1 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: The NFL never sleeps. 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 2: He's gonna watch down field picked off by the Colts. 3 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: The roster is ever evolving, and it's all about finding 4 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: the edge. 5 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 2: He's at the thirty thirty five thirty pistoll off sideline. 6 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:17,240 Speaker 3: He's got a chance twenty ten five touchdowns. 7 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 1: This is the last Word. The off season home of 8 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Colts. 9 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 4: Kick us on its way header, put the up parts, beys. 10 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 3: Call twin ball game. 11 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: Now here's Matt Taylor and Casey Valier. 12 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 4: Well, let's get it going. Here the last Word. 13 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 2: The off season radio home of the Indianapolis Colts, airing 14 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 2: inside the Indiana Unit Construction Industry Radio Studios. 15 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 4: We're here every Friday night on ninety three five and 16 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 4: one seven five the fan eg if with a basketball background, 17 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 4: it is, Man, it is. 18 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 2: I call it a bracket bustin Friday, because I'm sure 19 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 2: everybody woke up this morning and said, well. 20 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 4: Yes, some money somewhere is mad they made. 21 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 2: But man, a lot of really fun games yesterday. We've 22 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 2: had some fun games already today and it's just gonna 23 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 2: continue on into the weekend. I love this time of year, 24 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 2: and it's exactly what you talked about the other day, Matt, 25 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 2: because March and I never know what the weather's gonna be. 26 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 2: We had snow a couple of days ago, and it 27 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 2: looks like we might get some spring like weather as 28 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 2: we move into the week. 29 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 4: Now, you know, now I'm laying mulch and you know, 30 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 4: put on sunscreen. What is happening? That's just it. It 31 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 4: never levels out here until May. It's psychiatic. You are 32 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 4: not kidding there. 33 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 2: Well, we're gonna give you about a half hour here 34 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 2: of cold stuff. We know we're in kind of that 35 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 2: second wave of NFL free agency cults. Yeah, very active again. 36 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 2: This week we also hear from Rick Venturi. You had 37 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 2: a chance to talk with Rick earlier this week about 38 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 2: all the moves the Colts have made to this point. 39 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 2: But then also we're gonna give a little bit of 40 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 2: a celebration or congratulations to the legend of t Y Hilton, 41 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 2: who an now his retirement from the NFL this week, 42 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 2: and we'll do it March Madness style. We'll do four 43 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,639 Speaker 2: of his top plays. We'll kind of rank them and 44 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 2: see which one we think is the top play. When 45 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 2: we think, you know all that t Y Hilton was 46 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 2: here as a Colt So that'll be a lot of 47 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 2: fun here later on. But let's dive right into this 48 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 2: second wave of free agency for the Colts. As we mentioned, 49 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 2: they were busy this week. The Colts signed safety's juan 50 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 2: Ye Thomas Jonathan Owens. They signed defensive lineman Jerry Tillery, 51 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 2: linebacker Akeem Davis Gaither, cornerback Cam Taylor Britt, and they 52 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 2: also re signed cornerback Cameron Mitchell. And then on the 53 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 2: offensive side of the ball, they signed Notre Dame basketball 54 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 2: player who's going to be converted into a tight end 55 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 2: in Carson Taut And then also they picked up former 56 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 2: Titans and Dolphins receiver Nick Westbrook Akine. So how do 57 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 2: you sum up this second week of free agency for 58 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 2: the Colts. 59 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 4: Matt, Well, it's kind of alphabet soup, like we joked 60 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 4: about yesterday with all the hyphen Yeah, we might have 61 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 4: to get some acronyms, But big picture, I think you 62 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 4: sum it up with good depth and necessary signings because 63 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 4: the Colts have lost a lot of players. They've lost 64 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 4: both starters and good depth, so they've had to replace 65 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 4: those players. So also to the Colts, saw Danny Pinter 66 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 4: this week signed with the Ravens. So offensive line depth 67 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 4: is still something the Colts need to consider and address 68 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 4: with both Braden Smith and Piner leaving the squad and 69 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 4: free agency the last couple of weeks. But again, the 70 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 4: moves the last couple of days have replaced both starters 71 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 4: and depth. I think the Colts have upgraded on their 72 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 4: defensive line inside the trenches. I think you could argue 73 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 4: they're still looking for that final punch, big punch at 74 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 4: defensive end. They've brought in the necessary safety pieces with 75 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 4: Thomas and Owens. The cornerback room is going to be 76 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 4: really experienced, really deep. Last year proved you can never 77 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 4: have enough corners considering how hard that position room was 78 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 4: hit with injuries. You know, Cam Taylor Britt has experience 79 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 4: playing inside this exact scheme under louisn Arumo when he 80 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 4: was with the Bengals, So you know, I would classify 81 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 4: it as a busy couple of days quality depth, which 82 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 4: is okay because that's what the Colts needed to replenish 83 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 4: after the first week of free agency saw so many 84 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 4: players in house, especially on defense, leave the team for 85 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 4: other places. 86 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 2: Now, I know one of the guys that you've talked 87 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 2: about this week that you're pretty high on and that 88 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 2: is Westbrook a Keene. Do you think they have found 89 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 2: their replacement for Michael Pittman. 90 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 4: You know, I don't know if it's like one for one, 91 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 4: you know, player for player, but I will say I 92 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 4: really like him. And it's not just because he's got 93 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 4: Indiana roots. You know, he's married to a woman from Brownsburg. 94 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 4: He went to IU. Of course, had success, you know, 95 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 4: in the Tom Allen regime down in Bloomington. He said 96 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 4: this week when he talked to the media that he 97 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 4: always I mean just because of you know, how he 98 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 4: grew up and you know, the college system that he 99 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 4: was in. Playing so close to Indianapolis, he was always 100 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 4: keeping one eye on the Colts, and the Colts kind 101 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 4: of like his second team, if you will. And you know, 102 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 4: he told his agent during free agency that, hey, if 103 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 4: you get a phone call from the Colts, we need 104 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 4: to seriously listen to it. So he was released by 105 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 4: the Dolphins last year after they really kind of completely 106 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 4: retooled their roster in the offseason. So I do think 107 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 4: he profiles someone that can play like Michael Pittman junior. 108 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 4: It's I mean, I think Pittman was so good that 109 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 4: It's maybe a little bit too far right away to 110 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 4: say that, you know, he just slides in and you're 111 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 4: immediately going to match that production. But player wise, he 112 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 4: does feast as a possession receiver in the middle of 113 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 4: the field. You know, from twenty twenty one to twenty 114 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 4: twenty four when he was highly you know, profiled within 115 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:47,799 Speaker 4: that Tennessee offense. I mean, he was averaging about thirty 116 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 4: catches for over four hundred yards a game or a 117 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 4: season with Tennessee. And he established himself as a Colts killer. 118 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 4: What He's got nineteen touchdowns, four of them against the Colts, 119 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 4: had some really big moments against Indianapolis. So out of 120 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 4: all of the signings, I've said it a lot this week, 121 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 4: out of all the signings the Colts made in the 122 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:07,599 Speaker 4: second wave of free agency, I think Westbrook A kne 123 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 4: has the best chance to come in right away and 124 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 4: contribute what the Colts need based on what they lost 125 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 4: on offense with Michael Pittman junior, yeah, and. 126 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 2: One of those other guys at the Colts signed. I 127 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 2: think we're trying to figure out what that linebacker starting 128 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 2: is going to look like. And I think a Keem 129 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 2: Davis Gaither is a guy who you talk about the 130 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:30,479 Speaker 2: experience inside lou and Rumo's defense. And then also last 131 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 2: year he had you know, the most starts of his 132 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 2: career in Arizona. So do you kind of pencil him 133 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 2: in right now as one of those starting linebackers. And 134 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 2: then when you look at the depth the Colts need 135 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 2: there at linebacker with Zaire Franklin going, and then you 136 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 2: know Jermaine Pratt still a free agent, where do you 137 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 2: think that still needs to be. 138 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 5: For the Colts? 139 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 4: I mean as of right now in terms of him 140 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 4: being a starter. If you play a game today, I 141 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 4: would probably say yes, because he's been in the NFL, 142 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 4: and like you said, last year did start started thirteen 143 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 4: games for the Cardinals. His coverage numbers aren't going to 144 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 4: blow you away. But compared to the other linebackers you've 145 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 4: gotten the roster, he's got the most experienced Jalen Carlis 146 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 4: and Austin and gk those two guys only have six 147 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 4: starts between them, all of them belonged to Carli's Carlais 148 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 4: had a series of injuries last year that kept them 149 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 4: off the field for most of the season. I think 150 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 4: he was on ir for twelve Weeks only played two 151 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 4: snaps on defense all of last year, and he doesn't 152 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 4: have that run specifically in lou Anroumo's defense, whereas Davis 153 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 4: Gaither does. So I think he's got a decent chance 154 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 4: to see the starting lineup next season based on what 155 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 4: we know now. But I still think Casey, the Colts 156 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 4: are in search of a young, difference making linebacker. That 157 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 4: might be the biggest need for the Colts heading into 158 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 4: the draft, and the draft is reportedly pretty deep at linebacker, 159 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 4: so that's good news. The other piece of good news 160 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:54,559 Speaker 4: there is that the Colts have drafted that position pretty 161 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 4: well under Chris Ballard and his scouting staff, So you know, 162 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 4: I don't think it's too crazy to say that maybe 163 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 4: one of the starting linebackers for next season possibly isn't 164 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 4: on this roster yet. 165 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 2: Now, one final thing to kind of put a bow 166 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 2: on this second wave of free agency. What have we 167 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 2: really learned about the Colts to this point in where 168 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 2: they are aggressively attacking here in free agency? 169 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, they had aggressively attacked in the first week, not 170 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 4: that they didn't do that in the second week, but 171 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 4: it's you know, that first wave of free agency was 172 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 4: about the biggest priority for the Colts in the offseason 173 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 4: getting done what they have to get done to bring 174 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 4: back their biggest difference makers in house free agency wise, 175 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,839 Speaker 4: Daniel Jones and Alec Pierce. Those would be the guys 176 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 4: that would be the toughest to replace, and now you've got, 177 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 4: you know, the supplemental wave of guys. You know, the 178 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 4: Colts lost some starters, they lost some depth after the 179 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 4: first wave of free agency, so the moves have improved 180 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 4: the depth on defense. I think, big picture, like we've 181 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:55,319 Speaker 4: talked about this week, the moves for the Colts now 182 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:58,719 Speaker 4: are going to allow promising young players a chance to 183 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 4: prove themselves and take on bigger roles. I still think 184 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 4: there's more moves to be made. I think there's obviously 185 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:07,719 Speaker 4: some impact you're going to bring in the draft. But 186 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 4: the Colts have big picture accomplished their biggest goals of 187 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 4: getting younger and faster while also securing their premium players 188 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 4: that are the toughest to replace and hard to win 189 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 4: with that when you don't have your quarterback and you 190 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 4: don't have your big play wide receiver, that really implements 191 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:25,959 Speaker 4: a lot of different dynamics of who you want to 192 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 4: be offensively. 193 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, free agency. One of the things that we have 194 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 2: continued to know is that it's very fluid. It has 195 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 2: been a busy week for the Colts, and if there 196 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 2: is a lot more activity again next week, we will 197 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 2: give you all that information, especially with anything happens over 198 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 2: the weekend. But free agency will continue to kind of 199 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:44,319 Speaker 2: trickle in here as we get closer to the draft, 200 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 2: as you're starting to kind of put all those pieces 201 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 2: together for what the roster's going to look like as 202 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 2: they had in twenty twenty six. The Last Word is 203 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 2: brought to you by vivid Seats. Vivid Seats the official 204 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 2: fan experience partner of the Indianapolis Colts. Download the appt 205 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 2: to score great deals on the events you love. We 206 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 2: come back, we're going to hear from four We're Colts 207 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,959 Speaker 2: coach and radio analyst Rick Venturi as he weighs in 208 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 2: on all the Colts moved so far in free agency. 209 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 2: He'll talk about why the new contracts for Daniel Jones 210 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:12,719 Speaker 2: and Alec Pierce were a necessity, and also he'll give 211 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 2: his opinions on the current state of the Colts roster 212 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 2: at this point. But you're locked in right here on 213 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 2: the last word ninety three five one O seven five 214 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 2: the fan. 215 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 5: We're giving you all you. 216 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 4: Need to know on the Colts. 217 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,079 Speaker 1: This is the Last Word with Matt Taylor and Casey 218 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: Valier from the Indiana Union Construction Industry Radio studio. 219 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 2: Who well not. 220 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 4: Oh, just not terrible terrible. Yeah, but you know what 221 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 4: you're driving down thirty one up in Carmel, Casey, we 222 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 4: know the words you're gonna get. Well, you know two 223 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 4: of the words. 224 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:51,319 Speaker 6: That's right. 225 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 4: You know you got a little your paldage on that 226 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 4: gas pedal. 227 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 2: Oh boy, welcome back to the Last Word, speed traps 228 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 2: and this is going brodd to you buy er buyers. 229 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:04,839 Speaker 2: The Super Bowl official super center of the Inanapolis Colts, 230 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 2: the Brown sponsor of one hundred local sports teams across 231 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 2: the Midwest. 232 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 5: And I think it's fine. 233 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:15,079 Speaker 2: By the way, Kim Wilde, Oh it's gotta be a 234 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:19,719 Speaker 2: one hit wonder. I honestly thought this was the Go 235 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 2: Gos No, you know that's who I thought. That's I 236 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 2: thought this was whoever you know the would walk like 237 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 2: an Egyptian that I'm really glad that that's no longer 238 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:35,559 Speaker 2: on the airways because we're gonna be a little smarter 239 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 2: here now because we're gonna hear from Rick Van Turrey. 240 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 2: So earlier this week, you had a chance to catch 241 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 2: up with former Cold coach and radio analyst Rick Van 242 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:48,079 Speaker 2: Turrey on that special off season edition of his podcast 243 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 2: Inside Football. 244 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 4: You check it out now, yeah, everywhere, Colds. 245 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 2: Dot com, the mobile app, anywhere you're down with your podcast, 246 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 2: and he kind of weighed in on all the moves 247 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 2: that Colts have made to this point in free agency, 248 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 2: and he really started talking about his thoughts on bringing back, 249 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 2: you know, Daniel Jones and Alec Pierce, and he talked 250 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,839 Speaker 2: about the development of what Alec Pierce has done and 251 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,439 Speaker 2: why it was so important to bring him back to 252 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 2: the Colton free agency. 253 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 5: Pierce is a guy that probably has improved as much 254 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:18,959 Speaker 5: as any player that I've been around. You know, he 255 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 5: came into the league as a guy with vertical speed 256 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 5: and if he got behind you and he got him 257 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 5: the ball, it was a big play, you know, not 258 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 5: a lot after that. By year two he really improved 259 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 5: and he became a terrific fifty to fifty ball guy, 260 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 5: you know. And then I think this year he really 261 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 5: improved the routree, the underneath stuff, the over stuff. And 262 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 5: so you've got a young player who's already achieved a ton, 263 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 5: but he still has a ton of upside. Yeah, because 264 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 5: he's going to get better. 265 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 6: You know. 266 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 5: Do I think he's necessarily Chase or Jefferson? Maybe not, 267 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 5: but he invaluable to us. Here's the role he plays 268 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 5: for us. One, he can take the roof off the defense. 269 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 5: I mean he can stretch it. He stretches it with 270 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 5: he stretches it with depth, and he's run by the 271 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 5: best corners in the league. It's not like this is 272 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 5: a fluke. The one thing that I love about yards 273 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 5: per catch, one thing I really judge the receiver on 274 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 5: yards per catch is because I think that validates that 275 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:30,319 Speaker 5: you don't need the scheme to get open yards for 276 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 5: catches an indication of one of two things. Either you 277 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 5: can beat the defense over the top or you can 278 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 5: catch and run. You know. And he's led the league 279 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 5: in that department. If you look at one of the 280 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 5: reasons that we went downhill to one of the reasons 281 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 5: that we went oh and seven, obviously the injury to 282 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:52,679 Speaker 5: Danny eliminated the ability to push the ball downfield. So 283 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:55,839 Speaker 5: in a sense, we not only lost our quarterback, but 284 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 5: we kind of really we minimized the Pierce effect and 285 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 5: then what did that do? That absolutely stuffed our running game. 286 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 5: I mean in the seven losses, you know, we go 287 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 5: from averaging thirty points a game in the first ten 288 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 5: down to only going over twenty once in the back seven. 289 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 5: And a lot of that was that one hundred yard 290 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 5: game to Jonathan Taylor. And so that's why I think, 291 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 5: you know, when you throw those three amigos in there, 292 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 5: they all are so important to one another. I mean, 293 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 5: obviously without a deep throw, without that guy that can 294 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 5: go get it, that guy that can get it to him, 295 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 5: then you take the best player on your team and 296 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 5: you you minimize his results. So yeah, I was thrilled 297 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 5: to death with Pierce, and I think Pierce is only 298 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 5: going to get better. But like I said, I think 299 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 5: there's a lot of upside yet, and if the improvement 300 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 5: quotion continues as it is, then you're gonna see I 301 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 5: think a lot more volume catching. Yeah. 302 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 2: I think we would both agree that there is still 303 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 2: some untapped potential in Alec Pierce. And that's the big 304 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 2: reason why this was a necessity for the Colts, because 305 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 2: I feel like they seen the same thing and now 306 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 2: you give him that volume, you can really see what 307 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 2: he can do well. 308 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 4: Rick and I have been pretty much saying the same 309 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 4: things and have a similar stance when it comes to 310 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 4: free agency. You got to have those game effectors, as 311 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 4: he calls them, and those are the guys that play 312 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 4: the quarterback spot and Alec Pierce at receiver. And when 313 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 4: you have Jones and Pierce and Taylor. He makes a 314 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 4: great point. When you have all those guys on the 315 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 4: field together, they play in concert together. So Jones's cerebral 316 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 4: nature puts the ball where it should go. It's on point, 317 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 4: it's accurate. Pierce takes the lid off the defense and 318 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 4: provides the big plays. But his threat of those big 319 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 4: plays keeps the safeties back further away from the line 320 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 4: of scrimmage, which helps the running game. So I know 321 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 4: I'm talking in like big picture generalities there, but that's 322 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 4: what it is. And to Rick's point, Casey, the Colts 323 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 4: didn't have two of those three elements last year when 324 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 4: when Daniel Jones went out of the lineup. 325 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 2: That's exactly right, and that's what is kind of the 326 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 2: next thing I want to talk to about. Rick, when 327 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 2: you're balancing all of these things in free agency, the 328 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 2: importance of those difference makers. Sometimes it means you got 329 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 2: to balance bringing them back, but you also lose five starters. Yeah, 330 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 2: for what the Colts did, and in the importance of 331 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 2: bringing up those other depth pieces this offseason. 332 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 5: You know, you take Jalons and you take Pierce off 333 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 5: this team, all of a sudden, you got Jonathan Taylor 334 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 5: can gain the yard. Basically, if you take those two 335 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 5: guys off the team, you go from a scoring thirty 336 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 5: points a game to twenty points a game. So you 337 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 5: can't you just cannot let game changers, game effectors. You 338 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 5: can't let those guys walk, and you're gonna have casualties now, 339 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 5: just offensively. You know we didn't, we haven't made a 340 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 5: lot of moves. We still have the draft. You know, 341 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 5: we did lose also Braden Smith. I mean, the amazing 342 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 5: thing is how many guys that have exited that have 343 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 5: been starters and got is that we've kind of known 344 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,400 Speaker 5: very well, we're gonna need a program for a while 345 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 5: here when we change oil with so many guys, and 346 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 5: you know, when Braden's been a solid guy here, but 347 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 5: you know what you're looking for is Travis to step up. There, 348 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 5: you know. And so when you talk about losing those 349 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 5: defensive guys as much as and I think some of 350 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 5: them are very very solid players. They're solid their core guys, 351 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 5: they're not game effectors. And we have gone out. We'll 352 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 5: get into that. We brought a lot of guys in 353 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 5: to replace those guys. You know, when you lose those guys. No, 354 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 5: none of those guys that we're losing on defense have 355 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 5: really impacted the game. They really haven't. And I think 356 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:47,719 Speaker 5: that the worst guy to me to lose is Cross. 357 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 5: I think Cross was the guy whose career was going upward, 358 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 5: and I think you'll see it continue to grow now 359 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 5: we've gone out and got a couple of safeties. But 360 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 5: you know, time will tell on that. But in terms 361 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 5: of the other guys, I think we've got replacements in 362 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 5: the guys that we've gone out. We've gone out and 363 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:08,880 Speaker 5: gotten you know, some safety depth. We've gotten a lot 364 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 5: of defensive line depth. You know, it's a lot like 365 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 5: changing oils when you're talking about core players. Core for 366 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 5: core It's not like the oilers. Changing makes you any better, 367 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 5: but it prevents you from getting worse. And I think 368 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 5: that really the impact really will come from guys that 369 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:29,239 Speaker 5: were here that got hurt. The impact players on our 370 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 5: defense are obviously Buckner. I mean, Buckner's loss was a killer. 371 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 5: And then the two corners that we've invested in, Ward 372 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 5: and Sauce. I mean, those are the guys. If they 373 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 5: come back, they will be the impact players. You know, 374 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 5: some of the guys that you've brought in, you know, 375 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 5: for instance, like Tillery and Naughty and Clemens, you know, 376 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 5: those guys are role players, but they may be upgrade. 377 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 5: Those guys I think are upgrades in terms of backup 378 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 5: defense line. You know a lot of that, a lot 379 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 5: of that is transition. It's again, it's like changing oil. 380 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 5: It's yeah, you know, it's it's one guy for another. 381 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 5: But the critical guys are really the I mean, the 382 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:13,719 Speaker 5: game changers are the guys that were here, Buckner, Sauce 383 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 5: and Ward, if you want to know the truth, and. 384 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 2: When you think about the depth that he talked about with, 385 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 2: you know, replacing some of those guys on the defensive line, 386 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 2: Rick really dove into if the Colts past rush has 387 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 2: been upgraded so far this because you talk about Quitty 388 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 2: pay Samson, Ebacom have signed elsewhere, but you bring in 389 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 2: arden Key Michael Clements, Jerry Tillery and Derek Noddy. 390 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, and so here's the thing, I mean, you gotta 391 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 4: have you got to have those difference makers. And so 392 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 4: when you when you have to pay the quarterback what 393 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 4: you're paying Daniel Jones now, and when you're paying Alec 394 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 4: Pierce what you're paying him now, guys like Quitty Pay 395 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 4: and Braden Smith and Nick Cross. Unfortunately, you can't keep 396 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 4: all of those guys. So the Colts bottom line, they've 397 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 4: lost good players. They've brought in good players, but you 398 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 4: just can't can't sacrifice losing your difference makers. And those 399 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,640 Speaker 4: are the guys that you know, take the ball out 400 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 4: of the end zone and put it in the end zone. 401 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 4: And if you don't have those guys, as Rick said, 402 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 4: I mean, Jonathan Taylor just didn't do too much in 403 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 4: the running game without the threat of those two other guys. 404 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:18,959 Speaker 4: And so that's the nature of the beast in the NFL. 405 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 4: And the Colts have done, I think a pretty good 406 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 4: job because it's been quantity, you know, a large wave 407 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 4: of players in this second wave of free agency, trying 408 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 4: to restock the roster, having to replace all of that. 409 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,880 Speaker 4: The Colts lost in that first wave when you had 410 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 4: to make tough decisions on letting deceptively expensive veteran free 411 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:42,640 Speaker 4: agents seek opportunities elsewhere. 412 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a really great breakdown that you had 413 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 2: with Rick about forty minutes of just raw inside Football 414 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 2: from Rick Ventura. I know everybody wants to hear it. 415 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 2: You can go check that out at Colts dot com, 416 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 2: the Colts Mobile app, or anywhere else you download your podcast. 417 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 2: It is time for the MJ Company's Rookie Report, and 418 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 2: I want to ask you, Matt, how does the return 419 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,400 Speaker 2: of Alec Pierce and then now the addition of Nick 420 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 2: Westbrook Akine impact the role of Tyler Warren, who was 421 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 2: a rookie last year heading into his second season. 422 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 4: Great question, you know, I don't think it does too much. 423 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 4: Or let me double back. I don't think it's going 424 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 4: to be too severe. Okay, because naturally, like like Rick 425 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 4: just said right there, you know, Pierce is gonna be 426 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 4: your outside receiver. So I don't think that's gonna change 427 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 4: anyone's role per se. You still want Pierce outside the 428 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 4: numbers because of his ability to stretch the field and 429 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 4: stretch the defense away from the line of scrimmage. So 430 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 4: I don't think the Colts are gonna take Pierce away 431 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 4: from that role per se. He just might be targeted 432 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 4: more So in saying that, I don't think Pierce is 433 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 4: gonna go to like, you know, something crazy like one 434 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 4: hundred and forty one hundred and fifty targets. I just 435 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 4: think his role is going to be more pronounced. But 436 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:59,120 Speaker 4: Pittman's high volume of targets that I think case he's 437 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 4: going to be more spread out between everybody else, between 438 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 4: Warren and Downs and Westbrook, Akine, et cetera. So I 439 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 4: mean Down to still your slot receiver. He's your possession 440 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 4: type guy with those possession type routes. Westbrook Akeena is 441 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 4: a guy that can win in the middle of the 442 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 4: field like Pittman. Yeah, he's got some deep ball go 443 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 4: routes in him as well. But I just think the 444 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 4: Colts are going to continue to feature Warren in the 445 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 4: same ways. Put him at tight end, put him in 446 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 4: the slot, use him in the backfield, use him as 447 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,400 Speaker 4: an h pack in the running game. I just think 448 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 4: the Colts have to do more things to get the 449 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 4: football into the hands of their best players, and so 450 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 4: I don't think Warren's role is going to be drastically changed, 451 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 4: but I think he's going to be more heavily utilized. 452 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,239 Speaker 4: With his versatility that he showed on display last year 453 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 4: as a rookie, I just think you're going to see 454 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 4: more of that because he's just that good of a 455 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 4: football player. 456 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, you talk about give hing the ball to your 457 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 2: best players, He's definitely one of the Colts' best players 458 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 2: and best options on offense. And that's your Rookie Update, 459 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 2: presented by MJ Companies, your Future in Focus. It's signed 460 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,160 Speaker 2: for our final time out we come back. We're gonna 461 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,120 Speaker 2: give you the Forum Credit Union question of the week, 462 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 2: which is what are your favorite t Y Hilton moments 463 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 2: of all time? And we will rank his top four 464 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 2: best moments. Bracket Style and our NCAA tournament happening this weekend. 465 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 2: Style of the t Y Hilton Congratulations on his retirement. 466 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:19,399 Speaker 5: That's all. 467 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 2: We return right here to the Last Word on ninety 468 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,880 Speaker 2: three five and one oh seven five the fan Home Up. 469 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: All, Welcome back to the Last Word, the offseason home 470 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 1: of Nicoles with Matt Taylor and Casey Vellier from the 471 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,360 Speaker 1: Indiana Union Construction Industry Radio Studio. 472 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 5: The Kansas City Playoff game to come back. 473 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 6: Unreal that. 474 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 5: I mean, they still talk about that till today, and 475 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 5: it's just it's just crazy that we never gave up. 476 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 3: We kept fighting claw. 477 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 6: And just kept clawing back, clawing back, And next thing 478 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 6: you know, we're in. 479 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 1: A ball game, down six, going in to win the 480 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 1: game and I split the safeties on a post. 481 00:23:58,560 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 5: Look let it go. 482 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 6: I remember before that play was like, oh, Brad, this 483 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,640 Speaker 6: one's coming. If Andrew's saying that to you, he says 484 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 6: like I need you, or like this is it? Like 485 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 6: you know, it just gives you that extral man. He 486 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:18,120 Speaker 6: was a great leader. 487 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 4: Oh great stuff right there. 488 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 2: That was the special edition Jack Doyle podcast that released 489 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 2: this week. 490 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 4: That was him talking again. Jack Doyle's favorite Colts player. 491 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:32,439 Speaker 2: He always says, t Y Hilton. 492 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,120 Speaker 4: You can catch that at Colts dot. 493 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 2: Com or anywhere else you're down on your podcast. A 494 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:41,400 Speaker 2: celebratory honoring with Jack Doyle giving t Y his flowers 495 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 2: of announcing his retirement. The Last Words brought to you 496 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 2: by Vivid Seeds. Vivid Seats it's the official fan experience 497 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 2: partner of the Indianapolis Colts. Download the app to score 498 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 2: great deals on the event you love and as we 499 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 2: mentioned right there with t Y Hilton. He did announce 500 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,360 Speaker 2: his retirement this week, which makes our Forum credit union 501 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 2: question very simple. 502 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 4: Okay, you ready for this man? Okay. 503 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 2: He last played in the NFL twenty twenty two, but 504 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 2: he finishes his ten year NFL career ranking third in 505 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,640 Speaker 2: team history in catches and receiving yards. He also produced 506 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 2: five one thousand yard seasons and his fifty three receiving 507 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 2: touchdowns are fourth most in Colts history. Dude, So what 508 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 2: we're gonna do is, we're just gonna simply rank t 509 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 2: Y Hilton's greatest moments in a Colts uniform. And we're 510 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 2: gonna do it n C doublea March Madness bracket style 511 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,879 Speaker 2: with the top four seeds. All right, Okay, so we're 512 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 2: gonna start. We're gonna play some highlights for you. So 513 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 2: we're gonna start with the one seed, t Y Hilton 514 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 2: and just what he was talking about that game against 515 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 2: the Chiefs and the playoffs, his sixty four yard touchdown 516 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,400 Speaker 2: against the Chiefs in that twenty fourteen AFC Wild Card 517 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 2: game against the Kansas City Chiefs. Here's lucky the Colts 518 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 2: from their own thirty six with a fresh set of 519 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 2: downs steps up one look at his call a touchdown. 520 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 4: I remember, I remember it like yesterday. That was the 521 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 4: loudest moment, yes, in the history of Lucas Oil Stadium, 522 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,120 Speaker 4: still I think to this day. Obviously you can argue 523 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,160 Speaker 4: different things, but for my money, I mean, I could 524 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 4: not hear myself. It was so loud. It was almost 525 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,159 Speaker 4: like silent, if that makes sense, right. No, I mean 526 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 4: that that moment might be the most quintessential t Y 527 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 4: moment that there is. It's gonna be tough to beat 528 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 4: that one seed right there, I can tell you that. 529 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 2: So putting that into context, that touchdown gave the Colts 530 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 2: their first lead of the game with just four minutes 531 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 2: and twenty one seconds left in the fourth quarter. Hilton 532 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 2: had two hundred and twenty four receiving yards, spearheading that 533 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 2: massive twenty eight point comeback for the Colts, the second 534 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 2: largest in NFL playoff history. So it goes up against 535 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 2: the fourth seed, which is the Dagger against the Chargers. 536 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 2: A sixty three yard game winning touchdown against the Chargers 537 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 2: in Week three of the twenty sixteen seasons. 538 00:26:55,560 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 4: Inside holds two. That's its touch time, sixty three yards. 539 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 2: I mean, does it make ye, it might make it 540 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 2: better too than Kevin Harlan. Thell to give that gives 541 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 2: it even more, gives it some juice for sure. So 542 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 2: Andrew Luck right there throws a slant at t Y 543 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 2: near midfielder. He spun out of a tackle. Yeah, broke free, 544 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 2: and he the rest of the way to the end zone, 545 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 2: and uh, you know it just t Y oh Man, 546 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 2: You know you ain't kidding there, buddy, if you had 547 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 2: to rank him right there, who are you going the one. 548 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 4: Of the four? Listen, it's it's a close game. It 549 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 4: gets down to the last four minutes. But yeah, t 550 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 4: Y Hilton against the Chiefs and the playoffs they pull 551 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 4: ahead for like a double digit win against ah you know, 552 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 4: a formidable four seed. But you know the one is 553 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 4: moving on into the final, the final game, if you will, 554 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 4: absolutely so. 555 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 2: The other matchup here in the final four, the two 556 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 2: the two seeds. T Y Hilton torches the legion of boom. 557 00:27:58,400 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 2: You gotta go all the way back to that two 558 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 2: thous in thirteen season. T Y Hilton's seventy three yard 559 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 2: touchdown against the Seahawks in Week five that twenty thirteen season. 560 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 5: He's gonna air it out he's. 561 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 1: Got his. 562 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 4: T oh yeah, three yards in the game. 563 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 5: Oh yeah. 564 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 4: The Colts were down bid to start that game. They're 565 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,400 Speaker 4: down two scores in the first quarter, and you're thinking, 566 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 4: all right, this this Seattle team, it's one of the 567 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 4: best in the NFL. I think they went on to 568 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:31,880 Speaker 4: win the Super Bowl. 569 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 6: There it is. 570 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 4: Yes, that's exactly right, and I can just see it still. 571 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 4: I mean torching Richard Sherman in the secondary against that 572 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 4: legion of boom to get I mean over two hundred 573 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 4: yards receiving in that game. It was epic by t Y. 574 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 2: That was the first loss of the season too, that 575 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 2: Seattle handed So oh yeah, that legion of boom was 576 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 2: pretty impressive defense, but not for team. 577 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 4: US Bradley, right, Gus Bradley, that is that is right. 578 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 2: So it goes up against the three seed and I 579 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 2: don't know where to go on this one because we 580 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 2: had to throw t Y in Houston does have to. 581 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 5: So this is a three. 582 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 2: Touchdown game against the Texans in NRG Stadium in Week 583 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:06,959 Speaker 2: nine of twenty thirteen. 584 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 3: Oh out blitz and the pass is caught for a 585 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 3: touchdown by t Y. Hilton look hangs in going indeed, 586 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 3: then It's caught on the run by t Y Hilton 587 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 3: for a touchdown to the outside to the right side 588 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 3: and a great move by t Y Hilton's to keep 589 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 3: it inside and take it into the end zone. 590 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 4: Trifecta at NRG Stadium. We said those words a lot 591 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 4: touchdown t Y on the road against the Texans. 592 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 6: Case. 593 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 4: It's funny, are you know? 594 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 2: We we always talk about how we're really close friends 595 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 2: with you know, Mark VanderMeer and John Harris who on radio. 596 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 4: Calls fank you stagger in the heart. 597 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 2: They oh man, they are just anytime t Y Hilton 598 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 2: is mentioned, they just like get shiverrous because of what 599 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 2: they started twitching. 600 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 5: Oh man. 601 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 4: So that is the three seed going up against the 602 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 4: two seed. I don't know. 603 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 2: That's a tough one there, Matt. What are you going there? 604 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 4: You know what, I'm just going quantity. So I'm going 605 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 4: up here. I'm going three over the two. Give me 606 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 4: the three touchdown. Huge comeback performance for the cold spearheaded 607 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 4: by t Y Hilton in that game on the road 608 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 4: against the Texans. So I'm picking that game because of 609 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 4: what it represents. Yeah, see, absolutely terrorizing the Texans, you know, 610 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 4: no matter where they played but specifically throughout the course 611 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 4: of his career at NRG Stadium. That's why I give 612 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 4: the nod to the three seed advancing on there. All right, 613 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 4: So before we dive. 614 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 2: Into that three versus the one, I'm gonna put some 615 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 2: context into what you're saying. Twenty three games against the Texans, 616 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 2: Hilton caught over one hundred passes for over eighteen hundred 617 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 2: yards and eleven touchdowns. But at NRG Stadium, Matt he 618 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 2: averaged over one hundred yards receiving per game, one hundred 619 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 2: and eight yards per game receiving. 620 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 4: Against the Tech against the Texans. 621 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 2: At NRG Stadium, seventeen percent of his career receiving yards 622 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 2: came against the Houston Texans. So you have to talk 623 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 2: about Ty against a fifth I always love when you 624 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 2: know the Wikipedia page put you know who is the 625 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 2: owner of Energy Stadia. 626 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 4: Those are great. 627 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, those him and the clown mask and all of it. 628 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 2: Oh man, I love t Y Hilton versus Houston. So 629 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 2: we're gonna do number three seed t Y Hilton's three 630 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 2: touchdowns against Houston against the one seed and that Chiefs. 631 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 4: Playoff game where you're going, Matt, Well, I'm just gonna 632 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 4: spin I'm gonna pick the specific moment. I still think 633 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 4: it's t Y Hilton. You know that that that game. 634 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 4: I think, you know, NFL Films just did a whole 635 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 4: documentary about that game, and I think the documentary for 636 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 4: t Y Torch and the Texans. I think that's coming 637 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 4: one day at least. Yeah, it's kind of like winning time, 638 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 4: you know, t Y against the Texans. But yeah, I 639 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 4: think if I have to pick gun to head, t 640 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 4: Y Hilton against the playoffs, that was a signature Colts moment, 641 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 4: signature Andrew Luck moment, Chuck Pagano moment, and just that 642 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 4: era of Colts. That's what that era was defined by. 643 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 4: Just still the loudest moment in the history of Lucas 644 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 4: So Oil STATEIU. 645 00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:58,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and that's where I would go too, 646 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 2: because you talk about that little nugget the loudest moment. 647 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 2: You think about the two loud moments that we've occurred, 648 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 2: I think the two loudest would be that and then 649 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 2: maybe the Manning return game. 650 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 4: But I still think that one maybe was louder. I meant, 651 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 4: it's a playoff game. 652 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 2: The magnitude of all of it was just incredible, and 653 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 2: it's just you know, we don't have enough words to 654 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 2: continue to talk about t Y Hilton, but man, what 655 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 2: an incredible brother. It was a lot of fun being 656 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 2: right here watching. I would say, ghosts all of your career. 657 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 2: I know he had that stint with the Cowboys, but 658 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 2: just tip of the cap to the ghosts and everything 659 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 2: he represented, and you know, looking forward to seeing that 660 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 2: next chapter and all the success he has as he's 661 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 2: the head coach of his alma mater down in Miami, 662 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 2: of the high school that he went to. So a 663 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 2: lot of fun with t Y Hilton when he was 664 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 2: a cult, but big tip of the cap and congratulations 665 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 2: on a wonderful career. Visit the forum credit Union fanforum 666 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 2: section of Colts dot com to interact with other fans online. 667 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 2: You can post a topic and participate in various discussions 668 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 2: regarding the Colts Forum credit Union helping members live their 669 00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 2: financial dreams. That's gonna do it for tonight's last Word, 670 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 2: enjoy college basketball tonight and into the weekend. ESPN Radio 671 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 2: is up next. But for Matt Taylor, I'm Casey Valiant. 672 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 2: Thanks a lot for listening to us here on the 673 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 2: Last Word. On ninety three five and one oh seventy five, 674 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 2: The Fare