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Speaker 1: What's its way for Angela?

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Speaker 2: Yeeya.

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Speaker 1: If y'all don't already.

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Speaker 3: Know, I'm a big fan of Real Housewives of Atlanta

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Speaker 3: and Sonya. Richards Ross is here.

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Speaker 4: I'm excited to be here. Thanks for having me. Finally

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Speaker 4: made it work.

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Speaker 2: I feel like we've been trying to do this for

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Speaker 2: a while.

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Speaker 3: I know, and you guys have been in town filming

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Speaker 3: the reunion. Yes, I saw the seating chart. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 3: so you're next to Marlowe. Yes, okay, that's my girl. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know it's perfect.

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Speaker 2: Streets.

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Speaker 3: But so when you when you did that deep side, like, yes,

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Speaker 3: how has it been so far?

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Speaker 1: The reunion or just the reunion?

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Speaker 2: No, the reunion.

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Speaker 4: So honestly, the first reunion was tougher for me because

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Speaker 4: I didn't know what to expect. I was super anxious.

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Speaker 2: It was just a lot. This is what I knew

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Speaker 2: what to expect, and I.

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Speaker 4: Was excited about it because feel like the reunion gives

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Speaker 4: you an opportunity to air everything out right. This is

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Speaker 4: like long form. Were there for hours, like what are

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Speaker 4: the issues? And I felt like yesterday we did a

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Speaker 4: really good job of getting through everything. It was. It

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Speaker 4: didn't feel like it was a long day like last time,

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Speaker 4: we were there for till like midnight yesterday. We got

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Speaker 4: really good, all.

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Speaker 3: Right, And you've had a lot going on. So this

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Speaker 3: is your second season on Real House as Atlanta. Like

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Speaker 3: you said, the first season, you didn't quite know what

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Speaker 3: to expect. How was that adjustment because you had your

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Speaker 3: own show before that was focused on you and your family,

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Speaker 3: but now you're part of a cast of women who

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Speaker 3: you didn't necessarily know, right or even like grow.

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Speaker 1: Up, you know, being friends with right.

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Speaker 4: No, I think that a lot of people don't understand

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Speaker 4: how challenging it is to join such an iconic cast,

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: Like, obviously I had watched the show before, so I.

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Speaker 4: Knew the women before, and so you know, it was

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Speaker 4: tricky because you want to show up fully as yourself,

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Speaker 4: but quite naturally when you first meet people, you know,

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Speaker 4: it's an adjustment, like I'm trying to get to know you,

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Speaker 4: like you might not understand my humor or my sarcasm.

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Speaker 4: And so I feel like that was tough, and it's

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Speaker 4: all being aired when people wanted you to do X,

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Speaker 4: Y and Z, and so you know, I think building real,

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Speaker 4: meaningful friendships, which is what makes the show works, takes time,

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Speaker 4: and so this season I.

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Speaker 2: Felt like I got a little bit better.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I felt like even more authentic and organic,

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Speaker 4: you know, as a part of the cast.

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Speaker 3: Now, one of the things about you that comes up

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Speaker 3: is that people act like, you know, you go back

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Speaker 3: and forth. Then who is she really friends with? She

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Speaker 3: says she's neutral, but she's not neutral. Do you feel

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Speaker 3: like you were forced to kind of have to pick

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Speaker 4: It's a good question, Angela and I. So here's the

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Speaker 4: whole thing about that. I feel like the fans and

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Speaker 4: which I love, forget that I've only known these women

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Speaker 4: for the same length of time, right, so I'm literally

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Speaker 4: trying to get.

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Speaker 2: To know everybody.

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Speaker 4: So at that point, when you know, before season two started,

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Speaker 4: I and in the off season, I had gotten really

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Speaker 4: close to Candy and Marlowe.

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Speaker 2: Those are the two I hung out with the most.

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Speaker 4: So then first couple, you know, first couple of weeks,

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Speaker 4: they get into this huge fight and I'm like, oh god,

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Speaker 4: So I really was trying to be a good friend

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Speaker 4: and trying to mediate the situation I didn't pick aside.

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Speaker 4: I went to Candy, I said, hey, you know, what

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Speaker 2: But I feel like people don't understand that's not riding

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Speaker 4: That's what friendship looks like when you're a friend group

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Speaker 4: where two of your friends have fallen out, like you know,

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Speaker 4: so I felt like I wasn't trying to pick a

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Speaker 4: It was more about just trying to show up for

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Speaker 4: both of them. And as the season continues, I do

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Speaker 4: become closer Tomorrow throughout the season, but that's just organic.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a natural thing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And Kenya has also on followed you.

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Speaker 3: I saw that was a thing on social medium and

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Speaker 3: all right, but in Oftenish she did host your auction

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Speaker 3: for you as the auctioneer, which is nice. It's a nonprofit, yes,

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Speaker 3: And I told her when she was at Paris, like

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Speaker 3: that was nice that you were able to do that.

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Speaker 4: As soon as you asked her, she said ye. As

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Speaker 4: soon as I asked her, she said yes, yeah, And

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Speaker 4: I appreciate that so much. I Mean, one of the

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Speaker 4: things I love about the women on this show is

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Speaker 4: up for that person.

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Speaker 2: And that's just been my experience.

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Speaker 4: And what Keanya did, I mean, helping us raise eighty

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Speaker 4: thousand dollars and helping so far over eighteen women who

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Speaker 4: are suffering with homelessness who have children, I mean, credible. Yeah, however,

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Speaker 4: there is however, but but there is also while that's happening, simultaneously,

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Speaker 4: we're trying to build a friendship too off camera on camera,

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Speaker 4: and I felt like, and we talked about this on

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Speaker 4: the reunions, I don't want to get too deep into it.

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Speaker 2: You know. That's amazing.

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Speaker 4: I love that she did that for my mammy Nation,

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Speaker 4: But at the same time, there were things that she

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Speaker 4: was doing to me personally that I didn't feel like

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Speaker 4: she was really trying to build our friendship.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: And so what happens is that people see something and

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Speaker 4: then and then you know, and then something else.

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Speaker 2: Happened, like, well, how would she?

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Speaker 4: But I appreciate Kenny for what she did, but there's

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Speaker 4: some other things that you, guys will hear that I

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Speaker 4: was disappointed with how she treated me, you know, in

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Speaker 4: other situations.

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Speaker 3: Ready a cliffhanger, guys, And I should have started this

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Speaker 3: off by saying congratulationss I apologize for that. Congratulations. The

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Speaker 2: How did that? Who said that?

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Speaker 3: I saw that in the December twenty who said.

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Speaker 4: That, Yeah, I'm here or she is due in December?

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Speaker 4: That is? She? Okay, No, I'm calling her she because

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Speaker 4: I want a girl. So I will constantly slip and

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Speaker 4: say that. But I don't know what it is yet. Okay,

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Speaker 4: So I try to hear she, hear she, But I

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Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, yeah, first, and you know, and

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Speaker 3: even having to be able to film the show while

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Speaker 3: you were pregnant before and then being open about a miscarriage,

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Speaker 3: that's something that so many women go through, right, and

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Speaker 3: then for you to be able to open up about

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Speaker 3: things like that, I'm sure a lot of people reached

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Speaker 3: out to you to share their own experiences too.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that was Angela, so you know, I had this

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Speaker 4: company that I started four or five years ago called

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Speaker 4: have heard almost everything right from miscarriages to you know, infertility,

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Speaker 4: I was like, Okay, we're going to do this. This

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Speaker 4: was just really hard. And you actually see the fullness

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Speaker 1: That's crazy to have to watch. But then what a

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Speaker 1: blessing that a month later here you are.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so God restores And I'm so grateful because I

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Speaker 3: So how did your husband how to ross help you

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Speaker 4: That that moment in our relationship. It was almost like

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw you, like, listen, this marriage, let's cover

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Speaker 3: this marriage.

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Speaker 1: Yes, marriage is under attack.

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Speaker 2: Did you see that.

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Speaker 4: It's like I'm like, every day it was like another

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Speaker 4: breaking news, someone divorcing. I'm like, God, I pray at home,

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Speaker 4: I said, but I need the world to get this

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Speaker 4: I love my husband so much and he's just such

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Speaker 2: Like what is it really? And I realized that as.

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Speaker 2: And I struggled with that.

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Speaker 4: I was like, man, I felt overwhelmed with motherhood with

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Speaker 2: That I love at a high level, you know.

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Speaker 4: And so when I lost that child in New York,

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Speaker 4: I really had to recenter and be like, you know what,

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Speaker 4: I can do this, like I've done it before. I

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Speaker 4: have all the support and resources that I need. Family

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Speaker 4: comes first, like that is number one we know.

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Speaker 2: Coming out.

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Speaker 4: And then I know if I know as a woman,

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Speaker 2: But I wasn't there for a long time.

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Speaker 3: And that is something to think about too, because I've

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Speaker 3: Let's do it, okay, because your sister works with you,

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Speaker 4: has been, Oh my god, like just so challenging.

444
00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:22,600
Speaker 2: I feel so bad for them.

445
00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:24,399
Speaker 4: Like I was saying, you know when I met that,

446
00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:26,200
Speaker 4: I met them two years ago, we went out to dinner.

447
00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,359
Speaker 4: It was the four of us with Ross, and I

448
00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:29,760
Speaker 4: just thought it was so great. I was like, they

449
00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:32,240
Speaker 4: just were full of love and they were laughing. I

450
00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:34,080
Speaker 4: was like, oh my god, they're so dope. So to

451
00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,520
Speaker 4: see where they are now is just so heartbreaking for me.

452
00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:38,199
Speaker 4: And so I just want to be there for her

453
00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,280
Speaker 4: and support her because I know they have three beautiful

454
00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:42,600
Speaker 4: kids and it's just a lot. So we're in a

455
00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:45,960
Speaker 4: good spot right now. I'm trying to think of something

456
00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:49,440
Speaker 4: that kind of caught me off guard when I saw it.

457
00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:53,240
Speaker 4: A lot a lot of I'm sure you like, so

458
00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:55,639
Speaker 4: you sit home and watch the episodes or so we

459
00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:58,360
Speaker 4: get the episodes a couple of days earlier when it airs. Yeah,

460
00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,720
Speaker 4: because you got to do like watch what happened exactly, Okay, exactly.

461
00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:03,600
Speaker 4: So we don't get a lot, we don't have no

462
00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:05,320
Speaker 4: editing power or anything like that, but we do get

463
00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:06,640
Speaker 4: to see them. And I do watch him, of course,

464
00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:10,280
Speaker 4: because I mean, I mean I love the show. I

465
00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:12,720
Speaker 4: want to see how, you know, how it all comes together, because,

466
00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:13,879
Speaker 4: like you said, a lot of times, I don't know

467
00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:18,480
Speaker 4: what's going on in somebody else's personal story as intensely

468
00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:20,800
Speaker 4: as we get to see it on camera. So yeah,

469
00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:22,960
Speaker 4: I watch it, and you know, sometimes I'm like watching

470
00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:23,560
Speaker 4: it like this.

471
00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:27,200
Speaker 1: Does he watched it with you? Is he sometimes because

472
00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:27,879
Speaker 1: you're his wife?

473
00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:28,480
Speaker 4: You know?

474
00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:31,000
Speaker 3: Is he defensive because it can be hard for him

475
00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:32,920
Speaker 3: to have to wet things, just like I saw one

476
00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:34,959
Speaker 3: time your mom was reading your comments.

477
00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:36,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, and sometimes that's the hardest thing.

478
00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:38,960
Speaker 2: It ain't about you, it's the people who you love,

479
00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:39,520
Speaker 2: who love it.

480
00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:42,360
Speaker 1: They have to see And I know she don't play exactly.

481
00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:44,880
Speaker 4: The one that takes stuff the heartest is actually my sister,

482
00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:46,440
Speaker 4: Like she can't even really watch the show anymore. It

483
00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:48,640
Speaker 4: used to be her favorite show, Like she never missed

484
00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:50,679
Speaker 4: the episode of rho A and then I got on

485
00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:54,000
Speaker 4: the platform. She's like, you ruined my favorite show, so

486
00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:57,479
Speaker 4: that sucks. Ross watches it like my mom. My mom

487
00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:00,119
Speaker 4: actually can watch too, but my sister's the one who

488
00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:01,640
Speaker 4: has the hardest time Ross most of the times.

489
00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:04,000
Speaker 2: Like he gets it. He's like, they'll get.

490
00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,359
Speaker 4: To know you more, like you knows he understands it

491
00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:09,639
Speaker 4: better and doesn't take everything so personal about you know

492
00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:10,359
Speaker 4: what happens with me.

493
00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:12,760
Speaker 3: So yeah, he's a good He's good with it. Now,

494
00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:15,840
Speaker 3: how athletic is your son? Because we were talking about

495
00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:18,199
Speaker 3: this before you came in the room, Like, you know,

496
00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:20,880
Speaker 3: her kids are gonna be beasts when it comes to sports.

497
00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:22,720
Speaker 3: And does that mean something to you? Like do you

498
00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:25,520
Speaker 3: want to make sure that your kids are active and

499
00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:27,760
Speaker 3: maybe even you know, professional athletes.

500
00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:28,720
Speaker 1: Is that something you want?

501
00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,480
Speaker 4: Yeah? So what I want is I definitely want my

502
00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,800
Speaker 4: son to participate in sports because I do believe that

503
00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:36,960
Speaker 4: sports is one of your greatest life teachers. So I

504
00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:40,040
Speaker 4: think every child who has any inclination or like sports

505
00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,400
Speaker 4: should do it because it teaches you discipline and hard

506
00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,280
Speaker 4: work and how to rebound from disappointment. All those great

507
00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:47,639
Speaker 4: skill sets that you need in life. So I definitely

508
00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:50,639
Speaker 4: want him to do that. But he, let me tell

509
00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:52,480
Speaker 4: you something, he thinks he's sonic, Like he think he

510
00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:56,080
Speaker 4: could beat me already, Like he's he's wildly competitive for

511
00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:57,760
Speaker 4: a six year old. Five year old, he'll be six

512
00:19:57,800 --> 00:19:59,879
Speaker 4: in August, and he has the speed and stuff, so

513
00:19:59,880 --> 00:20:00,920
Speaker 4: he looks like he's.

514
00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:01,680
Speaker 2: Gonna have the chops.

515
00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:03,480
Speaker 4: But I just feel I don't want to put any

516
00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:06,119
Speaker 4: pressure on him. I'm like, poor kid, Like UT's already

517
00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:09,200
Speaker 4: offer him scholarships, you know, play play no, just jokingly

518
00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:12,040
Speaker 4: like make sure he comes to UT. I'm like, yes, yes,

519
00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:14,880
Speaker 4: Like so I just don't have too much pressure on him.

520
00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:16,880
Speaker 3: What about football, because you know a lot of parents

521
00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:21,280
Speaker 3: are nervous about their kids playing football. But obviously Ross

522
00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:24,240
Speaker 3: played in the NFL, So would you be okay if

523
00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:24,720
Speaker 3: he was like.

524
00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:25,479
Speaker 1: I want to play?

525
00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:28,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, both Ross and I would prefer him not to

526
00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:29,480
Speaker 4: play football.

527
00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:30,040
Speaker 1: Okay.

528
00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,919
Speaker 4: So he's in soccer now, and we love soccer. I

529
00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,399
Speaker 4: think that's a great sport obviously, track, Like, you know,

530
00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:38,679
Speaker 4: football is getting tougher and tougher, right, the athletes are

531
00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:39,679
Speaker 4: getting bigger faster.

532
00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:42,720
Speaker 2: We saw with Hamlin.

533
00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:46,440
Speaker 4: Date was for Damien Hamlin, Damar Zamar Hamlin when he

534
00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:49,080
Speaker 4: you know, was on the field and it looked so scary,

535
00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,159
Speaker 4: and so you know, obviously it's gonna be hard to

536
00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,359
Speaker 4: tell him no when his dad played for so long.

537
00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,240
Speaker 4: But I think every mom would agree, like, you just

538
00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,480
Speaker 4: don't want to see your kid in that. Yeah, So

539
00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:02,040
Speaker 4: hopefully he plays something else.

540
00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:05,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, And what about you as being the person on

541
00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:07,480
Speaker 3: the show, it feels like you and Candy are the

542
00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,760
Speaker 3: ones that are like in the most you know, stable

543
00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,919
Speaker 3: relationships right now. And so when it comes to you

544
00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,960
Speaker 3: haven't dated in a long time, it's a whole.

545
00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:18,720
Speaker 1: Different you know, error out.

546
00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,800
Speaker 3: Here right, Yeah, it's hot out here, Okay, So what

547
00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:25,719
Speaker 3: type of advice are you giving, say Marlow, when it

548
00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:26,439
Speaker 3: comes to dating.

549
00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:28,320
Speaker 4: So I think, like you said, I haven't been a

550
00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,080
Speaker 4: dating game for a long time, and I got very

551
00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,359
Speaker 4: lucky to find the love of my life in college, right,

552
00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:34,400
Speaker 4: which I feel like is where you should find them

553
00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,679
Speaker 4: because there's so many options when you're young and in college, Like,

554
00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:39,520
Speaker 4: as you get older, you don't want to go places

555
00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,800
Speaker 4: where men are so anyways, but like, lord.

556
00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:43,080
Speaker 2: How do you do?

557
00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:43,960
Speaker 1: It's not that lucky?

558
00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:45,560
Speaker 2: Okay?

559
00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:47,679
Speaker 4: If you don't find it in college a couple of

560
00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:49,320
Speaker 4: the tips I would say. So, I think that worked

561
00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:51,680
Speaker 4: for Ross and I is. I feel like it's important

562
00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,199
Speaker 4: to communicate even in the early stages, like what do

563
00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,200
Speaker 4: you both want? Because what happens a lot of times

564
00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:57,879
Speaker 4: you're in a relationship with somebody and y'all don't want

565
00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,000
Speaker 4: the same things, right like he looking for a wife

566
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:01,960
Speaker 4: when you're looking for, you know, a booth thing or

567
00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,600
Speaker 4: vice versa. So I feel like you gotta be always

568
00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,560
Speaker 4: very clear as to what you want. I think people

569
00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 4: have a lot of pride and don't want to say it,

570
00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,280
Speaker 4: so they end up waiting. So I think once you

571
00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,520
Speaker 4: develop that kind of communication, it.

572
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 2: Gets stronger and stronger as you go. And Rosso and

573
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:17,040
Speaker 2: I communicate.

574
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,320
Speaker 4: Very well, right, super clear about what it is we

575
00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:21,080
Speaker 4: want and all that kind of stuff. I think you

576
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,639
Speaker 4: also cannot, like Marlowe. I tell Marlowe, you can't have

577
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,600
Speaker 4: this list or this vision of what the person's gonna be,

578
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:29,840
Speaker 4: because nine times out of ten, that's not what God's

579
00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:31,280
Speaker 4: gonna bless you with. You know what I mean?

580
00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:33,359
Speaker 2: You have to just be open, have an open heart.

581
00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:35,280
Speaker 3: And when you're at a certain level too, it's also

582
00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,200
Speaker 3: gets a little harder, you know, Yeah, pool gets.

583
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,040
Speaker 4: Slimmer and slimmer, Yeah, exactly, And so I think you

584
00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,320
Speaker 4: have to have an open heart and not have this

585
00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:45,359
Speaker 4: preconceived idea of what he's gonna look like, what he's

586
00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:48,680
Speaker 4: gonna do. And then I think, and then I think,

587
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,240
Speaker 4: then probably the most important thing is you focus on yourself.

588
00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:53,960
Speaker 4: I think for me, when I was in college, I

589
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 4: was focusing on being Olympic champion and being the best

590
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,040
Speaker 4: I could be, and I feel like I attracted somebody

591
00:22:58,119 --> 00:22:59,960
Speaker 4: who was similar, right, you know what I mean. When

592
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:01,879
Speaker 4: you're focused on you and doing all the things that

593
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,160
Speaker 4: make you happy and growing, I feel like you attract

594
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,160
Speaker 4: the right person. So I think those are the three

595
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 4: tips I would get.

596
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 3: What were some of the challenges for you guys haven't

597
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 3: gotten together at such a young age that because that

598
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:12,920
Speaker 3: is young and y'all were both like at the top

599
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,360
Speaker 3: of what it is that you do. So what were

600
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 3: some of the challenges that you had early on?

601
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 4: So this is going to sound crazy, but like our

602
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,359
Speaker 4: marriage up until probably right before Duce was like a

603
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:25,639
Speaker 4: was like a honeymoon fairy tale, Like we didn't have

604
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,359
Speaker 4: a lot of issues. And even though my husband played

605
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,640
Speaker 4: in New York and I remember going to a game

606
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:34,320
Speaker 4: one time Angela and Or like their camp, and they

607
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,560
Speaker 4: were like women outside with their phone numbers.

608
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 1: Like on billboards.

609
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:42,440
Speaker 2: I put it on, I'll put on everything. I love laws.

610
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 4: I also think that's kept me safe too, But I

611
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 4: mean women with their numbers on billboards. I was like,

612
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 4: so you want anybody to call you, You're not gonna

613
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 4: stay like hey, you exactly, like you just don't have

614
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,439
Speaker 4: anybody taking number, so we would, you know. Obviously he

615
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 4: had all of that, but still, like, we never.

616
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,720
Speaker 2: Went through anything crazy. There was no you know.

617
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,200
Speaker 4: And I think the toughest challenges for us came after

618
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:05,160
Speaker 4: we became parents.

619
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 2: You know.

620
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 4: We really struggled with going from two to three. And

621
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:11,320
Speaker 4: I think at that time in our marriage, a lot

622
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:12,920
Speaker 4: of things were happening. At the same time, we both

623
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,160
Speaker 4: were retiring from sports, which was really difficult. That it's

624
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,400
Speaker 4: really difficult, and then we I got pregnant right away,

625
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,360
Speaker 4: we had a kid who were living in the same

626
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 4: house full time for the first time because when we

627
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 4: were competing, I'd be gone for a month, you know,

628
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,639
Speaker 4: And it's a different dynamic when you're not always with

629
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 4: each other than when you're like every day in the

630
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,160
Speaker 4: same house, you know. So those were probably the biggest

631
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,920
Speaker 4: challenges that we faced in our relationship was becoming parents.

632
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,160
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, we figured that out navigating through

633
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:37,920
Speaker 4: that now and I feel ready for baby number two.

634
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,119
Speaker 4: But yeah, we didn't have a lot of issues in

635
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 4: the early stage.

636
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:44,160
Speaker 3: It was this blissful Can you see yourself doing another

637
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 3: show with your family?

638
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:47,440
Speaker 1: Is that something you would want to do?

639
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 3: You know, you're on this, but would you want to

640
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:51,680
Speaker 3: maybe go back to that also now that you're having

641
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 3: another edition.

642
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean i'd be open to that with Bravo,

643
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:56,159
Speaker 4: you know, if they'd want to do something like that.

644
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 4: I actually so like at the reunion, we have like

645
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,880
Speaker 4: these packages, right shows, each of our stories like kind

646
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 4: of like carved out of the show, and I was like, man,

647
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 4: this is such a great season, Like to see the

648
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,360
Speaker 4: story arc of my family being with me, and then

649
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 4: you know, the idea of them moving out, and then

650
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 4: some of the stuff I had with the girls, and

651
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,680
Speaker 4: then now and then the loss of the baby, which

652
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:17,880
Speaker 4: is on the show, you know, and then to now

653
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 4: where we are. I do think it's such a beautiful story,

654
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 4: and so yeah, I would be open to it, but

655
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:23,959
Speaker 4: you know only with Bravo.

656
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 1: All right, go ahead and pitch that you did it before,

657
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:28,200
Speaker 1: you know.

658
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 4: Now I think now is the time.

659
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Thank you well a Sonya, thank

660
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:33,160
Speaker 3: you so much for coming bout.

661
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 1: I do really appreciate it.

662
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 3: I've been wanted to have you on the show, even

663
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,399
Speaker 3: when you guys had your own reality show. I was

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Speaker 3: trying to make that happen when I was on the

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Speaker 3: Breakfast Club. But I'm glad we made this happen.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for having me. You're doing such a great job.

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Speaker 2: Oh thank you serious.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's really great to have you as a woman

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Speaker 4: who I think you just have your finger on the pulse.

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Speaker 4: You understand issues that we care about. You talk to

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Speaker 4: people that we care about hearing from. So just keep

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Speaker 4: going you way up, but you're gonna keep going way, way,

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Speaker 4: way way up.

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Speaker 2: She's good like you, And yeah, this was a treat.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for having back, and congratulations to you. I cannot

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Speaker 3: wait to watch this whole journey when she's born.

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Speaker 4: When she's born, we're gonna keep saying she till she

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Speaker 4: comes to wait for ye

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Speaker 3: Wall