1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:02,400 Speaker 1: The Action Network Podcast. 2 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 2: What's Up? Everybody? Welcome to the Action Network Podcast. I 3 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 2: am your host, Evan Abrams, and I am joined by, 4 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 2: as always, by Action Network NFL expert Chris Raybond. We're 5 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 2: going to give out more draft grades today, but as 6 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 2: we did last episode, we're doing it a little bit differently, 7 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 2: a little bit of categories, some sections. I'll go over 8 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 2: them in a second, but first we're gonna do the NFC. 9 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:32,160 Speaker 2: We did the AFC last time, so that episode is up. 10 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 2: Check it out, and we have we go through every team, 11 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 2: all the categories, some fun stuff. But Raybond, what the 12 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 2: heck is going on? Man? How are you? 13 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 3: What's up? 14 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: Evan? Yeah, we're here for our NFC episode. The AFC 15 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: one was fun. I think the AFC, you know, just 16 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: because of all the quarterback drama, had a little with 17 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: a little more kind of attention grabbing. 18 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 3: But I thought the NFC had some under. 19 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: The radar, really good draft and some some big surprises. 20 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 3: So can't wait to talk about it. 21 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. The only thing I noticed when just literally going 22 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 2: through everything is if you look at the running backs 23 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 2: that were taking genty at six to the Raiders twenty two, 24 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 2: Hampton to the Chargers. Then you went Jenkins, Henderson, Harvey, 25 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 2: Caleb Johnson. If you notice anything, I don't, The first 26 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 2: NFC team to take a running back was Skataboo in 27 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 2: the fourth round for the Giant. So like the first 28 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 2: seven picks, running backs all went to the AFC. Something 29 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 2: I just noticed while going through it, but that is 30 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 2: exactly the randomness and fun we are going to go 31 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,320 Speaker 2: through today. So we are going to do a bunch 32 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 2: of categories here. So the first is most impactful picks 33 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 2: in the draft. Then we're going to talk about the 34 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 2: picks that surprised you the most, then some big misses, 35 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 2: and we're going to end with message in a Bottle, 36 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 2: which is basically a little bit of prediction on the future. So, 37 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 2: like last time, Raybaud, NFC most impactful Picks started off, 38 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 2: So I'm going to go with. 39 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: One that's I think it's being criticized by some and 40 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: it's Atlanta. You know, in the first round I actually 41 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: liked them getting and you know these dual players that 42 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: they can slot in at the front seven. We know 43 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: they needed a pass rush in like forever, So they 44 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: get Jayalen Walker out of Georgia at the fifteenth pick 45 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: of the first round and then they get James Pearce 46 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: Junior at the twenty six. Now they do trade back 47 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 1: up to get him out of Tennessee, but you know, 48 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: these are two I think potentially high impact players that 49 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: could make an impact right away. And you know, Atlanta 50 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: is a team that feels like it has its quarterback 51 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: of the future. They've spent a ton of high draft 52 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 1: capital at the skilled positions over the past four years, 53 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: and the line has been solid on offense, but it's 54 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: really been about in the defensive trenches. You know, this 55 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: is kind of this is kind of a reset here 56 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: with you know, Grady Jarrett, a long time anchor for them, 57 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: you know, kind of moving on, and they really just 58 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:56,399 Speaker 1: needed impact players up front and in what I think 59 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: can could be a wide open division. So I actually 60 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 1: think that and it could and it could you know, 61 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: kind of backfire on them as well. But that's why 62 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: I think this round one hole for Atlanta is going 63 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: to be very impactful one way or another. 64 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 2: Again, just like the AFC, my team at the top 65 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 2: was the Falcons too, so we did kind of have 66 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 2: the same read here and it's really surprising they only 67 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 2: had five picks and I feel like with those five 68 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 2: picks at least definitely in the top three for me 69 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 2: and probably top four, they really had impact, right, Like, 70 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 2: so Walker, Pierce, and Watts are all going to start, 71 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 2: I like all three of those picks, and even Bowman 72 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 2: probably be maybe back up to Alford, maybe maybe he 73 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 2: gets into the mix. He's out there a bunch depending 74 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 2: on how it goes. But I really listen, I think 75 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 2: from the outside looking in, Atlanta had done everything from 76 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 2: a skill position point of view, That's the direction they 77 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 2: had been, you know, draft after draft, so you know, 78 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 2: from from Pitts to Robinson, like all all from London, like, 79 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 2: that was the direction they had. So I think everyone 80 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 2: was assuming this was going to be a defensive draft. 81 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 2: Would have been fun to be able to maybe try 82 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 2: to uh gamble on how many defensive players they were 83 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 2: going to take, because I think we were all assuming 84 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 2: this is the direction, and I think it worked. So 85 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 2: I'm really excited to see how these guys kind of 86 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 2: meshed together, and I think they're more of a complete 87 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 2: team than they were. 88 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, you have you know, you have Baits at safety, already, 89 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: have Turell at corner, so you have some some pieces 90 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 1: that you're kind of building around uh at really each level, 91 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 1: and so yeah, this this we've been wait, like every 92 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 1: year they kind of make some moves in the offseason, 93 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: and you know, is this is this gonna turn around 94 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 1: the defense? And it very well may not, but I 95 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 1: thought getting aggressive to to toward that end, especially after 96 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 1: you know, again four straight years, was it of of 97 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: skill guys in the top ten. Yeah, I can't knock 98 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: it in. You know, if they if they whiffed on it, 99 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 1: it's gonna hurt as well. So I think one way 100 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 1: or another, this is gonna this is gonna be a 101 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: very impactful draft for Atlanta because once once they traded 102 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: back into the first round, definitely kind of cemented it. 103 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 2: But it was the right direction. I think they needed 104 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 2: to do this. So I'm happy to see it and 105 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 2: let's see how it goes, all, right, Team number two, 106 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 2: what do you got other Bears? 107 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: I think they're Round one and two a skill position Hall. 108 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: You get two guys who should contribute right away in 109 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:18,239 Speaker 1: tight end coast in Loveland at the tenth overall pick 110 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 1: other draft in the first round out of Michigan, and 111 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: then you go with Luther Burden the third out of 112 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: Missou early in the second round, a really explosive, kind 113 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 1: of fun prospect who was really jumping up some people's boards, 114 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: and some people are really high on him and think 115 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 1: he was even underrated and could have even been a 116 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: first round prospect. So I think with Ben Johnson, with 117 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: Caleb Williams there, and you know, you already got some 118 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: veterans that are going to kind of make this transition 119 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: a little easier for guys like well Win and Burden. 120 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 3: You got Cocovette there, you got. 121 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 1: DJ Moore there, you got o'doonsay, a top ten prospect, 122 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 1: that wide receiver from last year, and you rebuilt that 123 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 1: offensive line. So I think that you put these guys 124 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 1: in a good spot where that it's not too much pressure, 125 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: but at the same time, they're talented enough that they 126 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: could be major contributors right away. I mean, there's a 127 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: chance that a guy like Burden could be better than odoonsday. 128 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 3: There's a chance that. 129 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 1: There's a good chance that loved One is going to 130 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 1: be a more impactful path catcher than. 131 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 3: Pocavett right off the bat. So yeah, really, I really. 132 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: Think Chicago being able to go out and address the 133 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: skilled positions because of what they did at the offensive 134 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 1: line in the offseason really kind of stood out to me. 135 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, especially from like a fantasy point of view. 136 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 2: I mean there's a lot of ways to look at this. 137 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 2: I mean, if you're talking about impactful picks, I mean, 138 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 2: this is hard not to be. And the Bears are 139 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 2: also sending a direct message, which is, let's get Caleb 140 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 2: a little more help, a little more protection. Like the 141 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 2: focus is all there to make his life a little 142 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 2: easier based off what they've seen. And you just went 143 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 2: off with all those different names. I mean they have 144 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 2: a like, you know, there's a lot of skill players 145 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 2: on this now. So I mean Chicago's going to get 146 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 2: a lot of love. I think a lot of people 147 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 2: are going to see what they did in the draft. 148 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:07,919 Speaker 2: And I even like Turner, Like you know, with that 149 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 2: fourth pick there at the defensive tackle position, I think 150 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 2: he's going to be decent. So I even like a 151 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 2: little bit of help on the defensive side. So some 152 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 2: people given a little bit of a middle tier grades 153 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 2: to Chicago, but I like it. So what's your third. 154 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 3: God be the Eagles. 155 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: They get Jad Campbell at Alabama at one point thirty one, 156 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: and listen this is the guy that they're saying some 157 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: people thought he had top ten talent in the draft. 158 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 1: Now it's not a premium position necessarily, but I'm hearing 159 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: they might use they might try to use him a 160 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: little bit like Michael Parsons. 161 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 3: And I just think, you know, how he getting. 162 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: These talented guys from these you know, very established programs 163 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: that just fall into his lap each and every year. 164 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 1: I just got to give him props because I think 165 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: especially for what the Eagles are and you look at 166 00:07:56,440 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: their defense and their roster and that they could you know, 167 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: use a guy like this. I just think, you know, 168 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: there there there was a lot of picks that Philly 169 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: had and there maybe wasn't because of where they're picking 170 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: a chance to you know, make too much impact. You know, 171 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: they're coming off a super Bowl whin they have a 172 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: great roster already, but I think this was one of 173 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: those spots where it could have a major impact. And 174 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: it's just just again another example of great a great 175 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: value who could also be an actual difference maker for 176 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:34,199 Speaker 1: this Eagle team. And then you know they go there 177 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 1: another team they went defense with their first was it 178 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 1: four or five picks? Uh, and you know you had Alabama, Texas, Georgia. 179 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 1: I mean, you're getting guys from very established programs here, 180 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: so it's not it might not jump off the page, 181 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: and maybe the positions, you know, don't jump off the 182 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,839 Speaker 1: page necessarily from for what the Eagles did. 183 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 3: But number one gotta give some of the benefit of 184 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 3: the doubt to Howie. 185 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: But number two, I just think getting Campbell, who was 186 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: sliding a little bit, was just a perfect way to 187 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: kind of, you know, jumpstart this draft class after coming 188 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 1: off a Super Bowl win. 189 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:15,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm shaking my head because it's just every year, 190 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 2: and especially like Alabama, this guy was sliding and you 191 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 2: knew was happening, and then they trade up one slot 192 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 2: and you're like, oh, this is this. We know what's 193 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 2: happening here. I guess the only thing I would say 194 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 2: is three linebackers, Campbell, London, and Powell Ryland. And I 195 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 2: like Powell Ryland a lot, but I think it makes 196 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 2: sense with Dean Heard a little bit. They are seeing 197 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 2: a need and trying to fill it, and I think 198 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 2: Campbell's gonna help a lot there. I like their draft 199 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:40,439 Speaker 2: and I think Philly does it again. So I mean, 200 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 2: especially at this point, like you're at the top, you 201 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 2: just won the Super Bowl, you didn't lose a ton. 202 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 2: It's time to just add where you don't have, and 203 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 2: I think they did a good job of that. So 204 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 2: all right, those are your three. Let me just roll through. 205 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 2: So at least in the NFC, I have more good 206 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 2: than I have bad. I seem to just like a 207 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,679 Speaker 2: lot of things in the NFC. So this one was 208 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 2: a little bit top heavy for me. But I kind 209 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 2: of just liked Seattle in general. Like I like Zabel, 210 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 2: I like Emon Worri. I think back to back one 211 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 2: two really really helpful on both sides of the ball. 212 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 2: So I mean, aside from that, I can criticize maybe 213 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 2: one or two things, but at the top, really just 214 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 2: love what Seattle did athletes everywhere. 215 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: I like the mill down pick as well, you know 216 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: you got yeah, maybe using like Taysom Hill or something 217 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: like that. 218 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 2: I mean, I just think at that point quarterbacks, I 219 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 2: mean it was interesting. I think Shador kind of took 220 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 2: everything over, and I think you need to take a 221 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 2: step back and kind of see some of these slots 222 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 2: that the other quarterbacks went. So I agree Milrose interesting. 223 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 2: All right, the Rams they had no first round picks 224 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 2: in six pick got probably four to five second stringers, 225 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 2: made them deeper all over the place. I think given 226 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 2: the picks they had, I think they did a good job. 227 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 2: I like Ferguson at tight end. I think he could 228 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 2: start possibly next to Higbee or I think he could 229 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 2: probably be the future there for them, potentially Stuart and 230 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 2: Chris Paul Junior at linebackers. I thought was also a 231 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 2: good move for them. I just think based off of 232 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 2: what they had, they did a good job. Carolina and McMillan, 233 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 2: I mean I was a McMillan fan for a while. 234 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 2: We've talked about, you know, some of the plus odds 235 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 2: him to go top ten. I just think, you know, 236 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 2: the negatives on him did an out wide way. The 237 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 2: skill set and the measurables and the things he could 238 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 2: possibly make Bryce Young's life just easier overall, I mean, 239 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 2: next to le Guette, Cocher more. Now they've got theeling, 240 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 2: they've got just like I think they started. Then they 241 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 2: just bring in Renfro. They have just they have a 242 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 2: ton of different options that they're just giving Carolina and 243 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 2: Bryce Young to try to see what works. But I 244 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 2: think McMillan is right at the top. So I love 245 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 2: the pick myself. I have two more here Minnesota. I'm 246 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 2: a fan of Donovan Jackson. I think I think it's 247 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 2: a good pick at a good slot. You know. I 248 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:56,679 Speaker 2: think it's a need for the team. I think he's 249 00:11:56,679 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 2: going to do well protecting JJ and I just think 250 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 2: it's an impactful pick that will mean something to Minnesota. 251 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 2: So to me, that's on my list. I think it's 252 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 2: worth it. I would be curious what you think about that, 253 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 2: because I think people have a little bit of both 254 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 2: sides there. But next to Darris on the left side, 255 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 2: I think it's gonna help and ty Felton, I thought 256 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 2: I can't get a I can't get a good picture there. 257 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:21,199 Speaker 2: I mean I keep looking at the pick, looking at 258 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 2: some of the measurables and this and that, like it 259 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 2: kind of is what it is. They're a little crowded 260 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 2: in that room. But to me, Jackson's the interesting one. 261 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,719 Speaker 1: Any thought of Minnesota, Yeah, I think they got to 262 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:32,599 Speaker 1: kind of got criticized just because you know of the 263 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 1: lack of picks more than you know sure the players themselves, 264 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 1: but you know it's I don't have a problem with 265 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:44,079 Speaker 1: any of their picks. I think they've kind of gained 266 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 1: some of the benefit of the doubt just to you know, 267 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 1: they they they're a really smart team, well well coached team. 268 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:52,199 Speaker 3: So I think whoever does go there, you know, even probably. 269 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: Some of the late rounders, you know, one of those 270 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: guys could hit even more than we think, you. 271 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 3: Know, they got. 272 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: They got a couple of guys in round six, Ibacker 273 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 1: and tight End that that maybe you know, could be 274 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: better that we thought. You got Dawkins on the edge 275 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 1: in the beginning around five out of Georgia. So I overall, 276 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: they just didn't have them any picks. I think that's 277 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: why they're getting criticized. We'll talk more about Carolina and 278 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 1: UH and the Rams, because I do I do have 279 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:20,079 Speaker 1: some alternate thoughts to those to those guys, But as 280 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: far as Minnesota goes, yeah, I just think it's hard 281 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: to fully, you know, come down too hard with them 282 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 1: either way, because. 283 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 3: You know, they they really don't. 284 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: They only have that that that one pick late in 285 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: the first and then not another pick until the third, 286 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: and then nothing in the fourth either. 287 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 3: So just not a lot to go off. 288 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 2: And my last team, another team with just five picks 289 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:43,719 Speaker 2: was Washington. Did I just didn't. I don't think their 290 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 2: picks really fit a category for me, so I kind 291 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 2: of just tossed them here biggest impactful at the end 292 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 2: because I like Conner Lee and I like Amos. I 293 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 2: kind of wanted Amos to go first round. We had 294 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 2: talked about that on the Draft Bets pod. But I 295 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 2: think they both are good and fit needs for Washington. 296 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 2: So I think in terms of having an impact, you know, 297 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 2: I think it makes sense. But again, just five picks 298 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 2: from Washington, so a little bit of a difficult thing 299 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 2: to assess. I think the only thing as well has 300 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 2: cost me, uh tearing is ACL in the playoff game 301 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:12,839 Speaker 2: against the Lions, so we have to see based off 302 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 2: of that, which is why I mean, I'm sure they're 303 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 2: gonna be They were looking offensive line as well, but 304 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 2: I'll let you roll to pick surprise unless you have 305 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 2: anything on Washington. 306 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: Now I thought Washington, I mean it's you know, they 307 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: don't have many picks. They clearly drafted for needs, so 308 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: it just puts a lot of pressure on them to hit. 309 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 1: I think I think Connery and Amos were good picks, 310 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: and we'll see about the rest, you know, in terms 311 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: of the value, but there is there is a little 312 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 1: bit more pressure maybe than we thought it was gonna 313 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: be on Washington the hit early on, even though it 314 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: seemed kind of like, uh, you know, they had some 315 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: they had some different some options. 316 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 3: But I do like, I do. 317 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: Like overall that that you know, you went offensive line 318 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: and cornerback with your first two picks. I think those 319 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 1: if I was going to pick the positions, I think 320 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 1: those two would have been the ones, uh. 321 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 3: That I would have picked for them to address cool 322 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 3: uh all. 323 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: Right, surprising picks. I mean I have to start with 324 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: uh Tyra Shuck out of Louisville Movieville going to the 325 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: Saints early second round, went over some uh other quarterback 326 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: prospects that you know, people thought were going to go 327 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: ahead of him. You know, it was an interesting pick 328 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: too because we already you know, your first round pick, 329 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: you kind of paid the offensive line tax a little bit, 330 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: going banks higher than I think up until you know, 331 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: the day of the draft, I don't think anyone had 332 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: Banks going to high. So it was just interesting, you know, 333 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: to take such a big risk again. And then they're saying, 334 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 1: like Car is not really influencing this, but it's okay, 335 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: Well you have Car, you have Ratler, even you still 336 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: have hater on the roster, so like, if this is 337 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: a whiff, this ross has a lot of holes, and 338 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: you already kind of drafted for need in the first round. 339 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 3: So it was just it was just surprising to me 340 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 3: that that they went uh. 341 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: That direction with the quarterback, that they did any thoughts 342 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: on unshuck in the Saints and just their draft strategy 343 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: in general. 344 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 2: Top of my list, he was number one in terms 345 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 2: of how I was just questionable. I mean we were again, 346 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 2: it was just we were all caught in the Shador 347 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 2: whirlwind the tornado. But I think when this one went 348 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 2: off the board, we said to ourselves, oh boy, what's 349 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 2: going to happen with Shador? And then everyone was like, 350 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 2: oh wait, this is actually also just a questionable pick overall. 351 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 2: So I agree that is a little bit odd. I 352 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 2: wasn't a fan of his from the start. I think 353 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 2: listen at pick forty, I think it was a tad 354 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 2: early for him. I think it was probably best to 355 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 2: go a little bit late, a little bit later, but 356 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 2: they saw something they liked and I think they had 357 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 2: to take a quarterback. It's the same thing as Denver, right, 358 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 2: we pegged Denver at twenty to take a running back. 359 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 2: They decided they didn't want him at twenty and then 360 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 2: they found another running back. Everyone said, oh, they have 361 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 2: to take Shador at nine. Well, we were sort of right, 362 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 2: like they didn't need a quarterback. They just liked somebody 363 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 2: else and waited a little bit and got Banks with him. So, 364 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 2: you know, I think we just have to wait and see. 365 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 2: But he's at the top of my list just based 366 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 2: off of the measurables, let's call it. 367 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, and in another team, Uh that I was pretty 368 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: surprised and not necessarily a bad thing, but Green Bay 369 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: going with two wideouts and their first three picks after 370 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 1: you know, they really haven't done that now, you know, 371 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 1: I think the thing that was more surprising Number one, 372 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:25,400 Speaker 1: I didn't expect Golden to fall that far. 373 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 3: Can't knock the pick. Uh yeah, you like man, Yeah, 374 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 3: I liked him early. 375 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: And then they goes staveing on Williams out of TCU 376 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 1: in round three at wide receiver. In between they get 377 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 1: belt Belton out of NC State. 378 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 3: So you know, for Green Bay. 379 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: It's just did they It does kind of create the 380 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 1: question mark though, Yeah, you supposedly had four wide receivers 381 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 1: you liked already on the roster and Jayden Reed, Dan 382 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:59,640 Speaker 1: Tavian Wix, Romeo Dobbs, and Watson. 383 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 3: I know is probably gonna miss the year, so maybe 384 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 3: that factored in. 385 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: But I'm just curious as to what the what the 386 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 1: plan is here, is their trade coming or what you know, 387 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 1: because you did spend for a team that's kind of 388 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 1: in that second tier in terms of contenders, really trying 389 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:19,879 Speaker 1: to make that jump into the elite contender list of 390 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: the the NFC. Uh, and maybe, you know, maybe they 391 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,439 Speaker 1: feel like they're already there, but it just it was 392 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: interesting to just go with the position that you felt like, 393 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: maybe you didn't have any stars, but you definitely had 394 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,120 Speaker 1: some depth at that position, and you had a quarterback 395 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 1: you felt good about. So you know, curious as to how, 396 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 1: you know, going with two wide receivers in on the 397 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 1: first two days of the draft works out for them, 398 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, it was just it was just 399 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 1: a surprising. It was surprising, especially for them to kind 400 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: of double up with Williams, but it was also surprising 401 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:54,640 Speaker 1: for Golden to fall that far. So just just kind 402 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 1: of I think the jury's out on Green Bay. I 403 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 1: don't know if I feel like they necessarily made a 404 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: jump based on this draft, but they were also in 405 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:06,679 Speaker 1: a position where they were sout all the way around 406 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 1: and could kind of go with who they felt was 407 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,399 Speaker 1: at the top of their board each pick, so this 408 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 1: could also be looked back on it as a very 409 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: good draft quest I'm kind of just torn here with 410 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 1: the Packers, any thoughts. 411 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 2: I was considering. I mean, they are number two on 412 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 2: my list here too. I considered making them a big miss. 413 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 2: I decided not to. I think it's just ironic at 414 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:30,120 Speaker 2: this point, like we waited two decades for Green Bay 415 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:32,199 Speaker 2: to do this and then they do it when we 416 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:35,120 Speaker 2: feel like they probably shouldn't. And did they have depth 417 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 2: at the position? I think Watson was the key one 418 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 2: you mentioned, like did they do this because he's gone 419 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 2: and they felt like they, you know, with Dobbs and 420 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 2: Read and Wix, they needed someone else. Did they see 421 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 2: Kansas City take someone really fast and it went well 422 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 2: and they were like, well, we need to do this. 423 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 2: Like I just it's just a little odd on the 424 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 2: Golden pick. And I also have to say he could 425 00:19:58,200 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 2: have gone a lot earlier. So it's like, I'm not 426 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 2: even like debating the draft position because this is where 427 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:06,400 Speaker 2: he was slated to go. I think I'm just debating 428 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:08,439 Speaker 2: using the capital from green Bay's point of view on 429 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 2: the pick in general, and then I think if you 430 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 2: roll back a little bit, I think this Avion Williams 431 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 2: pick is eh. Like it probably would have been a 432 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 2: miss for me. I don't love the selection. Maybe I'm wrong, 433 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 2: but I just don't see it at that position, especially 434 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 2: when again Green Bay's in a luxury spot like they're 435 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 2: a little eaglesy, like they've got a bunch of stuff 436 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 2: they should be trying to get. I think more depth 437 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:34,120 Speaker 2: and better players at different positions in that. Maybe that's 438 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 2: just me. I'm agreeing with you, Like it's a questionable 439 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:37,640 Speaker 2: draft for green Bay. 440 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: For me, it could work out really well though, because 441 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:41,719 Speaker 1: things like the Jordan Love pick didn't looked great at 442 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: the time, you know what I mean. 443 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 3: So I'm not going to completely write it off. And 444 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:45,919 Speaker 3: I do like Golden. 445 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:47,640 Speaker 1: But the way they kind of use some of the 446 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 1: that like the early round capital with two guys at 447 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: wide receiver to go a bunch of different ways for 448 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: a team, that's like right there. 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I can't wait to 490 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,919 Speaker 2: start seeing your stuff and start tailing all your crap. 491 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 2: All right, two more people for me on this list, 492 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 2: and I'm gonna go through this one very quickly because 493 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 2: you're gonna hit on him again in a second. A 494 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 2: mecha Buka I just think is a surprising pick on 495 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 2: a few levels. I mean, when you look into it 496 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 2: a little bit more, when you look at the contracts, 497 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:30,199 Speaker 2: you look at you know, some of those things that 498 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 2: you know maybe one year, two year, mentor and then 499 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 2: Evans or God wins somewhere else, like it's all possible. 500 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 2: It just felt like, again kind of like Green Bay, 501 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 2: it was like you could have used this pick on 502 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,679 Speaker 2: something else. I think you're gonna have more of an 503 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:45,400 Speaker 2: opinion on this in a second, so I'm gonna leave 504 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 2: it there. And then my last one. I mean, it's 505 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:51,919 Speaker 2: a surprise just based off of I guess, the prospect 506 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 2: itself and how much he slid. But I thought Will 507 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,679 Speaker 2: Johnson was a little bit of a surprise, Like we 508 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 2: had been talking about him as the number one corner. 509 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 2: I think a few days before the draft we started 510 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,879 Speaker 2: to realize his slip and we saw Baron kind of 511 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,439 Speaker 2: moving up boards and we assumed that he might go 512 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:11,159 Speaker 2: second at that point. But at forty seven, I think 513 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 2: it's just surprising. I think it could be a really 514 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 2: good pick for Arizona. So I would be closer to 515 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 2: put him on Impactful than I would on Big Miss. 516 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 2: But to me, he fits the surprising category. Any thoughts 517 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 2: on both of those? 518 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it was just how far he slid 519 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 1: was a little bit surprising, just because of where he 520 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:37,360 Speaker 1: was for the majority of the offseason as that cornerback one. 521 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: And you know, maybe you saw that late steam on Barrett, 522 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:43,919 Speaker 1: but yeah, he still fell pretty far. But this is 523 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 1: one of those draft classes which could be very I 524 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 1: guess impactful. He hits because this is this is another 525 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,160 Speaker 1: one of these teams that went defense with their first 526 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:54,199 Speaker 1: five picks. 527 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 3: You know, so. 528 00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:00,479 Speaker 1: They got Kawer, Murray, Harrison was kind of disappointing, but 529 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 1: you feel like the offense should be should be solid. 530 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 1: You didn't add any you didn't add any more weapons 531 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 1: to the offense. You know, so you have some blue 532 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 1: chips guys in McBride. You feel like, you know the 533 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 1: running back situations in good hands. You feel like Harrison 534 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: should come on at wide receiver and Murray should. 535 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 3: You know, maybe that he hasn't. 536 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 1: Played his best football yet, but uh, it's just interesting 537 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 1: to me that, you know, defense, they just went all 538 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 1: in on defense, So this could it can look really 539 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 1: good or it could they could just kind of stay 540 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:31,360 Speaker 1: in their purgatory. 541 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 3: If if they whiff on some of these picks. 542 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: So I think this is another one that will be 543 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: impactful one way or another. It's just you know, the 544 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 1: jury's out whether it be uh, purely positive or it 545 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:42,360 Speaker 1: could be negative as well. 546 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a full package. I kind of like what 547 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 2: Arizona did. I like with three of the four NFC 548 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 2: West teams did. And that's a tease for a little 549 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,440 Speaker 2: bit later, Big missus, So what do you got here? 550 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 2: Roll off some teams. 551 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 1: So I didn't like the Carolina draft. I didn't like 552 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 1: and again I did with Tech McMillan. I think it's 553 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,919 Speaker 1: more so that obviously there were the questions about you know, 554 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 1: you know, some like his dedication and this and that. 555 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 1: But I don't know if we're just still at a 556 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 1: point in in the NFL where we need to be 557 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 1: taking wide receiver prospects like him at at the spot 558 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 1: that Carolina did. And I do know that Carolina tried 559 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: really hard to trade out of that number eight pick, 560 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 1: to the point where they were they were offering, reportedly 561 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 1: offering discounts, you know, to get out of number eight, 562 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: probably because I think McMillan may have been available a 563 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:38,360 Speaker 1: little bit later than we thought, especially if Tampa Bay 564 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 1: had a BUKA higher than everyone else on the board. 565 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: And I mean, you know, if Dallas stayed the wide 566 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 1: receiver too, you know, you never know, it could have 567 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,640 Speaker 1: been McMillan and Golden on the board for Green Bay 568 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:51,919 Speaker 1: wait in the first round. So I just think I 569 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 1: don't think I think they they would have ideally liked 570 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 1: to trade out. I think they would have ideally like 571 00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: to address the defensive side of the ball then, but uh, 572 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 1: they kind of looked at you know, they kind of 573 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: looked at the board and said, Okay, well if we're 574 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:10,159 Speaker 1: staying here. You know, based on if it was that 575 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 1: hard to trade out of, I guess that that eighth 576 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,959 Speaker 1: pick they were figuring, all right, we're probably gonna this 577 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,120 Speaker 1: is this is kind of what we're gonna do here, 578 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,159 Speaker 1: And they kind of put the trying to fill a 579 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,640 Speaker 1: need out of But it's like another thing I have 580 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:28,159 Speaker 1: an issue I have with the pick is Carolina is 581 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:32,160 Speaker 1: one of those teams that they don't really have that 582 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 1: that guy that keeps you up at night if you're 583 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: a defensive coordinator, right, Like, they have a bunch of 584 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 1: solid guys all like you know, Tuba Hubbard and uh, 585 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 1: you know that that receiving core even before you know 586 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 1: you had to get and you had Cocher came on. 587 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 1: But I thought they could have actually used more of 588 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,639 Speaker 1: an Abuka or a Matthew Golder type of type of player, like, 589 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 1: you know, just some somebody that's a little bit more 590 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 1: explosive versus I know what you're going for. Yeah, I 591 00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,239 Speaker 1: know what they're going for, you know, wide receiver, one 592 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,160 Speaker 1: guy who's gonna catch, who could test the passes, and 593 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 1: it could just be fine. But I just think at this, 594 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 1: at that draft capital bal excuse me, at that draft 595 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 1: capital capital, and with knowing that they wanted to trade out, 596 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 1: knowing that they really had a need on the edge, 597 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,400 Speaker 1: and there were edge rushers available there, high end edge rushers, 598 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:20,919 Speaker 1: and then they end up going and taking you know, 599 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: edge rushers. You know, they double up in round day two, 600 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 1: and you just wonder, do they kind of feel like 601 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 1: their hand was forced a little bit because of what 602 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 1: they did here? So I just think it could all 603 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 1: work out in the end, But I would have just 604 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 1: based on the type of player, based on where we went, 605 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 1: based on what we know about what they were trying 606 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 1: to do with the pick and based on their needs 607 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 1: that that draft class was a miss for me. 608 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 3: For Carolina, I. 609 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 2: Think all you're saying is, I think all you're saying 610 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 2: is is that you would prefer them to do like 611 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 2: mikeel Williams and Luther Burden versus like like do it 612 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:01,959 Speaker 2: a little bit different, right, right, like get the position 613 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 2: somewhere else. All right? Talk about Abuka because I think 614 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 2: this one's fascinating. 615 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, so listen. 616 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 1: I like the player, but I still have to grade 617 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 1: this as a miss for Tampa Bay because I think, 618 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 1: you know, just given their offensive infrastructure and what they've 619 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 1: shown over the past couple of years, you know, coaches 620 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 1: moving on and it keeps rugging. I think they could 621 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 1: have also afforded to weight on wide receiver, picked up 622 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: one of those higher upside prospects on Day two or 623 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 1: three and he would have kind of flipped right in. 624 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 1: But instead they go and Abuka. Also, let's not forget 625 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 1: at nineteen, he was probably a reach compared to most 626 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: teams draft boards as well, and most draft boards that 627 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 1: we saw had him going at the highest in the 628 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 1: In the early to mid twenties, I don't think wide 629 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 1: receiver was a major need, and I know this team is. 630 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 1: You know, they had an amazing offense last year, but 631 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 1: I just thought, you know, given how well their offense 632 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 1: played and already and what they've had in position in 633 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 1: the depth of the draft at running back and receiver 634 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 1: later on, they could have just addressed the skill positions 635 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 1: a little bit later and gone with a guy like 636 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 1: like they could have used a guy like Jude Barron 637 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 1: at corner they I think they ended up going up 638 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 1: a corner later on. They could have even a guy 639 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 1: like Harmon like you know got they were just I 640 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 1: think impact players on defense that they passed up one 641 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 1: because they really liked this wide receiver. And it's not 642 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 1: a knock on the wide receiver, but just based on 643 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 1: you know, where he went, based on team need, based 644 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 1: on who they passed up, and then based on how 645 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 1: they kind of addressed the draft later on, where it 646 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 1: looks like then they drafted really strongly for need down 647 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 1: the line, I would have I don't. I don't like 648 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 1: how they started it off going with the BOOKA at nineteen. 649 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think it's the same discussion they take cornerback 650 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 2: with Morrison and Parrish after Abuka, and then the question 651 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,239 Speaker 2: you have is all right, at nineteen, Abuka goes, then 652 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 2: Baron goes at twenty, and Harmon at twenty one. So 653 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 2: it was just like, you know, could you have taken 654 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 2: one of those two guys and then found a burden 655 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 2: or something like that. It's the same question as we 656 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 2: just had with Carolina. It's just you decided to take 657 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 2: this player and then you win another direction. I don't 658 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 2: mind Morrison in Parish, like, I think both of them 659 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 2: will be just fine at their positions, and they were 660 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 2: rated fine as well. Like, I don't hurt the picks. 661 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 2: It's just it's a preference draft and I think we've 662 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 2: been talking about that for weeks. Okay, who is your 663 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 2: third slot here? 664 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, so again I think we disagree with on this. 665 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 1: I just wasn't overly impressed with the Rams. I know that, 666 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 1: you know, they felt like they got a really good 667 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 1: offer to get come out of the first round, and 668 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 1: then you know they go with Titan Terrence Ferguson out 669 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 1: of Oregon with their first pick of the draft in 670 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 1: the middle of round two. So listen for a team 671 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 1: like the Rams that you're on kind of a you're 672 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 1: in muscling mode, but you're definitely you're definitely not in 673 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: that top tier of contenders. I just thought that maybe 674 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 1: they didn't come away with enough, and you pointed out 675 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,479 Speaker 1: that they did take some good prospects, you know, on 676 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 1: Day three. But again you're putting a lot of pressure 677 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 1: and they've they've hit in the pass on some of 678 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 1: these guys, so you do give them some of the 679 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt here. I won't argue with that, 680 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 1: but I do think that for a team that's trying 681 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 1: to contend right now that still has consistently found themselves 682 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 1: like a tier below that top tier ever since that 683 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 1: Super Bowl win a couple of years ago, you know, 684 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 1: to start out tight end and running back with two 685 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 1: of their top three picks, no round one pick, it 686 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 1: just puts a lot of pressure on the on the 687 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 1: other guys you drafted to be really good. 688 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 3: So I just I think I think there's more downside 689 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 3: than maybe METI with with the Rams draft class. 690 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's a role player draft for them, 691 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 2: And I think you can knock that all you want, 692 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 2: because I guess you're right, like there's you know, pretty close. 693 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 2: They were close last year and they should be trying 694 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 2: to draft more impactful players. But the Rams always seem 695 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 2: to make these types of decisions, so it's like I 696 00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 2: can't even really get in the way of what they're doing. Okay, 697 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 2: so let me go through a few of my misses. 698 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 2: I just I mean, we said this on our recap 699 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 2: and I'm gonna say it again, But like Tyler, Booker, 700 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 2: just feels a tad early for them, especially when we 701 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 2: have been talking I'm talking about the Cowboys. I just 702 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 2: feel like there was another option there. Maybe it was Golden, 703 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 2: maybe it was I wanted a skill player on that 704 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 2: team versus you know, obviously, retirements, you know, free agency, 705 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 2: like all certain things made them probably think they needed 706 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 2: the position and they did. I just he was valued 707 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 2: in like the twenties, twenty mid twenties. I just felt 708 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 2: like it was a tad early for him. So that's 709 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 2: number one. I kind of feel like the forty nine 710 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 2: Ers draft after Williams is questionable. So like I like 711 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 2: the Williams pick. I understand it playing on that line 712 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 2: and listen, they got eleven draft picks, so there is 713 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 2: plenty of chances for them to hit on someone. But 714 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 2: I just think like Stout was a little bit of 715 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 2: a reach. I don't love Collins, so like, I don't 716 00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 2: love the Niners draft after that, but they have plenty 717 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 2: of players to prove me wrong going forward. I have 718 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 2: won more. But any thoughts on those two. 719 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I thought I was gonna hate dallas 720 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 1: Is a lot more than I did. 721 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 2: I think they I just think he's a reach, Like 722 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 2: I just I didn't. You know, sometimes you go, you know, 723 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,960 Speaker 2: the fan base wants the skill player, they pick up 724 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,840 Speaker 2: someone else, the fan base is upset, but in reality, 725 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 2: the position that they picked up was a good pick, right, 726 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:26,879 Speaker 2: Like it helps this, It helps that. I just don't 727 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:28,879 Speaker 2: know if I feel that way about Booker, but maybe 728 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 2: I'm wrong. 729 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 1: I mean, when you consider it, so I think in retrospect, 730 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 1: like looking at the whole board, if you like, if 731 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 1: you knew that Zabel was going to go eighteenth and 732 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 1: then Jackson twenty fourth, you know, I think they might have. 733 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 1: They probably just properly valued Booker. I think I think, 734 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 1: look at it, he was kind of looked at because 735 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 1: you know, Guard is necessarily like a premium pick. 736 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:56,320 Speaker 3: He was a little bit down on people's boards. 737 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 1: But I think in terms of like floor, I think 738 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 1: they got a rock I would pick. 739 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,239 Speaker 3: And then I. 740 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 1: Thought, really the first three players, and Dallas tends to 741 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,880 Speaker 1: do well drafting, like not necessarily going with consensus, but 742 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 1: just going with kind of the best guys on the 743 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 1: board and wedding wedding things kind of. 744 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 3: Play out like. 745 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:17,920 Speaker 1: Draft tends to not be Dallas's issue of they have 746 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 1: issues when it comes to you know, management in person. 747 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 3: But drafts. So I'll give them a little bit of 748 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 3: a benefit of doubt. 749 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 1: And I will say after seeing like Zabel and Jackson 750 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 1: go where they did, it probably looks a little better. 751 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:33,440 Speaker 1: So and then seeing Golden fall for example, well so 752 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 1: uh and even Hampton fell a couple of spots from 753 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 1: where you know teams had Dallas taken him as well. 754 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,279 Speaker 1: So uh yeah, I mean you would like to have 755 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,800 Speaker 1: come out of the draft with more impact. 756 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,359 Speaker 2: Skill guys, and that's what I was looking for. 757 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's and that I think in a draft like 758 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:50,880 Speaker 1: this where there were those even if you did start 759 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 1: the draft the way you did for Dallas, I think 760 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 1: there was there were opportunities still to do that, and 761 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,320 Speaker 1: that's where maybe where you could criticize them, But I'm 762 00:35:59,400 --> 00:35:59,919 Speaker 1: I'm at peace. 763 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 3: Their first first three picks. I think their first three 764 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 3: picks are pretty solid. 765 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I like Azaraku, Revel Blue. I think they're all fine. 766 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,319 Speaker 2: I just I think Booker was a tad really, So 767 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,280 Speaker 2: that's the pick I would scrutinize it. And it was first, 768 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,839 Speaker 2: all right, the last team I'll mention here, And this 769 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,279 Speaker 2: is a little controversial because I mean, they tend to 770 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 2: draft their guys, but Isaac Taslaw is a guy for 771 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 2: Detroit that they traded up for. I believe they traded 772 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,840 Speaker 2: three third round picks to come up. To me, it 773 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 2: was just a little bit early for a position that 774 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,239 Speaker 2: is sort of a need but sort of not. It 775 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 2: felt a little bit odd to me. So that was 776 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,920 Speaker 2: one that I had kind of looked at that I 777 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 2: thought was a little strange, and I've seen some tape. 778 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:46,880 Speaker 2: I went on the measure, I looked at the measurables, 779 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 2: like he's a good receiver. It just felt like an 780 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 2: interesting trade up situation. So that was my last one. 781 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they're kind of a position of power, 782 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 1: you know, they can kind of do this kind of thing, 783 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,440 Speaker 1: and they tend to know offense. 784 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 3: So turned out to too much. 785 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I was thinking. I was like, they're 786 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 2: going to prove me wrong, and he's just going to 787 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,879 Speaker 2: be fantastic. I just felt like, you know, trading up 788 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,279 Speaker 2: in that slot felt a little odd. There were other 789 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 2: receivers I might have preferred at seventy. But that's it. 790 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:18,479 Speaker 2: So those are my big misses. And now let's finish here. 791 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:20,960 Speaker 2: So message in a bottle, And if you weren't in 792 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 2: last episode, it's simple. We are bearing a bottle. We'll 793 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,920 Speaker 2: bring it up in ten years. We have to write 794 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,000 Speaker 2: two names on the bottle. A player who will be 795 00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,279 Speaker 2: good to great and we will consider a good to 796 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,880 Speaker 2: great draft pick, and a player who will be considered 797 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 2: either a bust or someone we overvalued at their draft position. 798 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,640 Speaker 2: Rayba will let you go first hit it. 799 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 3: ABDW. Carter, edge rusher for the New York Giants. 800 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:47,320 Speaker 1: Now, the reason I say at Carter is because cam Ward, 801 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 1: that number one, almost universally wasn't considered the best prospect 802 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 1: in the class. 803 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:55,360 Speaker 3: So he could have been overdrafted. 804 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,799 Speaker 1: Even if he was, it makes sense based on team 805 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 1: need for Tennessee and all that stuff. And then when 806 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:06,680 Speaker 1: you look at what the Jaguars gave up to go 807 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 1: and get Travis Hunter, you know that that could be 808 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,920 Speaker 1: you know, that could kind of skew that a little bit, 809 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,640 Speaker 1: so I think it was why we looked at that. 810 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:21,520 Speaker 1: It was you know, Hunter and Carter along with you know, 811 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 1: maybe Genti were the top three. Maybe you had Graham 812 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:25,839 Speaker 1: in there as the fourth guy, but like those were 813 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,080 Speaker 1: the blue chip prospects in this class. And I think 814 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:31,359 Speaker 1: the Giants or ended up being a team that really 815 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,839 Speaker 1: didn't pay any type of tax. Right, they didn't pay 816 00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:37,680 Speaker 1: the quarterback tax, and they didn't pay the trade up tax, 817 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 1: and they still got a blue chip prospect of three. 818 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:40,879 Speaker 3: They didn't They didn't. 819 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,440 Speaker 1: Make the mistake of you know, people had them taking 820 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 1: Shador here. He ended up lasting to the fifth round. 821 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,000 Speaker 1: So they didn't make a mistake by grabbing a quarterback 822 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,439 Speaker 1: too early. They avoided all these things and they got 823 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 1: one of the few blue chip prospects in this class 824 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,279 Speaker 1: didn't didn't pay any tax. So I think that that 825 00:38:58,320 --> 00:38:59,560 Speaker 1: pick stands out to me. 826 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:02,879 Speaker 2: Okay, I go go to your other one, then I'll 827 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:03,359 Speaker 2: get my two. 828 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:05,240 Speaker 3: Okay. 829 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 1: So for the a guy who will be considered either 830 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,960 Speaker 1: robust or someone way overvalued, I gotta go with McMillan. 831 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,840 Speaker 1: I just think you could have gone a different route. 832 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,239 Speaker 1: I think I don't think this type of player at 833 00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,919 Speaker 1: wide receiver is just valued as much. 834 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:22,879 Speaker 3: I think it's much more. 835 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,080 Speaker 1: It's trending toward that that worthy type of player who 836 00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:29,440 Speaker 1: even if he doesn't have all of the you know, 837 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,799 Speaker 1: the the things you tend to look for in a prospect, 838 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,920 Speaker 1: it's just that speed kind of out outweighs at all. 839 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,160 Speaker 1: And I think for Carolina, a team that didn't really 840 00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:44,719 Speaker 1: have that speed prospect, that guy in the roster, that 841 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:46,279 Speaker 1: that's going to play a ton of snaps for them, 842 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,439 Speaker 1: at least as it looks right now, that that that's 843 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:52,120 Speaker 1: going to keep coordinators up at night. I just think 844 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 1: that they you might look back at, say, McMillan's the 845 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,960 Speaker 1: guy that you could have gotten on day two or 846 00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:57,560 Speaker 1: something like that. 847 00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,840 Speaker 3: So yeah, McMillan for me, if you look. 848 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:02,440 Speaker 2: At the top ten, and I'm just gonna mention this 849 00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,680 Speaker 2: on McMillan, he is probably the easiest one to select. 850 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 2: To say, maybe in ten years he wasn't the best 851 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,759 Speaker 2: pick because I feel like a lot of other people 852 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:14,520 Speaker 2: are at positions that they should have some production, while 853 00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,640 Speaker 2: I think McMillan's is, you know, high upside, but also 854 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,600 Speaker 2: there's a basement there, all right, My players I'll start 855 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 2: with the good. I mean, Campbell is an easy one 856 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,200 Speaker 2: to me to probably say in a bunch of years 857 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:27,680 Speaker 2: he's going to be great for the Eagles, because how 858 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,000 Speaker 2: could he not. The other ones were Im and Moory. 859 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:33,200 Speaker 2: I love that pick for Seattle. I liked Amos for Washington. 860 00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:36,239 Speaker 2: I even liked Revel for Dallas and Watts. I liked 861 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,520 Speaker 2: a lot of the secondaries in the NFC. I thought 862 00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:40,400 Speaker 2: some of those picks are good. I will land on 863 00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,560 Speaker 2: em and worry. I think that pick for Seattle will 864 00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,000 Speaker 2: be good in that high second, in that low second round, 865 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:48,719 Speaker 2: I think it'll just look good over time. I think 866 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,480 Speaker 2: it'll be a good pick. On the bad side, I'm 867 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 2: not going to say Booker because I just don't think 868 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,279 Speaker 2: it's that bad. And I think a guard like that will, 869 00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 2: you know, plugging into a position of need is just 870 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,759 Speaker 2: going to be fine for Dalla versus great. I think 871 00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,520 Speaker 2: it's probably Shuck from New Orleans. Like I think you'll 872 00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,440 Speaker 2: look back and say they probably could have won another 873 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:10,319 Speaker 2: direction to quarterback. You know, car or car will work 874 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,520 Speaker 2: or won't work, And I just don't know if Shuck's 875 00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:16,719 Speaker 2: the answer. So those are my two picks. Any thoughts 876 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:18,680 Speaker 2: on that and then you can get us out of here. 877 00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:20,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean New Orleans. 878 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:22,880 Speaker 1: I think they they're going to have They're one of 879 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:24,960 Speaker 1: the most interesting teams because again they even in the 880 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:26,600 Speaker 1: first round, they may have paid the taxes. 881 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,719 Speaker 3: On the old line that's true to go shuck. 882 00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:30,680 Speaker 1: And then they went not only did they go quarterback 883 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:35,160 Speaker 1: early and I drafted where quarterbacks slid. They I mean 884 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,120 Speaker 1: they did go to be to be fair that you know, 885 00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:40,439 Speaker 1: he is considered a pro ready guy. So but that's 886 00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:41,920 Speaker 1: that's also interesting because. 887 00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,279 Speaker 3: It's like where are you. It's you had a lot 888 00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:44,760 Speaker 3: of holes? 889 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:46,719 Speaker 1: Are you trying to play this guy right away? And 890 00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,760 Speaker 1: then was he just kind of like did car influence 891 00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:53,640 Speaker 1: it after all? So just a lot of question marks 892 00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:58,600 Speaker 1: for me with New Orleans. But I can't say I'm 893 00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:03,960 Speaker 1: super optimistic right now, especially with uh, you know, the Bucks. 894 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,600 Speaker 1: Still even even after that that Abuka pick that I 895 00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:08,360 Speaker 1: don't love, I mean, their offense is still gonna be 896 00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,520 Speaker 1: tough to stop. Uh Carolina is only going to get 897 00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,560 Speaker 1: better and in Atlanta may have may have. 898 00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,719 Speaker 3: Solved their their defensive issues. So New Orleans in a 899 00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:18,200 Speaker 3: tough spot. 900 00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, and Buka and McMillan axt to each other even 901 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,879 Speaker 2: without Evans, and Godwin is yuh so they'll be good. 902 00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:27,600 Speaker 2: All right, Let's get out of here now. That has 903 00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,880 Speaker 2: been the Action Network podcast. We did a f C 904 00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:34,560 Speaker 2: Draft Grades. This is NFC Draft Grades. Check out both 905 00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,359 Speaker 2: episodes and we will be back soon to talk more 906 00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:41,279 Speaker 2: NFL action. 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