1 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: We're hitting the inside scoop with that FT senior insider 2 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: Ken Rosenthal. I'm going to bring up a name that 3 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: we talk about a lot during the regular season. He's 4 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: fun to watch, but Ken, I've barely heard a lick 5 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:19,279 Speaker 1: about him this offseason. Where in the world could Luis 6 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: Arise sign? 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 2: Not exactly, sure, Scott, and it's almost February, and you're right, 8 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 2: we have not heard much about him. It doesn't mean 9 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 2: things are not going on behind the scenes. But Arise 10 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 2: is a guy who is really the most fascinating free 11 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 2: agent in so many ways. Obviously, he has what they 12 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 2: call the hit tool. He can hit for average. That 13 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 2: is the thing he does extraordinarily well. The rest of 14 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 2: his game is the problem. And we're talking about defense, 15 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 2: of course, and we're talking about power. He has no 16 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 2: power in an age when basically you need power. And 17 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 2: his defense, whether it's second or first, is not at 18 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:00,040 Speaker 2: an average level at this stage of his career. So 19 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 2: there are spots I can imagine him being The Giants 20 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 2: are still looking for a second baseman. I don't know 21 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 2: that they would want to compromise their infield defense in 22 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 2: that way, but maybe they would. And then I know 23 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 2: you guys have talked about the Blue Jays a little bit. 24 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 2: I don't really see that. It seems to me their 25 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 2: infield is pretty set. But I would imagine he's going 26 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 2: to get a deal somewhere. It's not going to be 27 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 2: a very financially lucrative deal, and it's going to be 28 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 2: almost a prove it year for him, which is kind 29 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 2: of weird because he is a player who has proven it. 30 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 2: But I just don't see a huge market for him 31 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 2: right now. 32 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 3: That's crazy, Ken, That's great. 33 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 4: So is this a case of not only does he 34 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 4: not have power, but he also can't run right, so 35 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 4: he doesn't steal bases, He doesn't really have a position, 36 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 4: so the one he only has basically one tool. He 37 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 4: can hit for average and doesn't strike out, and that's 38 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 4: basically his only tools. So teams are saying, hey, we 39 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 4: value power, we value slug obviously, which are kind of 40 00:01:58,520 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 4: the same thing. 41 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 3: We value speed defense. 42 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 4: You have to have more than one thing to get 43 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 4: the lucrative deal because if you just have the one, 44 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 4: unless maybe you're a pitcher that can do one hundred 45 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 4: and five miles an hour, then they're like, oh, we'll 46 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 4: overlook it. Right, But as an offensive player. You have 47 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 4: to have more than one tool to get the big 48 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 4: contract you think you deserve. 49 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 2: A hey, ja, that is a fair assessment. And it's 50 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 2: hard to say that about Louis Ries because he's one 51 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 2: of my favorites. He is a favorite of a lot 52 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 2: of people. He is fun to watch, but at the 53 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 2: same time, the deficiencies in his game are pretty big deficiencies. 54 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:34,399 Speaker 2: And let's look at it from another perspective. Let's say 55 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 2: he was a player who was a really really strong 56 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 2: defender but couldn't hit it all. What would that player 57 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 2: be worth on the open market? Probably not much, So 58 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 2: I'm thinking of a guy like Nick Ahmed. Okay, Nick 59 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 2: Ahmed was a one dimensional guy in many ways, a 60 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:52,799 Speaker 2: gifted fielder and a guy who contributed to a lot 61 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 2: of good teams. But it was a struggle for him 62 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 2: latter part of his career because he really was a 63 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 2: one trick guy. And that's kind of how teams c arise. 64 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 3: Yes, is his defense at second base? Is it that 65 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 3: it's that poor or it's that he hasn't played that 66 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 3: much of it? Because when he was with the Padres 67 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 3: recently they were deploying him more at first base. So 68 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 3: the giants' fear of his lack of experience in the 69 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 3: last few years, or is it just that you know, 70 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 3: they see his foot speed and the way he moves 71 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 3: around the bag isn't going to be enough for them. 72 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 2: I can't speak specifically to the giants, and what I 73 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 2: was saying about them was kind of speculative. Eric, they 74 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 2: need a second basement, so naturally you would think perhaps 75 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 2: he's a possibility, and the athletics Andrew Baggerley has mentioned 76 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 2: him as a possibility there. It's pretty much the only 77 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 2: mention I've seen of him. You ask, is the problem 78 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 2: that he hasn't played it, or is the problem that 79 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 2: he didn't play it well? Well? The reason he hasn't 80 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 2: played it is because he wasn't playing it well, and 81 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 2: kind of both things go together. So it probably is 82 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 2: a stretch to imagine him as a full time second 83 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 2: basement at this stage of his career. Again, maybe he's 84 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 2: someone you bounce around a little bit. I'm not exactly sure. 85 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 2: Maybe he DH is a little bit, but from your 86 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 2: DH you would want more power. So it's kind of 87 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 2: a difficult puzzle to solve if you're trying to fit 88 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 2: him onto your twenty six man roster. 89 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 3: Jez Ken. 90 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 4: What came first, the chicken or the egg? Right, No 91 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 4: power equals no playing. You can't play second, but you 92 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 4: don't get to place. It's great. It's like when you're 93 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 4: a young kid and they bring you up and you're 94 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 4: a left handed hitter and they say, we can't hit lefties. Well, 95 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:30,679 Speaker 4: how do you know? I hit leftis in the minor leagues. 96 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 4: I've hit lefties in my whole life. But now I'm 97 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 4: in the big leagues, I can't hit lefties. Like, give 98 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 4: me a shot. But anyways, we're gonna move on from 99 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 4: Luis Rise because I love him. I know Scott loves him. 100 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 4: I don't know about Kratz. Kratz was a home or 101 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 4: nothing guy. But I love Luis A. Rise. I think 102 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 4: he's great for the game and we need to get 103 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 4: back to a little more of that. But I'm off 104 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 4: my soapbox. We just talked about trades. The names that 105 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 4: are supposed to be trade Sandy al Contra, cj Abrams, 106 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:56,479 Speaker 4: Jaron Duran. Which one of these guys do you think 107 00:04:56,560 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 4: is most likely to be traded? Brandon Donovan maybe before day. 108 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 2: I still believe the Cardinals are going to trade Donovan, 109 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 2: and it seems that well not seems it's obvious that 110 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 2: their bar has not been hit. The standard that they 111 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 2: set for the return they want for Brendan Donovan just 112 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 2: hasn't come their way. But you still have the Giants 113 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 2: we just talked about looking at second base. The Mariners 114 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 2: are another team, and there are others as well that 115 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:26,119 Speaker 2: have been linked to Brendan Donovan. Kansas City was interested 116 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 2: at one time. Doesn't seem to be a match there. 117 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 2: So it seems to me that he is the guy 118 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 2: that the Cardinals are going to move at some point. 119 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 2: There's not much question about that. The question is when 120 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 2: and do they get their return, desired return in time 121 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 2: before the season starts to make that move. So I 122 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 2: still see him as the most likely simply because he's 123 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 2: been out there so long. CJ. Abrams, It's possible, but 124 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 2: they have time to trade him. He has three years 125 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 2: of control. The Duran thing. 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You know, they're 153 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 3: turning over their coaches, they're turning over their general manager. 154 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 3: They traded Juan Soto for James Wood, Mackenzie Gore, cj Abrams, 155 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 3: Robert Hassel who's in the big leagues now this past year, 156 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 3: and Sasanna Harlan Sasana. Okay, So those five guys, four 157 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 3: of which are currently on their big league team, three 158 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 3: of which really had major impacts on their big league team, 159 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 3: and they're talking about only keeping James Wood so far. 160 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 3: What kind of like wasn't that the reason like build 161 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 3: around them during that time? 162 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 2: And so what is the least Eric? Here's the lesson. 163 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 2: And these teams go into these rebuilding plans, five year plans, 164 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 2: four year plans, whatever it might be. They tell you 165 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 2: trust the process, trust us here. Now, sometimes it works 166 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 2: quite well, and we've seen countless examples. I would say 167 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 2: Detroit is an example right now of one that is 168 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 2: working well. They've got some really good young players in 169 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 2: the big league and big leagues, and they've got Max 170 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 2: Clark and Kevin McGonigal coming. They're two of the top 171 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 2: ten prospects in the game. But then there are the Nationals, 172 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 2: and I would even suggest that there are other teams 173 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 2: along these lines through The Reds have not ever really 174 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 2: gotten back to where they wanted to when they started 175 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:42,679 Speaker 2: their rebuild. But the Nats were a clear rebuild when 176 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,679 Speaker 2: they traded Soto, and now they're on phase two because 177 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 2: they've traded a key player from that deal, Mackenzie Gore. 178 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 2: And again, the lesson is doesn't always work, doesn't always 179 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 2: work the way you want it, and even when it 180 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:59,079 Speaker 2: does work at some points. Let's stick at the Oriols 181 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 2: for example. The Oriols rebuilt did work. They got to 182 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 2: the playoffs back to back years, and yet they were 183 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 2: unable to take the next step because they were not 184 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 2: aggressive enough in free agency whatever you might want to describe. 185 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 2: They didn't put a good enough big league team together. 186 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 2: So when fans are sold this bill of goods, hey 187 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 2: trust us, it's going to be okay, it's not always okay. 188 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 2: Often it is, and you can understand, for instance, what 189 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 2: the Cardinals are doing right now. In their case, it's overdue, 190 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 2: But is it guaranteed that in five years the Cardinals 191 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 2: went back to where they were not at all, No way. 192 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 3: Another person that has been rumored to be traded but 193 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 3: wasn't last year, Sandy out Contra. Could he be the 194 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 3: one that goes into the season and has Ken's going 195 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 3: to answer how many starts it's gonna be, and then 196 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 3: bang be traded? 197 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 2: Like? 198 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 3: Is that where they're looking like as soon as he 199 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 3: looks hot, he could be like an early June type 200 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 3: of trade. 201 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 2: I'm not sure, Eric, and actually I discussed this on 202 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 2: Fair Territory yesterday. They've already t created two starting pitchers, 203 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,959 Speaker 2: Edward Cabrera and Ryan Weathers. Part of their logic there 204 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 2: is that they have prospects like Thomas White Cumming and 205 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 2: they want to give them enough of a runway to 206 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 2: have opportunity in the major leagues. Good. That's fine, and 207 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 2: they did well in those trades, at least they believe 208 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 2: they did with our contra. You want to go into 209 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 2: the season competing six team that won seventy nine games 210 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 2: last year was a pain to play. They were difficult 211 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,319 Speaker 2: to play. They were kind of the Brewers of the Southeast, 212 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 2: not as good, but they had that kind of mojo 213 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 2: about them. Put the ball in play. Do some things 214 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 2: play the game fundamentally well. So I don't know that 215 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 2: right away their objective is going to be the trade 216 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 2: Sandy l contra. If indeed they are not in contention 217 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:47,559 Speaker 2: and he's pitching well in July, of course, then you 218 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 2: entertain it. But I sort of expect them to be 219 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 2: at least in wildcard contention. Obviously they're in a difficult division. 220 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 2: We all know that Atlanta will be better. The Mets 221 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 2: have retooled. The Phillies are going to be good. They 222 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 2: might not be as good as their fans would want 223 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 2: them to be, but they'll be good. So we'll see 224 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 2: where Marlin where the Marlins are in July. But I 225 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 2: don't know that in spring training they would even entertain 226 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 2: this because they do plan on competing at a higher 227 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 2: level this season. 228 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 4: Ken, I'm just gonna give you a warning now that 229 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 4: people in the comments are going to destroy you about 230 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:26,719 Speaker 4: saying that the Marlins need to keep Sandy and keep 231 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 4: Ryan Weathers and all this because they have apparently the 232 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 4: greatest pitching depth in the history of Major League Baseball. 233 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:36,319 Speaker 4: When I said Ryan Weather seems like someone you might 234 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 4: want to keep around, I got absolutely destroyed. Because you 235 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 4: don't understand how deep to Marlin's pitching staff is. And 236 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 4: they named three kids, four kids, five kids, six kids, 237 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 4: twenty five pitchers that are from the Complex League to 238 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 4: the Triple A. So Ken just you know, the Marlins 239 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:57,839 Speaker 4: have the greatest conglomeration of pitching prospects ever assemble a J. 240 00:11:58,040 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 2: I would advise you not to look at the comments 241 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 2: if you're going to be that sensitive about them. The 242 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 2: Marlins do have they do have seacent pitching depth. They 243 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 2: do have it, and that doesn't mean it's all going 244 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 2: to translate into success. 245 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 3: We know this. 246 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 2: Pictures get hurt all the time. The Marlins have experienced 247 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 2: this with countless pictures in recent years. But the way 248 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:20,319 Speaker 2: they are going about it, the reasons that they traded 249 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 2: Cabrera and Weather's part of it was because they could 250 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 2: get good value for them, and the other part was 251 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 2: they feel that, as I mentioned, guys like Thomas White 252 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 2: are coming and they want those guys to get fair opportunities. 253 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 2: So I'm sorry that people are getting upset with you, AJ, 254 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 2: but I understand the logic there. I understand why fans 255 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 2: of the Marlins are saying that that is what the 256 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 2: Marlins are saying, and that is kind of how they're operating. Obviously, 257 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 2: we'll see how it all comes together. 258 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 3: Okay. And I saw a smile when you said sorry, 259 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 3: And if you say sorry and you smile at the 260 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 3: same time, it's not that genuine. 261 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:58,199 Speaker 2: Well you got me, Eric, What could I say? 262 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:04,439 Speaker 3: Oba Schef from Dave Dobrowski's words, was a very close 263 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 3: to being a Philly. Is there any smoke to the 264 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 3: fact that they may have had to trade it Bryson 265 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 3: Stott or Alec Bowman? Could that still be a way 266 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 3: that the Phillies maybe add some major piece, or they 267 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 3: come into an agreement with like a a Uhennio Suarez 268 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,599 Speaker 3: and then moving Bowman his last year before he's a 269 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:25,079 Speaker 3: free agent. 270 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 2: All those things are possible. And Boehm was a guy 271 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 2: they've talked about for over a year now, so that 272 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 2: is certainly something that's been in play. But they were 273 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 2: going to sign Bishett regardless of whether they had a 274 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 2: trade in place for Bohm. In my opinion, I'm not 275 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 2: sure of that, but I don't know that they were 276 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 2: too worried about Alec Bohm. They wanted bo Baschett, and 277 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 2: yes they did come close, but it's free agency teams 278 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 2: do come out of nowhere, and that's what happened with 279 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 2: the Mets. The Mets will tell you they didn't come 280 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 2: out of nowhere. They were in there the whole time, 281 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 2: but the Phillies certainly were not aware of that, and 282 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:00,439 Speaker 2: that is how it transpired the way it did. Phillies 283 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 2: fans right now, if you read message boards and Twitter 284 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 2: or whatever, they're quite upset. They feel that the Mets 285 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 2: pulled a fast one on them with Bishett and that 286 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 2: Dombrowski did not react well enough or was not aggressive 287 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 2: enough in getting that done. But they're going to be 288 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 2: a competitive team now. Can they be better? Yes, they 289 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 2: can be better, and in my view, it would have 290 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 2: been helpful for them to do a little bit more 291 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 2: this offseason simply because I don't want to say it's 292 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 2: stale there. They've had a great run, but they're getting 293 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 2: older and you would want a younger position player like 294 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 2: a Bichette in the mix. So I can understand the frustration. 295 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 2: They're essentially running it back, and that's okay. It's a 296 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 2: pretty good roster that they have, but sometimes there is 297 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 2: a great amount of value in bringing in new players 298 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 2: to kind of bring in new energy. The Dodgers have 299 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 2: done that over the years, not just with Tucker, in fact, 300 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 2: Tucker's kind of a different kind of mood. They've done 301 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 2: it with comp mentary players, guys who might not have 302 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 2: been World Series champions elsewhere but are coming to the 303 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 2: Dodgers and are desperate to be in that position. Blake 304 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 2: Snill not a complimentary player, obviously, but that was one 305 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 2: reason he signed there. He was hungry to win, and 306 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 2: you do need that kind of injection from time to time. 307 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 1: Hey, ken, we haven't talked about Schooble in a while 308 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: on the trade front, so I'm going to bring it 309 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 1: up again just because it's the hot topic in the 310 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 1: chat at the moment. I do look at the chat 311 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: and I love it, and I don't get offended. I 312 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: actually get in figurated from it. But anyway, for Schooble, 313 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 1: he's got the arbitration battle coming up with the team. 314 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: Clearly there are worlds apart on any kind of extension, 315 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 1: this team is going to be contending. They have been 316 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: worse than the Phillies in terms of running it back. 317 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: They really haven't added anything besides resigning, Fitning in and 318 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: signing up Kenley Jansen for the bullpen during a winning 319 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: window that might close after this year. Bring it up again, 320 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: I know the asking price to sky high. Why go 321 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: into the season like this, You're basically saying, I'm good, 322 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 1: I'm going to let this guy walk for a draft 323 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: pick after the season. 324 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 2: You do that because you think you can win with him, 325 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 2: and certainly they can win the Al Central with him, 326 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 2: and they were in position to do that last year 327 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 2: fell apart. Of course, we know that. But while they 328 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 2: are running it back, and I'm with you, Scott, they 329 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 2: should have done more. They should have done more offensively. 330 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 2: They kite labor Torres of course accept the qualifying offer, 331 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 2: and that was part of their off season equation as well. 332 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 2: They are going to mix in some of these kids, 333 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 2: and I still question their bullpen. I still think they 334 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 2: need another starter. But they're gonna be good. So that's 335 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 2: why you keep schoobled because you're trying to win. You 336 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 2: don't sign Kyle Finnegan. You don't sign Kenley Jansen unless 337 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 2: you're trying to win. Now, it's like anything else. If 338 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 2: you get the right offer, the right piece is back 339 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 2: that would help you compete this year and beyond, you 340 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 2: do it but what is Serk Scuobel's worth. He's one 341 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 2: of the best pitchers, if not the best pitcher in 342 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 2: the game right now. We just saw Freddy Peralta, a 343 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 2: lesser pitcher, go for two top one hundred prospects. He too, 344 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 2: is a rental like Scooble, so Scooble would command more 345 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 2: than that. He's a back to backside young winner, of course, 346 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:16,679 Speaker 2: And the other part of the equation is you'd have 347 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 2: to take on his thirty two million if it's that 348 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 2: in arbitration for this year. Could be nineteen, could be 349 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 2: thirty two. Maybe we get a better answer for this 350 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:28,360 Speaker 2: after the arbitration case is resolved. Maybe the Tigers are 351 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 2: more motivated if they lose and have to pay him 352 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 2: thirty two million. I don't know, but if that's the 353 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 2: Tiger's thinking, he has less value at thirty two million 354 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:40,159 Speaker 2: than he does at nineteen million, because teams would be 355 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 2: of course having to absorb that salary. 356 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 4: Ken, you wrote an article about Brady Anderson, and you 357 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 4: and I in New York talked about Brady Anderson, and 358 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 4: I told you my one Brady Anderson story, which was 359 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 4: I remember my first Big League spring training. He was 360 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 4: out running in the outfield in only his sliding shorts, which, 361 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:00,880 Speaker 4: by the way, if Brady Anderson and was jacked, by 362 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 4: the way, okay, so I couldn't fault him. But now 363 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 4: he's a hitting coach. But I have heard and people 364 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:09,919 Speaker 4: in the Orioles. He has always been around the Orioles. 365 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 4: I know he was very close with the Angelo's family. 366 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 4: But now it's official he's a hitting coach. Why do 367 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:16,679 Speaker 4: we think he'll succeed as a hitting coach when so 368 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 4: many others have failed. 369 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 2: A j I love saying this to you. You've got 370 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 2: to read the story, and I know you did, so 371 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 2: thank you for that. But the reason people believe that 372 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 2: he will be a successful hitting coach is because he 373 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:32,199 Speaker 2: essentially has been a coach for a long time. He 374 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 2: was with the Orioles from twenty ten to nineteen in 375 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:39,400 Speaker 2: a front office capacity, but that job was kind of undefined, 376 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 2: and that job entailed a lot of coaching. He worked 377 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 2: with the hitting coaches, He threw batting practice, he assisted 378 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 2: with analytics, He ran their strength and conditioning program. He 379 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:53,719 Speaker 2: hosted players in the offseason and helped them train and 380 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:56,679 Speaker 2: help them get better. And there's three examples in the 381 00:18:56,760 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 2: article of players who essentially credit him with helping salvage 382 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:05,160 Speaker 2: their careers. It's Caleb, Joseph, Trey Mancini, and it's Zach 383 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 2: Britton as well. Zach Britton a picture. But yes, Brady 384 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 2: Anderson played a role in his development as well. Now 385 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 2: we'll see how it works out for him as a 386 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 2: full time coach in uniform all the time. But the 387 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 2: players who are with the Orioles during those years, they 388 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 2: swear by him. And I noticed this morning Adam Jones 389 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 2: retweeted the article and he said, Hey, this guy helped 390 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 2: a ton of guys, so that part of it is 391 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 2: not in question. And in fact, the Angels have signed 392 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 2: Trey Mancini to a minor league deal. They're reuniting him 393 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 2: with Anderson seeing if there's anything left still there. So 394 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 2: it's going to be really fascinating to see. Brady Anderson, though, 395 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 2: is a guy that has had an impact on players 396 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 2: as a coach, and that is why the Angels believe 397 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 2: he can have an impact as a full time guy 398 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 2: with them as well. 399 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 1: I think it's funny in the this what kenn. 400 00:19:59,000 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 3: And I talked about. 401 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 4: This Joseph has got one of the greatest stats of 402 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 4: all time Cratzy. He played in forty nine games, one 403 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 4: hundred and thirty two at bats, zero RBIs. He had 404 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 4: an ops plus of thirteen Scott thirteen. That's like the 405 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 4: greatest line. And then he went on and played for 406 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 4: like three more years zero RBIs in one hundred and 407 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:27,399 Speaker 4: forty played appearances. You would think you would run up 408 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 4: there with the guy on third and down by ten 409 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 4: and just hit a ground ball and they'd be like, 410 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 4: we're gonna give him one RBI for the season. It's 411 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 4: one of the craziest stat lines of all time. 412 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 1: RBIs don't matter and he took it to heart, don't 413 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: care about RBIs and he said he was ahead. 414 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 3: Of the curve. 415 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 2: I don't matter. 416 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 4: He was ahead of the curve. 417 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,679 Speaker 1: I'm still going to play after this. The last thing 418 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 1: I want to say on the story Ken was how yes, 419 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:56,120 Speaker 1: there was pretty significant shade and smack talk about him 420 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:59,719 Speaker 1: after the Oriel situation. It was interesting to see how 421 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 1: they're some retraction there based on hurt feelings and who 422 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,679 Speaker 1: was doing what job. But it didn't have to do 423 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: as much with the character and the coaching. It had 424 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:12,640 Speaker 1: more to do with the politics within. The whole thing 425 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 1: is that a good way to phrase it. 426 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,159 Speaker 2: Yes, and Scott I wrote that story too. That was 427 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 2: back in twenty seventeen. And one of the reasons I 428 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:24,919 Speaker 2: was so compelled to write this one was that in 429 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:28,400 Speaker 2: twenty sixteen, the Oriols pitching coach was Dave Wallace. Their 430 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 2: bullpen coach was Dom Cheaty, and they were two guys 431 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 2: who after they left the Orioles following that season and 432 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,160 Speaker 2: went to the Braves, both of them did they went 433 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:40,199 Speaker 2: on the record with me about their frustration with Brady 434 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 2: Anderson's vague, undefined role, and their complaint essentially was he 435 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 2: had authority without accountability. He had autonomy without accountability. And 436 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,439 Speaker 2: Dom Cheeddy said at the time, and did Dave Wallace 437 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,679 Speaker 2: as well, that one of the reasons they left was 438 00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 2: because of Brady Anderson. So when the Angels put their together, 439 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 2: I noticed Dom Cheaty was on that staff, So I'm like, WHOA, 440 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 2: He's now going to work with Brady after what happened. 441 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,679 Speaker 2: This was a long article I wrote in twenty seventeen. 442 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 2: I was with Foxsports dot Com at the time, and 443 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 2: there was a lot of tension in that organization about 444 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,479 Speaker 2: Brady's role, even though he was helping guys. There were 445 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 2: some other things going on. So I asked Dom Cheaty, Hey, 446 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 2: what happened here? Why you guys okay now? And he said, listen, 447 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 2: I kind of misspoke. I was frustrated, frustrated with some 448 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:32,679 Speaker 2: other things at the time, and I never really had 449 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 2: a problem with Brady. Guys gonna have differences, you move on, 450 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 2: and I'm excited to work with him again. So that 451 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 2: was an element of it that I thought was interesting. 452 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 2: And it's funny too. Somebody pointed this out to me. 453 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 2: I didn't include it in the article in The Athletic yesterday, 454 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 2: but in this current era of baseball, you do have 455 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 2: guys like Brady in the front office, special assistants who 456 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 2: do work with players. It does happen. It's more common now, 457 00:22:57,920 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 2: So maybe the Oriols were ahead of their time with 458 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,919 Speaker 2: what was at the time perceived as a very weird situation. 459 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 2: I love all of that. 460 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,919 Speaker 1: I remember that story. I loved that story because you 461 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: just want to get inside baseball anyway you can as 462 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 1: a fan, and there was some serious drama going on, 463 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 1: and now you find out that some of it might 464 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: have been frustration. So anyway, check out the article. It's 465 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 1: really good. In the Athletic from Ken. And if you 466 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 1: want to go back in the archives to the twenty 467 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: seventeen piece, it's still up there too. 468 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 2: Ken. Thank you. We'll talk to you. That's in that 469 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 2: other article. The first story is linked in the current 470 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:33,679 Speaker 2: article so you can find it. 471 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,119 Speaker 1: Right so you don't have to do any digging. Yes, AJ, 472 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: two articles. It might take you nine hours with that, 473 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: and AJ, I. 474 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 2: Apologize both or rather long they are AJ reads at 475 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 2: a high school level one screen size. 476 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:49,159 Speaker 4: Then it's too long. 477 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 2: Came. 478 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:50,880 Speaker 4: By the way, I'm very happy you made it home 479 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 4: because the text messages in the panic that were in 480 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 4: the that were noted in your text messages about getting home. 481 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 4: I've never seen anyone panic that about getting out of 482 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 4: New York City. I mean, I'm sorry, Kem, but you 483 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 4: should have got smart like me and just jumped on 484 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 4: the first flight and flew out in the blizzard instead 485 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 4: of waiting for it to come. 486 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:13,919 Speaker 2: Slight overstatement there, AJ, but I would expect nothing less of. 487 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:19,679 Speaker 3: AJ was on the DEAs or whatever it's called, begging 488 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:24,439 Speaker 3: six guys who had personal jets and talking about panic guys, 489 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 3: I need to get out of here. I don't know 490 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 3: what I'm gonna do. How about you, Aj, how about 491 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 3: you Rizzo? How about you? I mean everybody. 492 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 4: I will say I got offered seats by two people, 493 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,400 Speaker 4: by two people on that dis one on is Aaron, and. 494 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:38,919 Speaker 2: Then what happened and I didn't accept. 495 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:39,719 Speaker 4: I didn't accept. 496 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:40,880 Speaker 3: I didn't he. 497 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:44,199 Speaker 2: Didn't accept, but complained that he couldn't accept because he 498 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 2: had to work on our show. Gee. 499 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 4: True, that's true, that's true. 500 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 3: That's your guys. 501 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 1: Next time I know that, I would have said, Aj, 502 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 1: you take the judge plane and you do an exclusive 503 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 1: sit down for three hours to judge from up there 504 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,679 Speaker 1: to down here. We will accept that next time. Okay, 505 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: that just didn't get across the approval desk in time, 506 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 1: But for next time, Ken, we'll catulate it this week. 507 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 2: Good times, Thanks guys. 508 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 1: Very territory also out from yesterday and again on Thursday. 509 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 1: Then you should have Ken back on Friday. Thursday's episode 510 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 1: with Alana. Rizzo will take plenty of your questions and 511 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:19,360 Speaker 1: then