WEBVTT - Are They Canceled ? 0:00:23.480 --> 0:00:44.120 Laugh, laugh. If you watch coffee Time too, Baby, you 0:00:44.159 --> 0:00:46.519 know the name flame, my role also known as my 0:00:46.600 --> 0:00:49.120 role Flame. Come in with last and come in with 0:00:49.280 --> 0:00:51.600 Jim Love Launds. Baby, you better catch it when you 0:00:51.680 --> 0:00:55.760 can't drop a knowledge from fatherhood to politics, shouting now comics, 0:00:55.960 --> 0:00:58.600 just paying homics. What's up? Tip? Yeah? You know she 0:00:58.760 --> 0:01:01.440 raped shot towns On. Speak into the ground a second. 0:01:01.960 --> 0:01:04.200 We're gonna last cut of the kicking and at the 0:01:04.360 --> 0:01:06.280 end we leave it, which is a lift dispirit. You 0:01:06.360 --> 0:01:08.559 think you want to revisit, So your friends take a listen, 0:01:09.000 --> 0:01:12.080 folk say split, oh folks that we dig it. No 0:01:12.640 --> 0:01:17.360 do what you do, No do what you don't? No kiss, 0:01:17.440 --> 0:01:42.200 do what I do? Were flame? Hello? Nick? How was 0:01:42.240 --> 0:01:44.920 your week? My week was good. You know, I'll just 0:01:44.959 --> 0:01:47.440 share with you and and you know this Flame, but 0:01:47.480 --> 0:01:49.920 I'll share with Lauren and the Flamets and Vouchets and 0:01:49.920 --> 0:01:52.600 everybody out there listening. I went on hand and booked 0:01:52.640 --> 0:01:54.840 arrangements to go see my mom, and I'm super excited 0:01:54.880 --> 0:01:57.120 about that, having not seen my mom and about oh fame. 0:01:57.160 --> 0:01:59.800 We were talking about this almost two years directly. You know, 0:01:59.840 --> 0:02:02.000 we see each other, We talk all the time. We 0:02:02.040 --> 0:02:04.840 do the FaceTime and all of that. COVID stopped us. 0:02:05.040 --> 0:02:07.400 But the last time I was physically in my mother's 0:02:07.440 --> 0:02:10.480 presence was when I had my mom and everybody, the 0:02:10.480 --> 0:02:13.560 rest of my family um come to d C. So 0:02:13.639 --> 0:02:14.799 we were all in d C and we did the 0:02:14.880 --> 0:02:17.120 museum and all that stuff together. But that was April 0:02:17.520 --> 0:02:23.680 twenty nineteen. Yep. So but ye know that's me, y'all. 0:02:23.720 --> 0:02:26.440 I phone every day, right y'all? What they call that 0:02:26.520 --> 0:02:31.160 when you got absolutely we FaceTime, face FaceTime. We FaceTime 0:02:31.200 --> 0:02:35.400 and my mother likes your Google, your due hang out. Uh, 0:02:35.520 --> 0:02:38.440 so we do that all the time. But my mother, 0:02:38.520 --> 0:02:40.640 you know, doesn't want to be caught Lauren. You know, 0:02:40.639 --> 0:02:42.799 it's like, don't face time with other people around and 0:02:42.880 --> 0:02:44.240 let me know so I can put on some hair, 0:02:44.600 --> 0:02:47.440 you know, and everything we get me on there so 0:02:47.840 --> 0:02:52.360 that can be called no black woman, that's you. You 0:02:52.400 --> 0:02:54.240 can't be calling no black woman out of the blue. 0:02:54.280 --> 0:02:55.840 And she ain't got a damn hair around. You know 0:02:55.880 --> 0:03:01.160 how we do calls and everything else. You gotta prepare people. 0:03:02.600 --> 0:03:04.239 Speaking of that, did you see the video of the 0:03:04.320 --> 0:03:05.960 lady the other day she was in being she had 0:03:06.000 --> 0:03:07.600 a week on and the Zoom meet was over. She 0:03:07.639 --> 0:03:09.359 snaped the week off and went back up under the cover. 0:03:11.800 --> 0:03:14.880 That's very me. Oh my god, that's me too. I'll 0:03:14.919 --> 0:03:16.680 just keep the camera off. This morning, I had an 0:03:16.680 --> 0:03:18.960 eight am called with the like folks in my organizations 0:03:18.960 --> 0:03:21.760 that I know. So they had scarf glasses and everything else, 0:03:21.919 --> 0:03:23.239 like this is what y'all get in the eight o'clock 0:03:23.240 --> 0:03:26.600 in the morning. So period, Well, nicko, let's open up 0:03:26.639 --> 0:03:28.880 the Floodlinds and let's get the started with what we're 0:03:28.880 --> 0:03:31.640 talking about calls. I just want to remind everyone that 0:03:31.680 --> 0:03:33.400 if they had they want to chime in, to make 0:03:33.400 --> 0:03:35.600 sure that they used the flames and the comments and 0:03:35.640 --> 0:03:38.560 that they type in capital letters. At the end of 0:03:38.640 --> 0:03:40.800 the day, you guys want to make sure that you 0:03:40.840 --> 0:03:43.760 all know that we really do value your feedback. Your 0:03:43.880 --> 0:03:47.040 comments and your response at the end of the show 0:03:47.160 --> 0:03:49.200 helps other people to find the show. So at the 0:03:49.280 --> 0:03:50.960 end of laugh and Learn, if you like what you hear, 0:03:51.000 --> 0:03:53.000 go ahead and comment for us, and make sure if 0:03:53.040 --> 0:03:55.000 you want to sign a sound off, you use the 0:03:55.000 --> 0:03:57.600 flames in the comments. I see y'all comments say, y'all 0:03:57.640 --> 0:03:59.240 only see half of me. I have to sit a 0:03:59.280 --> 0:04:02.080 certain way because us yesterday when we were at the 0:04:02.120 --> 0:04:05.680 photo shoot. Oh, I was bent through in my bad 0:04:05.840 --> 0:04:08.760 you know, getting out my articles to change clothes. But 0:04:08.840 --> 0:04:12.080 I didn't kneel down. I just bent over. Baby. When 0:04:12.080 --> 0:04:15.119 I stood up, whoa, Lauren had to crack my back. 0:04:15.240 --> 0:04:17.400 My back was killing me. It's still bothering. My back 0:04:17.480 --> 0:04:23.160 is killing me. But I took a After the age 0:04:23.160 --> 0:04:25.520 of thirty, we have to squat, you know, we're supposed 0:04:25.520 --> 0:04:29.679 to use our knees. Who's thirty, Well, once you reach thirty, 0:04:29.720 --> 0:04:32.040 you need to I'm a twenty nine and a half. 0:04:32.080 --> 0:04:36.840 I'm almost there, though. Nick. Let's talk about this week. 0:04:36.920 --> 0:04:38.839 Let me what what what we started. Let me start 0:04:38.880 --> 0:04:43.240 with parenting and respect on both ends of the spectrum 0:04:43.240 --> 0:04:47.200 of being a parent and a child. Respect is not 0:04:47.320 --> 0:04:51.920 only given or given. You have to give respect. I mean. 0:04:52.160 --> 0:04:53.320 You know what I mean, y'all know what the hell 0:04:53.360 --> 0:04:55.039 I mean. You have to in in order to receive it, 0:04:55.080 --> 0:04:56.800 you have to give it. When I say that, I'm 0:04:56.800 --> 0:04:59.359 talking about the video that happened between Kirk Franklin and 0:04:59.400 --> 0:05:02.279 his son k Ryan. Let me explain something to you. 0:05:02.800 --> 0:05:04.800 Do I think that Kirk Franklin was wrong for cussing 0:05:04.800 --> 0:05:07.560 out his kids. I do not I have cussed out 0:05:07.560 --> 0:05:09.760 my children. Do I think that he was wrong for 0:05:09.800 --> 0:05:12.080 calling his kids some of the names that he chose 0:05:12.120 --> 0:05:15.080 to call his kid? You goddamn right, you get you 0:05:15.120 --> 0:05:18.440 don't call your son black man in this America, in 0:05:18.480 --> 0:05:22.240 this country, a bitch asked nigger publicly where he didn't 0:05:22.240 --> 0:05:24.560 know he's being taped or if that's how he and 0:05:24.560 --> 0:05:26.640 then you see how it didn't even break the son down. 0:05:26.720 --> 0:05:29.799 Then he told the son, I break your mothercking skull, 0:05:29.960 --> 0:05:32.920 and don't you ever disrespect me, your broke ass. This 0:05:33.000 --> 0:05:36.680 is your child. This is your kid. Whatever he is, 0:05:37.000 --> 0:05:41.600 he belongs to you. Whatever he becomes, he still belongs 0:05:41.680 --> 0:05:43.680 to you. If I went in that room and talk 0:05:43.760 --> 0:05:45.600 to my son the way he talked to his kid, 0:05:46.160 --> 0:05:48.200 my son will have a meltdown because my son is 0:05:48.200 --> 0:05:50.679 not accustomed to me. He's speaking to him in that manner. 0:05:50.920 --> 0:05:52.719 So this is how you know that this boy was 0:05:52.800 --> 0:05:54.520 used to that, Because the boy didn't break down. The 0:05:54.520 --> 0:05:56.279 boy stood his ground and come on, come on, I 0:05:56.360 --> 0:05:58.720 dare you, I dare you. That's because he was used 0:05:58.760 --> 0:06:01.440 to being spoken to by Kirk Franklin. Y'all said what 0:06:01.520 --> 0:06:04.479 y'all want to about all these Christians and Gospels and saved. 0:06:04.760 --> 0:06:09.279 They still regular people. The point was that nobody probably 0:06:09.360 --> 0:06:13.360 believed this boy, and he ended up recording his daddy. 0:06:13.640 --> 0:06:16.520 And that's what the problem is, because he probably have 0:06:16.640 --> 0:06:18.800 told people that he was talking to him crazy, but 0:06:18.880 --> 0:06:21.039 then he was smart enough to record it. Let me 0:06:21.080 --> 0:06:23.960 tell you something, Kirk Franklin with that weak ass apology, 0:06:24.160 --> 0:06:26.680 because that what you apologize to us, because if you'd 0:06:26.680 --> 0:06:28.520 have called me a bitch, asked nigga, I'd have called 0:06:28.560 --> 0:06:30.880 you one back. That's what they say about you behind 0:06:30.920 --> 0:06:34.240 closed doors anyway, with them tight as suits, some real talk, Okay, Lord, 0:06:34.279 --> 0:06:36.280 I said my piece. As a daddy, I would never 0:06:36.360 --> 0:06:39.760 call my son bitch as I do call Ni Nick 0:06:39.800 --> 0:06:41.200 if you don't get in here and take this guy 0:06:41.240 --> 0:06:43.960 bute out, if you don't come clean up my bathroom. 0:06:44.000 --> 0:06:46.440 But I would never disrespect my son and didn't expect 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:50.839 him to respect me as his father period, because the 0:06:50.880 --> 0:06:53.880 sword goes both ways. I'm sorry, Lord, just come on, 0:06:54.040 --> 0:07:00.880 I'm acting like Nicholas today. We're starting early today. I 0:07:00.880 --> 0:07:04.159 don't mixed. I haven't mixed feelings about it, because you know, 0:07:04.320 --> 0:07:08.400 he still is a parent and my upbringing, we've my 0:07:08.480 --> 0:07:11.080 household like it's it's very honest, you know what I mean. So, 0:07:11.360 --> 0:07:13.160 and I have an older brother or eight years apart. 0:07:13.600 --> 0:07:15.560 My dad is very strict with him. You know. I've 0:07:15.600 --> 0:07:20.440 heard my dad say some very stern things to my brother. Um, 0:07:20.520 --> 0:07:23.920 So I'm kind of in the middle because the other 0:07:23.960 --> 0:07:25.640 part of me, too, is I don't really like the 0:07:25.680 --> 0:07:29.240 fact that Kirk Franklin's son recorded this conversation and aired 0:07:29.280 --> 0:07:31.680 it for public view. Now. I don't know, maybe he 0:07:31.720 --> 0:07:34.080 feels like he's been verbally abused all of his life 0:07:34.080 --> 0:07:36.640 and he wants to finally, you know, show the public 0:07:36.640 --> 0:07:39.120 who his father is. But I just feel like family 0:07:39.160 --> 0:07:41.040 business needs to stay family business, and you didn't need 0:07:41.040 --> 0:07:43.280 to air your dad's dirty laundry like that. If y'all 0:07:43.320 --> 0:07:44.960 had a real issue and you just felt like you 0:07:45.000 --> 0:07:48.240 could move past it, then sometimes, you know, just because 0:07:48.240 --> 0:07:50.280 your family doesn't mean that you'll have to be together, 0:07:50.480 --> 0:07:52.160 you know what I'm saying. Like, I have family members 0:07:52.160 --> 0:07:53.920 that I don't speak to, and it is what it is. 0:07:54.480 --> 0:07:58.280 So if you felt that serious in your spirit that 0:07:58.360 --> 0:08:00.360 you just didn't think this relationship with your father was 0:08:00.400 --> 0:08:03.640 going to work, then just separate ties, like, just let 0:08:03.640 --> 0:08:05.720 it go. Everything is not meant to be, but to 0:08:05.800 --> 0:08:07.800 take it and air it, I don't really have any 0:08:07.800 --> 0:08:11.400 respect for that. I don't think he should have done that, Lauren. 0:08:11.560 --> 0:08:13.960 Just to kind of piggyback off of what you said, 0:08:14.000 --> 0:08:17.080 I think I'm more aligned with what you just said there. 0:08:17.360 --> 0:08:20.440 I think that anytime a family situation is it should 0:08:20.480 --> 0:08:24.240 stay in the family. That's just my idea. Particularly discrepancies 0:08:24.320 --> 0:08:27.560 like that UH, those things should be handled internally. I 0:08:27.600 --> 0:08:30.840 do think too. I might have felt differently if the 0:08:30.920 --> 0:08:34.400 Sun were a child, but because this was an adult male, 0:08:34.480 --> 0:08:38.240 I'm I think I'm giving a little bit more latitude 0:08:38.280 --> 0:08:41.360 to the language in the exchange because I look at 0:08:41.400 --> 0:08:44.400 it as man to man more so than um man 0:08:44.480 --> 0:08:47.960 to boy or man to child. Even though that is 0:08:48.000 --> 0:08:50.200 his son. It is clear this is not the first 0:08:50.240 --> 0:08:53.600 time they've engaged that way, So I think that, Um, 0:08:53.600 --> 0:08:56.520 it was uncomfortable for me to hear because it became public. 0:08:56.720 --> 0:08:59.040 Let me just say that, But now that it is public, 0:08:59.240 --> 0:09:02.040 I felt like, wow, UM, I think that I need 0:09:02.120 --> 0:09:04.280 to step back simply because this is a family that 0:09:04.400 --> 0:09:07.840 clearly UH engages this way with one another. In the 0:09:07.960 --> 0:09:10.480 times that we live in, with the councel culture and 0:09:10.720 --> 0:09:14.560 with reality TV ain't shut off limits no more, and 0:09:14.600 --> 0:09:18.160 nothing is off Nothing is off limits because we have 0:09:18.280 --> 0:09:21.920 reality TV that we adore. We run to watch the 0:09:22.000 --> 0:09:25.040 foolishness and the buffoonery, and as much as some of 0:09:25.080 --> 0:09:27.800 it is scripted in stage, so much of it is true. 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:31.400 Look at that video, rewatch that. Listen to that video again. 0:09:31.960 --> 0:09:34.680 That man talked to his son like he did not 0:09:34.800 --> 0:09:37.680 even know this man. This is how. This is what 0:09:37.760 --> 0:09:40.440 I heard as a father. I'm not speaking as somebody 0:09:40.440 --> 0:09:44.160 else done outside how. I always have said that I 0:09:44.280 --> 0:09:48.800 never want to lose the respect of my son because 0:09:48.840 --> 0:09:51.160 I'm gonna treat him a certain way. And I'm transgender. 0:09:51.200 --> 0:09:53.560 I'm sitting here with titties, were dresses and wigs and 0:09:53.559 --> 0:09:56.280 ship and he knows exactly who I am. But losing 0:09:56.440 --> 0:09:59.760 his respect would have started in his youth, when he 0:10:00.200 --> 0:10:02.079 very young. He's now a teen. I'm not going to 0:10:02.160 --> 0:10:04.520 do that. But that's my thing too, though. And I mean, 0:10:04.600 --> 0:10:08.360 I guess people can say I think I think he's 0:10:08.400 --> 0:10:14.400 thirty three. He is, But what I'm saying Kirkmen talking 0:10:14.480 --> 0:10:17.520 to that boy like that for years. My only question 0:10:17.640 --> 0:10:19.679 is God, if he speaks to his thirty three year 0:10:19.679 --> 0:10:22.720 old son in this capacity his firstborn. I want to 0:10:22.720 --> 0:10:24.920 know how he talks to his other children, off, I 0:10:24.960 --> 0:10:26.640 want to know how he talks to people who work 0:10:26.720 --> 0:10:29.079 for him. I want to know how he treated the family, 0:10:29.360 --> 0:10:31.720 because the family is no longer with him but my thing. 0:10:32.760 --> 0:10:35.600 But to the point of he's thirty three and we 0:10:35.640 --> 0:10:37.719 don't know what his upbringing is like and how he's 0:10:37.760 --> 0:10:39.920 being talked to, I think is you're also a grown 0:10:39.920 --> 0:10:42.240 ass man at this point, and if you don't like 0:10:42.320 --> 0:10:44.319 the way your daddy's talking to you, you can buck 0:10:44.360 --> 0:10:47.720 back and say something, I'm so sorry, but not enough 0:10:47.760 --> 0:10:50.720 for me, he was because that I just feel like, 0:10:50.760 --> 0:10:53.200 if you're that, you know, firm in your stance of 0:10:53.360 --> 0:10:55.720 you want to air your daddy's dirty laundry and this 0:10:55.800 --> 0:10:57.760 is how he's talking to me, you better buck back 0:10:57.800 --> 0:11:00.920 accordingly and stop acting like, oh, you know this little 0:11:00.920 --> 0:11:05.160 boy in his face, in his face, not all over 0:11:05.200 --> 0:11:07.679 the phone, but right right there, square up with him, 0:11:07.760 --> 0:11:09.920 right there and there. If that's what you want, absolutely 0:11:09.960 --> 0:11:14.040 I'm with you. I'm with you. Hurt people to hurt 0:11:14.640 --> 0:11:17.120 hurt people. I'm gonna say it again, hurt people. Yes 0:11:17.160 --> 0:11:19.800 they do. And I have to believe because that's not 0:11:19.880 --> 0:11:22.559 Kurt's only child, so I have to believe, like like 0:11:22.640 --> 0:11:26.600 some parents, he's probably ranked them. That's not the favorite child, 0:11:26.640 --> 0:11:29.760 like you don't love I'm thinking he probably does not 0:11:29.880 --> 0:11:33.120 love them all equally. Is that fair? That's terrible to say. 0:11:33.160 --> 0:11:37.760 That's terrible, terrible. It's very true, but it's terrible to say. 0:11:37.880 --> 0:11:40.280 We don't that, but we don't say that out loud, 0:11:40.360 --> 0:11:44.200 that you're the favorite child your kids equally, because like 0:11:44.240 --> 0:11:46.319 even the daughter came out and said that she was 0:11:46.360 --> 0:11:48.920 defending her father. I don't know if you guys saw 0:11:48.960 --> 0:11:52.120 that video, but you don't say that allowed Nick a favorite. 0:11:52.360 --> 0:11:55.760 I have a favorite kid, I absolutely do. It's Timmy 0:11:55.920 --> 0:11:59.360 because he don't talk back the dog, and he didn't 0:11:59.440 --> 0:12:01.559 tell you how past my kids is. We gotta stim 0:12:01.640 --> 0:12:03.600 me to check the other day, so I gave each 0:12:03.640 --> 0:12:05.439 one of my kids fo hundred allars a piece they spent. 0:12:05.600 --> 0:12:07.319 They don't need ship, they don't need nothing. I just gave. 0:12:08.080 --> 0:12:10.600 I asked them which one y'all gonna take me to lunch? 0:12:10.720 --> 0:12:16.400 My son said, I just gave you now a hundred dollars. Okay, 0:12:16.400 --> 0:12:19.959 I'm gonna let that sit on y'all brain. That's he 0:12:20.120 --> 0:12:24.240 just I just gave you now a hundred dollars. That's 0:12:24.280 --> 0:12:30.000 what I should have said. There, there you go. You 0:12:30.000 --> 0:12:34.480 should have recorded that where you go. I love it. 0:12:35.679 --> 0:12:37.280 You had me rolling with that. They'll play with the 0:12:37.640 --> 0:12:39.640 stimulus checks. You were talking about how they all dropped 0:12:39.640 --> 0:12:42.080 on Friday, And sure enough, this kind of leads into 0:12:42.080 --> 0:12:45.120 our next topic. Uh, it seems like people were going 0:12:45.160 --> 0:12:47.280 crazy this weekend with a little bit of shopping all 0:12:47.320 --> 0:12:52.200 over the places like shopping. It looks like spring breakers 0:12:52.240 --> 0:12:55.200 went crazy in Florida and police had to respond to 0:12:55.320 --> 0:12:58.319 the number and sizes of crowds. Now, mind you, there 0:12:58.320 --> 0:13:01.040 are those who are arguing that these checks dropped right 0:13:01.080 --> 0:13:03.920 around the same time that the vaccine has opened up 0:13:03.920 --> 0:13:07.480 to more people and that um, we have not reached 0:13:07.520 --> 0:13:11.040 herd immunity. So uh, you know, there are some who 0:13:11.040 --> 0:13:15.000 are concerned that we may see another spike in the virus. Well, 0:13:15.080 --> 0:13:17.839 let's just say it is Florida has been open, okay, 0:13:17.920 --> 0:13:23.200 and Florida, Florida never closed. The scientists basically said Corona 0:13:23.240 --> 0:13:26.040 wasn't real. He was fudging, you know, COVID cases and 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:29.200 numbers and everything else. Florida never closed. And so for 0:13:29.240 --> 0:13:31.760 the simple fact that you can. The beaches are open, 0:13:31.920 --> 0:13:34.720 spring breakers are going to flock there. That's just natural. 0:13:34.760 --> 0:13:37.840 And as one that used to do it frequently in college, 0:13:37.880 --> 0:13:40.840 I always went to Miami for spring break, and it's 0:13:40.920 --> 0:13:42.680 it's just gonna happen, you know what I mean. The 0:13:42.760 --> 0:13:45.000 cases they may go up, but you're not going to 0:13:45.120 --> 0:13:47.280 really know because Florida hasn't been honest with any of 0:13:47.280 --> 0:13:50.880 their numbers since the pandemic you know happened. Is it 0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:54.040 is what it is like? Is anybody surprised? I'm not. 0:13:55.640 --> 0:13:58.839 I think that people are probably just frustrated. Well that's 0:13:58.880 --> 0:14:00.320 it right there. That's why I told them I wasn't 0:14:00.320 --> 0:14:02.320 sending my kid back to school because have you seen 0:14:02.360 --> 0:14:04.560 the big fight in the college in the high school 0:14:04.800 --> 0:14:08.080 basketball weekend in Virginia, whether the white and the black 0:14:08.120 --> 0:14:09.520 team were playing against each other where it was a 0:14:09.559 --> 0:14:12.960 predominantly white school and predominantly black school. Predominant black school 0:14:13.000 --> 0:14:15.400 came to the predominantly white school to play a basketball game. 0:14:15.480 --> 0:14:18.319 During the game, the entire game, the audience as well 0:14:18.360 --> 0:14:21.320 as the team members call them racial slurs, all kind 0:14:21.320 --> 0:14:24.320 of in words and everything else. The referees never intervened, 0:14:24.400 --> 0:14:27.400 They never said anything. A huge, massive fight broke out. 0:14:27.440 --> 0:14:30.480 After the fight, people have been locked down for a year. 0:14:30.560 --> 0:14:33.320 We are like caged animals. You're gonna just let us 0:14:33.320 --> 0:14:35.640 go and give us some money and say go, We're 0:14:35.640 --> 0:14:39.440 gonna go. They're gonna spread. No, I'm serious. That was that. 0:14:39.560 --> 0:14:42.040 Somebody could have died for that. And with you watching 0:14:42.040 --> 0:14:44.480 the news and watching social media and listen to all 0:14:44.600 --> 0:14:47.320 this racial hate in this country, and then you put 0:14:47.360 --> 0:14:49.520 these kids against each other and they got the parents 0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:52.280 in the stands and other students calling these kids niggas 0:14:52.320 --> 0:14:54.320 and you ain't this and you're black and you're what, 0:14:54.440 --> 0:14:57.800 you're worthless and woo woo. Of course they're gonna last out. Baby, 0:14:58.000 --> 0:14:59.840 I'm telling you right now, we are on the po 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:02.600 the kig of I ain't sitting my kids in school 0:15:02.600 --> 0:15:04.880 because y'all unleash all these craziest kids. And if you 0:15:04.960 --> 0:15:08.040 knew little Johnny was crazy before you, before the coronavirus 0:15:08.120 --> 0:15:10.760 hit and the teachers been sending notes home, little Johnny 0:15:10.800 --> 0:15:12.640 is still crazy. He even more crazy now because he's 0:15:12.640 --> 0:15:14.480 been home with your crazy ask for a whole year. 0:15:14.800 --> 0:15:16.480 I ain't sending my kids in school with a Johnny. 0:15:16.480 --> 0:15:19.400 I don't Johnny Johnny might be like that, like that 0:15:19.520 --> 0:15:23.440 senator in uh in d C. What's her name, Marjorie? Yeah, 0:15:23.480 --> 0:15:31.080 that bitch. Yeah, I said at that bitch. Okay, where 0:15:31.080 --> 0:15:34.360 we're going. Where we're going, Coach, I'm on it, I'm ready. 0:15:34.760 --> 0:15:38.280 What's our next time? Oh? We talked about a little 0:15:38.280 --> 0:15:40.280 bit of everything, you know we said before we opened 0:15:40.320 --> 0:15:42.160 up to the flame mats. We would talk about one 0:15:42.160 --> 0:15:44.160 of the things that have been uh top of line. 0:15:44.160 --> 0:15:46.720 Because you also talked about how much you enjoyed watching 0:15:46.760 --> 0:15:48.360 the Grammys and you want to give a shout out 0:15:48.440 --> 0:15:51.320 to your sister. I ain't watching the Grammys. I ain't 0:15:51.320 --> 0:15:53.120 told you that because I was at a photo shoot. 0:15:53.280 --> 0:15:58.480 I do know that. Boss one our boss, right, Tiffany 0:15:58.520 --> 0:16:01.120 hattish my baby it want to grab me? For Best 0:16:01.160 --> 0:16:03.960 Comedy Album. The first time since two thousand and two 0:16:04.040 --> 0:16:06.160 that a black woman with last black woman to win 0:16:06.520 --> 0:16:09.560 for a comedy album was Whoopi Goldberg. So Tiffany just 0:16:09.800 --> 0:16:12.600 one that for Best Comedy Album. Congratulations Tiffany Hatt this 0:16:12.720 --> 0:16:15.360 we love you. Hear it, laugh and learn the executive 0:16:15.400 --> 0:16:20.440 producer and uh Andre Day was nominated. Who won? No, no, no, 0:16:20.480 --> 0:16:23.040 that's the best. That's for Grant that's Oscars. Also say 0:16:23.280 --> 0:16:25.920 Andre get ud get nominated for an Oscar but on 0:16:25.960 --> 0:16:28.560 the Grammys front, so we had a lot of first time, 0:16:28.680 --> 0:16:30.200 a lot of first times, and so like let us 0:16:30.240 --> 0:16:32.520 see finally won her first Grammy. So shout out for 0:16:32.600 --> 0:16:35.200 lot to see. I do want to say, though, that 0:16:35.320 --> 0:16:38.560 I have one mad respect for Beyonce because she just 0:16:38.600 --> 0:16:41.240 made history. So shout out to Beyonce. She has officially 0:16:41.240 --> 0:16:44.000 won twenty eight Grammys, the first female artist to ever 0:16:44.040 --> 0:16:46.360 do so. But also too, I want to give a 0:16:46.360 --> 0:16:49.080 shout out to miss Cardi b the wait, wait a minute, 0:16:49.080 --> 0:16:51.200 before you get off Beyonce, you gotta go to her baby. 0:16:51.640 --> 0:16:54.960 Oh and yes, Ms Blue Ivy, let me tell you 0:16:55.000 --> 0:16:57.520 all a story about bid real quick. Okay, since we're 0:16:57.520 --> 0:17:00.880 gonna bring up Blue Ivy, I remember what was this? 0:17:00.960 --> 0:17:03.840 Three years ago? I went to um Miss Tina Nose 0:17:03.920 --> 0:17:07.760 Lawsons Worrible Art Gallup and I realized how rich Blue 0:17:07.760 --> 0:17:10.040 Ivy was. When we were at the auction portion of 0:17:10.080 --> 0:17:12.800 the event and she was casually trying to outbid Tyler 0:17:12.840 --> 0:17:16.920 Perry on a painting. I said, wow, it must be 0:17:17.040 --> 0:17:20.800 nice seven years old, seven years old. Just nope, I 0:17:20.840 --> 0:17:23.160 got money. I'm gonna get this painting. It took her 0:17:23.160 --> 0:17:25.160 father to say, put the put the paddle down. We're 0:17:25.160 --> 0:17:27.080 not We're not doing that anymore. But I'm just saying 0:17:27.400 --> 0:17:32.080 congratulations to her. It must be that baby she's got, 0:17:32.160 --> 0:17:36.160 she's got receipts and she's eight. So I didn't watch 0:17:36.240 --> 0:17:37.840 it either, but you were talking about how much you 0:17:37.840 --> 0:17:40.040 want to mention that. That's why I was segu into that. 0:17:40.080 --> 0:17:43.480 But you Gail King talked about how I guess at 0:17:43.480 --> 0:17:46.000 some point Beyonce said to her that she was proud 0:17:46.040 --> 0:17:48.640 of her, and Gail saying, as a mother and as 0:17:48.640 --> 0:17:51.040 a parent, there's nothing you can do more than to 0:17:51.080 --> 0:17:53.480 tell your children that you're proud of them. That that 0:17:53.600 --> 0:17:57.200 just right. Go back to that first conversation we was having. 0:17:57.400 --> 0:17:59.840 Tell your son or your daughter that you're proud of 0:17:59.880 --> 0:18:03.040 them instead of called them bits what I say, and 0:18:03.080 --> 0:18:05.239 don't tell him that who's the favorite and who's not 0:18:06.880 --> 0:18:09.359 your broke? As? How do you call your son broke 0:18:09.400 --> 0:18:12.480 and you are gospel superstar? If he yoke, he shouldn't 0:18:12.480 --> 0:18:15.440 be broke. He should be spending your money. But also 0:18:15.480 --> 0:18:17.000 to a Grammars fan, I do, like I said, I 0:18:17.000 --> 0:18:19.199 want to shout out Cardi B as well, because I 0:18:19.240 --> 0:18:21.119 think as a whole, a lot of people felt that 0:18:21.160 --> 0:18:24.480 many artists are popular artists were snubbed for the Grammys 0:18:24.480 --> 0:18:26.320 this year, and a lot of people were outraged. But 0:18:26.400 --> 0:18:28.800 Cardi B actually came out yesterday and said, I know 0:18:28.880 --> 0:18:30.600 a lot of you guys feel upset and that you 0:18:30.640 --> 0:18:32.879 were snubbed. However, this was the first year that the 0:18:32.920 --> 0:18:36.600 Recording Academy nominated so many independent black artists in the 0:18:36.720 --> 0:18:40.359 history of the nomination process. So she said, we still 0:18:40.359 --> 0:18:43.280 need to honor these folks that are getting their dues 0:18:43.680 --> 0:18:45.080 at this point in time. You know, they put in 0:18:45.119 --> 0:18:48.080 the work and they're finally getting their recognition, even if 0:18:48.080 --> 0:18:50.880 it's not the most popular artist. This is their time 0:18:50.920 --> 0:18:53.600 to shine. So I appreciate Cardi B saying that she 0:18:53.680 --> 0:18:56.760 was absolutely right. My uncle want to Grammy yesterday? Well 0:18:56.800 --> 0:18:59.000 another one it's like his. I think it's like a 0:18:59.119 --> 0:19:03.560 six now. Congratulations uncle. So I'm very happy about everybody 0:19:03.600 --> 0:19:06.640 in their accomplishments. Um as a whole, I got a question, 0:19:06.680 --> 0:19:09.480 when is Alexa and Syria gonna get a Grammy? And 0:19:09.720 --> 0:19:14.080 beyond the kids Alexa and Sirie, Rummy and Rummy and sir, 0:19:14.200 --> 0:19:16.920 So you show you what I know, honey, Rummy, Oh 0:19:16.920 --> 0:19:18.960 I love that was the thing that you talked to. 0:19:19.480 --> 0:19:21.480 That is the Alexa and Siria, that is who you 0:19:21.520 --> 0:19:24.520 talked to. You know, I thought that was Beyonce kids name. Okay, 0:19:24.600 --> 0:19:30.560 I'm look, show you what I know. Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, 0:19:31.480 --> 0:19:33.160 I know what I want to talk about. So this 0:19:33.200 --> 0:19:36.560 week there was a big, big bruhaha over at the 0:19:36.600 --> 0:19:42.000 talk because Sharon Osborne and um Show Underwood had a 0:19:42.480 --> 0:19:46.440 little riff, well not even a riff. Sharon Osburg made 0:19:46.480 --> 0:19:49.760 some very disparaging comments, and I said disparage because I 0:19:49.840 --> 0:19:52.760 watched to see what we seeing. Um you know what 0:19:52.840 --> 0:19:55.720 bothers me about people who don't think that they're racist 0:19:55.760 --> 0:19:57.440 when they say they don't see it, if they act 0:19:57.480 --> 0:19:59.879 like they don't see it. I know in Britain it 0:20:00.000 --> 0:20:04.080 maybe a little different because she is British. But yeah, 0:20:04.200 --> 0:20:07.080 Pierce Morgan was out of pocket. SRL Underwood did not 0:20:07.200 --> 0:20:10.040 corner her. But I didn't like the fact that Sure 0:20:10.040 --> 0:20:13.000 Sharon Osboard went around and I do like the fact 0:20:13.000 --> 0:20:14.679 that she did stop me sure when Sure it was 0:20:14.920 --> 0:20:17.720 don't start that crying because misure always breaks down crying. 0:20:17.760 --> 0:20:19.960 I know that from experience on Comic View two thousand 0:20:20.000 --> 0:20:21.760 and five. If you don't believe me, watch it. She'll 0:20:21.840 --> 0:20:25.000 just started crying to change the narrative. But I'm not fighting, 0:20:25.000 --> 0:20:27.119 sure because Sheryl stood her ground. So sure they're right. 0:20:27.160 --> 0:20:30.040 But now they have put the talk on hiatus, so 0:20:30.080 --> 0:20:31.879 we don't know what's going on over there. What do 0:20:31.880 --> 0:20:34.320 you think they're gonna do? Um, we're living in a 0:20:34.359 --> 0:20:37.000 strange time of councel culture. What you think they're gonna do? 0:20:37.320 --> 0:20:40.440 I honestly, I mean, I don't want to say anybody 0:20:40.480 --> 0:20:42.200 should be fired, because I just think that that's bad 0:20:42.240 --> 0:20:46.399 Carmen to put on yourself, because that's somebody's livelies. But 0:20:46.560 --> 0:20:49.000 I think that I'll say this. I think Sharon's comments 0:20:49.000 --> 0:20:51.919 were very problematic. And we said this last week that 0:20:52.000 --> 0:20:55.639 I find it very offensive when white people don't acknowledge 0:20:55.680 --> 0:20:58.159 they're the fact that they're racist and then expect us 0:20:58.240 --> 0:21:00.960 black folks to educate them on why they're being racist. 0:21:01.240 --> 0:21:03.119 I think that is the most disrespectful thing that you 0:21:03.160 --> 0:21:06.399 can do. You can go educate yourself. And Sharon Osborne 0:21:06.400 --> 0:21:09.760 was completely wrong. She was a absolutely wrong. She came 0:21:09.760 --> 0:21:13.000 out and said people forget that Pierce Morgan is being paid, 0:21:13.200 --> 0:21:16.040 you know, to share his opinion. And Pierce Morgan, I 0:21:16.080 --> 0:21:20.280 stand with you until you understand the const the context 0:21:20.359 --> 0:21:23.760 of something, or understand fully what's happening. Don't put yourself 0:21:23.760 --> 0:21:25.600 out on front street and then try to play victim 0:21:25.600 --> 0:21:29.320 when ship backfires on you. Absolutely not. So Sharon Osborne 0:21:29.359 --> 0:21:31.879 needs to be held accountable for her statement and what 0:21:32.000 --> 0:21:35.600 she did. Whatever those you know, repercussions are, let them 0:21:35.600 --> 0:21:37.520 be what they may. I'm not gonna put anything negative 0:21:37.560 --> 0:21:41.639 on anybody, but she should have known better, especially in 0:21:41.640 --> 0:21:45.360 this climate. She really should have known better. I understand 0:21:45.359 --> 0:21:48.719 that Sharon and that this is not related, but I 0:21:48.760 --> 0:21:50.520 think it speaks to maybe a character a bit. I 0:21:50.600 --> 0:21:54.040 understand that Sharon was behind the firing of Holly Pete Robinson. 0:21:54.119 --> 0:21:58.719 You know, she was a sweet woman, uh that you know, 0:21:59.200 --> 0:22:01.600 Sharon had a problem with Holly Robinson Pete, and I 0:22:01.640 --> 0:22:05.520 understand instead of speaking to Holly Robinson Pete directly about 0:22:05.720 --> 0:22:07.199 what she had a problem with, she did the thing 0:22:07.280 --> 0:22:09.919 that so many do. Uh. They went to network and 0:22:09.960 --> 0:22:12.200 they complained. But you know, Flam and I were talking 0:22:12.200 --> 0:22:15.639 about just this whole cancel culture overall, and I feel 0:22:15.680 --> 0:22:19.520 as though, Um, Sharon, unfortunately in one I do believe 0:22:19.520 --> 0:22:23.080 the onus is on the individual to educate themselves or 0:22:23.119 --> 0:22:25.720 at least be open to hearing the feedback from those 0:22:25.760 --> 0:22:28.560 who feel either marginalized or feel as though, Uh, there 0:22:28.560 --> 0:22:31.520 are issues around race that need a bit more nuanced 0:22:31.640 --> 0:22:34.919 or at least compassion. Um. We're seeing that now, with 0:22:35.000 --> 0:22:38.639 that with Chris Harrison for The Bachelor, Rhett. Uh. You know, 0:22:38.920 --> 0:22:41.400 we're seeing that in so many different instances of people 0:22:41.400 --> 0:22:43.639 who are being let go. I'm from Chicago, as you 0:22:43.680 --> 0:22:45.720 all know, and there's a popular sports anchor, Mark j 0:22:45.800 --> 0:22:48.679 and Greco just got fired. Good he should have got fired. 0:22:48.760 --> 0:22:50.800 He should have been fired for what he said about 0:22:50.800 --> 0:22:53.720 Sheryl Burton. He should have been terminated. I remember, I 0:22:54.080 --> 0:22:56.359 just saw that he should have been terminated. But I 0:22:56.359 --> 0:22:58.440 don't want to get off topic. So come back to cause, 0:22:58.480 --> 0:23:00.400 you know you would take us over the river. On back, 0:23:00.440 --> 0:23:02.080 Come on back, players, come on back. But but what 0:23:02.119 --> 0:23:04.240 I don't like to do is but what I don't 0:23:04.280 --> 0:23:05.640 want to do is just throw it out there without 0:23:05.680 --> 0:23:07.639 giving you some kind of context. I do believe that 0:23:07.680 --> 0:23:11.080 all of these situations require people with a microphone with 0:23:11.160 --> 0:23:14.280 the platform to understand in the least show compassion to 0:23:14.320 --> 0:23:16.400 those who are saying, hey, we feel a little bit 0:23:16.440 --> 0:23:18.879 this way, and then to just flat out dismiss them 0:23:18.920 --> 0:23:20.080 and say, well, you don't have a right to feel 0:23:20.119 --> 0:23:21.879 that way because that's not what it was. You're like, whoa, 0:23:23.000 --> 0:23:25.320 here's my here's my take on sharing Oswood and I 0:23:25.400 --> 0:23:28.560 like your Eysborne. You can't have no comment too much 0:23:28.600 --> 0:23:30.639 of opinion of getting people fired. You were married to 0:23:30.680 --> 0:23:32.480 a man and still is married to a man who 0:23:32.520 --> 0:23:35.680 bites the head off lave bats and then you kiss 0:23:35.720 --> 0:23:37.920 him in the mouth. He go down and give you 0:23:38.040 --> 0:23:40.400 head but he got bad blood in his mouth. Girl, 0:23:40.440 --> 0:23:42.200 if you don't sit your heads down and go back 0:23:42.200 --> 0:23:45.520 to UK with that, but well, flame, I think I 0:23:45.560 --> 0:23:51.760 think that's organic. Though that's terrible, that's nasty, that's nasty. 0:23:51.920 --> 0:23:54.120 And then you want to attack sherl Underwood. And y'all 0:23:54.160 --> 0:23:56.399 know me and Sherl Underwood have one under the bridge, 0:23:56.400 --> 0:23:59.040 but it is now water under the bridge. I thought 0:23:59.040 --> 0:24:00.840 that Sheryl still her round and say what she had 0:24:00.880 --> 0:24:04.120 to say, and Cheryl was so diplomatic with it. Sheryl 0:24:04.200 --> 0:24:08.399 her temperament remained calm. Sheryl stayed in her lane. She 0:24:08.560 --> 0:24:13.920 never overspoke, she never disrespected sharing, and Sharon was combative. 0:24:14.040 --> 0:24:18.280 Sharon was combative because she knew she was cornered. When 0:24:18.280 --> 0:24:20.280 you corner an animal, they back to the wall. They 0:24:20.320 --> 0:24:22.720 had a new two options, swing or die. Baby. She 0:24:22.760 --> 0:24:25.400 started swinging. They need to take me, baby. I don't 0:24:25.440 --> 0:24:27.720 even think corners so much as I'm asking you too. 0:24:28.000 --> 0:24:29.920 I'm asking you to understand where I'm coming from. No, 0:24:30.080 --> 0:24:32.159 you'll tell me where he was. You'll tell me right 0:24:32.160 --> 0:24:35.320 now where I was. Like, whoa, what just happened? If 0:24:35.359 --> 0:24:38.040 you need a replacement for Sharon Osin, would you like 0:24:38.119 --> 0:24:40.640 I got red hair already? What you need? What you need. 0:24:40.760 --> 0:24:42.439 I'm just saying I can feel the info. I can 0:24:42.480 --> 0:24:44.080 sit right in the middle seat, Baby, I fit in 0:24:44.080 --> 0:24:48.000 the middle. Yeah. I know that they're the talk is 0:24:48.080 --> 0:24:50.560 under review, so I'm curious to see what happens. But 0:24:50.680 --> 0:24:52.760 like I said, Sharon was a d percent wrong. And 0:24:52.800 --> 0:24:55.760 to your point, Nick, you know she got Holly Robinson 0:24:55.800 --> 0:24:59.399 Pete fired specifically because she was and I quote to ghetto. 0:24:59.600 --> 0:25:02.480 That is a exactly what Holly Robinson Pete said that 0:25:02.480 --> 0:25:06.480 that was the reason why she was fired. Issue Molly 0:25:06.520 --> 0:25:09.080 issue with the Sharon Osworth situation. I mentioned Mark j 0:25:09.200 --> 0:25:11.960 and Greco, and I also mentioned Chris Harrison from The Bachelor. 0:25:12.520 --> 0:25:16.280 I do believe that we should we should counsel people 0:25:16.359 --> 0:25:19.359 before we cancel them. Like, I'm really uncomfortable with the 0:25:19.359 --> 0:25:21.680 way people are just not you're like all of a 0:25:21.720 --> 0:25:24.320 sudden bam. Like I think that when you have a 0:25:24.720 --> 0:25:27.840 imagine what can be learned. Since The Talk is a 0:25:27.880 --> 0:25:32.040 platform that clearly has a demographic where they try to 0:25:32.080 --> 0:25:36.760 reach people in Middle America, Uh, primarily right, if you 0:25:36.800 --> 0:25:39.239 just imagine how many people can say wow. I never 0:25:39.240 --> 0:25:42.400 thought about that, because I do believe it's possible. There 0:25:42.440 --> 0:25:45.240 are some who never thought about, you know, asking if 0:25:45.240 --> 0:25:46.840 the baby is gonna be too dark? It's a little 0:25:46.880 --> 0:25:49.920 bit racist, y'all. Really, I never thought about that, Nick, Well, 0:25:50.040 --> 0:25:53.240 let me tell you why and just maybe have that conversation. 0:25:54.240 --> 0:25:58.359 Because for me, and this is me, I have definitely 0:25:58.920 --> 0:26:00.959 lived and I have family members who are a different 0:26:00.960 --> 0:26:04.240 skin tone, and some of them have been valued throughout 0:26:04.320 --> 0:26:08.240 life in a higher regard than I have because their 0:26:08.320 --> 0:26:11.119 light and light is often seen as prettier. Light is 0:26:11.160 --> 0:26:13.879 often seen as more attractive. So it's not it wasn't 0:26:14.040 --> 0:26:17.120 left field for me to have them say there were 0:26:17.119 --> 0:26:20.080 family members and that family concerned about the baby skin color. 0:26:20.280 --> 0:26:23.080 That's my experience, not putting that on any of you all, 0:26:23.280 --> 0:26:25.600 But I'm just telling you I've lived in the situations 0:26:25.600 --> 0:26:29.119 where light skin was revered, so it's not ridiculous for 0:26:29.160 --> 0:26:31.840 me to believe that there were those concerned about the 0:26:31.880 --> 0:26:34.520 color of that baby skin and that he had not 0:26:34.600 --> 0:26:37.760 even thought about the fact that, Wow, people think about that. Yeah, 0:26:38.280 --> 0:26:42.479 you think about that. Nope, Nope, nope, Um yeah that 0:26:42.560 --> 0:26:46.760 was for Harry. I'm I'm telling Sheryl Sherry was right 0:26:46.800 --> 0:26:49.560 on this one. I've seen she're wrong on some other ship, 0:26:49.680 --> 0:26:51.200 but she was right on this one, and she was 0:26:51.320 --> 0:26:53.720 right to stand her ground. And CBS, I hope you'll 0:26:53.720 --> 0:26:56.359 pay attention to that and don't be going all left 0:26:56.400 --> 0:26:58.520 and right and sad ways. I don't want to lose 0:26:58.520 --> 0:27:00.520 her job. I don't. I don't think we should lose 0:27:00.520 --> 0:27:03.920 her job. I don't watch the talk, but when I 0:27:03.920 --> 0:27:05.840 if I do turn it on, I'm used to seeing 0:27:05.840 --> 0:27:08.360 her sitting there in the middle. I don't. I don't 0:27:08.359 --> 0:27:10.000 agree with you and what you said that people should 0:27:10.000 --> 0:27:13.040 be culture, because now they want people should be counseled 0:27:13.040 --> 0:27:16.000 because now they want to cancel Andrew Cuomo. If we 0:27:16.119 --> 0:27:19.560 lose Andrew Cuomo from the Democratic Party, the Republicans gonna 0:27:19.560 --> 0:27:22.000 have one up on us. We didn't cancel the president 0:27:22.080 --> 0:27:24.040 after all the ship that he pulled for four years. 0:27:24.400 --> 0:27:26.439 Before we go to that, I want to backtracked on 0:27:26.440 --> 0:27:29.240 what Nick said because this and this is where I'm 0:27:29.280 --> 0:27:32.240 coming from. You feel like they should not cancel or 0:27:32.280 --> 0:27:34.600 what Well, we're not even get to Cuomo. Le' let's 0:27:34.600 --> 0:27:37.919 address what you just said first. I haven't. I have 0:27:37.920 --> 0:27:41.040 a question to ask you. When does the responsibility fall 0:27:41.119 --> 0:27:44.439 on the racist? Is my question? How how long do 0:27:44.560 --> 0:27:48.240 we have to continue to counsel people and educate people 0:27:48.520 --> 0:27:51.280 and give them an opportunity to learn and give them 0:27:51.280 --> 0:27:53.879 an opportunity to see a different perspective? How long do 0:27:54.000 --> 0:27:56.960 we have to keep doing that before the responsibility officially 0:27:57.000 --> 0:27:59.919 falls on the other party that's committing the act? Because 0:28:00.359 --> 0:28:03.560 I think that's yeah. I think I think that we 0:28:03.600 --> 0:28:05.919 have to agree on what's racist though, right, and I 0:28:05.960 --> 0:28:08.440 think that's where the nuance is. I think that if 0:28:08.480 --> 0:28:11.200 you counsel someone like a Sharon because I don't think 0:28:11.240 --> 0:28:13.959 she's standing there burning across in her front yard. I 0:28:14.000 --> 0:28:16.119 just don't believe that, and I believe there's space to 0:28:16.200 --> 0:28:18.880 teach and educate some people. I'm not ready to throw 0:28:18.920 --> 0:28:20.720 the baby out with the bath water, and I feel 0:28:20.720 --> 0:28:24.359 like some people really can be an an advocate and 0:28:24.400 --> 0:28:28.920 an ally. She clearly said what she said, and still 0:28:29.040 --> 0:28:32.000 to that she kept She's still right there with that. 0:28:32.000 --> 0:28:34.040 That's what I'm saying, because my thing is she listened 0:28:34.080 --> 0:28:38.600 to Pierce Morrigan talk mad trash about Megan Marco, and 0:28:38.600 --> 0:28:41.880 we all know part of it is Megan Marco rejected 0:28:41.920 --> 0:28:45.960 Pierce Morgan and that's part of the So that's really 0:28:46.000 --> 0:28:48.240 the crux of the root of the issue. But he 0:28:48.560 --> 0:28:53.120 went on national television time and time again, made racist comments, 0:28:53.200 --> 0:28:56.560 made sexist comments towards her, and just kept berating and 0:28:56.600 --> 0:28:59.280 bashing her. And she never said anything. She never addressed 0:28:59.320 --> 0:29:02.479 him and never acknowed him. And on the heels of 0:29:02.520 --> 0:29:04.920 an interview that you do with Oprah where you're talking 0:29:04.960 --> 0:29:09.000 about the racism that you experience within the institution, Pierce 0:29:09.120 --> 0:29:12.920 is choosing to make comments and still make subliminal racists, 0:29:13.320 --> 0:29:15.320 you know, make it seem like it's not an issue. 0:29:15.600 --> 0:29:18.160 And then you have Sharon Osborne she has eyes and 0:29:18.200 --> 0:29:19.719 ears like the rest of us, and has the same 0:29:19.800 --> 0:29:22.640 listening skills that everybody does, and probably even better because 0:29:22.640 --> 0:29:25.120 she's on a talk show, she holds interviews. She has 0:29:25.160 --> 0:29:28.880 to be able to dissect hertain information in an appropriate way. 0:29:28.960 --> 0:29:30.760 For us to sit up here and say, oh, Sharon 0:29:30.760 --> 0:29:33.480 didn't know she was being racist, I'm so sorry. I know, 0:29:33.760 --> 0:29:36.000 absolutely not. And I don't have time to counsel Sharon 0:29:36.040 --> 0:29:39.920 Osborne about why what she did was wrong. No, and again, 0:29:40.040 --> 0:29:42.520 I'm not here to defend Sharon either, but I feel 0:29:42.520 --> 0:29:44.680 like I feel like a woman who works with the 0:29:44.720 --> 0:29:48.760 diverse cast has hope, and that's just I just feel 0:29:48.760 --> 0:29:51.120 like Sharon is not lost when I look at her, 0:29:51.160 --> 0:29:53.280 and we will talk about him later, but when we 0:29:53.360 --> 0:29:56.080 talk when we talk about the congressman out of Wisconsin, 0:29:56.280 --> 0:29:57.960 to me, those are very different things, and I feel 0:29:57.960 --> 0:30:00.360 like Sharon is someone who still can be an ally. 0:30:00.400 --> 0:30:02.640 That's all I'm saying. I just feel like that she 0:30:02.680 --> 0:30:04.920 shouldn't be fired and that there's room to be counseled. 0:30:05.280 --> 0:30:07.040 I don't think she should be fired, but I'm going 0:30:07.120 --> 0:30:08.760 to Lauren on that. How at how long do we 0:30:08.760 --> 0:30:10.400 have to take it? It's been for a hundred plus 0:30:10.480 --> 0:30:13.240 years that we've been excusing. It's an excuse. Oh, it's 0:30:13.280 --> 0:30:14.880 just the way things are. It's just the way the 0:30:14.920 --> 0:30:18.200 things go. It's just Brianna Taylor been then, a year yesterday. 0:30:18.320 --> 0:30:20.240 It's just the way the things go. Because ain't nobody 0:30:20.520 --> 0:30:22.840 been charged for her? Nobody has been brought to put 0:30:22.880 --> 0:30:24.840 He would put their fee to the fire for what 0:30:24.880 --> 0:30:27.040 they did to Brianna Taylor, kicking her doe in and 0:30:27.120 --> 0:30:29.480 killing that woman in her own goddamn be it? So 0:30:29.720 --> 0:30:32.160 how long do we have to say, Oh, it's a pass. 0:30:32.280 --> 0:30:34.720 You don't get no fucking past. We don't get done 0:30:37.240 --> 0:30:39.120 what I see Tell her to call me. And I'm 0:30:39.160 --> 0:30:41.840 just saying, if you want to in any realm or space, 0:30:41.880 --> 0:30:43.760 if you want to be an advocate about something, what's 0:30:43.760 --> 0:30:45.000 the first thing that you do. If you want to 0:30:45.040 --> 0:30:47.680 be an advocate? You do your own research. Right, You 0:30:47.720 --> 0:30:51.520 don't technically necessarily lean on people to become an advocate. 0:30:51.640 --> 0:30:54.800 You do your research, You have you initiate certain conversations 0:30:54.800 --> 0:30:57.320 with people, you engage with certain people. You get your 0:30:57.320 --> 0:31:00.600 own literature to read for better understand ending. You don't 0:31:00.600 --> 0:31:02.920 put the onus and responsibility on somebody else. To help 0:31:02.960 --> 0:31:05.520 you become advocate. That's not how advocate. And then how 0:31:05.600 --> 0:31:08.440 you gonna be petty Pierce Morgan and be mad because 0:31:08.480 --> 0:31:11.120 you couldn't get none of that black girl magic. Apparently 0:31:11.280 --> 0:31:14.480 Megan Marco must got the watch because she made a 0:31:14.560 --> 0:31:18.920 prince become a commoner. Baby, it's something between her legs. Baby, 0:31:18.960 --> 0:31:21.240 y'all know nothing about See Pierce Morgan was trying to 0:31:21.280 --> 0:31:22.720 get him with the taste of that because he would 0:31:22.720 --> 0:31:24.960 have been because look at Harry here, he got so 0:31:25.040 --> 0:31:28.720 much swag. Megan Marco, Girl, I'm taking a class when 0:31:28.720 --> 0:31:33.720 you went outside I signed up at. But but also 0:31:33.760 --> 0:31:35.680 to speaking on cancer culture, I feel like we can 0:31:35.800 --> 0:31:39.320 kind of segue. You brought up Andrew Cuomo flame, so 0:31:40.240 --> 0:31:42.480 a lot his evolved since last week when we talked 0:31:42.520 --> 0:31:45.600 about it. So what are your new thoughts around? Don't 0:31:45.600 --> 0:31:47.960 we not canceling Andrew Cuomo? Not on laugh and learn. 0:31:48.000 --> 0:31:50.200 I don't care what y'all doing in New York. Understand 0:31:50.240 --> 0:31:52.479 that there is a method to that madness. And when 0:31:52.520 --> 0:31:56.000 I say that, if y'all replace Andrew Cuomo as the 0:31:56.040 --> 0:31:58.000 governor of New York, they're gonna put somebody in there 0:31:58.040 --> 0:32:00.760 that's gonna try to stop Latitia James or block Lutitia 0:32:00.840 --> 0:32:03.760 James from prosecuting Donald Trump. See, there is a whole 0:32:03.960 --> 0:32:07.680 three sixty two. This Latitia James is the prosecutors that 0:32:07.680 --> 0:32:09.440 that's out to get Downald Trump from the state of 0:32:09.440 --> 0:32:12.440 New York. But replacing Cuomo, they will put somebody else 0:32:12.480 --> 0:32:15.880 there who might block her from doing that. So all 0:32:15.880 --> 0:32:18.080 the ship that Trump has done, he'll get away with. 0:32:18.520 --> 0:32:21.320 Understand that there's a method to the madness. Cuomo been 0:32:21.640 --> 0:32:24.000 the governor for all this time. Ain't nobody came out 0:32:24.040 --> 0:32:26.600 and said nothing. But because he's took his stance against 0:32:26.720 --> 0:32:29.320 the coronavirus, how he stood up for New York and 0:32:29.440 --> 0:32:31.360 he said maybe people had to wear masks and lock 0:32:31.440 --> 0:32:33.840 down the city and wooba woo and stop people from traveling. 0:32:34.080 --> 0:32:36.480 They're still out to get Quomo. That this is backlash 0:32:36.680 --> 0:32:38.960 from him being a man and standing his ground for 0:32:39.080 --> 0:32:42.760 being government last March fifteen last year. All this is 0:32:42.800 --> 0:32:46.120 just payback. Baby. I'm still team Cuomo. If you felt 0:32:46.160 --> 0:32:49.920 uncomfortable in the space, and I understand women, you know, 0:32:50.000 --> 0:32:52.600 if you if I'm in your personal space, if I'm 0:32:52.640 --> 0:32:56.000 touching you inappropriately, addressed that situation right then and there 0:32:56.440 --> 0:32:58.440 I'm not comfortable with you being this far up on me. 0:32:58.480 --> 0:33:00.680 I'm not comfortable with you touching me because we can 0:33:00.680 --> 0:33:02.080 do that now. You might not have been able to 0:33:02.080 --> 0:33:04.360 do that ten years ago, but women can do that 0:33:04.440 --> 0:33:06.760 now and they won't lose their job. They won't be 0:33:06.800 --> 0:33:08.600 they don't have to complain. So I'm not comfortable with 0:33:08.640 --> 0:33:10.680 you being in my space. This is my personal space, 0:33:10.680 --> 0:33:12.840 and I'm not comfortable. You can say that in a 0:33:12.880 --> 0:33:17.040 way to where your employer or your boss supposed to understand. 0:33:17.080 --> 0:33:19.640 I ain't said they're gonna always understand, but they're supposed 0:33:19.680 --> 0:33:21.800 to understand. But now all this ship is coming out. 0:33:22.000 --> 0:33:24.000 All this is a smoke screen, you know, kind of 0:33:24.040 --> 0:33:26.640 like they opened up this country Friday and gave out 0:33:27.240 --> 0:33:29.400 stimulus checks and told people, y'all can go take your 0:33:29.440 --> 0:33:32.440 mask off ghost shop. I drove past them all here Friday. 0:33:32.480 --> 0:33:35.040 It looked like it was Christmas. Understand that we're still 0:33:35.040 --> 0:33:38.440 living in a pandemic. The fact the coronavirus is running 0:33:38.520 --> 0:33:41.960 rampant Florida. It's gonna be right here along beach. Because 0:33:41.960 --> 0:33:45.560 they was at the mall shopping crazy. I drove past, 0:33:45.600 --> 0:33:50.440 I went to Big Lives. It was nobody in big um. 0:33:50.640 --> 0:33:53.600 I mean, I understand all of these news accusers are 0:33:53.600 --> 0:33:58.040 coming forward and everything and never denying anybody's experience of 0:33:58.080 --> 0:34:01.200 what you know they may have encountered. All I'm saying 0:34:01.320 --> 0:34:03.760 is I want this investigation to play out. I want 0:34:03.800 --> 0:34:06.360 Latisia James to do her job. I don't think that 0:34:06.400 --> 0:34:10.560 Andrew Cuomo should resign until the investigation is complete. I 0:34:10.600 --> 0:34:14.839 will absolutely say that. I know everybody from aoc UM too. 0:34:15.440 --> 0:34:17.920 I think Chuck Schumer, all of the top you know 0:34:18.040 --> 0:34:20.279 Democrats are kind of coming out to say he needs 0:34:20.320 --> 0:34:22.960 to resign. I think that Latisha James do her job, 0:34:23.080 --> 0:34:25.239 Let's see what happens, and then we can move forward 0:34:25.280 --> 0:34:29.239 from there. Those are my thoughts. Yeah, I think, UM, 0:34:29.280 --> 0:34:31.920 Just to kind of chime in on there, I think, UM, 0:34:31.960 --> 0:34:34.760 what I never want to do as a six three 0:34:34.760 --> 0:34:37.520 bald black man, I've never been in a situation where 0:34:37.560 --> 0:34:41.520 I have had my personal space threatened um by an 0:34:41.520 --> 0:34:44.040 employer where I had to feel uncomfortable. So I never 0:34:44.080 --> 0:34:46.520 want to sit here and act like I understand what 0:34:46.680 --> 0:34:48.960 women in the workplace go through, because I do believe 0:34:49.239 --> 0:34:51.600 that women in the workplace deserve to have a safe 0:34:51.600 --> 0:34:54.839 space to work and engage period, and if for any 0:34:54.840 --> 0:34:58.160 reason that is threatened or compromised, those who threatened or 0:34:58.200 --> 0:35:01.840 compromise that position need to be held accountable, regardless of 0:35:01.840 --> 0:35:05.960 political power, regardless of wealth, regardless of esteem, or regardless 0:35:05.960 --> 0:35:09.520 of title. Having said that, I also believe two different 0:35:09.520 --> 0:35:12.960 things are happening here. I think the Governor Cuomo unfortunately 0:35:13.000 --> 0:35:17.000 has lost the uh support he needs within his own 0:35:17.040 --> 0:35:20.680 caucus and from other Democrats. So as a leader, one 0:35:20.719 --> 0:35:23.120 has to wonder now if for the last eighteen months 0:35:23.120 --> 0:35:25.480 of this term it feels simply be a lame duck, 0:35:25.560 --> 0:35:28.680 not really able to push and move forward any legislation. 0:35:29.080 --> 0:35:31.600 And whether or not the investigation plays out one way 0:35:31.640 --> 0:35:34.120 or the other, that would be more or less for 0:35:34.200 --> 0:35:37.560 any type of legal action down the road. That's not 0:35:37.680 --> 0:35:40.640 my concern as much as what it is he's doing 0:35:40.760 --> 0:35:42.480 right now, whether or not he has to support from 0:35:42.480 --> 0:35:45.480 others within his legislature in order for him to continue 0:35:45.480 --> 0:35:48.600 to enact policy to you know, help advocate for the 0:35:48.680 --> 0:35:51.319 state of New York. I'm with Cuomo. Cuomo said that 0:35:51.560 --> 0:35:55.160 the politicians didn't elect me, the people did. This is 0:35:55.160 --> 0:35:57.880 the same ship they do into Joe Biden. Joe Biden 0:35:57.960 --> 0:36:01.120 been in office fifty three days, sound something sixty days 0:36:02.040 --> 0:36:04.799 if he if he tied his shoes a different way. 0:36:04.880 --> 0:36:07.359 Y'all ready to have a hissy fit. I'm telling you 0:36:07.600 --> 0:36:10.160 we got to pick and choose what's important. Y'all. Not 0:36:10.200 --> 0:36:12.320 picking it choosing what's important, you'll fight out a bullshit. 0:36:12.920 --> 0:36:14.640 I don't even know who these women are, and I 0:36:14.680 --> 0:36:16.120 don't care, and I want to see what they look like, 0:36:16.200 --> 0:36:19.399 cause Andrew Como is not an unattractive man. See it's 0:36:19.400 --> 0:36:21.000 all these ugly but let me start right here. Let 0:36:21.040 --> 0:36:22.879 me go back. A lot of these ugly bitches keep 0:36:22.880 --> 0:36:24.480 coming out of times of me and you attracted their 0:36:24.520 --> 0:36:26.799 men touch them. You should feels some of your ugly 0:36:26.840 --> 0:36:28.480 bit You should feel privileges that have made it touch 0:36:28.520 --> 0:36:30.800 it on you because ain nobody else, not in a 0:36:30.920 --> 0:36:38.080 light ship. You'll be kicking in here. Okay this laughing there, Yeah, okay. 0:36:38.120 --> 0:36:39.640 If we're trying to bring agains the folks, we don't 0:36:39.640 --> 0:37:02.040 bring you back. Look at look at this. You'll have me. 0:37:02.239 --> 0:37:05.160 He did. That's aw you in the comments. I was like, 0:37:05.360 --> 0:37:08.520 you got a shirt on. You really must be mad. 0:37:08.600 --> 0:37:12.759 Come on with come on, okay, let's start. I need 0:37:12.800 --> 0:37:15.000 a whole twenty minutes. This is you ain't getting that 0:37:16.680 --> 0:37:21.600 I can do it in fast listen, Kirk Franklin. Here's 0:37:21.600 --> 0:37:24.400 the problem with Kirk Franklin, and here's the hypocrisy, and 0:37:24.480 --> 0:37:26.960 from somebody who was again, as I've talked about before, 0:37:27.000 --> 0:37:29.560 I was the leadership out of Mega Church. I've crossed 0:37:29.560 --> 0:37:32.160 paths with Kirk Franklin. I've crossed paths with the Tony Max, 0:37:32.520 --> 0:37:35.319 the Joe old Steins. Now not that way. I know 0:37:35.320 --> 0:37:44.960 what you're about, you know, however, Kirk Franklin, let's uh, 0:37:45.520 --> 0:37:48.319 let's be honest, and I'm not saying anything more than this. Uh, 0:37:48.440 --> 0:37:50.520 you don't like yourself, which is why you're so mad 0:37:50.560 --> 0:37:53.560 at life. That's that's the first part. Second of all, 0:37:54.520 --> 0:37:57.839 when a normal person in the church can't even listen 0:37:57.880 --> 0:38:00.759 to secular music without having some sort of percussion in 0:38:00.840 --> 0:38:03.239 the form of you're not allowed to volunteer in this 0:38:03.320 --> 0:38:06.160 certain ministry. We're gonna put you on a sabbatical for 0:38:06.200 --> 0:38:08.880 this amount of time for listening to secular music. Or 0:38:08.920 --> 0:38:13.200 if you say a customerd and someone overhears you, he 0:38:13.239 --> 0:38:18.239 goes to the the is the same thing with what 0:38:18.360 --> 0:38:20.640 happened in New York with the Hill song in New 0:38:20.680 --> 0:38:24.520 York City pastor Carl Linson and Justin Bieber. Justin Bieber, 0:38:24.800 --> 0:38:27.480 he was making music about how yummy a women's gen 0:38:27.640 --> 0:38:30.879 Tell You was, but was leading worship at Carl Lyns's church. 0:38:31.000 --> 0:38:33.200 So it's the same thing. If you have a platform 0:38:33.239 --> 0:38:36.000 and if you're somebody big, it doesn't apply to you, 0:38:36.120 --> 0:38:38.719 apply to the normal person. So that's why he's getting 0:38:38.800 --> 0:38:42.000 so much backlash in my opinion, because it's not okay 0:38:42.000 --> 0:38:44.520 to do that behind closed doors, but then you would 0:38:44.520 --> 0:38:49.480 persecute somebody else who did that same thing. So that's 0:38:49.520 --> 0:38:52.280 why a lot of people are upset. And Kirk Franklin 0:38:52.360 --> 0:38:54.879 has a history of being an ass. He doesn't treat 0:38:54.920 --> 0:38:58.480 his wife well. I'm not gonna go further, but the 0:38:58.520 --> 0:39:01.000 point is he deserves it. And I see why his 0:39:01.080 --> 0:39:04.440 son did this. I see, well, apparently the son had 0:39:04.480 --> 0:39:06.160 been used to be and talked to like that, because 0:39:06.200 --> 0:39:09.600 who thinks to record the conversation. I'm telling you, this 0:39:09.640 --> 0:39:12.800 boy was accustomed to that. He just nobody probably believed 0:39:12.880 --> 0:39:14.960 him and he needed to prove it. So now he 0:39:15.040 --> 0:39:18.640 has proof. Yeah, I mean, that's fine. I just don't 0:39:18.680 --> 0:39:20.439 think he should have aired it for the world to hear. 0:39:20.480 --> 0:39:22.359 I mean, if you want proof and you want to 0:39:22.400 --> 0:39:27.799 maybe take legal action or whatever, whatever, I don't think 0:39:27.800 --> 0:39:30.319 you should air I don't care what happens. You don't 0:39:30.360 --> 0:39:33.000 air your family business out like that, even if you're upset, 0:39:33.600 --> 0:39:37.640 you just you just don't do that. And that was 0:39:37.680 --> 0:39:40.439 the land that we grew up on. Don't talk about 0:39:40.440 --> 0:39:42.240 my house, don't tell what going on in our house. 0:39:42.360 --> 0:39:44.839 But with reality TV and the world that we live 0:39:44.880 --> 0:39:48.359 in now everything body knows everything. But I'm not let 0:39:48.400 --> 0:39:50.240 me be clear that, let me clarify. I'm not saying 0:39:50.280 --> 0:39:52.600 be quiet about all family issues, because if there's some 0:39:52.680 --> 0:39:56.080 other things going on, abuse, sexual abuse, I'm not for 0:39:56.280 --> 0:39:57.840 keeping that private. If you need to bring that to 0:39:57.880 --> 0:40:00.960 the forefront to get the situation worked out. That's one thing. 0:40:01.320 --> 0:40:04.240 This is specific. I'm being very specific in this case 0:40:04.360 --> 0:40:08.719 saying that I don't agree with his son airing out 0:40:08.760 --> 0:40:10.960 whatever their conversation is for the public. I don't think 0:40:10.960 --> 0:40:13.959 he should have done that, no matter that perspect Maybe 0:40:15.760 --> 0:40:18.400 I see that, but I appreciate that he did. Be 0:40:18.440 --> 0:40:21.400 Kirk Franklin does have this ego and it's and you know, 0:40:21.440 --> 0:40:24.880 I'm really disappointed. And Natasha Cobbs coming out and supporting 0:40:24.960 --> 0:40:27.800 him and all of these people because it's it's the 0:40:28.120 --> 0:40:30.080 reason his son came out with this is to let 0:40:30.160 --> 0:40:33.279 people know what really goes on not only in their 0:40:33.320 --> 0:40:36.640 house and with their relationship. But in my opinion, the 0:40:36.719 --> 0:40:38.560 same thing with Joe Olstin. I'm waiting for stuff without 0:40:38.600 --> 0:40:39.920 Joe osen to come out, and when it comes out, 0:40:39.960 --> 0:40:45.319 I'm not going to feel that a little I need 0:40:45.320 --> 0:40:48.919 a little taste, don't you see in the movie don't 0:40:48.920 --> 0:40:51.360 give my mouth all right, you leave me a little swallowing, 0:40:52.800 --> 0:40:59.520 don't make a swallow Listen. I'm not about to have 0:40:59.560 --> 0:41:01.640 people out in reality know who's watching the past that 0:41:01.680 --> 0:41:07.960 I have one more thing to say about uh, Cheryl Underwood. Wait, 0:41:08.520 --> 0:41:10.400 I'll get to Clomo to say, I'll give this a 0:41:10.480 --> 0:41:13.600 very second Clombo response. But I feel bad for I 0:41:13.600 --> 0:41:15.520 don't feel bad for her Underwood because I think, like 0:41:15.560 --> 0:41:18.880 you said, she did great. But here's where Sharon Osborne 0:41:19.560 --> 0:41:22.680 fuck up when she put on those tears because automatically, 0:41:22.800 --> 0:41:25.840 automatically goes into the narrative of the angry black woman 0:41:26.120 --> 0:41:28.800 making a white woman cry, and America's gonna give sympathy 0:41:28.880 --> 0:41:31.319 to that white woman. And my problem is is that 0:41:32.239 --> 0:41:35.960 Cheryl was gracious and saying, I know you. I don't 0:41:36.000 --> 0:41:38.400 get this. I don't get these feelings from you, but 0:41:38.560 --> 0:41:43.040 understand the implication behind the approval, so to say, of 0:41:43.160 --> 0:41:46.600 Piers Morgan. And so when she put on those tears 0:41:46.640 --> 0:41:49.279 and made it about her, when have white people been 0:41:49.320 --> 0:41:52.640 oppressed or been done wrong in this country ever? So, 0:41:52.719 --> 0:41:57.160 how you have the audacity and the uh, the reason 0:41:57.200 --> 0:42:00.040 to cry is just beyond me. White people was a 0:42:00.160 --> 0:42:02.600 pressed and done wrong on January to six in the 0:42:02.640 --> 0:42:11.200 State of Georgia. Baby lives matter because we took it back. Baby, Seriously, 0:42:11.280 --> 0:42:15.120 how did you cry and turn out around? You're saying 0:42:15.200 --> 0:42:17.080 that As much as I think that Sharon was wrong, 0:42:17.200 --> 0:42:19.239 Sharon was right when she told Cherry, don't find that 0:42:19.280 --> 0:42:22.160 cram because Sherrol always does that. You got to go 0:42:22.239 --> 0:42:25.600 back and watch whenever Shul's back into the wall, Sheryl 0:42:25.640 --> 0:42:28.040 breaks out crying. She did that, shipped to me on 0:42:28.160 --> 0:42:30.520 coming of You two thousand five. So Sharon just beat 0:42:30.600 --> 0:42:32.759 up to the punch inside of craym first, because if 0:42:32.800 --> 0:42:35.359 Sherry would have started cram first, then black Americans would 0:42:35.360 --> 0:42:37.399 have took Sheryl sad. So it was just a matter 0:42:37.480 --> 0:42:39.839 who was gonna break down for Crow on demand. Place 0:42:43.440 --> 0:42:47.080 the water out of the bridge. I'm not and I'm not. 0:42:50.520 --> 0:42:53.440 I'm not a shirl. The way I'm saying to Mark's 0:42:53.480 --> 0:42:56.640 point is that's just what Sheryl does. Watch the talk. 0:42:57.080 --> 0:42:59.720 Cheryl will break out cram for no reason. She will 0:43:00.200 --> 0:43:04.279 every time it's something shut shut, Sharon lose her job 0:43:04.360 --> 0:43:07.200 or do you believe there's room for redemption. I don't 0:43:07.200 --> 0:43:10.480 think anyone should lose their job over I again, I'm 0:43:10.560 --> 0:43:14.399 so against the whole camel. However, here's what I got 0:43:14.520 --> 0:43:20.280 voted out exactly exactly. Um, here's my thing with Sharon. 0:43:20.320 --> 0:43:23.400 I don't think she should lose her job, but here's 0:43:23.440 --> 0:43:26.080 what I also see. She works on a cast full 0:43:26.120 --> 0:43:27.880 of diverse people, and we don't know what goes on 0:43:27.920 --> 0:43:31.200 off camera, and so if who knows, this could be 0:43:31.280 --> 0:43:33.759 a feeling that people do have about her, Even though 0:43:33.840 --> 0:43:35.360 Cheryl went on record saying, you know, I don't have 0:43:35.400 --> 0:43:38.319 these feelings that you're racist, but I do think there 0:43:38.520 --> 0:43:41.440 is a time and a place for a company production 0:43:41.560 --> 0:43:44.359 to to take a step back and say, can we 0:43:44.400 --> 0:43:46.839 move forward doing what we want to do and our 0:43:46.920 --> 0:43:51.160 vision for the show with this person? Given this resspon 0:43:52.640 --> 0:43:55.680 and given what's going on right now, and so if 0:43:55.719 --> 0:43:58.279 that means she loses her job, then you know what 0:43:58.360 --> 0:44:00.200 when you are on a talk show and you don't 0:44:00.239 --> 0:44:02.840 think twice about what you're seeing. And again, this is 0:44:02.880 --> 0:44:06.640 not You're not the victims here, someone's giving their story. 0:44:06.800 --> 0:44:09.680 Megan said she felt that the Palace or whoever those 0:44:09.680 --> 0:44:12.520 people are, they're racist. Why are you discrediting that that 0:44:12.600 --> 0:44:15.920 wasn't your experience? She shut Megan. They give him none 0:44:15.960 --> 0:44:19.239 of that black girl magic. But let me ask you this, though, Mark, 0:44:19.320 --> 0:44:22.480 because although Cheryl came out and said that, I'm also 0:44:22.560 --> 0:44:25.479 thinking too, was there truth behind what she was saying 0:44:25.480 --> 0:44:28.000 about Sharon or was she just more so concerned about 0:44:28.040 --> 0:44:30.479 giving her an out and maybe helping her save her job. 0:44:30.760 --> 0:44:32.960 And I'm only saying that because of what Holly Robinson 0:44:32.960 --> 0:44:36.040 Pete said. So how how truthful was that statement is 0:44:36.080 --> 0:44:40.400 my next question? Yeah, I think that I think Cheryl again, 0:44:40.440 --> 0:44:42.200 and here's why I went back to bringing up the 0:44:42.239 --> 0:44:44.640 tears part. I think Cheryl was in a tricky position 0:44:44.640 --> 0:44:46.719 and why she did so good and she couldn't really 0:44:47.160 --> 0:44:50.080 go even deeper as a lot of us wanted her to, 0:44:50.600 --> 0:44:53.040 is because the narrative would have played out even worse 0:44:53.040 --> 0:44:55.520 than it already is. And so I do think Cheryl, 0:44:55.719 --> 0:44:57.480 in the back of her mind was like, let me 0:44:57.520 --> 0:45:00.200 give a little bit of grace and safe face for TV, 0:45:00.680 --> 0:45:02.480 and that's why she did that. But I wouldn't be 0:45:02.520 --> 0:45:05.680 surprised if Sharon, I mean didn't. Wasn't her daughter, the 0:45:05.680 --> 0:45:08.359 one who, like I was talking about Trump a few 0:45:08.560 --> 0:45:11.080 years ago and was talking about Mexicans are the one 0:45:11.080 --> 0:45:15.239 who cleaned your house? Like just made a fucking stupid Yeah, 0:45:15.320 --> 0:45:22.160 the little fat one like she is, she is funny. 0:45:22.200 --> 0:45:36.719 Look help you mean? I think that's the difference. You 0:45:36.800 --> 0:45:43.560 can't defend people. This is what I think. This is 0:45:43.560 --> 0:45:46.120 where the line is between like what Kelly Osborne, I 0:45:46.120 --> 0:45:50.759 think that's her name. She said. I considered that. I 0:45:50.800 --> 0:45:54.880 considered that racially and sensitive. I don't think that was 0:45:54.920 --> 0:45:57.520 a racist comment, but it was racially insensitive. But I 0:45:57.560 --> 0:46:00.719 wouldn't be surprised if behind closed doors, like that's how 0:46:00.760 --> 0:46:04.120 they talk about different people of different cultures that understand 0:46:04.160 --> 0:46:07.919 mark that it's not racially insensitive. They're racists if they're 0:46:07.920 --> 0:46:10.200 doing it at home, behind closed doors, and then you 0:46:10.320 --> 0:46:12.879 take it out publicly eventually, if you do it at 0:46:12.880 --> 0:46:15.239 home long enough, it is going to go into your 0:46:15.280 --> 0:46:18.239 real life under this is what happened with the whole 0:46:18.280 --> 0:46:20.239 back to the Kirk Franklin thing. If it happens at 0:46:20.280 --> 0:46:23.319 home enough, eventually the world is going to find out 0:46:23.360 --> 0:46:27.719 about it. Kelly, Uh, the Osborne's whatever they're practicing at home, 0:46:27.840 --> 0:46:31.319 the ship is just resonating. Sharon Osborne was foul, She 0:46:31.480 --> 0:46:33.960 was wrong. She tried to say where she did corner Shure. 0:46:34.040 --> 0:46:35.680 I did love that part when she told, sure, don't 0:46:35.680 --> 0:46:37.560 sign that crying because I got to be the first 0:46:37.560 --> 0:46:38.799 one of crap it so they can fall in love 0:46:38.840 --> 0:46:41.359 with me first I get there. I understand you. This 0:46:41.440 --> 0:46:43.440 is a game of chess, and I don't want to 0:46:43.480 --> 0:46:46.240 lose my job. That's what that was all about, because 0:46:46.239 --> 0:46:48.480 Sherlwood they were to have fired sherl Sherlotte is a 0:46:48.560 --> 0:46:51.319 black woman on that show, and she wasn't the last 0:46:51.360 --> 0:46:53.879 high And even though I think that show is irreplaceable 0:46:53.920 --> 0:46:56.040 on the Talk because I love her on there, whenever 0:46:56.080 --> 0:46:58.600 I do decide to watch it, that don't mean that 0:46:58.640 --> 0:47:00.840 they won't get rid of her ass. Because the climate 0:47:00.880 --> 0:47:02.640 that we live in and the racism that is so 0:47:02.680 --> 0:47:05.640 prevalent in this country right now on the Trump's regime, 0:47:05.880 --> 0:47:07.759 even though that nigga is still gone, but he still 0:47:07.760 --> 0:47:10.239 got a power. They were to fire Sheerl. Sharyl was 0:47:10.280 --> 0:47:12.480 smart and the way she handed that she was very tactic. 0:47:13.000 --> 0:47:16.640 Sharon Osborne, Sharon Osborne was just racist and she didn't 0:47:16.640 --> 0:47:19.440 want to admit that. Pierce Pierce Morgan, not only was 0:47:19.480 --> 0:47:22.759 he did he make racist, disparaging comments, but he he 0:47:23.200 --> 0:47:25.440 showed that he was a broken man because if you 0:47:25.440 --> 0:47:28.120 don't even like black women, you couldn't get this black 0:47:28.160 --> 0:47:30.719 woman to go with you. And you, Pierce Morgan, you rich, 0:47:30.800 --> 0:47:33.319 you wipe, you powerful, you gotta show. But she didn't 0:47:33.320 --> 0:47:36.360 want your ass, except that she didn't want your ass, nigga, 0:47:36.480 --> 0:47:38.719 and keep it pushing, because that's all that is. She 0:47:38.760 --> 0:47:42.640 didn't want you. She wanted a prince here. And and 0:47:42.800 --> 0:47:46.040 Cheryl said it just exactly right. She said, it's the implicate. 0:47:46.120 --> 0:47:48.920 It's not necessarily that you're seeing something racist, it's what 0:47:48.960 --> 0:47:51.640 you're implying. And the same thing with you know what 0:47:52.080 --> 0:47:55.200 I started on Pierce Morgan's ass last week was he said, 0:47:55.239 --> 0:47:57.919 you know, people might have this conversation about what color 0:47:58.000 --> 0:48:00.680 their baby might look like. People do say that, like, 0:48:01.200 --> 0:48:04.440 that's you, that's you literally giving a dog whistle to somebody, 0:48:04.840 --> 0:48:07.200 like making them feel like it's okay that this is happening. 0:48:07.280 --> 0:48:09.960 Like no one says that, like I can never imagine 0:48:10.120 --> 0:48:12.359 a family having that. Well wait a minute, mark, because 0:48:12.400 --> 0:48:14.040 if me and you had a baby together and the 0:48:14.080 --> 0:48:17.080 baby came out navy, purple, blue, black, I'm gonna think 0:48:17.080 --> 0:48:18.880 that you was cheating on me because I'm like brown 0:48:19.000 --> 0:48:22.760 and you like skiing. Baby should be at least somewhere. 0:48:24.719 --> 0:48:29.320 But that's that's that's after the fact. That's after the fact, 0:48:29.400 --> 0:48:32.600 not before. And then again like with the whole title situation, 0:48:32.640 --> 0:48:34.279 which I don't know how the monarchy whatever you call 0:48:34.320 --> 0:48:36.680 them work, but period. And I'm just gonna wrap up 0:48:36.680 --> 0:48:40.719 with this thirty seconds about Andrew Cuomo. Andrew Cuomo has 0:48:40.760 --> 0:48:44.680 a long history of this behavior, and it's I know 0:48:44.800 --> 0:48:48.960 someone personally who's been impacted by it, and I it's 0:48:48.960 --> 0:48:51.080 not my place to say anything, but I think the 0:48:51.080 --> 0:48:53.440 problem you keep giving out too many tangibles and then 0:48:53.520 --> 0:48:55.279 not giving out the information. I'm gonna come to your 0:48:55.320 --> 0:48:59.719 house and fight you when you come over. When you 0:48:59.800 --> 0:49:02.279 come over, you get every everything you get the tea. 0:49:02.360 --> 0:49:08.440 But my thing with Cuomo is would get it all baby. 0:49:08.480 --> 0:49:16.760 I liked it, I said thirty seconds. Listen, Cuomo messed 0:49:16.800 --> 0:49:20.920 up when he ousted the previous eternal attorney general because 0:49:21.000 --> 0:49:24.400 when allegation came out one by the way, he said 0:49:24.640 --> 0:49:27.359 that he needed to resign and step down. And so 0:49:27.440 --> 0:49:30.040 that is clarma binding him in the ass. Because now 0:49:30.200 --> 0:49:34.280 you have seven people, one person with a very incredible story. 0:49:34.320 --> 0:49:37.200 A lot of people are pointing to um, there's a 0:49:37.360 --> 0:49:39.920 supposedly footage, and people who were there and aware of 0:49:39.920 --> 0:49:43.000 what was going on, we're taking videos and pictures. Cuomo 0:49:43.120 --> 0:49:45.360 now is foot is in his mouth because this is 0:49:45.400 --> 0:49:47.480 what you said before and this is not what you're 0:49:47.480 --> 0:49:51.840 saying about yourself. And so with Cuomo, you know again 0:49:51.880 --> 0:49:53.919 I don't like politicians. And the fact that he made 0:49:53.920 --> 0:49:57.080 the comment. You know, I'm not part of the political 0:49:57.280 --> 0:49:59.799 game or I'm not in the political circle. You've been 0:49:59.800 --> 0:50:02.879 in politics your entire life. You've handed the position from 0:50:02.880 --> 0:50:06.120 your given your father's record. Let me just say that. 0:50:06.440 --> 0:50:08.880 So don't act like you're not a dirty swamp creature, 0:50:08.920 --> 0:50:14.480 because you are. Chris Pam won't come to your house 0:50:14.520 --> 0:50:19.800 and let me let's listen, de legitimize people still got elected. 0:50:21.239 --> 0:50:24.399 Come on, Mark, we can't de legitimize that he did. 0:50:24.440 --> 0:50:27.799 The people did still elect him. They still elected him. 0:50:27.840 --> 0:50:29.680 And I mean, but it is a legacy thing. I 0:50:29.680 --> 0:50:32.520 will give you that. You know, Okay, his father was 0:50:32.560 --> 0:50:35.360 a beloved governor before him, but the people still elected 0:50:35.400 --> 0:50:37.879 Cuomo too. We gotta give him that. I just think 0:50:37.920 --> 0:50:40.239 that again it's karma binding him in the ask And 0:50:40.320 --> 0:50:44.040 my problem is really when you listen to him talk 0:50:44.080 --> 0:50:46.560 about it, and when the press tries to ask him questions, 0:50:47.040 --> 0:50:50.520 it's his ego that's at the at the front line. 0:50:51.440 --> 0:50:56.000 Were just there were four years of a nightmare. But 0:50:56.080 --> 0:50:58.759 I attacked him, but I attacked to him. I'm gonna 0:50:59.760 --> 0:51:02.520 get I don't outside listen. I don't. I don't. I 0:51:02.560 --> 0:51:04.839 don't have side. You know this about me? I don't. 0:51:05.239 --> 0:51:08.120 I can call out the clown, but again I also 0:51:08.160 --> 0:51:10.279 will call out Cuomo. And this is the thing. The 0:51:10.400 --> 0:51:13.560 fear cannot be of who might take his position. It's 0:51:13.640 --> 0:51:15.920 the fact that we need to and I'm always say this. 0:51:16.000 --> 0:51:18.240 I said the same thing with Kavanaugh. Yes, the process 0:51:18.280 --> 0:51:20.560 needs to play out. But the tricky part for Cuomo 0:51:20.640 --> 0:51:22.759 right now is what he said on record before. So 0:51:22.800 --> 0:51:26.200 that's all I'm gonna say. But wait a minute, and 0:51:26.200 --> 0:51:28.400 we're gonna hold people accountable for ship they see it 0:51:28.400 --> 0:51:30.799 in the past. Oh my god, I want to even 0:51:30.800 --> 0:51:32.360 be sitting here right now. In fact, I'm even in 0:51:32.400 --> 0:51:34.560 two minutes anyway, but I wouldn't be saying here. But 0:51:34.640 --> 0:51:38.800 if I saying some outrageous shit, that should I regret 0:51:38.880 --> 0:51:41.600 some though. But I'm not a politician, but I am 0:51:41.640 --> 0:51:44.520 in the public eye, and I'm not knocking Cuomo for 0:51:44.640 --> 0:51:46.760 what he said because at the time that's how he felt. 0:51:47.280 --> 0:51:49.360 I'm not saying that what is true or not you 0:51:49.440 --> 0:51:51.319 because I'm not one of those women that accused him 0:51:51.320 --> 0:51:54.000 and I wasn't there. But I'm giving Cuomo the benefit 0:51:54.040 --> 0:51:55.799 of the doubt because what I'm what I'm trying to 0:51:55.800 --> 0:51:57.879 get people to understand that to see is that if 0:51:57.880 --> 0:51:59.680 we do this to Cuomo, we're gonna do this to 0:51:59.800 --> 0:52:02.040 Joe Line. Joe By have been the president for sixty days. 0:52:02.200 --> 0:52:04.040 What are we gonna through just counsel everybody make a 0:52:04.040 --> 0:52:07.719 fucking mistake. Well no, because look with Joe Biden, what 0:52:07.800 --> 0:52:09.799 had happened when they when that who was that that 0:52:09.800 --> 0:52:14.680 that lady who came out yes, I said, Listen, I 0:52:14.719 --> 0:52:16.759 don't like this. He's been in politics for how long, 0:52:16.800 --> 0:52:18.239 and all of a sudden you're coming out. And I 0:52:18.239 --> 0:52:20.280 got in trouble for that because I'm not a female. 0:52:20.320 --> 0:52:21.680 I don't know what it's like to come out with 0:52:21.719 --> 0:52:24.400 my story. So I get that aspect of it. But 0:52:24.440 --> 0:52:26.080 I said the same thing with Kavanaugh. I said, I'm 0:52:26.080 --> 0:52:28.320 gonna say the same thing with Colombo. Yes do process 0:52:28.400 --> 0:52:31.120 is important because you don't want to set a culture 0:52:31.160 --> 0:52:33.319 where someone could come out and say something and you're 0:52:33.320 --> 0:52:36.000 automatically guilty. That's not what our system was set up for. However, 0:52:36.320 --> 0:52:39.000 when you say two years ago that this person needs 0:52:39.000 --> 0:52:41.120 to resign and he was so in the front line 0:52:41.160 --> 0:52:43.520 about all these other people and now ships and your 0:52:43.520 --> 0:52:45.960 happening in your backyard, and you have a different opinion, 0:52:46.239 --> 0:52:48.480 that's the problem that you know what that's going to do, though, Mark, 0:52:48.560 --> 0:52:50.759 That's going to open up the floodgates for everybody to 0:52:50.760 --> 0:52:52.600 start just to you want to get rid of somebody 0:52:52.719 --> 0:52:55.880 just have a woman accused him of being inappropriate. Where 0:52:55.880 --> 0:52:58.120 where do we stop it? Where do we draw the line? 0:52:58.160 --> 0:53:00.239 Because some people may be telling the truth and some 0:53:00.280 --> 0:53:01.880 people may just make up a lie to get rid 0:53:01.920 --> 0:53:04.160 of you. We have to find out like they say, 0:53:04.400 --> 0:53:06.759 you're innocent and too a proven guilty. But that's not 0:53:06.800 --> 0:53:09.720 the case here. Everybody is guilty now until proven innocent. 0:53:10.560 --> 0:53:13.000 Well that's why we say, let Laticia James do her job. 0:53:13.160 --> 0:53:15.560 Unlet's see what happens. Let's just let's let this play out. 0:53:15.640 --> 0:53:17.720 Let it play out, unless see what receives come forward, 0:53:17.800 --> 0:53:21.000 what the investigation says. And I'm very comfortable with the 0:53:21.040 --> 0:53:27.480 fact that Latisia James and the special uh investigator or prosecutor. Yeah, 0:53:27.680 --> 0:53:31.120 that person has a pass of taking down formal allies. 0:53:31.160 --> 0:53:33.600 So I do think we will get a fair investigation 0:53:33.640 --> 0:53:36.800 into what happened. Well, we thank you you hands. I 0:53:36.840 --> 0:53:40.799 will see you in two weeks, right, oh yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, 0:53:40.880 --> 0:53:42.880 thank you Mark. I want you with a T shirt 0:53:42.960 --> 0:53:47.200 and no panties zone. Yeah, lord, Mark, do me a favor. 0:53:47.239 --> 0:53:49.239 And because I don't know how to get people out 0:53:49.280 --> 0:53:54.000 of here, thank you, thank you, thank you Mark. That's Florida. 0:53:55.120 --> 0:53:57.440 I think the title of this show will be Swamp Creature. 0:54:01.680 --> 0:54:05.359 I love you, I love you, Lorie Hogan. I gotta 0:54:05.400 --> 0:54:07.879 show to do. I gotta go. Yeah, black travel Black 0:54:07.920 --> 0:54:10.239 can I don't see y'all next week. We maybe we 0:54:10.320 --> 0:54:12.319 do love lounge snick because I got the similarst check 0:54:12.360 --> 0:54:14.000 you'll act of funny, but I gotta show to do 0:54:14.480 --> 0:54:17.000 uh with white folks with Mr white Man, Miss white 0:54:17.000 --> 0:54:18.719 Man said coming here, and Miss white Man paying a 0:54:18.719 --> 0:54:20.439 little bit more than y'all paying today, So I'm out. 0:54:20.560 --> 0:54:27.319 I love you Lauren? Hey, damn? How are you are 0:54:27.320 --> 0:54:30.480 you doing? I'm good? How are you, Laurie? Hi? Neck? Hey, 0:54:30.480 --> 0:54:32.480 good to see you. Good, see you too? So are 0:54:32.520 --> 0:54:40.759 you jumping that rope? Being all fancy? It ain't no joke. 0:54:40.840 --> 0:54:43.360 Don't play with it. Don't play with it. We're losing 0:54:43.360 --> 0:54:45.560 too many people. We talk to us about it. We 0:54:45.640 --> 0:54:47.960 brought up a couple of conversations and topics today. I 0:54:48.000 --> 0:54:51.440 want to know your thoughts sound off for us? Well, Uh, 0:54:51.560 --> 0:54:55.320 the Cuomo saying, let's look at it like this. Hey, everybody, 0:54:55.600 --> 0:54:58.000 we're talking about it. I think a political hit is 0:54:58.040 --> 0:55:02.520 going on. Um, sure, Cuomo is part of a They're 0:55:02.560 --> 0:55:05.040 all part of political machines. I think that's what we 0:55:05.120 --> 0:55:10.960 don't read. Uh, we don't remember that they're are debts 0:55:10.960 --> 0:55:14.920 that have to be paid. People have to realize that, Uh, 0:55:14.960 --> 0:55:17.880 people did things before that they didn't like and people 0:55:17.960 --> 0:55:21.839 hold grudges, and you know, things are timed a certain way. 0:55:22.280 --> 0:55:23.960 So I think this is a First of all, I 0:55:24.000 --> 0:55:27.640 think this is a political hit. Second of all, let's 0:55:27.760 --> 0:55:31.360 just wait for the investigation to come out, because I 0:55:31.440 --> 0:55:35.279 heard this interesting thing you know about politicians. It's like, uh, 0:55:35.360 --> 0:55:41.919 innocent and a politician, are they? They don't go together? True, true, 0:55:43.160 --> 0:55:49.200 diametrically opposed to one another. Absolutely got you. Yeah, yeah, 0:55:49.360 --> 0:55:51.560 So you know, that's just how it is. But it's 0:55:51.680 --> 0:55:55.320 very interesting about the timing of all these allegations that 0:55:55.600 --> 0:55:57.680 you know, he was the hero last year and now 0:55:57.760 --> 0:56:01.000 he's the dirt under people's seat. And you know, but 0:56:01.040 --> 0:56:02.920 you know one thing about Cuomo. He don't run from 0:56:02.960 --> 0:56:06.520 a fight. He don't play no games. It's like, come on, 0:56:06.640 --> 0:56:09.400 come get me. Let's see how this plays outam. I 0:56:09.440 --> 0:56:11.680 think what's also interesting is how we've seen so many 0:56:11.760 --> 0:56:14.680 people pile on. I watched this diet try from Bill 0:56:14.760 --> 0:56:17.480 de Blasio because if you remember, Cuomo went after Bill 0:56:17.520 --> 0:56:20.799 de Blasio when Bill de Blasio wasn't doing so well 0:56:20.800 --> 0:56:22.960 in New York. Not that he's super popular now, but 0:56:23.080 --> 0:56:26.319 Bill de Blasio, all his behavior absolutely disgusted me and 0:56:26.360 --> 0:56:29.640 he needs I was like, whoa, Let's let's just clarify 0:56:29.719 --> 0:56:31.880 that though I don't know if any mayor in the 0:56:31.920 --> 0:56:34.400 City of New York that is liked Okay, all mayors 0:56:34.400 --> 0:56:36.040 get booed in the City of New York. Let's just 0:56:36.120 --> 0:56:40.160 let's be honest about that. Okay. Eventually, Pam, I want 0:56:40.160 --> 0:56:41.600 to get you the sound out for me. I do 0:56:41.680 --> 0:56:43.960 want your opinion. Do you believe in a situation like 0:56:43.960 --> 0:56:46.840 a Sharon Osbourne, is there redemption or do you're like, 0:56:46.920 --> 0:56:49.840 what are your thoughts on the Osbourne underwe situation? You 0:56:49.880 --> 0:56:54.120 know what to I want to emphasize everyone, let's when 0:56:54.120 --> 0:56:59.880 we see these things, let's look at the entire interview. 0:57:01.160 --> 0:57:06.799 Let's look at the entire show, not these chopped up 0:57:08.480 --> 0:57:12.440 bits and and um clips, because that's a part of 0:57:12.440 --> 0:57:18.120 the manipulation. Look at the whole entire thing, and then 0:57:18.200 --> 0:57:20.720 let's talk about it. Okay. But anyway, from when I 0:57:20.760 --> 0:57:24.120 saw girl, honey, she she she she, she welpt like 0:57:24.200 --> 0:57:29.600 a hit dog got hit by truck. Immediately immediately, even 0:57:29.640 --> 0:57:33.480 with the preface of Cheryl saying, look, you're my friend, 0:57:34.400 --> 0:57:39.520 I know how you think, she still went off. You know, 0:57:39.760 --> 0:57:42.440 her friend. I know she's friends with Pierce Morgan. She's 0:57:42.480 --> 0:57:44.800 probably she's been friends with Pierce Morgan's for a hundred 0:57:44.880 --> 0:57:46.920 years before she even got on the view, I mean, 0:57:46.960 --> 0:57:51.120 on the talk. But she did not understand where they 0:57:51.200 --> 0:57:54.520 all heard her mates were coming from. And I think 0:57:54.600 --> 0:57:56.520 when she goes back and looks at it, and I 0:57:56.560 --> 0:57:59.240 think maybe that's why she apologized to I am gonna 0:57:59.240 --> 0:58:02.080 give her a benefit of the doubt on that, and 0:58:02.080 --> 0:58:05.479 she shouldn't, but she should look at her really look 0:58:05.520 --> 0:58:09.760 at her behavior, look at her response. Anallized it herself, 0:58:10.080 --> 0:58:12.280 look at herself. You know how you you and Lauren 0:58:12.480 --> 0:58:15.480 and then and you guys look at yourself on tape 0:58:15.600 --> 0:58:18.480 right to to see I know, Nick, probably you do 0:58:18.720 --> 0:58:20.600 when you had your other days, when you were in 0:58:20.640 --> 0:58:23.640 another line, you look at yourself to see what was 0:58:23.680 --> 0:58:25.800 going on with yourself, what you said, how you said, 0:58:25.920 --> 0:58:28.840 what's your response was? What can I do better? I 0:58:28.880 --> 0:58:30.439 think a lot of these people they need to look 0:58:30.480 --> 0:58:33.400 at themselves and how they're coming off, because when you're 0:58:33.400 --> 0:58:37.480 in the moment, you don't realize, hey, you know, and 0:58:37.520 --> 0:58:38.960 then you go back and look at it, like, oh 0:58:39.000 --> 0:58:41.640 my goodness, I went off. I did I said this. 0:58:41.920 --> 0:58:44.760 My reaction was a little maybe I need to check myself. 0:58:44.880 --> 0:58:47.240 Maybe I need to think about what I said, or 0:58:47.280 --> 0:58:49.520 how I did, or how I respond. And I think 0:58:49.560 --> 0:58:52.120 more than anything in those situations like that too. Um 0:58:52.200 --> 0:58:54.160 and then I'll go ahead and wrap it up. It's 0:58:54.200 --> 0:58:56.280 one of those things where I don't understand why people 0:58:56.320 --> 0:58:58.800 can at least try to hear what the person is 0:58:58.800 --> 0:59:04.400 saying and at least give of friends like you that's Lauren. 0:59:04.440 --> 0:59:07.040 There you go, all right, there you go, yep, yep, 0:59:08.000 --> 0:59:10.840 because I'm thinking that you're simply telling me. I think 0:59:10.840 --> 0:59:12.959 one of the things that bothered me most with all 0:59:13.000 --> 0:59:16.360 of that is how quickly people were ready to dismiss 0:59:16.400 --> 0:59:19.680 Let's forget about the baby color, the fact that here's 0:59:19.680 --> 0:59:21.760 this woman saying I was having a mental health issue. 0:59:21.960 --> 0:59:23.640 Oh no, you weren't. Shut up. Get out of here, 0:59:23.640 --> 0:59:25.520 get out here with that. This is why we don't 0:59:25.520 --> 0:59:27.800 talk about it. This is why people are ashamed to say. 0:59:27.800 --> 0:59:29.680 You know, I'm Lauren, I'm not feeling that wealthy. I'm 0:59:29.680 --> 0:59:32.240 a little down. Hey, let me just check on you. 0:59:32.240 --> 0:59:34.400 You're gonna attack me. You want to attack me for 0:59:34.520 --> 0:59:38.200 feeling my feelings instead of saying having a moment of 0:59:38.320 --> 0:59:41.439 empathy and thought, and then after the person tells you more, 0:59:41.520 --> 0:59:43.520 if you feel like you got to attack them or 0:59:43.560 --> 0:59:46.680 think left of very motion, then you do it, but 0:59:47.920 --> 0:59:50.240 ready to jump on it. It's like, you're gonna tell 0:59:50.280 --> 0:59:53.240 me that I don't feel like I was being attacked. 0:59:53.280 --> 0:59:55.400 You don't want to tell me my feelings, Well, this 0:59:55.480 --> 0:59:57.320 is tell me my feeling. Well that's what I'm I think, 0:59:57.360 --> 0:59:59.040 that's what we're all trying to express. Your pam is 0:59:59.040 --> 1:00:02.080 a simple fact that Sharon probably never had to think 1:00:02.120 --> 1:00:04.160 about that. She never really had to think about her 1:00:04.160 --> 1:00:06.760 repercussions because when she had that privilege and she had 1:00:06.800 --> 1:00:09.600 that status on that network, she never had to think 1:00:09.640 --> 1:00:12.280 about it, nor did she feel like, oh, I'm gonna 1:00:12.280 --> 1:00:14.760 get all this backlash around this. It took her coming 1:00:14.800 --> 1:00:17.240 after a minute. Megan Markle that all of a sudden, 1:00:17.240 --> 1:00:19.520 now she's trying to re evaluate everything. But that goes 1:00:19.600 --> 1:00:22.120 to what I said earlier in terms of it's not 1:00:22.160 --> 1:00:24.160 our job to have to educate people. You should have 1:00:24.240 --> 1:00:26.880 known that. That's what privilege gets you to get you 1:00:26.920 --> 1:00:29.720 in these situations where now you've got to address how 1:00:29.760 --> 1:00:31.680 you're actually acting and how you've been and what you've 1:00:31.680 --> 1:00:33.800 been doing towards other people. So it was just her time. 1:00:34.000 --> 1:00:38.200 It was her. And you know what, the ass always 1:00:38.320 --> 1:00:41.520 rises to the top, the cream, the cream I will 1:00:41.560 --> 1:00:44.320 eventually rise to the top. You gotta look at you 1:00:44.320 --> 1:00:46.040 can't act like the cream ain't there. Oh I don't 1:00:46.080 --> 1:00:49.680 see the cream. I don't see the ship. I eventually 1:00:49.680 --> 1:00:51.560 you've got to see it and you gotta smell it 1:00:51.840 --> 1:00:55.320 and acknowledge it and your owness and it. But exactly, 1:00:55.440 --> 1:00:58.000 But that's the problem, a big It's like no one 1:00:59.320 --> 1:01:03.480 if the first if your first reaction is to yelped 1:01:03.560 --> 1:01:06.040 like a dog, then you've got some examining to do 1:01:07.640 --> 1:01:10.800 for yourself. And there's nothing wrong with that. That's what 1:01:10.880 --> 1:01:13.320 we need to do. We need more than talking about 1:01:13.320 --> 1:01:17.439 We've got to examine our ship. On our ship. Everybody does, 1:01:18.000 --> 1:01:24.320 especially white people, than their stuff, period, all right, and 1:01:24.360 --> 1:01:31.080 everybody got on they stop, Pam, I love you by bye, y'all. 1:01:31.080 --> 1:01:32.520 Not note. I mean, I think we can kind of 1:01:32.520 --> 1:01:34.760 wrap up. I know we had some other topics to discuss, 1:01:34.800 --> 1:01:36.680 but I don't think there's any problem with rolling over 1:01:36.880 --> 1:01:38.920 to next week because they're still gonna be relevant next 1:01:38.960 --> 1:01:43.240 week anyway. So yeah, you know, one of them. Again, 1:01:43.320 --> 1:01:45.160 I just want everyone to know that if you liked 1:01:45.200 --> 1:01:47.480 what people have to say, or if you have something 1:01:47.520 --> 1:01:49.600 that we miss, we do want you to comment on 1:01:49.600 --> 1:01:52.920 the show and make sure that you leave that comment, 1:01:53.080 --> 1:01:55.080 you know, because that helps people to find the show. 1:01:55.320 --> 1:01:57.360 So we really enjoyed that because at the end of 1:01:57.360 --> 1:01:58.960 the day, like we talked about all the time with 1:01:59.080 --> 1:02:01.600 Flame when she is here, we are not trying to 1:02:01.600 --> 1:02:04.640 get anybody to change their mind. We're simply only trying 1:02:04.640 --> 1:02:07.000 to get you guys to use your mind. And more importantly, 1:02:07.040 --> 1:02:09.240 we appreciate you guys coming in to participate in this 1:02:09.320 --> 1:02:11.520 show because without you guys, we wouldn't have a show. 1:02:11.760 --> 1:02:14.080 It's really the feedback that we get from you guys, 1:02:14.120 --> 1:02:16.880 you know, the suggestions, the d m s, all of that. 1:02:16.920 --> 1:02:19.920 We appreciate it. And I know sometimes we don't respond, 1:02:20.080 --> 1:02:21.880 but we we try to look at it because we 1:02:21.960 --> 1:02:25.240 all got a lot going on, but we appreciate the input. Yeah, 1:02:25.280 --> 1:02:28.360 we definitely appreciate the input. So where can everybody find you? 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