1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Anny and Samantha and welcome to Stephane 2 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 1: Never told your protection of iHeart Radio, and welcome to 3 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 1: another edition of advocates and activists around the world. That's 4 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: a that's on your title, okay, um And we want 5 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 1: to celebrate the amazing people who are doing and have 6 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:38,199 Speaker 1: been doing such amazing work for all of us in 7 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 1: the entire world and say thank you and give you 8 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 1: flowers as per usual. But before we start, Adie, I 9 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: have a question for you. It's not hard, it is hard. 10 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 1: Here we go. How do you feel about team sports 11 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: and were you actively a part of them? M hmm. 12 00:00:56,280 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 1: This is a good question. I think the answer there 13 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: is I liked playing in them. I'm very competitive, but 14 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 1: at the same time, I'm also very insecure. Um So, 15 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: I always felt like I was the weakest link on 16 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: the team, like I was the worst player. And I 17 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: mean for a while I played goalie in soccer and 18 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: the stress was way too much. Samantha. It was so much, 19 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 1: except that, like the whole thing, you know, it's hard 20 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: not to even though it's a team sport, it's hard 21 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 1: not to be like if I fail, then it's all 22 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: my fault. Um So, I did enjoy it. I think 23 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 1: there was a lot of dynamics that we're stressful, and 24 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 1: I think that I was insecure, so that kind of 25 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: took me out of it. But overall I liked it. 26 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: I am not really athletic, but I did really want 27 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: to be a part of the sports because a lot 28 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: of people bonded so hardcore. When it came to team sports, 29 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: I it was not so great at it. I did 30 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: do cheerleading, and yes that's a sport. I think I've 31 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: said that before and I will continue to say it forever. 32 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: Um and enjoyed that, but it did feel a little 33 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 1: off like they were definitely moments of like I was 34 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: out of place and it felt awkward. Definitely being the 35 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: only one of two Asian people in the whole school 36 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: was on as well. But you know, I really wanted 37 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: to be a part of it, and I think if 38 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: I had better experiences and it wasn't more athletic, maybe 39 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: I would have enjoyed it more. But you know, who knows? 40 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: And why are we talking about that today? Why am 41 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:36,519 Speaker 1: I asking these questions? Well, because I wanted to talk 42 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 1: about an advocate who really went through the battlegrounds when 43 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 1: it came to sports and came out and realizing it's 44 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: an amazing thing to be able to be in sports 45 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: and working through some of your trauma that way through athleticism, 46 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 1: but also combating the many, many things that oftentimes can traumatized, 47 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:02,519 Speaker 1: especially queer people of color when they're in these types 48 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 1: of organizations. And yeah, we're we're celebrating the works of 49 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 1: Amazon Laity who was born in Saigon and has become 50 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: an activist through partially due to her past in our 51 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: traumatic childhood UM and has become a big advocate for 52 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 1: those in the queer community in sports. So let's talk 53 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: about her. You're ready. Abandoned at an orphanage in Saigon, 54 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: Late was eventually adopted by a couple in Australia, and 55 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: again we've talked about this before. Unlike the fairy tales 56 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: that are so often fed to the adoptees myself included, 57 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: Lady struggled with being different throughout her childhood. She talks 58 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: a lot about her experience as being one of the 59 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: only few people of color in her community UM and 60 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: in her school. And when Lady talks about her childhood, 61 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: she talks a lot about the bullying and racism she 62 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: had to endure not only for being a trans racial adoptee, 63 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: but also as identifying as queer. And I don't think 64 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: she came out until much later, but she knew she 65 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: was different as to how she would put it, and 66 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: she has talked about her experience as being the only 67 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: Asian child in sports and in her community, and she 68 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: had to deal with the experiences of being racially targeted 69 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: for not being white and then just feeling as she 70 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: was all alone in this world of sports and just 71 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: in general. She says in a recent outsport dot Com 72 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: interview quote, I really believe I was the only Asian 73 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 1: lgbt Q child in the world, and that created a 74 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 1: tremendous amount of sadness. We just don't get to see 75 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 1: ourselves in media as often as we like, and it's 76 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: so difficult to come out. And it's not surprising as 77 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: the Asian community make a very small percentage of leading 78 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:42,280 Speaker 1: roles in media, which we've talked about before, and in 79 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 1: fact it was only around one percent. And through her isolation, 80 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: later started her journey into sports through bodybuilding and weightlifting 81 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:55,279 Speaker 1: at the age of six. She would continue on later 82 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: becoming a competitive natural bodybuilder and her teens and qualifying 83 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 1: as a coach soon after her But within her journey, 84 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: the tolls of her past and current trauma weighed her 85 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: down heavily. She became unhoused as a young adult and 86 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 1: struggled both mentally and physically. She has talked about her 87 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 1: past struggles and how she had to come to terms 88 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 1: with who she was and understanding and loving herself during 89 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: the hardest times, even when she had thoughts of suicide. 90 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: She battled through her past trauma to where she is today, 91 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: including her sexual identity. Right so Late refers to her 92 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: sexuality as quote rainbow, which is a Vietnamese term for 93 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 1: a queer, and in her interview with Proudly Dot blog, 94 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 1: a blog that shares quote extraordinary stories from everyday people 95 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: within the LGBTQ plus community, she explains, in terms of 96 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: my label, it's actually something the Vietnamese community used, and 97 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 1: I feel it's much more encompassing now. The spectrum of 98 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 1: sexuality and gender identity is so vast and so much 99 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 1: broader than the lgbt Q plus worldwide, So rainbow is 100 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: an uplifting, easier way for me to define because everybody 101 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: loves rainbows. After the thunderstorm. I thought that was really 102 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: a sweet sentiment. Um, she's right, She's right, because I 103 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: had a rainbow in my backyard the other day. It 104 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: was really nice. It was really nice. And as she 105 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: navigated through a search for her identity and self, she 106 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: pursued her continued interest in sports, but it was a 107 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: difficult journey for her. She had to go through a 108 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: path of discrimination and isolation as she pushed through in 109 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 1: her passion for bodybuilding and other sportes. She talked about 110 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 1: the issues of sexism, misogyny, and homophobia within the bodybuilding industry, 111 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: and it wasn't until she left that industry that she 112 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,359 Speaker 1: came out and she started to work to advocate for 113 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: others because she felt so alone when she did right, 114 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 1: and because she credits sport with helping her through the 115 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 1: darkest time. She understood the importance of pushing through and 116 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: persevering partially due to her experience in sports, and wanted 117 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: to help others to be able to do the same. 118 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:51,919 Speaker 1: But with that, she understood what it was like to 119 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: feel isolated, even within a team, and wanted to become 120 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: an advocate for others so they didn't have to endure 121 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 1: the hardships she did. In seventeen, she launched an LGBTQ 122 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: plus sports and education program in Vietnam in order to 123 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 1: bring lgbt Q plus youth and kids who were living 124 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: with HIV into sports. She explained that the aim of 125 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: the program was quote to empower and inspire its participants 126 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: through sports and education, to create future leaders and mentors, 127 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: transform lives, and to help build stronger communities within these 128 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: marginalized groups and for society as a whole. And in 129 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: one she launched the Amazon Late Foundation, which is a 130 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: program advocating for quote LGBTQ youth experiencing homelessness, their leadership 131 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: and development, using sports as a platform for change. She 132 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: says about the organization having a foundation is really just 133 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: an extension of the work I've been doing as an advocate. 134 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:00,040 Speaker 1: As an individual. I have piloted some programs within in 135 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: Vietnam which we just talked about, which will become my 136 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: flagship program that will launch in one and it's a 137 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: program I wanted when I was a kid that involved leadership, mentorship, sports, businesses, 138 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: and education where I can meet business leaders, community leaders, 139 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: and sports leaders, and where I can see myself celebrated 140 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: within the community, but also as a fast track career path. 141 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: The foundation wants to particularly help LGBTQ plus people suffering 142 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: with homelessness because now we have had this pandemic for 143 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: the last few months, and there are so many vulnerable 144 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: LGBTQ plus communities and youth who are experiencing homelessness and 145 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: don't necessarily receive the support they need. And that's what 146 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: I'll be championing through my foundation as well as my 147 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:42,959 Speaker 1: sports advocacy work. And she has been very busy with 148 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: her advocacy. In twenty twelve, she was the Ambassador for 149 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 1: Vietnam Relief Services in first Asian ambassador to athlete ally 150 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: named one of the seven Asian LGBTQ activists accelerating equality 151 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: globally by glad uh came the first Asian Sports Champion 152 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: Ambassador for Stone while UK and twenty nineteen was named 153 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 1: Global Change Maker and so many more. On top of that, 154 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: how many more? Yes, she was also given an honorary 155 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: state citizenship by friend of the Show, Georgia's state representative, 156 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: part Cannon. Yes, and if you go to our site 157 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 1: Amazon Ltte dot com, they have a video of part 158 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 1: Canon making this announcement. I was like, Hey, that's our friend. 159 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 1: That's awesome. I love it. I love it, I love it. 160 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: I love it. Uh. And as a part of her 161 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: Proudly interview, Latigue gives this advice to the younger generation 162 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 1: of LGBTQ plus athletes. Stand in your truth and that 163 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: you're enough and you have always been enough. It is 164 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: so important to bring your whole self to work and 165 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 1: to be your authentic self, because when you high bits 166 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 1: of yourself that are the most important, it becomes such 167 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: heavy baggage and a heavy burden you have to carry 168 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 1: around and have to lie to so many people remember 169 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: those lies, and it becomes so difficult to be yourself 170 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 1: in sports and have to lie to so many people 171 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:01,599 Speaker 1: who remember those eyes. And it becomes so difficult to 172 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:04,439 Speaker 1: be yourself in sports. And I'm far more successful now 173 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 1: being me and showing up as me than showing up 174 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: as parts of me and hiding these parts of me 175 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: that made me whole. Yeah. I love that sentiment and 176 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 1: exactly she talked about her journey was hard, but she 177 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: has come to this point and has really pushed in 178 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: understanding um that sports can be a great significant part 179 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: of a teenager's life and normalizing a teenager's life. But 180 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: if you have to hide a part of yourself, it 181 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,319 Speaker 1: becomes detrimental. And she talks about that trauma and how 182 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: it's affected her until she was able to be her 183 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: true self. And look what she's doing now is amazing. 184 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:41,559 Speaker 1: She's all over the world advocating. She's a speaker, she's 185 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 1: an advocate, she's ambassador. Like it's amazing. Yeah. Absolutely, I 186 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: think this is definitely an area where sports and team 187 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: sports can be so healthy as long as we make 188 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: them a space to be healthy and we make sure 189 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: that they are space for you to be your whole, 190 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:01,439 Speaker 1: authentic self and to be healthy. And if you feel 191 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: like you can't be, then it's hurting the team and 192 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: it's hurting you. So this is yeah, I love this. 193 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: I love this. While as always, if you have someone 194 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: we should shout out in this segment or something like 195 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: a organization or something, then please let us know. You 196 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:20,599 Speaker 1: can email us at Stephanie you Mom Stuff at I 197 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: hurt mea dot com. You can find us on Twitter 198 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: at moms podcast or on Instagram at staffhol I never 199 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: told you. Thanks. 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