Speaker 1: Hello, it's Bowen.
Speaker 2: I for my episode had to choose Great Americans with
Speaker 2: Tina fe for our year end roundup. For reasons that
Speaker 2: go without saying. This was recorded the day after Ioadebris
Speaker 2: episode of SNL that she hosted, and that's context for
Speaker 2: what we talk about up top in terms of that
Speaker 2: night feeling like a bellhouse night, in terms of us
Speaker 2: being with all of our friends and celebrating each other
Speaker 2: and celebrating Io. And then it was so nice to
Speaker 2: have the next day be a debrief with the one
Speaker 2: and only Tina Fey herself to hear her perspective on this.
Speaker 2: She's obviously someone we look up to and also someone
Speaker 2: who you know, came up with her coterie of people
Speaker 2: in comedy in Chicago and New York. And of course
Speaker 2: it all culminates in Gosh, the number one single greatest
Speaker 2: I Don't Think So Honey of all time. Of course,
Speaker 2: it's I Don't Think So Honey bo Yang for sharing
Speaker 2: his real opinions on movies on this podcast. It all
Speaker 2: ends with that famous line, authenticity is dangerous and expensive.
Speaker 2: A lesson that I have learned over and over again
Speaker 2: this year is I'm sure you have as well it's
Speaker 2: a pretty universal axiom at this point. It applies to
Speaker 2: all of us. But this is just so much fun.
Speaker 2: We got to talk to theme parks, we got to
Speaker 2: talk old TV and everything great about Tina and everything
Speaker 2: great about the culture. She really is the north star
Speaker 2: for us and it was so so so fun to
Speaker 2: have her on. She was so good on this episode
Speaker 2: that even Vanity Fair named her I don't think so
Speaker 2: many as one of the best performances of twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2: We couldn't agree more here it is great Americans with
Speaker 2: Tina Fay.
Speaker 1: Look maher oh, I see you my own and look
Speaker 1: over there. How is that culture? Yes? Goodness, Wow, loves
Speaker 1: culture ding dong los culture is us calling back in
Speaker 1: back in tact tactile position. Talk to us.
Speaker 2: About the mozzarella stick number rock that you were working.
Speaker 1: So. I don't know why this was the answer to
Speaker 1: how I should end my night, but I get home,
Speaker 1: it's three thirty in the morning, I get stoned and
Speaker 1: order mozzarella sticks. Bad because I know I have to
Speaker 1: wake up. But let's say ten sort of mentally prepare
Speaker 1: and you know, clean really physically prepare for the podcast
Speaker 1: today and last night I'm ordering my Monzrelli sticks and
Speaker 1: I see it says six monzarel sticks, and in my
Speaker 1: mind that's not enough. And then this morning, when everything
Speaker 1: sort of settles, you think you didn't need one.
Speaker 2: That's the devil's math. That's sixth with Mozzarelli sticks.
Speaker 1: But I feel you, Dick, feels like nothing right.
Speaker 2: I think six is more than enough. Well, yeah, I
Speaker 2: ordered Mozzarelli sticks. This is the last time I ordered
Speaker 2: montzrel sticks. Was at Alma draft House what watching The Boy,
Speaker 2: The Boy and the Heron and I had to leave
Speaker 2: in the middle because of work call.
Speaker 1: Of a work call? Is that what you call violent?
Speaker 2: And it was not?
Speaker 1: What because I know you the second we both went
Speaker 1: in here today we both ran to the bathroom, and
Speaker 1: I know what that was.
Speaker 2: Was a work call. Okay, this is all to say
Speaker 2: I got six and I only finished four.
Speaker 1: That's a huge brag and an insult to me. No,
Speaker 1: it was ravenous last night for them. But last night
Speaker 1: was very celebratory and was very nice. Io did great,
Speaker 1: what an unbelievable performance.
Speaker 2: She had, very very fun.
Speaker 1: I mean I think about between twelve and fifteen people
Speaker 1: said this, and it just kind of kept getting kicked around.
Speaker 1: But yes, this is like the Bell House. This is
Speaker 1: like the Bell House. But it really was. It felt
Speaker 1: like a celebration.
Speaker 2: Was very nice. We made it proud of her. Now,
Speaker 2: what was your review of the Countess Cabaret?
Speaker 1: I'm still I saw the sheiks not because not necessarily
Speaker 1: because of the talent, but she was great. The Countess
Speaker 1: Luyanne as fifty four below was She certainly has star quality,
Speaker 1: but there's something that happens where she steps on stage
Speaker 1: and sort of everyone looks at each other and you go,
Speaker 1: we're getting blacked out. We're all drinking so much tonight.
Speaker 2: I asked you, was it like going to the Disney
Speaker 2: World character breakfast?
Speaker 1: It was not unlike that.
Speaker 2: It was like seeing Goofy come out while you're eating
Speaker 2: a Mickey shaped white cake.
Speaker 1: Let's say Minnie Mouse, let's become Annie. It's not saying
Speaker 1: Goofy comes out okay, no oh no, no, no, that's
Speaker 1: he's gonna want It's not what I was saying. If
Speaker 1: you're watching, if you're you're just saying lou had the
Speaker 1: impact of Goofy. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, not anything to
Speaker 1: do with the air get sucked out right. One hundred percent,
Speaker 1: like when Goofy walks in the room. It's like Nicole
Speaker 1: Kimmen and the Chanel number five commercial by Baz Luhrmann.
Speaker 1: It's just like, you know, do you know the commercial
Speaker 1: I'm talking about? I think so speaking of fragrances, I
Speaker 1: want you to smell me right here and tell me.
Speaker 2: What it is. Okay, go, you know what this is?
Speaker 2: By Rado?
Speaker 1: No, it's axe. Oh, so I have yesterday, I said
Speaker 1: about one. I'm like, I have no dealer in New York.
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened. My New York apartment has
Speaker 1: no deal order. And my mother was like, I want
Speaker 1: to get you something for Christmas. I said, don't. I
Speaker 1: don't want anything. She goes, okay, I'll get you a
Speaker 1: bunch of little small things. Ten axe deordorance, which is
Speaker 1: both a trigger to like high school locker room and
Speaker 1: also quite out of fashion.
Speaker 2: But that is like the timeless, enduring thing about suburban
Speaker 2: life is that you're never more than half a mile
Speaker 2: away from it from.
Speaker 1: An axe body spray, especially from Long Island. That's like
Speaker 1: a big culture axe body spray. Yes, and so I do.
Speaker 1: I am walking around and it's sort of like a
Speaker 1: little bit of having a little bit of how I
Speaker 1: am a little triggered, but also it's horny.
Speaker 2: It's horny.
Speaker 1: Well that's why I wanted you to smell me, to
Speaker 1: get your horned up for the episode. Speaking of getting
Speaker 1: horned up, speaking of horny, Speaking of horny, I think
Speaker 1: everyone's horny for well, first of all, Restless Leg Tour.
Speaker 2: We're talking eleven.
Speaker 1: Days at the Beacon, eleven days nights at the begin Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love my surprise. I'm like, well, of course, well.
Speaker 2: Of course, and it's the Beacon and New York. I
Speaker 2: think they're all sold out. But well, yeah, kind of
Speaker 2: elbow your way in.
Speaker 1: Are you going to sign the wall? Yes?
Speaker 3: Yes, and I mean obviously if you guys want to come.
Speaker 1: Oh the nineteenth nineteen.
Speaker 3: Thank you for doing the math real quick.
Speaker 1: I did the math and eighteenth Okay, wait, now we
Speaker 1: have to officially bring around because that can't be the entrance.
Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on, it was really so weak.
Speaker 2: No, no, not week, girls, I have us coming back
Speaker 2: on Netflix.
Speaker 1: Okay, thanks fucking god, because I had been wondering about that.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's coming. Oh, March is going to be
Speaker 2: a big month for humanity and uh, mean Girls the
Speaker 2: musical of course the movie. Oh we're not calling it
Speaker 2: the musical, and.
Speaker 1: No, we're calling it Me Girls twenty twenty we're calling
Speaker 1: which I text you about it. I said ten times,
Speaker 1: I said, it's called Me and.
Speaker 2: Girls twenty twenty four mean girls. Eighth note in the
Speaker 2: negative space where the A is.
Speaker 1: Do you know what's funny this person created and start
Speaker 1: our favorite movie and our favorite show. Yeah, and I'm
Speaker 1: not even talking about Saturday Night Live, which also is
Speaker 1: in the top two of favorite show. Oh yeah, thirty Rock.
Speaker 2: Oh for sure.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine just go back in time and tell
Speaker 1: us in twenty sixteen when we started this, that day
Speaker 1: is going to be on the podcast, said.
Speaker 2: Tina fe is gonna be in the podcast.
Speaker 1: You know what I thought in the shower this morning,
Speaker 1: I thought, what did you think in the shower where
Speaker 1: you do your backside?
Speaker 2: And this is where this I thought. Worldwide Pants took
Speaker 2: down all of the t FA on Letterman interviews and
Speaker 2: those were my fucking comfort watches in college.
Speaker 1: I told you, though, that you could find it somewhere else.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Seth lied liar.
Speaker 1: Why they take them down?
Speaker 2: I think I think a Letterman wants to protect his content.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I can't possibly begin to understand. And
Speaker 2: then also, I mean so many things.
Speaker 1: You love her.
Speaker 2: You really love this person so much, don't you. I'm
Speaker 2: talking to you, the Surroyal you, the Royal you. Everyone. Welcome,
Speaker 2: gentlemen and the crew.
Speaker 1: By the way, this episode is directed by Christopher Nolan.
Speaker 1: It's Oppenheimer. The film is crazy. A lady needs a
Speaker 1: lot of lights and the gentleman a lot of lights
Speaker 1: blow out the Countess loo from Ladies Please. Are you
Speaker 1: familiar with the Countess flu Yes?
Speaker 3: That is that is the original sort of Real Housewives
Speaker 3: New York era. That was my era. I once chased
Speaker 3: Countess Luanne down the street on the Upper West Side
Speaker 3: because I was so. I was like, she's on the
Speaker 3: Upper west Side, the restaurant West that used to be there,
Speaker 3: And I was like, and I basically was like, I
Speaker 3: was like Countess and I was like, I work at
Speaker 3: NBC too, I'm a universal girl, work for university.
Speaker 1: We brushed elbows at the upfront. So wait, when you
Speaker 1: were watching Roney, like, were you were you sort of
Speaker 1: were you sort of like I'm Bethany, Like I'm like.
Speaker 3: Well, first of all, No, I'm not bethany h way, no,
Speaker 3: thank you.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 3: I used to watch the season one. I used to
Speaker 3: really love, like season one. You guys were probably in
Speaker 3: middle school because it was before nobody was aware, no
Speaker 3: one was like working the camera yet nobody was, and
Speaker 3: it was just really I just wanted to see people's apartments.
Speaker 1: I get it.
Speaker 3: I wanted to see their apartments and make judgments. And
Speaker 3: I didn't need them to be fighting about stuff.
Speaker 1: No, I just wanted.
Speaker 3: And so who was it was? You know who I
Speaker 3: was obsessed with at that time was Alex mccordy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, essentially it had the show gone in a different direction,
Speaker 1: which was we just watched these people live their crazy
Speaker 1: lives and it wasn't like a conflict in the show.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, because people gravitated towards you know.
Speaker 2: That's so funny though, because I think Architectural Digest home
Speaker 2: tours of like scratched the itch or like taking over
Speaker 2: that little fascination we have of like people's homes and
Speaker 2: like that's fully been supplanted, right, and.
Speaker 3: Just be like just going and looking apartments. But remember
Speaker 3: when she was redoing her Brooklyn townhouse and Jill's aren
Speaker 3: came over and she's like, we're restoring this banish when
Speaker 3: she was like, honey, you don't have to save everything
Speaker 3: that's not a good. Bands like Jill's jill Zaren almost Yah.
Speaker 1: Who else wasn't that original Ramona and I just recently
Speaker 1: picked for some reason this was on. It was the
Speaker 1: fashion Show episode where Ramona walked with those crazy eyes
Speaker 1: and Jill is just dragging and just like killing it
Speaker 1: in the front row commedically, comedically, total, it was really
Speaker 1: on fire.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they kind of buy like their second season, so
Speaker 2: this was not the phenomenon back then either. But it
Speaker 2: wasn't this thing where like they saw themselves for the
Speaker 2: first time on TV and then they got the work done.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Just like facially, she happens to everyone.
Speaker 3: I mean, you see yourself on TV and you go,
Speaker 3: oh no, breakdown, Oh no, what are we going to
Speaker 3: do about this?
Speaker 1: In my face all the time people see my face
Speaker 1: as that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, speaking of Universal, do you have any thoughts about
Speaker 2: this epic universe announced?
Speaker 1: Yeah, because we know you're a Disney gay like us.
Speaker 3: Well listen, I'm gonna check it out.
Speaker 1: Yea.
Speaker 3: My instinct, my gut instinct is oh honey, it's SNL
Speaker 3: mad TV that there's not the taste maker at the
Speaker 3: core defines the thing, right, and so Walt Disney.
Speaker 1: But I'll go, yeah, yeah, you're going to be there,
Speaker 1: but I'll go.
Speaker 2: And we all love we like mad TV and.
Speaker 3: They are amazing things that mattiv amazing, hilarious people came
Speaker 3: out of My TV. But the just wasn't that unifying core?
Speaker 1: Yeah, totally, Well what if I told you this? So
Speaker 1: on one of the announcements they said was that there's
Speaker 1: going to be a Frankenstein ride and the star of
Speaker 1: the pre show is Victoria Frankenstein, the great grand daughter
Speaker 1: of doctor.
Speaker 3: But is that the Diablo movie that's.
Speaker 2: I conflated this last week?
Speaker 1: Okay, a lot of girl Boss Frankenstein's happening right now
Speaker 1: in the culture. We have to differentiate.
Speaker 3: Universal is trying to use that understanding the Universal Monster's
Speaker 3: catalog and fun ways, and I'm enjoying that.
Speaker 1: If you went in there and said I'll play doctor
Speaker 1: Victoria Frankenstein, you first of all, you book.
Speaker 3: Media seventeen shows a week, seventeen nine minute shows a week,
Speaker 3: every day.
Speaker 2: You wouldn't even do the pre show? Would I do
Speaker 2: a cue that's what we mean the c C.
Speaker 3: I mean, listen in my heart of hearts, am I
Speaker 3: holding out for a Disney queue? Of course did I
Speaker 3: at one point try to volunteer me and Amy Poehler
Speaker 3: to do Sarah Palin and Hillary Clinton for the Hall
Speaker 3: of Presidents And they were.
Speaker 1: Like, we're good.
Speaker 3: Oh my well I only volunteered it to my friend
Speaker 3: who's like the guy, and I didn't call it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's Sam. It is a huge
Speaker 1: part of too. Oh my god, that makes me so
Speaker 1: happy we went there. But he loves you. I love him.
Speaker 1: I know you can tell it's a special relationship.
Speaker 3: It really is.
Speaker 1: The Disney relationship is a special relationship. And that's actually
Speaker 1: real Coature number eighty eight.
Speaker 2: The Disney relationship is a special relationship. God blessed Sam
Speaker 2: because Sam took us on guard to the Alexy Cosmic
Speaker 2: rewind no less than seven.
Speaker 3: Times, which is not medically advisable.
Speaker 1: No, you done it.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's beautiful, but I'm an age. Were like, I
Speaker 3: can do it once. Also, you don't not see a
Speaker 3: lot of protein spills outside guard, And just for clarity,
Speaker 3: that is vomit.
Speaker 1: Well, I've become that girl that's like when the part
Speaker 1: of the ride that makes people nauseous comes up, I'm like,
Speaker 1: keep looking at the planet. Keep looking at the planet,
Speaker 1: don't look to the side. You're gonna suck yourself up.
Speaker 1: And if you listen, you have your strategies. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: have my strategy. Yeah. Well I knew this about all
Speaker 1: of us, that we shared this, and that's that's why
Speaker 1: I bring it up. And that's why now correct me
Speaker 1: if I'm wrong. You've been on the Avatar flight of
Speaker 1: passage R of course. Don't you think that should be
Speaker 1: him in the pre show.
Speaker 2: Just explaining what the banchees are.
Speaker 1: You have the scientific gravitas to carry that pre show through.
Speaker 2: I don't want us to fully raise the middle finger
Speaker 2: to that guy.
Speaker 1: It's not about him. This is about you. This is
Speaker 1: about what's best for you to be in that pre
Speaker 1: shows define the.
Speaker 3: Guy that c and I don't know if this is
Speaker 3: a true story or a story that I made up
Speaker 3: for myself either way, but I feel like someone else
Speaker 3: was supposed to shoot that and then and something went
Speaker 3: wrong and they're.
Speaker 1: Like, you have to do it. You made that up.
Speaker 2: I think you made that up.
Speaker 1: Here's well, no, Sam isn't it great to have a resource.
Speaker 1: The Disney relationship is a special relationship. You go to
Speaker 1: that person for information like this, Can I tell.
Speaker 3: You a deep Disney nerdery thing? If it interests you,
Speaker 3: I could try to get you in on this.
Speaker 1: Let's do it.
Speaker 3: Okay, So have you ever done a voice at Pixar?
Speaker 1: A voice at Pixar?
Speaker 3: No, that's an oversight that needs to happen.
Speaker 1: Okay, good, Sure, Okay, I think you have. I got
Speaker 1: lucky enough to do one. Aa.
Speaker 3: But so the guy Pete doctor who runs Pixar, super
Speaker 3: nice guy, legend, the kindest, loveliest man, and he invited
Speaker 3: me in on this super nerdy thing that sometimes they
Speaker 3: do where they have they I guess they used to
Speaker 3: do it in persons during the pandemic. They were doing
Speaker 3: it over Zoom where they just have literally like someone
Speaker 3: found a case of like weird b roll building the
Speaker 3: park footage and they just play it like they haven't
Speaker 3: seen it, and it's just like from like nineteen seventy one,
Speaker 3: we're building the Haunted mansion and it's just like raw
Speaker 3: footage of nothing but like guys working. And then there's
Speaker 3: experts on who like they're all these imagineers who are
Speaker 3: talking about what it is.
Speaker 1: And then they just drink really and it's amazing.
Speaker 3: And because it happens on the West coast, if you're
Speaker 3: watching it East coast, it's like start it's like two
Speaker 3: in the morning and you put your laptop in your bed.
Speaker 1: Woh wow. But it's so cool. That was my dream,
Speaker 1: like until I found out it was mostly science and
Speaker 1: math and yeah, actually there's a lot of engineers at
Speaker 1: otherwise the people fly off and exactly, I need to
Speaker 1: reconnect with Sam.
Speaker 2: Oh. Sam was lovely. Sam was really well.
Speaker 1: I was a tour guide at Disney who is an
Speaker 1: icon and a legend and this is a big shout
Speaker 1: out to him. He's a great American.
Speaker 2: He's a great American. And then he said he was
Speaker 2: coming to see you, and Amy was it.
Speaker 1: He came to d C.
Speaker 3: He came the first weekend.
Speaker 2: Has been what's that like?
Speaker 3: The shows are so fun. I do hope you'll come
Speaker 3: to the begin I want to come, Yeah, please come,
Speaker 3: but it's like I'm I'm gonna, I'm coming. We have
Speaker 3: the best time. It's the two of us. We take
Speaker 3: you on our little journey if we can, and we
Speaker 3: usually always have like one special friend show up and
Speaker 3: we go to these cities. People are so lovely to
Speaker 3: come see us, and then we stay at a nice hotel.
Speaker 1: And I've said this before, but it is like we
Speaker 1: get up.
Speaker 3: Like the other night, I really did text Amy before
Speaker 3: a show and I was like, right before we went out,
Speaker 3: she was on the other side stage, was like, I'm
Speaker 3: getting excited about going to sleep because we do like
Speaker 3: we have so much fun. Like I'm also learning, like
Speaker 3: I love the part where we do the show. And
Speaker 3: I was like, I guess some people go on tour
Speaker 3: because they want to party after the show or whatever.
Speaker 3: They want to hook up. And I was like, I
Speaker 3: like the part where we do the show. And sometimes
Speaker 3: if we have a new thing and it works, I'm
Speaker 3: like that works. And then I go home and I
Speaker 3: wash my face and I like stand in silence facing
Speaker 3: a wall like I'm like a little.
Speaker 1: Like you let yourself like charge, and I'm like satisfied.
Speaker 2: But I think this is just a function of like time,
Speaker 2: And I will say for Matt and I it's exceptional
Speaker 2: if we go out after the show.
Speaker 1: I mean even yesterday, like we were in Bowen's dressing
Speaker 1: room like and Bowen comes in. He's like, all right,
Speaker 1: so the after party and we were all were like
Speaker 1: at the same time, like we don't know, we know
Speaker 1: it might it might be a quick drink that we're
Speaker 1: hung over from Lunn. But no, good, that's the difference.
Speaker 1: You still look really good.
Speaker 2: I put on concealer because today because the camera is
Speaker 2: because I'm just away from people.
Speaker 1: I love it. If I knew how to do my
Speaker 1: own concealer, I would do it. Is it as simple
Speaker 1: as that up? Kind of? I don't know. I tried.
Speaker 3: I tried to do my make up today and I
Speaker 3: probably will see this and be like, oh, it was
Speaker 3: like coming from a matine of playing missus love it.
Speaker 3: I'm I didn't get to my husband went I didn't
Speaker 3: get see it. I was touring, all right. Well, I
Speaker 3: try to use that rare beauty bluff, which is but
Speaker 3: it's so pigmented that then I do it and I'm like,
Speaker 3: I'm either fucking great.
Speaker 1: Or have you been? Have you checked in on the
Speaker 1: new Feud?
Speaker 3: I haven't watched it yet, but I think I will.
Speaker 3: I don't watch every part of the of the Murphy Verse,
Speaker 3: but that one I'm like, you might get me.
Speaker 1: I do feel.
Speaker 3: I was like, Okay, the pr is over time because
Speaker 3: there's so many articles now about IM, like, are we
Speaker 3: this is really what we're this top of top of
Speaker 3: mind in every paper?
Speaker 1: But yeah, it does seem interesting. It is a lot
Speaker 1: of fun to watch just because of the like atmosphere
Speaker 1: of it all. I will say, the entire story of
Speaker 1: it is just well, you know, Truman Capoti befriended these
Speaker 1: women and then you wrote an article and they never
Speaker 1: spoke to them again, and that's literally I'm kind of
Speaker 1: interested to see how it's going to be a whole
Speaker 1: limited series because even in the first episode you get
Speaker 1: it like they're not talking to him anymore, right, But
Speaker 1: then I'm thinking, like maybe every episode will be like
Speaker 1: a bottless episode and be getting more into the specifics
Speaker 1: of who these women were, which is going to be great.
Speaker 1: I need more Callista though.
Speaker 2: At this moment, I got three different line reads of
Speaker 2: Demi Moore calling Tom Hollander venomous.
Speaker 1: She with her whole chest gets to say a slur
Speaker 1: and it's really fun to watch her just let it rip.
Speaker 1: They really let dem go for it, and she goes, yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: I loved it.
Speaker 3: Well, I do you think that is you know that
Speaker 3: he is giving these actresses like he's making people's phones
Speaker 3: ring who maybe their phone wasn't ringing them.
Speaker 1: Molly Ringwold's like her phone rang off the hook for this.
Speaker 3: And you know what Molly Ringold has been doing in
Speaker 3: the meantime.
Speaker 1: Translating French book, translating French book.
Speaker 2: Yes, fly with Me. It's it's a really sad gay
Speaker 2: French novel.
Speaker 1: What. Yeah, she's really smart.
Speaker 2: She's very I believe that. No, she's incredible. Yeah, she's
Speaker 2: a very she's a great American.
Speaker 1: Well, one of my obsessions at this moment is Chloe
Speaker 1: seventy now that this has all been happening. And apparently
Speaker 1: Chloe simply broke down on the day where she had
Speaker 1: to shoot with Molly Ringwold because that was how much
Speaker 1: how Yeah, I don't know. That's uh huh. Chloe, who's
Speaker 1: like the coolest like you would imagine, it's like very
Speaker 1: unbothered about the whole thing. Ye. Actually in interviews, like
Speaker 1: I watched her on Jimmy the other night and she's
Speaker 1: very like like y'all, she's like like everybody, Oh, try
Speaker 1: I cry. I break down to Molly Ringwall just like
Speaker 1: you and me and everyone else.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the shared I guess American experience. I'm kind
Speaker 2: of tying this back to a national sort of narrative.
Speaker 1: Well, she also was like they did this thing because, like,
Speaker 1: you know, she's obviously a fashion icon Chloe, and they
Speaker 1: were like looking back at all of her like iconic
Speaker 1: looks because she was like that, she had nothing nice
Speaker 1: to say about anything she ever wore. She's like, oh this, no, this, no,
Speaker 1: this no. And I was like, maybe that's what makes
Speaker 1: her such an icon.
Speaker 3: She also needs to keep looking. She didn't. She didn't
Speaker 3: just find a uniform and stick with it, never satisfied.
Speaker 2: Never have we found her uniforms.
Speaker 1: This is your uniform?
Speaker 2: Sure, okay, this is a cream collar, long sleeved.
Speaker 1: Collar like a strong kit.
Speaker 3: Is it a sweat?
Speaker 2: Is it it's a sweats.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's good.
Speaker 2: So, but that's I don't know if this is the
Speaker 2: uniform though. It's the glasses. It's the I mean, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's it. You've changed your glasses though last year. Yeah, yeah, yesterday,
Speaker 2: I had my contacts in for the show and then
Speaker 2: they had to audition different pairs of glasses for the sketch.
Speaker 2: And then one of them had an actual prescription in them,
Speaker 2: and I was like, oh, this one has a prescription
Speaker 2: in them. And then my dresser, Audrey, was like laughing,
Speaker 2: and she was like, keen and earlier had the same
Speaker 2: thing happened to him, and he said, there's medicine in
Speaker 2: the medicine, by the way, Keenan Thompson, And I'm not
Speaker 2: and this is perfect, but this is truly like an
Speaker 2: apropos thing for me this week where he was up
Speaker 2: till four am with us shooting the sketch, just rallying everybody,
Speaker 2: keeping the morale up, like getting everybody looked like like
Speaker 2: out of like the four am overnight shoot, like Doldrums
Speaker 2: or whatever.
Speaker 1: Team Captain Vibes.
Speaker 2: What a treasure.
Speaker 3: And again, as we continue to make the list of
Speaker 3: great Americans, who do we have? So far we have
Speaker 3: Sam Loomis, Keenan who was somebody in between Molly Chloe,
Speaker 3: I mean Chloe, yes, yes, Top twenty, top twenty New
Speaker 3: Yorker there.
Speaker 2: With Hamilton Hamilton and do you have any thoughts about
Speaker 2: what she has said, I guess in a rolling Stone
Speaker 2: thing about how New York is all Lulu Lemon and dogs,
Speaker 2: too many dogs. But you're as a recent dog owner, yes,
Speaker 2: what do you make of this?
Speaker 1: Like and as someone who's been in New York for a.
Speaker 3: Minute, Yes, are there too many dogs?
Speaker 2: I mean I haven't noticed anything.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of dogs.
Speaker 3: I mean I don't go I don't go to like
Speaker 3: the dog park and that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: I have. I have people that.
Speaker 3: My dogs group inside every single day.
Speaker 1: Oh really, Oh they're a mess insistent places.
Speaker 3: Sometimes I I'm like, guys, I'm I'm the Queen of Versailles.
Speaker 3: You can't have this. And the dogs are like, we
Speaker 3: haven't watched that.
Speaker 2: No, have you watched the series, Queen?
Speaker 3: No, someone just told me about this. I will watch it.
Speaker 3: I did recently rewatched the original excellent movie, fascinating, incredible.
Speaker 2: The series is a little bit of a cheapened version,
Speaker 2: I'll say. I'll say that on the record, but.
Speaker 3: Because like all documentaries, not all, but a lot of
Speaker 3: great documentaries, it's they started thinking it was going to
Speaker 3: be about one thing and then it changes.
Speaker 1: That usually is exciting and yeah, yeah, yes, was not.
Speaker 1: Like the most famous example of that is probably the Jinks,
Speaker 1: right is the jinks?
Speaker 3: The jinks and also capturing the Freedman's oh yeah, which
Speaker 3: have you ever seen that?
Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever seen it.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, For first of all, because it's supposed to
Speaker 3: be about this guy who's a party clown, and then
Speaker 3: it turns out that he has his dark family history
Speaker 3: and they follow that. But you know that Silly Billy
Speaker 3: the party clown used to play the SNL holiday party
Speaker 3: up on seventeen. He would come and do like party
Speaker 3: clown stuff like when I was a writer, when like
Speaker 3: Norm McDonald's son would be there that era. So I
Speaker 3: saw the doc and I was like, that's oh my god,
Speaker 3: that's Silly Billy. Oh no, Silly Billy's family.
Speaker 1: No, he was not. What do you mean he did?
Speaker 2: The party there used to be.
Speaker 3: A little you know what it was. They would have
Speaker 3: and the tree lighting was happening. Yes, they'd have bagels
Speaker 3: and stuff and people would bring their kids.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they bring your kids to people.
Speaker 3: Would bring you know why, because Louren's kids were little.
Speaker 2: That's why there no children about. It's just the bagels.
Speaker 2: And it's like the meetings happening, like your sketch might
Speaker 2: get picked, it might not. It's like there's a lot
Speaker 2: of weird tens. But then the lighting is always a
Speaker 2: beautiful moment.
Speaker 1: It's a nice moment. But we were taught.
Speaker 3: You asked about New York and has Disney York have
Speaker 3: too many dogs? Probably?
Speaker 1: Does it have too much?
Speaker 3: I mean it's a mix in my neighborhood, it's a
Speaker 3: mix of like there's a Lululemon and then everything else
Speaker 3: is vacant.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess most of the time where it's just
Speaker 1: all dogs. And so I just kind of accepted that
Speaker 1: me not having one is I'm wrong and I should
Speaker 1: get one. I also like, now I'm starting to feel
Speaker 1: a little guilty that I don't have one. Do you
Speaker 1: remember when I hosted that dog grooming comp I hosted
Speaker 1: a dog grooming competition show called Hot Dog hau tr Excellent,
Speaker 1: And there was a day there was a day where
Speaker 1: it was like rescue dog Day and they made me
Speaker 1: hold one of these dogs and give a direct to
Speaker 1: camera like don't you want to save a life? Like
Speaker 1: how would you feel to know that you could have
Speaker 1: saved a life? Right? I didn't, And then I like
Speaker 1: handed the dog back and I was like okay later,
Speaker 1: and then I felt bad. It was like we need
Speaker 1: to help, need to help.
Speaker 3: The message that was the help. The PSA was the help.
Speaker 1: I did my thing. I can be fun uncle to
Speaker 1: these dogs, actual children.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm ready for parenthood with the dogs.
Speaker 1: The dog you want one, he would be a great
Speaker 1: dog owner.
Speaker 3: The schedule, Yeah, because does no one brings their dog
Speaker 3: to us and ow.
Speaker 2: People bring their dogs Testina, That would be a bridge
Speaker 2: too far. Oh, there's there's a couple of people. But
Speaker 2: it's fine.
Speaker 1: Like they stay in the dressing room.
Speaker 2: They stay in the dressing room, or sometimes they'll bring
Speaker 2: them out. It's okay.
Speaker 3: That's a different world.
Speaker 2: It's a different Yeah. Would never have flown No, no, no,
Speaker 2: I don't think so. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right now I think post pandemic, we're all like, we've.
Speaker 2: Had a rough couple of years.
Speaker 1: Let's let everyone have what they need everyone, let's make sure.
Speaker 2: Everything's fine, which I culturally must feel. Why I remember
Speaker 2: that this just comes with starting out there, no matter
Speaker 2: who you are, no matter what job it is, if
Speaker 2: you start out there, it is always hard and it
Speaker 2: is always a cultural adjustment. But I just remember a
Speaker 2: time like pre pandemic where I was just like, oh,
Speaker 2: I was terrified every day.
Speaker 1: Every day I was shaking just to be there, just.
Speaker 2: To be there and yeah, would have never Yeah, I
Speaker 2: went there.
Speaker 3: I was ninety seven when I went there, And I
Speaker 3: mean that I see was clarity now, Like the nineties
Speaker 3: were so rough, like rough, rough.
Speaker 1: Rough, what sense? What do you mean?
Speaker 3: Like kindness was not in fashion and it would get
Speaker 3: worse from there, and no mental health was like what yeah,
Speaker 3: what what are you talking about? Yeah, and that's why
Speaker 3: everyone ended up with some form of like temporary kind
Speaker 3: of OCD and PTA. You know. But even just when
Speaker 3: you look back at you just look back at like
Speaker 3: nineties Letterman interviews, Yeah, and you're like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 3: she's just like haranguing teenager. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, and we
Speaker 3: were like ha ha ha, yeah that dumb slag, Yeah exactly.
Speaker 3: That was the fifty five year old man told that
Speaker 3: dumb teenager.
Speaker 1: Will never be the same after that. Well, but like.
Speaker 2: The Paris Hiltan thing, I still I mean it's rough,
Speaker 2: Like I don't like celebrate that interview necessarily. It is
Speaker 2: incredible and the most unman in the best not the
Speaker 2: best way, but in a way that you're like, it's Letterman.
Speaker 2: And then I talked about this before. It was the
Speaker 2: thing that like andresident and I watched and we're like, so,
Speaker 2: I guess the Iceberg should be like I want to
Speaker 2: talk about this thing and not talk about this Yeah
Speaker 2: you know what I mean modeled it after that. Yeah
Speaker 2: oh really yeah yeah yeah, Like we watched that, we
Speaker 2: were like, okay, so like I just want to I
Speaker 2: just want to talk about my other thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But it was like that was the nineties too. It
Speaker 2: was like really fucking yeah, making you squirm a bit.
Speaker 3: And there's just for so many things, even people like
Speaker 3: if you've seen that again, these are all people that
Speaker 3: I you know, hold nothing against them. But like there's
Speaker 3: some old Conan clip where the lady from Melrose Places,
Speaker 3: Oh gosh, someone else, the other blonde lady, Courtney Thorn
Speaker 3: thank you so much.
Speaker 1: First of all, I think thank you.
Speaker 2: I believe.
Speaker 3: I believe it's Courtney Thorn Smith, and I forget maybe
Speaker 3: it's like I don't know if it's Conan once a
Speaker 3: ant Norm on the other side or something. And they're
Speaker 3: just like doing a bit, like some kind of bit
Speaker 3: that that she looks really hot whatever, and she's just
Speaker 3: trying to tell her story from whatever it is, the
Speaker 3: pre interview of like a funny thing that happened and
Speaker 3: it's like two maniacs on either side of her, and
Speaker 3: you're just like, oh, yeah, that we're not doing that anymore.
Speaker 3: But at the time it was like ha ha, yeah, okay,
Speaker 3: and those are like Conan is a lovely, kind, involved,
Speaker 3: intelligent person. We all were I should probably try to
Speaker 3: think of a story that I tell on myself instead
Speaker 3: of like but they were.
Speaker 1: Like, we were just hard. We were hard people. Well,
Speaker 1: we had Seth Meyers on the show like probably a
Speaker 1: month ago, and he was saying that like the best
Speaker 1: time like that. He felt like the winning season was
Speaker 1: probably like two thousand and eight, two thousand and nine,
Speaker 1: like obviously when you when I went back, Sarah, do
Speaker 1: you feel that way too?
Speaker 3: Well, I feel like that was a crazy good time
Speaker 3: and Seth was pad writer and was doing a great
Speaker 3: job and the world wasn't as dark, and yeah, for me,
Speaker 3: I felt like that was my like prayer for Owen
Speaker 3: meanie moment where I was like, it was I born
Speaker 3: to look like this lady, I guess so, yeah, but
Speaker 3: now it all seems so gentle.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was there, I remember, I was I was
Speaker 1: literally there. I remember. One of the coolest ones was
Speaker 1: it was the I guess weekend up date Tuesday or Wednesday,
Speaker 1: Thursday special Thursday thing. Yes, they would add those things.
Speaker 1: And I was at the time like a standby person,
Speaker 1: like I would wait all the time. And so someone
Speaker 1: at the line like was like, yeah, they actually they
Speaker 1: give us tickets to the Thursday thing, So here's you go,
Speaker 1: and it was you Will Ferrell and I guess Darrel
Speaker 1: Hammond right like, and he was.
Speaker 3: Doing bush and stuff. Yep, I think I remember that
Speaker 3: was the one that my parents were like, that was
Speaker 3: a little too far.
Speaker 1: They were because they're republic that was a little too far.
Speaker 3: I forget what. I don't remember what the jokes were, right,
Speaker 3: they were on board and then they got back on board.
Speaker 2: This is I don't think i've This is personally important
Speaker 2: to me and I will never forget this. But I matriculated,
Speaker 2: it lived with my sister, was not in student housing,
Speaker 2: and so I was very socially anxious about meeting new people.
Speaker 2: And I had researched the improv group at Nay in
Speaker 2: April of senior of high school, and I'm reaching out
Speaker 2: to the Facebook page throw Back and I message the
Speaker 2: facebook page, when do you guys hold auditions. Does it
Speaker 2: work against me if I'm not in Tish, if I'm
Speaker 2: just a science major, does it work against Irish? And
Speaker 2: then the person who answered me was Anda dressing like hey,
Speaker 2: so fun but just like cosmically there was something about that,
Speaker 2: and then she was like, don't worry, good luck with
Speaker 2: your many forad rentals, like bye, and then auditioned for
Speaker 2: the improv group made it to the final round and
Speaker 2: then I was like, I really hope I get this.
Speaker 2: Got the email from anadress and saying we're so sorry.
Speaker 1: Oh fuck.
Speaker 2: We were floored by everybody. Please start your own groups.
Speaker 2: We shouldn't be the only game in town. Blah blah
Speaker 2: blah game in town being NYU, the only improv group
Speaker 2: at NYU. I was like, okay, licking my wounds. My
Speaker 2: sister had gone out. I had the apartment to myself.
Speaker 2: It was Saturday, Michael Phelps episode of SNL Tina Nam.
Speaker 2: It were just going on as Hillary and Sarah. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I get the call during the cold open live from
Speaker 2: Anna being liked. We talked about it, just kidding we're
Speaker 2: taking on two people and you and like you're in
Speaker 2: the group. And then it was like this crazy shift
Speaker 2: like something like.
Speaker 1: The culture decided to be good. Well no, no, no, it
Speaker 1: was just it was just like we're gonna it's gonna
Speaker 1: be a good time.
Speaker 2: The trajectory was like perturbed in like the best way
Speaker 2: for me possible.
Speaker 1: But like you were like the fact I caused it.
Speaker 1: You caused it, and no matter what you were like.
Speaker 3: And Amy didn't, it was it was you.
Speaker 2: But anyway, that's what I like will always fondly remember, not.
Speaker 3: That Oh that's a great memory. That's a great memory.
Speaker 2: Okay, but is this the thing then, like starting at
Speaker 2: SNL when you did, or coming back whatever the after
Speaker 2: party culture is at any given time, is that informing
Speaker 2: what you and Amy do after the show, because where
Speaker 2: you're like, well let's just.
Speaker 1: Go to bed.
Speaker 3: Oh no, I mean we used to. I mean we'll
Speaker 3: we were at SNL. We used to go out until
Speaker 3: I had my first child, and then I would sometimes
Speaker 3: begrudgingly go and.
Speaker 1: They, like you have to say with Laura.
Speaker 2: I'd be like, okay, yeah, I'm at that stage, but
Speaker 2: I'm childless. Childless yeah, actual, but.
Speaker 3: We used to go, but I never was an after
Speaker 3: after that was always I'm like, yeah.
Speaker 1: I can't imagine what that would even be No.
Speaker 3: I remember I feel like one time Tracy Morgan had
Speaker 3: like he did, like an illegal private casino somewhere the
Speaker 3: draft went to Like the next day, I was like,
Speaker 3: was insane.
Speaker 2: Of course.
Speaker 1: I mean, but speaking of all this culture so that
Speaker 1: we're talking about, in many ways, culture that made us
Speaker 1: side culture was for us. We have to ask you
Speaker 1: this question, and it is, of course a difficult question
Speaker 1: that has really open to interpretation. But Tina Fey, what
Speaker 1: was the culture that made you say culture is for me?
Speaker 3: Okay, I've been thinking about this question. I struggled to
Speaker 3: understand it, but I think I'm going to try to
Speaker 3: frame it like have you ever done those? I am from.
Speaker 1: Yes, oh yeah, So if.
Speaker 3: We frame it that way, I'm also much older than you, guys,
Speaker 3: and so I'm really going back. I may say things
Speaker 3: that mean nothing to you, right, I mean like I
Speaker 3: am from watching Benny Hill as.
Speaker 1: A family, Yes, yes, yes, what yeah, watching.
Speaker 3: A weird old man ogle women be kings being like
Speaker 3: this is formative his family, like it's on PBS. Guys.
Speaker 3: I am from you know a time when it just
Speaker 3: our whole life was you go to Blockbuster, you rent
Speaker 3: the stepfather you rent the now incredibly problematic sleep away camp.
Speaker 3: That's like and you watch it with your you know,
Speaker 3: gay friends. So but again, if you want to talk
Speaker 3: about how hard it is, like cackling, like knowing, like
Speaker 3: it's horrible, like yeah, or like it's me and my
Speaker 3: best friend Marlene going to Pretty Woman when it first
Speaker 3: came out and immediately cackling, being like we're the only
Speaker 3: ones that know that she's a sex worker and this
Speaker 3: is grim right that, Like, Okay, this week it's Richard Gear,
Speaker 3: but every other week it's terrible, you know, cackling.
Speaker 1: What else? I mean?
Speaker 3: Real World New York Season? Why I guys, I remember
Speaker 3: getting up early with my brother to see the beginning
Speaker 3: of MTV Wow, the first.
Speaker 1: Video like Downtown Julie Brown like video killed there, like.
Speaker 3: Getting up to see Live Aid and being so and
Speaker 3: being so pomped that it was partly in Philadelphia and
Speaker 3: guys like Phil collins Is on the concord. You guys
Speaker 3: see Phil collins Is.
Speaker 1: On the concord.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was for whatever reason, because the quality of
Speaker 3: the venue it was in wherever it wasn't Wembley, a guess,
Speaker 3: and like Veterans Stadium or something must have been the.
Speaker 2: I'm silly and stupid and I thought it was just
Speaker 2: in the UKN know.
Speaker 3: And that was the big thing was they were like
Speaker 3: Phil Collins is gonna play with this band and then
Speaker 3: get on the concord and play again. What else is formed?
Speaker 3: Who I am? You know?
Speaker 1: Sheila the Glamorous Life?
Speaker 4: Wow?
Speaker 1: Thanks for that, you know, Kelly Clarkson just brought her back.
Speaker 1: Sheila is on Kelly Clarkson's album and I feel like
Speaker 1: no one talks about on the last RAF. Yes, like yeah,
Speaker 1: he gave her a special culture award. We did. We
Speaker 1: gave her like a we gave her something. She's been
Speaker 1: recognized by this podcast.
Speaker 2: Good.
Speaker 1: I'm glad she must What else can I give you?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 3: The Divinyls? I touched myself. That was like or like
Speaker 3: me trying to have to no success, trying to convince
Speaker 3: people that our junior prom theme should be there must
Speaker 3: be an Angel by e Rhythmic. I was just going
Speaker 3: to keep writing these papers and putting it in the box.
Speaker 1: Now what wasn't Ultimately under the.
Speaker 3: Well it was like Brian Adams Heaven. And then I
Speaker 3: think maybe senior year was maybe like this is the
Speaker 3: time Billy Joel.
Speaker 1: New song.
Speaker 2: I wow, but this is the thing where I go,
Speaker 2: how would I have done? How would any of us do?
Speaker 2: In like a bygone time?
Speaker 3: You would love it.
Speaker 1: The Blackbuster of it all really resonates because it's also
Speaker 1: about going to Blockbuster and only ever renting two things,
Speaker 1: running two things over and over over and over over
Speaker 1: and over.
Speaker 3: Watching another one was like a rach andophobia was a
Speaker 3: big one. I feel like there's a Martin Sheen one
Speaker 3: that I can't think of that was like a horror movie.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's what.
Speaker 3: And like also with my two good friends Jim and Damien,
Speaker 3: who are brothers, who between the two of them.
Speaker 1: Are the amalgam that are the basis for the Yea.
Speaker 3: And in their house they had a back staircase that
Speaker 3: had been closed off and made into a pantry that
Speaker 3: was full of every kind of junk food and get
Speaker 3: after it and also just like it like it was
Speaker 3: the eight is like no one did fitness. Your outfit
Speaker 3: was like a high collar thing with a blazer. It
Speaker 3: was just like then. There was drank so much soda.
Speaker 3: Would eat like a cheese HOGI so like a twelve
Speaker 3: inch hogy with three kinds of cheese, and then still
Speaker 3: able to.
Speaker 1: Poop exactly the body and just think I'm trying to
Speaker 1: think culturally too.
Speaker 3: It was like VC Andrew's flowers in the attic flowers,
Speaker 3: reading those on like the beach at the Jersey Shore,
Speaker 3: or like on the trolley to work. Other weird things,
Speaker 3: things that I don't realize are like I was obsessed
Speaker 3: with Paul Young. That was like every time you go away.
Speaker 1: Originally it's like boy music. Well he was super cute.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, yeah, And like sc TV used to be
Speaker 3: on after SNL three weekends a month, and then the
Speaker 3: fourth weekend it was wrestling and he'd be.
Speaker 1: Like, uh, who did you imprint on on SCTV was
Speaker 1: a Catherine, Oh my.
Speaker 3: Gosh, Catherine, Yeah for sure, Andrea aspirational free song.
Speaker 1: As you say, did I use that right? You used that?
Speaker 2: You absolutely used so is the word of twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1: It's like we need translate.
Speaker 2: It's just like a feeling of like something in the.
Speaker 1: Airporia, like when something is like, oh, I have the
Speaker 1: free song thinking about this one.
Speaker 2: It's the table I.
Speaker 1: Got the I got the free song thinking about getting
Speaker 1: us on Guardians of the Beautiful Ride. I think that
Speaker 1: the boy music thing is like that is also a
Speaker 1: thing like the men of the eighties and nineties, you
Speaker 1: were allowed to be yeah, but like there was something
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, like set aside, like ogly and stuff.
Speaker 1: But like the men of that time, hot, I sound
Speaker 1: insane for saying that, don't You could look up to
Speaker 1: men in a way that was like fine, Yeah, you
Speaker 1: could look up to men and be like I'm okay, okay,
Speaker 1: I weren't worried about what they were up to.
Speaker 3: Maybe, but I.
Speaker 2: Mean even that, I mean I think they were.
Speaker 1: They were good Americans, good Americans that's the name of this,
Speaker 1: not literally good American.
Speaker 3: But we also I mean we also were like Janet Jackson,
Speaker 3: Madonna go gos like that's along the rhythmics. I remember
Speaker 3: also remember when e Rhythmics came out, like when the
Speaker 3: first Sweet Dreams came out, and we were like people
Speaker 3: were scared of them. Yeah, she was like different, Like
Speaker 3: she had that short hair and she was wearing a
Speaker 3: suit and everyone was.
Speaker 1: Like what she was hantipop And even when she did
Speaker 1: like diva and like did do her own thing, like
Speaker 1: it was still there was something sinister about it in
Speaker 1: a way that I love.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like yeah, just gender Bendy or the.
Speaker 1: Song why by Annie Lennox. I want that. As I'm
Speaker 1: lowered into the ground, I think remember that.
Speaker 3: I do say revisit. There must be an angel.
Speaker 1: It's beautiful, okay. And also I mean walking on broken
Speaker 1: Glass like there's a reason for it. Someone's gonna sample
Speaker 1: that song and it's going to be just appear stranger things. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: like like that song taking off the bush of it all.
Speaker 2: I'm happy for the rediscovery.
Speaker 1: As you guys talked.
Speaker 3: About this that that's the year of the the needle drop.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, do you watch the Bear? No? Okay, I
Speaker 1: have seen some of them, but not all of that.
Speaker 1: Probably one of the most famous needle drops of this
Speaker 1: year is Taylor Swift love story on Oh they did that.
Speaker 1: They did that, and to get the Taylor Swift song
Speaker 1: must have cost a lot of money, so thankfully it
Speaker 1: paid off on the Bear. The Bearri you're doing excellent. Yes,
Speaker 1: you guys are crushing it out there. They really are.
Speaker 1: They really are. It's so wild to see her like
Speaker 1: sleigh drama like this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I know.
Speaker 3: I have to go back and get into it so
Speaker 3: I can see where her character arc went because I know.
Speaker 1: She's so good, and I think it was like I
Speaker 1: always like, of course coming up with her, like we
Speaker 1: always knew she was so talented. But then I was
Speaker 1: watching Bottoms. Did you see bottom? Yes, I was watching
Speaker 1: her on screen. There's a scene where the camera gets
Speaker 1: way up in her face and I think she's having
Speaker 1: a moment with her love interest, and I'm like, you
Speaker 1: got it, girl, she got it big time. We were
Speaker 1: big time.
Speaker 2: You were in the edit yesterday for this pre tape.
Speaker 2: Every take, I was like, oh, I don't know, she
Speaker 2: knows where to find the can the camera, but like
Speaker 2: and it would cut to me and it'd.
Speaker 1: Be like no, no, no, but when you know what
Speaker 1: to do with the camera. Do we all have this?
Speaker 2: Do we all have this thing where it's this there
Speaker 2: is some dysmorphia if not might be the right word.
Speaker 2: But it's like I think it's getting worse and worse
Speaker 2: for me in terms of watching myself.
Speaker 3: I've reached a point where I don't do it like
Speaker 3: unless I'm in unless it's something that I'm in charge
Speaker 3: of them is like I have to edit it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, I'm going to make this movie and
Speaker 3: I have an idea. I'm never gonna watch it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got it, and that's like freeing. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: know when it came out about the four seasons. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the gay group chats were popping. That's really excited.
Speaker 3: I'm excited about that too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is gonna be good.
Speaker 2: That's a good link up again with with Tracy and.
Speaker 3: With oh Tracy and Lang the best Tracy, Tracy Wakefield
Speaker 3: and Lang Fish.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's going to the gays that remember the
Speaker 1: movie were like like they were very right. Oh that's great.
Speaker 1: Oh no, yeah, they're lining up already. I can't get
Speaker 1: over that. My two movies from Blackbuster were The First
Speaker 1: Wives Club and Golden Eye.
Speaker 3: That's that was my personality, Like First Club, that makes sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, First Wives Club. So you watch it now and
Speaker 1: you're like, it's so a movie of the nineties where
Speaker 1: it's just like it takes a bit to get into
Speaker 1: being a movie. Yeah, and then yeah, then it is,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But I kind of missed
Speaker 1: the days where it was just like, no, the first
Speaker 1: half hour is just gonna be a lot of relationship building. Yep,
Speaker 1: like a lot.
Speaker 2: Is it any first talk stuff that actually ever pays
Speaker 2: off in the end. No, right, that felt like a
Speaker 2: ninety thing where it was like you just I.
Speaker 1: Think it's all worth it to watch them at the
Speaker 1: end saying you don't owe me. And I can't remember
Speaker 1: anything else about the movie besides that. And you know
Speaker 1: who else you forget is in that movie? Kind of
Speaker 1: crushing its SVP.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's great in that movie.
Speaker 1: So good.
Speaker 3: She's great in that movie. She's great in La Story.
Speaker 1: Yes, she's great in Edwood.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, this wait a minute, when Edward is so great?
Speaker 1: That's a really good one. Okay, I've got two weeks off. Yeah, wow,
Speaker 1: you do have two weeks off.
Speaker 2: I'm excited. I'm not going anywhere. I'm going to the Beacond.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, except the big the Beacon. So wait,
Speaker 1: when you would have a vacation from SNL back in
Speaker 1: the day, would you go or would you just sit?
Speaker 1: Would you bedrot?
Speaker 3: I think I mostly just sat. I feel like people
Speaker 3: at S and I'll do much better sort of self
Speaker 3: care and living their lives. But I think in the beginning,
Speaker 3: my now husband was still in Chicago, so sometimes I
Speaker 3: would go back to Chicago for the yeah or whatever.
Speaker 3: But but no, I didn't I never took one real vacation. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm just still learning how to do that. I'm like,
Speaker 3: all right, you book a trip and then you go there.
Speaker 2: Yeah right, I've never developed I don't think I think
Speaker 2: my time is up, like I think if I haven't
Speaker 2: learned by now to like book a vacation on the
Speaker 2: two weeks off, and I don't think I ever will
Speaker 2: for my remaining time there. I'm just like I don't
Speaker 2: have that thing of like that admin thing of like
Speaker 2: let me book an airbnb or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I think it's I think there's something about working
Speaker 2: there that like makes you want to stay put because
Speaker 2: you're just like moving around a lot or something.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you need to recover. Yeah, the thought of going
Speaker 3: to the airport doesn't seem good after that.
Speaker 2: No, never ever, I literally did this when you were
Speaker 2: in town last season, where I would like do a
Speaker 2: show on Saturday. My flight was at eight am, after
Speaker 2: daylight savings after the spring clock jumped forward, so I
Speaker 2: lost an hour and then went to the airport to
Speaker 2: go to London to then yeah shoot, and I was
Speaker 2: just like this is actually this is ct Like there's
Speaker 2: part of my brain that's leaving and so I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think, oh my god, that's sketch. Last night when
Speaker 3: I was like, and when the wind blows.
Speaker 1: I could feel who wrote that?
Speaker 2: Shout out to Asha Ward hilarious is crush. She's this
Speaker 2: she's a new young writer. She co wrote this elevator
Speaker 2: sketch with us as well. She is so damn funny.
Speaker 2: And yeah, so she she said that line I said
Speaker 2: on Tuesday night when she was pitching it, which was
Speaker 2: like kind of like going around with the idea. She's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's based off this People's Court, this actual People's Court
Speaker 2: episode was the plaintiff did have like the haircut, was
Speaker 2: that her scalp was showing obviously not her actual brain.
Speaker 2: But then was like, I think we're going to make
Speaker 2: it her brain in the sketches, Like that's amazing it
Speaker 2: and then she goes, yeah, and I think I wanted
Speaker 2: to say when the wind blows, I can feel my
Speaker 2: memory like being blown away, and I threw my head back.
Speaker 2: I was like, you have to put.
Speaker 1: That, Yeah, you must, you must. I did want to ask,
Speaker 1: so like when you're at SNL and also you're at
Speaker 1: the same time writing mean girls, like I guess I'm
Speaker 1: what I'm wondering is like, how long did it take
Speaker 1: you to do that? Because I remember, like literally at
Speaker 1: the time reading interviews with you where you were like
Speaker 1: I just wanted to see if I could do it, yeah,
Speaker 1: and then you so obviously could, But like, how what
Speaker 1: was that process of like juggling that, because that seems
Speaker 1: like a lot of work all the time.
Speaker 3: I am trying to remember. I know I did a
Speaker 3: bunch of it in the summer. I feel like maybe
Speaker 3: it was over two summers because it was the first
Speaker 3: time we rented a house in Fire Island on we
Speaker 3: let the fire on a guest Tire had recommended just
Speaker 3: doing that, and we went and trash picked a desk
Speaker 3: and we carried it. I remember Jeff's arms got like
Speaker 3: a huge because you never it's not fireround if you
Speaker 3: don't get a weird rash, and he like immediately got
Speaker 3: a ration and I was like, oh, I think there
Speaker 3: was deer p all over the or something, and so
Speaker 3: the I must have been doing first draft the first
Speaker 3: summer and then the shooting. I remember the second summer
Speaker 3: was the shooting draft. Because I would get Mark Waters,
Speaker 3: the director, I would get pages of notes every day
Speaker 3: and I'd be like, I think I did it and
Speaker 3: then be like, Okay, let's go through today again. He's
Speaker 3: like page four and I'd be yeah, but he was right.
Speaker 3: It was like it was stuff of like where are
Speaker 3: they this that? Could this be short? It was like
Speaker 3: a lot of technical stuff, and there was an amazing
Speaker 3: woman named Jill Messick who worked for Laura at the time.
Speaker 3: She also was just like poking me okay, like a
Speaker 3: lot of drafts between in between unofficial drafts. So I
Speaker 3: don't think I was doing it. I must have been
Speaker 3: doing it on weeks off.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think.
Speaker 3: I don't have a memory of doing it a trying
Speaker 3: to do it at the same time as the actual show.
Speaker 1: Like only because like and obviously like the movie is
Speaker 1: so perfect. It's just everything. It's one of those things
Speaker 1: that like just falls into place in every way. Like
Speaker 1: I remember we were saying it was one of those
Speaker 1: movies where you sat down and watched it and I
Speaker 1: knew I was going to and had to remember every
Speaker 1: line was happening. I saw with my cousin and I
Speaker 1: was just like, this is a really special thing. And
Speaker 1: then going to school, I remember like I was like
Speaker 1: all the track girls. I used to run winter. I
Speaker 1: used this is a specific but I would run track
Speaker 1: and I would practice with all the girls because we
Speaker 1: would just talk about things like this and everyone knew
Speaker 1: all the lines. And it was so funny because I
Speaker 1: watched my one friend sort of I could tell she
Speaker 1: wanted to be like Regina George in a way where
Speaker 1: she didn't really get it. I was like, you don't
Speaker 1: want to be actually mean, like, but the way she
Speaker 1: started speaking, I'm like it truly remember it was that Anchorman. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was like and I remember as a gay kid too,
Speaker 1: I learned the language of mean girls because that was
Speaker 1: what all the girls were doing, and then Anchorman was
Speaker 1: what all the boys were doing, and so it was
Speaker 1: sort of this like code switch. Yeah, and I remember
Speaker 1: taking my dad to see it and like he was
Speaker 1: so excited because it was coming from you. And I
Speaker 1: remember it was just like this like moment that felt
Speaker 1: like a unifier, like in high school, because everyone thought
Speaker 1: it was funny. Everyone thought the cast was amazing, And
Speaker 1: I really wanted to ask about Rachel mcaddam because this
Speaker 1: is essentially is a Rachel McAdam stand podcast. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: could just talk about her and yeah, but like I
Speaker 1: was re an interview with you recently where you were
Speaker 1: like you mentioned like watching her act like change the
Speaker 1: way that you approached.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I had never been in a movie before,
Speaker 3: and I didn't know what I would go and be
Speaker 3: in the scene. I'd only done SNL and I wasn't
Speaker 3: even really in sketches on SNL, just an update, So
Speaker 3: I'd be like I would literally be like in my head,
Speaker 3: I'd be like, I don't know if I'm on camera
Speaker 3: right now, so I'm gonna try real hard every time. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Like didn't know to even ask if I'm in this
Speaker 3: part of the setup. And she her performance was so
Speaker 3: small that I remember being worried and going to park
Speaker 3: watch and be like, oh, and then you get the
Speaker 3: dailies and it was like, yes, perfection, but it was
Speaker 3: very it was small. It was a film performance. It
Speaker 3: wasn't like me.
Speaker 1: Like we at that all the time, like the sketch
Speaker 1: mentality of coming in in one mode, especially like because
Speaker 1: we didn't have any acting training coming up, we were
Speaker 1: like creatures of the basements, you know, like any of us,
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, you book a thing
Speaker 1: where you have to be on camera acting and they're like, hey,
Speaker 1: just throw it away, and like, I don't know what,
Speaker 1: but you learned.
Speaker 3: But the difference is then when you see when you
Speaker 3: see people on SNL, when you see someone like Io
Speaker 3: who understands the assignment to use a now old phrase.
Speaker 1: Yeah though it's bad, it, I brought it back.
Speaker 3: She understands what she's supposed to do and what sketch requires.
Speaker 3: And then you compare to well, not name names, but
Speaker 3: you see people who come in who have only ever
Speaker 3: done film, whose performances are built in the edit room, right,
Speaker 3: who have no internal sense of pacing or even energy. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and you and oh they can fuck up a show.
Speaker 1: But they can slay the pre tape. They can play
Speaker 1: the pre tape, pre tapes for them, pre tape.
Speaker 2: That literally all we want to tell people now at SNL,
Speaker 2: Like all I tell the hosts all the time. On Wednesdays,
Speaker 2: especially at the reath thro I go fast, and we
Speaker 2: were just like just do it fast and loud, fast
Speaker 2: and loud wow, and that usually it is plenty of
Speaker 2: syles it in. It's plenty.
Speaker 3: Yeah. That's why Amy talks about how because we do
Speaker 3: a Q and A and our show and like we
Speaker 3: often get asked, like, you know, who are your favorite
Speaker 3: guests and stuff, and she's like, I love athletes because
Speaker 3: they're used to being coached and they don't care, and
Speaker 3: you just be like, just do that. They just do
Speaker 3: it louder and like say it and they're like okay ah.
Speaker 1: You also get a sense that anyone with like a
Speaker 1: Disney hid passed yep, comes in there and tears it
Speaker 1: up yep.
Speaker 3: Also, by the way, people who've done then there are
Speaker 3: fewer and fewer of these people, but used to be
Speaker 3: people who had done soaps, because like, you know, who's
Speaker 3: got to start on soaps. Alec Baldwin.
Speaker 1: Julianne Moore, Yes, Julian, make a choice, Make a choice
Speaker 1: and go get Lisa Rinna. Oh, come on, Lisa, Julian Moore.
Speaker 1: I think, well, and that's I think our favorite movie
Speaker 1: of the years May December, We Love Me.
Speaker 3: That's your favorite movie?
Speaker 1: There.
Speaker 3: I enjoyed it, but that I haven't watched Four Things.
Speaker 1: Oh, you'd like four Things. It's Emma's Emma's another one
Speaker 1: like comes in and like just obviously gets it, yeah,
Speaker 1: and gets it, gets it on camera obviously. But Julian Moore,
Speaker 1: I guess because what's so fun about the movie is
Speaker 1: it's like purposefully a melodrama, right that insane music. That
Speaker 1: music was She's like, we're out of hot time, yeah,
Speaker 1: her insane accident. But then she was talking about like
Speaker 1: she's like, well, you know, I started in soaps and
Speaker 1: I actually did the archetype of like the Twins, the twins,
Speaker 1: the evil twins, like the Amnesia twin. So it wasn't
Speaker 1: even just amnesia or just twin. It was both acting
Speaker 1: opposite herself, wanting to kill herself, incredible kill the other.
Speaker 1: But like, there's all the sense in the world to me.
Speaker 2: But you said about Alex too though, where it's like
Speaker 2: they're the Rachel McAdams thing where it's like just so quiet, Yes,
Speaker 2: it's gonna work, and then you watch the you're like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, oh my god. Yeah.
Speaker 3: And sometimes you know, real stars they don't really do
Speaker 3: what they're going to do till you're on their close up,
Speaker 3: and so you know, you look at those first two
Speaker 3: seasons of thirty Out Rock and I'm like hey, and
Speaker 3: he's like, you won that one.
Speaker 2: I won that one.
Speaker 1: It really is well though, because you do a take
Speaker 1: and they're like, okay, we're moving on and you're like,
Speaker 1: there's no way we can. I didn't do anything, and
Speaker 1: they're like, no, you get the performance of a lifetime.
Speaker 1: You just won't ever know because it wasn't fun for
Speaker 1: you at all, right, Yeah, but it worked for us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, back to Mean Girls really quickly. How many times
Speaker 2: did you see in theater? Because you brought your dad
Speaker 2: so I saw.
Speaker 1: You. Oh, come on. I mean, like, first of all,
Speaker 1: like I wonder how this feels too, because to join
Speaker 1: this thing of like it was like Heather's Clueless and
Speaker 1: then it's Mean Girls, and that has to be really meaningful,
Speaker 1: very meaningful for me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because those you know how those and Clueless were
Speaker 3: huge informative.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, this is my thing. This is my
Speaker 2: specificity with it is there was like a website two
Speaker 2: thousand and four and five in that time of the
Speaker 2: Internet called like the Script Database or something, and they
Speaker 2: would either have the screenplay, the original screenplay of the
Speaker 2: movie any movie you could think of, if they had
Speaker 2: it the original actual PDF or the scan or whatever
Speaker 2: of the script, or they would have a transcript. And
Speaker 2: then I remember reaching out to the admin of that
Speaker 2: being like I will transcribe Mean Girls for you. And
Speaker 2: then he did you do it? And I did it,
Speaker 2: and then and this guy was like, God bless you.
Speaker 2: The demand for a movie has never been higher than
Speaker 2: for you. I was like, I'm gonna do it. And
Speaker 2: I wrote the fucking like the Slugs, and I didn't
Speaker 2: transscribed me and girls. He was like, well you were fourteen. Wow,
Speaker 2: this is what I said. I said, I can get
Speaker 2: you the script. And then this guy, this like thirty
Speaker 2: year old man, was probably like, you mean the actual
Speaker 2: like Tina Fey, like the draft. I was like, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna type out what they say.
Speaker 1: I like didn't know. I didn't know what. I didn't
Speaker 1: know what he was looking for.
Speaker 2: It was like, I don't care, I'll take a transcript.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, that's yes, of course transcribing. Yes,
Speaker 2: I will write out what they say. I'll see Katie
Speaker 2: says that, you know, like yeah, that was the level
Speaker 2: of like eazy, fucking yeah.
Speaker 1: There's like joy in every scene. And I guess what
Speaker 1: I feel is like you forget like that such big
Speaker 1: deals came out of that movie to like Amanda Seifrid,
Speaker 1: like she's just so in the fabric of the movie
Speaker 1: having fun doing her part that you forget that she
Speaker 1: would then become like yeah, hello, And I mean it
Speaker 1: was it's like that down to to everything. And I
Speaker 1: wonder like, in shooting it, did you know that it
Speaker 1: was like did you have a feeling that there was
Speaker 1: something special happening? Which feels like a question, boring question,
Speaker 1: But because it did end up being culturally significant, thank you.
Speaker 3: I feel like, I mean, part of the reason that
Speaker 3: it worked is because those girls were so legit and
Speaker 3: took it seriously and played and played it so real,
Speaker 3: you know, if they had been campy about it, because
Speaker 3: I think that's the thing I try to sometimes pass
Speaker 3: on and whatever writershims whatever, it's like, no one, no
Speaker 3: villain thinks they're they're No one's the villain in their story.
Speaker 3: Like Regina's whole thing is like it's hard, like she's
Speaker 3: gonna come crying to me and then I gotta help her, Like, yeah,
Speaker 3: no one's the villain in their own story, right, And
Speaker 3: I think they all played that perfectly because you know,
Speaker 3: and you can see now like, oh, Regina's villain, janis villain,
Speaker 3: Kate is a huge villain. Like everyone's making mistakes and
Speaker 3: they played them all perfectly. But you know. I think
Speaker 3: I was just at that place of like basically like
Speaker 3: is it gonna air? You know, we're gonna, We're gonna
Speaker 3: it's gonna get made. That was the That was the
Speaker 3: triumph in my mind.
Speaker 2: That's refreshing to hear because I think I think Matt
Speaker 2: and I are in that mindset right now. We're just
Speaker 2: like we're working on things and we're just like, let's
Speaker 2: just not worry about the contours of this. Let's just
Speaker 2: like the goal is just to get it made, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean.
Speaker 3: I read this book. I think it's called like Wild
Speaker 3: and Crazy Guys, and it's just a little nonfiction book
Speaker 3: about that span of time where like it's like Steve Martin,
Speaker 3: Eddie Murphy, Bill Murray Dan. It's like all of when
Speaker 3: they all were blowing up and what movies got made
Speaker 3: and whatever, and so many of these movies that are
Speaker 3: just cannon to us.
Speaker 1: They were like didn't really open.
Speaker 3: And you're like I don't care, Like you know, I
Speaker 3: watched it one hundred thousand times, whatever. The Man with
Speaker 3: Two Brains or like that was just there just were movies,
Speaker 3: you know, and to like not worry too much about like.
Speaker 1: How it does how it does, how many theaters it
Speaker 1: is just you wonder, like how many things we would
Speaker 1: actually love so much that it just get written off.
Speaker 1: I wonder about that all the time, Like with the
Speaker 1: way the industry is now, like how many things aren't
Speaker 1: getting made that like are actually going to be things
Speaker 1: that we think about in fifteen twenty years, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like it feels very far in few
Speaker 1: between that you get something, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well I think movies still are tighter. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Like I feel like TV because there's just so much
Speaker 3: more like you are getting, like you're getting reservation dogs,
Speaker 3: You're getting you know, Simon Rich is weird show where
Speaker 3: the like, uh Simon, we know it's what Bottoms felt like, Yeah,
Speaker 3: totally so refreshing.
Speaker 1: Well, she's incredible must Sellman, the director of that. She's like,
Speaker 1: I think she can do anything she can in Bottom
Speaker 1: and we love Rachel me and so it's happening.
Speaker 3: Like and you know, my daughter's eighteen, my older daughter,
Speaker 3: and that is Bottoms is everything?
Speaker 1: Yeah, really everything?
Speaker 2: Right? Yeah, it's her mean girls in a way. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 2: oh that's so cool. That's so cool. I mean it
Speaker 2: is this thing where like maybe we're just because we're
Speaker 2: like in we have some awareness, we're like reading like
Speaker 2: the Ankler or whatever. But I'm just like the survivorship
Speaker 2: bias of it all is really hitting me where I'm
Speaker 2: just like, oh, yeah, if I think too about things
Speaker 2: that aren't getting me that I start to Ye, I
Speaker 2: started to lose my mind a little.
Speaker 1: I'm still going to the casting of me. Did everyone
Speaker 1: audition for that? Like, did you get a tape from
Speaker 1: Lindzie Kaplan or were you like, gosh, I think so, yeah, probably.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: It just feels like there can have ever been a
Speaker 1: time when there was like not those not It's one
Speaker 1: of those things. It's like, yeah, I think so.
Speaker 2: And Lindsay had worked with Mark before.
Speaker 3: Lindsay had was coming. She had a lot of heat
Speaker 3: coming off of.
Speaker 1: Freaky Friday, and there's waters.
Speaker 3: I think maybe I can't remember. We should fact check
Speaker 3: for sure, but yeah, yeah, I think so. Yeah, And
Speaker 3: she came and she remember she came by s analytists
Speaker 3: to like hang out and be seen because she I
Speaker 3: think she wanted to be considered. She wanted to play Regina,
Speaker 3: which I think yes, And Louren was what always Wise
Speaker 3: was like, no, you want that person to be the
Speaker 3: person who takes the trajectory to yeah, he's like that,
Speaker 3: he's basically that's the part that you want.
Speaker 1: She was like, okay, but was.
Speaker 2: That when both you and Dennis were head writer or
Speaker 2: do he used to Yeah, that's so funny. I love that.
Speaker 3: She was also a killer on sn L, killing people
Speaker 3: who like acted as kids.
Speaker 1: Also, they're just like, where do I stand? And what
Speaker 1: do I say?
Speaker 3: Let's do it, Miley Cyrus, where do I stand?
Speaker 1: What do I say? Everything?
Speaker 3: We need to push more children into show.
Speaker 1: We need to feed the s n L.
Speaker 3: Host pipeline by ruining children.
Speaker 2: If there is like some sort of surgical neuralink type
Speaker 2: procedure to just to implant that thing, an actress of
Speaker 2: just like stand here, say it loud, saying you.
Speaker 1: Guys had that at the same time too, that must
Speaker 1: be like, yeah.
Speaker 2: That's not what you would say that, And then this
Speaker 2: lesson I say that now, like to all the hosts,
Speaker 2: we're just like, just project, that's that's our thing. But
Speaker 2: we're nice, but we're not like we're just like, yeah,
Speaker 2: just just loud.
Speaker 1: I bet it does anyway.
Speaker 3: I mean incredible, they really were, I mean from home,
Speaker 3: they were nice.
Speaker 1: They were nice. Are you watching every week?
Speaker 3: Not every single week, but I try. You know. What
Speaker 3: sort of got me back into the was was Alice
Speaker 3: being old enough to and love wanting to stay up
Speaker 3: and watch it.
Speaker 1: But she was not home last.
Speaker 3: Night because she was at the cast party for her
Speaker 3: own high school musical. They did well the prom.
Speaker 1: She killed it.
Speaker 3: They all killed it. They were all great.
Speaker 1: That makes sounds like production. Oh that's even more.
Speaker 2: That's all that I know.
Speaker 1: It was super cute of the prom. Okay, so that
Speaker 1: is a hilarious. So I to think about someone playing
Speaker 1: d as like a child.
Speaker 3: By the way, girl killed killed. I wish I had
Speaker 3: video for you because she killed I bet.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's the people. If you could do
Speaker 1: one role, what would it be. I'm like, it'll never happen,
Speaker 1: but I'd love to do In the prom. I had
Speaker 1: to do drag for the show I was in last year,
Speaker 1: and like I put this little wig on, like a
Speaker 1: little you know, side swoop, like not exactly Catherine Zeta,
Speaker 1: but in the world, and I was like, I think
Speaker 1: I am d D. I know I am do you know?
Speaker 3: Jeff Myth and Jeff Yeah, So he often brings up
Speaker 3: that like back in musical theater, like major of college,
Speaker 3: but you take makeup class, and part of makeup class
Speaker 3: was always like you had to do drag or like
Speaker 3: do you have to like you a gender swap with
Speaker 3: your makeup. And he really likes to brag that he looked.
Speaker 3: This may be total reference to she be like I
Speaker 3: was very pretty and I looked like Barbara Mandrel.
Speaker 1: He's like, I was very pretty photos could you confirm?
Speaker 1: I have not seen photos.
Speaker 3: I know he's we'd have to as a beard right now,
Speaker 3: but right but he might shave it for the opportunity.
Speaker 1: We might shave. Just tell him if he wants a stage,
Speaker 1: we do something that call the Culture Awards every year.
Speaker 1: He's welcome to come out and do it.
Speaker 3: Give his and then you can judge whether he still
Speaker 3: looks like Barbara Mandrush Barbara Mandreu.
Speaker 1: Also you're kind of almost there with the drag.
Speaker 2: Name anyway, totally Meandrew, and then this is what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: This is what we're saying. The opportunity, he's like a riper,
Speaker 2: and riper we're not going to judge him. It's going
Speaker 2: to be like a fucking the m a situation where
Speaker 2: he knows ahead of time, you.
Speaker 1: Were saying that's the vas because the Grammys are today,
Speaker 1: and we're like, we think people don't know if they're
Speaker 1: going to win a Grammy, but I think you know
Speaker 1: if you're winning like a VMA. Yeah, I bet yeah,
Speaker 1: because Taylor Swift has changed her Yeah, she's changed her
Speaker 1: Instagram to all black and white, which we believe means
Speaker 1: there's an announcement coming in. And I'm like, well, I
Speaker 1: wonder if Taylor Swift and announce if she's winning a Grammy.
Speaker 1: But like, because if someone could, it's probably Taylor Swift. Right,
Speaker 1: probably you don't know what the Oscars, You don't know
Speaker 1: what the Emmy's. You probably don't know what the Grammys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not people's choice. No no, no, wait, they want
Speaker 1: a ton of these things they call you before.
Speaker 3: No, no, no. I feel like I do remember one
Speaker 3: time with the Golden Globes, like Alec was nominated for
Speaker 3: thirty Rock and he wasn't and he was like, you
Speaker 3: just call him and ask them if I want Yeah,
Speaker 3: because I felt like with that one, maybe you could
Speaker 3: have and I don't think he was able to. And
Speaker 3: I don't remember if he want or not or I don't.
Speaker 3: She was like, surely this one. They'll just tell me
Speaker 3: if I have to go.
Speaker 1: And well, I mean I bet they would if it's Alec,
Speaker 1: especially the Globes at that time. Now, oh, by the way,
Speaker 1: your guys host, would you guys go back and host
Speaker 1: the Gunner? Oh my gosh, I don't know.
Speaker 3: It's a faint because we ended The last time we
Speaker 3: did it was this weird like zoom one.
Speaker 1: That was the bummer.
Speaker 3: But we did used to have so much fun doing that,
Speaker 3: We really did.
Speaker 1: You guys were the best at it.
Speaker 2: Some one can't be the period on the piece, and.
Speaker 3: That's the tricky I have to put the pressure on,
Speaker 3: I know. But maybe we could either try to erase
Speaker 3: the zoom on or yeah, well NBC doesn't own it anymore, right,
Speaker 3: and you know me, you countess Luanne, But we work
Speaker 3: for NBC.
Speaker 2: You got it.
Speaker 1: We're Comcast girl upset for who's in charge of it
Speaker 1: now these days? Right, I will say she was on
Speaker 1: one the other night. She is alive up there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she goes for it. And it's so funny because you
Speaker 1: watched the early seasons. You're like, this, Woe's never going
Speaker 1: to become a Cabaret Star, and then you go to
Speaker 1: fifty four below and she was doing covers of Oh
Speaker 1: What a Night. How do I ask this Toily? Has
Speaker 1: she been.
Speaker 3: Working on her singing? Because everyone does?
Speaker 1: It's so deeply Carl Swift. Here's what I'll say. There
Speaker 1: is a quality to her voice that I think limits
Speaker 1: what it can do. It is so low, it's Carol
Speaker 1: Channing Channing. Yeah, it exists where it exists, And so
Speaker 1: I think we're picking songs that just the keys are
Speaker 1: two steps down from what they even are for the
Speaker 1: men she covers. But I will say there's something sort
Speaker 1: of she really knows her range. She's matching pitch, and
Speaker 1: you're never going to see her like go for the
Speaker 1: money note. In fact, one time she did go for
Speaker 1: the money note, and it was more like, I'm joyfully
Speaker 1: making a big sound than it is I'm hitting a note, which.
Speaker 2: It's just about the selling and the delivery of it.
Speaker 2: I think I think her range, being what it is,
Speaker 2: is the perfect extra dimension performance. And I think she
Speaker 2: knows that now, and I think she's like, let me
Speaker 2: just have fun. Yeah no, I'm not the best singer.
Speaker 2: And we're saying this with love.
Speaker 1: Lou well, there's a.
Speaker 3: Lot of people who Yeah, if it's like, if you
Speaker 3: know how to put your show together, yeah, and give
Speaker 3: people and also if people know what they're signing up for.
Speaker 1: Yes, when we were signing up for four red Sangria
Speaker 1: as I found Yeah, and I don't know, I don't
Speaker 1: know what it was about it that made me feel like,
Speaker 1: this is the drink tonight, sugar, I don't drink you.
Speaker 1: And this is also what got me really fine. I'd
Speaker 1: make like a quote unquote famous Sangria winters Angria for holidays.
Speaker 1: It's just so much booze. And I literally was just
Speaker 1: like yay, And I realized no one likes it as
Speaker 1: much as me. But because I made it, I feel
Speaker 1: it must get consumed and then you're blacked out on
Speaker 1: Christmas and I don't. I don't even get drunk like this.
Speaker 1: It's only when I'm drinking red Sangria.
Speaker 2: And you before pre twenty one, if you didn't have
Speaker 2: a fake place to give as little Italy, you just
Speaker 2: order like a Hou's Kianti Hou's Kyanti. Well, no, you
Speaker 2: would order like a huge picture of sang It got
Speaker 2: you there, Well, do you.
Speaker 1: Remember the Chinese?
Speaker 2: So there Steph Shoe of everything ever el Yes, Stefh
Speaker 2: Sho would go there in college and get wasted at nineteen.
Speaker 1: And drink red wine. What was that?
Speaker 2: It was worse than tubuc chuck.
Speaker 1: It was something worse than fermented well grape. I had
Speaker 1: my birthday there. It was like a party of twenty
Speaker 1: five underage kids getting so much of this red wine.
Speaker 2: So much.
Speaker 1: But wait.
Speaker 2: In terms of putting together a show though, just quickly
Speaker 2: was it like you and a me being like, what
Speaker 2: do we want to do? We just want to sit
Speaker 2: down because.
Speaker 1: It would be easy to just do that. I mean,
Speaker 1: we do it all the time.
Speaker 3: We did a little test run of like Netflix as
Speaker 3: a joke. It's just mostly a Q and A and
Speaker 3: a couple of little, like really undercooked bits, and it
Speaker 3: was easy and fun. But we sort of thought like, oh,
Speaker 3: we should have a little bit of structure, and so
Speaker 3: we do. I feel like this is a really nice
Speaker 3: little structure.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I should give it away.
Speaker 3: We may keep touring, but like, yeah, we It has
Speaker 3: sort of like four parts. There are wardrobe changes, There
Speaker 3: are one to four wigs depending on the night. There
Speaker 3: is a little bit of Emperor.
Speaker 1: There is a little bit of.
Speaker 3: Stand up.
Speaker 1: And a special guest and a special guest and so.
Speaker 3: But if so, the structure we it felt reminded us
Speaker 3: of Golden Globes times because we always have we have
Speaker 3: such it's over thirty years that we know each other,
Speaker 3: so we do really have a shorthand of like what
Speaker 3: if we go X, Y Z, Like there's no ego
Speaker 3: in it, there's like we And also we've both been
Speaker 3: producing things for a long time. So I do feel proud.
Speaker 3: I feel like we're giving the white women that come
Speaker 3: to see us and other people too.
Speaker 1: It's not a full life and.
Speaker 3: Beautiful all are welcome. I feel like we're giving people
Speaker 3: like what they want but anyway, but also it's like
Speaker 3: hopefully a little bit surprising as it goes along. And
Speaker 3: but the answer was like it basically, I was on set.
Speaker 3: We were finishing filming the Me and Girls movie in Middletown,
Speaker 3: New Jersey, and we had Amy and I had been
Speaker 3: working like once a week over Zoom being like talking
Speaker 3: about what the show could be whatever, and then we
Speaker 3: had from the day I finished, and it was a brutal.
Speaker 3: It was a very tiring, fast shoot. It was like
Speaker 3: a lot of late nights and whatever, and so that
Speaker 3: was say I finished on like the Monday, and then
Speaker 3: like Saturday, we were like our test show was in
Speaker 3: port Chester, so she came in.
Speaker 1: We had like three or four days. It was very
Speaker 1: much like the Golden Globes.
Speaker 3: We were like, Okay, we got this, we got this,
Speaker 3: and we just sort of finished figuring out the show
Speaker 3: and we've honed it some since. But it is sort
Speaker 3: of like you know, when you write stuff and it's
Speaker 3: born quickly and it just comes right out. It's usually
Speaker 3: a good sign and the structure kind of.
Speaker 2: Just slipped right out.
Speaker 1: So when did you realize there was like music to you?
Speaker 1: And Amy like I wonder, like cause you guys have
Speaker 1: always been like friends and I think I don't know
Speaker 1: how true this is, but like you were snl and
Speaker 1: like put her name in their ears and then she
Speaker 1: came Yeah.
Speaker 3: So we started, you know, we were in we started
Speaker 3: together at improv Olympic. Sharna Halpern said to both of us,
Speaker 3: you don't like this girl, and we were the only
Speaker 3: two girls on a team. We go inside Vladimir and
Speaker 3: which is a gay porn that's what it was named,
Speaker 3: a gay porn VHS tape that was on display a
Speaker 3: JJ Peppers on Clark and Way, and I remember we
Speaker 3: also were like we named it after that, and then
Speaker 3: as a team, we're like, we should all watch it
Speaker 3: once as a group, and then we're like, oh, we
Speaker 3: watched it the first time, and then people drifted to
Speaker 3: other parts of the party, except for like one or
Speaker 3: two of the straight guys that just hung in. Yes.
Speaker 3: And so we toured together, and then she and we
Speaker 3: were both under studies for the main stage, and she
Speaker 3: was one hundred percent the A team and I was
Speaker 3: the B team. Like I remember one time Kelly Leonards
Speaker 3: was like, you know, so and So is going dratch,
Speaker 3: Dragh is going on vacation, and Amy can't. She can
Speaker 3: do all of the nights except one. And I was like, so,
Speaker 3: I get it, and he's like, no, you're gonna She's
Speaker 3: gonna do all the nights except one, and you're gonna
Speaker 3: go on one time. And I was like, oh, okay.
Speaker 3: But and then she left to go to UCB show
Speaker 3: in New York, and then and then I did main
Speaker 3: stage literally only because she left, or I would have
Speaker 3: been waiting another two years behind her. I was John
Speaker 3: Glazier's understudy, and he is such like a gender neutral
Speaker 3: in his comedy that I just like, yeah, you can
Speaker 3: just step right in because it's all just like wonderful weirdness.
Speaker 2: I both read for a John Glazier assistant part, and you.
Speaker 1: Love John.
Speaker 3: He and his wife listen to the podcast the best
Speaker 3: I see them A fire answers.
Speaker 1: By the way, I'm actually I didn't even mean to
Speaker 1: do this, but I.
Speaker 3: Fire Island Pines.
Speaker 1: Sorry.
Speaker 2: Sorry.
Speaker 3: So then I ended up trying to get a writing
Speaker 3: job at SNL and Adam McKay hired me and I
Speaker 3: started and then yes, So at some point, I guess
Speaker 3: after the UCB TV show ended, I was like, but
Speaker 3: would you ever but would you ever come over here?
Speaker 1: Would you ever audition?
Speaker 3: And I feel like it was sort of broker that
Speaker 3: she was like basically like I am not doing three
Speaker 3: through the door, Like I'm not like I'm too established
Speaker 3: to you come with my characters in my box of wigs.
Speaker 3: And so it was some kind of in between. It
Speaker 3: was more like a camera test, right. There was something
Speaker 3: where it was like I'm not going to work too hard,
Speaker 3: yeah forever. The Enneagram eight, the challenge.
Speaker 2: What is that one?
Speaker 1: The Challenger yes, what do you do?
Speaker 2: You know? What do you know? You?
Speaker 1: Three? Three? What is three?
Speaker 2: Again?
Speaker 1: The achiever? Oh? Now that I know, I'm going to
Speaker 1: become obsessed with.
Speaker 3: Amy's obsessed with it?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you need to take.
Speaker 3: The test tonight.
Speaker 2: Okay, what's Amy's Amy's?
Speaker 1: And eight? Is it one through eight? It's one through nine?
Speaker 2: Nine.
Speaker 3: I forget what nine is because I don't know a
Speaker 3: lot of nine.
Speaker 1: What's what's it called?
Speaker 2: Like your echo for wing?
Speaker 1: Wing four? Four?
Speaker 2: Wing four? And I forget what four is?
Speaker 1: But this is exciting. Yeah, oh this is going to
Speaker 1: take do you do you ever dabble in astrology?
Speaker 3: I know I'm a tourist. I don't believe so much
Speaker 3: an astrology because it's random.
Speaker 1: But why which is? And again I'm not the anagrams off.
Speaker 3: It's because I've been on tour with Amy for the
Speaker 3: last seventeen weekends that we're talking about a lot. But
Speaker 3: I do put more stock in it because it's based
Speaker 3: on you answer.
Speaker 1: A million questions.
Speaker 3: So it's based on you and that's what you think
Speaker 3: and how you react.
Speaker 1: Correct. That's the way word qualitative. Yeah, So with the
Speaker 1: un Amy thing, like would you consider yourselves opposites? No,
Speaker 1: we're not.
Speaker 3: We're not opposites, yeah.
Speaker 1: Because it presents that in the comedic duel, which I guess. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we've been talking about this a lot, being this, but like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's funny how you present her.
Speaker 3: Son as our opposites, right, because it's more like I'm
Speaker 3: sort of tightly buttoned up and then she's more like
Speaker 3: little dark bag.
Speaker 1: Round but we're both actually pretty bossy.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I just to answer your question, like when
Speaker 3: did I realize that we're sort of more powerful together.
Speaker 3: I remember before, like Jimmy, I was doing an update
Speaker 3: with Jimmy and then he left and I was felt
Speaker 3: very abandoned because I.
Speaker 1: Was like, we left, like he left, we had a
Speaker 1: good thing going.
Speaker 3: And I did tests with other people and stuff, and
Speaker 3: then Lauren was doing that learn thing. He was like,
Speaker 3: what do you think? Like leaving it sort of up
Speaker 3: to me, And there was part of me that was like,
Speaker 3: oh god, I think I'm supposed to want to do
Speaker 3: this by myself, right, like that's the power. But I
Speaker 3: was like, but I'm a sketch person. I'm not a
Speaker 3: startup partner, right And at the very like last minute,
Speaker 3: I remember I was coming back. This is too much information.
Speaker 3: It's coming back from a train trip from Washington, d C.
Speaker 3: Where I had weirdly and presiently taken a photograph for
Speaker 3: like a cover of I don't know what with John McCain,
Speaker 3: like in two thousand and whatever, but way before two
Speaker 3: thousand and eight, and I had to make the decision
Speaker 3: on the Amtrak ride back, and I called Amy and
Speaker 3: I was like, would you do me the great honor
Speaker 3: of being my wife? And then it just worked from
Speaker 3: there and I think by the time the globes and
Speaker 3: the Hillary and Sarah all of it all, it just
Speaker 3: was like, oh, people.
Speaker 1: Do like us together.
Speaker 2: That's the music to it that you're asking.
Speaker 1: Yes. I mean, I just because it feels like again,
Speaker 1: it feels like that thing that always was, but there
Speaker 1: had to be a time when it was decided like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, this feels really good because and I think
Speaker 1: that's like it just feels like the synergistic thing that
Speaker 1: must have always been, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: I mean it kind of asked been for a long
Speaker 3: like six sharp maybe the credit goes to Sharna.
Speaker 2: I mean it sounds like sounds like yeah, but like
Speaker 2: in terms of you guys building up the structure for
Speaker 2: the show for Russell's leg Like that is interesting to
Speaker 2: hear about because I feel like with Globes it was
Speaker 2: you guys looking at the established structure of like what
Speaker 2: an award show looks like and then being like, let's
Speaker 2: go out with mustaches and be like nominees for Dog
Speaker 2: President a movie called Dog like form breaking, Like I
Speaker 2: was like, I remember just watching. I was with my
Speaker 2: friends watching that first year of the Globes just being like,
Speaker 2: oh my god.
Speaker 1: This was also the joke structure they handed to you guys,
Speaker 1: which they don't do anymore, which as a woman who
Speaker 1: dot dot dot dot dot dot dot, like, I love
Speaker 1: that and I wish they would do that because sometimes
Speaker 1: they would just like describe it in such a weird
Speaker 1: way and they're on the actor like.
Speaker 2: And she's like not a total idiot.
Speaker 3: A total idiot who looks terrible.
Speaker 1: Who looks terrible even now? Yeah, Matt Rogers dog President.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean the things I think we knew from
Speaker 3: like I felt that we brought producer brain to the
Speaker 3: table were like front loaded, yes, don't come out. And
Speaker 3: I've watched other Ward shows since where I've been like
Speaker 3: oh no, no, no, my darling at the end of
Speaker 3: like the oscars don't come out at like ten fifty
Speaker 3: with a long ass bit. Everyone's tired. Everyone who's still
Speaker 3: in the room has lost Get out of there, you know,
Speaker 3: so like front loaded, don't go too long work the room.
Speaker 3: And also literally just like say who you are and
Speaker 3: remind people who how they know you, Like just I
Speaker 3: feel like we had just training from SNL just like
Speaker 3: watching a million monologues.
Speaker 2: That's a larn thing of like, okay, like most times
Speaker 2: were gonna be like cold up in monologue like before update,
Speaker 2: Like that's like above the fold in terms of it's
Speaker 2: like it's common sense to us, but it's also like
Speaker 2: things that I guess like people don't think of all
Speaker 2: the time. And that's that's okay, But it's also like
Speaker 2: I feel like the biggest boon of working near is
Speaker 2: to like see a different version of let's just say
Speaker 2: like fame every week and then to be like, oh,
Speaker 2: I can behaviorally adjust myself based on what I'm witnessing,
Speaker 2: you know, which.
Speaker 3: Of these paths seems like a good path?
Speaker 1: And yeah, that sounds weird to say so speaking of
Speaker 1: like the famous of it all, I wonder like you've
Speaker 1: probably met everyone at this point, but then you're in
Speaker 1: the Golden Golds room and it's literally like, is there
Speaker 1: anyone who throws you off?
Speaker 3: That is a great question, I have to say, after
Speaker 3: so much time at SNL and also just being fifty three,
Speaker 3: where you're just like, I don't care. Yeah right, and
Speaker 3: you've seen like you've seen so many waves of culture
Speaker 3: and you're like, yeah, guess who used to be a
Speaker 3: big deal and isn't anymore? Like whoever you are, it
Speaker 3: will pass, right, And also having had to go make
Speaker 3: crazy phone calls and have crazy meetings and be like
Speaker 3: like I've had to do things like can you call
Speaker 3: Mariah Carey and ask her for the rights to you
Speaker 3: know this song? And I like and once you've done, like,
Speaker 3: I don't don't know if I can think of a
Speaker 3: person that that I'd be like, you're such a big deal.
Speaker 1: Because even Oprah has been your colleague. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: I'm one of the most iconic.
Speaker 2: So there you go.
Speaker 1: Mariah is huge because you got her with girls and
Speaker 1: you have her for she loves me girls, she loves
Speaker 1: mingols the whole song about it, one of her best songs. Yeah,
Speaker 1: to are so obsessed with me? Do you like the
Speaker 1: new Do you like the new? The Renee and Megan song?
Speaker 1: Do you like it all the time?
Speaker 2: You like it?
Speaker 3: Renee is a real one, a real star, a real star,
Speaker 3: real star.
Speaker 1: She came on this podcast then it's like her voice
Speaker 1: in that movie do you know this? With there Me, Joe,
Speaker 1: Kim Booster, Brandon Scott, Joe Crush, we were there and
Speaker 1: then Renee came out, and then Laura Bananti was hosting
Speaker 1: the whole thing and being like and just on stage
Speaker 1: orbone anything like if I had the confidence of that girl,
Speaker 1: I would have no problems. And it was just you
Speaker 1: could tell from that night, Yeah, Star, it was just
Speaker 1: And the kid that won was Andrew bart Felt the
Speaker 1: Jennifer Lawrence movie No Hard Feelings.
Speaker 3: Yes, and Evon Hansen right for the gym, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: the Jimmy's with the Future. Other thing that I loved
Speaker 3: about Renee on SNL was her live vocal was right
Speaker 3: up front in that mix, right up front, right in
Speaker 3: the zone.
Speaker 1: You could hear it was live.
Speaker 2: Vibes. And then and then the after party was like
Speaker 2: I don't do like big spaces.
Speaker 3: That was like you're so cool, great Americans.
Speaker 2: I think it's time to move on.
Speaker 1: Shall we move to I don't think so honey. Okay,
Speaker 1: So this is the segment, Tina where we take one
Speaker 1: minute to rant and rave again something in culture and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get a little specific, and I apologize to
Speaker 1: you in advance. Oh no, but I think you need
Speaker 1: to make some changes. Oh god, I know, but don't
Speaker 1: be scared. Okay, Okay, this is Pott Rodgers. I don't
Speaker 1: think so honey about me. I guess as time starts,
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey, bow and Yang. No deodorant
Speaker 1: in your dressing room, Oh get out, because I think
Speaker 1: it's like a it's a staple.
Speaker 2: Right, I don't need it and I don't need a babe.
Speaker 1: My thing is like I needed it. And you remember
Speaker 1: that you have guessed and some of them are going
Speaker 1: to be in that hot, little stuffy dressing dressing room stuffy.
Speaker 1: And I'm turning around and as I said before, no,
Speaker 1: not a deal toate in sight in my apartment, only acts,
Speaker 1: which I didn't find till this morning. I feel like, Bowen,
Speaker 1: we need to rethink and restock your dress room with
Speaker 1: the essentiary. Second, because there's a lot of you fancy
Speaker 1: good whiskey and no dealorance, no nothing that's going to
Speaker 1: actually get us to the end of the day, the
Speaker 1: end of the week. Oh, because it was smelling in there.
Speaker 1: And I apologize to you, but you had a lot
Speaker 1: of men in your in your dressing room last night
Speaker 1: and it's stank by the end of it. And I'm
Speaker 1: telling you, like, I just couldn't believe you didn't have
Speaker 1: your little essentials. You do have a lot of good cologne.
Speaker 1: I do than acts, okay, But I'm just saying, like,
Speaker 1: in terms of the sweat and the anti person, weren't
Speaker 1: you could be doing better?
Speaker 2: I don't think so. That's one minute I had MS
Speaker 2: available for our friend day because he had an upset stomach. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I have so many other This is the thing about
Speaker 2: working at SNL that I I'm never gonna get over.
Speaker 2: You could have had the worst week professionally, not the
Speaker 2: worst week, but just a rough week professor at the show,
Speaker 2: and then you still have to host your friends and
Speaker 2: make sure they are ice and get drinks for them.
Speaker 2: I'm like, this is the thing that I don't love.
Speaker 3: Like your aunt and uncle are coming to take them
Speaker 3: to the party.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're like, oh, that's a light show for me, and.
Speaker 1: I will say I did check myself when like I
Speaker 1: think it was a couple of years ago, like a
Speaker 1: few of us were in your dressing room, just like
Speaker 1: having the time, and I think it was like a
Speaker 1: week were you having a hard time? You came and
Speaker 1: we were just like, ah, what do you mean, just
Speaker 1: because like you don't want to be like whoa like,
Speaker 1: come on, get them up on our level when it's
Speaker 1: like I am at work still, And then I do
Speaker 1: respect that.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry they didn't have deodorant.
Speaker 3: I'll get I just felt that because I reathed, you
Speaker 3: needed to have a little basket like in a wedding
Speaker 3: reception ladies room, like mints.
Speaker 1: I have brothers past deals, get mints, and he does
Speaker 1: have brothers past deals. Does everyone know where you go
Speaker 1: and tampons?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Cythiio gave me past.
Speaker 1: Cynthia Rivo gave him the best singer in the world.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's great. Also Big Big Brothers Past Big had
Speaker 2: all the great. Well, I'm sorry, I will do my
Speaker 2: best too.
Speaker 1: No, I'm kidding. I just didn't want to smell so bad,
Speaker 1: That's okay. And also I'm being a little like erring
Speaker 1: on the side of caution. I don't think so funny
Speaker 1: because I got absolutely dragged for the one I did
Speaker 1: last week, which was people should not be riding tailor
Speaker 1: swift so hard for the private jet usage because you
Speaker 1: don't want her to ride commercials.
Speaker 3: I saw that, and you're like, what is she gonna fly.
Speaker 1: Adult an adulta lounge? Yeah, because I'm just teasing everyone,
Speaker 1: and the girls absolutely dragged me because I'm harmful.
Speaker 3: No no, no no, I'm You're the real problem.
Speaker 1: The real problem, apologized. I've got one. Okay, bowing, I
Speaker 1: might be biting the hand. Oh baby, we'll see this
Speaker 1: is Bowe yangs. I don't think so money as time
Speaker 1: starts now, I.
Speaker 2: Don't think so honey. My co host doing ads for
Speaker 2: The Tiger's Apprentice now streaming on Paramount Plus and naming
Speaker 2: off the cast list Henry Golding, Greta Lee, Sandra Oh,
Speaker 2: Michelle Yo, but no mention of Bow and Yang. I
Speaker 2: normally don't mind, but I it's my own podcast. I'm
Speaker 2: giving Paramount a platform. I saw Mean Girls in theaters
Speaker 2: four times. I went to go see Mean Girls in
Speaker 2: the musical twenty twenty four. I am a supporter of
Speaker 2: Paramount of CBS and vi Com. I've had many wonderful
Speaker 2: experiences to work with Viacom CBS, and I can't even
Speaker 2: get a damn mention in the ads and the promo
Speaker 2: material for this movie that I had a great time doing.
Speaker 2: I play Sydney the Raft, the movie where the twelve
Speaker 2: animals of the Chinese Zodiac team up to fight an evil.
Speaker 2: In go Oh, Michelle, you places the villain second coworker
Speaker 2: with our guest. I put Paramount, please put me in
Speaker 2: the damn.
Speaker 1: Credit And that's a minute. I personally like to apologize
Speaker 1: for not improvising in the ad that you were but
Speaker 1: I don't think but dead ass, you do not know
Speaker 1: that I was in that movie. No, dead ass, I
Speaker 1: do know that you're in the movie. But you know
Speaker 1: what it's like to do ads. And this sort of
Speaker 1: a peak behind the curtain usually happens at the end
Speaker 1: of a podcast when you just want to leave until
Speaker 1: you're like coming so to Paramount plus it's gonna be
Speaker 1: everyone but bo and all right, see you later, everybody.
Speaker 1: I I don't want to say when I love I
Speaker 1: didn't go to the math for you. When I love
Speaker 1: that for you came out and we were doing ask
Speaker 1: for I love that for you. I made sure to
Speaker 1: really make your name an emphatic part of that. I
Speaker 1: just expected better from you. I expected better from you.
Speaker 1: Is really hard said that to you. If your best
Speaker 1: friend and coming to partner said I expected better from
Speaker 1: you on the air, that's rough. That's rough. No, I
Speaker 1: expect better for myself. I'm sorry. And from now on
Speaker 1: I will always say your name. I'll sneak your name
Speaker 1: into projects and you're not even in thank you. And
Speaker 1: then maybe just like and you have Deoduran for me,
Speaker 1: let's have each other's backs more in the future. Because
Speaker 1: there's a magic here and there's a music here. I've
Speaker 1: always known it.
Speaker 2: That's an equilalic exchange.
Speaker 1: You're the teen and amy of your generation. You know
Speaker 1: what what don't?
Speaker 2: Don't?
Speaker 1: Should we host the globes?
Speaker 3: Are getting by the way, you should host the Globes together.
Speaker 2: That room is going to be like, who the fuck
Speaker 2: are those who? Joe Koy who They're like?
Speaker 1: Who is that?
Speaker 3: It would be like, it's Joe Kimbooster because that keeps
Speaker 3: happening to you guys.
Speaker 1: And they'll be like and Zachary Quinto.
Speaker 3: No, but you really should do it because together are
Speaker 3: so much more fun.
Speaker 2: I would only do it with someone with you.
Speaker 1: I'm throwing our name in there. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're gonna do it, and Bomo was like, no, not
Speaker 1: the globes. And I was like, well, I think they're back.
Speaker 1: I think now we know they're back. You know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Yeah, they're back. Yeah, Okay, are you ready
Speaker 1: for this?
Speaker 3: I think so? Okay, So I will say I was like,
Speaker 3: I was kind of sweating because I you know, again,
Speaker 3: in fifty three, I have nothing but opinions, right, have
Speaker 3: violent opinions about everything. But I'm also constantly afraid of
Speaker 3: getting in trouble. So do an audition some No, I
Speaker 3: think I'm an okay area now, but also like, I
Speaker 3: do have backups if we do it, and you could
Speaker 3: you be like no, do a different one if.
Speaker 1: We're like no, you'll get crucified for that.
Speaker 3: I think I was thinking about my own fear of crucifixion,
Speaker 3: and it led me to my choice of topic. Okay, so,
Speaker 3: and I may look at my phone the old.
Speaker 2: This is Tina Feyce. I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 3: How it starts to know, I don't think so, honey,
Speaker 3: bo and Yang giving his real opinions about movies on
Speaker 3: this podcast. I regret to inform you that you are
Speaker 3: too famous. Now, sir, what's gonna happen? You have a
Speaker 3: problem with saltburn, quiet luxury, Keep it to yourself, because
Speaker 3: what are you going to do when Emerald Fennel calls
Speaker 3: you about her next project where you play Carrie Mulligan's
Speaker 3: co worker in the bridal section of Herod's and then
Speaker 3: Act three makes a sexually violent turn and you have
Speaker 3: to pretend to be surprised by that term. You have
Speaker 3: to have a clean paper tray on nothing negative. Everything
Speaker 3: everyone does is amazing. You hang out with Ariana and SpongeBob.
Speaker 3: Now that is your life, okay, and Matt Rogers. I
Speaker 3: gonna tell you, got about one year left, and then you, yes,
Speaker 3: learn from my mistakes, learn from io podcasts forever.
Speaker 1: Authenticity is dangerous and expensive.
Speaker 3: I don't think so, honey, that is so old timer.
Speaker 1: And you know they're starting to come for us, the
Speaker 1: people that listen to this, and like they don't say
Speaker 1: their real opinions, and it's like, yeah, I don't think
Speaker 1: that anyone needs that. Sometimes it gets hard, it gets harder,
Speaker 1: I know, I bet it does.
Speaker 2: And they're also digging through our stuff being like, well,
Speaker 2: there's a period when they didn't like Taylor Swift.
Speaker 1: Aid where they didn't like them, So to hear them
Speaker 1: be so sick a fantic now was really crazy. They
Speaker 1: call us boot liquors. I'm like, you, guys, it's a
Speaker 1: walk doing.
Speaker 3: This and it's a dangerous dance. Yes, and it's impossible.
Speaker 1: It's really crazy because the fact is we do have
Speaker 1: strong opinions about almost everything, and that's what people want.
Speaker 1: White's authentic. But also, what do I do when Emerald calls.
Speaker 3: What are you going to do when?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: But I personally and I cannot expect this of everyone.
Speaker 2: If someone's not a fan of one thing that I've done,
Speaker 2: if someone was like I didn't love Fire Island, I'll
Speaker 2: be like, no problem, I'll still be in a sketch
Speaker 2: with you. I'll still like, take a meet.
Speaker 1: Emerald Fel if I'll still take a meeting. Emerald Fanel
Speaker 1: had gotten on a podcast and absolutely destroyed Fire Island
Speaker 1: and said this is bad. I didn't get the performances,
Speaker 1: and Emerald Fanel said the words, I don't think Bowen
Speaker 1: Yang has ever pulled it off. You would feel crazy.
Speaker 2: I would feel crazy, but he'd be like, that's so.
Speaker 1: I was like, she's entitled Emerald. That was I forgotten.
Speaker 3: My one note that I didn't get to as I
Speaker 3: was at the bottom, was going to be I don't listen.
Speaker 3: I don't expect you to stand with Dave Chappelle good night.
Speaker 1: I'm not a monster.
Speaker 3: I'm not crazy, but I do need you to hug
Speaker 3: Mark Cuban like he is your long honest like Jimmy did.
Speaker 3: And also why did Jimmy do that? Why was Jimmy
Speaker 3: hugging Mark Cuban like they won the super Bowl together.
Speaker 2: Jimmy was so happy and Jimmy was so nice and
Speaker 2: he sent me milk Bark cookies.
Speaker 1: Well that's why Jimmy's the best, because he's capable of joy.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, no, and we need that. And I
Speaker 2: was by the way people are like reading me for
Speaker 2: like in the Bear Gip talk show sketch, like looking
Speaker 2: agitated in a word.
Speaker 3: I was like, no, I was like playing this.
Speaker 2: I was playing in this sketch and being like, oh,
Speaker 2: there's the guests are supposed to be like a little perplexed.
Speaker 2: I was like, you, guys, but that was fantastic.
Speaker 1: Honestly, this is a genuine question, how would you do
Speaker 1: this podcast? You know what I mean? Like, how like
Speaker 1: if you're us, how would you continue to do this
Speaker 1: podcast which started in twenty sixteen when we thought there's
Speaker 1: no way anyone will ever listen to it even once. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and we sort of established this thing of like, we
Speaker 1: see things, we talk about it, we're honest, we have
Speaker 1: our little fun with things in the pop culture. And
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden that does become hard because
Speaker 1: someone who might be a dear sister to you, right
Speaker 1: might be right?
Speaker 3: I mean, I do think you before you guys are
Speaker 3: thoughtful and gentle, and if you say you don't like something,
Speaker 3: it's not just like just to be jerks.
Speaker 1: You know you don't.
Speaker 3: Obviously we're very thoughtful about those movies. But it does
Speaker 3: become a thing where it's like, oh, do you want
Speaker 3: to be people who keep it real and have their
Speaker 3: podcast forever? Or do you want to be goddamn movie stars?
Speaker 1: Are you not? Then?
Speaker 3: Go?
Speaker 1: Then then you're.
Speaker 3: Like my, like my, my trail of mistakes lives behind me,
Speaker 3: like then Jacob Marley's train, like just chains of shame,
Speaker 3: like from like oh, I'll.
Speaker 1: Just use this real name from my high school, you like.
Speaker 3: And then hit this person like that wasn't even it,
Speaker 3: just like I liked their name, like it's nothing to
Speaker 3: do with them, yes, And then I'm like, that's the
Speaker 3: level of share.
Speaker 1: They're now going impatient because of what you've done.
Speaker 3: I mean, and then like just and then like update
Speaker 3: jokes that you're like, I'll do it. I don't care,
Speaker 3: and then you're like oh right, and then yeah, like
Speaker 3: so many kinds of of these mistakes that you're like,
Speaker 3: what did I.
Speaker 1: Especially the thing with the io thing. It's like, so
Speaker 1: someone like j Lo is so famous and has been
Speaker 1: so famous for such a long time that literally everyone
Speaker 1: in the world has said something probably incredibly positive and
Speaker 1: negative about her, just because that's like a colloquialism almost,
Speaker 1: and so for her to get dragged so much for this,
Speaker 1: not only do I think it's like uncool, but I'm like, guys,
Speaker 1: this is not this is not a Pandora's box. We
Speaker 1: want to open up. Let's dig up everything everyone said
Speaker 1: on the name and it will be an apocalypse.
Speaker 3: Sketch was like why why did you say it?
Speaker 1: That was funny too, that was great they threw that
Speaker 1: line in after Friday, after that news broke. It was just.
Speaker 2: Fortuitous or the opposite in terms of like it's Io
Speaker 2: and Jlo being on the same bill for us and all,
Speaker 2: like that's the only reason.
Speaker 1: To go, yeah, that's the but it's like even that
Speaker 1: is just like, guys, it's just I don't think anyone's
Speaker 1: gonna stand by every single thing they've ever said, and
Speaker 1: it is tough, and then when a lot of people
Speaker 1: do start listening, there is a weird rub and so like,
Speaker 1: honestly that I don't think so Honey comes out a
Speaker 1: really interesting time because a lot Yeah, I catch it
Speaker 1: all the time, and like I honestly also so sometimes
Speaker 1: I only ever think, don't take my opinion seriously. I'm
Speaker 1: like a dummy with a podcast, Like I'm just trying
Speaker 1: to have fun with this, but people do take it
Speaker 1: very seriously and that's not up to me. And also like, however,
Speaker 1: and I've never heard from I've literally never heard from
Speaker 1: like an artist or anyone that's done anything out there
Speaker 1: and said what you said on your podcast really hurt me.
Speaker 1: But like I don't know, if I were to hear that,
Speaker 1: I would definitely certainly feel bad, Like I don't want
Speaker 1: anyone to feel anything but good after having listened to it,
Speaker 1: but it is a thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a good impartments.
Speaker 1: It's been so long since we've been imparted on Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: to be imparted in this way, we needed it. Well,
Speaker 1: this was just a joy and a half. I would
Speaker 1: a delight to talk to you. Enjoy the podcast so much.
Speaker 1: Thank you for even saying that. And I just mean,
Speaker 1: like truly, like this was wish fulfillment for us, to
Speaker 1: say the least, to even have you here and even
Speaker 1: know who the hell you are. So this is pleasure.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, we love you. We love you a lot.
Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, get tickets to the show?
Speaker 1: Is it all sold out?
Speaker 3: As the Beacon might be sold out, We have some.
Speaker 3: We still have a show coming in like Seattle. Thank
Speaker 3: you for knowing that in Portland there might still be
Speaker 3: tickets because we have to go back to the city
Speaker 3: froze and we had to cancel the show.
Speaker 1: Everyone who was.
Speaker 3: Mad on Twitter if you couldn't get to the show
Speaker 3: that still happened, you can, I think you can get tickets,
Speaker 3: Like we're not. We're doing the right thing.
Speaker 1: So everyone.
Speaker 3: Calm down, you.
Speaker 1: Can calm down. We're doing the right thing. Calm down,
Speaker 1: we're doing the right thing.
Speaker 2: That's just generally applicable.
Speaker 3: And then let me see what I should I be
Speaker 3: a professional about. Oh yeah, Girls five Eva Meredith Gardino
Speaker 3: is amazing show.
Speaker 1: Oh it's so good.
Speaker 3: All three seasons come to Netflix so you can see
Speaker 3: and yeah, you can see so.
Speaker 1: Many wonderful people.
Speaker 3: I believe. March fourteenth. I hope I'm right about that.
Speaker 1: March fourteenth. One of our dearest friends, Matt Whitaker. I
Speaker 1: love yeah with him. Sometimes he's a big We saw
Speaker 1: Appropriate the other night on Aways Together. He's a great
Speaker 1: theater going for he is great. Yes, he sees everything,
Speaker 1: he sees it all. And then Mean Girls twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1: My mom and aunt saw it the other night and
Speaker 1: their review was this, we loved it. You know it
Speaker 1: was different because it was a musical. Yeah, that was Yeah.
Speaker 3: That was one of the ones that I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: I can't do this, and I'll get I want to
Speaker 3: be like, I don't think so, honey, Little Broadway counts
Speaker 3: complaining about two lines of Revenge Party. When I bring
Speaker 3: you fucking Renee rap, I bring you Jaquelle Spyby. This
Speaker 3: is why we can't have a Antica.
Speaker 1: She she showed up to they as I was like
Speaker 1: she did.
Speaker 2: I was like, that's fucking that's her.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: When the real the original movie came out, she wasn't.
Speaker 1: No, this is see and I wonder if that's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: Is like, now we're gonna start watching it and it's
Speaker 1: gonna look like in terms of fashion, like really dated,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna be like, oh my god, no, it's
Speaker 1: becoming the clueless of it all where you watch Clueless
Speaker 1: now and you're like, oh, can you imagine why wearing that?
Speaker 1: It's gonna be like that.
Speaker 2: So no, no, but for me, like the fashions of
Speaker 2: those movies are like President Yamber, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It's you said all back now if you if you
Speaker 1: walk out the room looking like Sharon Diane, you'll get
Speaker 1: the coolest bitch at the part.
Speaker 2: It's not even the loop back around. It's just like
Speaker 2: that just kind of looks cool in the world of
Speaker 2: the movie. Anyway. Okay, we end every episode with the
Speaker 2: song It's with Me.
Speaker 1: I know, who wouldn't want to fall in love with me?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Okay, well you should be off books. Be off book readers.
Speaker 1: Bye bye, last Cultureati.
Speaker 2: This is the production by Will Ferrell's Big Money Players
Speaker 2: and I Heart Radio podcasts.
Speaker 1: Created and hosted by Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang. Executive
Speaker 1: produced by Ana Hasnier and Hans Soni.
Speaker 2: Produced by Becka Ramos, edited mixed by Doug Baby Monika
Speaker 2: Board and our.
Speaker 1: Music is by Henry Kamerski. Hey everybody, it's me Matt Rodgers,
Speaker 1: letting you know.
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