Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast is the Ultimate Dad show.
Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition to Be Around the NFL Podcast.
Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansis. I'm joining in a room
Speaker 1: filled with some heroes. Mark Sessler to my left, Greg
Speaker 1: Rosenfelt in my right. What is up? Boys? Yo? Yo?
Speaker 1: No concept? How to start the show without Western That's
Speaker 1: our new one. It's taking off. People love it all
Speaker 1: over the country, all over the world. When West comes back,
Speaker 1: we're going out to let him know that height Ian
Speaker 1: has been replaced by Greg and Yo yo. I like it.
Speaker 1: It's it's appealing. Um. Something crazy happen when I pulled
Speaker 1: into the complex today that I had to get off
Speaker 1: my chest immediately. And long time listeners of the show
Speaker 1: will be aware that for years now I've had a
Speaker 1: bit of a a a war going on with a gentleman.
Speaker 1: He is the head of building security here in NFL Media,
Speaker 1: and uh, there's been a lot of threats, always one
Speaker 1: way coming toward the old zeuser. Um, you know, little
Speaker 1: things on the windshield. Don't park here, you'll be toad
Speaker 1: next time. Sometimes a crony, one of his cronies would
Speaker 1: come and and threaten me if I didn't move the car.
Speaker 1: Well today as I'm pulling in and I got I
Speaker 1: got both kids at home right now. My wife is
Speaker 1: away on a fun trip with her girlfriends Um, which
Speaker 1: she deserves. And Honey, I hope you're having a great time.
Speaker 1: You've never listened to the show, if you picked this show,
Speaker 1: how you doing? Um? Uh? I was running a little
Speaker 1: bit late because I was taking care of Jack and Harry.
Speaker 1: Come screaming in here at ten fifty seven, and there's
Speaker 1: there he is. It's the man. You've talked about this
Speaker 1: man a few times on the show over the years,
Speaker 1: and you know, Eagle, you know, big time, long time
Speaker 1: listeners know about this man, right so and me needing
Speaker 1: to get into the office and not I'm not somebody
Speaker 1: searching for conflict. If I had some more time, I'm
Speaker 1: i'd kind of wait out because right there was the
Speaker 1: parking spot, the talent parking spot area that for many
Speaker 1: years has been a bone of contention between me and UM.
Speaker 1: And this time he said, I'm running late. He's standing
Speaker 1: right there. I'm gonna pull right in, and then I
Speaker 1: realized we had never been face to face. But okay, okay,
Speaker 1: get out of the car, and I could feel him
Speaker 1: looking at me, and he stops me and he says,
Speaker 1: that's a talent only spot. Wow, And I go and
Speaker 1: I don't want to have to say something nobody wants
Speaker 1: to have to say this when I go, I am talent,
Speaker 1: And then he goes after a beat, I know, I
Speaker 1: recognize you been so all right, So this has been resolved.
Speaker 1: I don't know. You could parse the words in a
Speaker 1: couple of different ways. So but for years you were
Speaker 1: you were presuming yourself to be talent in his eyes
Speaker 1: and just taking the spot. You know, the first two
Speaker 1: years of your conflict, I was convinced he thought that
Speaker 1: I was you. I'm sure you did. And there also
Speaker 1: was a time when we um during the show was
Speaker 1: going to screw you. Well, there was a family event
Speaker 1: on the weekend, and he there was the same gentleman
Speaker 1: forbid us from taking our children into the building to
Speaker 1: look at the news room and essentially like a father
Speaker 1: child experience, come visit dad's work, very straight and we
Speaker 1: should not be allowed in the building. And we all
Speaker 1: snuck in another you know chapter in you, it's been
Speaker 1: a battle battle talent part that he was not allowing you,
Speaker 1: or that that was a bone of contention Yes, for
Speaker 1: years this has been going on, and finally it was
Speaker 1: the big face to face. It's like in heat when finally,
Speaker 1: after years of silver silver screen greatness, you had Pacino
Speaker 1: and de Niro sitting at the table. It's just like that.
Speaker 1: That's what this was about. And Uh, I'm feeling pretty good.
Speaker 1: Other NFL media things going on right now. Um, they
Speaker 1: had this is Awards season in house. They is the
Speaker 1: NFL Commissioner's Awards, and we heard from some sparrows, including
Speaker 1: show host Colleen Wolf. Uh that our little voiceover we did,
Speaker 1: um announcing the nominees for the Rising Star Award. It
Speaker 1: was on camera. It was a Roger Goodell was there.
Speaker 1: Everyone was there, was in New Jersey, but it was
Speaker 1: simulcast here. UM in house in l A. Got a
Speaker 1: lot of chuckles and amusement. UM. And that to me,
Speaker 1: I'll take that as a victory. It's the closest we'll
Speaker 1: ever get to winning an award or an award on
Speaker 1: that show. Um, So I'll take that mild amusement. Apparently
Speaker 1: based on I got an email from a high ranking
Speaker 1: executive at the NFL saying it got a great response
Speaker 1: that appreciated. Here he is look out at NFL Network.
Speaker 1: It says something though that you know, as you're arguing
Speaker 1: with your body over being talent, that none of us
Speaker 1: were even in the audience or around yesterday to see
Speaker 1: any of this. Or my my boss Sarah, who's wonderful. Um,
Speaker 1: she also let me know that it had went over well,
Speaker 1: and then she says, why weren't you there because you
Speaker 1: could watch? I guess it's you could sit in the
Speaker 1: studio here and was here he was in l A.
Speaker 1: Oh really okay? And I said, I'm more like the
Speaker 1: Jack Nicholson type. It's like I don't go to the
Speaker 1: award show unless I know I'm winning. I feel like
Speaker 1: we were there through our production. I did here. I
Speaker 1: talked to someone downstairs who basically I wanted to know
Speaker 1: if Goodell A thought it was humorous and that he
Speaker 1: registered laughter and enjoyed it, and if he had any
Speaker 1: concept of who we were. And I was scolded for
Speaker 1: not for not knowing that Goodell would know who we are,
Speaker 1: for not assuming that, um that he does seem to know.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like when you hear about people auditioning
Speaker 1: for SNL and the whole thing is one thing don't
Speaker 1: lose your confidence. Lauren never laughs like Warren Michaels will
Speaker 1: never laugh. But it doesn't mean he doesn't like you.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm thinking. If even if if Rod was
Speaker 1: stone faced, doesn't mean that it didn't registers. Oh these
Speaker 1: guys are you know? They are straight shooters to the top.
Speaker 1: Well he did. Let there is a second note, because
Speaker 1: what our task was, each one of us there were
Speaker 1: four options to pick for the Rising Store, and we
Speaker 1: each locked one of them up, sort of a mock segment,
Speaker 1: mox segment. But I took it very seriously. And it's
Speaker 1: a good thing that I did. Because the gentleman who
Speaker 1: I pitched game Pass leader, Max Boygan, he won. I
Speaker 1: locked him up. Anyone, that's pretty good. How do you
Speaker 1: how do you in the off season top the championship
Speaker 1: I won for the regular season? You lock up Max
Speaker 1: Boygan and he nailed it. Our transition into just being
Speaker 1: company men is now complete. If you're part of the
Speaker 1: Commissioner's Awards, we can't really say we're we're like the
Speaker 1: fighting trophy in there. I mean, we have a globally
Speaker 1: successful podcast and what is the greatest new media in
Speaker 1: in new media, which is the podcast industry, for years.
Speaker 1: Maybe we take home some hardware one of these years
Speaker 1: feels it feels timely into both sides of the old Atlantic.
Speaker 1: We're thriving. I mean, you got your parking spot. Let's
Speaker 1: today's show. We're going mini camp. The first week of
Speaker 1: mandatory mini camps has wrapped. How many teams had their
Speaker 1: mini camps this week? Eight teams and then we have
Speaker 1: the rest our next week? Is that? Um So we're
Speaker 1: going to share some kind of takeaways, well kind of
Speaker 1: just not quite rapid fire, but we're gonna go around
Speaker 1: the horn a bunch of times, just throwing out different
Speaker 1: things that we read or saw that jumped out to us.
Speaker 1: You don't want to put too much greg into a
Speaker 1: few practices, but it's the first real football of consequence,
Speaker 1: um as we head towards mini camp or training camp.
Speaker 1: So it's something just don't get too spicy with the
Speaker 1: take Some people get way too spi Yeah, that's this
Speaker 1: is something that's changed over the here. They also don't
Speaker 1: have tackling anymore at this out of the year, so
Speaker 1: it's even the mini camps that are mandatory, it's they're
Speaker 1: mini it's kind uh. And we'll close the show with
Speaker 1: some iTunes reviews, as we promised on Wednesday, but before that,
Speaker 1: let us do some news dark sprawls or the back
Speaker 1: field fill Pounded twelve when f one skins away a
Speaker 1: pressure still on his feet, call he fires stop. So
Speaker 1: I pulled that clip for the news drop because I
Speaker 1: was watching a two thousand seventeen highlight package of Carson
Speaker 1: Wentz was thirteen minutes long. And why because Carson Wentz
Speaker 1: was the best quarterback on the planet before he blew
Speaker 1: out his knee in seventeen. Last year, UM, the Eagles
Speaker 1: still won the Super Bowl, of course with Nick Foles,
Speaker 1: and then last year more injury issues for wins. But
Speaker 1: in a sign of supreme faith, Philadelphia on Thursday agreed
Speaker 1: to a four year extension with Carson went through. UH.
Speaker 1: The deal is worth a hundred and twenty eight million
Speaker 1: and up till hundred forty four million with sixty six
Speaker 1: and that's the most important number, million fully guaranteed UH
Speaker 1: and a hundred and seven point nine million and guarantees.
Speaker 1: Greg will parse that for me, rap Sheet had those
Speaker 1: numbers once. His average annual value on the new four
Speaker 1: year deal thirty two million, doesn't beat Russell Williams Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson at thirty five, but it surpasses everyone in the
Speaker 1: total guarantee number, So he's paid like a super duper star,
Speaker 1: which Greg he probably deserves. He he absolutely deserves. And
Speaker 1: this entire kind of quarterback contract like reaction industrial complex
Speaker 1: has become the most tiring part of the NFL news media,
Speaker 1: Like it's the least interesting and most discussed part of
Speaker 1: the sport at this point. It's like these quarterback hunt
Speaker 1: they all get him. You get one. If you're over
Speaker 1: a certain level, you get it. You don't have to
Speaker 1: think too hard about it. The takes that really bother
Speaker 1: me is like, you know, it's you know, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be hard to really build around Carson Wentz now because
Speaker 1: he's taken up so much of the it. Look look
Speaker 1: at the cap space around the league. Half the teams
Speaker 1: have more than twenty million dollars in cap space. Ten ten,
Speaker 1: fifteen teams like rolled thirty forty fifty million dollars of
Speaker 1: cap space into the opscene. Teams aren't even using cap
Speaker 1: space all the time. The harder part is finding enough
Speaker 1: good players to actually spend all that money on. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's what teams like the Jets and the Browns have
Speaker 1: have struggled with in recent years is finding enough good players. Now,
Speaker 1: there are some teams like the Eagles and the Vikings
Speaker 1: who have all these candidates for long term extends, but
Speaker 1: look at their rosters. They have more long term contracts
Speaker 1: for other positions than anyone else. And they got Kirk
Speaker 1: Cousins and Carson Wentz on their roster, so you can
Speaker 1: figure it out. It's just like, there's not two right.
Speaker 1: It could be if you have a rookie quarterback or
Speaker 1: that's an advantage, or a late draft pick, you will
Speaker 1: have more spending and you could spend quarterback money on
Speaker 1: a cornerback or a defensive tackle or an end and
Speaker 1: that's a huge advantage. But just because you signed a
Speaker 1: superstar quarterback to a massive deal, it's not an issue
Speaker 1: where you, oh, now we're hamstrung. There's plenty of money
Speaker 1: and the cap keeps going up. Right, Like, how many
Speaker 1: people in the next few years are gonna be like,
Speaker 1: I don't know if the Packers can build a legitimate
Speaker 1: team with the Darius Smith and Preston Smith on the
Speaker 1: Packers rafter, But those two two guys who are fine
Speaker 1: add up to a quarterback. You look at the the
Speaker 1: list of annual salaries and they're topped by Russell Wilson.
Speaker 1: As you mentioned, it almost just looks like uh slotting
Speaker 1: for first round picks. As you go down the list,
Speaker 1: where they're each making a little bit, little bit less
Speaker 1: than the one before you know what the price is.
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz was the next huy up the concept that
Speaker 1: it's any sort of thing that you would not spend
Speaker 1: this money. Two years now, it's gonna look like an awesome,
Speaker 1: awesome contract if he remains healthy, and I don't really
Speaker 1: view his durability as a reason to not get that contract,
Speaker 1: if anyone's hemming and hauling about that. Also, if there's
Speaker 1: if there's really any analysis to be done, it's like,
Speaker 1: once the guys over a certain level, they're going to
Speaker 1: get that contract, So when do you give it to him?
Speaker 1: And the Eagles decided to do it as early as
Speaker 1: humanly possible, which is smart because the price after Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott signs will probably only go up. And when is
Speaker 1: that a point right now where he's coming off an injury,
Speaker 1: maybe except a little less guarantees, Like all these contracts
Speaker 1: eventually end up being middle of the pack and looking better,
Speaker 1: so you might if you're committed to a guy, and
Speaker 1: of course they're committed to him, you just signed him
Speaker 1: as quick. It's almos. It's almost like when you take
Speaker 1: your children out for dinner or something and then the
Speaker 1: bill comes. And for my children, who are like seven
Speaker 1: and eight, if the bill is like forty five dollars,
Speaker 1: it is mind blowing money and they can't comprehend, like
Speaker 1: it's or can we afford that as a family. They
Speaker 1: have no concept of money at all. Fans, if I
Speaker 1: if I'm just a fan, I don't know why I'd
Speaker 1: ever worry about contracts at all. There's so much cap space.
Speaker 1: People worried about it, but it's it just seems to
Speaker 1: me like a non issue. In two nineteen, another tired
Speaker 1: take two is is that this always have the second
Speaker 1: it happened Jared, like a bunch of Jeff's they break
Speaker 1: out the Birdman Jeff where he's uh, you know, he's like,
Speaker 1: you know, rubbing his hands together, all excited about getting
Speaker 1: more money or whatever. It's like it's like, oh, Dak Prescott,
Speaker 1: Jared Goff that here's them watching the Carson Wentz contract.
Speaker 1: They're all excited. No it's like, no, there, well, all
Speaker 1: of these contracts all go up. They like those guys
Speaker 1: would get their contracts no matter what. And imagine if
Speaker 1: you're a fan of a team that always has a
Speaker 1: target on its back and all your signings like a C. J.
Speaker 1: Moseley or Levian Bell, you get killed for it because
Speaker 1: they got too much money. That is a little bit annoying. Uh,
Speaker 1: I agree, it's all it's it's funny money right now.
Speaker 1: Two more things you mentioned golf and he wants to
Speaker 1: get that bag. He's the first overall pick in the
Speaker 1: year Wins went number two. You wonder what contract he's
Speaker 1: gonna get. And I think for a guy that's done
Speaker 1: a lot in the league in the last couple of years,
Speaker 1: he's still I think has to perform at a very
Speaker 1: high level to get Wins money despite being a think ahead.
Speaker 1: But where we stand today, I'd be shocked if he doesn't.
Speaker 1: The Rams have indicated he's getting it and they're not.
Speaker 1: They're they're committed to give it to him. Now. I
Speaker 1: think if you don't, I think they will by by
Speaker 1: the start of this season. I think is kind of
Speaker 1: is kind of their deadline. And then my last thought
Speaker 1: on Wentz is I did get some tweets. I don't
Speaker 1: know about you guys when we did Dalton Scale and
Speaker 1: maybe another other exercise we did in the last month
Speaker 1: or so. How come you guys aren't talking about wins,
Speaker 1: Whether he deserves to be somewhere, doesn't desire to be somewhere.
Speaker 1: We're all in the agreement that Wentz he was a
Speaker 1: key to me and that Yeah, we didn't get tweets
Speaker 1: because we didn't. We didn't mention every quarterback above the
Speaker 1: any Dalton. His name did not come up during that
Speaker 1: episode without any question. I think I had him at
Speaker 1: like ten or eleven because we feel the same way
Speaker 1: Doug Peterson and Howie Roseman do that this guy is
Speaker 1: an ascendance star. Despite the injury issues and other news.
Speaker 1: Trent Williams uh the standout tackle for the Redskins. He
Speaker 1: has not been around Redskins O t a s. He
Speaker 1: also skipped uh mandatory minicamp. Initially, the the feeling was
Speaker 1: it was due to his contract and he wants he
Speaker 1: wants that bag. He wants a bigger bag, breaking bag.
Speaker 1: In what our money Drop, it's at that podcast. Sometimes
Speaker 1: you're just a little late on the curve on these.
Speaker 1: But I like, this is truly the Dad podcast right
Speaker 1: now because we don't have a force in here. It's
Speaker 1: just all Dad. Uh So, three men and a little
Speaker 1: lady right behind the glass. Little Yeah, that's in a
Speaker 1: tiny lady anyway. So Trent was everyone thought, Oh, it's
Speaker 1: because he just wants the bag. No, it's also because
Speaker 1: he's Piste rap Sheet reported Wednesday that along with a
Speaker 1: new contract desires, there is quote frustration from Williams over
Speaker 1: the handling of his health scare earlier this spring. And
Speaker 1: you may remember they had he had a growth removed
Speaker 1: from his scalp that was originally thought to be cancerous.
Speaker 1: Luck fortunately it turned out that it was not the case.
Speaker 1: We don't have all the details, but apparently, uh, Williams,
Speaker 1: who has dealt with a lot of health issues nothing
Speaker 1: that's serious in his last several years of the Redskins,
Speaker 1: he is not happy how that situation was handled. Uh
Speaker 1: And for that reason, on principle, he's saying he wants
Speaker 1: out of town. Yeah. I just think this is worth
Speaker 1: bringing up just to keep an eye on, because Trent
Speaker 1: Williams is one of the best tackles in football when
Speaker 1: he's healthy. Top two or three, I would say, and
Speaker 1: the fact that he's kind of getting almost it's almost personal.
Speaker 1: And it's not the first time you've heard some things
Speaker 1: the Redskins. They've they've had either bad luck or just
Speaker 1: a lot of drama with their medical situations for a
Speaker 1: number of players over the years. Bruce Allen It commented
Speaker 1: on it. He's of course running the Redskins, he says,
Speaker 1: I know what the truth is. And it's just like
Speaker 1: once they have like even a modicum of a little
Speaker 1: bit of positivity of like, Okay, Dwayne Askins is out
Speaker 1: there with the first team, and it's like, here's like
Speaker 1: more negativity for the Redskins. I mean something with the
Speaker 1: this is not selling it's going away anytime soon. You
Speaker 1: have to wonder, if you know, he's under contract through
Speaker 1: next season making about fourteen plus million a year, I
Speaker 1: have to wonder if this becomes a trade situation at
Speaker 1: some point, because it's it's extremely thorny, and like you said,
Speaker 1: it's personal. And the Redskins you have a rookie quarterback
Speaker 1: and potentially Eric Flowers starting at left tackle. All right,
Speaker 1: that's what's happening in the news. That's that would be
Speaker 1: a huge loss, especially the rookie quarterback. You want the
Speaker 1: blind side, you want to you want to protecting you.
Speaker 1: That's the that's the rule. That's essentially what the rule.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's not just about the bag. Sometimes it's about it.
Speaker 1: You would think that I bet the bag would solve
Speaker 1: it though anyway. So it's just like, you know, you
Speaker 1: know what would solve me silently grumbling about us not
Speaker 1: getting any hardware from these all these internal awards, the bag.
Speaker 1: You make a strong case they're gonna secure me with
Speaker 1: the pink slip. I don't shut up. That's what's happening
Speaker 1: in the news. I don't think that's how it works.
Speaker 1: From all right, let's get to it, um. Some takeaways
Speaker 1: from mandatory Minicamp eight teams UH held their practices there.
Speaker 1: Everyone had to be there, hence mandatory. So you finally
Speaker 1: got a look at what these new UM updated rosters
Speaker 1: look like on offense and defense. So let's just kind
Speaker 1: of go around the league and throw out some things
Speaker 1: that jumped out to us. Greg you get us going.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna start with the Redskins since we were
Speaker 1: just there that I found it interesting that Haskins their
Speaker 1: number one pick is already splitting the first team reps
Speaker 1: with Keenum. Sometimes it's like you make the rookie work
Speaker 1: his way into that this or that. Onlooker say, Keenum
Speaker 1: looks a little more um comfortable in the offense at
Speaker 1: this point, which isn't surprising he's an NFL vet in.
Speaker 1: But Haskins, of course looks like the guy who has
Speaker 1: a little more upside. The bigger arm had some more
Speaker 1: wow plays. But the fact and Jay Gruden said, they're
Speaker 1: not even barely competing at this point. They're not even
Speaker 1: thinking about that. I believe that in non private practices.
Speaker 1: But the fact that they're splitting reps right off the bat,
Speaker 1: that just would indicate to me that the tie is
Speaker 1: going to go to the rookie usually does that. He's
Speaker 1: got a great chance to be the week one started.
Speaker 1: You know, we we haven't done our coach hot seat
Speaker 1: rankings at this point. If you're Jake Ruden, you want
Speaker 1: the best case scenario is Haskins taking off early in
Speaker 1: his career and suddenly you're attached to someone who's ascending.
Speaker 1: The worst case situation is him not doing that and
Speaker 1: hoping that you have a job from a year from
Speaker 1: now after riding through the year with Case Keenum as
Speaker 1: your quarterback. Case Keenum is just simply not going to
Speaker 1: be enough for him to stick around. Jake ruden Um
Speaker 1: on the subject of Redsin's quarterbacks. Finally some good news
Speaker 1: on Alex Smith, who's still technically with the team, but
Speaker 1: he suffered that devastating UH leg injury. Broken leg. He's
Speaker 1: been wearing that the worst thing you could have because
Speaker 1: not only is it limit your mobility in a cruel way,
Speaker 1: but it just looks scary as how the external fixator
Speaker 1: when they have all the wires going into your leg
Speaker 1: to keep the leg stabilized. Well, he still has that
Speaker 1: on and I'll have it on for another month or two,
Speaker 1: according to Mike Garafolo, But there seems to be progress
Speaker 1: and they and they're feeling good about It's there's not,
Speaker 1: you know, so much indecisiveness about what comes next in
Speaker 1: his recovery. It's just the long road ahead. You talked
Speaker 1: about quarterbacks, Greg, So I'll throw another quarterback camp battle
Speaker 1: looming in Miami. UH. From the Palm Beach Post, Let's
Speaker 1: jump into the fish tank UH report from Hal Habib,
Speaker 1: who says that Bryan Fitzpatrick is certainly looks ahead of
Speaker 1: Josh Rosen right now, but that should not be a
Speaker 1: surprise or anything to read too much into. Even Rosen
Speaker 1: himself said, it's not really a competition right now, although Josh,
Speaker 1: I want you, I want to see that fire at
Speaker 1: some point, show me the fire at some point. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna take one quote and make a big thing
Speaker 1: out of it. But go get that job anyway. Fits Patrick,
Speaker 1: don't get it, say something, do something anyway, This magic
Speaker 1: is Um ahead of Rosen right now. Um, but what
Speaker 1: and Rosen is catching up He got traded there, and
Speaker 1: and Fitzpatrick had a head start Um earlier in the
Speaker 1: process of the team year. But anyway, Uh, the I
Speaker 1: think could be made a good point. The way you
Speaker 1: look at the schedule, it kind of looks obvious where
Speaker 1: is um with the Redskins. If the rookies neck and
Speaker 1: neck with the veteran, the rookie is probably gonna start.
Speaker 1: But with Rosen and and and Fitzpatrick's track record, it
Speaker 1: probably makes a lot of sense potentially to give Fitzpatrick
Speaker 1: the starting job. There's some tough games early on, there's
Speaker 1: a bye week in early October, and then Rosen gets
Speaker 1: in early enough where you get a really good look
Speaker 1: at him, uh, and then decide whether you want to
Speaker 1: stick with Rosen or go get some hot shot in
Speaker 1: the draft. But right now, uh, Fitzpatrick is looking good.
Speaker 1: He's been connecting well DeVante Parker, who by the way,
Speaker 1: is still there and has been having a really good camp.
Speaker 1: Something to keep an eye on. But um, right now
Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick ahead of Rosen early on. And the way they
Speaker 1: they've had it is the it's essentially the Fitzpatrick's versus
Speaker 1: the Rosen's. They have the same units working with each quarterback.
Speaker 1: So Fitzpatrick has his guys and Rosen has his guys,
Speaker 1: and I guess Minca Fitzpatrick um on who is has
Speaker 1: been on defense, opposing the Rosens and causing a number
Speaker 1: of problems for Josh Rosen. But they basically said Fitzpatrick
Speaker 1: has just been a little bit the offense has been
Speaker 1: a little bit more big, play heavy and explosive. If
Speaker 1: we want to put anything into that at this point,
Speaker 1: not yeah, not, I know what West would say. Not
Speaker 1: a surprise. And also Ryan Fitzpatrick's had a pretty long
Speaker 1: good career for a reason, Like he knows how to play,
Speaker 1: he knows how to play quarterback the NFL level, which
Speaker 1: Rosen still has to prove. Yeah, the Parker stuff is
Speaker 1: just year after year he is the star of the
Speaker 1: off season. But well, it helps to have the coach
Speaker 1: that would tried to trade you, like four times they did.
Speaker 1: He did quietly resigned him to a brand new contract
Speaker 1: this offseason. I don't think we even hit that, you know,
Speaker 1: like he could have been a free agent. They gave
Speaker 1: him this kind of low cost deal to to bring
Speaker 1: him back for two years instead of giving him the option.
Speaker 1: And uh, it all paid off because the Dolphins social
Speaker 1: media team got to put up a no look pass
Speaker 1: by Ryan Fitzpatrick. The Parker diving on the sidelines. It
Speaker 1: doesn't get any better than that. In June minicamp, it's
Speaker 1: now June seventh, is fits. He still have that cute
Speaker 1: little popt belly. Did he work that out? Has anybody
Speaker 1: seen any footage? I think he's one of those athletes
Speaker 1: he's able to readjust the look of his body so
Speaker 1: quickly that he's probably looking you know, very spelt, I thought,
Speaker 1: and relatable when he was jiggling all over the place
Speaker 1: back in March. Alright, Uh, your turn, Mark, Well I
Speaker 1: will go to Cleveland because there is a lingering concern
Speaker 1: before all these you know, this hype fest that's happening.
Speaker 1: It's a nice time to be a Browns fan. Um,
Speaker 1: but I the Browns, any Browns fan that's been around
Speaker 1: you now it is because you are wondering how it
Speaker 1: will will go number one, and I don't want to
Speaker 1: get I don't I see some Browns fans out there
Speaker 1: already sort of saying, like, just book us for the
Speaker 1: super Bowl, how about go when it. Let's see what
Speaker 1: happens by the end of October this nine start that
Speaker 1: would I want to see progress, but I don't want
Speaker 1: to get in all that that. The concern for me
Speaker 1: is has been and continues to be the offensive line
Speaker 1: because they just parted ways with Desmond Harrison, who was
Speaker 1: a bit of a disaster at tackle to start the
Speaker 1: season last year because he was not showing up to
Speaker 1: meetings on time. I don't know how this whole story
Speaker 1: Cardinals picked him up, but they now have Greg Robinson
Speaker 1: and Chris Hubbard at tackle. I think I would view
Speaker 1: both of those situations as highly suspect no matter how
Speaker 1: they played at the end of last year. The other
Speaker 1: concern is that you traded away Ken van Zeitler, and
Speaker 1: at right guard they wanted to have Austin Corbett go
Speaker 1: in there, and in mini camp this week he has
Speaker 1: spent a lot of time essentially just rotating at garden
Speaker 1: backup center. There's a guy Eric Kush battling for the
Speaker 1: right guard position, and Corbett is someone that is not
Speaker 1: essentially in year two, which they needed him to step
Speaker 1: up starting role supporting actor Eric Cush. Eric Kush absolutely,
Speaker 1: but Corbett is not not really taken the leadership role
Speaker 1: and stepped in and played the way they want. That
Speaker 1: to me gives you three spots on an offensive line
Speaker 1: that are potentially suspect with and I get all the
Speaker 1: fancy pieces around it. But from a skill position angle,
Speaker 1: it sounds like things are looking good because David and Joke,
Speaker 1: who they said has been looking like a completely different
Speaker 1: advanced player at tight end. You know, Odell has been
Speaker 1: fine all this other stuff. But if your offensive line
Speaker 1: has issues, teams go south quickly on a specially and
Speaker 1: teams can. You don't need how to have you know,
Speaker 1: big name talent to have a functional offensive line, but
Speaker 1: it sometimes as take time to gel. So that would
Speaker 1: be my biggest if I had to make a prediction
Speaker 1: about the Browns is that they're going to be a
Speaker 1: much better team. But I would not be shocked if
Speaker 1: they go get out of the gate a little bit
Speaker 1: slower than people expect and then kind of hit their stride.
Speaker 1: Uh and the offensive line struggles would certainly if that happens,
Speaker 1: be a major reason why. Alright, greag, go ahead, all right,
Speaker 1: let's uh, let's talk about the Lions, just because I
Speaker 1: feel like we never do on this show. Uh. That there.
Speaker 1: It was hard to find much there that like a
Speaker 1: lot of takeaways from their mini camp, but they were
Speaker 1: one of the teams. The thing that caught my eye
Speaker 1: was that they were doing some three tight end sets
Speaker 1: and that they were really talking about Theoretic had a
Speaker 1: nice camp or whatever. It looked fairly good what you
Speaker 1: would expect, but his spot on the team is a
Speaker 1: little uncertain. They're playing with three tight ends, that's at
Speaker 1: a time. Sometimes they've got all these running backs C. J. Anderson,
Speaker 1: Theo Riddick's number three, Carrie on Johnson's number one. You've
Speaker 1: got a rookie two who's gonna be in the mix,
Speaker 1: and they are kind of looking at to me on
Speaker 1: offense a little bit like maybe the Patriots were a
Speaker 1: year ago, where they're gonna run and run the ball
Speaker 1: a ton, they're gonna want to throw out of those
Speaker 1: two three tight end sets to kind of keep teams
Speaker 1: off balance. And that's your new Detroit Lions. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: Dave Brockett of the Detroit Free Press noted that rookie
Speaker 1: tight end t J. Hawkinson on a in the end
Speaker 1: zone essentially got a pass from Stafford where he kind
Speaker 1: of casually just tried to one hand to catch or something.
Speaker 1: I don't casually is the right word, but Matt Patricia
Speaker 1: just blew up on him. So it's like they need
Speaker 1: him to be big. I think the other thing in
Speaker 1: Detroit Darius Slay Damon Harrison both away from the team
Speaker 1: and contract issues. So that's two key players. I like
Speaker 1: teams that uh now that this is mandatory work and
Speaker 1: they want new contracts and so that's an issue. But
Speaker 1: players are treating the voluntary part of organized team activities
Speaker 1: more voluntary than ever and it's less of a big deal,
Speaker 1: I think than it's ever been. Yeah, um, let's move on.
Speaker 1: If this podcast we're voluntary, would you show up in
Speaker 1: I would? It's kind of become a very important part
Speaker 1: of my job. And if I didn't show up for
Speaker 1: this offer mentioned pink slip, but probably come for me.
Speaker 1: So yes, I'm here every show just about with good reason,
Speaker 1: good answer. Uh, voluntary workouts. You brought up that and
Speaker 1: Levy on Bell is an example. Did not show up
Speaker 1: to any of the O t as ahead of this
Speaker 1: week's minicamph is in attendance this week or was an attendance.
Speaker 1: It's over now, but we'll not does not plan to
Speaker 1: attend the follow up O t A s voluntary before
Speaker 1: heading into the summer break um. But that's not really
Speaker 1: what I want to talk about. He did look good
Speaker 1: by the way he looks fast, But he's uh the
Speaker 1: writer for the Athletic that covers the Jets who does
Speaker 1: a very nice job. Greg's very good things names, so
Speaker 1: he'll remind me his first name is Connor Hughes. Connor
Speaker 1: Hughes does an excellent job for the Athletic. Said that
Speaker 1: Bell operates under the different speed that he's seen with
Speaker 1: other running backs on the Jets, and the Jets have
Speaker 1: not had bad running backs in recent years. They've had
Speaker 1: some decent guys. But anyway, the big problem with Levian
Speaker 1: Bell is the drama around him and with creating art. Um,
Speaker 1: it's good to have that to malt around you. Sometimes
Speaker 1: some of the best work of say a Dylan or
Speaker 1: Springsteen or whoever comes when there's stuff going on. Jacobs
Speaker 1: Jacob Delan of course talking about the wallflowers and yes, um,
Speaker 1: Levian Bell had more than five dred thousand dollars worth
Speaker 1: of jewelry, jewelry stolen from his home. And this is
Speaker 1: from the Associated Press. Mark it's not and that's that happens. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: athletes and actors and celebrities are targeted for homes. It's
Speaker 1: just a sad fact of life and today's society, much
Speaker 1: like terrorism and other things that you wish you weren't around.
Speaker 1: But it's just the way it is. But there is
Speaker 1: an interesting little twist to this story. While Levian Bell
Speaker 1: is preparing with the jets, what what was happening? How
Speaker 1: did the money or the jewelry exit? Well? Right, so
Speaker 1: they I mean, that's the story that came out, I
Speaker 1: believe you yesterday was that um, he was robbed by
Speaker 1: not his girlfriend but by his girl friends, girl friends
Speaker 1: while he's away. And what I like is that you
Speaker 1: think there might I don't know. I don't know what
Speaker 1: the actual category of girlfriend in this if we're talking
Speaker 1: about it's a serious relationship with two at the same time.
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on, but that you think
Speaker 1: there might be a little jealousy between them and maybe
Speaker 1: they wouldn't want to be around each other instead. While
Speaker 1: he's gone doing his job, he was at the gym.
Speaker 1: This love this they are working as like a duo
Speaker 1: crime team together to rob him of this jewelry. No,
Speaker 1: we haven't heard a lot, do you know that? Well
Speaker 1: they are, That's what the story suggests. I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: maybe is according to the associated who knows, maybe one
Speaker 1: took out the other and you don't even know where
Speaker 1: that other girl is. You know. The article is is
Speaker 1: short and there's more to come on, but it suggests
Speaker 1: that they they operated in unison to steal half more
Speaker 1: than half of the jewelry. It's been a while in
Speaker 1: terms of the culture. You almost have to go back
Speaker 1: to that Charlie Sheen arrow where he went crazy and
Speaker 1: had the tiger blood stuff going on when two girlfriends
Speaker 1: was in the public eye. So now it's back with
Speaker 1: lev and it just does show you the dangerous of it.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a lot of juggling and sometimes, um,
Speaker 1: you don't know when you're not there. The two ladies
Speaker 1: and the same thing. I don't want to be sexist, Erica.
Speaker 1: It could be the same way. You could have two boyfriends,
Speaker 1: or a woman could have two boyfriends or two girlfriends.
Speaker 1: Those when you're not there, it happened. They're talking. Have
Speaker 1: you seen John Tucker Must Die? Maybe they didn't know
Speaker 1: about each other and then they found out and they're like,
Speaker 1: let's get out to let's know. That feels like a logical,
Speaker 1: that sounds like a nice reboot Lady on Bell Must Die.
Speaker 1: It's funny because like gritty Ruby reboot. You read this
Speaker 1: story and you kind of feel at least I do
Speaker 1: you know you feel bad for Levy on Bell here
Speaker 1: you're not thinking of him why he's the victim in
Speaker 1: this situation. But this could easily be turned into like
Speaker 1: a script where it's like kind of a fun uh
Speaker 1: no romantic comedy with you know friends. It struck me
Speaker 1: as a delightful story, but if you really get behind it,
Speaker 1: it's not delightful at all. Circling back to how something
Speaker 1: you know tumult in your personal life could lead to
Speaker 1: great art. Of course, I'm referring to Levy on Bill's
Speaker 1: incredible burgeoning rap career, and since he's in New York Jet,
Speaker 1: I am all about on the rapper. Well, yeah, you
Speaker 1: you asked, why would I feel bad for America? Because
Speaker 1: if you know, when I lose my black panther pendant
Speaker 1: with black and white diamonds, it's painful. I don't work
Speaker 1: pretty hard, work pretty hard source of pride, But I
Speaker 1: think it's kind of mess up that. You know, maybe
Speaker 1: if they knew about each other, if these girlfriends knew
Speaker 1: about you, but I feel like they're you know, there's
Speaker 1: some big assumption you're making though, and it could have
Speaker 1: been girlfriends. When I first read it, I was like,
Speaker 1: what if you called girlfriends like his friends? That are
Speaker 1: girls that too? But it feels too ails to suggest
Speaker 1: something else though exactly it indicated that they were both
Speaker 1: staying at his and that you know, that's how you know. Okay,
Speaker 1: So if they knew about each other, then I don't
Speaker 1: feel as bad. But why are you keeping half a
Speaker 1: million dollars in jewelry in your in your money here?
Speaker 1: How how far five grand takes you. In addition to
Speaker 1: Greg's um matching black panther pendant with the black and
Speaker 1: white diamonds, there was a rolex two gold chains with
Speaker 1: diamonds because actually doesn't take you that far, you know.
Speaker 1: I thought it was like a mount like when you
Speaker 1: when you like kill a dragon and there's like a
Speaker 1: mountain of gold under him. That's what I pictured it
Speaker 1: to be. There was one other little Jets snugget and
Speaker 1: I know, Dan, you hate this, uh this stuff, but
Speaker 1: Matt Stipulskovsky um not saying that right at all, apologies
Speaker 1: to his entire family from NJ dot Com, had this
Speaker 1: little sentence that I liked. Yes, the Jets practices are
Speaker 1: intense as gaze and defensive coordinator Greg Williams battle for
Speaker 1: supremacy on a daily basis delicious. Yeah, well I love it. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: there are there are some reports that had a couple
Speaker 1: of hundred sepations and Greg Williams is sort of famous
Speaker 1: for like bringing the house and every blitz possible like
Speaker 1: O T A s in mini camps and so right
Speaker 1: now the defense is ahead, and people brought out like
Speaker 1: brought out some clips for the exact same thing was
Speaker 1: happening with the Browns a year ago at this at
Speaker 1: this point, like, come down, Greg Williams. Now, that's so
Speaker 1: everyone loves to beat up on Greg Williams, but everyone
Speaker 1: is so in love with the Browns. Now, Greg Williams
Speaker 1: is the man that brought that team to respectability. I
Speaker 1: don't hear this Freddie Kitchens, oh Baker figured it out
Speaker 1: and say that is a team and complete tatters on
Speaker 1: fire after they fire the GM and the coach, and
Speaker 1: it's Greg Williams who studies the ship and makes that
Speaker 1: one of the best teams in the a f C
Speaker 1: in the second half. I don't want to hear anything else.
Speaker 1: And I'm not going to kill you on that take.
Speaker 1: He did a much better job than the person employed
Speaker 1: before him. And I'll never Dan getting in here. And
Speaker 1: let me just say this also, I've never had Greg
Speaker 1: Williams on my favorite team before. I am enjoying the
Speaker 1: Greg Williams experience as a fan. It's just a little
Speaker 1: spicier than having some no name DC you know, and
Speaker 1: guys like Greg and get crazy about the worst thing
Speaker 1: will happen, and I'll throw in my little digs and
Speaker 1: mentioned that Donald through interceptions, I don't care. I want
Speaker 1: spiciness around my team. Success would be nice too, but
Speaker 1: spiciness number two. Dan's getting in as many. Greg Williams
Speaker 1: uh plaud it says he can this episode, Well what
Speaker 1: West is not here? Yeah, because we would be bellowing
Speaker 1: and I wouldn't be able to record. The very boring
Speaker 1: record will show that no one has spoken up for
Speaker 1: Greg Williams is totally fine record on this podcast. More
Speaker 1: than me he is. I always point out that he's fine.
Speaker 1: He gets bounced out with needless digs of the jets
Speaker 1: at all times, so it's kind of now just anyway
Speaker 1: it is up needless. Let's go down. No, we were
Speaker 1: going in this direction as Greg dan Mark, we're doing
Speaker 1: a lot of double dipping on other people's stuff. Well,
Speaker 1: that's works. Let's go down to Tampa Bay the Bucks
Speaker 1: who we almost never talked about either. Little guy by
Speaker 1: the name of Scotty Miller, wide receiver, catching a lot
Speaker 1: of buzz early on. You know, of course, Adam Humphries
Speaker 1: out the door. Jamis Winston said, six round picks. Scotty
Speaker 1: Miller has anything about him? Right? Is he? And I'm
Speaker 1: close to you? Is he a slot receiver that is
Speaker 1: a grinder. He is five ft nine in a hundred
Speaker 1: and seventy six pounds. You're not wrong. He absolutely fits
Speaker 1: that category to go to a smaller school he did.
Speaker 1: Was he either U, F A or um? He was
Speaker 1: a six round? He was late. Yes, so you be
Speaker 1: a white man. The profile you have built is correct
Speaker 1: if you if you want to, Yes, as far as
Speaker 1: I know. But Bruce arians also called him a John
Speaker 1: Brown type. So I didn't have a lot coming out
Speaker 1: of Bucks camp. There wasn't a ton to work with. Uh.
Speaker 1: Their young defensive backs are doing well apparently, but there
Speaker 1: was not a ton of information coming out of that camp.
Speaker 1: All right, very good, you're for Serian said, he's their
Speaker 1: Their secondary is fine. They solved it. H I wanted
Speaker 1: to go to Denver, Uh, not where Joe Flacco has
Speaker 1: wowed um onlookers by von According to Von Miller, throwing
Speaker 1: an eight yard pass across the field you know not
Speaker 1: you know, from one hash mark to the other. One
Speaker 1: kind of giving Broncos fans perhaps some some memories of
Speaker 1: his famous throw in the two thousand and twelve playoffs. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a throw that changed history. Really. Uh they lose that game. Otherwise,
Speaker 1: who knows, maybe Manning gets another title. Who who knows
Speaker 1: what happens if he doesn't hit that throw, But he's
Speaker 1: showing off his big arm. He's healthy, that's my big
Speaker 1: main takeaway. He's just he's healthy, he's moving well. There's
Speaker 1: no physical problems with Joe Flacco, and that's been pretty
Speaker 1: rare in an off seat off season for almost never
Speaker 1: ever happens in an offseason for him lately, So I
Speaker 1: think that's positive. And there's a lot of you know,
Speaker 1: talk about him, but one one comment from DeVante Bookers
Speaker 1: stuck out to me. Just everyone really liking his leadership
Speaker 1: and that he's getting all the first team reps. There's
Speaker 1: no competition there and book Are saying he's such a
Speaker 1: cool guy. He talks to everybody in the locker room.
Speaker 1: Previous quarterbacks didn't really do that much here. They just
Speaker 1: be on the field, get the job done, and we
Speaker 1: see each other walking through the halls or something, and
Speaker 1: they wouldn't even acknowledge us. It's like, whoa the Blanco's quarterback? Okay,
Speaker 1: but Booker has only been around a few years, so
Speaker 1: that's you know, that's case keen him, that's Paxton, that's
Speaker 1: Lynch doesn't surprise anybody. Yeah, I thought case would be
Speaker 1: a little more hands out, but that's just one man's comment.
Speaker 1: Since he's in his fourth season in the and uh
Speaker 1: and they went through the athletic had all these quotes
Speaker 1: just about how much everyone loves Flacco and he's and
Speaker 1: he's fired up, and the Drew lock experience supposedly, yeah,
Speaker 1: pretty up and down so far in practice he got
Speaker 1: knocked down competition. They're not that you would expect it,
Speaker 1: but you know that's Flacco's gonna get his chance. He's
Speaker 1: gonna get his legit chiance. Let's go over to Green Bay,
Speaker 1: where as we know, new brain trust there with the
Speaker 1: head coach and Aaron Rodgers, big year for him, and
Speaker 1: we've talked about it endlessly on the show. Well what
Speaker 1: about the fact that they didn't really add a lot
Speaker 1: of uh firepower and offense. I guess these young guys
Speaker 1: are gonna have to step up so at camp. Aaron Rodgers,
Speaker 1: who you'll remember that Tyler Donne expose um in which
Speaker 1: quote Rogers showed virtually zero trust, and his three rookie
Speaker 1: receivers jim My own More, Marques Valdez, Scantling and Equan
Speaker 1: st Brown. Uh and also said Donne reported that a
Speaker 1: source told him that Rogers quote didn't like uh Valdez scantling. Well,
Speaker 1: Rogers singing a different tune this week. At least he
Speaker 1: had this to say. I think Marquees mar Marquez had
Speaker 1: has had a fantastic spring and really stepped up as
Speaker 1: a guy who can be an every down player. And
Speaker 1: then I expect a big bounce back year from Jimmy
Speaker 1: going to Graham, He's healthy, he's feeling good. The offense
Speaker 1: I think fits him and his body type. But I'm
Speaker 1: not going to shy away from throwing the ball to Davante.
Speaker 1: He also said he wants to get the ball more
Speaker 1: to Davante Adams. Uh the lone star player and Adams
Speaker 1: had the second most targets in the NFL last so so.
Speaker 1: But I think the bigger takeaway from this is, yes,
Speaker 1: it is a reminder that he is going to need
Speaker 1: to develop a rapport with these young receivers or this
Speaker 1: Packer's offense isn't gonna go. So we'll see when Marquez
Speaker 1: Velde's Hanley. Can we not just call him m VS?
Speaker 1: I think that's a that rolls off the tongue it's
Speaker 1: easier for you to deal with this guy p f
Speaker 1: T guy Michael David Smith inside the industry. Every he
Speaker 1: just calls him MDS and he's a foot And then
Speaker 1: that wouldn't even trample on m VS, which to me
Speaker 1: is just a home run nickname if it's not already
Speaker 1: his name, although you can miss hear it and be like, wait,
Speaker 1: are you talking about Michael David Smith. Well, that's on
Speaker 1: the listener, that's that's the Marriers, not the person who
Speaker 1: said m VS. And I don't think they would be
Speaker 1: just talking about Michael David Smith most of the time. Uh. Well,
Speaker 1: the Giants, obviously, you know, they are committed to Eli
Speaker 1: Manning sitting in the quarterback position for the next three
Speaker 1: or four seasons, despite having taken Daniel Jones early, and
Speaker 1: people are asking sort of what happened. That's not true,
Speaker 1: by the way, listeners, they have not committed to that.
Speaker 1: But go on, well, they've talked about him potentially starting
Speaker 1: for the next two seasons and I think he's to it.
Speaker 1: Well that I disagree they they seem to have their
Speaker 1: head on backwards on this one. I have two notes
Speaker 1: from from Giants minicamp. One is that they talked about
Speaker 1: the fact that Daniel Jones and this is why I
Speaker 1: think he's gonna see the field quickly. I really do
Speaker 1: think so. Shermer has been talking him up, saying his
Speaker 1: head is swimming much less than most rookie quarterbacks and
Speaker 1: that he has shown, according to Matt Lombardo of The
Speaker 1: Star Ledger, a higher propensitive to push the ball deep
Speaker 1: with more accuracy, while Manning continues to do his annoying
Speaker 1: little checks downs. And what amid what seems I added annoying,
Speaker 1: I added annoying, But he did mention Matt Lombardo an
Speaker 1: erosion of arm strength, which is obvious to anyone that's
Speaker 1: watched The Giants of Late the second note, I would
Speaker 1: have um on Pat Shermer because we were all doing
Speaker 1: our research before the show, going around looking at these
Speaker 1: various beat writers and the reports. A picture of Patch Shermer.
Speaker 1: He is looking super bulky like big giant muscles and
Speaker 1: gigantic calves like Pat Schremer. Never struck me as a
Speaker 1: physical specimen. He's looking tight. In fact, I called him
Speaker 1: thick T H I C C and was told that's
Speaker 1: not the correct use of thick. Could be more kind
Speaker 1: of just like borderline, big boned, but he just seems
Speaker 1: like he's been cutting out. You saw the photo. Yeah,
Speaker 1: his his body mass index is definitely down. Not a
Speaker 1: younger man, not old, but not a younger man to teach.
Speaker 1: Just turned in April and courage have definition in his
Speaker 1: arms showing through the long sleeves. That speaks to him
Speaker 1: and let's put in the work. Daniel Jones getting a
Speaker 1: lot of pop too, for like running around. Everyone's excited
Speaker 1: like quarterback that run and that he's looked good and
Speaker 1: that he's looked good. But ultimately he's he's not going
Speaker 1: to be the most important rookie, at least in week one.
Speaker 1: And they've already moved two of their first round picks,
Speaker 1: the Dexter Lawrence and DeAndre Baker into their first into
Speaker 1: their starting lineup right off the bat. As that's gonna
Speaker 1: be a big part of their season. Al Right, one
Speaker 1: more time around, Greg, you gotta go sure, Let's go
Speaker 1: to uh New England where Jared Mayo first year of
Speaker 1: coaching is the defensive play color. I find that pretty interesting.
Speaker 1: That's a lot of it's a lot of faith in
Speaker 1: Drod Mayo and maybe that'll change when the season starts.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's like Belichick makes the game plans and Mayo
Speaker 1: calls the plays on on game day, but that is
Speaker 1: and I love Gerard Mayo's injuries kind of cut his
Speaker 1: career a little shorter than it could have been. But
Speaker 1: a great patriot and interesting to see. Also, Joe Tuney
Speaker 1: is their left tackle right now, who has played the
Speaker 1: last four years at guard because they don't have a
Speaker 1: healthy left tackle. Grayed out at six from Win was
Speaker 1: their first round pick a year ago. There's a hope
Speaker 1: that he'd be ready for Week one, but that seems
Speaker 1: to be greg at left tackle and Dante SCARNECKI will
Speaker 1: make him a positive PF talent. I mean, he got
Speaker 1: Night Solder paid, he got Trent Brown paid. And of
Speaker 1: course in New England, Uh, they celebrated last night. The
Speaker 1: ring said did that getting six rings and just seeing
Speaker 1: that there is something kind of crazy about seeing Bill
Speaker 1: Belichick there with eight Super Bowl rings because he brought
Speaker 1: his Giants ones in and just like I own, you know,
Speaker 1: he like owns like a fifth of the Super Bowl rings.
Speaker 1: And I've always the name of the boat too, that
Speaker 1: he has to keep repainting the boat. It's now named
Speaker 1: eight rings. Uh. Speaking of the Patriots, UM, don't just
Speaker 1: move past that. Tom Brady, what a great what a
Speaker 1: great playing and the rings are getting bigger and bigger,
Speaker 1: and hopefully there's nothing to disrespectful like they did to
Speaker 1: the Falcons the last time they want a title with
Speaker 1: the rubbing and the deficit they wiped out which was
Speaker 1: just class list and Arthur Blank, the Falcons owner, said so. Um.
Speaker 1: But the biggest story they have, like an image of
Speaker 1: Jared Goff missing that threat comes up. It just Jared
Speaker 1: Goff like shaking it during the anthem p going down,
Speaker 1: Greg Um. The biggest story around the Patriots, though, was
Speaker 1: the news this week that Brady's legal team sneakily tried
Speaker 1: to copyright uh Tom Terrific and make it their own,
Speaker 1: which is absolutely disgraceful knowing that Tom Siever and I'm
Speaker 1: not a Mets fan, but that is one of the
Speaker 1: most important figures in New York sports history. Three times
Speaker 1: Cy Young Award winner, a Hall of Famer, he was
Speaker 1: Tom Terrific. He was the star of the sixty nine Mets.
Speaker 1: Of course, Uh. Tom Brady tried to get his fingers
Speaker 1: all over that copyright. Uh, and then once it was
Speaker 1: figured out, it was time to figure out what to say.
Speaker 1: Here's what Tom said, It's it's unfortunate. I was actually
Speaker 1: trying to do something because I didn't like the nickname
Speaker 1: and I want to make sure no one used it
Speaker 1: because some people wanted to use it, so um, I
Speaker 1: was trying to keep people from using it, and then
Speaker 1: it got spun around to something different than what it was.
Speaker 1: So good lesson learned and try to do things a
Speaker 1: little different in the future. He's not buying that. He's
Speaker 1: so full of it, Like, what does he just spend
Speaker 1: all day copyrighting things he doesn't want to be called?
Speaker 1: Are you using that for his name on some like,
Speaker 1: you know, cheap cheap T shirts? He didn't want that? Oh,
Speaker 1: I mean everyone's like, oh, Tom Siever one of the
Speaker 1: greatest pictures ever. Does he feel bad? Uh for stealing
Speaker 1: that nickname from the animated series that was presented as
Speaker 1: part of Captain Kangaroo fifty seven to Tom terrific, there
Speaker 1: you go, Here's but oh yeah, sorry, sever Or Siva writes,
Speaker 1: here's the sun. By the way of Tom Brady trying
Speaker 1: to back away from the story, it sounds like, hold
Speaker 1: on here, hold on here, before we get too precious
Speaker 1: of this. What did Tom Sever ever trademark this or
Speaker 1: patent it? It's not Sometimes it's not about money. It's
Speaker 1: what It's an iconic nickname um in baseball history, and Brady,
Speaker 1: because he didn't like it, wanted to make it his
Speaker 1: and then ostensibly profit off at somehow if anyone else
Speaker 1: try to use it. I'm sure Tom Sever's people were
Speaker 1: on firing out it, right. I mean, there's a nine
Speaker 1: minute set stop defending the man, nine minute segment on
Speaker 1: YouTube of Boomer A Siasin ranting about this that Tom
Speaker 1: Brady is not Tom Tray. I suggest everyone never watched that.
Speaker 1: What other little well I thought heartwarming nugget about the
Speaker 1: ring hand out? Josh Gordon finally gets a Super Bowl ring? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that should give it in like, why are you?
Speaker 1: Why are you? I just think when I when I
Speaker 1: think that someone in absolutely you know, should be running
Speaker 1: around town with a Super Bowl ring. He's been through
Speaker 1: a lot and you know absolutely was crucial in getting
Speaker 1: that by that they ended up getting. He called it heartwarming. Um.
Speaker 1: My last note is on the act of coaches giving
Speaker 1: canceling the last practice and what they do at the time,
Speaker 1: so it's a team building exercise. The Jets, for instance,
Speaker 1: Adam Gays canceled practice and went to Top Golf. That's
Speaker 1: a good choice. I love top golf. It's a fun activity.
Speaker 1: The Dolphins a little basic. They canceled practice and they
Speaker 1: go bowling. Well, and their new head coach went and
Speaker 1: got a Super Bowl ring too that night. Yeah, and um,
Speaker 1: I don't care. I don't care who got a ring.
Speaker 1: I don't care about the Patriots and their rings or
Speaker 1: anything else. It doesn't matter to me. Finally, but the
Speaker 1: one I really like. Nice job by Vick Faggio, who
Speaker 1: did an excellent job with the Broncos. He did a
Speaker 1: full field day, he canceled practice and he gave the
Speaker 1: guys on the Broncos got to do this home run derby,
Speaker 1: remote control car race, basket, a ball shootout, water balloon toss,
Speaker 1: shaved the Italian ice station. That's great. Golf chipping contest,
Speaker 1: dunk tank, and there was a rumor. I don't know
Speaker 1: if it sounds overly complex, John Elway will be participating
Speaker 1: in the dunk take dunk tank. That is great. That's
Speaker 1: how you do it. Everybody follow follow. Those are all
Speaker 1: things you hate by the way, mark every Italian I
Speaker 1: station sounds appealing to me. Uh, close it out. Mark
Speaker 1: One little other Patriots nugget from the Mike Lombardi podcast,
Speaker 1: there was this point made if he has done, If
Speaker 1: Robed Gronkowski is actually done, why is he going to
Speaker 1: TB twelve to work out every day? Why isn't he
Speaker 1: Why isn't he Miami working out? Why is he not
Speaker 1: losing weight and getting all thin? Alah, Joe Thomas, He
Speaker 1: is staying in top physical condition, not simply, you know,
Speaker 1: fading into some sort of Hollywood Hills scenario where he's
Speaker 1: out till three in the morning with a bunch of minkstress.
Speaker 1: Is No, he is working out like a crazy man.
Speaker 1: It just suggests to me that the door is not
Speaker 1: closed on his return. Well, I agree with you. I
Speaker 1: think I think he's coming back. But even if he
Speaker 1: wasn't coming back, I feel like Gronk, And I don't
Speaker 1: want to, you know, paint the guy in a simplistic light,
Speaker 1: but I feel like that Gronk. That's what Rob Gronkowski. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's gonna He pumps down in Miami for a lot
Speaker 1: of the off season. He hangs with hot chicks, on
Speaker 1: boats and he hangs with his brothers. Like I feel
Speaker 1: like working out is always going to be a big
Speaker 1: part of it. I I don't doubt that, but I
Speaker 1: just think the level of intensity, uh suggests Um. Not
Speaker 1: that I've observed these workouts with the naked eye, but
Speaker 1: you know, just that he's he's still plugged in. You
Speaker 1: could at least take a couple of months after you
Speaker 1: retire and kind of float away and do whatever you want.
Speaker 1: The opposite is happening. Anybody that's will be surprised if
Speaker 1: he comes back just you know, pull together. It wouldn't
Speaker 1: be a shock if he comes back. I mean there
Speaker 1: are a raging need for him on the roster, also huge,
Speaker 1: and it got bigger this week. All right, that's it.
Speaker 1: As we teased on Wednesday, throw out some iTunes reviews,
Speaker 1: now Apple podcast reviews. I guess we shouldn't call it whatever. Um,
Speaker 1: let's see, let's see, let's go through it. Uh, five stars.
Speaker 1: I'm reading these by the way as I see them,
Speaker 1: so don't read into what I'm choosing. Um, five stars,
Speaker 1: but it will take one star off if Mark keeps
Speaker 1: mispronouncing se Quan. It's sae quon, not so Quan. I'm
Speaker 1: not even a Giants fan, but it bothers the hell
Speaker 1: out of me every time. Wow in Hot out of
Speaker 1: the Gate. So are you allowed to edit your your
Speaker 1: star rating? Maybe you are? Maybe this one from Zach
Speaker 1: more entertaining than Move the Sticks, but not as intelligent.
Speaker 1: Sorry well, I mean, you know, none of the four
Speaker 1: of us have been touted as future NFL GM at
Speaker 1: this point. I think that's fair. If you want to
Speaker 1: totally like boring but intelligent podcast, that's that's an option.
Speaker 1: He loves the show in the fun atmosphere. They have
Speaker 1: some good things to say, and I really appreciate that
Speaker 1: they don't sound They don't seem professional at all, so
Speaker 1: it's very attainable knowledge. I mean the wording here. I
Speaker 1: also like that they talk about their own fandom blah
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah whatever is that sounds like Evan
Speaker 1: Silva to me. Thank you for the five stars. Um oh,
Speaker 1: this is nice Dan's great hair five stars. As a
Speaker 1: forty five year old bald man, I really look up
Speaker 1: to the hair game that Dan has. Wait, so you're
Speaker 1: just sifting through and picking the ones to us, kind
Speaker 1: of like Brian R. Locker R Locker was great when
Speaker 1: he came on our Super Bowl shows. Um, but it
Speaker 1: is weird that he grew the hair back. That's all.
Speaker 1: That's all saying that. Uh, let's see. You want me
Speaker 1: to find something that presents you in a pause of light, Mark,
Speaker 1: I'll do it. I mean, unless it's gonna take it long.
Speaker 1: I mean, right now, we've got three thousand, six hundred ratings.
Speaker 1: That's just like a such a small fraction of the
Speaker 1: the audience. So if you've made it this far, it's
Speaker 1: Friday in the off season. We're fifty minutes in here,
Speaker 1: we're reading iTunes. You are our people. You are the
Speaker 1: people that should listen and just help us out and
Speaker 1: throw in that five stars and and put a comment.
Speaker 1: And at this point, because that number we're gonna jack,
Speaker 1: we need to jack it up. I want to see
Speaker 1: it at four when I come back. Asher Bonner, Paul says,
Speaker 1: could be better. Five stars. Bring Clayborne on full time.
Speaker 1: Liz Claiborne. I don't know who's a friend. Maybe Patrick
Speaker 1: uh nice? At least at least it was a compliment.
Speaker 1: Five stars, and you know they like Claybourne. That's something. Oh,
Speaker 1: this one's good. Mark from overlord. Talking about animal deaths
Speaker 1: is wrong. One star used to love the POB but
Speaker 1: the latest Draft for You episode, they spent over five
Speaker 1: minutes talking about murdering cats in Australia and how it's okay.
Speaker 1: Then they all chimed in with other atrocious stories of
Speaker 1: mass animal killings. I think I was at the show,
Speaker 1: but U this is a football podcast where this type
Speaker 1: of banter shouldn't be allowed. Not that they'll care, but
Speaker 1: they just lost a loyal listener. Wow that I don't
Speaker 1: like spending twenty minutes on cat deaths, but I don't
Speaker 1: doubt that it occurred. Spent spency b on ma gave
Speaker 1: a perfect example of what you should do with your
Speaker 1: iTunes review. Five stars and then just as show grade
Speaker 1: B minus. Great job. Why I like the show Five
Speaker 1: stars by bp W co workers use NFL topics as
Speaker 1: cover for sixty minutes of New York constantly ball busting.
Speaker 1: I like, uh, I'm just jumping in there as I'm
Speaker 1: seeing ones that are amusing me. One star pointless. Great.
Speaker 1: If they want to hear people complain about movies they
Speaker 1: watched years ago, that's fair, that's a totally fair. I
Speaker 1: hated the show when we were talking about Game of
Speaker 1: Thrones every week or every show for a while. There.
Speaker 1: It happens sometimes. Uh like it a lot. Brancas been
Speaker 1: listening since two thousand fifteen. There's a strong dad core
Speaker 1: undercurrent which permeates the show dad Core Erica, you are
Speaker 1: a youth, You're a millennial, petite millennial. Tell me what
Speaker 1: dad core means. I don't even know. I would say
Speaker 1: dad core like you could. You guys definitely have like
Speaker 1: the dad jokes. You know you guys are just you
Speaker 1: guys are dad. I think it's just a relatable type.
Speaker 1: I like this one one out of one star out
Speaker 1: of five headline by Booga Holic in its only comment
Speaker 1: is pretty boring. How about Great Football Talk five stars
Speaker 1: by Bijavila turning into one of my favorite pods. Love
Speaker 1: the different opinions and that they not all agree in
Speaker 1: to the same thing and why I'm pointing this one out.
Speaker 1: Screg gets surprisingly very funny. Hold on this surprising is
Speaker 1: a little bit of a dig, but I'll still take you.
Speaker 1: I've had a five stars. Must listen from Will Jones
Speaker 1: best podcast hands down more Mark Dan and West are
Speaker 1: hilarious while also bringing a ton of Football Knowledge. Greg
Speaker 1: is also on the show. Um, nice job guys, five stars,
Speaker 1: one of my favorites. Love the sincerity of w G
Speaker 1: plus M, which plays well off the bluster of D
Speaker 1: like we don't have long names to spell out, just
Speaker 1: spell them out all the wreck and there's no bluster here.
Speaker 1: It's all substantial. All the recognition you guys are getting
Speaker 1: is very well deserved. M hm, alright, anybody good? I
Speaker 1: think we're good. I'm gonna read through these thoroughly though
Speaker 1: this evening. How about this one from Tyler Dunking mark
Speaker 1: five stars and comments Sessler. There you go, Mike, you
Speaker 1: got it right to feel much better heading into the weekend.
Speaker 1: Now we will be back next week. Guess so a
Speaker 1: bunch more teams are doing their mandatory minicamps. It will
Speaker 1: be our last week of three shows. Um for a
Speaker 1: little bit, for a for a minute, as the kid say,
Speaker 1: which actually means a little bit longer, probably about what
Speaker 1: six weeks. Probably for about six weeks. We'll dial it
Speaker 1: back until the NFL reconvenes for but we'll still be here.
Speaker 1: We're still gonna do two shows a week throughout June
Speaker 1: uh into much of July, and then switching back to
Speaker 1: three shows once training camp kicks off. So we're not
Speaker 1: going anywhere. We don't go anywhere. That's how we built
Speaker 1: this bastard. All right, Um, Ricky, have a nice weekend.
Speaker 1: You're in West Hollywood. It's Pride weekend. That place is
Speaker 1: going to be going on. Um. I would like to
Speaker 1: be a part of the festivities. I don't know if
Speaker 1: because of the Dad I won't be invited, but if
Speaker 1: if you're doing anything fun, maybe shoot at test. I
Speaker 1: mean Mark was there last year. West and La Kisha
Speaker 1: were with me, Colleen, we we partied it up last year.
Speaker 1: Was I would say that your absence was suspicious last
Speaker 1: year down, Yes, I think you should read into it
Speaker 1: however you'd like, because but I'd like to be involved
Speaker 1: with it this year. Yes, Okay, I'll send you the details.
Speaker 1: I'll let you know where to meet up. Just wait,
Speaker 1: that sounds like a trap. All right. That's it This
Speaker 1: Dan hands the signing off for Quiet Storm and the
Speaker 1: old Boss Ricky Hollywood Behind the Glass. West will be
Speaker 1: back next week. So until then, until Monday m HM.