Speaker 1: The big news this week in the league. We got
Speaker 1: some tea. Now, we got some things happening.
Speaker 2: We got some butts that are hot, and the butts
Speaker 2: that are hot finally, now get the boot. Nate McMillan
Speaker 2: fired in Atlanta. So I have a history with Nate.
Speaker 2: He coached the Blazers for a really long time. I
Speaker 2: had to watch those ugly offenses for I don't even
Speaker 2: know how many years.
Speaker 1: It was too many.
Speaker 2: They walked the ball up the court like you had
Speaker 2: to walk it to half court. That was his mandate,
Speaker 2: and that was just what they did. Had one of
Speaker 2: the slowest paces in the NBA. But what happened to Atlanta,
Speaker 2: Let's talk about that, because that's what's important, and it's not,
Speaker 2: in my opinion, Nate's fault. In fact, I think he
Speaker 2: has adapted much better than new NBA that I thought.
Speaker 1: He would ever would. Yeah, is you got stuck with
Speaker 1: Trey Young. That's what it is. He got stuck in Atlanta.
Speaker 2: He had a really incredible run based around some luck
Speaker 2: and some help and some skill, and they went to
Speaker 2: the Eastern Conference finals, which they never were ever going
Speaker 2: to do again.
Speaker 1: And then they hired him.
Speaker 2: They hired an interim head coach that maybe was gonna
Speaker 2: work with Trey Young.
Speaker 1: Maybe not.
Speaker 2: And we talked about this before Atlanta fired one of
Speaker 2: the most respected NBA executives in the league in Travis Slank,
Speaker 2: and they brought in the owner's twenty year old son.
Speaker 2: That's a little, as my mom would say, a little
Speaker 2: nepatis at work. And so what you thought, what you
Speaker 2: thought they weren't gonna fire Nate McMillan. Come on, now,
Speaker 2: this firing is no shock. But what I did think
Speaker 2: was surprising is that they have been trying to push
Speaker 2: Nate McMillan out the door, encouraging him.
Speaker 1: To resign on his own for weeks now.
Speaker 2: And Nate was like, nah, dog, you're gonna have to
Speaker 2: You're gonna have to put me into the guillotine and
Speaker 2: show the world that you asked me yourself. I am
Speaker 2: not about to do you the pleasure where it's like
Speaker 2: a mutual parting of ways. I am exposing the dysfunction
Speaker 2: in this franchise. Go ahead, fire me after you just
Speaker 2: fired Lloyd Pierce two years ago.
Speaker 1: Do it again.
Speaker 2: Show the rest of the world what's going on. Show
Speaker 2: the quinn Snyders of the world, what kind of organization
Speaker 2: you are, And you kind of get a sense of
Speaker 2: what happened from John Collins because John Collins said, uh, yeah,
Speaker 2: Nate would have been a good coach, a great coach
Speaker 2: for a quote more mature team. And so people want
Speaker 2: to read that as older, and I don't. I don't
Speaker 2: think that means older. I think that means more mature.
Speaker 2: You know, like how there's old souls and young souls,
Speaker 2: Like I believe Trey Young.
Speaker 1: Is a young soul.
Speaker 2: I think he's gonna be thirty five doing this bullshit.
Speaker 2: I think we can pretty definitively say now the Trey
Speaker 2: Young he is a coach killer. He could be considered
Speaker 2: a certified coach killer. He has a shift in his
Speaker 2: back pocket at all times. And you know what, he's
Speaker 2: killed more coaches at this stage is in the NBA
Speaker 2: than Hall of Fame coach killers have so far. He
Speaker 2: is now working on his third head coach interim and
Speaker 2: then a new one. And he's going to be a
Speaker 2: coach killer from now and to the end of his
Speaker 2: career unless unless something drastic happens.
Speaker 1: I don't know. So look at his track record.
Speaker 2: He's now had two coaches fired in three years, both
Speaker 2: that he had personal conflict with Right his team has
Speaker 2: gotten progressively worse since the surprise run to the Eastern
Speaker 2: Conference Finals. He had beef with Nate this year, and
Speaker 2: everybody knew that. Anonymous sources within the Hawks claim that
Speaker 2: the majority of players actually sided with Nate in their
Speaker 2: season long dispute.
Speaker 1: And so you usually.
Speaker 2: Don't see players side with management over a teammate.
Speaker 1: So what does that mean?
Speaker 2: That means that uh, Trey Young is unpopular with coaches
Speaker 2: and unpopular with teammates.
Speaker 1: Not a great combo.
Speaker 2: So the question is who is the new regime that
Speaker 2: twenty seven year old nick wrestler and his best friend
Speaker 2: Landry Fields are tasked with trying to keep this shit
Speaker 2: from sinking? And who are these people? Let's look at
Speaker 2: the crop of candidates. We've got some that we need
Speaker 2: to discuss.
Speaker 1: Quinn Snyder.
Speaker 2: Quinn Snyder there are working on having discussions as we speak.
Speaker 2: And Quinn Snyder, as you know, former coach of the
Speaker 2: Utah Jazz. And so at first glance, this might seem.
Speaker 1: Like a perfect fit.
Speaker 2: Trey Young is his new donovan, Mitchell Cappella and John
Speaker 2: Collins can play like Rudy Gobert except for less lobbs
Speaker 2: in Utah, obviously because Donovan Mitchell wasn't giving any to
Speaker 2: Rudy Gobert. But where Mike Conley was. That team was
Speaker 2: first in the West. That team had a historically good offense.
Speaker 2: I think they were the number one overall offense in
Speaker 2: the league. They had shooters surrounding their guards.
Speaker 1: But let's be clear, number one, that Utah team was
Speaker 1: not a success.
Speaker 2: That team style does not benefit in the modern NBA.
Speaker 2: This is a wing driven league, not a guard driven
Speaker 2: league anymore. And this is not going to work in
Speaker 2: one of the most dysfunctional places in the NBA, which
Speaker 2: is Atlanta. I do not think that Quinn Snyder will
Speaker 2: want to build a team around Trey Young and his bullshit.
Speaker 2: And I do not think he will build a team
Speaker 2: that cohesively works with Trey Young.
Speaker 1: Not because he's a bad coach.
Speaker 2: He's a good coach, Not because he can't make the
Speaker 2: roster work and the skill sets on the team work.
Speaker 2: But this guy, Quinn Snyder rumored And you may say, oh,
Speaker 2: this is not important, this is not an important fact.
Speaker 1: I think it is.
Speaker 2: Quinn Snyder is rumored to be the type of coach
Speaker 2: that has seating charts on his bus, has a very
Speaker 2: strict style of leadership, close to what Lloyd Pierce and
Speaker 2: Nate McMillan had. Do you believe that Trey Young will
Speaker 2: like someone who has seating charts on the bus?
Speaker 1: I do not think he will respond well to that.
Speaker 2: This has rebuild written all over it, and if Quinn
Speaker 2: Snyder is smart, he will stay all the way away.
Speaker 2: Moving on to Charles Lee. Charles Lee, well respected Buck's assistant.
Speaker 2: He's gonna get a job soon.
Speaker 1: This could be it, This might be it. It's known
Speaker 1: as a player's coach.
Speaker 2: He's worked really well with superstars, which is very important
Speaker 2: on this Atlanta Hawks team. He's an ego manager Giannis Drew,
Speaker 2: Chris Middleton, so he knows how to do that. And
Speaker 2: let's be real, like, this is probably the best fit
Speaker 2: for a very thankless job.
Speaker 1: Is going to be fired in two years at best.
Speaker 2: He's going to be on the payroll at the same
Speaker 2: time as Nate and Lloyd are and probably whoever follows
Speaker 2: him as a successor.
Speaker 1: So so why not, Charles Lee? Why not gotta start somewhere.
Speaker 2: Next up is Jordi Fernandez, Jordy Fernandez shows you how
Speaker 2: far the Kings have come. Assistant for the Sacramento Kings.
Speaker 1: Finally get in some love.
Speaker 2: I don't think I've seen a team try to poach
Speaker 2: and assist it off the Kings in my lifetime. So
Speaker 2: that just shows you how good nobody's like, Hey, how
Speaker 2: do I get a little of that juice that the
Speaker 2: Sacramento Kings have? How do I steal a little piece.
Speaker 1: Of what the Kings are doing? Now? That is the case.
Speaker 2: That is just another sign the Kings are on the rise.
Speaker 2: Other franchises trying to take a little bit of your
Speaker 2: pixie dust and try to reconfigure.
Speaker 1: That magic on their team. He is a really great coach.
Speaker 2: All that you need to know about him is that
Speaker 2: when he filled in for Mike Brown, the entire team
Speaker 2: rallied around him.
Speaker 1: They celebrated him like it was Game seven of the Finals.
Speaker 2: They had champagne, they had goggles, they were spraying them
Speaker 2: like it was the gatorade.
Speaker 1: I mean, the whole thing screams respect.
Speaker 2: Speaking of respect, Next up on this list of candidates
Speaker 2: is Kenny Atkinson. We know him from his brief time
Speaker 2: as the nets head coach before Kevin Durant and Kyrie
Speaker 2: Irving killed him. Currently a Warriors assistant, he took the
Speaker 2: job for the Charlotte Hornets for like, I think eleven minutes,
Speaker 2: maybe twelve. He woke up out of a panic and said, oh, no, baby,
Speaker 2: I can't take this shop.
Speaker 1: Oh no, oh no, no, no, I got to go.
Speaker 2: I'm going back to the bay. My mom, my family,
Speaker 2: whoever he said was there. Oh, it's a business family decision,
Speaker 2: and we love Santa Cruz.
Speaker 1: Whatever.
Speaker 2: He is too smart to hitch his wagon to being
Speaker 2: on the verge of a glue factory. Kenny Atkinson knows
Speaker 2: what it's like to be on a team where you
Speaker 2: could be cut and discarded.
Speaker 1: At any given time. Do you think he wants to
Speaker 1: do that?
Speaker 2: No. I would be shocked if Kenny Atkinson even agrees
Speaker 2: to interview.
Speaker 1: For this dick ass job.
Speaker 2: This situation could be worse than the Hornet's job. At
Speaker 2: least the Hornets job, you know, is a rebuild. They
Speaker 2: think they're better than a rebuild. That's the crazy thing.
Speaker 1: I think there are a lot of other jobs that
Speaker 1: Kenny Atkinson would be suited for.
Speaker 2: Mitch Johnson, Miles Simon, just a couple of randoms that
Speaker 2: you gotta throw in there. Johnson is one of Papovitch's
Speaker 2: assistants to San Antonio, and I think it's like mandated
Speaker 2: anytime you have a new opening, you just have to
Speaker 2: interview a San Antonio Spurs assistant because.
Speaker 1: I don't know why, that's just how it goes.
Speaker 2: And then Miles Simons, who coaches the South Bay Lakers
Speaker 2: of the G League. I'm not even sure why his
Speaker 2: name is bringing up like the regular Lakers, I don't
Speaker 2: even think you would want to interview for the job
Speaker 2: in terms of those coaches, so I don't thin he
Speaker 2: has any shot.
Speaker 1: And then we've got a dark horse people.
Speaker 2: E may Youdoka, Come on down, Come on down, e
Speaker 2: may Udoka, dark horse. I would love nothing more than
Speaker 2: emy Udoka to get this job. There's not even any
Speaker 2: joke in that. I think he would be the best
Speaker 2: person for this job. I think he is the only
Speaker 2: coach who could fix this team defensively.
Speaker 1: I think it would be phenomenal. He would destroy Trey
Speaker 1: Young in the media.
Speaker 2: He would tell you everything that was going on, Like
Speaker 2: can you imagine when Trey Young didn't show up to the.
Speaker 1: Game, what e may Udoka, what is said about him?
Speaker 2: To the media and Trey Young'd be like, Oh, it's
Speaker 2: my personal business. I keep my private business to myself. No, no, baby.
Speaker 2: Now with e may Udoka, he knows what it's like
Speaker 2: to have his business down the street and this is
Speaker 2: all about the game right now. He would see the
Speaker 2: two practices of Trey Young not playing defense, doing his
Speaker 2: bullshit and not getting John Collins involved, just icing out teammates,
Speaker 2: and you know what, he would say it, Trey Young
Speaker 2: needs to pass the ball more, he needs to play
Speaker 2: some defense. His demeanor is perfect for a young team.
Speaker 2: He won't get the job because politics, I guess, but
Speaker 2: it would be highly entertaining if he did. And also
Speaker 2: from the Hawk's perspective, And maybe they're not even thinking
Speaker 2: about this because I don't think they're particularly smart.
Speaker 1: What do I know? Do we really trust you? May
Speaker 1: You don't.
Speaker 2: Could just be in a city like Atlanta all the time,
Speaker 2: where there's like more strip clubs prey capital than anywhere else.
Speaker 1: It's like it's popping in Atlanta.
Speaker 2: The opportunities for mischief are high. The big question, though,
Speaker 2: is who does Trey Young prefer. I guess that's the
Speaker 2: only question worth asking at this point because Atlanta seems
Speaker 2: committed to keep Trey Young happy for God knows why, reasons.
Speaker 1: You will never guest, though, who Trey Young wants. Just guess,
Speaker 1: just guess.
Speaker 2: It's really funny if you had to guess the most
Speaker 2: funny place, the most funny coach that Trey Young would
Speaker 2: be clamoring for in the most subtweet thirteen year old
Speaker 2: boy kind of way.
Speaker 1: Who would it be? Think about it? Think about it.
Speaker 1: Coach who has no idea what he's doing. Think about that.
Speaker 1: A coach who gives no.
Speaker 2: Accountability to his players. A coach that does not run
Speaker 2: practices at all. A coach that wants you to throw
Speaker 2: up thirty footers.
Speaker 1: With ten seconds into a shot clock. Max.
Speaker 2: No, not d'antni. I know that's where you were going.
Speaker 2: How about d'antoni's next iteration, his next little robot? Steve
Speaker 2: Nash people, no.
Speaker 1: Joke, No joke. Trey Young on the wake of how
Speaker 1: did he even get this jersey?
Speaker 2: By the way, In the wake of Nate McMillan's firing,
Speaker 2: he posts a photo to his fucking Instagram with the
Speaker 2: Steve Nash jersey on an old school Phoenix suns. Steve
Speaker 2: Nash Jersey, and I don't even know what to say.
Speaker 2: First of all, the fact that he had that waiting
Speaker 2: to take that photo like an angsty girl right outside
Speaker 2: of Claire's is crazy. It's crazy, but it's also funny.
Speaker 2: I think there's no more perfect combination than those two.
Speaker 2: It's kind of like, I don't know. He's on strike
Speaker 2: right now, Trey Young for personal reasons not coming to
Speaker 2: practices or games. But like he's perfect, He's perfect. Trey
Speaker 2: Young needs this kind of coach. Where wants this kind
Speaker 2: of coach. Steve not Nash is the substitute teacher of coaches,
Speaker 2: That's what he is. He's like shows up and he's like,
Speaker 2: so I'm reading this roll call? Is is John Collins here?
Speaker 2: Anybody's seen John Collins? Does John Collins still go to
Speaker 2: the school. Yeah, we don't know either. We don't know either.
Speaker 2: What about client Client Kapila? It's client Kapila here. That's
Speaker 2: Steve Nash right before practice. He doesn't know who's who,
Speaker 2: where anybody's at. Remember when all that Harden shit was
Speaker 2: going down. He's like, I haven't even talked to James Harden.
Speaker 1: Remember well the Kyrie thing went down. He's like, I
Speaker 1: haven't even spoke to Kyrie. People were like, do you
Speaker 1: not have their number? Or do they not call you back?
Speaker 1: Do they not answer? What is your deal? Steve Nash?
Speaker 2: And now you got a twenty seven year old sign
Speaker 2: in checks down in Atlanta.
Speaker 1: I honestly see this happening. I think it happens. I
Speaker 1: think it happens.
Speaker 2: If it does, better believe I'm getting Hawk season tickets.
Speaker 1: I might move to Atlanta. I might be a new
Speaker 1: Atlanta Hawks beat reporter. I need it. I need it.
Speaker 1: Those two together, peas and carrots