can play multiple positions. You know, you've
Speaker 2: got David Andrews, Jake Andrews potentially to back him up
Speaker 2: at center. Jake Andrews can also I think, slide over
Speaker 2: to guard. So that helps you in terms of your
Speaker 2: versatility where that's concerned. The tackle obviously is the key
Speaker 2: issue to me, because you're you're protecting on the left side,
Speaker 2: the blind side of the quarterback. If you need the
Speaker 2: athleticism for the quarterback, then that's probably when he needs
Speaker 2: to recognize, you know, he needs to have a feel
Speaker 2: for that pocket a little bit, so we know when
Speaker 2: to step up and move around and avoid, you know,
Speaker 2: getting slammed. That's the biggest issue I personally believe. My
Speaker 2: thought is is that until they are able to develop
Speaker 2: some continuity, that you're going to see the Patriots not
Speaker 2: dink and dunk, but probably emphasize a shorter passing game
Speaker 2: and run a game. You know, I don't think we're
Speaker 2: going to see a whole lot of what everybody really
Speaker 2: wants to see. Hey, Jalen go long, I don't think
Speaker 2: that's gonna happen.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean we also didn't see that during during
Speaker 3: Jain camp today. I mean there were all short passes
Speaker 3: or at least midfield passes, curl.
Speaker 7: And out routes, and so I want to kind of
Speaker 7: go on a bit of the obsession about this, but
Speaker 7: one of the one of my main concerns, like I
Speaker 7: said earlier, was City Sou who was thrown into the
Speaker 7: starting lineup as a rookie due to injuries to other
Speaker 7: O linemen.
Speaker 3: Mm hm.
Speaker 7: And I mean his performance was like I mean, in
Speaker 7: my opinion, exceptional, like average is. He got he got
Speaker 7: what needed to be done, but he wasn't like he
Speaker 7: didn't wow me or catch my attention or I feel
Speaker 7: like that.
Speaker 3: Wasn't that all you need? Though it's just an average.
Speaker 3: I mean, you don't need someone to absolutely over the
Speaker 3: top impress you, like just give you a but I
Speaker 3: feel like I feels for impressions, but like someone that
Speaker 3: can fill in.
Speaker 7: I feel like with the Patriots with their the situation,
Speaker 7: their on line is they're gonna need like guys who
Speaker 7: sort of kind of veteran guys who I feel like
Speaker 7: who can play at that right guard position, can who
Speaker 7: citysau can develop and learn under for the future. Mainly
Speaker 7: guys who have played under the Earhard Perkins system, which
Speaker 7: is the system that the Patriots use on offense. HM
Speaker 7: kind of guys like they're both signed now, but guys
Speaker 7: like Kevin Dotson and Kevin Zeitler who they've played for
Speaker 7: the Steelers and Giants who have also used those type
Speaker 7: of systems that like the system is like a smash
Speaker 7: mouth offense that maximizes a team's possession and doesn't usually
Speaker 7: call on running backs as like receivers, so it's more
Speaker 7: of a throw to score, run to win type of
Speaker 7: offense and like type of scheme and I feel like
Speaker 7: if we can get sort of a guy who's familiar
Speaker 7: with that system and can play good at right guard,
Speaker 7: sort of a veteran off the free agent market, I
Speaker 7: feel like he can City South can develop under him
Speaker 7: so that when the time comes, since he's very he's
Speaker 7: still he's going into a sophomore season, when the time comes,
Speaker 7: he can set up to that role and excel at it.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think I think he could. I think
Speaker 3: games stay right where he is personally, I mean I think, hey,
Speaker 3: I mean he's a new coach. I mean again, he
Speaker 3: was coached by Belichick last year. New coach, new system.
Speaker 3: Give it a shot. I mean, toss him in there.
Speaker 3: I mean he can get experience with playing time. I mean,
Speaker 3: he had thirteen starts as a rookie Eastern Michigan. He
Speaker 3: had thirty one career starts. I mean, I don't.
Speaker 2: See experienced there of the position.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. And I don't see what he can't. I
Speaker 3: don't see why he can't get experience as a sophomore
Speaker 3: in the NFL, just by just Osmosis.
Speaker 2: Okay, So what we need is we have to hope
Speaker 2: for health, relative health, and perhaps extra versatility on the
Speaker 2: line and depth.
Speaker 7: Yeah, definitely depth, definitely death, Definitely depth. And I think
Speaker 7: that someone like I mentioned before, Cayenen Wallace, helps with
Speaker 7: that that we just drafted him. We drafted him and
Speaker 7: the other O line. I'm blanking on his name, but
Speaker 7: we There's definitely those two young yeah, Robinson, Yeah, Robinson,
Speaker 7: Leaden Layden Robinson, Yeah, definitely those two. How did they
Speaker 7: had a lot of positives in their draft report coming
Speaker 7: out of it, and I feel like that those two
Speaker 7: that it can be like the start to getting more
Speaker 7: depth on our O line, which is definitely like something
Speaker 7: that the Patriots really needed.
Speaker 3: I have a question actually, so I'm wondering how big
Speaker 3: is this season for Scott Peters. I mean, is it
Speaker 3: how important is it?
Speaker 2: I think anybody that's going to be in their first
Speaker 2: year is going to be given the benefit of the doubt.
Speaker 2: That's my thought. Now, after year two, if there isn't
Speaker 2: significant forward progress being made, then you can start thinking about,
Speaker 2: you know, shuffling the card deck, so to speak. But
Speaker 2: I think you know, there's there's got to be a
Speaker 2: minimum a full season and then you have to take
Speaker 2: a into consideration. What happened during the year was the
Speaker 2: offensive line decimated by injury? Or was their growth? Was
Speaker 2: their improvement? Uh? You know, how did the draft picks? Look?
Speaker 2: You know who got coached up? Who didn't get coached
Speaker 2: at all? You know is uh, you know, Cole, thank
Speaker 2: you strange. I keep wanting to call him something else
Speaker 2: cold strange. Does he does he work his way back
Speaker 2: into the lineup? Yeah?
Speaker 3: You know, I saw it. I saw somewhere that he's
Speaker 3: not guaranteed a spot back on the team once he's
Speaker 3: fully healed, right, And I think, I think, Oh, I mean,
Speaker 3: you know, in the NFL, your job's not guarantee to me.
Speaker 3: If someone's going to get.
Speaker 2: Back, you gotta you gotta figure out a way to
Speaker 2: get healthy. You can't play if you're hurt. You gotta
Speaker 2: get healthy.
Speaker 15: All right.
Speaker 2: Before we wrap up this portion of the program, how
Speaker 2: many wins this year?
Speaker 3: I think, I honestly think more than five. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know what coach.
Speaker 2: You're gonna say five?
Speaker 3: I say over five.
Speaker 14: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know coach. I think coach over here said
Speaker 3: some about six earlier before, and I don't know what
Speaker 3: he's talking about. I'll be honest, I think we're gonna
Speaker 3: get over five. I mean, new system, new knew everything.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm talking, I'm talking about Nick coach coach, Yeah, alright,
Speaker 3: if you know.
Speaker 2: You know, all right, I'm just wondering, all right, what
Speaker 2: do you think?
Speaker 7: I think that definitely with the new like the new
Speaker 7: revamped offense, you have the full defense coming back, Gonzalez
Speaker 7: coming back of injury, Jude on many others. I feel
Speaker 7: like we're gonna be in that this could be a
Speaker 7: bit of a stretch. I feel like we're being that
Speaker 7: eight to ten win range. Really yeah, I'm very I'm
Speaker 7: very confident, extraordinarily optimistic. I'm very optimistic.
Speaker 2: If you know, his nose is cold. Okay, good, all right,
Speaker 2: very good. What do you think wins losses? What do
Speaker 2: you think?
Speaker 25: From what I was told, the defensive line is still
Speaker 25: coming back, all of them and the same from us,
Speaker 25: so they should be strong and the chemistry should be
Speaker 25: good between all of them. With the new offensive line,
Speaker 25: I don't know. I mean, I'm probably gonna guess in
Speaker 25: the middle around neutral.
Speaker 3: So like so like eight, maybe maybe.
Speaker 25: Maybe eight something like that.
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people would settle for seven
Speaker 2: or eight.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, especially last season too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean eight to nine is going to actually
Speaker 2: have If you won eight games, you would be in
Speaker 2: the playoff. Mixed through December.
Speaker 3: Actually, I saw, uh there was like an NFL report
Speaker 3: or something and they projected the Patriots win three games
Speaker 3: this whole season.
Speaker 6: Yeah, the Patriots.
Speaker 2: Where the Patriots were the the odds on favor for
Speaker 2: the number.
Speaker 6: One the Patriots.
Speaker 7: I saw where they are the underdogs in every single
Speaker 7: game this season, no matter the team. They were not
Speaker 7: favored to win a single game, correct, which I think
Speaker 7: is a bit outrageous in my opinion.
Speaker 2: No, what do you think wins losses? What do you think?
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 24: You're keeping the defense, which will help a lot with
Speaker 24: Lake chemistry, like Davias said, So, I mean it really
Speaker 24: comes down to the offense, you know, the whole new
Speaker 24: quarterback situation, which I think will go way better than
Speaker 24: last year, the on line, how they start the season
Speaker 24: without cold strange. I'm thinking a solid nine to eight record.
Speaker 2: Really well, nine and eight, there'd be a lot of
Speaker 2: people that will be, you know, you know, praising you, fellow.
Speaker 2: So I'm not sure I can go that route, but
Speaker 2: I think that would be an interesting season, and nine
Speaker 2: and eight would certainly. In my honest opinion, I think
Speaker 2: it's a success if you do better than you did
Speaker 2: last year. So you know, this team managed four wins
Speaker 2: a year ago.
Speaker 15: I just.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say six. And I haven't really even I
Speaker 2: haven't really taken a good hard look at the schedule yet.
Speaker 2: I know it's gonna be extraordinarily difficult. You know, it's
Speaker 2: strange when you have, you know, one of the worst
Speaker 2: records in the league to come back the next year
Speaker 2: with the second or third toughest schedule in the league.
Speaker 2: But the problem is is that you don't You're not
Speaker 2: able to kind of patch your schedule full of Patsy's
Speaker 2: because you have a divisional rotation in terms of the
Speaker 2: schedule that the NFL predetermines. I've asked people to ask me,
Speaker 2: how come the Patriots, you know, we're terrible last year,
Speaker 2: they're gonna play your tough schedule again because that's out
Speaker 2: of their control. That's set by Park Avenue in New York.
Speaker 2: So it's unfortunate, but that's the way that it kind
Speaker 2: of fell out because of the rotation.
Speaker 3: So we're also in a really tough division as well.
Speaker 2: Well. This is I think all three of the teams
Speaker 2: in the division. I think Buffalo probably drops back to
Speaker 2: the pack a little bit. I think Miami right now,
Speaker 2: to me, I think that the Dolphins are the favorites
Speaker 2: in the AFC East. Now I don't like the Jets.
Speaker 2: And the reason that I don't like the Jets is,
Speaker 2: you know, Aaron Rodgers is going to show me he
Speaker 2: can stay healthy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, especially with playing force naps last year.
Speaker 2: It's what I mean. You know, when I see it,
Speaker 2: I may believe it. I just don't know if that's
Speaker 2: even gonna be possible. So right now, I've got Miami, Buffalo, Jets,
Speaker 2: Patriots in the APES East. But I think the Patriots
Speaker 2: can win two or three games. Yeah, I was within
Speaker 2: the division.
Speaker 7: I also want to mention, like one quick thing before
Speaker 7: we have to head out. It was it was a
Speaker 7: stat last year that the Patriots held more teams to
Speaker 7: under ten points than any other team in the league.
Speaker 6: Correct on defense.
Speaker 7: Correct, And the reason they had like such that bad
Speaker 7: of a record is mainly the offense with the horrible
Speaker 7: O line.
Speaker 3: Or where we last in the league for points per game?
Speaker 7: Yeah, that was that was for the That was for
Speaker 7: the offense, but the defense was first in the league
Speaker 7: for like allowing under tenth like keeping teams under ten points. Yes,
Speaker 7: I feel like now with their revamped offense is why
Speaker 7: I said like that eight to ten win range.
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Speaker 1: This is Patriots Playbook, the Legend.
Speaker 2: Welcome back inside the Playbook. We're rounding third heading for
Speaker 2: home here. We've got four major subjects that we've been
Speaker 2: talking about here on day one of Patriots training camp
Speaker 2: here at Jillette Stadium in Foxboro, and these seem to
Speaker 2: be the overwhelming areas of concern for this team as
Speaker 2: we head into the twenty four to twenty five season.
Speaker 2: We've talked about the quarterback battle, We've talked wide receiver.
Speaker 2: We've gone into the nuances of the offensive line and
Speaker 2: whether or not there's enough talent really and versatility perhaps
Speaker 2: to be able to protect guys like Jacoby Brissett and
Speaker 2: Drake May. But now we're going to flip it to
Speaker 2: the other side of the ball for the final question
Speaker 2: of the day, because let's face it, the strong point
Speaker 2: for the New England Patriots for this season has to
Speaker 2: be on the defensive side of the ball. You're talking
Speaker 2: about an overall top five to top ten ranked defense. Even
Speaker 2: a year ago when the team struggled to four wins
Speaker 2: out on the field, So if this team is to
Speaker 2: sort of feign competitiveness at the start of this season,
Speaker 2: the defense is clearly going to have to carry them.
Speaker 2: And I say that because I know these guys are
Speaker 2: gonna try to back that up or perhaps even dispute that.
Speaker 2: So as we wrap up with our Dean College sports
Speaker 2: broadcasting students today, Ben Gilman, is are you a senior? Ben?
Speaker 3: I am.
Speaker 26: I'm gonna be a senior next year at need Him
Speaker 26: High School.
Speaker 2: Need them all right, So we've we got a local
Speaker 2: here Patriots fan? Yes, okay, I kind of thought so,
Speaker 2: Charlie Hazen. Yes, Charlie, Charlie. But Charlie, you'rean out of
Speaker 2: town or aren't you?
Speaker 10: Yes, I'm from Tucson, Arizona.
Speaker 2: That's what I thought. So you won the award for
Speaker 2: the longest distance coming in New England.
Speaker 10: I definitely did.
Speaker 2: Yeah. What's your overall impression? Is this your first time
Speaker 2: in New England?
Speaker 7: Uh?
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, it actually is my first time here.
Speaker 2: What do you think you haven't seen much?
Speaker 10: Though not much, but it's interesting.
Speaker 2: Do you even know what an ocean looks like?
Speaker 10: I did go to the ocean on Saturday?
Speaker 1: You did here? Yes?
Speaker 2: Good for you.
Speaker 10: What'd you think it was? There was no waves?
Speaker 2: No waves? Really? Why do I have to pay for beaches?
Speaker 20: Exactly?
Speaker 1: Wow?
Speaker 2: Big? Okay, great Charlie. We're glad to have you, buddy.
Speaker 2: All right, Chris Rosner, should I say Chris or Christopher? Christopher?
Speaker 2: You prefer the longer version. It's fine the show. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: all right, Christopher Christopher? Where are? Where is your hometown?
Speaker 2: Of what you are you?
Speaker 27: I'm going to my senior year. I attend the Western
Speaker 27: High School, and I'm sadly not a Patriots fan, So
Speaker 27: I am a New York Giants fan.
Speaker 20: Big blue.
Speaker 2: That's two right now, there's two Giants fans. Okay, so
Speaker 2: I have to make a note. I got one two
Speaker 2: guys that get f's this week. Okay, I'm all set.
Speaker 2: And uh Connor vital Connor's wearing the West Virginia swag,
Speaker 2: so yeah, all right, I appreciate that, though, uh and
Speaker 2: uh Connor, you are from where and what year?
Speaker 13: I'm from Dartmouth, Mass. And I'm a senior at Bishop's
Speaker 13: Staying High School. Got Spartans?
Speaker 2: Okay, there you go. And you're from Dartmouth, yep, and
Speaker 2: you're a Patriots.
Speaker 13: Fan nope, I'm a Buffalo Bills fan.
Speaker 2: Baby, Oh my god, holy cow. Yeah, wow, say you no,
Speaker 2: Matt's he's agreeing with you. What are you a Buffalo?
Speaker 1: Just move move that micro around?
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, right, yeah, I get the micro un
Speaker 2: to your face and we're gonna have to look at it. Okay, good,
Speaker 2: Why Buffalo? How did you become a Buffalo fan? Living
Speaker 2: in here? Living around here?
Speaker 13: I have the same birthday as Josh Allen, and I
Speaker 13: like how the fans are crazy.
Speaker 2: Okay, so you're you're sort of a super member of
Speaker 2: the Bill's mafia.
Speaker 13: Yeah, and a little bit of a bandwagon.
Speaker 2: But okay, well that's all right, that's okay. That's how people,
Speaker 2: you know, Patriots fans got into the Patriot you know,
Speaker 2: you know, uh fandom because of the bandwagon, because of
Speaker 2: the success over the number of years. So I understand
Speaker 2: how that works. Guys. We're gonna start it though, talking
Speaker 2: about some defense to begin with, because I can we
Speaker 2: agree that this is the strong suit for this edition
Speaker 2: of the Patriot football team. That defense is really what
Speaker 2: they have to kind of hang their head on. Absolutely. Yeah,
Speaker 2: all right, tell me though, what stands out about this
Speaker 2: team defensively, and what did you see from the defenders
Speaker 2: in really a kind of loosely based practice today as
Speaker 2: we open up training camp, what did you see?
Speaker 13: They have some young pass rushers that just like to
Speaker 13: get get it done. And I feel like Matt Judon
Speaker 13: being older, he definitely like provides good leadership to the
Speaker 13: younger guys. They're gonna run this league in the next
Speaker 13: like five ten years.
Speaker 2: Okay, what else you know?
Speaker 22: To kind of switch the point here, I feel like
Speaker 22: they shouldn't sign him just for the reason is he's
Speaker 22: getting old and he I feel like he can easily
Speaker 22: hurt the team with that new contract that it's using
Speaker 22: cap space on a player that's going to be thirty two,
Speaker 22: thirty three, thirty four, so on, and the Patriots can
Speaker 22: use that money on a different player that is younger
Speaker 22: and would be with the Patriots longer. And I just
Speaker 22: think he even he is a good leader and everything
Speaker 22: for the team, but being thirty two, I feel like
Speaker 22: would be a terrible investment since he can easily get
Speaker 22: hurt again since he's so old.
Speaker 2: We should update everybody because one of the things that
Speaker 2: we wanted to talk about today is, you know, do
Speaker 2: the Patriots need and does the defense and particular need
Speaker 2: Matt Judah not be only because a lot of people
Speaker 2: feel like he's the best athlete on that side of
Speaker 2: the ball, but because he's a veteran leader. You know,
Speaker 2: he does have one year left on his current contract,
Speaker 2: but it's for little money because he got paid more
Speaker 2: last year, and of course last year he spent the
Speaker 2: you know, majority of the year on the sideline because
Speaker 2: he was injured. He did tell the media before the
Speaker 2: session before practice started today that he's willing to play
Speaker 2: for what he's got this year, although he feels he's
Speaker 2: worth more. That tells me just from listening and between
Speaker 2: between the lines here. That tells me that negotiations for
Speaker 2: an augmented deal are taking place. And so I think
Speaker 2: he feels like as long as progress is being made
Speaker 2: toward him getting closer to what he feels he's worth,
Speaker 2: he's going to play ball. And I think that's a
Speaker 2: positive for this new England team. Now, Charlie, I have
Speaker 2: to admit I'm not in total disagreement with your thought
Speaker 2: process because of the age and the youth and everything
Speaker 2: they're doing here, but because the Patriots new regime, the
Speaker 2: new staff you know, Elliott Wolf, you know Coach Mayo,
Speaker 2: everybody in this side of the ball right because of
Speaker 2: what they've done with some of the veterans left over
Speaker 2: from the Beligick regime and resigning them to create a base.
Speaker 2: I think that you know, bringing Judaon back is imperative
Speaker 2: because he's looked up to in that locker room by
Speaker 2: so many players. And so if you're resigning some and
Speaker 2: you're not resenting Jude On when he has that one
Speaker 2: year left on his deal, then what kind of a signal?
Speaker 2: What kind of a message are you sending to some
Speaker 2: of those other guys. To me, it makes it almost
Speaker 2: an eggshell type of situation. You want guys playing free
Speaker 2: and easy and not having to worry about the other stuff.
Speaker 2: You want them going down there doing what they do
Speaker 2: now age wise. I cannot I couldn't agree more. I
Speaker 2: think you're spot on on that. I think it's time
Speaker 2: you get to be thirty two. You don't need to
Speaker 2: be paying somebody, you know, eighty jillion dollars or whatever
Speaker 2: they're gonna pay the guy. I think you have to
Speaker 2: make sure that you're investing in the younger players that
Speaker 2: can play the position. Go side to side, whatever it
Speaker 2: may be, cover ground because we know, on the defensive
Speaker 2: side of the ball in this day and age, you'd
Speaker 2: better have some speed, you'd better have some fluidity, and
Speaker 2: your linebackers in particular, had better know how to cover
Speaker 2: backs coming out of the backfield because if you don't,
Speaker 2: you're gonna get beat on wheel roots left and right
Speaker 2: and you're gonna be just grasping it straw. So you
Speaker 2: got to have speed, you gotta have versatility. I mean,
Speaker 2: we love guys like Jowan Bentley, you know, the thumper
Speaker 2: at middle linebacker, but guys like that are rare now
Speaker 2: in the league, and so it's good to see him
Speaker 2: develop a little bit. But Jude on being sort of
Speaker 2: the I mean, you know, first of all, he's not
Speaker 2: a traditional linebacker. We know that he you know, he's
Speaker 2: a a what's the word, I'm looking for, a three
Speaker 2: down lineman or you know that kind of thing. He's
Speaker 2: in a point stance where he'll line up on defensive end,
Speaker 2: so he don'ton't necessarily be in the linebacking corps. He'll
Speaker 2: line up defensive end, he'll rush the quarterback, he'll get
Speaker 2: after him if he can put pressure on the quarterback.
Speaker 2: He's valuable. If he can't get pressure on the quarterback,
Speaker 2: I would say, all right, then you probably got to
Speaker 2: make your move. So here's my prediction. All right, See,
Speaker 2: if you like this Charlie starts out, he'll play all right.
Speaker 2: But if he doesn't bring in numbers and he doesn't
Speaker 2: effectively or effectively affect this team, I think you'll see
Speaker 2: them move in younger players and he's going to move
Speaker 2: off into the limelight and maybe even you know, be
Speaker 2: some kind of a trade deal. And my guess is
Speaker 2: they'll probably fill his contract with incentives. And if they
Speaker 2: fill contract with incentives and he can't possibly make those incentives,
Speaker 2: you'll probably see him be willing to move back because
Speaker 2: he'll want to keep himself healthy for his next contract.
Speaker 22: What do you think I do want to add to
Speaker 22: that is I noticed that last year he did get
Speaker 22: a boost in his contract, like an extra pay, and
Speaker 22: now coming to this season, he's wanting more. So I'm
Speaker 22: just curious on your point here, is he really looking
Speaker 22: for the money or is he just here?
Speaker 2: I don't know that he's looking for the money. He doesn't.
Speaker 2: I mean, look, he's a flamboyant guy, you know, he's
Speaker 2: he's outspoken, but he has looked up to in that
Speaker 2: locker room. I don't think he's one of those guys
Speaker 2: that basically says, hey, show me the money first. I
Speaker 2: don't think he is, yeah, agree with you. I mean,
Speaker 2: you know, I think at first I thought he might be.
Speaker 2: I know, he brought that kind of a street rep,
Speaker 2: you know, when he came from the Ravens. But I
Speaker 2: gotta tell you, I you know, after listening to him talk,
Speaker 2: seeing his interactivity with his teammates, what he said in
Speaker 2: the media, I'm not sure. I think this guy truly
Speaker 2: wants to win, and I think he would like to
Speaker 2: build something back here in New England, as all these
Speaker 2: guys would, because you know, everybody knows, you know, England,
Speaker 2: you know, had the dynastic thing going for twenty years,
Speaker 2: and I think a lot of these guys would like
Speaker 2: to be a part of the second wave of that
Speaker 2: and try to build it back to the way it was.
Speaker 2: And I think Judahan is one of those guys that
Speaker 2: could appreciate that. Now having said that, he and Bill
Speaker 2: Belichick had a mutual admiration thing gone, Yes, okay, Coach
Speaker 2: Belichick is no longer here, so I'm wondering what his
Speaker 2: incentive might be, especially if he doesn't perform up to
Speaker 2: the expectations that we all have for him once the
Speaker 2: season starts, and where that leaves this team. Does the
Speaker 2: defense take a step back? And I mean this is
Speaker 2: where I can see why some people predict this team
Speaker 2: to only get three or four wins this year, because
Speaker 2: if the defense takes a step back, then this defense,
Speaker 2: this team is going to really struggle.
Speaker 26: Yeah, and I do agree with you. I think that
Speaker 26: New England is a it's a very special place for sports.
Speaker 26: New England has extremely loyal fans. And just today actually
Speaker 26: after the first training day, this reporter by the name
Speaker 26: of Dakota Randall, he got a chance to interview Matt
Speaker 26: and Matt says that if it were me and if
Speaker 26: everything goes well, he'd love to stay in Boston forever.
Speaker 26: He really wants to be a part of that second
Speaker 26: dynasty and he doesn't want to move again. And he
Speaker 26: mentioned that he doesn't want to be traded.
Speaker 2: Good. So see, that's that's positive. Yeah, Dacota Randalls with
Speaker 2: nesson dot Com. So yes, yeah, okay, I.
Speaker 13: Feel like he's an absolute team guy, like as he's
Speaker 13: saying like we're at training camp and we see him
Speaker 13: run out and he's just playing catch with the kids.
Speaker 13: He wants to be here, like he loves New England.
Speaker 13: He's an all around Patriots guy. I feel like he
Speaker 13: represents the Patriots team absolutely in a beautiful way.
Speaker 2: Okay, I mean to add on to that. I mean
Speaker 2: back to what Charlie was saying.
Speaker 27: For the age wise, I mean there's a negative and
Speaker 27: positivity about that desit with the new ventensive coronator like
Speaker 27: this came in DeMarcus comings In, who just you know,
Speaker 27: was the coronator down in Washington State. So for me,
Speaker 27: it's like for that young experience for him because he's
Speaker 27: been a you know what linebacker for.
Speaker 20: The Patriots before.
Speaker 2: But for me, it's like.
Speaker 27: Having that veteran guy who's been there, done that, especially
Speaker 27: with all these young guys. I mean, you definitely want
Speaker 27: to keep this team as defensive possibly possible as you can,
Speaker 27: because I mean, to be honest, last year when I
Speaker 27: watched games, you know, their defense kept him in the games.
Speaker 27: The offense wasn't provided. I mean I remember one game
Speaker 27: the Chargers and they got zero points and the defense
Speaker 27: allowed six points. So it's something like that, where you know,
Speaker 27: Judon Leavin or dude On not being signed here could
Speaker 27: affect just like the rookies because he's a big leader,
Speaker 27: he's main guy in the locker room. I mean, Patriot
Speaker 27: fans want him. I mean I saw today Huntreds to
Speaker 27: Judon shirts. I mean people love him. I mean, he's
Speaker 27: he's a he's a big fan favorite.
Speaker 2: He is a fan favorite. The fans seem to want
Speaker 2: him to still be here. I just you know the
Speaker 2: question that I asked you guys originally. I think when
Speaker 2: we started all this though, is does this defense need
Speaker 2: let's put a capital in on that word need. Does
Speaker 2: it need matt Judon? Why or why not?
Speaker 3: So?
Speaker 14: What?
Speaker 10: I so? What Matt Judon does?
Speaker 22: He changes the game, He can shake up the other
Speaker 22: team's game plans, and if he's still a Patriot, which
Speaker 22: is what the Patriots, Patriots need after that blue blow
Speaker 22: average season last year. So I think there's definitely some
Speaker 22: key things that the Patriots need Matthew Judon. But in
Speaker 22: my idea, I feel like there's gonna be better younger
Speaker 22: players out there that they should start developing him. Even
Speaker 22: though Matthew Judon, he is definitely a good leader in
Speaker 22: the locker room, showing the younger people how to do everything.
Speaker 2: So you don't think they need him with a capitol
Speaker 2: in I don't exactly think they need him.
Speaker 22: He's definitely a good aspect to the Patriots defense. Just
Speaker 22: saying on how good he did with his twenty twenty
Speaker 22: two season with fifteen and a half sacks and a
Speaker 22: lot of quarterback rushes. I think he adds a lot
Speaker 22: to the team. But very close here, it's gonna be
Speaker 22: his retirement. He's not going to be at his prime anymore.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's what I think, Ben, What do you think?
Speaker 13: Yeah?
Speaker 26: On the talking about in twenty twenty two, for example,
Speaker 26: during Week five, the Patriots were playing the Detroit Lions
Speaker 26: and the Detroit Lions got zero points, Patriots got twenty
Speaker 26: nine points and Matt had two sacks himself. That he
Speaker 26: was the leader of the defense that game, and he
Speaker 26: was a mentor to everybody on the defense. And I
Speaker 26: think that it is valuable even though he is getting
Speaker 26: older and he's not gonna run us fast, but having
Speaker 26: him to tell these young players what to do if
Speaker 26: he steps down, and if we have nobody, which which
Speaker 26: young player are we gonna grab. Are we going to say, Okay,
Speaker 26: you're now going to be the mentor he needs to
Speaker 26: teach other people? And then once he finally goes, people
Speaker 26: are going to step up into his position.
Speaker 2: So you think they need him? I do think though, Okay,
Speaker 2: all right, so we have one nay, one yeah, and
Speaker 2: I'm really kind of in the nay category, although I
Speaker 2: would like him to be here. But if I'm really
Speaker 2: gonna answer my own question, need I I know, sure, Okay,
Speaker 2: what do you think, Connor? You want to go?
Speaker 13: So I feel like I'm just gonna be honest. The
Speaker 13: Patriots have not been as good as they were in
Speaker 13: the past years, even though their defense is pretty solid.
Speaker 13: I feel like Matt Judon is a key contributor on
Speaker 13: that team. He gets the sacks, he gets the boys going,
Speaker 13: he gives them what they want, and I just feel
Speaker 13: like without him, it's just gonna be a bunch of
Speaker 13: young guys that don't have enough mentor, and I feel
Speaker 13: like he just gives them that energy, he gets them going.
Speaker 13: He's just that guy.
Speaker 27: Okay means Christopher Sorry interrupt, So speaking of your second
Speaker 27: wave of the dynasty. So with him being gone, if,
Speaker 27: for example, because I'm on the neath side for sure.
Speaker 27: With him, I mean, he has still a lot of talent.
Speaker 27: I mean he's still had fifteen and a half sacks
Speaker 27: the year before last year, so he's definitely was, you know, productive,
Speaker 27: and for me, a lot of things that you know
Speaker 27: he said and you know in his tweets and or
Speaker 27: what he said out loud was even though he's finely
Speaker 27: playing with it, he thinks it's not a fair value,
Speaker 27: which I understand for sure. I mean there's guys, you know,
Speaker 27: because I'm a Giants fan, Brian Burns got signed to
Speaker 27: a big contract for one hundred and fifty one million dollars,
Speaker 27: you know, and that's a guy who was, you know,
Speaker 27: maybe better or maybe as good as Judon, so as
Speaker 27: he sees that, because he also spoke about how it's
Speaker 27: tough to not to walk around, you know, every day
Speaker 27: training camp and see all these guys get paid big
Speaker 27: money and then you know that you deserve it, but
Speaker 27: everyone's going to disclude you because your age and your injuries.
Speaker 27: And he's been consistently healthy guy in most of his
Speaker 27: career and he's played seventeen games. I mean he had
Speaker 27: two games out in twenty twenty because of the COVID,
Speaker 27: But I mean last year was one stint, so we
Speaker 27: don't know. But for me, definitely, with the new defensive coordinator,
Speaker 27: with everyone being so young, they need someone else to
Speaker 27: stand up and be a veter in that locker room.
Speaker 2: So for me, yeah, yeah, And let me quantifyed need,
Speaker 2: because yeah, there are more things than just football talent
Speaker 2: that are needed on a roster, and it's those intangibles
Speaker 2: that the Patriots have taken pride in over a number
Speaker 2: of years when they've had leaders like Willie McGinnis to
Speaker 2: Teddy Bruski and Vince Wilfork and so many that have
Speaker 2: come down the pike, and they're all needed. But when
Speaker 2: you get a little bit longer in the tooth, you
Speaker 2: get a little bit older, the need changes, and so
Speaker 2: can you adjust to what the need of the team is.
Speaker 2: And that's really kind of where we are. Those players,
Speaker 2: for the most part, did adjust because they were able
Speaker 2: to kind of keep up with their abilities on the field.
Speaker 2: The Patriots needed it. I don't think as much today
Speaker 2: because there is so much versatility in the game, so
Speaker 2: many different guys can do so many different things. I
Speaker 2: think that versatility certainly can make you deeper but it
Speaker 2: can also make guys expendable if you can't do the
Speaker 2: job that you're signed to do. Matt Judon is signed
Speaker 2: to rush the passer. If he can't rush the passer,
Speaker 2: the need dries up. Now that's on a football sense.
Speaker 2: The need for leadership, the need for veteran mentorship still
Speaker 2: exists and will probably always exist. That kind of then
Speaker 2: situation would fall to a guy like Jacoby Brissett, would
Speaker 2: probably fall to the head coach and Gerrod Mail. It
Speaker 2: would fall to the veteran people who have been around
Speaker 2: the game for a number of years, more so than
Speaker 2: the players on the field. I feel like the Patriots
Speaker 2: initially wanted to and my guess is that that they're
Speaker 2: doing this. Bring him back with an augmented deal, play
Speaker 2: on the last year, give him. You can add some
Speaker 2: incentives to the deal where you can still play on
Speaker 2: it and it won't hurt your overall cap. They've still
Speaker 2: got a little bit of money to play with. I
Speaker 2: think they're like ninth in money spent in the NFL
Speaker 2: after this off season, which there still gives them a
Speaker 2: little bit of breathing room, and I think they'll give
Speaker 2: him every opportunity to reach those incentives, but if he
Speaker 2: doesn't get closed, then the need will dwindle.
Speaker 22: So to add to you on that with the cap space,
Speaker 22: I was seeing that the Patriots do have the second
Speaker 22: most cap space in the NFL yep with I think
Speaker 22: around fifty three million right now. So if the Patriots
Speaker 22: really wanted to sign Matt Judon again, I feel like
Speaker 22: they would have already done it. They're they're trying to
Speaker 22: see probably during this training camp, is he really gonna
Speaker 22: do we really still need him?
Speaker 2: That he said the right things today, then didn't he.
Speaker 26: Yes, yes he did, Okay, And I think that the
Speaker 26: Patriots are also in this this rebuild state.
Speaker 2: A whole other topic.
Speaker 26: You know, we we have all these young people and
Speaker 26: we're building them up to be as good as Matt
Speaker 26: one day.
Speaker 2: You have to you have to have to. And that's
Speaker 2: part of the reason. I mean that does add to
Speaker 2: some of the need because if you're signing these other
Speaker 2: veteran players in the off season, well why not Judon. Well,
Speaker 2: but Judon's in a little bit of a category. Number one,
Speaker 2: he's older. Number two, he's got to he had a
Speaker 2: heavier contre. Number three, he's coming off you know, an
Speaker 2: injury that knocked him out for much of the year.
Speaker 2: And so to me, if I'm looking at it strictly
Speaker 2: from a money since, I'd go to Matt and I'd say, look,
Speaker 2: you know, we want you here, we want you to
Speaker 2: be a part of this, but we you know, paid
Speaker 2: you a lot of money last year and you lasted
Speaker 2: what three four games, So you know, can you meet
Speaker 2: us halfway on some of this stuff, you know, and
Speaker 2: we'll try to give you enough to where you can
Speaker 2: earn the money and then you know, when the off season,
Speaker 2: you know, when the off season rolls around, hopefully you've
Speaker 2: built yourself up another the resume where you can go
Speaker 2: out and get another contract. And if not, hey we're
Speaker 2: still here and we'll still be an option. And I
Speaker 2: think that's really the way to play it. It seems
Speaker 2: to me, at least from his initial comments today, that
Speaker 2: you know, he's willing to play ball, and I think
Speaker 2: that is a huge positive step for the New England Pagers,
Speaker 2: not just the defense, but this team overall, if he's
Speaker 2: not gonna hold out. Because I was scared death, not literally,
Speaker 2: but you know what I mean. I was concerned that
Speaker 2: he wouldn't show it all today and then of course
Speaker 2: I heard last night that he was coming in. I know,
Speaker 2: you guys would get a chance to you probably see
Speaker 2: him a little bit on the field today, which you did.
Speaker 2: What were your impressions of what you saw on defense?
Speaker 13: I feel like he could have gotten a lot more
Speaker 13: in on defense.
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 13: I did like what I saw, but I just feel
Speaker 13: like he didn't play as much as I expected him
Speaker 13: to play.
Speaker 27: Okay, Christopher, And for me sending as you know mcconnor said,
Speaker 27: I mean, the reps were lacking. I mean I saw
Speaker 27: a lot of times on the side. I mean for me,
Speaker 27: he definitely I think he did see some good things.
Speaker 27: I mean definitely over by you know, the second field
Speaker 27: I was at, I saw the linebacker group and just
Speaker 27: trying to teach him stuff.
Speaker 20: And look, he definitely looked really helpful.
Speaker 2: So you did see some you know, sort of coach
Speaker 2: speak out there front.
Speaker 27: Yeah, and for sure, and I saw some friend friendly ship.
Speaker 27: And obviously when he walked up, you know and came
Speaker 27: out of the field hang out with the fans and
Speaker 27: you know, obviously waited a couple of fans are screaming
Speaker 27: his name. And he's a good guy, you know, because
Speaker 27: you know, he's been you know, for his life. You know,
Speaker 27: he grew up with nine brothers and sisters and he's
Speaker 27: known how the team team works. So for him, it's
Speaker 27: not I'm not so concerned about him. I'm not concerned
Speaker 27: about the Patriots because, like Charlie said, why would to
Speaker 27: pay him now? Because they have all this cap space.
Speaker 27: Which another thing to add on is they play these
Speaker 27: guys on offense their job. So far, they haven't showed up,
Speaker 27: like there's a stat of him being them being the
Speaker 27: worst in the league offensively and defensively they're Karen the Low.
Speaker 27: They're making stops on these big time offensive teams, he
Speaker 27: said last year. So for me, they need Judon for
Speaker 27: that reason. Also, he's just a good presence of the team.
Speaker 27: So definitely, you know, if they're gonna sign him, yes,
Speaker 27: sign him now.
Speaker 2: So you would be for the sign in terms of
Speaker 2: the need overall. Yes, Connory, what about you?
Speaker 13: Yeah, I would want to sign him again. I just
Speaker 13: feel like now, especially after all we saw a training camp,
Speaker 13: he's becoming more of a mentor than a star player,
Speaker 13: which is absolutely what the Patriots need. Is they have
Speaker 13: a very young defense.
Speaker 26: Yeah, yeah, Ben, you know, first This was my very
Speaker 26: first time actually at a NFL training camp, and it
Speaker 26: was such an exciting place to be and it was
Speaker 26: an amazing opportunity. When I first there, I saw Matt
Speaker 26: playing with the fans. I saw him connecting. He has
Speaker 26: this chemistry with his teammates and with all of his fans.
Speaker 26: People were smiling, and on the field he was he
Speaker 26: was great. We were actually we were all watching together
Speaker 26: as a group. And I think that even though they
Speaker 26: are in this rebuilt state, having a mentor for these young, young,
Speaker 26: up and coming players is very important. And like you said,
Speaker 26: I agree with the incentives where hey, you can play,
Speaker 26: but you have to reach these goals to get your money.
Speaker 26: And I think that that's very important for him because
Speaker 26: he can stay. He doesn't want to leave, he doesn't
Speaker 26: want to be traded. However, he still needs to play
Speaker 26: well and still needs to reach these goals.
Speaker 2: Charlie, what were your observations today?
Speaker 10: Oh, so what I saw today? I saw him on
Speaker 10: the left field.
Speaker 22: He was getting after the quarterback, definitely, But I mean
Speaker 22: I barely got to see him play.
Speaker 10: He I didn't see much out of him.
Speaker 22: Others say he did, but I mean, I'm not really sure,
Speaker 22: I could have a wrong, but I definitely think right
Speaker 22: now the Patriots are looking at him as kind of
Speaker 22: in the back space because he he wants to get paid.
Speaker 10: That's obvious.
Speaker 22: But I just think I just think the Patriots are
Speaker 22: kind of looking past him. I feel like the Patriots
Speaker 22: are trying to find that new guy and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, can't disagree with that. Guys. Good job,
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