WEBVTT - Atlanta Hawks Axe Head Coach Nate McMillan

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<v Speaker 1>The big news this week in the league. We got

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<v Speaker 1>some tea. Now, we got some things happening.

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<v Speaker 2>We got some butts that are hot, and the butts

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<v Speaker 2>that are hot finally, now get the boot. Nate McMillan

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<v Speaker 2>fired in Atlanta. So I have a history with Nate.

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<v Speaker 2>He coached the Blazers for a really long time. I

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<v Speaker 2>had to watch those ugly offenses for I don't even

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<v Speaker 2>know how many years.

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<v Speaker 1>It was too many.

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<v Speaker 2>They walked the ball up the court like you had

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<v Speaker 2>to walk it to half court. That was his mandate,

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<v Speaker 2>and that was just what they did. Had one of

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<v Speaker 2>the slowest paces in the NBA. But what happened to Atlanta,

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<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about that, because that's what's important, and it's not,

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<v Speaker 2>in my opinion, Nate's fault. In fact, I think he

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<v Speaker 2>has adapted much better than new NBA that I thought.

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<v Speaker 1>He would ever would. Yeah, is you got stuck with

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<v Speaker 1>Trey Young. That's what it is. He got stuck in Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 2>He had a really incredible run based around some luck

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<v Speaker 2>and some help and some skill, and they went to

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<v Speaker 2>the Eastern Conference finals, which they never were ever going

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<v Speaker 2>to do again.

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<v Speaker 1>And then they hired him.

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<v Speaker 2>They hired an interim head coach that maybe was gonna

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<v Speaker 2>work with Trey Young.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe not.

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<v Speaker 2>And we talked about this before Atlanta fired one of

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<v Speaker 2>the most respected NBA executives in the league in Travis Slank,

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<v Speaker 2>and they brought in the owner's twenty year old son.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a little, as my mom would say, a little

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<v Speaker 2>nepatis at work. And so what you thought, what you

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<v Speaker 2>thought they weren't gonna fire Nate McMillan. Come on, now,

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<v Speaker 2>this firing is no shock. But what I did think

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<v Speaker 2>was surprising is that they have been trying to push

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<v Speaker 2>Nate McMillan out the door, encouraging him.

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<v Speaker 1>To resign on his own for weeks now.

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<v Speaker 2>And Nate was like, nah, dog, you're gonna have to

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<v Speaker 2>You're gonna have to put me into the guillotine and

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<v Speaker 2>show the world that you asked me yourself. I am

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<v Speaker 2>not about to do you the pleasure where it's like

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<v Speaker 2>a mutual parting of ways. I am exposing the dysfunction

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<v Speaker 2>in this franchise. Go ahead, fire me after you just

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<v Speaker 2>fired Lloyd Pierce two years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Do it again.

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<v Speaker 2>Show the rest of the world what's going on. Show

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<v Speaker 2>the quinn Snyders of the world, what kind of organization

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<v Speaker 2>you are, And you kind of get a sense of

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<v Speaker 2>what happened from John Collins because John Collins said, uh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Nate would have been a good coach, a great coach

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<v Speaker 2>for a quote more mature team. And so people want

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<v Speaker 2>to read that as older, and I don't. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think that means older. I think that means more mature.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, like how there's old souls and young souls,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I believe Trey Young.

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<v Speaker 1>Is a young soul.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he's gonna be thirty five doing this bullshit.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we can pretty definitively say now the Trey

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<v Speaker 2>Young he is a coach killer. He could be considered

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<v Speaker 2>a certified coach killer. He has a shift in his

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<v Speaker 2>back pocket at all times. And you know what, he's

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<v Speaker 2>killed more coaches at this stage is in the NBA

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<v Speaker 2>than Hall of Fame coach killers have so far. He

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<v Speaker 2>is now working on his third head coach interim and

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<v Speaker 2>then a new one. And he's going to be a

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<v Speaker 2>coach killer from now and to the end of his

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<v Speaker 2>career unless unless something drastic happens.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. So look at his track record.

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<v Speaker 2>He's now had two coaches fired in three years, both

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<v Speaker 2>that he had personal conflict with Right his team has

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<v Speaker 2>gotten progressively worse since the surprise run to the Eastern

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<v Speaker 2>Conference Finals. He had beef with Nate this year, and

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<v Speaker 2>everybody knew that. Anonymous sources within the Hawks claim that

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<v Speaker 2>the majority of players actually sided with Nate in their

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<v Speaker 2>season long dispute.

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<v Speaker 1>And so you usually.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't see players side with management over a teammate.

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<v Speaker 1>So what does that mean?

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<v Speaker 2>That means that uh, Trey Young is unpopular with coaches

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<v Speaker 2>and unpopular with teammates.

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<v Speaker 1>Not a great combo.

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<v Speaker 2>So the question is who is the new regime that

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<v Speaker 2>twenty seven year old nick wrestler and his best friend

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<v Speaker 2>Landry Fields are tasked with trying to keep this shit

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<v Speaker 2>from sinking? And who are these people? Let's look at

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<v Speaker 2>the crop of candidates. We've got some that we need

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<v Speaker 2>to discuss.

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<v Speaker 1>Quinn Snyder.

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<v Speaker 2>Quinn Snyder there are working on having discussions as we speak.

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<v Speaker 2>And Quinn Snyder, as you know, former coach of the

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<v Speaker 2>Utah Jazz. And so at first glance, this might seem.

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<v Speaker 1>Like a perfect fit.

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<v Speaker 2>Trey Young is his new donovan, Mitchell Cappella and John

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<v Speaker 2>Collins can play like Rudy Gobert except for less lobbs

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<v Speaker 2>in Utah, obviously because Donovan Mitchell wasn't giving any to

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<v Speaker 2>Rudy Gobert. But where Mike Conley was. That team was

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<v Speaker 2>first in the West. That team had a historically good offense.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they were the number one overall offense in

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<v Speaker 2>the league. They had shooters surrounding their guards.

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<v Speaker 1>But let's be clear, number one, that Utah team was

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<v Speaker 1>not a success.

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<v Speaker 2>That team style does not benefit in the modern NBA.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a wing driven league, not a guard driven

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<v Speaker 2>league anymore. And this is not going to work in

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<v Speaker 2>one of the most dysfunctional places in the NBA, which

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<v Speaker 2>is Atlanta. I do not think that Quinn Snyder will

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<v Speaker 2>want to build a team around Trey Young and his bullshit.

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<v Speaker 2>And I do not think he will build a team

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<v Speaker 2>that cohesively works with Trey Young.

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<v Speaker 1>Not because he's a bad coach.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a good coach, Not because he can't make the

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<v Speaker 2>roster work and the skill sets on the team work.

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<v Speaker 2>But this guy, Quinn Snyder rumored And you may say, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>this is not important, this is not an important fact.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Quinn Snyder is rumored to be the type of coach

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<v Speaker 2>that has seating charts on his bus, has a very

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<v Speaker 2>strict style of leadership, close to what Lloyd Pierce and

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<v Speaker 2>Nate McMillan had. Do you believe that Trey Young will

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<v Speaker 2>like someone who has seating charts on the bus?

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<v Speaker 1>I do not think he will respond well to that.

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<v Speaker 2>This has rebuild written all over it, and if Quinn

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<v Speaker 2>Snyder is smart, he will stay all the way away.

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<v Speaker 2>Moving on to Charles Lee. Charles Lee, well respected Buck's assistant.

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<v Speaker 2>He's gonna get a job soon.

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<v Speaker 1>This could be it, This might be it. It's known

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<v Speaker 1>as a player's coach.

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<v Speaker 2>He's worked really well with superstars, which is very important

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<v Speaker 2>on this Atlanta Hawks team. He's an ego manager Giannis Drew,

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<v Speaker 2>Chris Middleton, so he knows how to do that. And

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<v Speaker 2>let's be real, like, this is probably the best fit

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<v Speaker 2>for a very thankless job.

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<v Speaker 1>Is going to be fired in two years at best.

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<v Speaker 2>He's going to be on the payroll at the same

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<v Speaker 2>time as Nate and Lloyd are and probably whoever follows

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<v Speaker 2>him as a successor.

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<v Speaker 1>So so why not, Charles Lee? Why not gotta start somewhere.

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<v Speaker 2>Next up is Jordi Fernandez, Jordy Fernandez shows you how

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<v Speaker 2>far the Kings have come. Assistant for the Sacramento Kings.

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<v Speaker 1>Finally get in some love.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think I've seen a team try to poach

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<v Speaker 2>and assist it off the Kings in my lifetime. So

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<v Speaker 2>that just shows you how good nobody's like, Hey, how

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<v Speaker 2>do I get a little of that juice that the

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<v Speaker 2>Sacramento Kings have? How do I steal a little piece.

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<v Speaker 1>Of what the Kings are doing? Now? That is the case.

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<v Speaker 2>That is just another sign the Kings are on the rise.

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<v Speaker 2>Other franchises trying to take a little bit of your

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<v Speaker 2>pixie dust and try to reconfigure.

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<v Speaker 1>That magic on their team. He is a really great coach.

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<v Speaker 2>All that you need to know about him is that

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<v Speaker 2>when he filled in for Mike Brown, the entire team

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<v Speaker 2>rallied around him.

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<v Speaker 1>They celebrated him like it was Game seven of the Finals.

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<v Speaker 2>They had champagne, they had goggles, they were spraying them

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<v Speaker 2>like it was the gatorade.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the whole thing screams respect.

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<v Speaker 2>Speaking of respect, Next up on this list of candidates

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<v Speaker 2>is Kenny Atkinson. We know him from his brief time

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<v Speaker 2>as the nets head coach before Kevin Durant and Kyrie

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<v Speaker 2>Irving killed him. Currently a Warriors assistant, he took the

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<v Speaker 2>job for the Charlotte Hornets for like, I think eleven minutes,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe twelve. He woke up out of a panic and said, oh, no, baby,

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<v Speaker 2>I can't take this shop.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, oh no, no, no, I got to go.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going back to the bay. My mom, my family,

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<v Speaker 2>whoever he said was there. Oh, it's a business family decision,

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<v Speaker 2>and we love Santa Cruz.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>He is too smart to hitch his wagon to being

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<v Speaker 2>on the verge of a glue factory. Kenny Atkinson knows

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<v Speaker 2>what it's like to be on a team where you

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<v Speaker 2>could be cut and discarded.

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<v Speaker 1>At any given time. Do you think he wants to

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<v Speaker 1>do that?

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<v Speaker 2>No. I would be shocked if Kenny Atkinson even agrees

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<v Speaker 2>to interview.

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<v Speaker 1>For this dick ass job.

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<v Speaker 2>This situation could be worse than the Hornet's job. At

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<v Speaker 2>least the Hornets job, you know, is a rebuild. They

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<v Speaker 2>think they're better than a rebuild. That's the crazy thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there are a lot of other jobs that

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<v Speaker 1>Kenny Atkinson would be suited for.

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<v Speaker 2>Mitch Johnson, Miles Simon, just a couple of randoms that

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<v Speaker 2>you gotta throw in there. Johnson is one of Papovitch's

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<v Speaker 2>assistants to San Antonio, and I think it's like mandated

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<v Speaker 2>anytime you have a new opening, you just have to

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<v Speaker 2>interview a San Antonio Spurs assistant because.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why, that's just how it goes.

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<v Speaker 2>And then Miles Simons, who coaches the South Bay Lakers

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<v Speaker 2>of the G League. I'm not even sure why his

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<v Speaker 2>name is bringing up like the regular Lakers, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>even think you would want to interview for the job

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of those coaches, so I don't thin he

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<v Speaker 2>has any shot.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we've got a dark horse people.

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<v Speaker 2>E may Youdoka, Come on down, Come on down, e

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<v Speaker 2>may Udoka, dark horse. I would love nothing more than

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<v Speaker 2>emy Udoka to get this job. There's not even any

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<v Speaker 2>joke in that. I think he would be the best

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<v Speaker 2>person for this job. I think he is the only

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<v Speaker 2>coach who could fix this team defensively.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it would be phenomenal. He would destroy Trey

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<v Speaker 1>Young in the media.

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<v Speaker 2>He would tell you everything that was going on, Like

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<v Speaker 2>can you imagine when Trey Young didn't show up to the.

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<v Speaker 1>Game, what e may Udoka, what is said about him?

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<v Speaker 2>To the media and Trey Young'd be like, Oh, it's

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<v Speaker 2>my personal business. I keep my private business to myself. No, no, baby.

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<v Speaker 2>Now with e may Udoka, he knows what it's like

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<v Speaker 2>to have his business down the street and this is

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<v Speaker 2>all about the game right now. He would see the

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<v Speaker 2>two practices of Trey Young not playing defense, doing his

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<v Speaker 2>bullshit and not getting John Collins involved, just icing out teammates,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know what, he would say it, Trey Young

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<v Speaker 2>needs to pass the ball more, he needs to play

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<v Speaker 2>some defense. His demeanor is perfect for a young team.

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<v Speaker 2>He won't get the job because politics, I guess, but

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<v Speaker 2>it would be highly entertaining if he did. And also

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<v Speaker 2>from the Hawk's perspective, And maybe they're not even thinking

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<v Speaker 2>about this because I don't think they're particularly smart.

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<v Speaker 1>What do I know? Do we really trust you? May

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<v Speaker 1>You don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Could just be in a city like Atlanta all the time,

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<v Speaker 2>where there's like more strip clubs prey capital than anywhere else.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like it's popping in Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 2>The opportunities for mischief are high. The big question, though,

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<v Speaker 2>is who does Trey Young prefer. I guess that's the

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<v Speaker 2>only question worth asking at this point because Atlanta seems

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<v Speaker 2>committed to keep Trey Young happy for God knows why, reasons.

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<v Speaker 1>You will never guest, though, who Trey Young wants. Just guess,

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<v Speaker 1>just guess.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really funny if you had to guess the most

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<v Speaker 2>funny place, the most funny coach that Trey Young would

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<v Speaker 2>be clamoring for in the most subtweet thirteen year old

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<v Speaker 2>boy kind of way.

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<v Speaker 1>Who would it be? Think about it? Think about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Coach who has no idea what he's doing. Think about that.

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<v Speaker 1>A coach who gives no.

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<v Speaker 2>Accountability to his players. A coach that does not run

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<v Speaker 2>practices at all. A coach that wants you to throw

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<v Speaker 2>up thirty footers.

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<v Speaker 1>With ten seconds into a shot clock. Max.

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<v Speaker 2>No, not d'antni. I know that's where you were going.

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<v Speaker 2>How about d'antoni's next iteration, his next little robot? Steve

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<v Speaker 2>Nash people, no.

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<v Speaker 1>Joke, No joke. Trey Young on the wake of how

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<v Speaker 1>did he even get this jersey?

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, In the wake of Nate McMillan's firing,

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<v Speaker 2>he posts a photo to his fucking Instagram with the

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<v Speaker 2>Steve Nash jersey on an old school Phoenix suns. Steve

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<v Speaker 2>Nash Jersey, and I don't even know what to say.

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<v Speaker 2>First of all, the fact that he had that waiting

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<v Speaker 2>to take that photo like an angsty girl right outside

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<v Speaker 2>of Claire's is crazy. It's crazy, but it's also funny.

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<v Speaker 2>I think there's no more perfect combination than those two.

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<v Speaker 2>It's kind of like, I don't know. He's on strike

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<v Speaker 2>right now, Trey Young for personal reasons not coming to

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<v Speaker 2>practices or games. But like he's perfect, He's perfect. Trey

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<v Speaker 2>Young needs this kind of coach. Where wants this kind

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<v Speaker 2>of coach. Steve not Nash is the substitute teacher of coaches,

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<v Speaker 2>That's what he is. He's like shows up and he's like,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm reading this roll call? Is is John Collins here?

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<v Speaker 2>Anybody's seen John Collins? Does John Collins still go to

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<v Speaker 2>the school. Yeah, we don't know either. We don't know either.

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<v Speaker 2>What about client Client Kapila? It's client Kapila here. That's

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<v Speaker 2>Steve Nash right before practice. He doesn't know who's who,

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<v Speaker 2>where anybody's at. Remember when all that Harden shit was

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<v Speaker 2>going down. He's like, I haven't even talked to James Harden.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember well the Kyrie thing went down. He's like, I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't even spoke to Kyrie. People were like, do you

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<v Speaker 1>not have their number? Or do they not call you back?

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<v Speaker 1>Do they not answer? What is your deal? Steve Nash?

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<v Speaker 2>And now you got a twenty seven year old sign

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<v Speaker 2>in checks down in Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 1>I honestly see this happening. I think it happens. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it happens.

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<v Speaker 2>If it does, better believe I'm getting Hawk season tickets.

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<v Speaker 1>I might move to Atlanta. I might be a new

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<v Speaker 1>Atlanta Hawks beat reporter. I need it. I need it.

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<v Speaker 1>Those two together, peas and carrots