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Speaker 5: of one skill less peace.
Speaker 2: One Detroit story.
Speaker 6: I've been dying to know that I haven't asked anyone
Speaker 6: well versed in sports or from the area, is where
Speaker 6: were you on November nineteen, two thousand and four.
Speaker 2: Malice at the Palace.
Speaker 7: Malice at the Palace? Oh man, I knew you were
Speaker 7: going here. I was like, it's gonna probably be about
Speaker 7: malice for the Palace.
Speaker 6: Yeah, there is no sports besides Jordan Highlight real.
Speaker 2: Films on YouTube.
Speaker 6: I watched that religiously, like I know every frame of
Speaker 6: that brawl.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, so Malice at the Palace? What was this?
Speaker 7: So Malice at the Palace was? It was a scrap
Speaker 7: like you know, now call the NBA fight something you like?
Speaker 7: These just too motherfucker's backpler Like, no, Malice at the
Speaker 7: Palace is why you don't see scraps in the NBA anymore?
Speaker 4: Have you seen I've never seen it. I didn't know
Speaker 4: what it was.
Speaker 7: I don't know if they show it.
Speaker 6: It is by far the worst fight I've ever seen
Speaker 6: an NBA history.
Speaker 3: It's magical.
Speaker 7: You'll have to text in the footage because it's like
Speaker 7: completely magical.
Speaker 6: It's it's going to be its own thirty for thirty episode.
Speaker 2: I feel it.
Speaker 7: Well, I don't think it will the only reason something like, well,
Speaker 7: something I learned at ESPN is that the NBA is
Speaker 7: extremely strict about you. It's a reason you don't see
Speaker 7: malice from the Palace footage like ever, like you see
Speaker 7: it in the Pistons dock.
Speaker 3: I think you saw it, like the Bad Boys. I
Speaker 3: feel like I think it might.
Speaker 7: Be in it might have been in there, but like
Speaker 7: you don't really see it because the NBA does not
Speaker 7: allow clearance of the footage of that. Because I remember
Speaker 7: when I was, yeah, when I was at the when
Speaker 7: I was at ESPN, it was a five year anniversary,
Speaker 7: and it was some things I wanted to do with
Speaker 7: talking about the fight, and I couldn't do them because
Speaker 7: the NBA would not give ESPN permission to do this.
Speaker 3: So they tried to like this did not happen.
Speaker 7: Thomas like Pistons, Like no, no, this was this was
Speaker 7: the Pistons era with Rip Hamilton and Ben Wallace, uh
Speaker 7: Tayshaun Prince Rashe Wallace. Oh yeah, so what happened was
Speaker 7: this It's like Indiana at this point, because I know
Speaker 7: it's hard to look at the Pistons now because we're
Speaker 7: so shitty, but yes, we actually used to be a
Speaker 7: very good basketball team in the early two thousand when
Speaker 7: Martin was sorry that I was like.
Speaker 2: That year they were they won the championship in two
Speaker 2: thousand and three.
Speaker 7: Yeah, we won the championship at oh four. What happened
Speaker 7: was is that Indiana and Detroit were rivals. You know,
Speaker 7: the Pistons went to six straight Eastern Conference finals. Indiana
Speaker 7: was the other team jockey and for the position and basically,
Speaker 7: you know, the the Pacers had kind of had a
Speaker 7: very statement win. It was on national TV statement win
Speaker 7: at the Palace, whipped the Pistons whole entire ass like
Speaker 7: beat they ass and the last maybe minute of the game,
Speaker 7: it might have been maybe like the last thirty seconds
Speaker 7: run our tests decides he he is gonna not only
Speaker 7: have a statement win, he like, we're gonna win the
Speaker 7: game and the fight. So so he has been egging
Speaker 7: on being Wallace this entire game. You know Bill Wallace
Speaker 7: Rady Defensive Player of the year. He one of them
Speaker 7: country strong brothers, Like this year is unbelievable.
Speaker 3: So went to McNee state like he he.
Speaker 7: With the bullshit, right, So, so you know, he had
Speaker 7: been needling them the whole game and being is like
Speaker 7: got a quiet demeanor. He had enough, so he just
Speaker 7: he shoved round our tests and run our test. Decides
Speaker 7: to go over, you know, because that's what he does.
Speaker 7: He agitates people run our tests. You know, they teend
Speaker 7: up being you know, players getting the faces. But no,
Speaker 7: Biggie Rodard Test goes over to the scores table and
Speaker 7: decides to lay down, just lay down flat across the.
Speaker 3: On the scores table, right.
Speaker 7: And so he's laying down on the scores table and
Speaker 7: out of the stands comes a beer that hits him
Speaker 7: while he's on the scores.
Speaker 3: Table and round our test.
Speaker 7: It took him about zero point five seconds before he
Speaker 7: got up, charging to the stands and beat the ship
Speaker 7: out the wrong fan.
Speaker 3: He didn't beat the shit.
Speaker 7: Out of the dude, the right one that through the beer,
Speaker 7: because he didn't get to him.
Speaker 3: He got to this one dude.
Speaker 7: And then next thing, you know, the fans jump in,
Speaker 7: they jumping him. Then the players from the pacers they
Speaker 7: go into the stands and Stephen Jackson goes right up
Speaker 7: into the Because Stephen Jackson was was Ron our Test's teammate.
Speaker 7: So y'all know how Stephen Jackson, Captain jack get down.
Speaker 3: He does not fuck around either like.
Speaker 7: It was a whole bunch of people from the not
Speaker 7: fucking a Round crew on two teams and that's why.
Speaker 7: So they in the stands fighting the stands. Meanwhile fans
Speaker 7: decide to come on to the floor. And I'm sure
Speaker 7: this is probably Quest's favorite part. This one thing came
Speaker 7: up to the store and I swear to god, Jermaine
Speaker 7: O'Neil almost ended his life.
Speaker 3: He all about five for five.
Speaker 7: He gonna roll up on six eleven, Jermaine O'Neill, and
Speaker 7: he got the two piece, the biscuit, the sides, and
Speaker 7: a large orange.
Speaker 4: He got old down.
Speaker 3: To make sure he cleansed his palate. He got all
Speaker 3: of that.
Speaker 7: So you are just seeing pockets of ass whoopings happened
Speaker 7: all around the arena. So when you go back and
Speaker 7: watch the footage, you could literally watch a different ass
Speaker 7: whooping every time.
Speaker 3: It's just unbelievable.
Speaker 8: They removed it from YouTube, y'all.
Speaker 7: They might have because the NBA is again very protective
Speaker 7: about this footage. So they showed this on the Jordan
Speaker 7: the last day. So really what happened was that wine
Speaker 7: that wound up honestly ruining uh, the the pacers domination
Speaker 7: at the time, you know, because they handed out rod
Speaker 7: our tests got the largest suspension, non drug suspension in
Speaker 7: NBA history. You know, he was gone for the rest
Speaker 7: of the season. Jermaine O'Neill. They gave him like sixty games.
Speaker 7: He might as well have been gone for the season.
Speaker 7: It completely tore apart their entire team. So, yeah, to
Speaker 7: answer you a question about where I was, I actually
Speaker 7: I was a sports reporter then, but I was covering
Speaker 7: college football and basketball.
Speaker 3: I was in Happy Valley. I was at Penn State
Speaker 3: because I State.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I was at pan State and we were watching
Speaker 7: at the bar, and I'm sitting there watching like, what
Speaker 7: the hell just happened? And not surprisingly, people use this
Speaker 7: as an opportunity to take a lot of shots at
Speaker 7: Detroit because clearly we have a reputation for being a
Speaker 7: violent city, much like a lot of major urban cities.
Speaker 7: But what I had to constantly remind people and what
Speaker 7: they didn't say, the Palace of Auburn Hills, what this
Speaker 7: happened is a good hour from Detroit. It's in the
Speaker 7: richest county in Michigan. Black folks were not going to
Speaker 7: like all the people you see getting they ass whooped.
Speaker 3: The only person who got.
Speaker 7: They asswhipped that was black iness was Fred Jones who
Speaker 7: was on the Indiana Pacers. His brother got his ass
Speaker 7: beat down by Bill Wallace's brother, Black on black crime
Speaker 7: at his finest, like, that's not only black people. You
Speaker 7: just see no black people running up on Ron our Tests.
Speaker 7: You did see the black people. Didn't know black people
Speaker 7: throw shit. We ain't douce shit. That was not our shit, Okay.
Speaker 7: That was some white folks acting a food okay, and
Speaker 7: they were about to get exactly now, I will say this,
Speaker 7: I am thankful it did happen at the Palace, which
Speaker 7: again is in a very zat suburban because if that
Speaker 7: had happened at the city.
Speaker 8: It would have been people waiting outside.
Speaker 7: This you got to understand how we do it in
Speaker 7: the d Now, that ship might have been something else, Okay,
Speaker 7: that would have been a tragedy and not just that
Speaker 7: ass whip it because like, we don't play that shit.
Speaker 5: And so yeah, I knew Ron our Tests was a
Speaker 5: different dude when like I did. I'm not I wasn't
Speaker 5: a sports fan at all. I knew Ron was a
Speaker 5: different nigga when I heard his Michael Jackson tribute song. Okay,
Speaker 5: Michael Michael, Michael.
Speaker 4: My nigga, you.
Speaker 3: Make this up.
Speaker 4: I'm not making this up.
Speaker 5: Google, ron Or Tests Michael Jackson's tribute Now you released
Speaker 5: it like the day after Michael Jackson died, and it
Speaker 5: was like, what the fuck?
Speaker 4: Michael Michael, Michael, you my nigga. I'm not lying about Test. Yeah.
Speaker 5: I thought you would have knew this to me, the
Speaker 5: way you like to play like.
Speaker 3: He just found it. Oh god, oh.
Speaker 4: Wow, Michael Michael, Michael, you my nigga.
Speaker 3: And the fact that you know the course is ending
Speaker 3: right now, that's.
Speaker 4: How I know Ron Tests.
Speaker 5: I mean I knew when he became Metal World peace
Speaker 5: right that's name.
Speaker 2: Now Well.
Speaker 6: M w well what I was leading to, Well, your
Speaker 6: one was where were you at when it happened? But
Speaker 6: Detroit has such I know, like, yes, the Philadelphia that
Speaker 6: always had to face Boston. Yes, I can attest to
Speaker 6: the fact that many a racial moment at the hands
Speaker 6: of Boston fans have occurred, and you know I've seen it.
Speaker 2: But I'll say that Detroit probably.
Speaker 6: Has the second most intense fan base next to Philadelphia,
Speaker 6: which Philadelphia is yeah, no, but it's well, okay, maybe
Speaker 6: as a team, not the fans. We are the worst
Speaker 6: fans of all time. But is it necessary for you
Speaker 6: guys to always be like the bad boys of whatever?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's in basketball.
Speaker 7: It is something we wear with honor because understand that
Speaker 7: when the bad Boys were winning, we interrupted a narrative
Speaker 7: that was going on in the NBA at that time.
Speaker 7: It was supposed to be Magic and Larry Bird. That
Speaker 7: was the error, right, that was the rivalry. And then
Speaker 7: here comes Isaiah Thomas out of nowhere having a nerve
Speaker 7: to win back to back titles. And because of the
Speaker 7: brand of basketball that Detroit was playing, and let's not
Speaker 7: get it twisted, people act like I seen many eclipse
Speaker 7: where Kevin McHale was lumping motherfuckers up.
Speaker 3: I saw media clips Robert Parrish.
Speaker 7: I mean, you know he he's sitting up there just
Speaker 7: almost damn near Macho May and Randy Savage and people.
Speaker 3: Like all the time.
Speaker 7: But we were the ones who got the reputation because
Speaker 7: I think it went hand in hand to generally what
Speaker 7: people thought of the city. You know, Detroit has always
Speaker 7: had this reputation of being not just a violent city,
Speaker 7: but a city that nobody gives a fuck about, Like Detroit.
Speaker 3: People just don't deserve nice things. That's just been the.
Speaker 7: General attitude, like we're not cool like Chicago. You know
Speaker 7: what I'm saying, Like we're not cool like Chicago. We're
Speaker 7: not cool like New York. We're not cool like La.
Speaker 7: They murder rates to look like ours. But people love
Speaker 7: these cities because they think they're so cool and trendy.
Speaker 7: And it with Detroit, we're treated like a stain on
Speaker 7: this country. And yeah, I mean, even though Motown obviously
Speaker 7: gave you, you know, one of the greatest black empires
Speaker 7: of all time, the reality is that that's always been
Speaker 7: our lot in life. And because of that disrespect, I
Speaker 7: think our general conditioning tells us, Okay, oh y'all think
Speaker 7: we ain't shit, well, we're gonna act as eight shit
Speaker 7: as possible. And so that was always, you know, kind
Speaker 7: of the thing with the bad boys. They were taking
Speaker 7: on very much the character of the city like a hard, scrappy.
Speaker 2: We'll show you crazy, yes.
Speaker 7: Exactly, like you think we're bad boys. Okay, let's see what.
Speaker 7: We'll show you what we're about. And we knew that,
Speaker 7: you know, truly, the campaign starting to Detroit, Detroit versus
Speaker 7: everybody that's our mentality, and that translated to a lot
Speaker 7: of our sports teams, but the Pistons in particular, because
Speaker 7: you know, the black identity is kind of tied up
Speaker 7: in that mindset that we all we got cm B,
Speaker 7: we all we got so because of that, that's why
Speaker 7: you'll find that a lot of Detroiters take an unusually
Speaker 7: high amount of almost delusional pride in the city.
Speaker 3: When you run into anybody from Detroit, you're like, damn,
Speaker 3: don't like, Yes.
Speaker 7: That's how we are, you know, and so and for that,
Speaker 7: you know, I think the way that that city having
Speaker 7: that character certainly is something that whenever I've run into
Speaker 7: obstacles or whatever, it's that character that was that was
Speaker 7: kind of infused in me early being from this city,
Speaker 7: that has really helped me whether a lot of different
Speaker 7: things in my life.
Speaker 3: It's like, you know, we just tough, We just we
Speaker 3: just built different.
Speaker 5: Now, y'all got a chip. So I'm a production part
Speaker 5: of ZOUL. He's Detroit and talk to him. Yeah, it
Speaker 5: is Detroit. Yeah something the DMV know. He's been there
Speaker 5: for like the past, you know, twelve thirteen years, have
Speaker 5: a long but not Detroit is home for him.
Speaker 4: But in being around him.
Speaker 5: He just explained to me, I kind of got that
Speaker 5: mentality like everything you say, Jamil, just out Detroiters. You
Speaker 5: just kind of have that chip on your shoulder, like
Speaker 5: it's just that eternal chip that you know you're gonna
Speaker 5: go harder.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna show you like it's that thing.
Speaker 5: And it's and it's even different than like a Chicago
Speaker 5: kind of hip, Like it's a different it's a different thing.
Speaker 5: It's but yeah, but all my the thing I always
Speaker 5: like about Detroiters is that you know what it is
Speaker 5: with them. There's no ambiguity. They either love you or
Speaker 5: they hate you, and you know what it is. And
Speaker 5: I appreciate that.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and we I mean we ride for our folks.
Speaker 7: I mean, you know, anybody from the d or just
Speaker 7: people that we love that show us love. You know,
Speaker 7: Isaiah Thomas is from Chicago, but you know he can
Speaker 7: do no wrong in Detroit ever, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 7: because that's our dude. And it's the same any of
Speaker 7: those pistons in O four that got into Mallas in
Speaker 7: the Palace when the whole nation.
Speaker 3: Was just just.
Speaker 7: Throwing shots at Detroit about oh this is what you
Speaker 7: expect from a violent city. We're like fucking the happy
Speaker 7: at Auburn Hills. That ain't even us, but we'll claim it. Yeah,
Speaker 7: that's us, now, what you know. So it's it's been
Speaker 7: a it's a badge honor.
Speaker 3: Definitely.
Speaker 6: Question Barry Sanders, did you ever get to meet him,
Speaker 6: watch him play, interview him, or.
Speaker 2: Anything like that.
Speaker 3: Like I said, I'm ten thousand years old even so.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 7: So here here's the the unusualness about my my Detroit fandom.
Speaker 7: The one team I'm not a fan of is the
Speaker 7: Lions because Lions it was.
Speaker 3: So damn shitty.
Speaker 7: Like you, if you can see in my background, you
Speaker 7: see this little mini helmet here. That's my husband's he
Speaker 7: alliance fan. Please pray for him because he's from Detroit too.
Speaker 4: I'm a forty nine ers.
Speaker 7: Yes, the big helmet is mine because we actually win things,
Speaker 7: unlike the Lions. So to answer your point, though, I mean,
Speaker 7: you know Barry during that time we talk in late eighties,
Speaker 7: you know, early nineties. I mean, he was some of
Speaker 7: the for the Lions on some of the best teams
Speaker 7: they've ever had. The thing about Barry is when you
Speaker 7: meet him, like he's a very soft spoken very quiet,
Speaker 7: you know, kind of person. But I don't know if
Speaker 7: I've seen too many players rupture more Achilles and tare
Speaker 7: Mour knees than Barry. Standers did trying to tackle that. Dude,
Speaker 7: asked Rod Woodson, still looking for his kneecap because of Barry,
Speaker 7: saying okay, you know, and he could make he I mean,
Speaker 7: he's the only running back probably in history that could
Speaker 7: make a one yard loss look like the most incredible
Speaker 7: play you have ever seen in your life. And it
Speaker 7: was an exciting time for Lions fans then because he
Speaker 7: was such a superstar, somebody who was committed to the city.
Speaker 7: Barry still lives in Detroit, and that's yeah, he still
Speaker 7: lives there. I mean that's you know, and very beloved.
Speaker 7: And that's the people we that gives us a special
Speaker 7: kind of pride with. It's people that are not even
Speaker 7: from there, people that as soon as they're done playing,
Speaker 7: that could leave and they still stay there anyway.
Speaker 3: I mean that's just love.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Yo, Okay, that reminds me speaking of Detroit, because
Speaker 5: I don't think me and you never talked about this
Speaker 5: on your show.
Speaker 4: What is your Detroit take? On? Kwame?
Speaker 9: I was about to ask in the middle, I was
Speaker 9: talking about they ain't breaking and they spelled.
Speaker 10: I was like, well, that.
Speaker 8: Nigga cme definitely made it.
Speaker 7: I mean that might be the most that might be
Speaker 7: the most detroit nigga. Ever, I ain't gonna lie like
Speaker 7: that is what? What is he in prison?
Speaker 5: They was talking about it for a minute and then
Speaker 5: they stopped it. Your Christine she ended up was on
Speaker 5: like a show or something that.
Speaker 7: Was about It was about women who, like they they
Speaker 7: basically tried to pick up their lives and put it
Speaker 7: back together after something happened. And I mean, it's a
Speaker 7: long story, but it's such as.
Speaker 3: The women involve will call me is like what y'all
Speaker 3: talking about?
Speaker 7: Yes, it's Oh my god, that's what I mean.
Speaker 3: That's what I remember.
Speaker 8: I remember text to texting. It's been so long.
Speaker 3: It's just such a his story.
Speaker 7: And I was there when when all of it unfolding,
Speaker 7: and working at the newspaper that I want a Pulitzer
Speaker 7: for for essentially taking.
Speaker 3: Him down, you know. So Kwame. Yeah, I don't know
Speaker 3: if y'all remember this, but Kwame was built. He was
Speaker 3: on the conversary.
Speaker 4: Mayor is over here we go in five.
Speaker 7: Out there in nine button suits, the Steve Harvey Specials
Speaker 7: Steve Collection.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: He proposed of this and uh so he it's a
Speaker 7: different look. He got an ear ring in his ear.
Speaker 7: He in his early thirties. He the mayor of Detroit,
Speaker 7: you know, one of the blackest cities in the country.
Speaker 7: All that ship is a recipe for disaster because because
Speaker 7: you know, when you're mayor, obviously you have you know,
Speaker 7: you have power, you have a security detail, access, you
Speaker 7: have access, you got you got a city credit card,
Speaker 7: you got all these other things. He went to DC
Speaker 7: about the borrow out. We can't we had the mayor
Speaker 7: that was doing stuff like that. It was just it
Speaker 7: was just like it was just so like he would
Speaker 7: give you a professionalism with some hood and it's just
Speaker 7: like what.
Speaker 3: Like I swear to guy every.
Speaker 2: Friday, like addressed with or like.
Speaker 7: But he did have on I mean, I'm sure you guys,
Speaker 7: as musicians, at some point you probably had to do
Speaker 7: an interview or do something with w JLB at Detroit,
Speaker 7: which is like the big earthen station in the v
Speaker 7: and he he had a weekly segment on JAILB talking
Speaker 7: about called how at the mayor.
Speaker 5: Really, yeah, that was the That was the original podcast.
Speaker 7: So uh, the movie had a State with Chris Rock
Speaker 7: was partly based off Kame Kirkpatrick, like if this dude
Speaker 7: could like that's what.
Speaker 3: He was a good mayor or No, it.
Speaker 7: Was just about the fact that what happens when you
Speaker 7: just take an address abject negro dem to a political
Speaker 7: office and the shenanigans that can shoot. Because it's a
Speaker 7: lost story short, this is ultimately the downfall of Kwame
Speaker 7: Kilpatrick and it's based off one of the most infamous
Speaker 7: yet unproven Steell stories about what happened during his regime.
Speaker 7: So the urban tale is that and how this all
Speaker 7: kick started him going down for in Bestling City. Yes, yes,
Speaker 7: because of course yes, Oh no, it's a whole thing.
Speaker 7: So the Minogian Mansion is the mayoral mansion in Detroit.
Speaker 7: The urban legend is that Kwame Kilpatrick threw a party there,
Speaker 7: a huge party that you talked to anybody from Detroit,
Speaker 7: they swear they was there, but nobody knows shit, but
Speaker 7: they all.
Speaker 4: Said they was there.
Speaker 3: He threw this party.
Speaker 7: Wife, he goes out of town, wife, he circles back
Speaker 7: to the party because I don't know I guess it
Speaker 7: was like something just ay right or whatever.
Speaker 3: Right, So she circles back.
Speaker 7: Supposedly comes back, and the urban legend is Kwame was there.
Speaker 7: It was strippers, his boys, party out of control. She
Speaker 7: beat up the stripper who uh who later wound up
Speaker 7: who was later murdered, like very shortly after this happened,
Speaker 7: she was murdered execution style on the street of Detroit.
Speaker 3: What it's still unsolved. It's still unsolved, right.
Speaker 7: So then you know this party like people spent I
Speaker 7: mean investigative reports really tried to uncover like did this
Speaker 7: party take place?
Speaker 3: Did not?
Speaker 7: Whatever happened, long story short is that, uh, he was
Speaker 7: also having an affair with his with his deputy, who
Speaker 7: was Christine Beatty, who is talking about on the I
Speaker 7: think she was like his deputies. Now she wasn't deputy mayor.
Speaker 7: I don't know if she was press secretary. She was
Speaker 7: one of those positions.
Speaker 3: Kids used to call him uncle because he was best
Speaker 3: friends with her, friends with her husband. Now this is
Speaker 3: all on the record.
Speaker 7: So he had an affair with Christine Beatty, and what
Speaker 7: happened is dirty macket.
Speaker 3: It was just a dirty mackett.
Speaker 7: Is that he used city money to continue his dirty,
Speaker 7: dirty the dirty Mackett. So he some of his security
Speaker 7: detail figured out that they were having an affair and
Speaker 7: he was trying to get them to lie for him
Speaker 7: and do all you know, like you can't do that, right,
Speaker 7: and so uh, they he fired one of them.
Speaker 3: The dude that he fired wound up suing him and.
Speaker 7: All these part of the evidence was all these text messages.
Speaker 3: So I'm just trying to figure out how.
Speaker 4: Let's clear all these text messages on company phone.
Speaker 3: Phones, on the city phones.
Speaker 7: Here's a little uh, here's a little tip pro tip
Speaker 7: that people may not know. We have something called the
Speaker 7: the uh freedom of right. It's called foy For sure,
Speaker 7: any public official and government of office, you can put
Speaker 7: in a Fourier requests and get everything they've written on
Speaker 7: city whatever, every all the text messages, anything, because anything
Speaker 7: you're governor local government does it is public information. It's
Speaker 7: still a lot they may have to sue to get
Speaker 7: it because some people try to block it, but it's
Speaker 7: all public information.
Speaker 3: Like you could go.
Speaker 7: Down right now and ask for the like, you know,
Speaker 7: the mayor's contract or the city contract with the police department.
Speaker 7: They have to give it to you because it's all
Speaker 7: public information. So this is reporters. We use this all
Speaker 7: the time to our advantage. So long story short, these
Speaker 7: text messages, the free press gets them, and their text
Speaker 7: messages not only to Kwame and Christine Beatty, proven that
Speaker 7: they did indeed have this affair, proven that he did
Speaker 7: fire this main person in his security detail because he
Speaker 7: did it out of vindictiveness and vengeance, because he wanted
Speaker 7: him to try to cover up his affair, and he
Speaker 7: wouldn't do it till he fired him.
Speaker 3: And he wound up suing the city for eleven million dollars.
Speaker 7: And it was like a whole thing. These text messages
Speaker 7: were pure gold. I mean pure gold.
Speaker 4: Yes, we were climing player.
Speaker 9: Actually, I think we used to read him out loud
Speaker 9: on the radio, like do a dramatic interpretation.
Speaker 7: They're so unbelievable and you come to find out, you know,
Speaker 7: it wasn't just Christy Beattie, Like the mayor was out
Speaker 7: there doing his just told him I'm mac you know,
Speaker 7: he was out there.
Speaker 3: Doing his.
Speaker 8: First song to hit me at this time.
Speaker 9: I would just like to shout out to all the
Speaker 9: young black mayors who are doing their thing. Asia Brown,
Speaker 9: I see you in Compton and Michael Tubbs and California Stockton,
Speaker 9: I see you as well.
Speaker 3: Yes, oh yeah, and the new mayor of Ferguson first
Speaker 3: black man.
Speaker 9: Wait, she's not my Black Lives Matter sister though, right,
Speaker 9: it's that's.
Speaker 3: The one who is.
Speaker 7: She won the primary and it's poised to to win
Speaker 7: a representative seat. But no, I mean so it was
Speaker 7: just abject foolishness. And on top of all the things
Speaker 7: he was doing, he put his daddy on a city
Speaker 7: contract that like.
Speaker 3: He never made it on. It was just foolish man.
Speaker 7: His boy, uh, he allowed him he had he had
Speaker 7: done some reckless and he allowed him to report to
Speaker 7: jail on the weekends.
Speaker 3: And it turned out he wasn't even report to jail
Speaker 3: on the weekends.
Speaker 7: It was like it was just every time he could
Speaker 7: possibly steal, he figured out a way to try to
Speaker 7: steal it.
Speaker 5: But so basically he was the blueprint for Trump pretty much.
Speaker 3: I mean pretty much.
Speaker 7: I mean he he hooked up his family in a
Speaker 7: very similar fashion. And you know, Detroit already a broke city,
Speaker 7: so it's like we ain't even got shipped, and you
Speaker 7: just so you have just stolen everything that wasn't nailed down.
Speaker 3: So gentrification yet hell yeah, we got it now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, not back then.
Speaker 7: I mean you know, I mean there were some uh
Speaker 7: you know Detroit that's just like every like any city.
Speaker 7: You know, it's right off the waterfront in Canada's our neighbor.
Speaker 7: So all that all that stuff was, you know, they
Speaker 7: basically waited on property values to be depressed.
Speaker 3: And now I go downtown.
Speaker 7: They got a Lululemon and a Whole Foods and I
Speaker 7: can't believe it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and a bunch of white people.
Speaker 7: Like now you go downtown Detroit, You going the restaurant,
Speaker 7: you might the only black person in there, which is
Speaker 7: crazy to me.
Speaker 6: Before the lockdown, I went to Detroit and I meant,
Speaker 6: you know, I still considered, especially when Dylan was here
Speaker 6: with us. I mean, I made a line share of
Speaker 6: a lot of albums I'm known for in the city
Speaker 6: of Detroit, and it is.
Speaker 2: Night and day.
Speaker 9: Now.
Speaker 6: I know a lot of that has to do with gentrification.
Speaker 6: I mean they're white, is okay? Well, yeah, I was
Speaker 6: going to say, like, how do you feel about how
Speaker 6: Detroit has transformed? Because now things that I've never seen
Speaker 6: twenty years ago, like farmed the table, restaurants.
Speaker 3: And yeah they call South Toronto now luxury.
Speaker 6: Yeah, luxury, luxury like hotels that were former firehouses or banks.
Speaker 7: And yes, I know exactly where you stay if you
Speaker 7: stayed that that converted all the time.
Speaker 6: Yo, it's so luxurious or is that or is that
Speaker 6: a flim flam for tourists that just come to downtown Detroit.
Speaker 6: Meanwhile the other miles five, six, seven, eight, not whatever.
Speaker 7: Yeah, gentrification stops at a certain point. So for me
Speaker 7: it is Yeah, I'll be blunt. I don't like it.
Speaker 7: And the reason I don't like it is not because
Speaker 7: I don't want to see Detroit step into a progression,
Speaker 7: and it's not that I don't want my city to
Speaker 7: do well. I don't like it because for years and
Speaker 7: years and years, there was a lot of black people,
Speaker 7: a lot of black business owners who poured their sweat
Speaker 7: equity into the city of Detroit, into downtown Detroit when
Speaker 7: we wasn't fashionable to fuck with us, and they got
Speaker 7: pushed out because there's there's not a lot of black
Speaker 7: businesses down there.
Speaker 3: You brought up Diyler.
Speaker 7: His donut spot is one of the few black businesses
Speaker 7: that were down there. I think it may have closed
Speaker 7: since but the donuts were really good at any rate.
Speaker 7: So that's the part that I think not just in Detroit,
Speaker 7: but Oakland, you go to most of the major cities.
Speaker 7: That's the part that doesn't sit well is that as
Speaker 7: soon as they able to flip the complexion of what
Speaker 7: the place looks like, then all of a sudden, grocery stores.
Speaker 7: I mean when I when I was growing up, the
Speaker 7: last department store Detroit closed and it wasn't one downtown
Speaker 7: for years, years and years and years. And now to
Speaker 7: see like under Armour, Nike all these places correct, it's like,
Speaker 7: now you got these, you know, million dollar condos and
Speaker 7: swinging lofts and all that other stuff, which is which
Speaker 7: is great, But I look at who's in these buildings,
Speaker 7: who owns these buildings, and who's really benefiting off the
Speaker 7: sweat equity that people who are real Detroit just put
Speaker 7: into that place for years, and it's not us. So
Speaker 7: it's it's it's a little hurtful to see.
Speaker 2: Is the Anthemium still up the Atheneum?
Speaker 3: Yep, it's still there. My problem was at the Athenium.
Speaker 6: I gotta say that I believe I think the Anthemium
Speaker 6: opened in ninety seven.
Speaker 2: I believe either ninety six or ninety seven.
Speaker 7: I think it opened before then because my prom was
Speaker 7: there and I enjoyed it in ninety three, so.
Speaker 6: Well they did they did something where they did to
Speaker 6: repurpose right, and we were like one of the first
Speaker 6: people stay there.
Speaker 2: So it was like a brand new condo. Like it
Speaker 2: was like a touch of elegance.
Speaker 6: And then twenty years later, not quite say it's like
Speaker 6: a two star hotel.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, but they got better.
Speaker 7: I mean they got a lot of great places now,
Speaker 7: like you mentioned the converted firehouse, and then they got
Speaker 7: a new joy, the Shinola Hotel, which is like, yeah, unbelievable.
Speaker 2: Yeah, say there too. Yeah, did you ever go to
Speaker 2: the hip hop shop in your teen years? The spots
Speaker 2: that Maurice Malone Like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I never went there.
Speaker 7: A lot of my friends were there, but that's obviously
Speaker 7: a very legendary place to go into Detroit, much like St. Andrew's,
Speaker 7: which Fonte brought up earlier, like that those were like
Speaker 7: kind of classic enclaves. I mean, I've seen so many
Speaker 7: underground you know, folks at Saint Andrews and even people
Speaker 7: who became you know, a really big deal like I
Speaker 7: saw The first time I saw Jill Scott was at
Speaker 7: Saint Andrews, you know, and she was there in the
Speaker 7: middle of a blizzard and I was like, this woman
Speaker 7: is incredible and I think getting it away had wasn't
Speaker 7: even that hot yet. But the person I was dating
Speaker 7: at the time was like, oh, you should check her out,
Speaker 7: like she's dope, and he took me to the concert
Speaker 7: and I was like, oh yeah, I fuck with her absolutely.
Speaker 9: I was gonna say, it's the are the folks like
Speaker 9: it seems like there's a nice collective of Detroit folks
Speaker 9: that I've done well for themselves and still are connected
Speaker 9: to the city.
Speaker 8: I like, I know, Big Sean definitely a lot for Detroit.
Speaker 3: Royce, the five nine, Yeah, I mean these are all
Speaker 3: people want to ask you.
Speaker 8: How connected are folks?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, no, you know, I've I've connected.
Speaker 7: I did a podcast with Royce which was great, Like
Speaker 7: Royce is just a real dude, Like love that dude.
Speaker 7: Very underrated lyricists. Uh, he's great. Days is great, Big Sean.
Speaker 7: Like when back Black Panthers came where I was like,
Speaker 7: what's I don't know, because I mean and it felt
Speaker 7: like they were it was some image changing.
Speaker 8: That was happening, Like, yeah, definitely.
Speaker 3: Felt like that was underway.
Speaker 7: So I'm wondering if this is them trying to craft
Speaker 7: her into something has stunned the growth just to just
Speaker 7: I don't.
Speaker 3: Know about it, but just based on that's how it looks.
Speaker 7: So when Black Panther came out, Me Day's Loaf, Big Sean,
Speaker 7: we all collaborated to to get kids in Detroit to
Speaker 7: send to go see the movie. So it's just like,
Speaker 7: you know, all we do got to do is throw
Speaker 7: up a who do you who?
Speaker 3: Call that?
Speaker 9: We all it's Eminem a big part of that collective
Speaker 9: of kind of giving back up.
Speaker 7: So I know Eminem and Royce are tight. I've never
Speaker 7: had any interaction with Eminem, but it's I mean, he's
Speaker 7: got like, he's got a really good reputation in the city.
Speaker 7: Not a person that who you know is from the
Speaker 7: d who was kind of harder to funk with for
Speaker 7: a lot of reasons.
Speaker 8: Is right, I forgot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's all I gotta say about that. For him,
Speaker 3: it's still in Detroit to right Detroit area.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I'm just I'm still trying to figure
Speaker 7: out how dude that grew up outside of Detroit is
Speaker 7: suddenly the foremost bar of the Confederate flag.
Speaker 3: But I digress.
Speaker 6: His thing is he has a black son, and you
Speaker 6: know that's his past.
Speaker 2: So he's sister.
Speaker 8: Not the.
Speaker 7: Okay, first of all, I didn't know it was Jody
Speaker 7: Whitley's sister.
Speaker 3: I had no idea.
Speaker 7: But yeah, but he's got a black Everybody knew that
Speaker 7: he that he has a black son. So like, so
Speaker 7: him waving that Confederate flag or just him trying to
Speaker 7: flip the script like in college. When I was in college,
Speaker 7: like k Rock was calling our college newspaper all the
Speaker 7: time to try to get us to review his CD,
Speaker 7: you know, because he was a hip hop artist.
Speaker 6: Then, like you know, you spend your formative years trying
Speaker 6: to be down and then you know, when you're forty,
Speaker 6: you just morphed back into what you really.
Speaker 8: Are, like you lose your revolution.
Speaker 6: Like absolutely, I'm sorry, I'm the only one here actually
Speaker 6: like sports.
Speaker 8: That is actually a lie. But go ahead and ask question.
Speaker 2: A couple of quick questions.
Speaker 4: Who's your favorite Detroit Tiger of all time?
Speaker 3: Uh oh, that's such a good question. I'm going to say.
Speaker 3: I'm going to say Kirk.
Speaker 2: Gibson okay, and what made you nine Ers fan?
Speaker 7: So it's a very boring, ridiculous story. I know you're like,
Speaker 7: how is something boring or ridiculous?
Speaker 3: It was like this.
Speaker 7: So my mother was she was seventeen years old or
Speaker 7: eighteen years old. I think she turned eighteen. She moved
Speaker 7: out to the Bay Area with my father, and I
Speaker 7: was not in the picture quite yet, but I became
Speaker 7: in the picture when they moved out to.
Speaker 3: The Bay Area.
Speaker 7: The sight of my conception is in the Bay and
Speaker 7: so so yeah, my mother while she was out there,
Speaker 7: I wasn't born after I was born in Detroit, but
Speaker 7: she loved the forty nine ers and she really liked
Speaker 7: the team in it and as they got better, and
Speaker 7: then they drafted a young fellow named Joe Montana. She
Speaker 7: was a really big fan of Joe Montana's and so
Speaker 7: she would always talk about the forty nine ers. And
Speaker 7: she was still a Lions fan as well. But the
Speaker 7: Lions were dreadful. They were so shitty. When I was
Speaker 7: coming up then, I was like, why would I care
Speaker 7: about this team that doesn't w and they're all, you know,
Speaker 7: the franchise seems to be completely incompetent, Like why would
Speaker 7: I root for the Lions?
Speaker 3: Like, who cares? Like they suck?
Speaker 7: So taking the part of the forty nine ers from her,
Speaker 7: I just started watching the forty nine ers and they
Speaker 7: just became my team.
Speaker 3: And so hints the helmet.
Speaker 2: Yeah, good timing too. The Lions have never won right now.
Speaker 3: They're they're they're in.
Speaker 7: I think it's the Lions in Cleveland are the only
Speaker 7: two NFL teams who have not been to a modern
Speaker 7: day Super Bowl. Oh, for shit, they need to get
Speaker 7: to that motherfucker.
Speaker 3: They can't even sniff it. What But I do tell.
Speaker 7: People that, you know, for as much as the Lions
Speaker 7: have lost the dedication, the fans there are horribly dedicated.
Speaker 3: I live with one, so I know.
Speaker 7: And if they ever went to a Super Bowl, they
Speaker 7: ain't even got a window, bitch. If they ever got there,
Speaker 7: it just get there. It'd be the biggest sports story,
Speaker 7: arguably in Michigan history.
Speaker 4: What's the number one reason why the Lions can't can't
Speaker 4: get there or haven't gotten there?
Speaker 7: Well, you know, as they say, attitude reflect leadership. The
Speaker 7: Ford family has I got that from remember the Titans.
Speaker 7: I'm not a genius. Yeah it was, so, you know,
Speaker 7: the thing is like I believe a wood Hare said it.
Speaker 7: So the thing about the Lions is like they've been
Speaker 7: the one constant has been the Ford family ownership. And
Speaker 7: to me, it's like you keep changing coaches, You've changed
Speaker 7: many a quarterback, you've changed offenses. The one constant is
Speaker 7: the leadership up top has not changed. It's been in
Speaker 7: the Ford family for years and will probably be there forever.
Speaker 7: I think, you know, they are just not good football people.
Speaker 7: And you know right now they're trying to copy a
Speaker 7: blueprint for the Patriots because like other teams have done,
Speaker 7: like they hired Matt Patricia, who's was the defensive coordinator
Speaker 7: for the Patriots. They have a whole lot of Patriots
Speaker 7: folks in the building. Looting the GM is somebody from
Speaker 7: the Patriots organization. And what's so funny about that formula
Speaker 7: is that it's not really a formula.
Speaker 3: The formula was Bill Belichick and Tom Brady.
Speaker 7: I was about to say, I thought, OK, unless you
Speaker 7: have one of them, then you know, notice none of
Speaker 7: like Bill Belichick's coaching tree is actually terrible, Like the
Speaker 7: best coaching the best person that came from his coaching
Speaker 7: tree is Nick Saban.
Speaker 3: Everybody else has been bad.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 7: It's not like Tonyngee. Tony Dungee has an incredible coaching tree,
Speaker 7: Bill Walsh incredible coaching tree. Bill Belichick is whack because
Speaker 7: again all of them did not have Tom Brady. So
Speaker 7: unless you can create a Tom Brady, then.
Speaker 4: Good luck Belichick. He's part of the Parcels coaching tree.
Speaker 4: And that's my right, correct.
Speaker 3: So like Bill Parcell's great coaching tree, you know.
Speaker 7: And so at any rate, the Lions they just have
Speaker 7: been they've had just really incompetent front offices, just dreadful coaches.
Speaker 7: I mean, it's just, uh, it just hasn't been in
Speaker 7: the card for cards for them. Look, I don't have
Speaker 7: anything against the lines. I want them to do well
Speaker 7: because I know what it means for the city and
Speaker 7: I want to protect my husband's mental health.
Speaker 9: So now I want them to do y'all think that
Speaker 9: the South will ever get football teams or what?
Speaker 8: Will? They just continue to depend on college football.
Speaker 7: They do have some football teams. They call it the
Speaker 7: SEC pretty much.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, we got the Panthers.
Speaker 8: Me right, my trip and I just came to Panthers.
Speaker 7: It's like but you and no, probably not. And I
Speaker 7: don't think they want pro sports like they're that like
Speaker 7: to them, Alabama football is a pro sport.
Speaker 3: I mean, and it is, I mean for real, so
Speaker 3: like it ain't no big deal to them.
Speaker 9: I just came into the enlightenment of why they get
Speaker 9: so hype about college sports.
Speaker 8: I was like, oh my god, there really it's.
Speaker 5: Not a lot of but even here, it's just college
Speaker 5: football in the South is just a different animal relation
Speaker 5: sports panal correct, general, Like I mean the ACC tournament
Speaker 5: down here, like when I mean when the world was open,
Speaker 5: Like our teachers used to roll the damn cart in
Speaker 5: the classroom, you know what.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like doing the a SEC tournament. Man, we ain't
Speaker 4: do in school that dope. We watched the joint But.
Speaker 6: It is the point, not isn't the point to support
Speaker 6: that particular player and then watch them going to greatness?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, they wouldn't want a professional football team want.
Speaker 8: To make money?
Speaker 4: Well they don't think they don't want to make money?
Speaker 2: Right? Do you think they will ever play college players ever?
Speaker 7: I think a reckoning is coming because at some point
Speaker 7: they will not be able to hold back the inevitable.
Speaker 7: And what this pandemic has exposed is how their greed
Speaker 7: has honestly put them in this position because here's the thing.
Speaker 7: If they were actually paying the players, people would have
Speaker 7: less of a problem with them playing during this pandemic.
Speaker 7: Like the pros, to play is one thing because they're pros,
Speaker 7: they're paid, they all have unions. If college players were
Speaker 7: actually paid, there would not be a lot of handwringing
Speaker 7: about whether or not they should be playing. You wouldn't
Speaker 7: have to worry about the optics of having players on
Speaker 7: campus but not regular students, which sends the message that
Speaker 7: it's okay to say, we have to sacrifice your lives
Speaker 7: and your health and your safety because we built an
Speaker 7: entire free economy off your free labor.
Speaker 4: Off this.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I seen thousand people watching Nigga solve a math problems,
Speaker 5: you know.
Speaker 7: What I'm saying, So that that's what's being exposed. I
Speaker 7: mean it's always been that way, but I think it's
Speaker 7: become especially obvious during this pandemic is that you have
Speaker 7: you know, you have people who have seven figure salaries.
Speaker 7: You know those college towns in Alabama. Think about what
Speaker 7: happens to Tuscaloosa with no Alabama football.
Speaker 3: So it's no shock that the.
Speaker 7: SEC has decided to continue to play because they have
Speaker 7: built an entire economy around these players.
Speaker 4: It's a whole ecosystem.
Speaker 7: It's a whole ecosystem, exactly, Nick sab but it's making
Speaker 7: eight nine million dollars a year.
Speaker 9: You think that's the question about the pros being in
Speaker 9: some of these towns, because I'm like, well, if they
Speaker 9: had a pro team, may be able to kind of
Speaker 9: balance out a little bit.
Speaker 8: I mean, it was right. I guess you're right.
Speaker 3: And not only that the Southern states.
Speaker 7: I mean, not that this has stopped anybody from putting
Speaker 7: sports ahead of the welfare of their constituents, but Southern
Speaker 7: states are are generally the poor states in the nation.
Speaker 7: So it's like there's also you know, here's why I
Speaker 7: love it when these conservatives always got they always got
Speaker 7: heat for Chicago and democratic cities.
Speaker 3: I'm like, have you seen Mississippi?
Speaker 4: Motherfucker?
Speaker 7: Like all the Republican governors are in the worst states.
Speaker 7: It's just like, all right, okay, y'all, ain't got no
Speaker 7: room for talking.
Speaker 8: Just make one one question about the last dance.
Speaker 9: I to have a Michael George question because he was
Speaker 9: talking about activism, were talking about the NBA and it's lack.
Speaker 8: And that was picking back up with Lebron. What can't
Speaker 8: we blame your boy a little bit?
Speaker 4: No, we can't.
Speaker 5: But I have a very North Carolina take on this.
Speaker 5: But I'm curious for you.
Speaker 3: I'm kidding I would say this.
Speaker 7: I think that we need to look at Jordan's off
Speaker 7: the field or off the court contributions in a different way.
Speaker 7: So here's what we have to recognize. What Jordan did
Speaker 7: do for black athletes. He gave them a blueprint for
Speaker 7: generational wealth, for global success.
Speaker 3: He also proved to.
Speaker 7: The business community that you can make a black man,
Speaker 7: a dark skinned black man, the face of a company
Speaker 7: and you could be a commercial, international success.
Speaker 4: That's what revolution is to him. Like, that's him, I
Speaker 4: mean to him.
Speaker 5: So it's like so for me, like when I look
Speaker 5: at it, it's like, you know, there was a piece
Speaker 5: that was written I wanted.
Speaker 4: I think the writer was right Thompson.
Speaker 5: But there's like a piece that was written on Jordan,
Speaker 5: like a couple of months ago that was better than
Speaker 5: the last dance.
Speaker 7: I mean, the ship was amazing piece because that's like
Speaker 7: the best piece I've ever read on Michael Jordan's.
Speaker 5: That ship is amazing, and it breaks down just as
Speaker 5: a Carolina nigga, that ship spoke to my soul. So
Speaker 5: it just breaks down, like his coming up in Wilmington
Speaker 5: and like the racist ship that went down in Wilmington.
Speaker 9: And like everything, I apologize, I'm a North No, it
Speaker 9: still it just gives context.
Speaker 5: And so it just shows like for him for people
Speaker 5: on the outside, like why didn't he speak out? Why
Speaker 5: didn't he do this? For someone like him that literally
Speaker 5: came up on a dirt fucking road, like you know
Speaker 5: what I mean, and like saw all these atrocities and
Speaker 5: you know, from his family and like all this shit.
Speaker 5: The success that was revolution to him, to him is
Speaker 5: just yo, I'm just here to do my fucking job,
Speaker 5: and my job and the work I do on the
Speaker 5: court that's gonna speak for me and speak more for
Speaker 5: my people more than me making a speech ever fucking would.
Speaker 9: And then I'm charge dollars and more for they shoot
Speaker 9: these shoes and they're gonna be all right. They might
Speaker 9: kill each other, fight each other over, but I ain't
Speaker 9: gonna say shit. I'm just gonna let it happen, and
Speaker 9: I'm gonna charge more than this. This is gonna be
Speaker 9: five hundred.
Speaker 4: Dollars, because that's what it is.
Speaker 5: I mean, listen, I mean if you go to the
Speaker 5: I mean if you look at like Starberry when he
Speaker 5: tried to do his shoe, you know, twenty five dollars.
Speaker 4: Shoes right in the middle the got that show was
Speaker 4: but no, but.
Speaker 5: I'm saying it showed that that was price point is
Speaker 5: not an issue for the people that want those shoes,
Speaker 5: Like it's not.
Speaker 4: Now he's saying niggas need to be killing and shooting
Speaker 4: and ship like that.
Speaker 5: But it was just you know, I don't think all
Speaker 5: that should lay at the feet of Jordan, like niggas
Speaker 5: is gonna do whatever to get them shoes.
Speaker 7: I wouldn't, but I would say I would not lay
Speaker 7: all that there. As the years have gone by, I
Speaker 7: tended to see his his level or brand of activism
Speaker 7: in a different way. That being said, though he had
Speaker 7: opportunities on the most basic shoot all I'm saying like
Speaker 7: him not supporting Harvey Gan against Jesse.
Speaker 3: It's like dog like, this is a layup, Like this is
Speaker 3: a la Jordan, like.
Speaker 2: This is a literal.
Speaker 9: Literally it was It's gonna be the nineties, It's gonna
Speaker 9: be the two thousands.
Speaker 7: But the other thing too, I think Jordan's you know,
Speaker 7: he provided a blueprint. The problem was within that that
Speaker 7: in decoding how he was able to gain such success
Speaker 7: is that players started to take on to an extreme
Speaker 7: level this idea that they wanted to be as politically
Speaker 7: or as a political as possible. And because that's I mean, ultimately,
Speaker 7: what Jordan was able to successfully do is he allowed
Speaker 7: himself to be such an every man that you you
Speaker 7: didn't know how he felt about anything, whatever beliefs you
Speaker 7: thought he had, or you maybe project your own beliefs
Speaker 7: onto him and be like, oh, I'm sure he thinks
Speaker 7: like this, because that's what made him quote Ico transcended.
Speaker 4: That's like people were so surprised when they saw he
Speaker 4: was listening to Ken what that is? That's my that
Speaker 4: is my uncle, like my uncle, my uncle Brod.
Speaker 5: I love my uncle the death like and he was
Speaker 5: like a big musical influence from me. And you know
Speaker 5: he was listening to pe Funk and all that stuff.
Speaker 5: But hip hop just wasn't his thing. So it's like
Speaker 5: certain men like born in the South, Yeah, like that
Speaker 5: just wasn't them.
Speaker 4: I mean, we love him blackness.
Speaker 9: I can tell by the black and white of his
Speaker 9: eyes today that he's black as hell.
Speaker 8: I'm just saying, you tell.
Speaker 5: Them jeans shout out to ever created what the fuck
Speaker 5: is Michael Jordan wearing?
Speaker 3: But the thing is Jordan was still rock that ship
Speaker 3: right now. Yes, yes, so today today.
Speaker 7: Like he ain't even got to the poort where he
Speaker 7: upgraded to be a time joiner cruise fresh, Like he
Speaker 7: ain't even there yet.
Speaker 3: You can't tell him ship.
Speaker 6: I'd be throwing off if he wore like a good
Speaker 6: tapered suit, and I'd be throwing off if he had
Speaker 6: something fitted.
Speaker 7: Yeah, despite the fact he has like he should be
Speaker 7: wearing euro cut with the slender Physicah.
Speaker 3: He should.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I agree that he could have been less a political
Speaker 5: but I also understand the times under which when that
Speaker 5: shit went down, And I also understand for someone like
Speaker 5: him from his generation where he's from, I understood his
Speaker 5: definition of success and revolution and standing up for his
Speaker 5: people looks very different than what it looks like to
Speaker 5: people now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard, it's hardly a Kanye.
Speaker 3: No, No, he's not.
Speaker 7: He never He always embraced being black, like there was
Speaker 7: never any question he was that he was not this
Speaker 7: But the problem I think is that I think there's
Speaker 7: some degree his miscalculation. Although it has obviously led to
Speaker 7: him attaining unbelievable wealth and being the only black NBA
Speaker 7: owner in the NBA, his miscalculation and sometimes this is
Speaker 7: many people in his position have done this that are black,
Speaker 7: is that they want to practice capitalism act. And I'm
Speaker 7: not sure if those two things were meant to be
Speaker 7: in the same sentence.
Speaker 3: As I said, charity does not.
Speaker 7: Fix structural inequality or institutional racism. It doesn't because you're
Speaker 7: dependent on charity to fix structural issues that were not
Speaker 7: created by the people giving this charity. Like as great
Speaker 7: as it is that Lebron has started his own school
Speaker 7: and he is changing lives, it can't do anything to
Speaker 7: fix ultimately, what's the real problem in acron is underfunded
Speaker 7: historically underfunded children, Black children in particular. You know, as
Speaker 7: great as it is that him for it, but this
Speaker 7: idea that I think in our community, and this is
Speaker 7: why I encourage us to not to be really very
Speaker 7: informed about how politics works, because I hear a lot
Speaker 7: of us saying like, I don't really, I don't, I
Speaker 7: don't do politics.
Speaker 3: No, you have to do politics.
Speaker 7: To make this work because the only way the structural
Speaker 7: inequality is gonna fixed is through politics. Because Lebron can't
Speaker 7: start one hundred schools to fix education in America.
Speaker 3: He can't. That can only come from policy. So we
Speaker 3: have to be involved on that.
Speaker 7: Level and understand that a lot of us give back
Speaker 7: to the community, a lot of us come back and
Speaker 7: try to buy buildings and bly to block it's still
Speaker 7: not fixing gentrification and red light it's still not fixing that.
Speaker 4: So we have to.
Speaker 3: It's a right start, but you.
Speaker 4: Got to start somewhere fix all this ship.
Speaker 3: No, but that's why you can't have one without the other.
Speaker 7: Like we can't continue to to disengage ourselves from the
Speaker 7: political process because you.
Speaker 3: Know, we we we.
Speaker 7: Think it's too hard or we don't want to fight
Speaker 7: that that fight. But it's like, no, the best thing
Speaker 7: that we could see happen is like we were talking
Speaker 7: earlier about Corey Bush, who you know is soon to
Speaker 7: be It looks like for sure she'll be Representative District
Speaker 7: one in in Missouri in St.
Speaker 3: Louis.
Speaker 7: This is a woman who started who was a Ferguson
Speaker 7: activist when Michael Brown was killed and for her to
Speaker 7: go from that to get to being a representative in
Speaker 7: Congress is huge. That's how you fix structural inequality because
Speaker 7: you have somebody there who understands the issues on the ground,
Speaker 7: somebody who is a single mother, homeless, domestic assault survivor,
Speaker 7: I'm sorry, domestic violence survivor, sexual assault survivor, somebody who
Speaker 7: understands at a basic level what it's like not to
Speaker 7: have and has and is in a position now to
Speaker 7: sit on committees, impact policy, change neighborhood.
Speaker 3: You gotta that's what you gotta have.
Speaker 7: Like, it's like, you gotta have that because if you don't,
Speaker 7: it's like the charitable stuff will come, will be depending
Speaker 7: on somebody in our community attaining generational wealth, which is
Speaker 7: not easy to do.
Speaker 3: To fix some shit. Yeah, it's a crap shoot.
Speaker 7: So it's like we gotta like even you don't even
Speaker 7: have to become a rep. If you just sit on
Speaker 7: a school board, you be shocked. You can change yo,
Speaker 7: go to a PA, run your PTA. See what happened,
Speaker 7: start ap PTA.
Speaker 5: What we're going through this shit right now with all
Speaker 5: the schools you know where everything going on, virtual going online,
Speaker 5: and nah, we're going through it.
Speaker 4: This shit is insane. This is insane.
Speaker 7: Now more than ever is the time where we need
Speaker 7: to retake a lot of our local political structures because they're.
Speaker 3: There to be had.
Speaker 7: You know, if somebody asked me, what's how would you
Speaker 7: how would you summarize twenty twenty, and I said I
Speaker 7: would summarize it. My only takeaway or the biggest takeaway
Speaker 7: we need to think about for twenty twenty is district
Speaker 7: attorneys are elected positions.
Speaker 3: That's what we need to take away from this.
Speaker 7: Understand, most DA's run unopposed, most of them do, and
Speaker 7: so most of us do not vote in local elections.
Speaker 7: And that is how because we have who the president
Speaker 7: is is powerful, not saying that, but who your mayory is.
Speaker 4: Who's on the police, your judges, all.
Speaker 7: That judges like you gotta vote in those elections because
Speaker 7: you can really change your city, Like just by voting,
Speaker 7: you could truly change it. You could get in the
Speaker 7: people who understand systemic racism and criminal justice reform, who
Speaker 7: understand because das have so much influence about what cases
Speaker 7: to prosecute. If you have a DA that is not
Speaker 7: holding the police accountable, vote them out, vote them out.
Speaker 7: You could put somebody on the ballot who will carry
Speaker 7: justice the way it deserves to be carried in our communities.
Speaker 7: And that's why I said, like, we got to stop
Speaker 7: this conversation about feeling like it's a badge of honor
Speaker 7: to not be politically engaged. We can't afford to do that.
Speaker 7: We will fail our communities and act like.
Speaker 9: Just because you don't like both the candidate is one
Speaker 9: hundred percent that you just I don't like them.
Speaker 3: You know how you change that?
Speaker 8: It's like you change that.
Speaker 7: But being involved from the start, like what we have
Speaker 7: right now, that's on the ticket, however you feel about
Speaker 7: it didn't have to be that way. We have plenty
Speaker 7: of opportunities to make sure there was different.
Speaker 3: People on the ticket.
Speaker 8: It didn't right primary exactly.
Speaker 7: Hey, as long as our young people and if they
Speaker 7: as long as they continue to not vote, you keep.
Speaker 3: Doing what you're doing, you're gonna keep getting what you're getting,
Speaker 3: all right.
Speaker 6: We are quasi noted for being a music podcast. We're
Speaker 6: all things to all podcasts.
Speaker 3: I will podcast matter, yeah exactly.
Speaker 4: Well, no we're not all.
Speaker 6: So I will ask you, uh, and you cannot include
Speaker 6: any greatest sets or box sets compilations.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's important distinction you're.
Speaker 2: Right, we're in the second wave of quarantining for two
Speaker 2: years straight.
Speaker 6: What five physical albums are you allowed to listen to
Speaker 6: for that duration.
Speaker 2: Of two years?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 2: Records.
Speaker 7: So because I ask people this all the time, I've
Speaker 7: always prepared for this answer for the most part, and
Speaker 7: because I prefer to ask people, I call it the
Speaker 7: Desert Island question. I prefer to ask him that as
Speaker 7: opposed to like five mcs, like you got to go
Speaker 7: with the things that mean something to you.
Speaker 3: So for I used to.
Speaker 6: Do on this show gun to the Head, but they
Speaker 6: said it's too violent.
Speaker 2: So without gun to the head, I'll just say quarantine.
Speaker 7: Quarantine five five albums Songs in the Key of Life, okay,
Speaker 7: h for sure, Ready.
Speaker 3: To Die Biggie.
Speaker 2: Number four Okay, yep.
Speaker 7: I'm also I mean because I'm gonna make sure I
Speaker 7: get this album Mary Jay is.
Speaker 2: My Life Okay, number three, I'm.
Speaker 3: Gonna take the roots. Do you want more?
Speaker 7: And I'm not I'm not to say that just because,
Speaker 7: like you know, I think about like literally like life
Speaker 7: changing album.
Speaker 8: Just go ahead, finish your.
Speaker 7: List, and I think I'm gonna take because I want
Speaker 7: to say and I'm not.
Speaker 3: I'm just trying to think. You know what. No, Anita
Speaker 3: Baker Compositions.
Speaker 5: Oh you go, compositions, okay, dress, that's my love.
Speaker 7: Compositions, Compositions. I've gotten the many argument about Compositions being
Speaker 7: her best album. That's no shade any of her work.
Speaker 7: But I'm telling you Compositions is flawless.
Speaker 5: Top now that run, that rapture, giving you the best
Speaker 5: that I got in Compositions.
Speaker 6: If she would let her catalog extreme, I could actually
Speaker 6: wait in opinion.
Speaker 9: Wow, I never even checked for It's.
Speaker 2: Only on title.
Speaker 6: You could be you can barely find the angel anywhere else,
Speaker 6: Like there is no meet I need a Baker on
Speaker 6: Spotify or that's.
Speaker 8: Why you got Laylan and got her in the.
Speaker 2: Clinch, her and Her and d.
Speaker 4: Her cover of Analiah. Yeah, her cover of records.
Speaker 7: You can only get a none but the number unfortunately,
Speaker 7: but black was it one in a billion?
Speaker 3: Because that's a million?
Speaker 4: No, this is nothing.
Speaker 5: All the black Ground ships are like Tank first two albums.
Speaker 5: I think, yep, all that ship on Blackground.
Speaker 7: Is Nothing's his name Barry Hankerson, right, he holding all
Speaker 7: that ship hostage, Uncle Barry, especially a Leada ship like
Speaker 7: you just I'm so I'm glad I had her CDs,
Speaker 7: like I have a needed ship because I got.
Speaker 4: All s away because I thought, get them.
Speaker 7: Yeah, well I have the CDs, but I also put
Speaker 7: them on a on a hard drive, so I had
Speaker 7: the hard drive with I was like, oh no, I
Speaker 7: love that.
Speaker 4: So you're sorry, choices you have very Yeah, I'm surprised.
Speaker 4: Ain't Mic make it in that No, MJ. I thought,
Speaker 4: I thought I got.
Speaker 7: I thought about it as well because I was struggling
Speaker 7: between his first album, because I still you know, I think, uh,
Speaker 7: you know, Off the Wall is better than Thriller. I think, yeah,
Speaker 7: I think I struggle with with picking a Michael Jackson
Speaker 7: album or a Prints album. The problem is with both
Speaker 7: of them they have so much. I mean not that
Speaker 7: Stevie Wonder doesn't, but like to me, songs in the
Speaker 7: Kia Life is like literally a perfect album. So yeah, no,
Speaker 7: I just thought to think about the things that I
Speaker 7: have on like constant repeat, and as much as I
Speaker 7: love those artists, it's like, I mean, I was listening
Speaker 7: to My Life like literally a couple of days ago.
Speaker 4: That Joy from top to bottom.
Speaker 3: It's a banger.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna say that, you know, I'm saying it's a
Speaker 6: curious choice because I think if actually in that situation,
Speaker 6: I don't listen to not the albums that I like
Speaker 6: but like, it would be easy to stay off the wall.
Speaker 2: But I think I would get tired of off the
Speaker 2: wall after.
Speaker 3: Ye after a certain amount of spans two.
Speaker 6: Months of that, so I you know, I would actually
Speaker 6: pick like Blood on the.
Speaker 2: No, Yo, I'm gonna tell you something. I'm gonna tell
Speaker 2: you something I got.
Speaker 6: I got caught in a Michael Jackson rabbit hole, and
Speaker 6: I decided I was going to teach myself to accept
Speaker 6: or like and Invincible.
Speaker 2: Yes, that joints.
Speaker 4: The ones that hit hit on Invents Butterfly.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna I'm gonna be in so much trouble when
Speaker 6: we get to the writing Jerkins episode.
Speaker 5: No You, the Jerkins joints wasn't the ones that went
Speaker 5: off on that album, the ones that he it was
Speaker 5: it was Rocked My World. Well I did like rock
Speaker 5: My World. That was him break it an Butterflies weight.
Speaker 3: Listen. It's like.
Speaker 7: It may not have I mean to think about Michael
Speaker 7: Jackson is like you get so spoiled, like the fact
Speaker 7: that that people at the time considered bad to be
Speaker 7: a disappointment, and that's like.
Speaker 8: Garrett, like see what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: It's like, but his highs were so high that if
Speaker 7: Michael on a on a twelve a twelve song album,
Speaker 7: if only four or five of them joints are bankers,
Speaker 7: You're like, this is a disappointment.
Speaker 3: You're like, what you know?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 5: I always say, also think it's something too, it has
Speaker 5: to be something racist at work. I always thought it
Speaker 5: was something crazy that the Eagles always got the record for,
Speaker 5: like the album go Higher and hire this is.
Speaker 4: The greatest hit. So I'm like, that's bullshit, Like you.
Speaker 5: Matther fuckers had to compile all y'all best ship on
Speaker 5: one album to have smoke for a nigga that made
Speaker 5: an album of all his that ship.
Speaker 4: Like, get the funk out of here. I didn't make it, y'all.
Speaker 5: Niggas need the greatest his album to funk with the
Speaker 5: nine jams I just did and smashing all y'all ship,
Speaker 5: I don't think should be there.
Speaker 4: That's the biggest Eagle song.
Speaker 6: California Hotel, California, best of My Love and you kid
Speaker 6: in Town, I said.
Speaker 8: Like crossing, that's only one knew that ship.
Speaker 2: That's like the one sure version.
Speaker 3: I know that's a fact. Ship, that's a fact.
Speaker 8: It was.
Speaker 2: It was, but you know we did a i'l be
Speaker 2: sure episode was episode.
Speaker 6: But the day that I got private times in the
Speaker 6: whole nine.
Speaker 3: Ship Mannie, that was.
Speaker 5: That was on the sixty Versus album.
Speaker 4: I love it.
Speaker 7: And by the way, Chris, uh, what what blood sacrifice
Speaker 7: do I have to make to get you.
Speaker 2: To make it happen? Let's let's make it happen.
Speaker 8: Will make it.
Speaker 7: Happen because deep dive into how you possibly don't like
Speaker 7: Bad Boys too. We're gonna go deep dive. But by
Speaker 7: the way, when you when you said the Tyler Perry
Speaker 7: rabbit hole, did you watch Fall from Grace?
Speaker 3: Is that what happened?
Speaker 8: Now?
Speaker 5: Did I watch it?
Speaker 7: But first of all, is okay.
Speaker 6: How I came up was the debate on Bad Boys
Speaker 6: got so bad? Then I was like, well, I might
Speaker 6: as well throw this grenade into the argument. Can you
Speaker 6: guys differentiate what what's the When we determined that Bad
Speaker 6: Boys was a classic.
Speaker 4: Film, that but that wasn't a good movie.
Speaker 2: That wasn't a good movie.
Speaker 6: Then I just wanted some suggestions on what do we
Speaker 6: consider like what Til Perry works are that?
Speaker 2: And I think I want.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I said good deeds, good deeds for me.
Speaker 10: I was like, good deeds was all right?
Speaker 9: And you know what family that praise was. I'm gonna
Speaker 9: say that's Kathy Baits, right, Yep, that's Cathy Baits.
Speaker 4: That was ran together.
Speaker 9: But I'm telling you the Fall from Grace.
Speaker 4: Yea fall Grace was just incoherent.
Speaker 9: It was like, it's the greatest bad ship you've ever seen,
Speaker 9: Like it, Oh my god.
Speaker 8: It's amazing you do that.
Speaker 9: But I mean, you got bad wigs, you got you know,
Speaker 9: Tyler Perry he filmed as a tire movie in three hours,
Speaker 9: like unbelieved, right.
Speaker 5: Just two hours more than it took him to write
Speaker 5: it like icon and this, You're like, how did you.
Speaker 8: Get he gets her everything?
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 10: It's so much happening and I mean that I don't
Speaker 10: know if.
Speaker 9: You agree with this, uhlo, But they plot twist actually
Speaker 9: went bad.
Speaker 4: It No, the plot was horrible because it was just.
Speaker 8: The only people in this world.
Speaker 5: I don't want to spoil that, but it was I
Speaker 5: can't say it without spoiling.
Speaker 4: But it was just the end part bad film.
Speaker 10: That's that's a fair question, even know.
Speaker 5: And I'm gonna be real, even though I walk into
Speaker 5: a Tyler Perry movie, I know what I'm getting. I'm
Speaker 5: not expecting, you know what, even by Tyler Perry senters.
Speaker 4: So this was just bad.
Speaker 10: It was disrespectful to the craft. But you get to
Speaker 10: watch it.
Speaker 6: Wait, where does where does it like compared to uh,
Speaker 6: what's this series?
Speaker 9: Oh, sisters, I've never seen it.
Speaker 4: I heard that I haven't have not. She swears, I
Speaker 4: haven't have not.
Speaker 9: I watched one episode. Have y'all watched that oval off
Speaker 9: and ship?
Speaker 8: I can't, honestly, I can't.
Speaker 9: I've ever seen ever put on television ever, and it's
Speaker 9: not close. There's no way that had Notts is as
Speaker 9: bad as this.
Speaker 10: There's no way. I refuse to believe that.
Speaker 9: I was just like what I mean, it's fuckery, it's coterie,
Speaker 9: it's fuckery, it's all of that, like it is.
Speaker 10: I got through an episode that.
Speaker 4: Yes, the O.
Speaker 8: It was.
Speaker 10: I know it's back for another season. Y'all saw the think.
Speaker 9: I saw the think about how Tyler period to basically
Speaker 9: feel about sixty two movies during COVID. Somehow he got
Speaker 9: the COVID test like.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and he built like he built like housing for
Speaker 5: people like to stay on his like a state and
Speaker 5: ship looking.
Speaker 8: Forward in two years. The stories about this ship that's.
Speaker 9: The Tyler period formula. Is he only paying one person
Speaker 9: per movie?
Speaker 7: Like, it's just it's only he getting one You're only
Speaker 7: paying one person. Okay, shout out to Doragi Hinton because
Speaker 7: he got had some checks.
Speaker 10: But she's gonna be the only what did that.
Speaker 8: Movie gets paid?
Speaker 4: Shot shouting girl shout.
Speaker 10: I think her and.
Speaker 9: It might have been the only two people who got
Speaker 9: paid to every No way, everybody else had to do
Speaker 9: that for free. That Oh wait, hold up another one, dude.
Speaker 9: Did you see acrobody.
Speaker 4: Man achroon it? Yeah?
Speaker 6: I watched it on the plane once and then halfway
Speaker 6: through had to take it off because I didn't want
Speaker 6: the people behind me judging me. You know, like when
Speaker 6: you're watching a really bad film on the plane and
Speaker 6: someone might be behind you judging you.
Speaker 2: That's how I felt about Acrimony.
Speaker 8: I'm still trying to figure.
Speaker 10: Out how you got on the yacht. I'm still trying
Speaker 10: to figure this out. I'm like, did she fly? Like?
Speaker 8: Oh that okay?
Speaker 5: They have like it's just big plot holes. I'm like, dude,
Speaker 5: this is it's just incoherent.
Speaker 8: It's like the Long It's a lot of them, so
Speaker 8: I'm just okay.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the n Alon one, Yeah, that was going on affair,
Speaker 5: fatal affair.
Speaker 10: Wait, that was that one?
Speaker 4: Yes, that was what that was. But it's in the
Speaker 4: same it's in the same neighborhood.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 5: And if you actually look at Fatal Affair as a
Speaker 5: sequel to Juice, it is tracked like but if you
Speaker 5: look at.
Speaker 2: The Juice, it wasn't.
Speaker 8: It wasn't.
Speaker 5: It wasn't.
Speaker 6: It wasn't, but he is.
Speaker 5: You look at it as a you with me with
Speaker 5: you with me with the vision.
Speaker 9: No, you gotta watch it like it's it's we in college,
Speaker 9: we used to have bad Black movie nights, so we
Speaker 9: saw all the master piece movies like because I.
Speaker 5: Want something about it the other night after the again,
Speaker 5: because we had it on tape, like me and my
Speaker 5: boy we had it.
Speaker 4: We had the vhs, like in the dorm watching that ship.
Speaker 5: Now twenty plus years later. Oh man, it's a fucking masterpiece.
Speaker 8: Okay, yeah, that's a masterpiece of the Bad Boys.
Speaker 5: Ain't exactly and I stand on it, right, but.
Speaker 4: It is on.
Speaker 2: The you know what's weird? All right?
Speaker 6: So I have these conversations with and she swears up
Speaker 6: and down that Black Night with Martin Lawrence is a masterpiece.
Speaker 4: She lion, I gotta hear, we gotta get him on
Speaker 4: the show.
Speaker 2: She got it.
Speaker 8: She got to stand on that.
Speaker 2: She even talk to me unless I watch it completely.
Speaker 10: Have you watched it?
Speaker 4: A look on his face.
Speaker 5: Like fadal Affair, y'all gotta watch fal Affair that moving night.
Speaker 4: She don't with the.
Speaker 2: Better she dude, she no mans, She'll kill me.
Speaker 8: Damn.
Speaker 2: I can't bring no bulls into the table. What I
Speaker 2: can't bring any bullshit to.
Speaker 9: The table, not fun bullshit Like that's like fedal Fairs
Speaker 9: is fun bullshit.
Speaker 2: Yeah she can, like if it's not bettering in her life.
Speaker 6: She's like, oh man, yeah, I can't.
Speaker 8: That's what you know.
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