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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: Home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the Drive. I'm Dale Lilly here with Matt Williamson,

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Speaker 1: and of course we're joined also by shirt. Was Tom

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Speaker 1: Offerman brought back a special guest star. I can't believe

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Speaker 1: it brought me back for the second shirt. Didn't think

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Speaker 1: I get the two. These days, you're gonna be out

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Speaker 1: here without a shirt. It's a little rainy, it's a

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Speaker 1: little cold. Maybe there is a little rainy. It's getting

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Speaker 1: more and more rains, getting heavier and heavier. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: the Steelers starting their practice here today. Uh, and they've

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Speaker 1: moved over to the turf field here that is adjacent

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Speaker 1: to our lovely sight here on the same Fencent softball field.

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Speaker 1: So we can kind of see through the snow fence

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Speaker 1: here of the softball field. We kind of can't, but okay, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: um but yeah, rain falling here pretty pretty steadily, not

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Speaker 1: a heavy heavy rain, but but certainly a steady rain.

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Speaker 1: And then so the Steelers moving over there too, Uh, well,

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Speaker 1: get some practicing. I don't know. I mean, there's all

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Speaker 1: the grass fields here, and that's where they usually want

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Speaker 1: to use um, but there is a field turf field

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Speaker 1: for these conditions that they don't beat up as much

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Speaker 1: in the bad weather. So that's why they move over.

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Speaker 1: They don't there isn't an indoor here. But you know,

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Speaker 1: not only that, but you don't want guys slipping and

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Speaker 1: slide around. I mean there's gonna be some of that

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Speaker 1: on the turf field already. But you know what, guys

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Speaker 1: planning and landing on their butts and and these grass

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Speaker 1: fields take a beating overall they do. Yeah, especially when

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Speaker 1: this rain starts hitting. And you know, I was gonna

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Speaker 1: kick out of watching the grounds coop grounds crew and

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Speaker 1: how much work they do to keep them even in

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Speaker 1: good reasonable shape. Yeah, it's tough. And and you know

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Speaker 1: by the end of by the end of camp, I

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Speaker 1: mean they've they've got they've got to work cut out

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Speaker 1: for them. They get this thing ready again for for St.

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Speaker 1: Vincent's football team. They come over and right right, a

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Speaker 1: lot of big men running around out there. There's ninety

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Speaker 1: of them, and so that you know, they college you

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Speaker 1: guys do a lot of damage. So this is kind

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Speaker 1: of an interesting predicament for us. I mean, we're not

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Speaker 1: gonna be able to comment a whole heck of a

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Speaker 1: lot on what we see unfortunately, but uh, such as life,

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Speaker 1: so we'll fight through it. It kind of puts a damper,

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Speaker 1: no pun intended, but very much intended on everything because

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Speaker 1: you know, the people sitting at Chuck and Ole Field,

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Speaker 1: they're super far away from the players now, and the

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Speaker 1: players are gonna be right up next to you. So,

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Speaker 1: I mean, as much as it just sucks that you're

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Speaker 1: out in the rain, it's a little extrad it sucked

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Speaker 1: to it because you're gonna move so far away from

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Speaker 1: all the access that they usually have. I mean there's

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Speaker 1: a big contingency here, you know, to the right of

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Speaker 1: the fields on these these you know, portable fences or

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Speaker 1: temporary fences, but you can only go to yeah, and

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Speaker 1: then then there's an unbrell in front of you, you know.

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Speaker 1: So not the best viewing day for the Steelers, unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: certainly not. And you know, if something happens here and

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Speaker 1: we happen to go off the air, that means there's

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Speaker 1: probably lightening. There was. At least wolf is not here

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Speaker 1: with us, because for people who don't know, the wolf

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Speaker 1: Lee family are like they're very conductive, like lightning. Rod.

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Speaker 1: I think Wolf has had three family members struck by lightning.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know three people who have been struck

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Speaker 1: by lightning. He has three family members who have been

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Speaker 1: struck by light Yeah, can't be a coincidence. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I used to think maybe they're just larger human beings

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Speaker 1: than the rest of us, that they they take up

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Speaker 1: more space on the earth, so there's a better chance

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Speaker 1: they get hit. But I wonder if there's something like

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Speaker 1: the Empire State Building were exactly right, if we're all

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Speaker 1: sitting next to each other, it would hit him over

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Speaker 1: us power cords that are out in the No, we're

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Speaker 1: all covered up. We're good. No one's gonna shock you

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Speaker 1: all right. I just don't want to know you're sitting

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Speaker 1: here and you know, be like a tapper. Yeah, actually

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Speaker 1: would be bad. Coach Bradley and I were looking at

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Speaker 1: the the weather just right before we went on the air,

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Speaker 1: and there's flash blood warnings, but it's only for about

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Speaker 1: the first day heat acclamation. It was nice and breezy

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Speaker 1: today and now it's just soaking wet and everybody's miserable.

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Speaker 1: Or do you does he like this a little bit?

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Speaker 1: This is challenging, Yeah, because any kind of lightning though,

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Speaker 1: you can't practice. But doing this in the rain, he

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Speaker 1: doesn't mind because they got to play games in the rain.

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Speaker 1: They'll they'll play him whether like that's not you know,

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Speaker 1: so you get a different look at some guys. Hey

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Speaker 1: does that receiver catch the ball as well? In the rain.

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Speaker 1: It's it's like the Senior Bowl that Wednesday of the

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Speaker 1: Senior Ball. I mean it was raining way harder than

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Speaker 1: this and they were still practicing, and people make light

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Speaker 1: of it, and you know, I think it's an issue,

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Speaker 1: But I want to Kenny pickt throw the ball in

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Speaker 1: the rain with his little hands. You know see the

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Speaker 1: always to the hands with the receivers to catch the

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Speaker 1: ball well in the rain, you know all that kind

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Speaker 1: of stuff. I mean, they're not going to cancel Bengal

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Speaker 1: Steelers if it's this exact play in it, especially from

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Speaker 1: this area. Wesley Older just came back. He is soaking Wetah,

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Speaker 1: he is wet. He's not having fun. But yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: I said, we've we've had some weather like this out

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Speaker 1: they have the turf field there that the guys can

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Speaker 1: practice on. But to further your answer, your point to Tom,

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Speaker 1: these aren't these practices matter, but not as much as

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Speaker 1: the ones that starts Saturday. Right, this is an extension

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Speaker 1: of of minicamp here the acclamation process. I mean, yesterday

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Speaker 1: that was the case. Uh, that's part of the heat

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Speaker 1: acclamation period is uh now, is that they could only

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Speaker 1: practice ninety minutes that first day the heat acclamation period

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Speaker 1: when it really nailed it there. Every team plays by

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Speaker 1: best and that from and be the best part of that.

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Speaker 1: There's a story with that. So we all drive in

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Speaker 1: to go cover practice in there. They take busses in,

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Speaker 1: they took school buses in back into the city, get

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Speaker 1: to the indoor facility. They start practice and the storm

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Speaker 1: was so heavy the lights went out. Everybody, everybody back

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Speaker 1: in the bus. Let's go. This was not meant to be. Yeah. So,

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Speaker 1: it here. Would be great if there was some sort

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Speaker 1: got they've they've got They've also gone over to Latrope

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Speaker 1: but in door, no right, and as long as there's

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Speaker 1: gonna lightning, he's gonna practice he's gonna play. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: because that's just what you do. Yeah, and so, but

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Speaker 1: you're not in the practice. Should we started pretty soon? Right? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're kind of going through the doesn't like they're stretching

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Speaker 1: y pre pre stretched stuff. That's always gonna be fun. Like, okay,

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Speaker 1: field and stretch out, stretch out. It's just in case

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Speaker 1: you weren't wet enough. But it's not keeping the fans away, No,

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Speaker 1: it's not. Yeah, that's for sure. And um, I see

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Speaker 1: It was a miserable miserable scenes to your point, even

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Speaker 1: the rain, it's packed here. I mean, you can't keep

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Speaker 1: people away from the Steelers training camp. But like that's

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Speaker 1: not you were saying this yesterday too. It's not the

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Speaker 1: case around the NFL, like there's not that many fans

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Speaker 1: that come out. There's not as much access to fans

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Speaker 1: and just seeing the picture on Twitter, today of that

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Speaker 1: It's maybe you guys remember this better than I do.

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Speaker 1: But I think when Washington's owner took over, he opened

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Speaker 1: now it would It's technically illegal for another team to

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Speaker 1: be out here filming this, however, because the Steelers, because

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Speaker 1: you're not supposed to, but it happens. But it's illegal

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Speaker 1: because the Steelers aren't charging the fans to come in.

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Speaker 1: If you charge fans to come in, then then the

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Speaker 1: team can come out and film it because it's kind

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Speaker 1: of like a game. It's like a game. I mean,

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Speaker 1: anyone stands it's any game in the league can film

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Speaker 1: and film. They don't have that kind of jurisdiction, right, okay,

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Speaker 1: but they're but for the teams, the other teams, it's

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Speaker 1: illegal to do so. So if you catch somebody from

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Speaker 1: another team out here shooting, you know, filming a practice

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Speaker 1: why you're not supposed to film outterers, they can keep

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Speaker 1: white and blue hoodie over there. It was cut off

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Speaker 1: with there was filming some stuff. Maybe I'll hand him down,

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Speaker 1: Hue sound Patriots could be Buffalo. Both teams on the

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Speaker 1: schedule this year. I don't know, putt you cut off

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Speaker 1: the raining immensely hard? Yeah, really, yeah, it's not raining

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Speaker 1: very hard. So our apologies in advance if we happen

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Speaker 1: to lose you. Yeah, I see, they're not going to

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Speaker 1: pre comes. Some of their our intrepid reporters also coming

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Speaker 1: over here, markably, no one, no umbrella, doesn't need the umbrella.

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Speaker 1: Get rid of that. That's aggressive the Achilles. That's an aggressive.

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Speaker 1: Look they're coming, that's true. That's a very big hazard

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Speaker 1: for him there right right. Where's the best part about

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Speaker 1: that as well? So we're not in the dorms this

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Speaker 1: all staying off at different different places campus. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: it's not like before. And now I'm getting my computers

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Speaker 1: getting wet here. Um, this is chel Now. If it

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Speaker 1: gets soaking wet, it's not like you could just go

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Speaker 1: to your room wherever you're staying at and do it

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Speaker 1: that way. The boom looks pretty happy strolling through the

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Speaker 1: outfit card at a very slow pace, just getting drenched. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is this is getting pretty heavy now, Yeah it is.

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Speaker 1: I keep playing. I don't think is gonna come down.

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Speaker 1: I knew what it was. But once coaches started calling

424
00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,240
Speaker 1: names and stuff like that, I was like, I just

425
00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,280
Speaker 1: don't want to mess up. So he wasn't. Yeah, he

426
00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:26,080
Speaker 1: just so he wasn't. He wasn't like when they were

427
00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,159
Speaker 1: asking questions, He's like, and it makes it look like

428
00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,000
Speaker 1: you don't know what you're doing, you know, when you

429
00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:34,000
Speaker 1: stop and think about it, he said, Uh see, I

430
00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,800
Speaker 1: was thinking too hard and not uh not messing up.

431
00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,800
Speaker 1: You know the answer, Just say it, don't overthink it,

432
00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,400
Speaker 1: just say it now. And now I can say it fast.

433
00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,520
Speaker 1: I've been in the playbook. I feel good about it.

434
00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:49,520
Speaker 1: So it's a difference, and he also talked about kind

435
00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,000
Speaker 1: of knowing. He said he learned a lot last year

436
00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:54,840
Speaker 1: in terms of how to deal with injury. He said,

437
00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:56,920
Speaker 1: I learned a lot in other ways. I got hurt,

438
00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:00,200
Speaker 1: but I kind of learned that rehab was were the

439
00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:02,280
Speaker 1: more of a thing that I needed than I've been

440
00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:05,080
Speaker 1: doing before. Before I was pretty much going to sleep

441
00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:08,399
Speaker 1: and that was my rehab. I mean, I don't know

442
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,959
Speaker 1: his injury history. Has he ever dealt with a major injury?

443
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,199
Speaker 1: Does he know how to recaver from one? Or you

444
00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,360
Speaker 1: know what rehab and all that stuff entails. Like this

445
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,679
Speaker 1: is more of a college thing in my experience, But

446
00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:22,040
Speaker 1: the number one thing you could do to really infuriate

447
00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:26,000
Speaker 1: coaches and teammates is blow off or don't take injury

448
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:30,600
Speaker 1: rehab seriously, because you know that we're having you part

449
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:31,800
Speaker 1: of the team, and if you're not going to do

450
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,280
Speaker 1: the things to get yourself back on the field properly,

451
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,520
Speaker 1: nobody likes that. I mean that that is the thing

452
00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,360
Speaker 1: that you get the most criticism for. So I mean,

453
00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:42,720
Speaker 1: if one of those young college dudes would not show

454
00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,080
Speaker 1: up the treatment, I mean they were running steps forever

455
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,840
Speaker 1: or whatever, you know, So that's something you absolutely have

456
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:49,800
Speaker 1: to do is just part of your job. You just

457
00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,760
Speaker 1: really hope that Dotson confined some of that form he had.

458
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:54,960
Speaker 1: I mean, you remember at the beginning of the year

459
00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:56,600
Speaker 1: when he was filling in for the Castro, before the

460
00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,400
Speaker 1: Caster came back, there was questions Castro even come back,

461
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,960
Speaker 1: I mean, is playing that well? And then the Castor

462
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 1: does come back and had his you know, falling off

463
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,480
Speaker 1: of a season. Hasn't seen him since. But if he

464
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 1: can get back to that level where it was probably

465
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,200
Speaker 1: the wrong question to ask at that time, but where

466
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,439
Speaker 1: there was still a question being asked, is he pushing

467
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,560
Speaker 1: a you know, borderline all pro guard? He already I

468
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,919
Speaker 1: think you just get back to that kind of that

469
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 1: we've seen. He doesn't have to be at all pro,

470
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:23,199
Speaker 1: but if you get to the point where you're kind

471
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,200
Speaker 1: of like, is he kind of flirting with that line,

472
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 1: and then it's perfect. I think if he does get

473
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,159
Speaker 1: to that level, I think I know what James Daniels is.

474
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a different uniform. He has to

475
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 1: be wearing a different system. All that. I'm not gonna

476
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 1: say they the best guard tandom in the league, but

477
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,399
Speaker 1: they would be a top five or six guard tandom

478
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,440
Speaker 1: if they could get there, and that's a pretty good

479
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 1: starting point. I mean, guards, I'd rather have the best

480
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,639
Speaker 1: five tackles in the league. But I mean, you know,

481
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:46,680
Speaker 1: you can't have everything. That's a starting point for this

482
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,600
Speaker 1: line that you know needs to grow. It's crazy that

483
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,720
Speaker 1: Daniels is younger than Dotson, Yeah right, and has what

484
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 1: two more years of experience in the NFL. So if

485
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 1: you can get that dream scenario that you laid out

486
00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 1: of Daniels, Green, dot Sin, that is a decade of

487
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 1: great because that's putting a lot of faith in them

488
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,160
Speaker 1: to develop that way. But that's a decade of stability,

489
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 1: at least at the interior. That's why I've said this

490
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:12,640
Speaker 1: over and over and I've written it over and over.

491
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 1: I am so impressed, not necessarily with the offensive lineman

492
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 1: they have, and I don't know collectively are they a

493
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 1: good line? Are they good football players? Are they good enough?

494
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 1: But the combination that they created of youth, you know,

495
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,640
Speaker 1: you're talking about daniels young age, and Green's is coming

496
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,480
Speaker 1: and more coming off their first years, and Dotson is

497
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:37,440
Speaker 1: only a season older and experience, you know, Choops is

498
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:41,479
Speaker 1: only twenty four. But these guys collectively have played a

499
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 1: lot of snaps, are very young, and they're locked up

500
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:47,880
Speaker 1: you know, for the future. You're not gonna lose any

501
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 1: of them unless you choose to move on from them.

502
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,240
Speaker 1: I mean, they're all under contract for the next couple

503
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,200
Speaker 1: of years, so you have a chance to really develop

504
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,199
Speaker 1: a lot of continuity. Like we may look back at

505
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,880
Speaker 1: this offseason four years from now, that was the beginning

506
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 1: of when the line started to grow together, and who knows,

507
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 1: maybe they draft a tackle in the first round next

508
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 1: year or whatever, our center or whatever. But I mean

509
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 1: there's a chance for this group to grow together financially

510
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 1: and on the field, but they already have a lot

511
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:16,399
Speaker 1: of experience. Yeah, it's it's gonna be interesting, you know,

512
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 1: to see how this continues to play out. But I

513
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 1: think they've got better depth this year. They've got more

514
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 1: experienced depth this year than I think what people look

515
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 1: clues of the in the ins and those guys, you know,

516
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 1: they weren't names we were counting on a year ago,

517
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:32,880
Speaker 1: and we look at them now and think they get

518
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 1: you out of a game or you know, Um, I'm

519
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 1: still a little suspect of the tackle group as a whole.

520
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if the starters are good

521
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 1: enough or not. I'm interested to see, but they can

522
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,160
Speaker 1: get out of either one, you know, easily and find

523
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 1: something better this offseason. And I'm not sure that third

524
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 1: guy is or if I trust them, but um, the

525
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 1: interiors appealing to me. Well, you know, I look at

526
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,359
Speaker 1: Joe Hagan Transcott, and I think people are kind of

527
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 1: forgetting about Trent Scott without question. You know, he's got

528
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:09,360
Speaker 1: more career starts than Kevin Dotson and yeah, damn more.

529
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:14,639
Speaker 1: I mean, so he's you know, he's he's been around

530
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 1: a while and you know, we'll see, uh, but they do.

531
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 1: I think people need to realize that if you look

532
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 1: around the league, your backups are either guys like that,

533
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,920
Speaker 1: or they're young guys that you just drafted third round

534
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 1: picking enough or you know, right right right, or the

535
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,159
Speaker 1: mac kid, you know school kid that you're hoping, you know,

536
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 1: the former tight end that's growing into his paws a

537
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,880
Speaker 1: little bit then needs a red shirt year and eat

538
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 1: a bunch of steaks and hang out in the weight room.

539
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 1: Or it's the over the hill guy. You know, let

540
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 1: me do that. I'll eat a bunch of steaks. Wouldn't

541
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,879
Speaker 1: be great if somebody paid you to get fat, he

542
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 1: really need to add thirty pounds, Williamson Noble, I'll talk

543
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 1: to you in a week. All right, let's get the

544
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 1: work bringing the lobsters and steak. Yeah. I wish somebody

545
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 1: would do that to me. It's always been the others.

546
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 1: You need to you need to drop some pale all right,

547
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 1: we need to bulk you up. Yeah. But yeah, that

548
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 1: interior offensive line, I think is going to be very

549
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:17,679
Speaker 1: interesting to watch how that plays out. Um, even if

550
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 1: green or dots and hits, you'd be they'd go a

551
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 1: long way. Yeah, absolutely, to have a long term answer there,

552
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 1: I think John to me, uh as I watched John

553
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:31,159
Speaker 1: the glue working over there. Um, old line drills are

554
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 1: really the only thing we get to see at the time,

555
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 1: and so we actually do have a feel for what

556
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 1: they're up to watching the glue in the run tests.

557
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 1: And I know that doesn't mean anything, yeah right, but

558
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 1: he was the guy that was out in front, and

559
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 1: so he's a smooth mover. You know, he's not a

560
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 1: fat guy, you know, I mean he's not. You know,

561
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,959
Speaker 1: he does move well. You know, his pads aren't always low.

562
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,479
Speaker 1: He's not the most powerful he's not the most thickly built.

563
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 1: But I mean, I think they're gonna ask these guys

564
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 1: to block on the move a lot. Yeah, Oh, they definitely. Yeah.

565
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 1: In fact, you know, I've talked to a couple of

566
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 1: different people now and they're talking, uh, you know, in

567
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,880
Speaker 1: the know, and and you know, they keep mentioning play action,

568
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 1: they keep mentioning roll rollouts and things of that nature.

569
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,399
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what this offense is gonna be. And

570
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 1: brings me a trade Turner. Last year, it was about

571
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 1: this time they added trade Turner right well now, he

572
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 1: was at it right after minicamp. Okay, so you know,

573
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago from this time frame, and

574
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 1: I think they just I mean, I think they picked

575
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 1: him because he was the best football player available to

576
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 1: need position, very very late in the process. But he's

577
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,919
Speaker 1: a come off the ball masher. He's not a lateral

578
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 1: agility out in space guy. That brings me to my

579
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,239
Speaker 1: next question, Matt and just put up put on your

580
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 1: scout helmet here for this one. Um, which one of

581
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 1: those two, Kevin Dotson or Kendrick Green. I have my

582
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 1: thoughts in this better fits in that. Yeah, I think

583
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 1: if you go look at his college and even preseason

584
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 1: highlight tape if you can find it. He makes blocks

585
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 1: down field because he's fast, I mean, and he runs.

586
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 1: He is explosive off the ball, and he makes blocks

587
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 1: thirty yards down field. That's what they liked when they

588
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 1: looked at him. They saw a potential center prospect that

589
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 1: was a good center class out on the edge. He

590
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 1: was the best of getting out and and and leading,

591
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 1: you know, being a lead blocker on a sweep or

592
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 1: something like that. I want to say, there's a highlight

593
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 1: of him either out running the Illinois running back or

594
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 1: catching up to one of the wide receivers. It's like

595
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 1: twenty or thirty yards downfield, and he's just a house

596
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 1: of fire rolling downfield. So that's not his problem. His

597
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 1: problems technique, you know, and that's one thing that he

598
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 1: worked on with Marquise Pouncey and getting that hand up

599
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,239
Speaker 1: quicker and doing those kind of things. But I'm sure

600
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 1: a lot of people missed it. But we had a

601
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 1: really good conversation at the combine with Max Stark's and

602
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 1: this was something I suspected, but hearing it from an

603
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 1: old lineman, it made an awful lot of sense. He said,

604
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 1: you know Green I played four games at center at Illinois,

605
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 1: so naturally, especially with as much shotgun as they ran,

606
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 1: you have to snap that thing back pretty far, and

607
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 1: that snapping hand has to snap up really quick to

608
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 1: catch your opponent. And asked Wolf about Webby. I mean,

609
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 1: he's like, no one's ever done it better from snap

610
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 1: to hand position, and just think how hard that is.

611
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,959
Speaker 1: But once, you know, about a month of the season

612
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 1: went through and every defensive coordinator and every d line

613
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 1: coach recognized it. They put a big body over his

614
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 1: right shoulder and exploited that weakness time and he's not

615
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 1: get his hand up quick enough. And then everybody, well,

616
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 1: he's not strong enough to play this game. He doesn't

617
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 1: have strength this year. That's not the problem. He's very strong, right,

618
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 1: I mean his hands are strong, his body, lower body

619
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 1: is strong. He's explosive. If he could just correct that,

620
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 1: that would go a long way, and you know teams

621
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 1: wouldn't attack him in the same way. But he didn't

622
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 1: last year. You know, it's hard to do in the

623
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 1: middle of the season. Week's nine, whatever, right, would you

624
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 1: say he's probably the offensive lineman that you think has

625
00:30:55,360 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 1: the highest ceiling right now, besides Daniels. Yeah, I'm really high.

626
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 1: I thought Daniels was gonna be a first round pick

627
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 1: when he came out. He's a very athletic as well.

628
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 1: We've already seen it. But I mean those two, if

629
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 1: they had an athletic testing, feats of strength and combine

630
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 1: testing would be interesting. Who wins theatre exactly. But as

631
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 1: interior lineman go Daniels and Green or high end specimens. Yeah,

632
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: whether they have right there right, they can run, they

633
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 1: can change direction, they can hit smaller men in space.

634
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 1: That's gonna be really key here too, especially as much

635
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 1: nickel and dime as you see, people don't think about

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Speaker 1: that stuff. I mean, if you're a polling guard and

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Speaker 1: you have to hit Durwin James, who's eighty pounds less

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Speaker 1: than you, but he's also six three, you know, like

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Speaker 1: he's gonna duck out. You know he's not gonna just

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Speaker 1: take you a face up, the duck out of the way.

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Speaker 1: And we've probably thought about this a lot of round

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Speaker 1: combine time. A real good indicator that I believe in

643
00:31:56,120 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 1: more every year is interior old lineman short shot old numbers,

644
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 1: because they're got to change directions all the time, even

645
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Speaker 1: in protection. Aaron Donald has you lean into your right

646
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 1: and then he crosses your face and comes to the left. Well,

647
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: you gotta plant that foot and get back to you know,

648
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 1: get in his face. I mean it's a lot of

649
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 1: change in direction. Rarely you're just coming off the ball

650
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 1: and smashing the dude in front of you and trying

651
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 1: to put him on his back. Yeah, it's not right, right,

652
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 1: People don't play that way anymore. Yeah, So the game

653
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 1: is all about being uh, he is all about playing

654
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Speaker 1: in space. And with all respect to Trey Turner, who

655
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 1: they had been trouble if they didn't have, that's more

656
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 1: his game, you know, Like, I don't think they moved

657
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 1: on from him because they didn't like him at all

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Speaker 1: as a player. It's just you're not really what we're

659
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Speaker 1: looking for anymore, right, right, Yeah, interesting, we're gonna take

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00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 1: another break. He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lally.

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Speaker 1: That's Tom Opperman over there with the wet shirt. Uh.

662
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 1: Where we are alive from Steelers training camp here at St.

663
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Speaker 1: Vincent College. The rain has stopped, the players are over.

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Speaker 1: It looks like they're starting to take the tarp off

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Speaker 1: the field over here. Guys, why would he bother moving them.

666
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 1: They may switch back over to the to the grass field. Here,

667
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 1: it's gonna be dry because they put they put the

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Speaker 1: they put that on before lunch, before the rain had

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Speaker 1: really started. Would the advantage me to doing that? They

670
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Speaker 1: like to practice on the grass because it's easier. Yeah, okay,

671
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 1: but you get on that turf and some reason. It's

672
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Speaker 1: just every once in a while, the turf monster reaches

673
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Speaker 1: up and somebody they would prefer to do the grass

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Speaker 1: if possible. Yeah, I guess it is dry. I mean

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00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 1: that would make some sense. But yesterday's practice was only

676
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 1: ninety minutes. This one's gonna be a little longer. It's

677
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 1: gonna be closer to two hours. Yeah, but they're already

678
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Speaker 1: forty minutes into it, right, Well, but you still get

679
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Speaker 1: an hour on the right right right when you're doing

680
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Speaker 1: I think what you're what? They really they can do

681
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 1: their individual drills and stuff over here because as were

682
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 1: mostly walk through speed and stuff. But once they go

683
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 1: to the team, they want to be on the grass.

684
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 1: That makes sense, you running routes and all that. Yeah,

685
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 1: So hopefully that's what happened. Fans they get to see more. Yeah, absolutely,

686
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Speaker 1: but we are going to take a break. We'll be

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Speaker 1: back with more from St. Pens of College right after this.

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Speaker 1: On Steelers Nation Radio, you're listening to me a fish

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Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back on Dale Ally here with

697
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 1: Matt Williamson and m Offerman. Is Steelers doing some some

698
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 1: driels right here in front is Actually they're kind of

699
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Speaker 1: closer if there weren't a screen on the softball fence,

700
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,280
Speaker 1: we can see things perfectly. We could use the soccer

701
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 1: nuts moved than nuts to everything like that. We can

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00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:04,879
Speaker 1: see like half the end zone. Um. Anyway, So Ben

703
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Speaker 1: Roethlisberger was on the UH the DV Morning show today.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys have followed this story

705
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Speaker 1: at all, but Ben uh last week I believe it

706
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: was earlier this week was on something. I think he

707
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 1: said something about, you know, guys, guys uh are aren't

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Speaker 1: aren't into they're They're more about them their brand and

709
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 1: things of that nature than they are football. It's not

710
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 1: like you know, they're they're they're not all just for

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00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: the team like they were back when he started. I

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Speaker 1: think first the first type of players. Yeah, and then

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Speaker 1: and then Cam Heyward came out and said, hey, that's

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Speaker 1: that's not absolutely correct here. And then I guess Ben

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Speaker 1: was on the DV Morning show this morning and kind

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Speaker 1: of clarified his statement. I'm really interested what he has

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Speaker 1: to say. Um, but I don't think there's any denying

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Speaker 1: that twenty years ago people didn't have brands. You not

719
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 1: worried about your TikTok and what's your what's your Instagram

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00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 1: was put? You know, all that kind of stuff. So

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Speaker 1: do we have that ready there, Brian, Let's go ahead

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Speaker 1: and run what Ben Roethlisberger had to say on the

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Speaker 1: DV Morning Show. And I will say this, I agree

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Speaker 1: with him, and I should have been more clear. The

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00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,760
Speaker 1: majority of the guys on that team are very team

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Speaker 1: first guys, you know, so so I didn't want to.

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Speaker 1: I hated that it got painted like it's the majority

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Speaker 1: of me first. It's not that way. There are so

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00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,839
Speaker 1: many great team guys on that team and and that

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Speaker 1: that care about the Steelers, this organization and winning, so

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Speaker 1: that that maybe I I maybe should have clarified that

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Speaker 1: a little more to begin with. So that's my bad. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that was Ben Roethlisberger not necessarily walking back his his

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Speaker 1: his statement because I do believe that he believes that

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Speaker 1: there are some me first guys, and I think we

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00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 1: can probably figure out who some of those people were

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Speaker 1: and have been in the past. Uh, And that's pretty obvious,

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Speaker 1: but it's not everybody. That's what it always gets me

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Speaker 1: when when people talk about if somebody gets in trouble,

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00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 1: one guy gets in trouble. Those guys are all bunch

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Speaker 1: of criminals, all from very different backgrounds and you know,

742
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Speaker 1: upbringings and colleges and areas of the country, and they

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Speaker 1: all collaborate. Here is one often against their not against

744
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: their will, but without their choice. They get drafted and

745
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 1: to go to wherever they send you, and you're bound

746
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Speaker 1: to have some that aren't perfect, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I not that big a deal. No,

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Speaker 1: and that's a great tom One thing is he handles

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00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 1: that extremely well. And the other thing that's also funny

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Speaker 1: about that is I like how people pretend like the

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00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 1: Steelers are the only team that deals with that issue,

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00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:42,919
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like the Steeler Yeah, right, Like, oh,

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Speaker 1: the Steelers are just all over TikTok, They're all over

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00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 1: social media. The Patriots don't even have cell phones. If

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00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 1: Foxborough I don't even know if they have cell phone towers,

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00:37:54,960 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 1: and fox breaks who do. It's so far out away

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00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 1: from the city that it's the middle of officially the

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00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,479
Speaker 1: middle of nowhere. But that's what really bothers me, because

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00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,359
Speaker 1: I get it there is you can have a fair

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00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 1: room for criticism if you think it's too much. And

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Speaker 1: like you said, there's examples that anybody out there can

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00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 1: think of off the top of their head of it

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00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 1: being too much on the Steelers. But to act like

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00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:20,439
Speaker 1: it's some you know, specific problem to just the Pittsburgh Steelers, well,

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00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 1: here's here's what happens. I mean, people, I get it,

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Speaker 1: fans watch just their team. It's just like the people

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00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: with Matt last years were saying, oh, the Steeler's offensive

768
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 1: line is the worst offensive line of the in football.

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Speaker 1: Go watch the Bank, watch the other teams. You know,

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00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 1: I can give you five that are worse. I get

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00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 1: you watch you watch every Steelers game every Sunday, sometimes

772
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,800
Speaker 1: you watch it twice. So yeah, that's what you're gonna see.

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Speaker 1: But having a frame of reference of the other thirty

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Speaker 1: one teams is absolutely important. And I will say, I

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00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 1: mean when you study the draft, there's character, red flag guys.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely often they end up in the same teams. I

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00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: mean you can figure them out. I mean over the years, Cincinnati,

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Speaker 1: cleve Lynn, Dallas, Kansas City, even I mean, they will

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00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 1: take those guys for better or worse. Sometimes they hit

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00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 1: a home run with them, get him around cheaper. But

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Speaker 1: the Seelers aren't one of them, you know, because typically

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Speaker 1: a lot of times, if that guy's got that like,

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Speaker 1: they don't just push him down a couple of rounds,

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Speaker 1: Like we're okay taking this guy in this in this

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00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 1: sixth round, but we would take him in around two.

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Speaker 1: If he's that kind of guy, they'll take him off

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Speaker 1: their board completely, right, he's a second round player that

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00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 1: will take in the third or fourth. Well, that's not

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Speaker 1: how they do. That's not how that's and I understand that.

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Speaker 1: You know, George Pickens had some things, but it wasn't criminal,

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Speaker 1: you know. I mean like it's more wide receiver type things.

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00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 1: Wide the wide receiver position. If you're not a diva,

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Speaker 1: you're not good, right. Yeah. James Washington, James Washington was

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00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 1: the was the nicest guy in the world, but he

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Speaker 1: wasn't you know, he just didn't have that you know,

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Speaker 1: he killer that killer instinct and I think, you know,

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Speaker 1: I want Michael Irvin and al I said, like, you know,

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Speaker 1: when people would would go after Antonio Brown about wanting

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Speaker 1: the football and was it about his catches? Yeah, it

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00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: was that was there were some of that, But he

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00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 1: wanted the football because he thought he gave them the

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Speaker 1: best chance to win if they got him the ball,

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Speaker 1: and a pretty good case because yeah, yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: he thinks he's the best guy. There's there's so much

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00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 1: I don't know if if if the average Joe understands

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00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 1: the level of athletic arrogance that goes into playing in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. And these guys think they could do anything anything.

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Speaker 1: Receivers dependent on somebody giving me, yeah, you know, and

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Speaker 1: that and that's you know, you're and your I mean

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Speaker 1: even Swan installs used to battle in camp every day,

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Speaker 1: or you know, talking Bradshaw's year. You know, I'm more

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Speaker 1: open than him, you know what I mean that that

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00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 1: position you have to have sort of a singular nature

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Speaker 1: to it as well. I mean, you're on your own

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Speaker 1: island in a way. I really like your point though, Matt,

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Speaker 1: about how when Ben was coming in there was no

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Speaker 1: social media. It was just a different era. You can

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Speaker 1: almost equate, you know, Wolf talking about the nuns cooking

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Speaker 1: and them doing three days and burning everything to what

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00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,320
Speaker 1: they get treated like today here to Ben talking about

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00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 1: it was all about the team. Before then, no one

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00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 1: cared about their own individual brand, and now that's just

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00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:10,840
Speaker 1: the way the world is now. It's just there's no

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00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 1: going back. Social media has changed the world for better

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00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 1: or for worse, probably for worse, but it's not going

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Speaker 1: back in the bottle. So you're just gonna have to

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00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: embrace what athletes are gonna be like, and it's just

828
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 1: gonna get more and more that way, and then you'd

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Speaker 1: probably remember this better than I do. But I mean,

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Speaker 1: twenty years ago, Michael Jordan's had a brand, I mean,

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Speaker 1: like had brand. You know with Nike, I mean, but

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Speaker 1: that was it. You know, Prime Time had a brand,

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00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 1: you know, there wasn't. Now every NBA player in the

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00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 1: league has his own shoe right not to mention eight

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Speaker 1: gazillion followers or whatever they're you know, whatever they're at,

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Speaker 1: you know, they choose to. And that's part of it too,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know they don't. Things have changed in

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Speaker 1: the media part of it as well, because they don't

839
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Speaker 1: necessarily think that they need they could. They could get

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00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 1: their message out to their to their fans in their

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00:41:57,719 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 1: own way. They could just do it, put it on

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00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 1: Instagram or whatever they want to do, you know. And

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00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 1: even contract negotiations like even in Ben's rookie years or

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Speaker 1: certainly in the Wolf era, that they had no outlet,

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Speaker 1: you know, and back then I was a fan back

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00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,320
Speaker 1: then and just thought, boy, that's just a selfish player

847
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 1: talking to a reporter or whatever by his contract. But

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00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 1: he had no way of expressing that, hey, I'm vastly

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Speaker 1: underpaid here, or you know, I only got so many

850
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 1: years to make it, make a buck, I gotta speak up. Yeah,

851
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,839
Speaker 1: And it's that that part of it has changed as well.

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00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 1: The money part is just it's a different it's a

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00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 1: different world, and these guys still don't make the money

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00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 1: that a lot of these guys right in front of

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00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 1: us don't make great money. Yeah, that's the same thing

856
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Speaker 1: when people's well, it's just a bunch of millionaires, Well no,

857
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 1: it's not really. Uh you know, they're they're six or

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00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 1: seven millionaires on the team, multiple millions every year and

859
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,320
Speaker 1: and have that in the bank. Most of these guys

860
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 1: are going contract to contract like they're they're they're hoping

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00:42:57,880 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 1: just to make the team so they can get the

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00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 1: a league minimum. And hey, we'd all love to have

863
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 1: If somebody want to pay me the league minimum, great,

864
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Speaker 1: But you know, and I don't want to hear they're

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00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 1: playing a kid's game. Do you know how much work

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Speaker 1: they it takes to even get on that field and

867
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 1: in the dedication, I mean even the tallenge team and

868
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 1: the talent, I mean the point one percent can do

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00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 1: it in you know. So I don't want to hear

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00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 1: that because all you guys listening sure like watching the

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00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 1: kids game, you know, like I remember that growing up.

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Speaker 1: People someone's making a million dollars to play baseball. That's

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00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 1: a kid's game. I mean, you should never been like,

874
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 1: come on. I mean, what are you talking about. No

875
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 1: one has a problem and Robert diniro makes that money.

876
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 1: Well that's just it. Yeah, you look in the mirror.

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00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 1: If you want to ask who's to blame for these

878
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 1: athletes getting paid all the money, You just look in

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00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 1: the mirror for watching the sport making the sport as

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00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 1: big as it is. Like, no one watched it, no

881
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 1: one went to the game. There would be no pool

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00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 1: to pay the players from. So it's obviously very vastly

883
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 1: consumed for a kid's game. NBC and Fox in these

884
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,839
Speaker 1: companies wouldn't be giving it bazillions of dollars to put

885
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 1: it on their airways. You know, that's the reality of it.

886
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 1: But yeah, So that was Ben Roethlisberger statement about that.

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00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 1: Cam Heyward was talking about today at lunch as well.

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00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 1: He says, Look, Ben and I were good. We don't

889
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 1: we We've had this conversation before. We both agree that

890
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:15,439
Speaker 1: you know, there are some me first players. Things have changed. Uh,

891
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 1: you know, that's just the reality of the situation. Because

892
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 1: of social media, those things have gotten different. But yeah,

893
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I I think that that is Tom said,

894
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 1: the genie is out of the bottle. It's not going back.

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Speaker 1: You know, my biggest takeaway from the whole production though,

896
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 1: was Cam immediately stepping up and having his teams back.

897
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 1: You know, the days of Roethlisberger as great as they

898
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 1: were gone. Cam's the leader of this team and he

899
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,879
Speaker 1: steps up immediately, you know. I mean that's big. Those

900
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 1: guys noticed that stuff absolutely, and you know he's the player,

901
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:51,439
Speaker 1: rep he's he's the leader of this team. Um yeah,

902
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 1: I was gonna step up and say, hey, Cam, you wrong,

903
00:44:54,920 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 1: U Cam? But that's uh that that was the the

904
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 1: latest controversy and that's not even much of a controversy.

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00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 1: Small potatoes, yeah, very very small potatoes. But that's going

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Speaker 1: to do it for our one here on of our

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Speaker 1: live coverage here from the same Vincent College that we're

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Speaker 1: gonna take a break. He is Tom Offerman. That is

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