Speaker 1: I Am all in.
Speaker 2: Oh, I am all in with Scott Patterson, an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 1: Everybody, Scott Patterson I Am all In podcast. We are
Speaker 1: gonna discuss episode nine, season five. Emily says hello, Hello,
Speaker 1: really really said hello?
Speaker 3: Good good?
Speaker 1: She said good morning, good afternoon, and good night.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a doozy. This is a real doozy.
Speaker 3: I have like some real thoughts on this one.
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Speaker 1: I want to do Louisville Comic Con June sixteenth, eighteen, Louisville, Kentucky.
Speaker 1: I will be appearing there, so everybody come on down.
Speaker 3: Can't wait to do we get tickets.
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Speaker 1: get tickets. Can't wait to see everybody anyway. Danielle Romo Tarasuit,
Speaker 1: Amy Sugarman, Danielle take us away?
Speaker 3: Does it wait before that really fast?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Does anyone feel like it was super weird when you
Speaker 3: realized it was fall and the pumpkins were out? You know?
Speaker 4: I did think about the pumpkins.
Speaker 5: Usually the pumpkins bother me.
Speaker 6: I feel like last Pumpkins season it really bothered me,
Speaker 6: But I'm okay.
Speaker 5: This time, I feel it's tired.
Speaker 3: I enjoyed it.
Speaker 5: This time it's comforting for me.
Speaker 3: It just threw me because sometimes we're kind of in line.
Speaker 3: Like last fall it was fall, yeah, and now it's
Speaker 3: like really about to be burning hot summer and I'm
Speaker 3: just like.
Speaker 4: This, Oh, you mean our current state.
Speaker 6: It's because we're not taking three four months off, you know,
Speaker 6: to the episodes.
Speaker 1: Right, But that's the hiatus. That's our hiatus.
Speaker 3: Seeing Jackson in that hat and I was just like,
Speaker 3: I'm sweating for him.
Speaker 1: You know, I didn't notice the pumpkins. And there's a
Speaker 1: reason for that, which we'll get into.
Speaker 5: Oh I wonderful get Christmas in July, like for us.
Speaker 3: I wonder boy probably right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we have a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 3: Well, Danielle apologize.
Speaker 5: Oh good.
Speaker 6: This is season five, episode nine, Emily says hello. Air
Speaker 6: date November sixteenth, two thousand and four. Emily stunds Laura
Speaker 6: life with her plans to begin dating, while Rory is
Speaker 6: trying to get her grandparents back together. After joining Lorelie
Speaker 6: for lunch at the Dragonfly, Rory is furious to see
Speaker 6: that Christopher is also there. Loralai tells Luke of the
Speaker 6: lunch and emphasis after it happens, and Luke tries to
Speaker 6: navigate how he feels about it. Jackson is overwhelmed by
Speaker 6: the burdens of his as town selectman, and Suki is
Speaker 6: experiencing mood swings stemming from her pregnancy.
Speaker 3: All I can say is everyone listening, buckle up, because
Speaker 3: I have got so much discussion for this episode.
Speaker 1: Hmm, that's unusual. You never have much to.
Speaker 3: Say Bird Scott, though, I want to know why you
Speaker 3: didn't notice the pumpkins.
Speaker 1: Because I wanted to experience the show in a different
Speaker 1: way because so many people love this show so much,
Speaker 1: they've seen it so many times that they just have
Speaker 1: it on in the background incessantly, you know, twenty four
Speaker 1: to seven, and while they're doing their errands or round
Speaker 1: house or doing laundry or whatever, and they're not watching
Speaker 1: it because they know it's so So I did that
Speaker 1: with this episode. I said, I'm going to put this
Speaker 1: on and just go about.
Speaker 3: My interesting did it? But I that would be hard
Speaker 3: for me because I would miss stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I still got the jokes. I still laugh My
Speaker 1: wife and I were laughing at certain jokes that we
Speaker 1: sort of caught in the background. It still has this
Speaker 1: ability to reach you, yeah, and pull you in. And
Speaker 1: we found ourselves kind of like stopping what we were
Speaker 1: doing and then and I'm not going to say what
Speaker 1: we were doing. I gotta say that in the morning
Speaker 1: and and sort of drift downstairs to the TV.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I watched the scene because there was some funny stuff
Speaker 1: going on.
Speaker 3: I have gold laundry a lot while I'm watching TV,
Speaker 3: and I that that actually works for me. But if
Speaker 3: I'm kind of doing emails and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: I'm like, wait a minute, I need to stop the
Speaker 3: emails and really focus then on what's happening on the
Speaker 3: whatever I'm watching. Right, So did you find it enjoyable?
Speaker 1: I did. It made me happier. I mean that the
Speaker 1: I woke up in a little bit of a mood
Speaker 1: because I didn't. I got to bed really late and
Speaker 1: I had to. You know, I get up earlier automatically
Speaker 1: every morning. But this really gave me a lift. It
Speaker 1: really really did.
Speaker 3: So I wonder if the way you were watching it
Speaker 3: before was just with too much critique, like really really
Speaker 3: watching it to critique it rather than watching it to
Speaker 3: experience it or enjoy it.
Speaker 1: This is why I did this experiment. One must look inward.
Speaker 1: Realized that maybe a critical eye on this show is
Speaker 1: not such a great idea all of the time.
Speaker 3: Look, I'm never mad at it. I like the discussions, but.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like the discussions too, But I just I
Speaker 1: really wanted to try a different way of consuming the show.
Speaker 1: And it really is kind of wonderful.
Speaker 3: Well, let me ask you this because you might not
Speaker 3: have noticed it, but here's my question for you. It
Speaker 3: was so First of all, it's November, right, so you
Speaker 3: probably filmed this October, maybe late September. Hot is heck
Speaker 3: in bird Bank? Right? I noticed there was a breeze
Speaker 3: right when Lower Life sees Jackson, So she kind of
Speaker 3: comes around and she sees Jackson in the opening scene
Speaker 3: they have their conversation. Would that be a fan to
Speaker 3: cool them down?
Speaker 1: I don't maybe, but it was actually a breeze. It's
Speaker 1: hard to have a fan going when you know the
Speaker 1: sound apartment would would protest, right, you know, it would
Speaker 1: be tough.
Speaker 3: I would assume even the wind is tough.
Speaker 1: You don't get a lot of wind in the valley.
Speaker 3: And her hair was a blowing Yeah, you could.
Speaker 1: Could have been could have been a little silent wind machine.
Speaker 3: I mean, she looks good. She looks good. So Jackson
Speaker 3: hates being select man, like he needs to quit. But
Speaker 3: what do you all think?
Speaker 1: Are you missing Taylor a little?
Speaker 5: Just quit Jackson?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I do miss Taylor.
Speaker 3: Missing Taylor.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we're missing Taylor all of.
Speaker 1: His zany antics. I mean, let's just say it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And we didn't even really see him at the town meeting.
Speaker 4: It seems odd, right, he's like hiding out.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's great to see more Jackson. Yay, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree. And he did it. He knocked it out
Speaker 1: of the park for sure. But it's like after a
Speaker 1: while it was like, hmmm, where's Taylor? Yeah, and boy,
Speaker 1: he was deposed and I don't know. Somehow, I I
Speaker 1: somehow formed a pack, a super pack to get money
Speaker 1: raised to get Taylor back in that position.
Speaker 3: I do think that Taylor is better running the town.
Speaker 3: Jackson doesn't like it. He doesn't want to do it, like.
Speaker 4: You need someone who it's like their whole life.
Speaker 3: He doesn't even want to cut the ribbon.
Speaker 7: He doesn't want to he doesn't want to send the meeting,
Speaker 7: he doesn't have the meetings.
Speaker 3: It's like awful.
Speaker 1: I thought he already resigned. I thought he'd resign, and.
Speaker 3: I actually he didn't, but I sort of thought he
Speaker 3: is leading leading to it.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think we had that conversation where it just
Speaker 7: seemed like because he didn't want to do it, I
Speaker 7: think we all just assumed like he was out, but
Speaker 7: he's still going.
Speaker 3: I also noticed cornbread was two fifty nine, which seems
Speaker 3: like a pretty good price.
Speaker 5: Can you use some corn bread right now? Sounds like
Speaker 5: a lot.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of cornbread.
Speaker 3: And I also noticed the in Dosy's window, all those
Speaker 3: those those are nicely painted, you know, corn bread two
Speaker 3: fifty nine signs. I love me the detail.
Speaker 1: He's up all night agonizing over those signs. You know,
Speaker 1: he is.
Speaker 3: Totally they got to be perfectly perpendicular and whatnot. So
Speaker 3: then we get to Suki's and she's she's crying. I
Speaker 3: never noticed until now how bright orange their walls were too.
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, that's not pleasant, right, And she's
Speaker 3: crying over the pile.
Speaker 1: And grant.
Speaker 3: Breaking and it was like an old people.
Speaker 5: I wonder if that was during the time.
Speaker 7: Funny, that's how we like, we're so use of social media,
Speaker 7: but that's how you used to see your headlines. You
Speaker 7: go to the grocery store, see the front page of magazine.
Speaker 3: Yeah, does anyone still subscribe to the magazine? I canceled
Speaker 3: all mine.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I'm not magazine. But there's some stuff like
Speaker 7: La Times where you can't. You can only read like
Speaker 7: three articles a month and then get to pay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of a lot of them you have
Speaker 1: to pay.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Do any of you still get a magazine delivered to
Speaker 3: your house? Oh?
Speaker 7: My god?
Speaker 3: The poor magazine industry.
Speaker 1: Walks up to the house in this day and age.
Speaker 1: We go on, you know, deaf Con three somebody.
Speaker 6: I mean, now I just follow them all on Instagram
Speaker 6: and get my new news that way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Danielle, I want to ask you something, but I
Speaker 3: think it might be a secret. You know your secret?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Can I ask about it?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Scott doesn't know about it, but you can.
Speaker 3: You tell Scott before I tell I think I know?
Speaker 3: Did I tell Scott?
Speaker 1: Do you have a certain glow? Is there a certain glow?
Speaker 3: Is there a certain happening?
Speaker 5: And I have something very much. Oh my god, I
Speaker 5: love it so much.
Speaker 6: I keep like watching Sukie and I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 6: like I get it again.
Speaker 3: That's what I wanted to ask you. Are you just
Speaker 3: like having incidents of just crying for no good reason?
Speaker 6: You know, I'm not really that emotional. I'm gonna be
Speaker 6: honest with you. I've been like very like, I'm surprisingly
Speaker 6: because I heard from so many people that that's a
Speaker 6: thing that you just get super like you can cry
Speaker 6: over I don't know, running out of cereal.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: You're going to have a boy.
Speaker 5: I'm having a boy.
Speaker 4: Do you know that?
Speaker 3: Scott? Did Scott? Did you? Did we tell you that?
Speaker 3: Or did you just figure that out?
Speaker 1: Because you're if you're if it's a girl, you're more
Speaker 1: emotional if you're a boy, and it's actually if it's
Speaker 1: a boy, it's like, you know, the testosterone that you're
Speaker 1: getting me is making you happy.
Speaker 6: So it's weird, right because Scott, you're so you're so
Speaker 6: right because they say with girls you have morning sickness
Speaker 6: and you're emotional because you have more estrogen, but with
Speaker 6: boys you are like, don't have the morning sickness and
Speaker 6: you feel better, and I have totally. I mean, knock
Speaker 6: on wood, I've been so lucky, I've felt great.
Speaker 3: I don't want to now. I want to see what
Speaker 3: Suki has to see if it's correct, if you're.
Speaker 1: See Jackie said I had morning sickness and so emotional
Speaker 1: with a.
Speaker 6: Jackie so our other know you have those outliers too.
Speaker 6: That just totally contradict the you know, the.
Speaker 3: It's a pregnancy fest here on. I am all in
Speaker 3: not only a Suki pregnant, Danielle's pregnant, also pregnant, and.
Speaker 1: I just got elected town select. What's going on?
Speaker 3: So I did want to shout out the set because
Speaker 3: they did do a good job with the set, and
Speaker 3: that there's kids stuff piled up. It looks like the
Speaker 3: home of people with a toddler, do you know what
Speaker 3: I mean?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 3: So that was good. And there's lovely blinds in the windows. Okay, Scott,
Speaker 3: this was my question. I saw people walking by the window.
Speaker 3: So is that a set that faces out? How does
Speaker 3: that work?
Speaker 1: It faces out towards the gazebo.
Speaker 3: Okay, so that's in front of the house, is.
Speaker 1: You can well? I mean it's a little catty corner
Speaker 1: so it's like the gazebo is a little bit off
Speaker 1: to the right with Suki's house.
Speaker 3: So the window does go out.
Speaker 6: Okay, Okay, we saw that in December when we visited
Speaker 6: the set.
Speaker 3: It's pretty rad Okay. So then they move into the
Speaker 3: kitchen and then we get to sort of the meat
Speaker 3: of this conversation. In the Suki calls Sherry Randy at first,
Speaker 3: which was she sounds like us getting names all jacked.
Speaker 3: Who's Kyle? But anyway, uh, and they talk.
Speaker 5: About Kyle the first time we've ever seen him.
Speaker 3: Randy, were like Sherry anyway, So just sort of there,
Speaker 3: it's sort of Lorelei realizes like, wait a minute, I
Speaker 3: haven't talked to Christopher. So we kind of get the
Speaker 3: foreshadowing of like, okay, this is this is gonna happen
Speaker 3: in this episode. Yea. My only other shout out is like, man,
Speaker 3: she's got a lot of crap in that window in
Speaker 3: her kitchen. Oh wow, So any other thoughts, guys.
Speaker 1: No, it's not the same thing. That's a lot of
Speaker 1: crap in them.
Speaker 3: And she's got her pregnancy cravings. Danielle Anita share she
Speaker 3: wanted a lot of weird stuff, chocolate, artichoke, heart, bell pepper, taffy, walnuts,
Speaker 3: hearts of palm.
Speaker 6: Pancakes always sound good, like I'm always down for pancakes.
Speaker 6: I should have gone to Al's Pancake World. But no, like,
Speaker 6: seriously like pancakes like they always sound anything anything.
Speaker 3: Are you allowed to have bacon? Yeah, you can bacon?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean just grind food, just grind food. My
Speaker 1: wife was just pounding food just like that's amazing.
Speaker 3: Are you hungrier than you used to be?
Speaker 6: Yes? But Scott, I have a question for you because
Speaker 6: my husband is just so bent out of shape because
Speaker 6: he's like, I'm gaining more weight than you this pregnancy
Speaker 6: because he like he swears he has cravings, which he does.
Speaker 6: Like it's weird, but they say that sometimes the husband
Speaker 6: can like I don't know, feel it too.
Speaker 5: Did you ever have that?
Speaker 1: I mean I eat a lot anyway.
Speaker 5: Really, she just matched you, She just madged you right.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I mean she was eating the same amount
Speaker 1: of food I was eating, which is I eat an
Speaker 1: extraordinary amount of food and I burn it off. But
Speaker 1: now it's it's getting tall.
Speaker 3: Are you six two No.
Speaker 1: I'm six feet six foot and a half.
Speaker 5: You're taller than that.
Speaker 3: Taller when you were Luke.
Speaker 1: Six. Life has chopped post. I've lost wede and lost
Speaker 1: lost hair. Oh my god, No, but yeah, I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's he's having sympathy appetite. Yeah, sure, he wants to
Speaker 1: eat along with you. He's happy too, He's everybody's getting
Speaker 1: fat and happy. Man.
Speaker 5: That was good about pancakes and ice cream and cookies.
Speaker 3: All the things.
Speaker 1: When I when I realized when my wife said she's
Speaker 1: pregnant and that we knew it was a boy, it
Speaker 1: was just like, there's nothing better.
Speaker 5: I agree.
Speaker 1: You know that you go through your life wondering what
Speaker 1: the meaning of life is, and this is it? Figured
Speaker 1: it out? After you have this boy, you'll know what
Speaker 1: the meaning of life is and how deeply you're capable
Speaker 1: of loving something, and it's it's.
Speaker 6: I mean, if you can just match the love I
Speaker 6: have for my dog, I can only imagine it willed that.
Speaker 3: Oh you're gonna name that boy, Dean Jess Logan. I'm
Speaker 3: just wondering none of the above.
Speaker 4: Do you have a name though?
Speaker 5: No, I don't not yet, all right.
Speaker 3: So keeping us on track here, So we go to
Speaker 3: the dorm and Rory's reading and pair of of course,
Speaker 3: attacks her reading speed, which did leave for a funny joke.
Speaker 3: She's all, if you'd read faster, Paris is fasting for Ramadan.
Speaker 3: I did notice the sunset very early for thirty one,
Speaker 3: but maybe accurate for the East coast in November, so
Speaker 3: good on.
Speaker 5: That's when time changes. And you know when the time
Speaker 5: changes like.
Speaker 6: That those first two three weeks, like it's lights out
Speaker 6: by four to forty five.
Speaker 3: Rory's got good hair, good sweater vest, and then we
Speaker 3: see Marty at the door, so we're sort of like, hmm,
Speaker 3: what's going on with Marty and Rory in this episode.
Speaker 6: I've said it before and I will say it again.
Speaker 6: I really wish Marty happened. I know it doesn't happen,
Speaker 6: but I really wish it happened.
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, I didn't know that.
Speaker 5: Well, we know it's Logan. We know Logan's you know,
Speaker 5: you don't know.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen it yet.
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe I may have a night of passion and
Speaker 3: you don't know.
Speaker 5: That, you know what, I hope. So I'm I'm pulling
Speaker 5: through for so hard right now.
Speaker 3: I like him a lot, and you can tell we'll
Speaker 3: get to it, but you can tell he likes her.
Speaker 5: Totally.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so uh, I kind of agree.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't mind a one hookup with.
Speaker 6: Ma I like it because he's like not Logan where
Speaker 6: he's like the richest, coolest person ever, but he's still
Speaker 6: at Yale and he's still you know, he like I
Speaker 6: don't know, I just I like him.
Speaker 4: I don't need them to be in a relationship, maybe
Speaker 4: just like a fling.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: It just feels to me, and come at me for
Speaker 3: this that the Marty Rory relationship would be very similar
Speaker 3: to the Dean Rory relationship. Yes, Marty's at Yale and
Speaker 3: he's very smart and they could have excellent conversations.
Speaker 1: Oh, I see what you mean.
Speaker 3: It's like not going to give her a challenge that
Speaker 3: could be a bad thing a good thing.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, well, what do they say? What's the
Speaker 1: old line about the man should the man should worship
Speaker 1: the woman and on a pedestal and the woman should
Speaker 1: admire the band, right for that to work?
Speaker 3: But yeah, there's no truth to that.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Oh, but I wanted to eat his appetizers and go
Speaker 3: to the brunch that he was bartending with chocolate fountains,
Speaker 3: and I sort of assumed it was logans like I
Speaker 3: sort of are we supposed to assume that?
Speaker 4: I don't know, but I can see why you thought
Speaker 4: that though.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it seems like it was one of those those
Speaker 3: guys Colin or Finn or.
Speaker 1: Who I like Marty too. It was good seeing him
Speaker 1: and I liked him in this episode, and I do
Speaker 1: wish she would give it a shot. I agree with you, Daniel,
Speaker 1: because that was as a tough way to be rejected.
Speaker 1: Just she fell asleep, right, So it was like an
Speaker 1: unintentional rejection. But that's Marty. That defines Marty.
Speaker 3: It's also sort of sweet that she's so comfortable there,
Speaker 3: that they're in the bed together. She's very comfortable with it.
Speaker 1: I think that's the point. That's why it would last,
Speaker 1: you know, and that's why she would probably be bored.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well then we have one of my favorite scenes.
Speaker 3: So Loralai is talking to Rory on the phone at
Speaker 3: Luke's saying she's allowed to go behind the counter and
Speaker 3: talk on the phone. And for me, I obviously want
Speaker 3: to talk about the thing, but I just love that
Speaker 3: she's all, oh, you're all loopholeye and so coffy or whatever.
Speaker 3: So I just thought the loophole thing and her bragging
Speaker 3: about the loophole and then really he's like, no, a
Speaker 3: sack of potatoes could fall on your head. So I
Speaker 3: just find them to be so enjoyable, even when you
Speaker 3: were like hey aggressively Hey, like, and it's not like
Speaker 3: he's so he loves her, right, but Luke isn't like
Speaker 3: just letting her go behind the counter and talk on
Speaker 3: the phone all day, like she runs the place. And
Speaker 3: I sort of like that too.
Speaker 1: Right, those lines were looped. You could tell they.
Speaker 3: Were because the hey was kind of random. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: they were. The loop lines were looped.
Speaker 1: Yes, not not hers, I don't think hers.
Speaker 3: But hey, your hey did seem and if.
Speaker 1: Hers were loops, she did a much better looping session
Speaker 1: than I did.
Speaker 3: I just love that she's like, oh, it's like you're
Speaker 3: wearing his letterman jacket at the Soka and she's I
Speaker 3: don't know. I just loved the whole thing, right.
Speaker 1: It was a nice, comfortable vibe, you know, relationship y vibe. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was nice.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Just I think everyone always wants us to talk
Speaker 3: about Luke and Laureli more, and my thing is like
Speaker 3: they're just so pleasant. Now, Yes, this episode we will
Speaker 3: get into who was right and who was wrong and
Speaker 3: all that jazz. But they're just so pleasant and likable
Speaker 3: and perfect and great chemistry that it's like there's no criticism.
Speaker 1: They're just great, and so we can't talk about it
Speaker 1: unless we criticize. Seems like we should just we should
Speaker 1: have the ability to do that.
Speaker 3: I mean, what does everybody think? How is everyone feeling
Speaker 3: about Luke and laurel.
Speaker 1: I I think they I think they're a great couple.
Speaker 1: I think they're really comfortable with each other. I think
Speaker 1: they're both very happy for the time being. And he's
Speaker 1: on cloud nine, but he's not letting it show so much.
Speaker 1: He's playing it cool again. And I think he just
Speaker 1: feels like his life is where he wants it to be.
Speaker 1: He's comfortable. This is what he's always wanted. So he's
Speaker 1: got his diner, he's got his he's got as woman,
Speaker 1: and and he's happy as a clan. That's as happy
Speaker 1: as he's gonna he's he can be. And that's pretty good,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 7: I think for the first time, we're watching and it
Speaker 7: just feels like so natural, Like Lorelai doesn't seem like
Speaker 7: forced into not force into a relationship but like it
Speaker 7: just when they pop up on the screen, you're just like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 7: they're together. Like it's just nice, happy scenes.
Speaker 1: It feels free and easy, doesn't it. Yeah, there's a
Speaker 1: breeziness to it, Yes to it.
Speaker 3: It's easiness.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that's really it's unfair to the
Speaker 1: guest actors that come on, you know, because I have
Speaker 1: so much more time with her on screen. I have
Speaker 1: so much more time to get used to her as
Speaker 1: an actress and work with her and be with her,
Speaker 1: so of course our scenes are going to be easier
Speaker 1: and breezier and that kind of thing. So when somebody
Speaker 1: comes on as a guest star to be the boyfriend
Speaker 1: or a Scott Cohen or whoever it is, they do
Speaker 1: a great job. But it's you know, it does it
Speaker 1: does show that after five seasons. How what an advantage
Speaker 1: that is for two actors to really because we just
Speaker 1: sort of have a sixth sense about our timing, you
Speaker 1: know each other's timing and our you know, how we
Speaker 1: move within a scene of this kind of thing. So
Speaker 1: it's it's and plus we've spent all that time on
Speaker 1: that set and we know where everything is, so it
Speaker 1: really feels like we're occupying that space and really truly
Speaker 1: living in that space as if I own it and
Speaker 1: I know it really well. One of the interesting things
Speaker 1: about street Car named Desire when it was on Broadway,
Speaker 1: Marlon Brando insisted on living on that set for three
Speaker 1: four days, sleeping there, just getting to know it so
Speaker 1: it would be really familiar to him. And that's what
Speaker 1: I think. That's the advantage Laura and I had, And
Speaker 1: that's you know.
Speaker 3: I think on that same tion that really that's very
Speaker 3: interesting because you're also regularly working with these writers directors
Speaker 3: scripty number scripty we haven't mentioned script whereas the other
Speaker 3: person is a newcomer, so you have a comfort level
Speaker 3: so beyond anyone that has come in to be the boyfriend.
Speaker 1: Right. Plus, I'm here, I am working with this this
Speaker 1: marvelous actress, right, and there's total trust. We trust each
Speaker 1: other very much. It's like that, you know, the trust
Speaker 1: us fall back and I'll catch you. It's like we
Speaker 1: can go as far out on the on the wire
Speaker 1: as possible. I mean, I know she's gonna catch me.
Speaker 1: She knows I'm gonna catch her, so she can just
Speaker 1: do her thing and she can trust that I'm going
Speaker 1: to wait, wait, wait til the last minute, boom and
Speaker 1: I'll be there and vice versa. So it's really it
Speaker 1: really makes for a very comfortable, easy, relaxed feeling. And
Speaker 1: that's what I that's one of the scenes I actually
Speaker 1: did focus on her watch and why that's nice, Yeah, breezy,
Speaker 1: and it's just well lived scene.
Speaker 3: Yes, I totally agree. So we do get Rory's idea
Speaker 3: here where she's like, she really wants to get these
Speaker 3: two back together, Richard and Emily, So she's gonna go
Speaker 3: with Richard and Laura is going to go with Emily
Speaker 3: and sort of one on one it and try and
Speaker 3: start the process of getting them back together. So we
Speaker 3: kind of get that gist. We then also see t
Speaker 3: J come come in and his workout gear because he
Speaker 3: needs to power and did anybody notice he's wearing the
Speaker 3: soap around his neck. No, guys, you don't have to
Speaker 3: go back and watch. He's fully like, got soap on
Speaker 3: a rope around his neck, ready to shower. T J
Speaker 3: just wins.
Speaker 5: He just wins every time he's on the screen, no question.
Speaker 3: The coffee's bitter, he tells you, your coffee is bitter.
Speaker 3: Your coffee, how dare he is.
Speaker 1: Take takes a pastry. I'm just.
Speaker 3: So good.
Speaker 1: And and that's and here's another thing. He wasn't there
Speaker 1: a lot. And and look how well he uses that space. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean behind, he grabs the coffee, grabs the pastry.
Speaker 1: It's not easy to do, to talk and to move,
Speaker 1: and to use props that you're not familiar with, that
Speaker 1: you haven't lived with. And he's just so.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think great.
Speaker 1: I think he's I think he's a genius. I think
Speaker 1: he's a he's a comedic genius.
Speaker 3: And in the same note, we sort of have a
Speaker 3: similar I'm sort of comparing Michelle in Essen to TJ
Speaker 3: in that Michelle sort of steals the scenes. He's in
Speaker 3: two with his sort of way, you know. So he says, LAURAAI,
Speaker 3: we need to talk, and the bathroom I'm sorry, the
Speaker 3: bathroom bandits are here and he you know, so that
Speaker 3: whole bit. I kind of think it's funny too, and
Speaker 3: it becomes that running gag throughout the episode.
Speaker 1: M h. We're not seeing a lot of Michelle, No,
Speaker 1: but I.
Speaker 3: Think he's always amazing in what he's in.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he's killing It's almost like the cast is
Speaker 1: so big, Like think about it.
Speaker 3: Friends has six people, right, just six people. The Gilmore
Speaker 3: cast of regulars is huge.
Speaker 1: It's I don't know, it's huge. The regulars are eight
Speaker 1: nine maybe.
Speaker 3: Yeah, But then you have this set.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of recurring characters.
Speaker 3: Yeah, whereas on Friends, like there you know people recurred
Speaker 3: like whatever, Paul Rud's in this many episodes or whoever's
Speaker 3: in this many but it's like here, you've got these
Speaker 3: people that recurred throughout all seven seasons and into.
Speaker 1: The movies cast of thousands.
Speaker 3: So okay. Then we get Laura Lai calling Christopher and
Speaker 3: immediately he's freaked out, which I thought was acted well
Speaker 3: and like true to where how you would be if
Speaker 3: your kid tells you don't talk to her and you're
Speaker 3: trying to do what your kid wants and he's just
Speaker 3: so and then he kind of he's like you see
Speaker 3: him resisting, resisting, resisting, it's all awkward, and then he
Speaker 3: sort of just caves, and he's like kind of just caves,
Speaker 3: and suddenly they're back to talking a bit more normally,
Speaker 3: and she says come for lunch and he says yes.
Speaker 3: First question to debate, he have said yes to lunch sure.
Speaker 1: Otherwise, Yeah, there wouldn't have been as rich an episode.
Speaker 6: I think I think, yes, he should have called Rory
Speaker 6: and just said, hey, your mom wants to get dinner
Speaker 6: lunch with me.
Speaker 5: You know, I would love.
Speaker 6: For you to be there, you know, like he because
Speaker 6: he kind of was knew what he was doing. Rory
Speaker 6: wouldn't like so he didn't say anything to her, right.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 6: And and Rory does call him out at lunch when
Speaker 6: when he says like, I didn't know, you knew, and
Speaker 6: you know, like all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: And I'm also glad she told Loralai about the conversations. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I didn't feel like it was in a three S
Speaker 3: company episode. You know. I always complained about that. It's like,
Speaker 3: please don't put me in the one with the misunderstanding.
Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, let me tell these people right away
Speaker 3: what the heck is going on.
Speaker 1: I feel terrible for Rory.
Speaker 3: Oh interesting, Scott, sorry, Tarist, So Scott, I want to
Speaker 3: dig into that. So Scott Scott said he feels terrible
Speaker 3: for long too.
Speaker 1: It's like now the chickens are coming home to roost.
Speaker 1: This is this is why these are the complications from
Speaker 1: divorce for divorce kids, you know, and this is sort
Speaker 1: of a light version of extremely light version of what
Speaker 1: a divorced kid experiences. And it's just it's awful to
Speaker 1: see Rory in the middle of this and now her
Speaker 1: her whole psychology and her her emotional life is getting
Speaker 1: twisted around and wrapped around this, you know, this this situation.
Speaker 1: And you know, she even imagine going to your dad
Speaker 1: and saying, stay away from because you I mean, just
Speaker 1: it's it's really that scene was really like her telling
Speaker 1: her dad to get out of her life too. I agree,
Speaker 1: because it's as much she has as much skin in
Speaker 1: the game, uh, to see her mother happy and to
Speaker 1: see herself happy, because her mother's happiness is her happiness.
Speaker 1: And I liked that she was to end Luke and
Speaker 1: knowing that, you know, she was saying that Luke's a
Speaker 1: good man, He's good for my mom, you know, and
Speaker 1: stay away. So in that she's so much like her mother, right,
Speaker 1: and she sees the value in that. So, you know,
Speaker 1: we discussed last episode whether she's you know, she's tend
Speaker 1: trending towards you know, gilmore wealth or or you know
Speaker 1: what her margin star right stars hollow community and you know,
Speaker 1: all of the things that make a community function well
Speaker 1: and tight knit and supporting each other and all those
Speaker 1: great values and so on the one hand, I was,
Speaker 1: I was, I was pleasantly surprised by how Rory was,
Speaker 1: you know, trying to take charge of the situation. It
Speaker 1: showed growth for me, it showed maturity. She was, you know,
Speaker 1: trying to sort of, you know, keep her life on
Speaker 1: a certain path and do what was good for her
Speaker 1: mother and for herself. At the same time sad that
Speaker 1: she had to be put in that situation, that she.
Speaker 3: Had to get it painful, and it was painful for
Speaker 3: Christopher and then ultimately painful for Lorlaia. Before I have
Speaker 3: another question, Tara, what did you want to say.
Speaker 7: Going back to your question of should he have said yes?
Speaker 7: I was thinking he only said yes because.
Speaker 4: It was at the inn.
Speaker 3: Oh. Interesting, That's how I took it.
Speaker 7: I took it as because it was at the inn,
Speaker 7: and it's at her place of work. It's not like
Speaker 7: he's going over to the house, which I think would
Speaker 7: have been a completely different situation. And I also think
Speaker 7: and I totally agree with with what Scott said, but
Speaker 7: also as someone who I'm not a child of divorce,
Speaker 7: So maybe I don't understand that part of it. And
Speaker 7: I was very lucky to have both my parents. I mean,
Speaker 7: they're still together.
Speaker 4: They just celebrated their thirty eighth anniversary. But I kind
Speaker 4: of didn't really agree with the way that Rory handled it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna ask you guys that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so I I complete, I completely agreed with you
Speaker 6: until I saw Christopher and Laura I look at each
Speaker 6: other at lunch, okay, and when they looked at each other,
Speaker 6: I was like, m Rory has a point, you know,
Speaker 6: like she does have a point.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought the same. I actually even made a
Speaker 3: note on the phone call. If you watch it back,
Speaker 3: she's almost flirty with it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was gonna say, you know, and I want
Speaker 1: to be very careful how I say this, but Rory knows,
Speaker 1: does Okay, let me ask you guys, let me let me,
Speaker 1: let me turn the tableshe.
Speaker 3: I think I know what you're gonna say.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Do you think Rory knows that both her parents
Speaker 1: are weak? Yeah, in a sense that they can't resist
Speaker 1: each other.
Speaker 3: Right, It's almost like Rory knows her mother, and that's
Speaker 3: it's not just Rory knows Christopher that he comes in
Speaker 3: and screws it up. It's that Rory knows her mother.
Speaker 3: Now all for good, right, Like these people have this
Speaker 3: incredible connection, and they have a daughter together, they will
Speaker 3: always be so connected. But I think, Scott, what you
Speaker 3: were alluding to and I sort of got like your
Speaker 3: brainwave is like she knows her mother. So she's sort
Speaker 3: of trying to stop it from Christopher because Laura, I
Speaker 3: can't stop herself.
Speaker 1: Because she because maybe Rory knows that Christopher is the
Speaker 1: weaker one and that he will allow himself to be
Speaker 1: sucked back in because he's now getting into a situation
Speaker 1: where he's going to step back in. I mean his
Speaker 1: his wife has left him right and with the baby
Speaker 1: and she's gone, and now she knows that Christopher's his
Speaker 1: default setting is coming back to Laura.
Speaker 3: Well, and I guess the question is I understand why
Speaker 3: Rory did what she did. I sort of wish there
Speaker 3: was a better way to handle it, but thought I.
Speaker 1: Thought it showed great presence of mind and great bravery
Speaker 1: and maturity to go to your other and say I
Speaker 1: know what you are and I've accepted it, and now
Speaker 1: I'm making a stand and you're gonna and she's protecting
Speaker 1: her own mother.
Speaker 3: I thought, what about it takes two to tango. The
Speaker 3: fault is not all in Christopher, even though Rory essentially
Speaker 3: is putting all the fault in Christopher.
Speaker 1: So she should go to Laura and say stay away
Speaker 1: from Christopher or else well, or or else or else.
Speaker 1: I'm going to get a b I'll show you. I'll
Speaker 1: got to be in sociology, I'll show you.
Speaker 3: Go ahead.
Speaker 7: I think she should have told Laurai that she had
Speaker 7: that conversation with her dad, like I think that leaving
Speaker 7: them both out of it, like you can't talk to Laura,
Speaker 7: I but Laura has no idea what's happening, and then
Speaker 7: Laura is left in the middle of just like I.
Speaker 1: But I think if she's she's in a way trying
Speaker 1: to rebuild trust with her own father by making this
Speaker 1: demand on him. And if she can trust him with this,
Speaker 1: if he complies and it goes on for a time,
Speaker 1: then she will have the power. She's just taking the
Speaker 1: power away from him, and that.
Speaker 3: Shows the right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so if she can so if he stays away
Speaker 1: for a period of time, then she can go back
Speaker 1: and she can continue to dictate terms, And that shows
Speaker 1: that that that she now trusts him a little more
Speaker 1: so she is it's like you're a dog. I got
Speaker 1: to put you on my leash because my mother won't
Speaker 1: do it, so I'm taking it.
Speaker 3: But basically it shows she doesn't really trust either of them,
Speaker 3: not with each other, right Like, because say Christopher would
Speaker 3: have said, you know what, Rory, like, I love you,
Speaker 3: I'll always love your mother, but I'm not going to
Speaker 3: mess up her relationship with Luke. Let's all be a family,
Speaker 3: you know, in that sense when we when we need
Speaker 3: to be, your mom and I are connected, Rory would
Speaker 3: have been like, I don't trust you. Now. How come
Speaker 3: Lorelai doesn't have the ability to say I can be
Speaker 3: perfectly capable of a friendship with your father that doesn't
Speaker 3: cross the wine because she can't.
Speaker 6: And that's why I think actually she's the weaker one
Speaker 6: versus Christopher. Like Christopher comes in, screws things up, gets out,
Speaker 6: the circle goes on and on and on, but Laurel
Speaker 6: is the one that always falls for it every single time.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I really I kind of trust Laurela
Speaker 1: in this one.
Speaker 3: I don't know, already flirting with him on the phone,
Speaker 3: not that she's like a cheater, cheater, pumpkin eater.
Speaker 5: But it's like he has a spell over her, that's
Speaker 5: for sure.
Speaker 3: Well, and let's get to this debate.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 3: So let's debate this before I know we need to
Speaker 3: go back.
Speaker 1: Because he can get so whiny and so ineffectual. You
Speaker 1: think that's like a turn on for her. I don't
Speaker 1: get it.
Speaker 4: I think it's just that it was her first love.
Speaker 3: I think charming as heck. You guys, he's charming as heck.
Speaker 3: So Okay, we still have to dig into the dinner
Speaker 3: with Richard and Emily, but let's put a pin in
Speaker 3: that and debate this. Did Laurel Ie the right thing
Speaker 3: by inviting Christopher to launch number two? Should she have
Speaker 3: told Luke ahead of time, like what is the right
Speaker 3: way to be here? And I don't know the answer.
Speaker 3: Because it is Rory's dad, she needs to be able
Speaker 3: to communicate with him.
Speaker 1: I don't think that that are Luke and Laurel I
Speaker 1: at the stage of their relationship where it's so committed
Speaker 1: and so etched in stone that there's an inevitable engagement
Speaker 1: where Laurel I feels like she has to ask Luke
Speaker 1: permission for to see her.
Speaker 3: I don't think she does.
Speaker 5: She doesn't have to ask for permission.
Speaker 6: I think she does, think she needs to give the
Speaker 6: courteous Hey, by the way, I'm doing this like, you know, but.
Speaker 3: I actually disagree. I'm going to go out on a
Speaker 3: limb here. I actually think Luke and Laura Lai are
Speaker 3: so tight and so together. Right, Yes, they went from
Speaker 3: zero to one hundred, but that's because they had seven
Speaker 3: years of friendship or whatever, nine years of friendship, whatever
Speaker 3: it is. I forget the map that Luke should assume
Speaker 3: Laura Lai will have conversations and times when she sees
Speaker 3: Rory's father, And I think that is the point why
Speaker 3: he reiterates it twice. I'm cool with it because they
Speaker 3: can't exist as a couple if he isn't cool with that.
Speaker 6: I agree with that, but I still go back to
Speaker 6: it's not permission. It's more like, hey, I'm doing this,
Speaker 6: you know, like she doesn't need to ask for permission
Speaker 6: to talk to her.
Speaker 1: Not asking permission directly, just sort of say, you know,
Speaker 1: to let him know.
Speaker 3: I mean, so, should she have given heads up, like so,
Speaker 3: say she invites Christopher to lunch, you know.
Speaker 1: What would be, it would be the considerate thing to do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so she should have sort of given him heads up. Hey,
Speaker 3: just so so you know tomorrow, Christopher's coming by the
Speaker 3: end with Gigi to see it, and you know, we're
Speaker 3: going to catch up over lunch and you know, talk
Speaker 3: about Rory.
Speaker 6: And then I don't think if Rory didn't call her out,
Speaker 6: you know, call her out on it.
Speaker 5: I don't think she would have said anything.
Speaker 3: That's the problem. Yeah, that's where the red flag was
Speaker 3: in that she was like, first of all, she lied,
Speaker 3: she says to Rory, Oh, he's fine with it. Yeah.
Speaker 7: So it took me a second because I was like,
Speaker 7: did we miss a scene where she like I literally
Speaker 7: went back and I.
Speaker 6: Say, that's exactly when you found out that Laurai did
Speaker 6: something wrong.
Speaker 3: You know, like we know it again because she says
Speaker 3: to Suki. Suki asked her, well, what did Luke say?
Speaker 3: She lied to her kid, and and sort of they
Speaker 3: address is there really a weird reason you didn't tell Luke?
Speaker 3: And it's like, why didn't she tell him?
Speaker 7: I think she's so and this is just in her
Speaker 7: life in general. I think Laurlai is so afraid of
Speaker 7: conflict and so she just tries to dodge around all
Speaker 7: these things so she doesn't have to have these conversations
Speaker 7: when it was so easy, like Luke was just like okay,
Speaker 7: Like he didn't push back, he didn't say anything.
Speaker 2: And.
Speaker 3: Scott, you tell me how you feel, because I thought
Speaker 3: on his first okay, it was actually I'm kind of
Speaker 3: butt hurt by this.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: The second one at the car, I was like, he's
Speaker 3: had time to process this, and that one he actually.
Speaker 5: Is okay, Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 3: The first one seemed to me like you said ok
Speaker 3: because because he's not an asshole. Oh sorry, I love
Speaker 3: to say that.
Speaker 5: He was like okay, as in I'm digesting this information.
Speaker 6: I don't know how i feel about it yet, love me.
Speaker 5: And then he talks to oh my god, why am
Speaker 5: I blanking the name TJ TJ? Yeah, he literally almost
Speaker 5: from Bards.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't know from Scott, like how did all of
Speaker 3: that land on you? How did it land on you?
Speaker 3: When she tells you after the fact, then you you
Speaker 3: obviously are kind of something about it. I don't know
Speaker 3: if you're bothered by it or if you're shuddled by it,
Speaker 3: or if you're trying to figure it out.
Speaker 1: I think any guy would be we have a little
Speaker 1: bit of a problem with it.
Speaker 3: And then what do you feel when he says it right? Right,
Speaker 3: not a huge problem because.
Speaker 1: It's not a huge problem, but it's like almost like, gosh,
Speaker 1: I wish you would have told me, you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: because you know he could see he could see her
Speaker 1: fumbling around and she was getting to something and being awkward, and.
Speaker 5: Because you know, Luke would tell.
Speaker 4: Lorlai, yeah you would.
Speaker 3: I think, yes, he would. I think you're right. I doish, although, but.
Speaker 1: A lot of trust issues being addressed in this episode mother.
Speaker 3: Well, and then Scott, how did you feel at the
Speaker 3: second time when she gets out of the car and
Speaker 3: she wants you know, it's very cute you have that
Speaker 3: very romantic kiss and you can't stay over and she
Speaker 3: wants you to. They're obviously totally good, right, he knows
Speaker 3: they're good. They're good, And then he says it again.
Speaker 6: That kiss, by the way, was very That was something
Speaker 6: I was like, whoa, Okay, guys.
Speaker 1: When the passion is really there, yeah, no, totally agree, Like,
Speaker 1: you know, when the passion's really there and you're really
Speaker 1: yearning in the beginning of a relationship or even in
Speaker 1: the in the first third of your relationship. I mean,
Speaker 1: when things are still exciting and you're really yearning for
Speaker 1: that person and thinking about that person all the time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a little bit of fear that something could derail it,
Speaker 1: and you're I think a little extra, you know, you're
Speaker 1: just sort of on watch.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, any.
Speaker 1: Any sort of normal things. I mean, if there were
Speaker 1: five years in and hey, you know, if I didn't
Speaker 1: tell you what I had lunch, you know whatever, it's like, well,
Speaker 1: big deal. But at the beginning, it's it's a little tough,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I acted appropriately and and and and listen. It's like
Speaker 1: he had to get that feeling be on a date
Speaker 1: with her, fall deeper deeper in love, have that time
Speaker 1: with her to know that things were progressing and even
Speaker 1: getting better. So he felt relieved, right, So that's why
Speaker 1: he said, Yeah.
Speaker 3: That's the right way to say. You could see it
Speaker 3: in his body language. He felt relieved knowing his date
Speaker 3: is great, we're good, we're super solid. I'm walking to
Speaker 3: the car.
Speaker 1: And if he feels a little distance and she's acting
Speaker 1: funny and she's not herself, then he drops her off
Speaker 1: and goes, hey, what what's going on, you know, because guys,
Speaker 1: now you can tell, you can just tell.
Speaker 3: Now before we get to Richard and Emily, which I
Speaker 3: really wanted to get into, can we please talk about
Speaker 3: the fakest baby?
Speaker 5: Oh my god, thank god, I'm so happy you brought
Speaker 5: it up.
Speaker 1: It was a.
Speaker 6: Picture you talking about, gig right, Yes, okay.
Speaker 3: It wasn't even almost disturbing.
Speaker 6: There was times where there was not even a rubber
Speaker 6: baby in.
Speaker 3: The little to see the cheerios, the weird cheers. Oh
Speaker 3: my god. Okay, first of all, did you guys see
Speaker 3: so for everyone listening, obviously we all have a group text, right,
Speaker 3: and it's it's a live it's a strong group.
Speaker 5: TeX's a lie.
Speaker 3: So I was watching this a few nights ago. I
Speaker 3: like to get ahead, right, and I had to put
Speaker 3: it into the group text, a photo of the baby.
Speaker 3: And what did Scott? Right back, Scott, you wrote something
Speaker 3: so epic. You're like, that's the most frightening thing I've
Speaker 3: ever seen. Like it was the rubberst rubber baby we've
Speaker 3: ever seen. It was like, and then did you see
Speaker 3: the weird hand At one point there's one part where
Speaker 3: I still think it's a fake baby.
Speaker 5: Oh god, I'm just seeing these screenshots. I didn't I
Speaker 5: didn't know.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I don't know if Jackie can pull
Speaker 3: up the scene with the fakest baby. Then it went real,
Speaker 3: so it was more jarring because then there's like three
Speaker 3: shots where it's the real baby, but there's one you guys.
Speaker 8: There's three shots where there's no baby, but there's one
Speaker 8: other you guys have to watch it, Jackie, I don't
Speaker 8: mean to like throw you like a curveball the baby.
Speaker 3: You see just the baby arm and it's clearly the
Speaker 3: rubber baby and the arm. Let me, let me reenact
Speaker 3: it so you'd be seeing just my weird fake rubber
Speaker 3: baby head and then you just see an arm. Oh wait,
Speaker 3: I think I can do like this er er and
Speaker 3: I'm like and like, no baby, no baby in the
Speaker 3: history of the universe has ever moved their hand like that.
Speaker 6: It was goble Oh my god. But I just was like,
Speaker 6: what jarred me the most was the just lack of child.
Speaker 5: In the first show.
Speaker 3: They can afford to build scaffolding that people jump off
Speaker 3: of with umbrellas, they can't afford to just Okay, first
Speaker 3: of all, guys, what I want everybody to do is
Speaker 3: go back and watch is.
Speaker 1: A lifeless looking back of the head.
Speaker 3: It is so bad. And then they're sort of talking
Speaker 3: and you can tell they've removed the look.
Speaker 1: That look.
Speaker 3: I know they like each other. But then wait for
Speaker 3: the hand, the fake hand. You guys, everybody has to
Speaker 3: go rewatch this. We're at twenty two minutes in something
Speaker 3: like that. Okay, just you can let it roll, Jackie,
Speaker 3: just let it roll because the fakeness is so strong.
Speaker 3: Wait till the arm.
Speaker 5: And then for everyone, this is around the twenty two
Speaker 5: minute mark.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So, and by the way, okay, first of all, there's
Speaker 3: just the cher seat with just weird fruits or cheerios. Okay,
Speaker 3: no baby here comes in Rory, she's all mad that
Speaker 3: Christopher's there. And then it's a real, real baby. He's
Speaker 3: a lie and the baby. Okay, guys, what is the
Speaker 3: time code there?
Speaker 4: No, it moves, oh.
Speaker 5: The heads to a real baby.
Speaker 7: No, there's no ways a fake baby.
Speaker 5: Baby, that's real.
Speaker 1: Baby.
Speaker 3: I'm telling you that round is so fake.
Speaker 5: No, that's real.
Speaker 4: No, it's real. The way it's not real turns the
Speaker 4: way that turns it has to baby.
Speaker 5: No baby, Yeah, that's real, that's real.
Speaker 3: Then there's a different part. There's a different part. Humm,
Speaker 3: no baby, no baby.
Speaker 1: The rubber baby's head looks larger than the real baby's head. Huh.
Speaker 3: How about just the baby's gone and then Laura's talking
Speaker 3: to the baby that's not there, So good, Okay, baby's gone.
Speaker 3: Then there's the Oh my god, you guys, I'm sorry they.
Speaker 4: Made it like a tighter shot. It would have been
Speaker 4: less of it.
Speaker 3: Well, just why even show that weird part of the
Speaker 3: the high chair or the high.
Speaker 1: Chair because they didn't have another tighter.
Speaker 3: I still think there's a part where the baby's arm
Speaker 3: just goes uh whatever. Anyway, that gave me a lot
Speaker 3: of joy.
Speaker 1: It was still magic.
Speaker 3: How about Rory? So here's my other question. If Loralai called,
Speaker 3: does that change things versus Christopher calling. She was sort
Speaker 3: of like stuck on.
Speaker 6: That it changes things for a slight second, Yes, it
Speaker 6: changes things because he's not the one reaching out to her.
Speaker 5: At least Laureaiz is the one reaching out to him.
Speaker 3: You know, in theory, he's still supposed to say no.
Speaker 4: But I think he respected Rory by not calling Laura.
Speaker 4: He never called, true, Yeah.
Speaker 1: But he cave so fast on that phone call, and
Speaker 1: it's like it's like he's just so fast.
Speaker 3: He's so fast. He tried so hard for like a
Speaker 3: full ninety seconds and I.
Speaker 1: Was back in the saddle again. Hey, Laurie, Yeah, I love, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll come by. What I think you should respect my daughter,
Speaker 1: I don't care who cares. I never.
Speaker 6: What I think he should have done is, hey, Laura,
Speaker 6: talk to Rory about it.
Speaker 5: If she's into it, we'll do it.
Speaker 3: But remember, Rory doesn't know Laurel I pulled like a trick,
Speaker 3: well yeah, Christopher and doesn't tell Christopher Rory is coming.
Speaker 6: I know, but Daniel, Christopher should have said that, like
Speaker 6: on the call when she's like, hey, do you want
Speaker 6: to do dinner or lunch at the Dragonfly whatever?
Speaker 3: Dad's coming?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I or no, Like when she asked Christopher that,
Speaker 6: Christopher Shaw said, Hey, why don't you ask Rory?
Speaker 5: If Rory's into it, I'll come.
Speaker 1: You know what, maybe one thing maybe saying here is
Speaker 1: that maybe it is just you know, Laura, like Gilmore
Speaker 1: is so charming and so beautiful, it's hard to decline
Speaker 1: an invitation for.
Speaker 3: Me and he loves her. Okay, So my question for
Speaker 3: the three of you and we'll all take a vote
Speaker 3: of the three of them, Laura, l Christopher, Rory, and
Speaker 3: you can only pick one who was the most sort
Speaker 3: of wrong Christopher, I disagree. Who do you think, Tara.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say Lauralai for not telling Luke?
Speaker 5: Me too, who Christopher?
Speaker 3: See, I think it's Laurai because not only did she
Speaker 3: not tell Luke, she lied.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the lying part actually mostly then, but.
Speaker 1: Christopher kind of lied against his daughter. He didn't, he
Speaker 1: didn't uphold his end. He made a bargain with his daughter, true,
Speaker 1: and he's looking to make excuses for one and that's
Speaker 1: sort of his his character. His nature is to make
Speaker 1: excuses for why he does things that go against himself
Speaker 1: and go against other people's wishes. And I think that
Speaker 1: really puts him most at fault in my opinion.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think they all were a little in the
Speaker 7: wrong in their own yeah way shape or for him.
Speaker 3: So let's pivot to what I think is the most
Speaker 3: important thing in this episode, which we'll get into Emily
Speaker 3: and Richard. So first of all, I'll just I'm gonna
Speaker 3: give a quick recap of what happens, and then I
Speaker 3: want to get her own stocks. So it kind of
Speaker 3: fails the one on one because moral is not good
Speaker 3: at it. She's like, can you got back together with dad?
Speaker 3: And she says, I think I need to date. Okay,
Speaker 3: So initially when she said that, especially for Scott and Danielle,
Speaker 3: what did you guys.
Speaker 1: Think funny seen on the couch you're a little close? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it doesn't. You know, we want to get back to
Speaker 1: Friday night dinners. I think as a as a community
Speaker 1: of fans, let's get back to Friday night dinners. We
Speaker 1: got to fix this Richard Emily thing. But is it
Speaker 1: is entertaining?
Speaker 3: But how do you feel about her wanting to date?
Speaker 3: Was that like whoa?
Speaker 1: I mean there's a part of me that's yeah, good,
Speaker 1: go I'm proud of you. Good. Yeah, penal and lot
Speaker 1: revenge and go.
Speaker 10: See how true I mean the pal thing is kind
Speaker 10: of your wings and you know, and yeah, I was weirdly,
Speaker 10: I was weirdly okay with the dating.
Speaker 1: She's so good and she's so likable, even though she
Speaker 1: can be such a you know, a caution that because
Speaker 1: when she shows her heart, you really see a beating
Speaker 1: heart there, right.
Speaker 3: And right right?
Speaker 1: That great and when she got she's so good she's
Speaker 1: such a good actress, and.
Speaker 3: So I love the scene in her room she's panicking,
Speaker 3: get over here. And I also love like when she's panicking,
Speaker 3: she calls Laurai. That's her go to girl. Do you
Speaker 3: know what I mean?
Speaker 5: Her room is a mixed well, she doesn't have anybody else?
Speaker 3: Who else? Friends? She has a million friends. She's got
Speaker 3: the whole d a R.
Speaker 6: Name one that would come over at the drop of that. No,
Speaker 6: they're big friends, dude, I don't know what else.
Speaker 3: Yeah, friend, she's going on this date with Simon McLean
Speaker 3: who she used Laura's line, what line hello? So obviously
Speaker 3: he's got a little crush on Emily. And it's all
Speaker 3: very sweet.
Speaker 5: It's all very It was a good date, Like it
Speaker 5: was a great date.
Speaker 3: I would agree I.
Speaker 5: Got on the day.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they have a great Emily.
Speaker 1: You have no idea how happy I was when you
Speaker 1: agreed to go out with me.
Speaker 10: And you said hello at the club, when you said
Speaker 10: hello to be at.
Speaker 1: The club, and you're making me feel things I haven't
Speaker 1: felt since college.
Speaker 3: He's you know, he's very charming.
Speaker 5: It's all they like the same things, like until three
Speaker 5: glasses of wine, until m and a lomon Cello.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, that's centru. But until, to me, what
Speaker 3: is the most heart wrenching and the most important scene
Speaker 3: for me in what is the seven seasons? Like this? Oh?
Speaker 3: Wowan to me is so important. And I'll tell you
Speaker 3: guys why when I want to know what you all
Speaker 3: thought when she walks in the house and shuts the
Speaker 3: door and starts to cry. So I'll say it's in
Speaker 3: the top five seven moments for me. And it was
Speaker 3: a big did you all? Yeah? I want to hear
Speaker 3: what you guys think before I say till.
Speaker 1: It's great writing. It's great writing. An actor sees that
Speaker 1: on a page and they're like, oh god, yes, I
Speaker 1: get to do that. You know, that's the behavior you
Speaker 1: that's gold and it really shows. It just encapsulates everything
Speaker 1: the character's feeling. It's brilliant writing. It's brilliant writing.
Speaker 5: It was sad.
Speaker 6: It was definitely sad, devastating. It just I think that's
Speaker 6: what that scene told me was she's not ready to
Speaker 6: move on. She's acting and she's putting up a really
Speaker 6: brave face, but really deep down inside she just wants
Speaker 6: to be with Richard and she's scared.
Speaker 3: So for me, oh, sorry you go, Tara. I saw
Speaker 3: Tara open her mouth.
Speaker 7: Oh, I was just going to say. For me, it
Speaker 7: took me back to the only other time I really
Speaker 7: remember Emily being vulnerable was when she saw where Rar
Speaker 7: and Laura grew up, and it was like this, she
Speaker 7: had this breakdown of like Emily has this front, like
Speaker 7: she's not gonna let anyone see this side of her.
Speaker 7: So for us, like the audience, to see this side
Speaker 7: of her is like such a special moment. But it
Speaker 7: doesn't happen very often, which is why it's special.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, for me, it's just so extraordinarily relatable, and
Speaker 3: so I think, like it's so significant, Like it always
Speaker 3: is like a polaroid picture in my mind, her coming
Speaker 3: in from that date, and I literally tell friends that
Speaker 3: are getting divorced because yes, she's older, right, so she's
Speaker 3: like sixties seventies. But when I tell friends, like, you're
Speaker 3: gonna go on a date for the first time, but
Speaker 3: you better watch this episode of Gilmore Girls, because you're
Speaker 3: gonna come home from the date your first date out
Speaker 3: right and cry, and it's like it just see, it's
Speaker 3: so true, and like whether or not this is the
Speaker 3: beginning for Emily and Richard to be reunited or for
Speaker 3: other people they go on the date. It's almost like
Speaker 3: when you get divorced that first date out, make sure
Speaker 3: it's not the person you actually want to like be with,
Speaker 3: because it's gonna blow when you get home, you're gonna
Speaker 3: feel weird. And I thought that was what. She comes
Speaker 3: home to this empty house. She obviously had a good time,
Speaker 3: and then it settles in like I don't want any
Speaker 3: of this. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 1: Just she may she may still want to have a
Speaker 1: second date and to you know, proceed with the divorce.
Speaker 1: It's just painful. You know, doesn't mean she wants to
Speaker 1: she wants it all back. It just means that she's
Speaker 1: she's in a tough spot in her life.
Speaker 6: You know what I would have loved to see or
Speaker 6: like like either Richard seeing Emily go about to go
Speaker 6: on the date or coming home from the date, Like
Speaker 6: I would have loved to see.
Speaker 3: That, like from the window, right, so they kick in
Speaker 3: his pants he needs right, Yeah, that one gets me.
Speaker 3: I have a couple of call outs before we go.
Speaker 3: Number one, Melissa McCarthy looks amazing and green, like amazing
Speaker 3: when they're walking and she's in green.
Speaker 1: Always.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd read that in your book. Luke opening the
Speaker 3: door of the truck for Loralai Perry sweet and I
Speaker 3: think there's almost sort of a holding hands. They're just
Speaker 3: very cute on that date. And then we touched on
Speaker 3: it briefly. Rory over at Marty's studying, totally comfortable in
Speaker 3: his bed and he says, so you broke up with
Speaker 3: your boyfriend and she's asleep.
Speaker 1: I think you're leaving one thing. Yes, that Marty scene
Speaker 1: was was was great. It was almost his Emily Gilmour
Speaker 1: and the foyer moment.
Speaker 3: Well, and Christopher Coles.
Speaker 1: But I think enough about Christopher for God's sake, no
Speaker 1: one important things missing. We're missing the funniest scene in
Speaker 1: the in the entire episode, which was t J and
Speaker 1: Luke cutting the pipe.
Speaker 3: Oh and he just loses his.
Speaker 1: And he just what I mean? I laughed out loud.
Speaker 1: That was the scene that really killed me because t
Speaker 1: J just picked up a bike of what.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I do think there's some significance to the fact
Speaker 9: that Loralai does not answer Christopher's call and takes the
Speaker 9: popcorn and goes upstairs.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of did you notice that's a lot
Speaker 1: of popcorn? Is that a lot of popcorn?
Speaker 3: Here's the thing. Fine, it's going to go down. Fine,
Speaker 3: and then she's going to have the t because there's
Speaker 3: so much fiber and popcorn.
Speaker 6: All I have to say as we close out this
Speaker 6: episode is Marty over Logan. No, I am so sorry,
Speaker 6: Marty over Logan.
Speaker 1: Sorry, not quite there yet.
Speaker 5: Come on, guys, so much more.
Speaker 7: Out o my god, you can't even compare Marty and
Speaker 7: and Logan.
Speaker 6: If I didn't know anything about the future, which I
Speaker 6: know Logan is a thing, I would have said, I
Speaker 6: want Rory to be with Marty.
Speaker 3: Okay, oh gosh, okay, okay, fine, I respect it. No,
Speaker 3: oh my god, there is Okay. We have to do
Speaker 3: favorite lines, which this isn't mine, but there was something
Speaker 3: about the squeaky stairs that made me laugh when he's like,
Speaker 3: oh you you ordered that in or whatever. But anyway,
Speaker 3: everyone say their favorite lines. I have to find mine.
Speaker 5: I know I didn't.
Speaker 6: Sorry it didn't come prepared, but I'm just going to
Speaker 6: go on.
Speaker 1: I just loved.
Speaker 7: Emily and loreleized banter. When she's like I want to
Speaker 7: go on a date, she's like with a man.
Speaker 3: I also like when Rory is trying to Convince Richard
Speaker 3: like not everything. It's not permanent, like go blonde, and
Speaker 3: then he only has Nautella and batteries. Batteries.
Speaker 1: Daniel go ahead.
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm just gonna say hello, Hello, Hello.
Speaker 1: I'm going to say when Laurelai says to her mother
Speaker 1: sitting on the couch next to her little close in
Speaker 1: one word, what are we rating this episode? Targehead, I'm going.
Speaker 7: To go with the leftover boxes of food. That's my
Speaker 7: measuring stick, the one that Marty brings over.
Speaker 3: Orders.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and I'm gonna go here's the thing. It's not
Speaker 7: my favorite episode, but it wasn't bad, so I'm going
Speaker 7: to give it an eight out of ten.
Speaker 6: Okay, Danielle, I'm going to say eight point eight people magazines, Amy.
Speaker 3: Nine point nine loopholes.
Speaker 1: Uh, I'm going to give it. I'm gonna give it
Speaker 1: nine point eight seventy nine pipe curds.
Speaker 3: I know you're gonna go parpeuts. I love it. I
Speaker 3: mean it just because I think it's so emily centric
Speaker 3: and powerful to me. I think it's genius. I mean,
Speaker 3: if a TV show impacts you so much that you've
Speaker 3: used it as a reference to multiple friends, it deserves
Speaker 3: a nine point nine.
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