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Speaker 1: Welcome to Mondays and they's a big look kig off

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Speaker 1: Good to be with you for the next sixty minutes.

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Speaker 1: Two zero one four five one three. That is the

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Speaker 1: this is our first show since Friday's preseason game. Will

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Speaker 1: recap give you some of our takeaways from that game,

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Speaker 1: and we'll also get to your phone calls as well

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Speaker 1: as your tweets. Pat Shermer spoke a few minutes ago

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Speaker 1: just in terms of real quickly Howard some news and

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Speaker 1: notes on that front. Michael Thomas was excused from practice

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Speaker 1: today because he had some league issues to attend to

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Speaker 1: because he is one of the nfl p A reps.

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Speaker 1: Then Tay Davis was under the weather so he did

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Speaker 1: not take part in practice. It was also good to

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Speaker 1: see DeAndre Baker get back out there in individual drills, Howard,

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Speaker 1: considering he is still nursing that. Soren, well, you know,

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Speaker 1: most of the things are good news, and no one's

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Speaker 1: no one's really heard or banged up, So we're we're

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Speaker 1: coming around here on the health scale, I think that's

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Speaker 1: what all teams are trying to do, is keep their

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Speaker 1: players healthy. But I will say what I say to

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Speaker 1: people all the time, it would be better if I

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Speaker 1: got to get a little banged up in preseason then

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Speaker 1: to get banged up the first game of the season

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Speaker 1: cautious with, oh, they're so healthy, because when the season starts,

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Speaker 1: you never know, Yeah, when the injury buck is gonna strike.

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Speaker 1: It's completely unpredictable. So that's more of a reason why

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Speaker 1: you know, sometimes you get your bumps in your bruises

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Speaker 1: in early. It's not necessarily a stunning development once it

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Speaker 1: comes to the regular season. Now, a number of key

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Speaker 1: players were sidelined in Friday's preseason game because Pat Shermer

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Speaker 1: was holding them back either due to injury or you

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Speaker 1: look at Evan Ingram and say Kwan Barkley getting their

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Speaker 1: rest in no point of exposing them to injury. But

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Speaker 1: And I want to start speaking of sa Kwan Barkley

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Speaker 1: number of opportunities. It was a very productive first drive,

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Speaker 1: ten play, seventy nine yards elin Manning connected with Benny

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Speaker 1: Faller for the touchdown. But I think what jumped out

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Speaker 1: to me was Rod Smith and how they utilized him

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Speaker 1: First off, of the ones weren't playing Chicago played nobody

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Speaker 1: had a really intense scrimmage and you know, inter practice

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Speaker 1: got a little Yes, they got a little shippy. I

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Speaker 1: then like, this is an opportunity for you to get

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Speaker 1: They really wanted to, uh, the mean, pat and everyone

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Speaker 1: that's what coach wants to see it. And again we

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Speaker 1: take a grain salt, but of course getting your assignment.

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Speaker 1: Being able to do that, it makes the film a

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Speaker 1: For the coaches, they want to see, Hey, how did

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Speaker 1: want to spread the wealth this season, and they would

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Speaker 1: like Barkley to certainly do his thing, but they'd like

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Speaker 1: everybody to increase their production of an ingram, sterling, shepherd,

429
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Speaker 1: golden tate, you name it, and not to help the

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Speaker 1: offense move along as opposed to just one guy in particular. Well,

431
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Speaker 1: it's gonna be a lot of this year if if

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Speaker 1: England stays healthy, I think he's gonna be the big,

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Speaker 1: big factor because I'm with you, he's a bigger, the

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Speaker 1: taller of the receivers, he's tight end, he's one of

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Speaker 1: the faster guys. Again, even though he's in the tight

436
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Speaker 1: end and splitting him out, pulling him. Man, it's gonna

437
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Speaker 1: be a you know, a big matchup problem for the

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Speaker 1: defense no matter where they are. The cooler brought up

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Speaker 1: Paul Perkins and the one thing that I wanted to know,

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Speaker 1: and I've brought this up a few times, Howard, I

441
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Speaker 1: think it says something about the Giants. He touris pectoral

442
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Speaker 1: muscle and he missed the entire season, but the Giants

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Speaker 1: they put him on. I R he was around the team,

444
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Speaker 1: he was in the film room, he was staying on

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Speaker 1: top of the offense. That doesn't mean that he's a

446
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Speaker 1: lock for whatever's gonna happen here on the final roster,

447
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Speaker 1: But I do think that says a lot about the

448
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Speaker 1: fact that they kept him around and that he was

449
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Speaker 1: very engaged with the team last year. I think he

450
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Speaker 1: kept him around. I don't think it was the Giants

451
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Speaker 1: kept him around. I think a lot of players get

452
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Speaker 1: hurt and they get this hardened and they go into

453
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Speaker 1: this almost depressionary state where they're sitting around like, oh man,

454
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Speaker 1: I'm not really part of the team anymore, you know.

455
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Speaker 1: And it's one of those things where the giants allow

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Speaker 1: guys to come around. So he's hurt, he's injured, but

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Speaker 1: he comes to every meeting. If he comes to every meeting,

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Speaker 1: that means the teams allowing him come to every meeting.

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Speaker 1: Some teams don't allow that. Some teams like, hey, look,

460
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Speaker 1: if you're injured, we'll bring you back when you're healthy.

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Speaker 1: Buy them letting him, you know, and being the meetings

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Speaker 1: it made him, you know, for the coaching staff, made

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Speaker 1: them like, huh, well, this kid must really want to

464
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Speaker 1: play if he's willing to. He's sitting here when he

465
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Speaker 1: has no no potential, no no way to get back

466
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Speaker 1: on the field. He's still sitting here doing this. So

467
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Speaker 1: that that caught their eye. And just like all of

468
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Speaker 1: a sudden, you're walking through the hall and get a

469
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Speaker 1: chance to talk to hey, coach, how are you doing today?

470
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Speaker 1: I'm doing pretty good, man, And you start striking up conversations.

471
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Speaker 1: Now they're thinking about you even more. Then every time

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Speaker 1: they come in you're in the probably in the gym

473
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Speaker 1: working out. They could see you through the glass like, well,

474
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Speaker 1: he's in here pretty early, dedicated, And so its just

475
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Speaker 1: It's just it's the you gotta walk to walk a

476
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Speaker 1: little bit for for guys to like can just to

477
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Speaker 1: be lip servers. They gotta see you doing it. And

478
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Speaker 1: then the first day in practice they're calling plays and

479
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Speaker 1: drawn up, drawing up things out of the playbook, and

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Speaker 1: you know them because you've been in every meeting and

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Speaker 1: you know why I didn't work before and why it

482
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Speaker 1: should work now, So you can make adjustment. You're making

483
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Speaker 1: adjustments faster than the guys are on the field or

484
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Speaker 1: the rookies that just came in who have yet to

485
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Speaker 1: absorb the offense. Plus on top of that all the

486
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Speaker 1: free agents that came in, that's another entity to consider.

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Speaker 1: And then on top of that Pat Shermer, he was

488
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Speaker 1: the first year head coach with the Giants last year,

489
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Speaker 1: so Perkins knew I have to somehow make a strong

490
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Speaker 1: impressure because he wasn't here in seventeen and sixteen, Howard,

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Speaker 1: when I wasn't member of the bad that I was

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Speaker 1: on the field. Well, again, I just think it's just

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Speaker 1: it's the character of the guy. And more so than anything,

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't know if it was a conscious

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Speaker 1: affter the best, just the way he is you know, hey,

496
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Speaker 1: can I don't mind if I sit in on these

497
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Speaker 1: meetings and you know what they're gonna say, you like, no,

498
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Speaker 1: get away from here, Like come on, then sit down.

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Speaker 1: You know, he's not doing anything, you're asking any questions.

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Speaker 1: He's just sitting there and taking notes. He's making sure

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Speaker 1: that he's being a part of it and encouraging guys

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Speaker 1: along the way. So he's being a leader without saying anything,

503
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Speaker 1: being an extra set of eyes when something goes on.

504
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Speaker 1: That that's what you have to do. If you love

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Speaker 1: what you're doing, that's what you do. Let's head back

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Speaker 1: to the phone lines. We check in with Steve in

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Speaker 1: New York. Steve, Welcome the Big Blue Kick Off Live.

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Speaker 1: What do you have for us? How are you guys

509
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Speaker 1: doing today? Very good, doing well, Steve? What's on your mind? So?

510
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Speaker 1: I was thinking about regals for optimism, and you know,

511
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Speaker 1: I was taking like a pulse of the team that

512
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Speaker 1: you would and I'm thinking this is here too, Shermer, gentleman. Error.

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Speaker 1: And I just feel like when I'm watching the games,

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Speaker 1: from what we've been able to see so far, they're

515
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Speaker 1: making mistakes. But it's it's okay. It's like it's not

516
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Speaker 1: a lack of skill. It's just they didn't know. And

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Speaker 1: it's like a different feeling than it's been the last

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Speaker 1: couple of years. I felt like when I saw all

519
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Speaker 1: mistakes on the field, it was like, what were you doing?

520
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Speaker 1: Like you just didn't know what you were doing. I

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Speaker 1: don't feel that this year. It feels like, oh, that's

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Speaker 1: a correctable error or um, you know, there's a rookie.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't have a lot of experience. You'll get better

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Speaker 1: at that. And it just seems like a talent level

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Speaker 1: it's a lot higher, you know, and on both sides

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Speaker 1: of the field. On both sides of the ball too.

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Speaker 1: I even like, look at Eli and Eli we actually

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Speaker 1: see a little bit more of him last week against

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Speaker 1: the Bears. He was throwing starts. I mean, like, I

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Speaker 1: haven't seen Eli throw like that in a long time.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know how he's been looking to practice,

532
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Speaker 1: but he looked really good in the game. And then

533
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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones comes out and he just it's decis it.

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Speaker 1: He knows where he wants to go to the ball,

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Speaker 1: and for a rookie, I feel like he's light years

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Speaker 1: ahead of where I had anticipated him to be because

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Speaker 1: he just seems to have I know, it's probably watered

538
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Speaker 1: down a little bit for him, so he's going through

539
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Speaker 1: simpler reads and stuff. But what he is deciding to

540
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Speaker 1: go somewhere at the ball, his ball placement is awesome. Yes,

541
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Speaker 1: the decision making in it's quick. You know, it's just

542
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Speaker 1: encouraging to see that over It's like the whole team.

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Speaker 1: It's just as exciting as a fan because I'll deal

544
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Speaker 1: with a mistake because you're a rookie, versus a mistake

545
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 1: because you just didn't know what you're doing. You know,

546
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Speaker 1: you don't see a lot of confusion in the backfield

547
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Speaker 1: of guys on defense looking at each other like what

548
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Speaker 1: are you doing? What do you know what? Their hands up,

549
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 1: yelling at each other. It just seems to be so

550
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 1: much more positive, and I just I'm excited to see

551
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Speaker 1: where this team, how this team grows together this year. Alright, Steve, Well,

552
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,880
Speaker 1: appreciate the phone call, Thanks so much for weighing in

553
00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 1: to his point. Tower This is a young roster both

554
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,959
Speaker 1: sides of the ball. It's a relatively young group. I mean,

555
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 1: when when you look at some of the key players

556
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Speaker 1: that they're gonna rely on, whether it be on offense,

557
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 1: or defense. So you know when he says I see guys,

558
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 1: maybe they're making mistakes and you can understand it's correctible.

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Speaker 1: I think part of that is because of the youth

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Speaker 1: on the roster. I think, first off, think about last

561
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Speaker 1: year and the huge overturn of players. A lot of changes,

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Speaker 1: all right, So like overt were maybe the only thty

563
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,200
Speaker 1: percent remained or something like that, that that very few guys.

564
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Speaker 1: They got very few guys, and then you have all

565
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Speaker 1: new guys and you can't fill a team in one year.

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Speaker 1: So they're pulling guys everywhere, including the draft. They were

567
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Speaker 1: pulling guys from everywhere. Now you've got a year of okay,

568
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Speaker 1: So now I've kind of grouped a good group of

569
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Speaker 1: guys that are going to be able to stick with me.

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Speaker 1: Now I can go and get a whole another set

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Speaker 1: of of of draft picks and free agents, and now

572
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Speaker 1: I'm building a team. And as coach, you know and

573
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Speaker 1: and you know, uh Mr Gelman both say you know,

574
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Speaker 1: you got to start ground up and expand, and that's

575
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Speaker 1: what they've been doing. So when fans are watching the game,

576
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Speaker 1: now like wow, man Eli looks good. He's snapping the

577
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Speaker 1: ball like, well, nobody's standing on his toes, he's got yeh,

578
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 1: and he has room to survey the field. And when

579
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Speaker 1: no one standing on your toes, you can look like

580
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Speaker 1: the guy that you look like when you took drug

581
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Speaker 1: two teams to the Super Bowl. And same goes with

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones. Daniel Jones has been the benefactor of some

583
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:22,719
Speaker 1: really clean pockets except further, except for the one fumble, like,

584
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 1: guys haven't been around him and he hasn't been sacked.

585
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Speaker 1: He hasn't been you know, hit or jostled or anything

586
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 1: like that. I think he got one. They got one pressure.

587
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 1: He completed the ball, but that's it. So if you're

588
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 1: getting better, better play from your offensive line like that,

589
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 1: your quarterbacks are gonna look a lot better hand in hand.

590
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 1: And Eli has looked good in practice too, the Kohler

591
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,640
Speaker 1: had asked, and part of that, I think is what

592
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 1: he went about his business in the off season. He

593
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 1: worked with a trainer that had a baseball background, so

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00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 1: he was trying to keep that on fresh. I don't

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Speaker 1: necessarily think that that's any indicative of any indication, excuse me,

596
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Speaker 1: of what's going to happen in the regular season. Because

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Speaker 1: Eli usually is on top of his body, but at

598
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 1: is something different at least that he went about his business.

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Speaker 1: And you're right, the cleanness of the pocket and the

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00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 1: ability to you know, operate in a comfort zone, I

601
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Speaker 1: think it's fair to say has given these quarterbacks time

602
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 1: to make plays and look efficient. So that to me

603
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 1: is a big part of the difference. The other thing

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00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 1: is there's a lot of guys on this defense in

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Speaker 1: year two, Howard and you were alluding to this who

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Speaker 1: have familiarity with James Betcher's scheme. Right, you had a

607
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 1: number of guys that were brought back like the Kareem Martin's.

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Speaker 1: Then you added Marcus Golden and Antoine Bethet and they

609
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 1: already know the defense. So the more faces that you're

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00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 1: adding that know a thing or two, you would assume

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Speaker 1: guys are not confused. They may make mistakes, meaning they

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00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 1: didn't execute they weren't in you know, position to make

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Speaker 1: a play, but that doesn't mean that they don't know

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Speaker 1: what went wrong when that occurred. You're bringing in more

615
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: players are gonna make plays for you, and they can

616
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 1: get other players in the right place. You know that

617
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 1: the communication is going to go up by you know, tenfold,

618
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 1: because once you get the safety back there who knows

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Speaker 1: whereverybody supposed to be standing, you, the linebacker and the

620
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 1: line and that that can tell hey look hey, slide over, slide,

621
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Speaker 1: let's go Like that helps because these guys are you know,

622
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 1: their their extensions of the coach out on the field.

623
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Speaker 1: When when there's you know, when everything's going on and

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Speaker 1: and the bullets with flying as they say, I don't

625
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 1: want to say, that's probably a bad, bad term. When

626
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 1: the fires. Yeah, when the fire is on and it

627
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 1: gets really hot, won't matter. They'll still be cool. They'll

628
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 1: still understand what to do. They'll still be able to

629
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Speaker 1: give direction to have everybody rallying, having the right place.

630
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Speaker 1: So it's easy. It's easier than all of a sudden

631
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Speaker 1: you make Peppers a better player, all of a sudden

632
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 1: you make Carter a better player. You started making these

633
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 1: guys better players because hey, look we know what to do.

634
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 1: And that's what Dexa. Lawrence is gonna be a better

635
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 1: player as a rookie coming in even though he's a rookie,

636
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 1: because hey, look the guys around him, we're here last year.

637
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 1: So when they say they tell him like okay, here

638
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 1: they come, they're coming to motion. Slide over play the gap,

639
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 1: play the gap, and like all of a sudden, it's

640
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 1: it starts to happen easier and they start doing it

641
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 1: without out just one slide, and all of a sudden,

642
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 1: the whole defense changes better fe for environment as well

643
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 1: as where guys fit into the scheme and all of

644
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 1: those things. To your point, when they click, it makes

645
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 1: the defense that much more comfortable. The other thing related

646
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 1: to the defense is keep in mind that this time

647
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 1: last year, Howard it was Landed Collins and Curtis Riley

648
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 1: a converted corner, So not only was he learning a

649
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: new defense, by the way, Curtis Riley was also changing positions,

650
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 1: and Landon Collins was learning a new defense. So now

651
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 1: you bring in Antoine Bithet, who already knows the defense,

652
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 1: who everybody else could feed off of, and you bring

653
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 1: in Jabrol Peppers who's not changing positions and also has

654
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 1: some Ventereran experience at the safety spots. So the dynamics

655
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 1: of the defense is a lot different. Yeah, you got

656
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 1: like I said, you put put Pepper guys around the

657
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 1: field a different spots that were your guys somewhere else

658
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 1: they could make plays, and all of a sudden they're

659
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 1: teaching your defense to two guys. If they're not teaching

660
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 1: what they're on the field during play, they're teaching on

661
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 1: the sideline. Hey, look, make sure you're watching. This is

662
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen. See that that gall right there commanding.

663
00:30:58,440 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 1: He knows when it wasn't a slot. You gotta be

664
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 1: care focus of this. They're they're talking through it on

665
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 1: the side and you can see them do it. Even

666
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 1: Jack Rabbit is over there coaching, and the guy who

667
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 1: says I'm not a leader, I don't do what he

668
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 1: he's on the sideline coaching and he's like, tell you, hey,

669
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:12,719
Speaker 1: pay attention. It's watch right right, watch right here, look

670
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 1: what they're trying to do. And he's coaching the defense

671
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 1: up from what the coach is telling him. So it's

672
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 1: pretty cool. And one of the things that Antoine Biffett

673
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 1: has mentioned over the course of the off season is

674
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 1: they're at the point, Howard, where they understand the defense

675
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 1: for the most part. Everybody that now they can question, well,

676
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: why are we doing this? Meaning why did James Betcher

677
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 1: ask for this play based on the offensive look as

678
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 1: opposed to just getting into the basics of the defensive

679
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 1: That also, I think says a lot about the evolution

680
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 1: of where they are as an entire unit. Well, I

681
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: understand why you're saying, why is Jonas Betcher doing this?

682
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: They should be like, Okay, guys, this is happening. This

683
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 1: is why we're doing it. We know why it's happening

684
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 1: more so than we can ask why it is happening.

685
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 1: It's like, coach, why would you call this? You're not

686
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 1: anticipating the other side. The defense is supposed to teach

687
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 1: you how to how to respect and look at and

688
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 1: receive and an offensive play when somebody comes out, when

689
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 1: a personnel hits the field, Okay, they're jogging from the

690
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 1: sideline into the field. There's eleven personnel. Okay, well this this,

691
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 1: this could happen. Then all something. They going in formation

692
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 1: because there are three by one formation. Now you've liminated

693
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 1: that down to the three wid one formations. If the

694
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 1: guy goes in motion to make it two by two,

695
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 1: you're like, okay, it's not two by two, it's motion

696
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 1: to two by two. So you know what those plays

697
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 1: are are those tendencies, and that makes it easier for

698
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 1: you to play defense because you're anticipating what's happening and

699
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 1: you're going through your gaps. If they do something off color,

700
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 1: off scheme, you should be in your spot anyway, because

701
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 1: you've you've anticipated what's gonna happen, and you're not gonna

702
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: be that far away from the play, so you can

703
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 1: make good Trust me again once again, that's all fits

704
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: into what we started the conversation off with respect to

705
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 1: the defense. Two zero five one three, let's head back

706
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 1: to the lines. Rick is in Tampa. Rick, Welcome to

707
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 1: Big Blue Kick Off Live. What do you have for us? Hey,

708
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 1: hour last? How are you guys? Very good? Very good.

709
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 1: It's funny you said about two days. You know what

710
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: that means now? I think one day. Uh, sometimes you

711
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 1: wear two flags versus one flag when you're running around,

712
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 1: Well it's a different world. Yeah, it's not quite the same,

713
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 1: you know. And I give props to the uh what Schumer.

714
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: Schumer has done so far with the offensive. Lind playing

715
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 1: longer into both games so far. I think that's a

716
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 1: great I'm not afraid to get him out there. It

717
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 1: gets to COHESI to see going and I think that's

718
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 1: a good thing. I think you can only help, um,

719
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: you know, roll the dice on the injury thing. But

720
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 1: you know what, he's going out there, they're out there,

721
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 1: they're getting together and there and they are looking a

722
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 1: lot better. So I think that's that's that's important. I

723
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 1: think that's I believe it or not. I think that's

724
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 1: a product of Nate's shoulders. I think NATed. I think

725
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 1: Nate likes to not just get in shape. He's recognized

726
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 1: the camps changing drastically as he goes. He figures that

727
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 1: he can get more reps. It helps his conditioning, helps

728
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 1: his timing. And when he does it, Hernandez like, Okay,

729
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 1: if you're going out there, you're not going out with

730
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 1: there without me, And then they're all trying to get

731
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 1: into like okay, well we don't want him getting more

732
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,760
Speaker 1: reps and we're not getting them. For as you would

733
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 1: feel that some players are trying to get off the

734
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 1: field of preseason. Nate is trying to get more reps

735
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 1: in the preseason. So about him doing so, it drags

736
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 1: the other guy's loans. It's leaning back then, Yeah, that

737
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 1: and I think that's been. That's been can only be

738
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 1: positive and we've seen it so far. Regarding now you

739
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,800
Speaker 1: brought up and I wanted to talk about specifically Jones

740
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 1: as a wide receiver because the connection that he has

741
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 1: he seems to have so far with Daniel Jones. Jones

742
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 1: to Jones is he he looks for him and he

743
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 1: knows where he is now. I didn't know that he

744
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:41,839
Speaker 1: didn't run back a play. You guys were talking about

745
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 1: it earlier. He kind of shagged out, you know, didn't hustle.

746
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 1: So that is that isn't good to improve on that,

747
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 1: But I think the connection between the Jones and the

748
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,800
Speaker 1: Jones could loom big down the road if he stays

749
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 1: on as well. Don't you agree on that? Yeah, I mean,

750
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 1: all of these things gonna be huge, I think, you know,

751
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 1: in not beating on Jones, I'm just saying it was

752
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 1: a rookie mistake. As the guy goes to the ground,

753
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 1: he turns his back and kind of gives up on

754
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:10,919
Speaker 1: the plate, not not realizing, you know, in college he's

755
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 1: on the ground, he can get up and run. So

756
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 1: that happens quite often every year to some guy, like

757
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,800
Speaker 1: a receiver, catch the ball to go down and just

758
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 1: leave the ball on the ground. It's like it's a

759
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 1: live ball. So it just, you know, just one of

760
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 1: those rookie things you have to get through. Well, and

761
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 1: I think for t J. Jones it was more of

762
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 1: just getting caught up in the frustration and the emotions

763
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 1: of the interception. Because Charles is a veteran, he's been

764
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 1: on the Lions for a few seasons. I find it

765
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 1: hard to believe Howard that at this point he doesn't

766
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 1: know the rules. How differentiate Again, you were trying to

767
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: give him break. I don't know if I'm gonna give

768
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 1: it that much of a break. Okay, I'm not gonna

769
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:48,439
Speaker 1: be the nice guy. Yeah, oh boy, you were really

770
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: giving up a lot of rope. I'm taking that rope

771
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: back immediately outward, all right. And I thought you were

772
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 1: being I gotta be the guy next to you. But

773
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,879
Speaker 1: but getting back to your point, Rick, I think you're

774
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 1: getting a little too ahead of yourself in terms of

775
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 1: the Jones the Jones connection, because first of all, he

776
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,280
Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily have a long term contract with the Giants.

777
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 1: And I get it that it's exciting to see them

778
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 1: hooking up in the preseason, but it's more important if

779
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:15,839
Speaker 1: t J. Jones does make the team and he gets

780
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,320
Speaker 1: reps what he does with Eli Manning at this stage

781
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 1: as opposed to what he does with Daniel Joe. I agree, yeah,

782
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 1: I agree. That breaks me to my final point. And uh,

783
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 1: the other guy was talking about is the bold predictions

784
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 1: that type of thing. And I'm a huge Elive fan.

785
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,280
Speaker 1: I think he looks great and if he gets blocking,

786
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 1: we'll see what he could do. But you know what,

787
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 1: I have four no to start it off. I think

788
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 1: that hinges on the Dallas game. If they could play

789
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 1: a Dallas team that's Zeke, you know that he's not

790
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 1: there yet perhaps or even if he's not ready, and

791
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 1: we have their slight weakness and we could beat them

792
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 1: and we could possibly go four no. But I think

793
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 1: if the Giants aren't three and one after four games

794
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 1: and and and unfortunately, if there are two and two

795
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 1: or i'd forbid one and three something like that, I

796
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 1: think the change will come then. Uh. And I don't

797
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 1: want to see that because I love Eli, but I

798
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 1: think that would be the time to do it, because

799
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:07,399
Speaker 1: there's no reason the Giants can't be three and one

800
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 1: after four games or like he said, four though, but

801
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 1: that would be lucky on the Dallas game. But I

802
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 1: think that they should be and if they're not, that

803
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 1: change may come sooner than Giants fans may some of

804
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: us may not want, but some of us be looking

805
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,720
Speaker 1: forward to. I think the change would come that despite

806
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 1: how you like playing, even if the team is playing well,

807
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,800
Speaker 1: I've bad on defense and that's the reasons for the loss.

808
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 1: I think the change would come well. I think if

809
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 1: you watch the preseason so far, just look at the

810
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 1: points scored in both games. The offense seems to be

811
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: putting up a lot of points. Regards who the quarterback is,

812
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 1: running back or whatever the scenario, they're putting up more

813
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 1: and more points. I think that's what the hope and

814
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 1: goal is going forward, that they're going to be a

815
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 1: thirty plus point team for like the season, and the

816
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 1: defense is it's gonna be easier the defense if they're

817
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,359
Speaker 1: scoring at many points. In the past, they've we went

818
00:37:55,480 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: for I don't know, six thirty games without school. That

819
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 1: was a long stretch for a long stretch, so that

820
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,320
Speaker 1: it changes a lot of stuff. When if you're throwing

821
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 1: the ball and you're forcing them to throw the ball,

822
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden is a different game. Your

823
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 1: guys can get pass rush, they're gonna start getting to

824
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 1: the quarterback if they can get a two or three touchdown.

825
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: Leado you know, all of a sudden, they're just running

826
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:17,919
Speaker 1: the ball and grinding it out. Then it just beats

827
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 1: your guys up. Well. And the other the other thing

828
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,839
Speaker 1: Rick to point out is, and I know you're playing

829
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 1: out the pathetical one in three. Nobody's mathematically eliminated from

830
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 1: the divisional race at one of three. So I think,

831
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: once again, in fairness, I think you really getting ahead

832
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:33,919
Speaker 1: of yourself. You know, I think you've got to really

833
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 1: get to a point in my opinion, and it's my

834
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 1: personal belief where you know there's very limited chance you're

835
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 1: gonna get to the division title, and also that somebody's

836
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 1: running away with the wild card race too. I mean,

837
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: the Giants they want to win football games. I mean,

838
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 1: as important as it is to see Daniel Jones' development,

839
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 1: they want to win this season. Daniel Jones is a

840
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 1: long term pick. It's not just to see what he

841
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,399
Speaker 1: could do in two thousand nineteen. So if they can

842
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 1: be competitive with Eli Manning and they're still in the

843
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,399
Speaker 1: and I just don't see a change coming as quick

844
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: as you went to Okay, okay, all right, let me

845
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: close with this because Howard just brought that up and

846
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 1: and I've said this before the last three or four

847
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 1: years in preseason, every game the Giants, pretty much every game,

848
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 1: they'd go out and look pretty crappy. They couldn't generate points,

849
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 1: especially the first the first, first and second quarter. This

850
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,720
Speaker 1: year has been totally different. They're out there, they're scoring

851
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 1: points there, they look uh, they look so much better,

852
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 1: and I just think that it's got to be a

853
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 1: big positive for the team going forward. So I'm really

854
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 1: looking forward to enjoy your Guys show and also when

855
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 1: you could have Madeline on to help you out. I'm

856
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 1: start for Fans Club down here in Tampa, and I

857
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 1: think she might add a little bright side to the

858
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 1: to the show as well. I'm not cute. What's apparently

859
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 1: you don't light up? Wait to talk to Madlon is over.

860
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 1: In terms of the points that are being put up

861
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 1: in the preseason, as you mentioned, I mean, it's certainly encouraging,

862
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 1: but once again, you know, when you're going up against

863
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 1: Khalil Mack and Leonard Floyd. I'm just saying that the

864
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 1: guys are looking good, guys are getting open, and it's

865
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 1: not you know, the one thing I was kind of

866
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 1: concerned about, like, you know, no no offense to all

867
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:16,800
Speaker 1: the receivers, like who's gonna take the top off the defense.

868
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 1: Who's gonna cause that double team or or almost triple

869
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 1: team when the guy releases off the ball, You've gotta

870
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 1: you gotta cover right now, they're just basically scheming it.

871
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 1: The Giants receiver corps is bigger than New England's, but

872
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 1: they have a better tight end right now than they

873
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 1: do in New England at the Giant. But that's kind

874
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 1: of where we are, Like we don't have like the

875
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,800
Speaker 1: the we don't have the crazy receiver that that could

876
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:44,720
Speaker 1: take the top off the defense. You've gotta be terrified,

877
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: like a like a vertical threat, like a j Green

878
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:51,720
Speaker 1: down in like that dude like runs down the field,

879
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 1: like you gotta back up. Julio Jones, l O'Dell Hopkins,

880
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: all these guys just ok you gotta like you gotta

881
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 1: figure out how they're how we're going to cover these guys.

882
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,879
Speaker 1: It's not always slant. Sometimes they streak down the field.

883
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 1: You see the entire defense turned to try to Okay, well,

884
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 1: we can't let him catch the ball, and that recreates

885
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:11,800
Speaker 1: so much more room for the running game and whatever

886
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 1: else is happening. There's not you can't really blitz as

887
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 1: much because if you blitz, if that guy gets the

888
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 1: hot ball, then it's over or another guy that can

889
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 1: get the ball and take it all the way. I

890
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 1: was a little concerned with all that. Now I'm watching

891
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 1: them like, well, maybe that's not even a concern because

892
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: these guys are open. They're not kind open, they're open open.

893
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 1: And I saw the Bears went all pressed across the

894
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 1: across the line. Somebody was open. The Bears dropped one

895
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 1: guy off on the backside. Somebody's open that they try

896
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,760
Speaker 1: to play cover to somebody's open. It's just they couldn't

897
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 1: figure out enough regards to who the quarterback was. They

898
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: couldn't figure out enough or they couldn't get enough guys

899
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:47,720
Speaker 1: in the right position to get you know, the close

900
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 1: off of those spaces. I think that is the biggest

901
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 1: encouragement that I've seen watching the games. And if you've

902
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 1: got that kind of thing, whether it's tight, tight spaces,

903
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 1: I saw a few long balls thrown. If you've got

904
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 1: those kind of successful plays in preseason, the first few games,

905
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 1: they're gonna be like, Okay, we gotta figure out how

906
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 1: to get to the quarterback. If we don't they're gonna

907
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: take us apart. And Cody Laimer, by the way, has

908
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 1: shown some ability to your point to get the separation

909
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 1: and get down the sideline, which is you know, to

910
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 1: me a bright spot because we didn't get it to

911
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 1: see enough of that how because he was signline for

912
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 1: the majority of last seas. Here's a big return guy too,

913
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 1: so he's got big special He was a huge speed guy.

914
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 1: If you got the ball, he's gone. So getting him

915
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 1: in a situation where he gets to expose another player

916
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: because you know they're they're looking at me like, oh man,

917
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 1: this is a returner. I can't let him get off

918
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,720
Speaker 1: the ball. He's gone. If he gets his first initial

919
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:39,919
Speaker 1: steps and moves to get past the guy, it's gonna

920
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 1: be a very instant season. Let's add back to the

921
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 1: phone lines is removed along here on Big Blue Kickoff

922
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 1: Live presented by Core's Light. Antonio is in Manhattan. Antonio,

923
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 1: Welcome to Big Blue Kickoff Live. What do you have

924
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,919
Speaker 1: for us? Hey Lanty, what how are you guys doing today?

925
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 1: Very very good? I gotta I got three statements to make.

926
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:59,760
Speaker 1: One of the question um versus you know it's about

927
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 1: a quarter um. I don't know what's the Giants obsession

928
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 1: with having this guy be a three down starter. I

929
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 1: don't think he's a three down starter. I think that

930
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 1: we should just keep him as a third down specialist

931
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: just because when I see the run heading towards his direction,

932
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:19,320
Speaker 1: they're gonna just mull him over or he can't really

933
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 1: contain the outside when they're blocking him in. I feel

934
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 1: like he's just gonna get gobbled up by all these

935
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 1: by the tackles, even sometimes even by big tight ends,

936
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 1: and I just feel like this guy should just be

937
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 1: left for third down pass rush only. Horway, I just

938
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 1: want to get your opinion on that. I think he's

939
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 1: a tall, long, athletic kid. I think he's just missing

940
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 1: one technique one unless he gets that, and it's gonna

941
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 1: be a positioning question, and one of mean by positioning

942
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 1: as a three four outside outside linebacker, you have to

943
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 1: hold hold the edge or be on the edge of

944
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: the guy. If you squeeze down and they can hook you,

945
00:43:58,080 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 1: then that means that someone is supposed to play the

946
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 1: it for you. So it's more of a technique that

947
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 1: we're watching. We're watching him wondering if he's being blown out,

948
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 1: so he's being done whatever. If you see him get

949
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:10,839
Speaker 1: collapsed down the side, but you see the corner run

950
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 1: around the edgeility, that's just his responsibility. Like the big things.

951
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,359
Speaker 1: If he's getting beat one on one a lot, over

952
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 1: and over, that's when you're gonna have the thing. But

953
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 1: he can't really get beat if it's just a quote

954
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 1: unquote a tackle over there, because he'll be standing out there.

955
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 1: The tackle may be able to he'll have to run

956
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 1: to the sideline, but the player have to turn back

957
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 1: inside and the big guys there, So sometimes he just

958
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: so is it alignment where he's not laying up like

959
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:41,320
Speaker 1: outside shoulder up the tackle. It's it's a scheme. Whatever

960
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 1: the schea mean is that there. They never scheme a

961
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 1: guy into a position where he's gonna get blocked. Yeah,

962
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 1: And it's just scheme. So you've got to make sure

963
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 1: that everybody, if he steps down the guy is supposed

964
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 1: to take contained has to be there right at right

965
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 1: at the moment of containing. I saw in some games

966
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 1: early on that you know there look can at each

967
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 1: other afterwards because they're like, okay, he stepped inside. What

968
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 1: it was a contained guy? So they're on the sideline

969
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:07,919
Speaker 1: explaining it, like what I thought it was. You can't

970
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 1: say I thought it was. You have to know what

971
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 1: to do and why you're doing it. And if he

972
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,280
Speaker 1: gets if he gets a call from you to step

973
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 1: down the side of you're not there, and then you

974
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 1: can't even say you didn't tell him that because that's

975
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 1: just a technique. But he's not, he's not the heaviest guy.

976
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:27,359
Speaker 1: That's that's fair. That's fair to say. Yeah. One another

977
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 1: thing too, is one good thing about this defensive overall,

978
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 1: it's just it's it's on just watching the game, Uh,

979
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 1: it looks so much faster than last year, and I

980
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:38,839
Speaker 1: think that's a big difference with this year. I think

981
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 1: that's going to bring more success. However, just one thing

982
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 1: that I would love to see is that based so

983
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 1: with the Giants when they go on their nickel formation,

984
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 1: they they had four down linemen. Even Lorenzo Carter is

985
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 1: down with his hands sometimes on on the ground, and

986
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 1: I just don't understand that, Like that's not him. He's

987
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 1: a stand up guy. And I just want to know

988
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,839
Speaker 1: why don't the Giants go like three, three, five when

989
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 1: it comes to nickel. Why do they just stick to

990
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 1: this like four like a traditional kind of like four

991
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 1: three with Well, they don't have three linebackers on the

992
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 1: field at that time. I understand that, but I don't know,

993
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 1: I just feel like when they're in the nickel, they

994
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 1: just looked like they're they're they're under they're they're not

995
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 1: outmatched up correctly. I don't know. I just feel like

996
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:20,919
Speaker 1: they're too small for criminally right now how they're landing

997
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 1: up in the nickel. And that's pretty much just what

998
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:23,839
Speaker 1: I kind of want to get to both of you guys,

999
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,240
Speaker 1: and uh, thank you so much for having my call. Alright,

1000
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 1: So basically what he's asking is like, when when the

1001
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,879
Speaker 1: Giants go to the X, when the extra receiver comes

1002
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 1: onto the field, why are they changing personnel? Uh, they

1003
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 1: go for three to try to create this scenario. The

1004
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 1: three could be three three safeties or something that that

1005
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 1: that poses that's a week's side back or in the case,

1006
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 1: you just have to understand why they're doing it. You

1007
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 1: want speed to cover speed. You don't want guys out

1008
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 1: there that can't turn their helps and get to a position.

1009
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:56,360
Speaker 1: You don't want guys out there they are going to

1010
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 1: be shook right off the line of scrimmage and being

1011
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:02,280
Speaker 1: a trail position, and you hope that these four down guys,

1012
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:04,360
Speaker 1: you know, if you put them in there and you

1013
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 1: give them some give them some edge and some room

1014
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 1: to work. Because when you have four down guys, they're

1015
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:11,320
Speaker 1: not standing side by side and they're they're one guys

1016
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 1: on the edge of the tackle, the other guys on

1017
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 1: the edge of the tackle. The two d tackles are

1018
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 1: spreads to play the gap, and then the guards in

1019
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 1: the center have to watch and see where the russia

1020
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 1: where the other rushers coming from. So that's what that's

1021
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:25,799
Speaker 1: where you get the opportunity to run twists on the

1022
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 1: outside the et and the t twisting outside the end

1023
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,760
Speaker 1: goes in, tackle goes around, the tackle you know, goes

1024
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 1: out and the end comes around either way, and it

1025
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 1: sounds like the same play, but it actually not depends

1026
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 1: on who goes first either way. And then you've got

1027
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:41,840
Speaker 1: room to make room to make these plays and stuff.

1028
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 1: That's why I saw four three. That's why they're spread out.

1029
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 1: That's why they're doing it that way. And you've got

1030
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 1: cover guys behind the support so that okay, if not

1031
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 1: they're not there. If they're not there, in the second step,

1032
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 1: here they come, you know there there they got enough

1033
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 1: guys to slow it down and make sure that the

1034
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 1: balls not getting thrown to them. I think it's also

1035
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 1: important to note that James Betcher is not showing everything

1036
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 1: that he's going to be using during the regular season too.

1037
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 1: So when you look at who's in on the Nickel defense,

1038
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 1: that's not to say that they're not going to utilize

1039
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 1: these looks Howard during the regular season, but I also

1040
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 1: think he is holding back a little bit because he

1041
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:17,320
Speaker 1: doesn't want to put everything on film, knowing, by the way,

1042
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:20,399
Speaker 1: the first two preseason games are against opponents that they're

1043
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 1: going to see later on in the season. So this

1044
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 1: my response is it's great to analyze the preseason, but

1045
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I think sometimes it's

1046
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:31,439
Speaker 1: a little overkill and it's a little over analysis where

1047
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 1: you're looking for hints and you're looking for tidbits and

1048
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 1: it may not mean much of anything in the big

1049
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 1: picture of things. I don't think that you know that

1050
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 1: that media. I don't think the fans. I don't think

1051
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 1: that anyone has the ability to watch a preseason game

1052
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 1: and understand what you're looking for when you're watching it.

1053
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 1: I don't think that that that you know other coaches

1054
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:53,840
Speaker 1: that there are scouts in the stands at practices. There

1055
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:57,280
Speaker 1: are scouts in the stands at these preseasons. Every scouts

1056
00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 1: and stands during games trying to pick up on and

1057
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 1: see everything they can see. So it's not this secretive

1058
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 1: as we would like to think. And yes they do

1059
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 1: send scouts around to watch practices. Whether people like to

1060
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:13,359
Speaker 1: say that they will do that or not, if they

1061
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,319
Speaker 1: cheating or not, you can call it whatever it is.

1062
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:19,399
Speaker 1: Everybody does it. I'm assuming maybe I'm just totally wrong

1063
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,359
Speaker 1: and just missed the boat on this, but you just

1064
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:23,879
Speaker 1: do it. So when you're playing in the game, you're

1065
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 1: hoping that it's not just he's not showing everything. You

1066
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 1: gotta get that. That's great too, But that's not true.

1067
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 1: What it is that he's expecting these four guys to

1068
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 1: get pressure. He's expecting he wants to see how far

1069
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 1: they've come. He wants to see what he has to

1070
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 1: do just with the four and makeup to see how

1071
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,799
Speaker 1: it can get pressure. You saw like the first part

1072
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 1: of the game, the four guys, they didn't quite get

1073
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 1: there quarterback move around. Second, the second part of the game,

1074
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 1: when guys are winning battles, that that the center gets crazy,

1075
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 1: has a bad snap, like all everything starts to go right,

1076
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 1: and then he goes to the sideline, and the guys

1077
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 1: on the sideline like, oh, like, we gotta we gotta

1078
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 1: pick it up a little bit more. And you're gonna

1079
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 1: see more and more of them trying to get there

1080
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:11,879
Speaker 1: and and and that intensity is going to go up

1081
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 1: and they gotta figure some things out. Like I was

1082
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:17,279
Speaker 1: telling somebody that we were walking Victor Cruz were and

1083
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 1: I was something name dropping, we're out of practice. We

1084
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 1: were talking about that. We were watching the one on

1085
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 1: ones and I was explain the victors and said, you

1086
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 1: know about the pass rusher, what what makes it good

1087
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 1: or what makes it bad? He goes He's like yeah.

1088
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, so let's talk about it. So

1089
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:35,440
Speaker 1: we're watching it. We're talking about attacking the outside elbow

1090
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 1: and what it does to the whe the the the

1091
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,319
Speaker 1: offensive lineman because his hands inside he can't reach out

1092
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 1: to get you. All of a sudden, you know, you

1093
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 1: see guys slapping at their hands, but they're popping their

1094
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 1: hands to pop you off the ball. So when they extend,

1095
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 1: if you slap their elbow and they miss, you're You're good.

1096
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 1: You're golden. I said, we saw two or three guys

1097
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:55,799
Speaker 1: get by guys in that drill. He goes like that's

1098
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 1: really it goes wow. So I thought they were just

1099
00:50:57,920 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 1: slapping their hands and know that the guys that are

1100
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:05,320
Speaker 1: good slap, they slapped the la So it's pretty pretty funny.

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00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 1: Hours are watching guys understand how to you know they

1102
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:10,319
Speaker 1: have the the one arm pressed. You never really see

1103
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 1: that in practice. Saw two guys doing to practice to day,

1104
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 1: Like I said, okay, so those guys are they're they're

1105
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:18,839
Speaker 1: positioning and getting ready to get after the quarterback. Because

1106
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 1: once you get a guy extended in his bodies up

1107
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:24,359
Speaker 1: in the air, you're you're in control. You're like driving

1108
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:26,799
Speaker 1: him like a car and you're and they're already starting

1109
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 1: on a two point stands, which to me, to this

1110
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 1: very day, I don't understand how that works because if

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00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 1: it was me, I'm like, you would never be able

1112
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 1: to block me if you start out a two point stands,

1113
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:39,240
Speaker 1: I just run over step when you go into the quarterback.

1114
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 1: But the the Reggie White would have eaten dudes in

1115
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:44,720
Speaker 1: a two point stands. So it's just it's just different.

1116
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 1: And I think because of Reggie White's and the Charles

1117
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 1: Haley's and guys like then Bruce Smith. They're like, Okay,

1118
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 1: if I was already up, then I would be a

1119
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 1: better player. So most teams don't. They never put their

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00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 1: hand in the dirt anymore. So it's just interesting to

1121
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 1: see and watching the new concepts and what. You know,

1122
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:04,319
Speaker 1: what we believe the game has evolved into. Like the

1123
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 1: old running shoot. It's now like four whiles where everybody

1124
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 1: runs well because of the past heavy attack that was

1125
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 1: seeing in the National Football League. And you know, you're

1126
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 1: bringing up guys with putting their hands in the dirt,

1127
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 1: and the caller was bringing up Lorenzo Carter. You the

1128
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 1: Giants didn't draft Lorenzo Carter so he could be a

1129
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 1: third down specialist, you know. So their goal is not, yeah,

1130
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 1: let's just bring Lorenzo in and put him on third down.

1131
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 1: They want him to get to the point where he's

1132
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 1: comfortable being moved around so that he can be on

1133
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 1: the field on all three downs. Well, he's going to

1134
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 1: grow to like it. Dis inevitable, he'll grow. This is

1135
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 1: the second year in the league, right, so it's like, okay,

1136
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:40,800
Speaker 1: Lorenzo cars in the league. He's gotten a little bit bigger.

1137
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:44,399
Speaker 1: Next year he'll be ten to fifteen pounds heavier probably. Uh.

1138
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:47,360
Speaker 1: And again it depends on I was talking to somebody

1139
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 1: else about this. I won't keep name John, but I

1140
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:51,839
Speaker 1: was talking about this, like it's it depends on, like

1141
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:54,760
Speaker 1: what what kind of workouts you're doing. Are you flipping tires,

1142
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:59,320
Speaker 1: doing the ropes, taking the tires off the tractors to

1143
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 1: let's people specifics, but are you lifting? Lifting like the

1144
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 1: old grinding out chalk on their hands lifting? It seems

1145
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 1: old school, it seems silly, But those are the things

1146
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:10,800
Speaker 1: that you kind of need to do to gain weight.

1147
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 1: That's the kind of stuff the flipping tires and all

1148
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:15,919
Speaker 1: that stuff that's more of a cardio even though you're

1149
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:19,359
Speaker 1: using all your muscles. That's a big cardio workout. When

1150
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 1: you really need to push weight, you need to put

1151
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:24,320
Speaker 1: weight on the bar to lift it to get stronger.

1152
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:25,799
Speaker 1: You need to put a lot of weight on the

1153
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,879
Speaker 1: bar to lift and get stronger. It's not a it's

1154
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 1: not this fun. This is great, all right, because that's

1155
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:37,400
Speaker 1: all but that's but that's all conditioning, and it's it's

1156
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 1: like I used to take my kids to the gym

1157
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:40,880
Speaker 1: with me and they were like, okay, what we're gonna do?

1158
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 1: They with the real lift weights and the like why

1159
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:44,360
Speaker 1: are we standing from the dumbell rack? And I'm like, oh,

1160
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 1: that's gonna be okay. After it, they're like, we got

1161
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 1: the ugly face on, Like I thought we were lifting,

1162
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 1: like we are lifting like there's a five pound ways.

1163
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 1: It's like are you tired? Like yeah, It's like okay,

1164
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:58,320
Speaker 1: then we're lifting like. People are coming up with trainers

1165
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 1: are like, hey, so what's the sequence again? Something like Dad,

1166
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 1: we can't go Jim Joe standoff or you're embarrassing up.

1167
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 1: I'm I'm lifting with you. They're like, you're lifting like

1168
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 1: two or three times, you like the guy off of

1169
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 1: off of Beach Body. All right, let's go one too. Now,

1170
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 1: let's get it. You still got come on, move that on.

1171
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:22,320
Speaker 1: He goes, that's not right, but I got my lifting

1172
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 1: and he goes, you lifted twice. It was having fun

1173
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:29,360
Speaker 1: with him, man, you gotta have fun. Yes, absolutely, all right.

1174
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 1: Let's get to a few tweets here before we wrap

1175
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 1: up shop. And here's one which is directly towards your

1176
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:36,879
Speaker 1: playing days. So I'm sure you're gonna like this one

1177
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:41,360
Speaker 1: from at Night Moves and Jay at Night Moves. What

1178
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 1: kind of playing was that doing? Playoff? Playoff? That's terrible?

1179
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 1: So all right, well let's see if the question is

1180
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 1: better than than the twitterheads, who were a couple of

1181
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:55,879
Speaker 1: guys you had to block who you knew, you had

1182
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 1: to really strap it up when you faced him. Everybody

1183
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 1: like talking about would like almost everybody a block is

1184
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:13,760
Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame. So yeah, everybody, everybody was goodff.

1185
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 1: There was no place like I like quite literally, and

1186
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 1: I've said this before the show, and this is no

1187
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 1: nothing mean to anybody out there if you hear this

1188
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:25,720
Speaker 1: or if it gets back to you. There were games

1189
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 1: where we play against guy and the the Reggie White

1190
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 1: wouldn't be in, or the Bruce Smith wouldn't be in,

1191
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:33,399
Speaker 1: or whoever wouldn't be in, and some guy would come

1192
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 1: in that you didn't know, and you're like, oh, dude,

1193
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 1: I got the clerk. Who's the clerk? The guy was

1194
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 1: bagging groceries, he's in trouble. I'm about to have some

1195
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 1: fun with this, dude. I would talk to guys and

1196
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 1: the like have fun, like I'm like, hey, look, man,

1197
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 1: don't take this personal, Like what just don't take this like, dude,

1198
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 1: you just cut me, and like I told you, don't

1199
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:56,400
Speaker 1: take it personally. I have you just have fun with guys,

1200
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:57,920
Speaker 1: but if you had to play against like guys like

1201
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:00,400
Speaker 1: Reggie White or Bruce Mills, do you want to have

1202
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 1: it too much fun? Charles Hailey Kevin Green that that

1203
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 1: was no fun. That was like you there, Okay, I

1204
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 1: don't want him to embarrass me on TV. I don't

1205
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 1: want to get I don't get the phone call from

1206
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 1: my dad. Dude, that was embarrassing. At least take your

1207
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:15,880
Speaker 1: name off the back of your jersey, like you know,

1208
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 1: you don't want that. It was embarrassing. Like some guys

1209
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:22,840
Speaker 1: that the Charles Haley one time block, he went around

1210
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:24,959
Speaker 1: four of us, he pushed us all in a pile

1211
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 1: and sacked the quarterback. I'm like, that ain't right. I'm

1212
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:33,279
Speaker 1: sure the offensive Phil Room had a coach like the

1213
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:36,280
Speaker 1: coach out. The coach there was like, well, he's probably

1214
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:39,879
Speaker 1: going to the Hall of Fame. So he didn't even

1215
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 1: bother to make There is no guy, there is no observation.

1216
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:46,400
Speaker 1: There's we could do some some guys, just some guys

1217
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:51,319
Speaker 1: just better. Can you know that? All right, here's one

1218
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:54,239
Speaker 1: more before we wrap up at Chamberlain twenty one R.

1219
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 1: Does it seem like this team this is they're rooting

1220
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 1: for each other more than in the past as few years.

1221
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:02,759
Speaker 1: So I guess what he's referring to is like se

1222
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 1: Kwan Barkley on the sideline during preseason games, we see

1223
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:08,840
Speaker 1: him very animated. I don't know if that's necessarily that

1224
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:11,880
Speaker 1: much different, Howard, than what we see perhaps at this

1225
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 1: time every single year with the starters. I think that

1226
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:18,440
Speaker 1: that a year in, they've learned a lot more and

1227
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 1: they have more expectations for each other. I think that's

1228
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 1: what you're seeing. And when you're saying rooting and everything,

1229
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 1: you see like guys know what some like even offensive

1230
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 1: guys know what. The defensive guys are supposed to be

1231
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 1: where they're supposed to be in some cases because their

1232
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 1: practices against them early on and they're learning each other's schemes.

1233
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 1: So now when they see something happen, they're excited because, Hey,

1234
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 1: that that's I told you he was going to be there.

1235
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 1: You know that's great. So even guys will walking by, guys,

1236
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 1: watch out for the tackle. He does this a lot.

1237
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 1: They're they're talking, they're communicating with each other, so they

1238
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 1: actually know where the other guy is supposed to be

1239
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 1: and what's going on. So when when something happens, they're

1240
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 1: extraordinarily excited about it because, like they know they're supposed

1241
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 1: to happen. And when you don't get it done, you

1242
00:57:57,560 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 1: see guys rally to guys, hey, come here, let's talk.

1243
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 1: May know that, like you'll see a circle of defensive guys.

1244
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 1: You might see a white shirt popping there and paddagal

1245
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:06,920
Speaker 1: on the back there. All right, you know you did

1246
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 1: that in practice. You got me, you can get him,

1247
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 1: So that that's what you're seeing more because guys understand

1248
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 1: where they're supposed to be. A year into the system,

1249
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 1: they're starting to get better, getting more comfortable with it,

1250
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 1: and they can actually root for and and critique each

1251
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 1: other while they're doing it. And especially in the secondary

1252
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 1: I think that's noticeable. Howard you brought up generous Jenkins.

1253
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 1: Michael Thomas is also very good at that, you know,

1254
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:29,919
Speaker 1: bringing over some of the young guys and making adjustments

1255
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 1: for them. For example, in the Jets game, Michael Thomas

1256
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:35,440
Speaker 1: walked over to Corey Ballantine and you can see this

1257
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 1: on the Sites and Sounds feature on Giants dot Com

1258
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 1: and he tells him, Hey, Davis Webb, who's in now,

1259
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 1: was on our team last year. He's gonna try to

1260
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 1: air it out. He's not scared. He's gonna try to

1261
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 1: test you be ready for an interception, and then what happens,

1262
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 1: Ballantine gets an interception. So little subtle comments like that

1263
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 1: can go a long way to helping it, can You

1264
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 1: just got to know that, like it's beyond he's gonna

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Speaker 1: air it out. You can tell guys where when they

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Speaker 1: see a player up as a okay, pay attentions he

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Speaker 1: should be doing this, Like what do you means he

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Speaker 1: should be doing this? Is like you're pressed on the outside.

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Speaker 1: There's no one behind you. He's not gonna come inside

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Speaker 1: because he's looking at the linebacker. He knows the linebacker

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Speaker 1: stepping out. He's definitely gonna go up and try to

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Speaker 1: run the fade. Like okay, so now you know, don't

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Speaker 1: if you're gonna never run the fade, just be ready

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Speaker 1: to go for the run. He's gonna make He's gonna

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Speaker 1: look like he's not gonna run the fade. It's not

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Speaker 1: like he's gonna run out or whatever. He's still gonna

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Speaker 1: run the fade. Just ready, just be ready to play

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Speaker 1: the faith, don't whatever. And if you're like because guys

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Speaker 1: are like they like to jump the out, so get

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Speaker 1: the intersteps and take it back, sau. No matter what

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Speaker 1: he does, you know he might be he's running. So

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00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:42,440
Speaker 1: they can tell guys that heavy inside. Make sure when

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00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:44,440
Speaker 1: a guy's coming in where the safety is playing. They

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00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 1: know that now, like telling the safety. Okay, you know

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Speaker 1: what they're going to do, right, Like, okay, the titan

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00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 1: is gonna start up and you'll get a flash across

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Speaker 1: your face because they're gonna be it's not a pick.

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00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 1: They're just running across your face. You gotta get back

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Speaker 1: enough so you can get you can recover. If not,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna get picked off. But across her it's just

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Speaker 1: part of the game, and they get they're able to

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Speaker 1: talk to each other about and tell guys what to

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Speaker 1: look for. The coaches going over the defense. When the

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Speaker 1: coach gets done, the guys get up and they started

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Speaker 1: telling them the same thing and reinforcing what the coaches saying. Well,

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Speaker 1: that is going to wrap up the latest the dish

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Speaker 1: A big Blue Kickoff lives certainly appreciate all the tweets

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Speaker 1: all the phone calls. It was a great show because

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Speaker 1: Charlie and Portland Maine did give us a ring and

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Speaker 1: that is going to do it for us. Here on

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Speaker 1: the latest, Hey, I always have to get my singers

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Speaker 1: in Howard. I'm the mean guy today. You're coming off

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Speaker 1: as the nice guy for Howard cross up like sp

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Speaker 1: enjoyed the rest. Never point that out. Well, I couldn't

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Speaker 1: have a go