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Speaker 1: Court Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 3: What's Up?

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Speaker 4: This is Fon Tibolo from Team Supreme.

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Speaker 5: We all celebrating Black History Month of QLs and releasing

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Speaker 5: new weekly interviews with some incredible guests from film and music.

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Speaker 5: In the meantime, we've selected some special classic episodes as well,

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Speaker 5: which we run on Mondays. This classic two part of

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Speaker 5: Less is from September twenty twenty, and it is with

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Speaker 5: the incredible my homie, My friend, Jamel Hill. Jamel is

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Speaker 5: not only someone to call a friend, She's one of

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Speaker 5: the most important voices in sports where she always leaves

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Speaker 5: in art, politics, and social issues.

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Speaker 2: And we love her for it.

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Speaker 5: Please make sure you hurt part one before you check

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Speaker 5: this in your feed. In part two, Jamel talks about

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Speaker 5: some important basketball history. We have a deep dive discussion

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Speaker 5: remembering Detroit's hip hop mayor Kwame Kirkpatrick, and we get

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Speaker 5: Desert Island Top five Albums, which has a couple surprises.

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Speaker 5: I know it surprised me. Y'all enjoyed this episode, man,

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Speaker 5: we did. Jamel is the homie. This is a lot

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Speaker 5: of one skill less peace.

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Speaker 2: One Detroit story.

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Speaker 6: I've been dying to know that I haven't asked anyone

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Speaker 6: well versed in sports or from the area, is where

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Speaker 6: were you on November nineteen, two thousand and four.

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Speaker 2: Malice at the Palace.

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Speaker 7: Malice at the Palace? Oh man, I knew you were

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Speaker 7: going here. I was like, it's gonna probably be about

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Speaker 7: malice for the Palace.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, there is no sports besides Jordan Highlight real.

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Speaker 2: Films on YouTube.

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Speaker 6: I watched that religiously, like I know every frame of

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Speaker 6: that brawl.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, so Malice at the Palace? What was this?

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Speaker 7: So Malice at the Palace was? It was a scrap

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Speaker 7: like you know, now call the NBA fight something you like?

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Speaker 7: These just too motherfucker's backpler Like, no, Malice at the

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Speaker 7: Palace is why you don't see scraps in the NBA anymore?

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Speaker 4: Have you seen I've never seen it. I didn't know

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Speaker 4: what it was.

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Speaker 7: I don't know if they show it.

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Speaker 6: It is by far the worst fight I've ever seen

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Speaker 6: an NBA history.

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Speaker 3: It's magical.

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Speaker 7: You'll have to text in the footage because it's like

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Speaker 7: completely magical.

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Speaker 6: It's it's going to be its own thirty for thirty episode.

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Speaker 2: I feel it.

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Speaker 7: Well, I don't think it will the only reason something like, well,

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Speaker 7: something I learned at ESPN is that the NBA is

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Speaker 7: extremely strict about you. It's a reason you don't see

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Speaker 7: malice from the Palace footage like ever, like you see

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Speaker 7: it in the Pistons dock.

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Speaker 3: I think you saw it, like the Bad Boys. I

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Speaker 3: feel like I think it might.

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Speaker 7: Be in it might have been in there, but like

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Speaker 7: you don't really see it because the NBA does not

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Speaker 7: allow clearance of the footage of that. Because I remember

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Speaker 7: when I was, yeah, when I was at the when

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Speaker 7: I was at ESPN, it was a five year anniversary,

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Speaker 7: and it was some things I wanted to do with

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Speaker 7: talking about the fight, and I couldn't do them because

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Speaker 7: the NBA would not give ESPN permission to do this.

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Speaker 3: So they tried to like this did not happen.

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Speaker 7: Thomas like Pistons, Like no, no, this was this was

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Speaker 7: the Pistons era with Rip Hamilton and Ben Wallace, uh

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Speaker 7: Tayshaun Prince Rashe Wallace. Oh yeah, so what happened was

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Speaker 7: this It's like Indiana at this point, because I know

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Speaker 7: it's hard to look at the Pistons now because we're

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Speaker 7: so shitty, but yes, we actually used to be a

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Speaker 7: very good basketball team in the early two thousand when

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Speaker 7: Martin was sorry that I was like.

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Speaker 2: That year they were they won the championship in two

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Speaker 7: Yeah, we won the championship at oh four. What happened

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Speaker 7: was is that Indiana and Detroit were rivals. You know,

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Speaker 7: the Pistons went to six straight Eastern Conference finals. Indiana

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Speaker 7: was the other team jockey and for the position and basically,

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Speaker 7: you know, the the Pacers had kind of had a

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Speaker 7: very statement win. It was on national TV statement win

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Speaker 7: at the Palace, whipped the Pistons whole entire ass like

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Speaker 7: beat they ass and the last maybe minute of the game,

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Speaker 7: it might have been maybe like the last thirty seconds

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Speaker 7: run our tests decides he he is gonna not only

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Speaker 7: game and the fight. So so he has been egging

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Speaker 7: on being Wallace this entire game. You know Bill Wallace

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Speaker 7: Rady Defensive Player of the year. He one of them

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Speaker 7: country strong brothers, Like this year is unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: So went to McNee state like he he.

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Speaker 7: With the bullshit, right, So, so you know, he had

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Speaker 7: been needling them the whole game and being is like

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Speaker 7: he shoved round our tests and run our test. Decides

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Speaker 7: to go over, you know, because that's what he does.

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Speaker 7: He agitates people run our tests. You know, they teend

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Speaker 7: up being you know, players getting the faces. But no,

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Speaker 7: Biggie Rodard Test goes over to the scores table and

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Speaker 7: decides to lay down, just lay down flat across the.

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Speaker 3: On the scores table, right.

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Speaker 7: And so he's laying down on the scores table and

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Speaker 7: out of the stands comes a beer that hits him

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Speaker 7: while he's on the scores.

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Speaker 3: Table and round our test.

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Speaker 7: It took him about zero point five seconds before he

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Speaker 7: got up, charging to the stands and beat the ship

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Speaker 7: out the wrong fan.

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Speaker 3: He didn't beat the shit.

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Speaker 7: Out of the dude, the right one that through the beer,

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Speaker 7: because he didn't get to him.

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Speaker 3: He got to this one dude.

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Speaker 7: And then next thing, you know, the fans jump in,

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Speaker 7: they jumping him. Then the players from the pacers they

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Speaker 7: go into the stands and Stephen Jackson goes right up

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Speaker 7: into the Because Stephen Jackson was was Ron our Test's teammate.

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Speaker 7: So y'all know how Stephen Jackson, Captain jack get down.

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Speaker 3: He does not fuck around either like.

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Speaker 7: It was a whole bunch of people from the not

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Speaker 7: fucking a Round crew on two teams and that's why.

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Speaker 7: So they in the stands fighting the stands. Meanwhile fans

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Speaker 7: decide to come on to the floor. And I'm sure

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Speaker 7: this is probably Quest's favorite part. This one thing came

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Speaker 7: up to the store and I swear to god, Jermaine

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Speaker 7: O'Neil almost ended his life.

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Speaker 3: He all about five for five.

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Speaker 7: He gonna roll up on six eleven, Jermaine O'Neill, and

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Speaker 7: he got the two piece, the biscuit, the sides, and

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Speaker 7: a large orange.

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Speaker 4: He got old down.

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Speaker 3: To make sure he cleansed his palate. He got all

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Speaker 7: So you are just seeing pockets of ass whoopings happened

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Speaker 7: all around the arena. So when you go back and

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Speaker 7: watch the footage, you could literally watch a different ass

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Speaker 3: It's just unbelievable.

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Speaker 8: They removed it from YouTube, y'all.

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Speaker 7: They might have because the NBA is again very protective

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Speaker 7: about this footage. So they showed this on the Jordan

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Speaker 7: the last day. So really what happened was that wine

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Speaker 7: that wound up honestly ruining uh, the the pacers domination

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Speaker 7: at the time, you know, because they handed out rod

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Speaker 7: our tests got the largest suspension, non drug suspension in

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Speaker 7: NBA history. You know, he was gone for the rest

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Speaker 7: of the season. Jermaine O'Neill. They gave him like sixty games.

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Speaker 7: He might as well have been gone for the season.

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Speaker 7: It completely tore apart their entire team. So, yeah, to

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Speaker 7: answer you a question about where I was, I actually

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Speaker 7: I was a sports reporter then, but I was covering

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Speaker 7: college football and basketball.

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Speaker 3: I was in Happy Valley. I was at Penn State

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Speaker 3: because I State.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I was at pan State and we were watching

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Speaker 7: at the bar, and I'm sitting there watching like, what

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Speaker 7: the hell just happened? And not surprisingly, people use this

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Speaker 7: as an opportunity to take a lot of shots at

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Speaker 7: Detroit because clearly we have a reputation for being a

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Speaker 7: But what I had to constantly remind people and what

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Speaker 7: they didn't say, the Palace of Auburn Hills, what this

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Speaker 7: happened is a good hour from Detroit. It's in the

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Speaker 7: richest county in Michigan. Black folks were not going to

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Speaker 7: like all the people you see getting they ass whooped.

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Speaker 3: The only person who got.

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Speaker 7: They asswhipped that was black iness was Fred Jones who

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Speaker 7: was on the Indiana Pacers. His brother got his ass

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Speaker 7: beat down by Bill Wallace's brother, Black on black crime

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Speaker 7: at his finest, like, that's not only black people. You

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Speaker 7: just see no black people running up on Ron our Tests.

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Speaker 7: You did see the black people. Didn't know black people

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Speaker 7: throw shit. We ain't douce shit. That was not our shit, Okay.

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Speaker 7: That was some white folks acting a food okay, and

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Speaker 7: they were about to get exactly now, I will say this,

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Speaker 7: I am thankful it did happen at the Palace, which

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Speaker 7: again is in a very zat suburban because if that

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Speaker 8: It would have been people waiting outside.

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Speaker 7: This you got to understand how we do it in

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Speaker 7: the d Now, that ship might have been something else, Okay,

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Speaker 7: that would have been a tragedy and not just that

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Speaker 7: ass whip it because like, we don't play that shit.

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Speaker 5: And so yeah, I knew Ron our Tests was a

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Speaker 5: different dude when like I did. I'm not I wasn't

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Speaker 5: a sports fan at all. I knew Ron was a

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Speaker 5: different nigga when I heard his Michael Jackson tribute song. Okay,

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Speaker 5: Michael Michael, Michael.

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Speaker 4: My nigga, you.

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Speaker 3: Make this up.

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Speaker 4: I'm not making this up.

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Speaker 5: Google, ron Or Tests Michael Jackson's tribute Now you released

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Speaker 5: it like the day after Michael Jackson died, and it

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Speaker 5: was like, what the fuck?

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Speaker 4: Michael Michael, Michael, you my nigga. I'm not lying about Test. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I thought you would have knew this to me, the

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Speaker 5: way you like to play like.

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Speaker 3: He just found it. Oh god, oh.

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Speaker 4: Wow, Michael Michael, Michael, you my nigga.

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Speaker 3: And the fact that you know the course is ending

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Speaker 3: right now, that's.

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Speaker 4: How I know Ron Tests.

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Speaker 5: I mean I knew when he became Metal World peace

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Speaker 5: right that's name.

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Speaker 2: Now Well.

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Speaker 6: M w well what I was leading to, Well, your

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Speaker 6: one was where were you at when it happened? But

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Speaker 6: Detroit has such I know, like, yes, the Philadelphia that

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Speaker 6: always had to face Boston. Yes, I can attest to

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Speaker 6: the fact that many a racial moment at the hands

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Speaker 6: of Boston fans have occurred, and you know I've seen it.

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Speaker 2: But I'll say that Detroit probably.

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Speaker 6: Has the second most intense fan base next to Philadelphia,

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Speaker 6: which Philadelphia is yeah, no, but it's well, okay, maybe

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Speaker 6: as a team, not the fans. We are the worst

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Speaker 6: fans of all time. But is it necessary for you

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Speaker 6: guys to always be like the bad boys of whatever?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's in basketball.

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Speaker 7: It is something we wear with honor because understand that

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Speaker 7: when the bad Boys were winning, we interrupted a narrative

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Speaker 7: that was going on in the NBA at that time.

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Speaker 7: It was supposed to be Magic and Larry Bird. That

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Speaker 7: was the error, right, that was the rivalry. And then

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Speaker 7: here comes Isaiah Thomas out of nowhere having a nerve

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Speaker 3: People just don't deserve nice things. That's just been the.

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Speaker 7: Exactly, like you think we're bad boys. Okay, let's see what.

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Speaker 3: When you run into anybody from Detroit, you're like, damn,

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Speaker 7: That's how we are, you know, and so and for that,

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Speaker 3: It's like, you know, we just tough, We just we

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Speaker 5: Now, y'all got a chip. So I'm a production part

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Speaker 5: of ZOUL. He's Detroit and talk to him. Yeah, it

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Speaker 4: But in being around him.

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Speaker 5: He just explained to me, I kind of got that

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna show you like it's that thing.

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Speaker 5: And it's and it's even different than like a Chicago

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and we I mean we ride for our folks.

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Speaker 3: Was just just.

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Speaker 7: Throwing shots at Detroit about oh this is what you

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Speaker 3: Definitely.

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Speaker 6: Question Barry Sanders, did you ever get to meet him,

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Speaker 2: Anything like that.

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Speaker 3: Like I said, I'm ten thousand years old even so.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: So here here's the the unusualness about my my Detroit fandom.

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Speaker 3: So damn shitty.

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Speaker 7: Like you, if you can see in my background, you

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Speaker 4: I'm a forty nine ers.

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Speaker 7: Yes, the big helmet is mine because we actually win things,

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Speaker 7: he's the only running back probably in history that could

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Speaker 7: Barry still lives in Detroit, and that's yeah, he still

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Speaker 7: And that's the people we that gives us a special

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Speaker 3: I mean that's just love.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Yo, Okay, that reminds me speaking of Detroit, because

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Speaker 5: I don't think me and you never talked about this

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Speaker 4: What is your Detroit take? On? Kwame?

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Speaker 9: I was about to ask in the middle, I was

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Speaker 10: I was like, well, that.

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Speaker 8: Nigga cme definitely made it.

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Speaker 7: I mean that might be the most that might be

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Speaker 5: They was talking about it for a minute and then

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Speaker 7: Was about It was about women who, like they they

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Speaker 3: The women involve will call me is like what y'all

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Speaker 7: Yes, it's Oh my god, that's what I mean.

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Speaker 3: That's what I remember.

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Speaker 8: I remember text to texting. It's been so long.

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Speaker 3: It's just such a his story.

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Speaker 7: And I was there when when all of it unfolding,

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Speaker 3: Him down, you know. So Kwame. Yeah, I don't know

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Speaker 3: if y'all remember this, but Kwame was built. He was

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Speaker 4: Mayor is over here we go in five.

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Speaker 7: Out there in nine button suits, the Steve Harvey Specials

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 7: He proposed of this and uh so he it's a

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Speaker 7: He in his early thirties. He the mayor of Detroit,

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Speaker 3: Like I swear to guy every.

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Speaker 5: Really, yeah, that was the That was the original podcast.

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Speaker 7: So uh, the movie had a State with Chris Rock

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Speaker 3: He was a good mayor or No, it.

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Speaker 7: Was just about the fact that what happens when you

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Speaker 7: The urban legend is that Kwame Kilpatrick threw a party there,

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Speaker 4: Said they was there.

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Speaker 3: He threw this party.

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Speaker 7: Wife, he goes out of town, wife, he circles back

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Speaker 7: So then you know this party like people spent I

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Speaker 7: Whatever happened, long story short is that, uh, he was

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Speaker 3: friends with her, friends with her husband. Now this is

445
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Speaker 3: all on the record.

446
00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:00,960
Speaker 7: So he had an affair with Christine Beatty, and what

447
00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,399
Speaker 7: happened is dirty macket.

448
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:04,919
Speaker 3: It was just a dirty mackett.

449
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 7: Is that he used city money to continue his dirty,

450
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:12,080
Speaker 7: dirty the dirty Mackett. So he some of his security

451
00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:15,240
Speaker 7: detail figured out that they were having an affair and

452
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,040
Speaker 7: he was trying to get them to lie for him

453
00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,760
Speaker 7: and do all you know, like you can't do that, right,

454
00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:23,080
Speaker 7: and so uh, they he fired one of them.

455
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Speaker 3: The dude that he fired wound up suing him and.

456
00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:29,080
Speaker 7: All these part of the evidence was all these text messages.

457
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Speaker 3: So I'm just trying to figure out how.

458
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Speaker 4: Let's clear all these text messages on company phone.

459
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:37,560
Speaker 3: Phones, on the city phones.

460
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Speaker 7: Here's a little uh, here's a little tip pro tip

461
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Speaker 7: that people may not know. We have something called the

462
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:48,280
Speaker 7: the uh freedom of right. It's called foy For sure,

463
00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:52,640
Speaker 7: any public official and government of office, you can put

464
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 7: in a Fourier requests and get everything they've written on

465
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:59,760
Speaker 7: city whatever, every all the text messages, anything, because anything

466
00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 7: you're governor local government does it is public information. It's

467
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 7: still a lot they may have to sue to get

468
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 7: it because some people try to block it, but it's

469
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:12,680
Speaker 7: all public information.

470
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 3: Like you could go.

471
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:17,239
Speaker 7: Down right now and ask for the like, you know,

472
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 7: the mayor's contract or the city contract with the police department.

473
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:21,120
Speaker 7: They have to give it to you because it's all

474
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 7: public information. So this is reporters. We use this all

475
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 7: the time to our advantage. So long story short, these

476
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 7: text messages, the free press gets them, and their text

477
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:35,080
Speaker 7: messages not only to Kwame and Christine Beatty, proven that

478
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 7: they did indeed have this affair, proven that he did

479
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:42,480
Speaker 7: fire this main person in his security detail because he

480
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,440
Speaker 7: did it out of vindictiveness and vengeance, because he wanted

481
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 7: him to try to cover up his affair, and he

482
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 7: wouldn't do it till he fired him.

483
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Speaker 3: And he wound up suing the city for eleven million dollars.

484
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:55,680
Speaker 7: And it was like a whole thing. These text messages

485
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:57,879
Speaker 7: were pure gold. I mean pure gold.

486
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Speaker 4: Yes, we were climing player.

487
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,880
Speaker 9: Actually, I think we used to read him out loud

488
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,400
Speaker 9: on the radio, like do a dramatic interpretation.

489
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 7: They're so unbelievable and you come to find out, you know,

490
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,400
Speaker 7: it wasn't just Christy Beattie, Like the mayor was out

491
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,119
Speaker 7: there doing his just told him I'm mac you know,

492
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 7: he was out there.

493
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Speaker 3: Doing his.

494
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Speaker 8: First song to hit me at this time.

495
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Speaker 9: I would just like to shout out to all the

496
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 9: young black mayors who are doing their thing. Asia Brown,

497
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:30,160
Speaker 9: I see you in Compton and Michael Tubbs and California Stockton,

498
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:31,200
Speaker 9: I see you as well.

499
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Speaker 3: Yes, oh yeah, and the new mayor of Ferguson first

500
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Speaker 3: black man.

501
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Speaker 9: Wait, she's not my Black Lives Matter sister though, right,

502
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 9: it's that's.

503
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Speaker 3: The one who is.

504
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Speaker 7: She won the primary and it's poised to to win

505
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Speaker 7: a representative seat. But no, I mean so it was

506
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Speaker 7: just abject foolishness. And on top of all the things

507
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,399
Speaker 7: he was doing, he put his daddy on a city

508
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Speaker 7: contract that like.

509
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,360
Speaker 3: He never made it on. It was just foolish man.

510
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:59,239
Speaker 7: His boy, uh, he allowed him he had he had

511
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 7: done some reckless and he allowed him to report to

512
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Speaker 7: jail on the weekends.

513
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Speaker 3: And it turned out he wasn't even report to jail

514
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:05,119
Speaker 3: on the weekends.

515
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 7: It was like it was just every time he could

516
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Speaker 7: possibly steal, he figured out a way to try to

517
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Speaker 7: steal it.

518
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Speaker 5: But so basically he was the blueprint for Trump pretty much.

519
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 3: I mean pretty much.

520
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 7: I mean he he hooked up his family in a

521
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 7: very similar fashion. And you know, Detroit already a broke city,

522
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 7: so it's like we ain't even got shipped, and you

523
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 7: just so you have just stolen everything that wasn't nailed down.

524
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:32,640
Speaker 3: So gentrification yet hell yeah, we got it now.

525
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, not back then.

526
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Speaker 7: I mean you know, I mean there were some uh

527
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,680
Speaker 7: you know Detroit that's just like every like any city.

528
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 7: You know, it's right off the waterfront in Canada's our neighbor.

529
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 7: So all that all that stuff was, you know, they

530
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 7: basically waited on property values to be depressed.

531
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Speaker 3: And now I go downtown.

532
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Speaker 7: They got a Lululemon and a Whole Foods and I

533
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 7: can't believe it.

534
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:57,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, and a bunch of white people.

535
00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 7: Like now you go downtown Detroit, You going the restaurant,

536
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:01,639
Speaker 7: you might the only black person in there, which is

537
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 7: crazy to me.

538
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 6: Before the lockdown, I went to Detroit and I meant,

539
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:15,200
Speaker 6: you know, I still considered, especially when Dylan was here

540
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,239
Speaker 6: with us. I mean, I made a line share of

541
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 6: a lot of albums I'm known for in the city

542
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 6: of Detroit, and it is.

543
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:26,920
Speaker 2: Night and day.

544
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Speaker 9: Now.

545
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Speaker 6: I know a lot of that has to do with gentrification.

546
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:36,639
Speaker 6: I mean they're white, is okay? Well, yeah, I was

547
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 6: going to say, like, how do you feel about how

548
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 6: Detroit has transformed? Because now things that I've never seen

549
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 6: twenty years ago, like farmed the table, restaurants.

550
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 3: And yeah they call South Toronto now luxury.

551
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, luxury, luxury like hotels that were former firehouses or banks.

552
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 7: And yes, I know exactly where you stay if you

553
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 7: stayed that that converted all the time.

554
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 6: Yo, it's so luxurious or is that or is that

555
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:11,360
Speaker 6: a flim flam for tourists that just come to downtown Detroit.

556
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 6: Meanwhile the other miles five, six, seven, eight, not whatever.

557
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 7: Yeah, gentrification stops at a certain point. So for me

558
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,360
Speaker 7: it is Yeah, I'll be blunt. I don't like it.

559
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 7: And the reason I don't like it is not because

560
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 7: I don't want to see Detroit step into a progression,

561
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 7: and it's not that I don't want my city to

562
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 7: do well. I don't like it because for years and

563
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 7: years and years, there was a lot of black people,

564
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 7: a lot of black business owners who poured their sweat

565
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 7: equity into the city of Detroit, into downtown Detroit when

566
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 7: we wasn't fashionable to fuck with us, and they got

567
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 7: pushed out because there's there's not a lot of black

568
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 7: businesses down there.

569
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 3: You brought up Diyler.

570
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 7: His donut spot is one of the few black businesses

571
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,199
Speaker 7: that were down there. I think it may have closed

572
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,640
Speaker 7: since but the donuts were really good at any rate.

573
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,640
Speaker 7: So that's the part that I think not just in Detroit,

574
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 7: but Oakland, you go to most of the major cities.

575
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,880
Speaker 7: That's the part that doesn't sit well is that as

576
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:09,439
Speaker 7: soon as they able to flip the complexion of what

577
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:13,119
Speaker 7: the place looks like, then all of a sudden, grocery stores.

578
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 7: I mean when I when I was growing up, the

579
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 7: last department store Detroit closed and it wasn't one downtown

580
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,199
Speaker 7: for years, years and years and years. And now to

581
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 7: see like under Armour, Nike all these places correct, it's like,

582
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 7: now you got these, you know, million dollar condos and

583
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 7: swinging lofts and all that other stuff, which is which

584
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 7: is great, But I look at who's in these buildings,

585
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 7: who owns these buildings, and who's really benefiting off the

586
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 7: sweat equity that people who are real Detroit just put

587
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 7: into that place for years, and it's not us. So

588
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 7: it's it's it's a little hurtful to see.

589
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 2: Is the Anthemium still up the Atheneum?

590
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 3: Yep, it's still there. My problem was at the Athenium.

591
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 6: I gotta say that I believe I think the Anthemium

592
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 6: opened in ninety seven.

593
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 2: I believe either ninety six or ninety seven.

594
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 7: I think it opened before then because my prom was

595
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 7: there and I enjoyed it in ninety three, so.

596
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 6: Well they did they did something where they did to

597
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 6: repurpose right, and we were like one of the first

598
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 6: people stay there.

599
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 2: So it was like a brand new condo. Like it

600
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 2: was like a touch of elegance.

601
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 6: And then twenty years later, not quite say it's like

602
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 6: a two star hotel.

603
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, but they got better.

604
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 7: I mean they got a lot of great places now,

605
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 7: like you mentioned the converted firehouse, and then they got

606
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 7: a new joy, the Shinola Hotel, which is like, yeah, unbelievable.

607
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, say there too. Yeah, did you ever go to

608
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 2: the hip hop shop in your teen years? The spots

609
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 2: that Maurice Malone Like.

610
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I never went there.

611
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 7: A lot of my friends were there, but that's obviously

612
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 7: a very legendary place to go into Detroit, much like St. Andrew's,

613
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 7: which Fonte brought up earlier, like that those were like

614
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 7: kind of classic enclaves. I mean, I've seen so many

615
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 7: underground you know, folks at Saint Andrews and even people

616
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 7: who became you know, a really big deal like I

617
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 7: saw The first time I saw Jill Scott was at

618
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 7: Saint Andrews, you know, and she was there in the

619
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 7: middle of a blizzard and I was like, this woman

620
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 7: is incredible and I think getting it away had wasn't

621
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 7: even that hot yet. But the person I was dating

622
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 7: at the time was like, oh, you should check her out,

623
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 7: like she's dope, and he took me to the concert

624
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 7: and I was like, oh yeah, I fuck with her absolutely.

625
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 9: I was gonna say, it's the are the folks like

626
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 9: it seems like there's a nice collective of Detroit folks

627
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 9: that I've done well for themselves and still are connected

628
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 9: to the city.

629
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 8: I like, I know, Big Sean definitely a lot for Detroit.

630
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 3: Royce, the five nine, Yeah, I mean these are all

631
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 3: people want to ask you.

632
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:51,959
Speaker 8: How connected are folks?

633
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,959
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, no, you know, I've I've connected.

634
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 7: I did a podcast with Royce which was great, Like

635
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 7: Royce is just a real dude, Like love that dude.

636
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 7: Very underrated lyricists. Uh, he's great. Days is great, Big Sean.

637
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 7: Like when back Black Panthers came where I was like,

638
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 7: what's I don't know, because I mean and it felt

639
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 7: like they were it was some image changing.

640
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 8: That was happening, Like, yeah, definitely.

641
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 3: Felt like that was underway.

642
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 7: So I'm wondering if this is them trying to craft

643
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 7: her into something has stunned the growth just to just

644
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 7: I don't.

645
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 3: Know about it, but just based on that's how it looks.

646
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 7: So when Black Panther came out, Me Day's Loaf, Big Sean,

647
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 7: we all collaborated to to get kids in Detroit to

648
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 7: send to go see the movie. So it's just like,

649
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 7: you know, all we do got to do is throw

650
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 7: up a who do you who?

651
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 3: Call that?

652
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 9: We all it's Eminem a big part of that collective

653
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 9: of kind of giving back up.

654
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 7: So I know Eminem and Royce are tight. I've never

655
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 7: had any interaction with Eminem, but it's I mean, he's

656
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 7: got like, he's got a really good reputation in the city.

657
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 7: Not a person that who you know is from the

658
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 7: d who was kind of harder to funk with for

659
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 7: a lot of reasons.

660
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 8: Is right, I forgot.

661
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's all I gotta say about that. For him,

662
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 3: it's still in Detroit to right Detroit area.

663
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I'm just I'm still trying to figure

664
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 7: out how dude that grew up outside of Detroit is

665
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 7: suddenly the foremost bar of the Confederate flag.

666
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Speaker 3: But I digress.

667
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 6: His thing is he has a black son, and you

668
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 6: know that's his past.

669
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 2: So he's sister.

670
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 8: Not the.

671
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 7: Okay, first of all, I didn't know it was Jody

672
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 7: Whitley's sister.

673
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 3: I had no idea.

674
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 7: But yeah, but he's got a black Everybody knew that

675
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 7: he that he has a black son. So like, so

676
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 7: him waving that Confederate flag or just him trying to

677
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 7: flip the script like in college. When I was in college,

678
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 7: like k Rock was calling our college newspaper all the

679
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 7: time to try to get us to review his CD,

680
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 7: you know, because he was a hip hop artist.

681
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 6: Then, like you know, you spend your formative years trying

682
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 6: to be down and then you know, when you're forty,

683
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 6: you just morphed back into what you really.

684
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 8: Are, like you lose your revolution.

685
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 6: Like absolutely, I'm sorry, I'm the only one here actually

686
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 6: like sports.

687
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 8: That is actually a lie. But go ahead and ask question.

688
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 2: A couple of quick questions.

689
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 4: Who's your favorite Detroit Tiger of all time?

690
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 3: Uh oh, that's such a good question. I'm going to say.

691
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 3: I'm going to say Kirk.

692
00:33:56,040 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 2: Gibson okay, and what made you nine Ers fan?

693
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 7: So it's a very boring, ridiculous story. I know you're like,

694
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 7: how is something boring or ridiculous?

695
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 3: It was like this.

696
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 7: So my mother was she was seventeen years old or

697
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 7: eighteen years old. I think she turned eighteen. She moved

698
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 7: out to the Bay Area with my father, and I

699
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 7: was not in the picture quite yet, but I became

700
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 7: in the picture when they moved out to.

701
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 3: The Bay Area.

702
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 7: The sight of my conception is in the Bay and

703
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 7: so so yeah, my mother while she was out there,

704
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 7: I wasn't born after I was born in Detroit, but

705
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 7: she loved the forty nine ers and she really liked

706
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 7: the team in it and as they got better, and

707
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 7: then they drafted a young fellow named Joe Montana. She

708
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,760
Speaker 7: was a really big fan of Joe Montana's and so

709
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:49,839
Speaker 7: she would always talk about the forty nine ers. And

710
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 7: she was still a Lions fan as well. But the

711
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 7: Lions were dreadful. They were so shitty. When I was

712
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 7: coming up then, I was like, why would I care

713
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 7: about this team that doesn't w and they're all, you know,

714
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 7: the franchise seems to be completely incompetent, Like why would

715
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 7: I root for the Lions?

716
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:07,879
Speaker 3: Like, who cares? Like they suck?

717
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 7: So taking the part of the forty nine ers from her,

718
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 7: I just started watching the forty nine ers and they

719
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 7: just became my team.

720
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 3: And so hints the helmet.

721
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:21,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, good timing too. The Lions have never won right now.

722
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 3: They're they're they're in.

723
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 7: I think it's the Lions in Cleveland are the only

724
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 7: two NFL teams who have not been to a modern

725
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 7: day Super Bowl. Oh, for shit, they need to get

726
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 7: to that motherfucker.

727
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:37,720
Speaker 3: They can't even sniff it. What But I do tell.

728
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 7: People that, you know, for as much as the Lions

729
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 7: have lost the dedication, the fans there are horribly dedicated.

730
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 3: I live with one, so I know.

731
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 7: And if they ever went to a Super Bowl, they

732
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 7: ain't even got a window, bitch. If they ever got there,

733
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 7: it just get there. It'd be the biggest sports story,

734
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 7: arguably in Michigan history.

735
00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 4: What's the number one reason why the Lions can't can't

736
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 4: get there or haven't gotten there?

737
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 7: Well, you know, as they say, attitude reflect leadership. The

738
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 7: Ford family has I got that from remember the Titans.

739
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 7: I'm not a genius. Yeah it was, so, you know,

740
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 7: the thing is like I believe a wood Hare said it.

741
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 7: So the thing about the Lions is like they've been

742
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 7: the one constant has been the Ford family ownership. And

743
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 7: to me, it's like you keep changing coaches, You've changed

744
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 7: many a quarterback, you've changed offenses. The one constant is

745
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 7: the leadership up top has not changed. It's been in

746
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 7: the Ford family for years and will probably be there forever.

747
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 7: I think, you know, they are just not good football people.

748
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 7: And you know right now they're trying to copy a

749
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 7: blueprint for the Patriots because like other teams have done,

750
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:57,240
Speaker 7: like they hired Matt Patricia, who's was the defensive coordinator

751
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 7: for the Patriots. They have a whole lot of Patriots

752
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 7: folks in the building. Looting the GM is somebody from

753
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 7: the Patriots organization. And what's so funny about that formula

754
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 7: is that it's not really a formula.

755
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 3: The formula was Bill Belichick and Tom Brady.

756
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 7: I was about to say, I thought, OK, unless you

757
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 7: have one of them, then you know, notice none of

758
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 7: like Bill Belichick's coaching tree is actually terrible, Like the

759
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 7: best coaching the best person that came from his coaching

760
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:23,800
Speaker 7: tree is Nick Saban.

761
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 3: Everybody else has been bad.

762
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 8: You know.

763
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:29,959
Speaker 7: It's not like Tonyngee. Tony Dungee has an incredible coaching tree,

764
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 7: Bill Walsh incredible coaching tree. Bill Belichick is whack because

765
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 7: again all of them did not have Tom Brady. So

766
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 7: unless you can create a Tom Brady, then.

767
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:45,839
Speaker 4: Good luck Belichick. He's part of the Parcels coaching tree.

768
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 4: And that's my right, correct.

769
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 3: So like Bill Parcell's great coaching tree, you know.

770
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 7: And so at any rate, the Lions they just have

771
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 7: been they've had just really incompetent front offices, just dreadful coaches.

772
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 7: I mean, it's just, uh, it just hasn't been in

773
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 7: the card for cards for them. Look, I don't have

774
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 7: anything against the lines. I want them to do well

775
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 7: because I know what it means for the city and

776
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 7: I want to protect my husband's mental health.

777
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 9: So now I want them to do y'all think that

778
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:17,800
Speaker 9: the South will ever get football teams or what?

779
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,320
Speaker 8: Will? They just continue to depend on college football.

780
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 7: They do have some football teams. They call it the

781
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 7: SEC pretty much.

782
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:31,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, we got the Panthers.

783
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 8: Me right, my trip and I just came to Panthers.

784
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 7: It's like but you and no, probably not. And I

785
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 7: don't think they want pro sports like they're that like

786
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 7: to them, Alabama football is a pro sport.

787
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 3: I mean, and it is, I mean for real, so

788
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 3: like it ain't no big deal to them.

789
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 9: I just came into the enlightenment of why they get

790
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:50,240
Speaker 9: so hype about college sports.

791
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 8: I was like, oh my god, there really it's.

792
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 5: Not a lot of but even here, it's just college

793
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 5: football in the South is just a different animal relation

794
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:01,800
Speaker 5: sports panal correct, general, Like I mean the ACC tournament

795
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,280
Speaker 5: down here, like when I mean when the world was open,

796
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 5: Like our teachers used to roll the damn cart in

797
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 5: the classroom, you know what.

798
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, like doing the a SEC tournament. Man, we ain't

799
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:19,839
Speaker 4: do in school that dope. We watched the joint But.

800
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 6: It is the point, not isn't the point to support

801
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 6: that particular player and then watch them going to greatness?

802
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:30,439
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, they wouldn't want a professional football team want.

803
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:30,919
Speaker 8: To make money?

804
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 4: Well they don't think they don't want to make money?

805
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 2: Right? Do you think they will ever play college players ever?

806
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 7: I think a reckoning is coming because at some point

807
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 7: they will not be able to hold back the inevitable.

808
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,280
Speaker 7: And what this pandemic has exposed is how their greed

809
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 7: has honestly put them in this position because here's the thing.

810
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 7: If they were actually paying the players, people would have

811
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:58,280
Speaker 7: less of a problem with them playing during this pandemic.

812
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 7: Like the pros, to play is one thing because they're pros,

813
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 7: they're paid, they all have unions. If college players were

814
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 7: actually paid, there would not be a lot of handwringing

815
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 7: about whether or not they should be playing. You wouldn't

816
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 7: have to worry about the optics of having players on

817
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 7: campus but not regular students, which sends the message that

818
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,280
Speaker 7: it's okay to say, we have to sacrifice your lives

819
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 7: and your health and your safety because we built an

820
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 7: entire free economy off your free labor.

821
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 4: Off this.

822
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, I seen thousand people watching Nigga solve a math problems,

823
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:31,399
Speaker 5: you know.

824
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 7: What I'm saying, So that that's what's being exposed. I

825
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 7: mean it's always been that way, but I think it's

826
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 7: become especially obvious during this pandemic is that you have

827
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 7: you know, you have people who have seven figure salaries.

828
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 7: You know those college towns in Alabama. Think about what

829
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 7: happens to Tuscaloosa with no Alabama football.

830
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 3: So it's no shock that the.

831
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 7: SEC has decided to continue to play because they have

832
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 7: built an entire economy around these players.

833
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 4: It's a whole ecosystem.

834
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 7: It's a whole ecosystem, exactly, Nick sab but it's making

835
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 7: eight nine million dollars a year.

836
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 9: You think that's the question about the pros being in

837
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 9: some of these towns, because I'm like, well, if they

838
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 9: had a pro team, may be able to kind of

839
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 9: balance out a little bit.

840
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 8: I mean, it was right. I guess you're right.

841
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:19,720
Speaker 3: And not only that the Southern states.

842
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 7: I mean, not that this has stopped anybody from putting

843
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,720
Speaker 7: sports ahead of the welfare of their constituents, but Southern

844
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 7: states are are generally the poor states in the nation.

845
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 7: So it's like there's also you know, here's why I

846
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,359
Speaker 7: love it when these conservatives always got they always got

847
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 7: heat for Chicago and democratic cities.

848
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 3: I'm like, have you seen Mississippi?

849
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 4: Motherfucker?

850
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 7: Like all the Republican governors are in the worst states.

851
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 7: It's just like, all right, okay, y'all, ain't got no

852
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 7: room for talking.

853
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 8: Just make one one question about the last dance.

854
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 9: I to have a Michael George question because he was

855
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,439
Speaker 9: talking about activism, were talking about the NBA and it's lack.

856
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 8: And that was picking back up with Lebron. What can't

857
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,879
Speaker 8: we blame your boy a little bit?

858
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:04,720
Speaker 4: No, we can't.

859
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 5: But I have a very North Carolina take on this.

860
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 5: But I'm curious for you.

861
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:11,839
Speaker 3: I'm kidding I would say this.

862
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 7: I think that we need to look at Jordan's off

863
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 7: the field or off the court contributions in a different way.

864
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 7: So here's what we have to recognize. What Jordan did

865
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 7: do for black athletes. He gave them a blueprint for

866
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 7: generational wealth, for global success.

867
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 3: He also proved to.

868
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 7: The business community that you can make a black man,

869
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 7: a dark skinned black man, the face of a company

870
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 7: and you could be a commercial, international success.

871
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 4: That's what revolution is to him. Like, that's him, I

872
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:43,879
Speaker 4: mean to him.

873
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:45,919
Speaker 5: So it's like so for me, like when I look

874
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 5: at it, it's like, you know, there was a piece

875
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 5: that was written I wanted.

876
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:51,320
Speaker 4: I think the writer was right Thompson.

877
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 5: But there's like a piece that was written on Jordan,

878
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,359
Speaker 5: like a couple of months ago that was better than

879
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 5: the last dance.

880
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 7: I mean, the ship was amazing piece because that's like

881
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 7: the best piece I've ever read on Michael Jordan's.

882
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 5: That ship is amazing, and it breaks down just as

883
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 5: a Carolina nigga, that ship spoke to my soul. So

884
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 5: it just breaks down, like his coming up in Wilmington

885
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 5: and like the racist ship that went down in Wilmington.

886
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 9: And like everything, I apologize, I'm a North No, it

887
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 9: still it just gives context.

888
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 5: And so it just shows like for him for people

889
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:24,359
Speaker 5: on the outside, like why didn't he speak out? Why

890
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 5: didn't he do this? For someone like him that literally

891
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 5: came up on a dirt fucking road, like you know

892
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 5: what I mean, and like saw all these atrocities and

893
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 5: you know, from his family and like all this shit.

894
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 5: The success that was revolution to him, to him is

895
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:41,959
Speaker 5: just yo, I'm just here to do my fucking job,

896
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 5: and my job and the work I do on the

897
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 5: court that's gonna speak for me and speak more for

898
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 5: my people more than me making a speech ever fucking would.

899
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 9: And then I'm charge dollars and more for they shoot

900
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 9: these shoes and they're gonna be all right. They might

901
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 9: kill each other, fight each other over, but I ain't

902
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 9: gonna say shit. I'm just gonna let it happen, and

903
00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 9: I'm gonna charge more than this. This is gonna be

904
00:43:59,040 --> 00:43:59,760
Speaker 9: five hundred.

905
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 4: Dollars, because that's what it is.

906
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 5: I mean, listen, I mean if you go to the

907
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 5: I mean if you look at like Starberry when he

908
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 5: tried to do his shoe, you know, twenty five dollars.

909
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 4: Shoes right in the middle the got that show was

910
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 4: but no, but.

911
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 5: I'm saying it showed that that was price point is

912
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 5: not an issue for the people that want those shoes,

913
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:18,399
Speaker 5: Like it's not.

914
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 4: Now he's saying niggas need to be killing and shooting

915
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 4: and ship like that.

916
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 5: But it was just you know, I don't think all

917
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 5: that should lay at the feet of Jordan, like niggas

918
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 5: is gonna do whatever to get them shoes.

919
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:29,839
Speaker 7: I wouldn't, but I would say I would not lay

920
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 7: all that there. As the years have gone by, I

921
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 7: tended to see his his level or brand of activism

922
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 7: in a different way. That being said, though he had

923
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 7: opportunities on the most basic shoot all I'm saying like

924
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 7: him not supporting Harvey Gan against Jesse.

925
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 3: It's like dog like, this is a layup, Like this is

926
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 3: a la Jordan, like.

927
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 2: This is a literal.

928
00:44:55,719 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 9: Literally it was It's gonna be the nineties, It's gonna

929
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 9: be the two thousands.

930
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 7: But the other thing too, I think Jordan's you know,

931
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 7: he provided a blueprint. The problem was within that that

932
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 7: in decoding how he was able to gain such success

933
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 7: is that players started to take on to an extreme

934
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 7: level this idea that they wanted to be as politically

935
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 7: or as a political as possible. And because that's I mean, ultimately,

936
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 7: what Jordan was able to successfully do is he allowed

937
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 7: himself to be such an every man that you you

938
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 7: didn't know how he felt about anything, whatever beliefs you

939
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 7: thought he had, or you maybe project your own beliefs

940
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 7: onto him and be like, oh, I'm sure he thinks

941
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:50,399
Speaker 7: like this, because that's what made him quote Ico transcended.

942
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 4: That's like people were so surprised when they saw he

943
00:45:53,160 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 4: was listening to Ken what that is? That's my that

944
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 4: is my uncle, like my uncle, my uncle Brod.

945
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 5: I love my uncle the death like and he was

946
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 5: like a big musical influence from me. And you know

947
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:09,720
Speaker 5: he was listening to pe Funk and all that stuff.

948
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 5: But hip hop just wasn't his thing. So it's like

949
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 5: certain men like born in the South, Yeah, like that

950
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:18,760
Speaker 5: just wasn't them.

951
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 4: I mean, we love him blackness.

952
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 9: I can tell by the black and white of his

953
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:23,399
Speaker 9: eyes today that he's black as hell.

954
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 8: I'm just saying, you tell.

955
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:33,439
Speaker 5: Them jeans shout out to ever created what the fuck

956
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 5: is Michael Jordan wearing?

957
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 3: But the thing is Jordan was still rock that ship

958
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:42,280
Speaker 3: right now. Yes, yes, so today today.

959
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 7: Like he ain't even got to the poort where he

960
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 7: upgraded to be a time joiner cruise fresh, Like he

961
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 7: ain't even there yet.

962
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:51,479
Speaker 3: You can't tell him ship.

963
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 6: I'd be throwing off if he wore like a good

964
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 6: tapered suit, and I'd be throwing off if he had

965
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 6: something fitted.

966
00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, despite the fact he has like he should be

967
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 7: wearing euro cut with the slender Physicah.

968
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 3: He should.

969
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

970
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 5: I agree that he could have been less a political

971
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 5: but I also understand the times under which when that

972
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 5: shit went down, And I also understand for someone like

973
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 5: him from his generation where he's from, I understood his

974
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 5: definition of success and revolution and standing up for his

975
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 5: people looks very different than what it looks like to

976
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:26,439
Speaker 5: people now.

977
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard, it's hardly a Kanye.

978
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 3: No, No, he's not.

979
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 7: He never He always embraced being black, like there was

980
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 7: never any question he was that he was not this

981
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 7: But the problem I think is that I think there's

982
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 7: some degree his miscalculation. Although it has obviously led to

983
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 7: him attaining unbelievable wealth and being the only black NBA

984
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 7: owner in the NBA, his miscalculation and sometimes this is

985
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 7: many people in his position have done this that are black,

986
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 7: is that they want to practice capitalism act. And I'm

987
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 7: not sure if those two things were meant to be

988
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 7: in the same sentence.

989
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:06,839
Speaker 3: As I said, charity does not.

990
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 7: Fix structural inequality or institutional racism. It doesn't because you're

991
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:15,319
Speaker 7: dependent on charity to fix structural issues that were not

992
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 7: created by the people giving this charity. Like as great

993
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 7: as it is that Lebron has started his own school

994
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 7: and he is changing lives, it can't do anything to

995
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 7: fix ultimately, what's the real problem in acron is underfunded

996
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 7: historically underfunded children, Black children in particular. You know, as

997
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 7: great as it is that him for it, but this

998
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 7: idea that I think in our community, and this is

999
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 7: why I encourage us to not to be really very

1000
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 7: informed about how politics works, because I hear a lot

1001
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 7: of us saying like, I don't really, I don't, I

1002
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 7: don't do politics.

1003
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 3: No, you have to do politics.

1004
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 7: To make this work because the only way the structural

1005
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 7: inequality is gonna fixed is through politics. Because Lebron can't

1006
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 7: start one hundred schools to fix education in America.

1007
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 3: He can't. That can only come from policy. So we

1008
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 3: have to be involved on that.

1009
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 7: Level and understand that a lot of us give back

1010
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,319
Speaker 7: to the community, a lot of us come back and

1011
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 7: try to buy buildings and bly to block it's still

1012
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,879
Speaker 7: not fixing gentrification and red light it's still not fixing that.

1013
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 4: So we have to.

1014
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 3: It's a right start, but you.

1015
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:29,839
Speaker 4: Got to start somewhere fix all this ship.

1016
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 3: No, but that's why you can't have one without the other.

1017
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 7: Like we can't continue to to disengage ourselves from the

1018
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 7: political process because you.

1019
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:40,839
Speaker 3: Know, we we we.

1020
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 7: Think it's too hard or we don't want to fight

1021
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:46,439
Speaker 7: that that fight. But it's like, no, the best thing

1022
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:49,320
Speaker 7: that we could see happen is like we were talking

1023
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:53,360
Speaker 7: earlier about Corey Bush, who you know is soon to

1024
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 7: be It looks like for sure she'll be Representative District

1025
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 7: one in in Missouri in St.

1026
00:49:58,760 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 3: Louis.

1027
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 7: This is a woman who started who was a Ferguson

1028
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 7: activist when Michael Brown was killed and for her to

1029
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 7: go from that to get to being a representative in

1030
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:14,400
Speaker 7: Congress is huge. That's how you fix structural inequality because

1031
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 7: you have somebody there who understands the issues on the ground,

1032
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:22,360
Speaker 7: somebody who is a single mother, homeless, domestic assault survivor,

1033
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 7: I'm sorry, domestic violence survivor, sexual assault survivor, somebody who

1034
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,319
Speaker 7: understands at a basic level what it's like not to

1035
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 7: have and has and is in a position now to

1036
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 7: sit on committees, impact policy, change neighborhood.

1037
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 3: You gotta that's what you gotta have.

1038
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:40,840
Speaker 7: Like, it's like, you gotta have that because if you don't,

1039
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 7: it's like the charitable stuff will come, will be depending

1040
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 7: on somebody in our community attaining generational wealth, which is

1041
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:50,760
Speaker 7: not easy to do.

1042
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 3: To fix some shit. Yeah, it's a crap shoot.

1043
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 7: So it's like we gotta like even you don't even

1044
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 7: have to become a rep. If you just sit on

1045
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 7: a school board, you be shocked. You can change yo,

1046
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,800
Speaker 7: go to a PA, run your PTA. See what happened,

1047
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 7: start ap PTA.

1048
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 5: What we're going through this shit right now with all

1049
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 5: the schools you know where everything going on, virtual going online,

1050
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 5: and nah, we're going through it.

1051
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 4: This shit is insane. This is insane.

1052
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:18,439
Speaker 7: Now more than ever is the time where we need

1053
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:22,240
Speaker 7: to retake a lot of our local political structures because they're.

1054
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:22,959
Speaker 3: There to be had.

1055
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 7: You know, if somebody asked me, what's how would you

1056
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 7: how would you summarize twenty twenty, and I said I

1057
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 7: would summarize it. My only takeaway or the biggest takeaway

1058
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,800
Speaker 7: we need to think about for twenty twenty is district

1059
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 7: attorneys are elected positions.

1060
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 3: That's what we need to take away from this.

1061
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 7: Understand, most DA's run unopposed, most of them do, and

1062
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 7: so most of us do not vote in local elections.

1063
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:53,800
Speaker 7: And that is how because we have who the president

1064
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 7: is is powerful, not saying that, but who your mayory is.

1065
00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 4: Who's on the police, your judges, all.

1066
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:03,800
Speaker 7: That judges like you gotta vote in those elections because

1067
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 7: you can really change your city, Like just by voting,

1068
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 7: you could truly change it. You could get in the

1069
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 7: people who understand systemic racism and criminal justice reform, who

1070
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 7: understand because das have so much influence about what cases

1071
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:21,399
Speaker 7: to prosecute. If you have a DA that is not

1072
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 7: holding the police accountable, vote them out, vote them out.

1073
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:28,360
Speaker 7: You could put somebody on the ballot who will carry

1074
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 7: justice the way it deserves to be carried in our communities.

1075
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 7: And that's why I said, like, we got to stop

1076
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:36,799
Speaker 7: this conversation about feeling like it's a badge of honor

1077
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 7: to not be politically engaged. We can't afford to do that.

1078
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 7: We will fail our communities and act like.

1079
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:44,319
Speaker 9: Just because you don't like both the candidate is one

1080
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:47,280
Speaker 9: hundred percent that you just I don't like them.

1081
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 3: You know how you change that?

1082
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 8: It's like you change that.

1083
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 7: But being involved from the start, like what we have

1084
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 7: right now, that's on the ticket, however you feel about

1085
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 7: it didn't have to be that way. We have plenty

1086
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 7: of opportunities to make sure there was different.

1087
00:52:58,680 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 3: People on the ticket.

1088
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:03,240
Speaker 8: It didn't right primary exactly.

1089
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 7: Hey, as long as our young people and if they

1090
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:09,360
Speaker 7: as long as they continue to not vote, you keep.

1091
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 3: Doing what you're doing, you're gonna keep getting what you're getting,

1092
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:15,839
Speaker 3: all right.

1093
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 6: We are quasi noted for being a music podcast. We're

1094
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 6: all things to all podcasts.

1095
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,360
Speaker 3: I will podcast matter, yeah exactly.

1096
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 4: Well, no we're not all.

1097
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 6: So I will ask you, uh, and you cannot include

1098
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 6: any greatest sets or box sets compilations.

1099
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 3: Okay, that's important distinction you're.

1100
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:48,879
Speaker 2: Right, we're in the second wave of quarantining for two

1101
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:49,800
Speaker 2: years straight.

1102
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 6: What five physical albums are you allowed to listen to

1103
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 6: for that duration.

1104
00:53:57,800 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 2: Of two years?

1105
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 3: Okay?

1106
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 2: Records.

1107
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Speaker 7: So because I ask people this all the time, I've

1108
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 7: always prepared for this answer for the most part, and

1109
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:09,840
Speaker 7: because I prefer to ask people, I call it the

1110
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 7: Desert Island question. I prefer to ask him that as

1111
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 7: opposed to like five mcs, like you got to go

1112
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:17,400
Speaker 7: with the things that mean something to you.

1113
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 3: So for I used to.

1114
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:21,839
Speaker 6: Do on this show gun to the Head, but they

1115
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:22,760
Speaker 6: said it's too violent.

1116
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 2: So without gun to the head, I'll just say quarantine.

1117
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:33,320
Speaker 7: Quarantine five five albums Songs in the Key of Life, okay,

1118
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 7: h for sure, Ready.

1119
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 3: To Die Biggie.

1120
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 2: Number four Okay, yep.

1121
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:44,840
Speaker 7: I'm also I mean because I'm gonna make sure I

1122
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:46,319
Speaker 7: get this album Mary Jay is.

1123
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 2: My Life Okay, number three, I'm.

1124
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:54,799
Speaker 3: Gonna take the roots. Do you want more?

1125
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:59,959
Speaker 7: And I'm not I'm not to say that just because,

1126
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 7: like you know, I think about like literally like life

1127
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 7: changing album.

1128
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:06,879
Speaker 8: Just go ahead, finish your.

1129
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 7: List, and I think I'm gonna take because I want

1130
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 7: to say and I'm not.

1131
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 3: I'm just trying to think. You know what. No, Anita

1132
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 3: Baker Compositions.

1133
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 5: Oh you go, compositions, okay, dress, that's my love.

1134
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:31,359
Speaker 7: Compositions, Compositions. I've gotten the many argument about Compositions being

1135
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:35,319
Speaker 7: her best album. That's no shade any of her work.

1136
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 7: But I'm telling you Compositions is flawless.

1137
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 5: Top now that run, that rapture, giving you the best

1138
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:42,760
Speaker 5: that I got in Compositions.

1139
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:47,280
Speaker 6: If she would let her catalog extreme, I could actually

1140
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 6: wait in opinion.

1141
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 9: Wow, I never even checked for It's.

1142
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:54,280
Speaker 2: Only on title.

1143
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 6: You could be you can barely find the angel anywhere else,

1144
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 6: Like there is no meet I need a Baker on

1145
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 6: Spotify or that's.

1146
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 8: Why you got Laylan and got her in the.

1147
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 2: Clinch, her and Her and d.

1148
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 4: Her cover of Analiah. Yeah, her cover of records.

1149
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:18,399
Speaker 7: You can only get a none but the number unfortunately,

1150
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:21,319
Speaker 7: but black was it one in a billion?

1151
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 3: Because that's a million?

1152
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:24,400
Speaker 4: No, this is nothing.

1153
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 5: All the black Ground ships are like Tank first two albums.

1154
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:29,880
Speaker 5: I think, yep, all that ship on Blackground.

1155
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 7: Is Nothing's his name Barry Hankerson, right, he holding all

1156
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:36,759
Speaker 7: that ship hostage, Uncle Barry, especially a Leada ship like

1157
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 7: you just I'm so I'm glad I had her CDs,

1158
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:41,919
Speaker 7: like I have a needed ship because I got.

1159
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:45,840
Speaker 4: All s away because I thought, get them.

1160
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, well I have the CDs, but I also put

1161
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:50,400
Speaker 7: them on a on a hard drive, so I had

1162
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:54,400
Speaker 7: the hard drive with I was like, oh no, I

1163
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:54,799
Speaker 7: love that.

1164
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:59,800
Speaker 4: So you're sorry, choices you have very Yeah, I'm surprised.

1165
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:01,759
Speaker 4: Ain't Mic make it in that No, MJ. I thought,

1166
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:02,319
Speaker 4: I thought I got.

1167
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 7: I thought about it as well because I was struggling

1168
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:09,720
Speaker 7: between his first album, because I still you know, I think, uh,

1169
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 7: you know, Off the Wall is better than Thriller. I think, yeah,

1170
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 7: I think I struggle with with picking a Michael Jackson

1171
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 7: album or a Prints album. The problem is with both

1172
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 7: of them they have so much. I mean not that

1173
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 7: Stevie Wonder doesn't, but like to me, songs in the

1174
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 7: Kia Life is like literally a perfect album. So yeah, no,

1175
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 7: I just thought to think about the things that I

1176
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 7: have on like constant repeat, and as much as I

1177
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:36,440
Speaker 7: love those artists, it's like, I mean, I was listening

1178
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:38,959
Speaker 7: to My Life like literally a couple of days ago.

1179
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 4: That Joy from top to bottom.

1180
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 3: It's a banger.

1181
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 6: I'm gonna say that, you know, I'm saying it's a

1182
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 6: curious choice because I think if actually in that situation,

1183
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 6: I don't listen to not the albums that I like

1184
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 6: but like, it would be easy to stay off the wall.

1185
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 2: But I think I would get tired of off the

1186
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 2: wall after.

1187
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 3: Ye after a certain amount of spans two.

1188
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:07,440
Speaker 6: Months of that, so I you know, I would actually

1189
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 6: pick like Blood on the.

1190
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 2: No, Yo, I'm gonna tell you something. I'm gonna tell

1191
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:18,919
Speaker 2: you something I got.

1192
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 6: I got caught in a Michael Jackson rabbit hole, and

1193
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 6: I decided I was going to teach myself to accept

1194
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 6: or like and Invincible.

1195
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:35,560
Speaker 2: Yes, that joints.

1196
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 4: The ones that hit hit on Invents Butterfly.

1197
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 6: I'm gonna I'm gonna be in so much trouble when

1198
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 6: we get to the writing Jerkins episode.

1199
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:54,520
Speaker 5: No You, the Jerkins joints wasn't the ones that went

1200
00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 5: off on that album, the ones that he it was

1201
00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 5: it was Rocked My World. Well I did like rock

1202
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 5: My World. That was him break it an Butterflies weight.

1203
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 3: Listen. It's like.

1204
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 7: It may not have I mean to think about Michael

1205
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:14,160
Speaker 7: Jackson is like you get so spoiled, like the fact

1206
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 7: that that people at the time considered bad to be

1207
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 7: a disappointment, and that's like.

1208
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 8: Garrett, like see what I'm saying.

1209
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 7: It's like, but his highs were so high that if

1210
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 7: Michael on a on a twelve a twelve song album,

1211
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 7: if only four or five of them joints are bankers,

1212
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 7: You're like, this is a disappointment.

1213
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:35,440
Speaker 3: You're like, what you know?

1214
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 4: You know?

1215
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 5: I always say, also think it's something too, it has

1216
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 5: to be something racist at work. I always thought it

1217
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 5: was something crazy that the Eagles always got the record for,

1218
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 5: like the album go Higher and hire this is.

1219
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 4: The greatest hit. So I'm like, that's bullshit, Like you.

1220
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 5: Matther fuckers had to compile all y'all best ship on

1221
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 5: one album to have smoke for a nigga that made

1222
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 5: an album of all his that ship.

1223
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:03,600
Speaker 4: Like, get the funk out of here. I didn't make it, y'all.

1224
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:05,920
Speaker 5: Niggas need the greatest his album to funk with the

1225
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:08,840
Speaker 5: nine jams I just did and smashing all y'all ship,

1226
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:10,680
Speaker 5: I don't think should be there.

1227
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 4: That's the biggest Eagle song.

1228
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:21,200
Speaker 6: California Hotel, California, best of My Love and you kid

1229
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:22,920
Speaker 6: in Town, I said.

1230
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 8: Like crossing, that's only one knew that ship.

1231
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:27,880
Speaker 2: That's like the one sure version.

1232
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:35,480
Speaker 3: I know that's a fact. Ship, that's a fact.

1233
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:36,080
Speaker 8: It was.

1234
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:41,680
Speaker 2: It was, but you know we did a i'l be

1235
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:46,240
Speaker 2: sure episode was episode.

1236
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:49,600
Speaker 6: But the day that I got private times in the

1237
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 6: whole nine.

1238
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:57,240
Speaker 3: Ship Mannie, that was.

1239
01:00:57,280 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 5: That was on the sixty Versus album.

1240
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 4: I love it.

1241
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 7: And by the way, Chris, uh, what what blood sacrifice

1242
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:11,640
Speaker 7: do I have to make to get you.

1243
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:14,080
Speaker 2: To make it happen? Let's let's make it happen.

1244
01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:16,320
Speaker 8: Will make it.

1245
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 7: Happen because deep dive into how you possibly don't like

1246
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 7: Bad Boys too. We're gonna go deep dive. But by

1247
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:28,520
Speaker 7: the way, when you when you said the Tyler Perry

1248
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:30,840
Speaker 7: rabbit hole, did you watch Fall from Grace?

1249
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:31,640
Speaker 3: Is that what happened?

1250
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:31,840
Speaker 8: Now?

1251
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:34,240
Speaker 5: Did I watch it?

1252
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:37,360
Speaker 7: But first of all, is okay.

1253
01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:42,400
Speaker 6: How I came up was the debate on Bad Boys

1254
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 6: got so bad? Then I was like, well, I might

1255
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 6: as well throw this grenade into the argument. Can you

1256
01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:53,280
Speaker 6: guys differentiate what what's the When we determined that Bad

1257
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:55,400
Speaker 6: Boys was a classic.

1258
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:57,680
Speaker 4: Film, that but that wasn't a good movie.

1259
01:01:57,920 --> 01:01:59,200
Speaker 2: That wasn't a good movie.

1260
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:04,200
Speaker 6: Then I just wanted some suggestions on what do we

1261
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 6: consider like what Til Perry works are that?

1262
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:10,160
Speaker 2: And I think I want.

1263
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:14,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I said good deeds, good deeds for me.

1264
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:15,840
Speaker 10: I was like, good deeds was all right?

1265
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 9: And you know what family that praise was. I'm gonna

1266
01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:21,600
Speaker 9: say that's Kathy Baits, right, Yep, that's Cathy Baits.

1267
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:23,880
Speaker 4: That was ran together.

1268
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:27,400
Speaker 9: But I'm telling you the Fall from Grace.

1269
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:30,120
Speaker 4: Yea fall Grace was just incoherent.

1270
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 9: It was like, it's the greatest bad ship you've ever seen,

1271
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:36,800
Speaker 9: Like it, Oh my god.

1272
01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:39,360
Speaker 8: It's amazing you do that.

1273
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:41,960
Speaker 9: But I mean, you got bad wigs, you got you know,

1274
01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:44,560
Speaker 9: Tyler Perry he filmed as a tire movie in three hours,

1275
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:45,600
Speaker 9: like unbelieved, right.

1276
01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:47,960
Speaker 5: Just two hours more than it took him to write

1277
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:53,160
Speaker 5: it like icon and this, You're like, how did you.

1278
01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:55,040
Speaker 8: Get he gets her everything?

1279
01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:55,640
Speaker 2: I think.

1280
01:02:57,680 --> 01:03:03,280
Speaker 10: It's so much happening and I mean that I don't

1281
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:03,600
Speaker 10: know if.

1282
01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:08,640
Speaker 9: You agree with this, uhlo, But they plot twist actually

1283
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:09,160
Speaker 9: went bad.

1284
01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:12,920
Speaker 4: It No, the plot was horrible because it was just.

1285
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:14,560
Speaker 8: The only people in this world.

1286
01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 5: I don't want to spoil that, but it was I

1287
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:19,280
Speaker 5: can't say it without spoiling.

1288
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:23,760
Speaker 4: But it was just the end part bad film.

1289
01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:25,960
Speaker 10: That's that's a fair question, even know.

1290
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 5: And I'm gonna be real, even though I walk into

1291
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 5: a Tyler Perry movie, I know what I'm getting. I'm

1292
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:32,920
Speaker 5: not expecting, you know what, even by Tyler Perry senters.

1293
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:33,920
Speaker 4: So this was just bad.

1294
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 10: It was disrespectful to the craft. But you get to

1295
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:37,760
Speaker 10: watch it.

1296
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:42,960
Speaker 6: Wait, where does where does it like compared to uh,

1297
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:44,000
Speaker 6: what's this series?

1298
01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:49,760
Speaker 9: Oh, sisters, I've never seen it.

1299
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:53,440
Speaker 4: I heard that I haven't have not. She swears, I

1300
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:54,040
Speaker 4: haven't have not.

1301
01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:57,360
Speaker 9: I watched one episode. Have y'all watched that oval off

1302
01:03:57,360 --> 01:03:57,680
Speaker 9: and ship?

1303
01:03:58,040 --> 01:03:59,280
Speaker 8: I can't, honestly, I can't.

1304
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:03,680
Speaker 9: I've ever seen ever put on television ever, and it's

1305
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:07,680
Speaker 9: not close. There's no way that had Notts is as

1306
01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:08,200
Speaker 9: bad as this.

1307
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:10,840
Speaker 10: There's no way. I refuse to believe that.

1308
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:14,880
Speaker 9: I was just like what I mean, it's fuckery, it's coterie,

1309
01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:16,760
Speaker 9: it's fuckery, it's all of that, like it is.

1310
01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:18,960
Speaker 10: I got through an episode that.

1311
01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:21,680
Speaker 4: Yes, the O.

1312
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:25,280
Speaker 8: It was.

1313
01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:28,400
Speaker 10: I know it's back for another season. Y'all saw the think.

1314
01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:30,560
Speaker 9: I saw the think about how Tyler period to basically

1315
01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:33,440
Speaker 9: feel about sixty two movies during COVID. Somehow he got

1316
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:34,520
Speaker 9: the COVID test like.

1317
01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:39,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, and he built like he built like housing for

1318
01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:42,520
Speaker 5: people like to stay on his like a state and

1319
01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:43,240
Speaker 5: ship looking.

1320
01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:46,440
Speaker 8: Forward in two years. The stories about this ship that's.

1321
01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:50,160
Speaker 9: The Tyler period formula. Is he only paying one person

1322
01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:50,680
Speaker 9: per movie?

1323
01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:53,400
Speaker 7: Like, it's just it's only he getting one You're only

1324
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:57,240
Speaker 7: paying one person. Okay, shout out to Doragi Hinton because

1325
01:04:57,240 --> 01:04:58,280
Speaker 7: he got had some checks.

1326
01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:00,520
Speaker 10: But she's gonna be the only what did that.

1327
01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:01,320
Speaker 8: Movie gets paid?

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Speaker 4: Shot shouting girl shout.

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Speaker 10: I think her and.

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Speaker 9: It might have been the only two people who got

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Speaker 9: paid to every No way, everybody else had to do

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Speaker 9: that for free. That Oh wait, hold up another one, dude.

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Speaker 9: Did you see acrobody.

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Speaker 4: Man achroon it? Yeah?

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Speaker 6: I watched it on the plane once and then halfway

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Speaker 6: through had to take it off because I didn't want

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Speaker 6: the people behind me judging me. You know, like when

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Speaker 6: you're watching a really bad film on the plane and

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Speaker 6: someone might be behind you judging you.

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Speaker 2: That's how I felt about Acrimony.

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Speaker 8: I'm still trying to figure.

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Speaker 10: Out how you got on the yacht. I'm still trying

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Speaker 10: to figure this out. I'm like, did she fly? Like?

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Speaker 8: Oh that okay?

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Speaker 5: They have like it's just big plot holes. I'm like, dude,

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Speaker 5: this is it's just incoherent.

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Speaker 8: It's like the Long It's a lot of them, so

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Speaker 8: I'm just okay.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the n Alon one, Yeah, that was going on affair,

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Speaker 5: fatal affair.

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Speaker 10: Wait, that was that one?

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Speaker 4: Yes, that was what that was. But it's in the

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Speaker 4: same it's in the same neighborhood.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: And if you actually look at Fatal Affair as a

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Speaker 5: sequel to Juice, it is tracked like but if you

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Speaker 5: look at.

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Speaker 2: The Juice, it wasn't.

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Speaker 8: It wasn't.

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Speaker 5: It wasn't.

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Speaker 6: It wasn't, but he is.

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Speaker 5: You look at it as a you with me with

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Speaker 5: you with me with the vision.

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Speaker 9: No, you gotta watch it like it's it's we in college,

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Speaker 9: we used to have bad Black movie nights, so we

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Speaker 9: saw all the master piece movies like because I.

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Speaker 5: Want something about it the other night after the again,

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Speaker 5: because we had it on tape, like me and my

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Speaker 5: boy we had it.

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Speaker 4: We had the vhs, like in the dorm watching that ship.

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Speaker 5: Now twenty plus years later. Oh man, it's a fucking masterpiece.

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Speaker 8: Okay, yeah, that's a masterpiece of the Bad Boys.

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Speaker 5: Ain't exactly and I stand on it, right, but.

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Speaker 4: It is on.

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Speaker 2: The you know what's weird? All right?

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Speaker 6: So I have these conversations with and she swears up

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Speaker 6: and down that Black Night with Martin Lawrence is a masterpiece.

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Speaker 4: She lion, I gotta hear, we gotta get him on

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Speaker 4: the show.

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Speaker 2: She got it.

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Speaker 8: She got to stand on that.

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Speaker 2: She even talk to me unless I watch it completely.

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Speaker 10: Have you watched it?

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Speaker 4: A look on his face.

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Speaker 5: Like fadal Affair, y'all gotta watch fal Affair that moving night.

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Speaker 4: She don't with the.

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Speaker 2: Better she dude, she no mans, She'll kill me.

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Speaker 8: Damn.

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Speaker 2: I can't bring no bulls into the table. What I

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Speaker 2: can't bring any bullshit to.

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Speaker 9: The table, not fun bullshit Like that's like fedal Fairs

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Speaker 9: is fun bullshit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah she can, like if it's not bettering in her life.

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Speaker 6: She's like, oh man, yeah, I can't.

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Speaker 8: That's what you know.

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Speaker 5: That for the rest of us back at Niggavilleia, if

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Speaker 5: you ever want to know the I mean, you want

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01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:29,880
Speaker 5: to talk about the Pandora's the Pandora's Box of hood

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Speaker 5: black Ship. Amazon Prime is the fucking mother low no

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Speaker 5: nigga Amazon Prime They black no, no, no, no, no, no,

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01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:44,599
Speaker 5: you don't understand. Amazon Prime make Netflix look like HBO

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Speaker 5: with the Black Black you don't understand Nigga Amazon Prime.

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Speaker 5: It's a whole subgenre of like hood. There's a Cuckoo

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Speaker 5: Cow documentary on Amazon Prime.

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Speaker 8: What exact remember and Cuckoo Cow? Why does sound faigiar

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Speaker 8: to me?

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Speaker 5: Because he had that once on my projects? In my project,

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01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:09,080
Speaker 5: he has a documentary narrated.

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Speaker 8: By Cuckoo Caw and he hit his own narration.

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Speaker 9: I'm in, I'm in no more.

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Speaker 2: Cock cow Yo. I'm stopping this episode right now. It's

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Speaker 2: like a watch it. Yes, Jamiel, we thank you very

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Speaker 2: much for you on this episode. We're gonna watch Cuckoo

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Speaker 2: Cow right now when we have a fun a little

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Speaker 2: sugar Steve unpaid bill. Yeah, Jamil, We thank you so

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Speaker 2: much for being on the show.

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