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Speaker 2: One down, a bunch more to go. Welcome in. It

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Speaker 2: is a Thursday. A happy Thursday to you, Monty, oh,

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Speaker 2: thank you.

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Speaker 3: And a happy birthday Eve to you. Yes, it is

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Speaker 3: my birthday.

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Speaker 2: Right now in Sydney. Good it is good, ay, good day.

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Speaker 2: I'm calling it the uh the farewell to forty eight.

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Speaker 2: What I'm saying, Wow, here's the worst thing. Here's the

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Speaker 2: worst thing as a Seahawks fan entering the weekend. As

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Speaker 2: of tomorrow, Monty, I will actually be a forty nine er.

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Speaker 2: I will actually be.

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Speaker 3: Terrible weekend. This to happen.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, think about that, atrocious.

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Speaker 3: Ah, that's rude.

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Speaker 2: The countdown is on, not to my birthday, but to

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Speaker 2: NFL had NFL teams coming together as one as we

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Speaker 2: have one less vacancy in the NFL as we did

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Speaker 2: at this time a day ago. Welcome in, hit Mancy

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Speaker 2: up at Monte Belanos. You can find me at Dan

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Speaker 2: Byer on Fox. Jason Stewart's here, Iowa Sam is here,

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Speaker 2: Chris burfettis here. John Harbaugh is not here because he

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Speaker 2: is the new head coach of the New York Giants.

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Speaker 2: Word broke late last night, and we'll get to the

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Speaker 2: insider portion of this, but word broke last night that

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Speaker 2: the Giants and Harball were finalizing a deal. We knew

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Speaker 2: that he was meeting with Giants brass yesterday in New

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Speaker 2: Jersey at Giants headquarters, and ultimately the first domino falls

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Speaker 2: as John Harbaugh is out of work for about a

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Speaker 2: week and has now landed on his feet in the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the story quickly changed.

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Speaker 4: He was there all day, they were trying to woo him,

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Speaker 4: and then the reports of he is officially left back

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Speaker 4: to go home on the private jet.

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Speaker 3: This was around seven thirty Eastern and then the next.

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Speaker 4: Report he is supposed to meet with the Titans on Thursday,

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Speaker 4: that is his next scheduled appointment. Then not long after that,

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Speaker 4: it was oh no, no, no, they're already actually finalizing

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Speaker 4: a deal. I mean, if you really want we've talked

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Speaker 4: about this. There is no greater feeling than wanting to

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Speaker 4: be wanted. Feeling wanted. Yeah, and if you really if

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Speaker 4: the Giants wanted him, that bad good for them.

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Speaker 3: You're not gonna go talk to nobody else. You are

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Speaker 3: not going anywhere else.

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Speaker 2: Correct, And there is no worse feeling than being not

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Speaker 2: oneted right that there is. It is a huge, huge

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Speaker 2: polar opposite. And John Harbaugh was wanted by a lot

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Speaker 2: of teams. He had the right to be picky after

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Speaker 2: his eighteen years with the Baltimore Ravens. Even told Jay

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Speaker 2: Glazer over the weekend, I'm gonna speak with three, three

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Speaker 2: or four teams. It was interesting to try to figure

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Speaker 2: to Moncy, he didn't even get to three or four.

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Speaker 2: He got down to two, but he did interview with

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Speaker 2: the Atlanta Falcons ultimately chose to go to the New

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Speaker 2: York Giants. And I think when you look at how

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Speaker 2: the National Football League has looked over this coaching search, Monzi,

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Speaker 2: I think that the Giants job is thought to be

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Speaker 2: one of the better jobs available. Now I've seen people

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Speaker 2: us that the Tennessee job is good because of Cam War.

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Speaker 2: But I think if you really looked at it. The

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Speaker 2: two jobs that are the best jobs available were New

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Speaker 2: president of football Operations. He's going to be looking for

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Speaker 2: Moncey that John Harbaugh wanted is he wanted to say

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Speaker 2: Arthur Blank, I think, is an owner that many players, coaches,

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Speaker 2: absolutely would. The history with the Giants, the relationships that

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Speaker 2: they had. But the Giants already had a general manager.

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Speaker 2: They had it in Joe Shane. He was told that

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Speaker 2: Harball looked at the landscape of the NFL and said,

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Speaker 2: I know people think the NFC South stinks because teams

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Speaker 2: out of a job. I actually think John Harball looked

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Speaker 4: I don't know if I totally agree with you. I

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Speaker 4: see what you're saying.

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Speaker 2: You don't agree with me at all. Let's let's be real.

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Speaker 2: I know it's my birthday, Eve, but you don't have

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Speaker 3: Cut because I see what you're saying. And maybe maybe.

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Speaker 4: The truth here is that the gap between the NFC

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Speaker 4: maybe some people have thought. Because the NFC South, I mean,

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Speaker 4: if you look at the record, yeah, eight and nine

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Speaker 3: You don't think the Commanders are gonna get better next year?

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Speaker 2: Like for me, there's no one knew they were gonna

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Speaker 3: Correct, But I feel like they're gonna take a step up.

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Speaker 4: I can only imagine that the Eagles make a move

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Speaker 4: The Cowboys, I feel like, yes, I know they're low

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Speaker 4: I feel like there's no reason to think that the

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Speaker 4: NFC East is more gettable than the NFC South. I

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Speaker 4: think he picked the Giants for other reasons, one of

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Speaker 4: them being Jack's in Dart. He's going to Atlanta and

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Speaker 4: is where the question marks surrounding the quarterback. That is

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Speaker 4: not the ideal situation. There is hope and Jackson Dart,

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Speaker 4: you have Camp Scatterbow, you have a young team on

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Speaker 4: the Giants that should that should be able to compete. Also,

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Speaker 4: it's New York, not Atlanta. I've never been to Atlanta,

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Speaker 4: and as my headphones get stuck in my hair, I'm good, though, guys, I'm.

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Speaker 2: Good to our buy So you're and you're talking to

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Speaker 2: someone who, by the way, loves Atlanta. I absolutely love Atlanta.

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Speaker 2: It's one of my I would say, honestly, if I

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Speaker 2: it is. But I am an Atlanta fan. I love Atlanta.

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Speaker 3: I'm not even I've never been. I want to go,

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Speaker 4: I think there's a lot of things that I would

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Speaker 4: a lot of people have told me, have you been

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Speaker 3: I can never get out fast snuff out of Atlanta.

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Speaker 4: So there's New York and it's just kind of like

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Speaker 2: Atlanta, New York's gonna always win.

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Speaker 3: That's but not just New York with Jackson. They look fun.

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Speaker 4: They look like a breath of fresh air. All of

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Speaker 4: but what about your quarterback? And I feel like that's

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Speaker 4: I really don't think it's a division. Maybe maybe it's

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Speaker 2: Well, here's what I would push back and saying, who

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Speaker 2: wouldn't want to coach b John Robinson, right, who wouldn't

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Speaker 2: want to coach Drake London? Yes, Michael Penick has.

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Speaker 3: Just coached Derrick Henry, just coach Derek Henty.

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Speaker 4: Sure, So just like these gots Camp Scadboo and Elie Neighbors,

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Speaker 2: And so I don't think it's as clear cut that

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Speaker 2: So while you think it's a slam dunk with the

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Speaker 2: all of this the pressure cooker that is New York,

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Speaker 2: where if you did go to Atlanta, maybe a little softer,

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Speaker 2: Maybe that's something that Harball wanted to bring on. But

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Speaker 2: I thought it was I just thought it was I

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Speaker 2: don't think that the jobs are that different, and so

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Speaker 2: the I'm trying to find the real reason. Why was

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Speaker 2: it money? Was it this? Was it that? And I

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Speaker 2: actually think maybe it's the actual road to having success.

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Speaker 2: Jason Stewart, he's our executive producer, He was not as

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Speaker 2: enthralled with this hire as Maazi and i Aron looking

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Speaker 2: at the different angles. Would enthralled be the right way

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Speaker 5: Jason, Yeah, I don't know what the word is. I

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Speaker 2: For you guys. I think it was the easy higher.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's like you said, the easy hire.

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Speaker 3: That's not what you want to walk in.

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Speaker 2: And this probably is you know, easyps for both sides.

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Speaker 5: I haven't been I haven't stopped laughing internally about the

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Speaker 2: And this is what I think it would be. I

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Speaker 5: So now I can see the headlines, Iowa Sam racist

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Speaker 6: No, he's just you know when he when he sits

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Speaker 2: That's all my fet Iowa Sam would have the ride arm.

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Speaker 5: The good thing about those said coaching me is that

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Speaker 2: Would you play they might be giants? The week you

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Speaker 4: Can I be the person that makes sure you don't

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Speaker 3: Back they get back? Can I be that true?

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Speaker 2: You're hired? Gal.

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Speaker 6: Even if I made it like nine days on this job,

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Speaker 2: I'm not leaving empty handed. Kevin Burkhard I could say, well,

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Speaker 2: Manzi would be singing the it's cold outside part. That

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Speaker 2: find their footing and are driving against Philadelphia with an

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Speaker 2: opportunity to maybe win that game and pull out the upset.

438
00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:46,840
Speaker 2: They aren't able to do it, but they adapted at

439
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Speaker 2: that point. And the one thing that I think is

440
00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:55,880
Speaker 2: sometimes misunderstood when it comes to weather is we talk

441
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Speaker 2: about this a lot when it's a warm weather team

442
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Speaker 2: going to a cold weather spot. If this was Chicago

443
00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,159
Speaker 2: in Green Bay last week, like it was on a

444
00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:08,119
Speaker 2: Saturday night, it wasn't as much of a discussion because

445
00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:09,920
Speaker 2: the both teams are playing. It's how is the warm

446
00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,960
Speaker 2: weather team going to do in the cold weather? But

447
00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:17,359
Speaker 2: the cold weather isn't like the Bears are living in

448
00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,359
Speaker 2: it and always practicing in it. They're not going to

449
00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:24,680
Speaker 2: practice an eight degree weather outside all week long. Now,

450
00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,080
Speaker 2: maybe they'll do something outside, maybe they'll try to get

451
00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:31,080
Speaker 2: accustomed to it. That can happen, but it's people like,

452
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Speaker 2: how can you how can you live in this weather? Well,

453
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Speaker 2: it's not like you're outside for twelve hours of the

454
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Speaker 2: day when it's three degrees You usually inside. And so

455
00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,960
Speaker 2: while it's cold outside Mount Seat, nobody really loves the

456
00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:47,080
Speaker 2: cold unless you're going out ice fishing and snowmobiling. That's

457
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Speaker 2: how you end up embracing it. But nobody's like, man,

458
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Speaker 2: I'll love it when it's freezing cold. I can't fill

459
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Speaker 2: the ends of my fingertips, Like no, you work inside,

460
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Speaker 2: you go, you bundle your coat, you run to your car,

461
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Speaker 2: you turn on the heater. It's nice and warm in

462
00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:04,080
Speaker 2: there after a little while, and so it's not like

463
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Speaker 2: the Bears are fully equipped just because they're from the

464
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Speaker 2: team from Chicago. There's still some getting used to the cold.

465
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Speaker 2: So my point being is it's gonna be cold for

466
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Speaker 2: the Bears too, and it's not gonna be as easy

467
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Speaker 2: for them as it would be if temperatures were nicer.

468
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Speaker 4: Matt Collins loves the cold, first of all. He's probably

469
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Speaker 4: the only one Mac Collins always you know what I'm saying,

470
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Speaker 4: But you're right.

471
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Speaker 2: I thought she said Matt Collins, and I'm like, who

472
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Speaker 2: is Matt Collins?

473
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Speaker 4: Sorry, he loves the cold. I still think there's an

474
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Speaker 4: advantage to it. I mean, this past season, Sam Darnold

475
00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,919
Speaker 4: didn't play that well in Carolina, where I think it

476
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Speaker 4: was one of the coldest games that he experienced this season,

477
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Speaker 4: and it's gonna be even colder. I'm not saying it's

478
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Speaker 4: going to the end all be All is the weather,

479
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Speaker 4: and it's in the favor of Chicago, but I do

480
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Speaker 4: think it matters.

481
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Speaker 3: They live in Chicago. They experience it on a day

482
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Speaker 3: to day basis.

483
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Speaker 4: Here in La it's like you're not used to that

484
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Speaker 4: and just showing up and having to play. I think

485
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Speaker 4: that's it's gonna be tough, especially you know.

486
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Speaker 3: The Bears are hot. I know it's gonna be cool,

487
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Speaker 3: but they're hot right now.

488
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the Rams would rather be playing in

489
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Speaker 2: Los Angeles. I'm still at home in there.

490
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Speaker 4: I think they'd be playing in a lot of different areas,

491
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Speaker 4: not against a team who's hot and has just had

492
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Speaker 4: these wins where you're like, how did you do this?

493
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Speaker 2: But you think they'd rather be playing in Seattle? I

494
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Speaker 2: do you think they'd rather face the Seahawks in better

495
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Speaker 2: conditions than playing I don't think it's I don't think

496
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Speaker 2: it's crazy. I don't agree with you, but I just

497
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Speaker 2: am surprised that you would think that.

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Speaker 4: I just think that playing in Chicago and against the Bears,

499
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Speaker 4: there's a lot of unpredictability.

500
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Speaker 3: I feel like they play the seahawus.

501
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Speaker 4: I were familiar with this, where you were used to this,

502
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Speaker 4: you know what I'm I feel like it's just more

503
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Speaker 4: familiar territory.

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Speaker 2: I feel if the Bears were a defensive team, it

505
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Speaker 2: would be a little different. But the Bears that relied

506
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Speaker 2: just as much on their offense, if not more, than

507
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Speaker 2: the Rams do. So that's why I think it could

508
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Speaker 2: be a Bears factor. Jason Stewart, native Southern Californian.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I care more about out how sports are covered

510
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 5: in the actual sports themselves. So when I see a

511
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Speaker 5: headline on this at Pro Football Talk and I see

512
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:12,359
Speaker 5: that reporters are asking McVeigh this question, I always just

513
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,920
Speaker 5: kind of get disappointed in journalism because I guess it's

514
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,159
Speaker 5: one of those things where we just run out of

515
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 5: things ways to cover these teams. This is like the

516
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:26,440
Speaker 5: low hanging fruit of narratives warm weather team, cold weather team.

517
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Speaker 5: Let's ask the coach of the warm weather team how

518
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Speaker 5: it impacts our team. It just seems to be so

519
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Speaker 5: lazy to me, and the fact that like a Pro

520
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,959
Speaker 5: Football Talk even makes it a story to me is lazy.

521
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Speaker 5: And by the way, Sam, who loves his bump music,

522
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Speaker 5: came back with a great one right. It was a

523
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Speaker 5: was it maybe It's cold outside? That was canceled ten

524
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Speaker 5: years ago because it's kind of but it's cold outside.

525
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Speaker 5: Why don't you check for yourself maybe it's cold out? Yeah,

526
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Speaker 5: So I did my own thing as we as we

527
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Speaker 5: can bind the rams head coach on the Bump song,

528
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 5: and it's like mcvaby it's cold outside. Mcvaby, it's cold outside.

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Speaker 2: I love it. I want to bring Chris purfet In.

530
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Speaker 2: You cover the Lions for years. They're oh yeah, cold

531
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Speaker 2: weather city, but they play indoors.

532
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Speaker 5: Mm hmm.

533
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Speaker 2: Any history with the Lions having issues with the cold weather.

534
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Speaker 5: I do know they do have.

535
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Speaker 8: So it's funny you say that, but I know in

536
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Speaker 8: Allen Park, where their practice facilities are they are, they

537
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Speaker 8: do have an outdoor field and they pointedly make a

538
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Speaker 8: point to go out and practice in the cold. I

539
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Speaker 8: was actually trying to look up Stafford's record in cold

540
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Speaker 8: weather games before the Rams, because the one that always

541
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Speaker 8: comes up is the one and nine with the Rams.

542
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 8: I couldn't dig it up, but I mean that would

543
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Speaker 8: always still come up with him when he was in

544
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 8: Detroit was well, they play in a dome, and it's like, yeah,

545
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 8: but they can practice outside too.

546
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 2: Here's what also happens is like teams don't have great

547
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 2: records because they're not great teams.

548
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

549
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's the other part of that. Yeah, yeah,

550
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,399
Speaker 2: that's well, that's why you didn't win. You weren't that good.

551
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 2: Like it doesn't matter that the temperature was below whatever.

552
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 2: The Dolphins and just there struggles in history are the

553
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 2: reason why I think Jason Stewart it's a story. But

554
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:12,919
Speaker 2: like when you go and play a frigid game in

555
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 2: Kansas City and you don't know if Tua has the

556
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 2: arm strength to throw the football or throw the rock

557
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 2: because it literally is a rock for how cold it

558
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 2: is out there, that does become a storyline in the game.

559
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,159
Speaker 2: So I think it's legitimate in those situations. But sometimes

560
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 2: the team just isn't good enough. And I remember the

561
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 2: reason I brought up the Lions too, is we remember

562
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,440
Speaker 2: what happened in the final week of the year when

563
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 2: green Bay need to get into the playoffs a couple

564
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,159
Speaker 2: years ago. The Lions come in the lines win that

565
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 2: game in cold weather. It was cold there and they're

566
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Speaker 2: the indoor team, but they're kind of used to it. It

567
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:43,680
Speaker 2: didn't affect them.

568
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Speaker 8: Something that would always come up near the end of

569
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Speaker 8: the year.

570
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Speaker 5: Two.

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Speaker 8: First off, you're always playing that one cold weather game

572
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,160
Speaker 8: in green Bay against you know, Aaron Rodgers to your point,

573
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,879
Speaker 8: but also Stafford usually by the end of the year

574
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 8: with the Lions, because he didn't have a lot of

575
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 8: offensive line help, usually ended up banged up as well.

576
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 8: So suddenly you've got a cold weather game on top

577
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,880
Speaker 8: of the fact that his hand is mangled, or he's

578
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,120
Speaker 8: been smacked in the side, or that one year where

579
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 8: his back was broken, And so instead of talking about that,

580
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 8: we talk about how he does in a cold weather

581
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 8: game on the top of it.

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Speaker 2: And I'll just I'll wrap it up by saying this,

583
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 2: once you get maybe even through the first half of

584
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 2: the first quarter, you get through the first quarter, it's over.

585
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 2: Like you're just so focused on the game and you've

586
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 2: adapted to the conditions. It's not like in the fourth

587
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 2: quarter they're like, oh, he didn't catch the ball because

588
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,879
Speaker 2: he lives, you know, in Calabasas, Like, that's not the

589
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 2: reason why. It's not that he's from southern California, and

590
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 2: it's not that the Bears are making the plays because

591
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 2: they're in the cold weather. At first, it's a shock.

592
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 2: You try to get used to it. But once the

593
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 2: game goes on, and that's really in any conditions, you

594
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 2: end up altering. I don't think it becomes a factor

595
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 2: once the game, the game can rolls on.

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Speaker 4: What do you got, god, I say, then you go

597
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 4: to halftime, and then you go inside, and then you

598
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 4: warm up and you.

599
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 3: Have to go back out again. Let's start it all over.

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Speaker 8: That's those things warm coats on the side, you got

601
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Speaker 8: the the heat lamps and all the stuff too.

602
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 2: That's thinks when you go to the mall. But in

603
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 2: the game, like you're you can adjust. Sam.

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Speaker 6: Forgive me if you brought this up already, but I

605
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 6: mean our most recent example of this actually being a

606
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 6: thing anecdotally being like proven is Tua right.

607
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 2: Did you guys mention too?

608
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 6: I'm sorry, but yeah, you notice the difference that he

609
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 6: how he plays and how the Dolphins play in general.

610
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Speaker 2: I just said, that's the reason why I think that

611
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,239
Speaker 2: this is a story. I think the Rams last year

612
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 2: almost beating the Eagles would prove that they're able. They're

613
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 2: capable to what Sean McVay said. But I do think

614
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Speaker 2: like a situation like the Dolphins where my got you

615
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 2: yeah no, and they played that cold weather game against

616
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Speaker 2: the Chiefs, why it continues to be a story. She's

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Speaker 2: Wonty Belanos. I'm Dan Byer.

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Speaker 2: heading to the chill of Chicago. Is it gonna matter?

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Speaker 3: H how cold? Is it going to be single digits?

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Speaker 2: They're the team that play the Harlem Globetrotters and always lose.

656
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 2: That's right, that's the Washington Generals.

657
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 3: It was like, why do I know that name?

658
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 2: Wazi's sporting a Savannah Banana's T shirt? Tom, Do they

659
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 2: have other team gear with the Savannah Bananas?

660
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 4: What do you mean other teams like the team that

661
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 4: they play, Like, don't they proh like the firefighters?

662
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 3: Yeah?

663
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 4: I think there were firefighter things there when I went,

664
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 4: but I was obviously gonna get.

665
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 2: To Obviously, absolutely I get it, and that league is expanding.

666
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 3: Firefighters are just for Halloween.

667
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 2: Hit her up at Monte Bolagno's Find Me at dan

668
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 2: Byer on Fox Earlier this week in Arizona, a record

669
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 2: was shattered. I don't I want to make this clear.

670
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 2: I am not going to sit here for the next

671
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 2: fifteen to twenty minutes and criticize a seventeen year old

672
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 2: or eighteen year old athlete in high school. It's everything

673
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 2: that goes around what happened in this high school basketball

674
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 2: game in Arizona. Guard by the name of Adrian Stubbs,

675
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 2: playing for Phoenix Maryvale High School set an Arizona record

676
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 2: earlier this week by scoring one hundred points. Wow, in

677
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 2: a game. The Wilt Chamberlain of high school basketball scored

678
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 2: one hundred points in a game, and I was curious

679
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 2: to read the details. Seventy points in the first half,

680
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 2: he had thirty more in the third quarter, and Monty

681
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 2: didn't even play in the fourth quarter.

682
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 4: Wow.

683
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 2: So that's it's awesome stuff. And I don't want to

684
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 2: take away from the kid. Final score one oh nine

685
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 2: to twenty five.

686
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 3: And that's problem number one.

687
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 2: The record that was broken. Nicomannion, we know from Arizona

688
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 2: Wildcat Fame, had the record for Class six A scoring

689
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 2: fifty seven points in a game. The all time Arizona

690
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 2: record in all class basketball was seventy five that was

691
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 2: held since nineteen sixty six. Was when the seventy five

692
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 2: points were scored in a game, and on Tuesday, the

693
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 2: Nico Manyon record it was not only shattered, it was

694
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 2: obliterated in a game where a team won by eighty

695
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:03,239
Speaker 2: four points. And this is I'm not criticizing the kid, no,

696
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 2: I just am trying to find the the goodness for

697
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 2: everyone involved, because I just don't know if having a

698
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 2: kid score one hundred points in an eighty four point

699
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 2: blowout is good for anybody involved in that game.

700
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Speaker 4: I don't disagree with you, Dan. When I first heard

701
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 4: the headline, I was like, oh, let's look into this,

702
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 4: because records are meant to be broken. I feel that way.

703
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 4: I would love to break a record. But then when

704
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 4: you get into the details of how this happened, You're like,

705
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 4: why did you even play in the third quarter?

706
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 3: Why? What is the point of this?

707
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 4: You scored one hundred out of the one hundred and

708
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 4: nine points for your team. I was hoping it was

709
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 4: gonna be like a guy scored one hundred points in

710
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 4: a close game where they.

711
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 3: Won one thirty to one twenty five, and then I

712
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 3: would be like, oh my God, how awesome.

713
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 4: Yes, And instead I'm over here just like better, why

714
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 4: why did you play in the second half at all?

715
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 2: And this is where I like, I think the if

716
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 2: the teammates around him. By the way, if you just

717
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 2: do the math, no one on the winning team scored

718
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 2: in double digits. You had one guy in triple digits,

719
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 2: and then you had the rest of the team scoring

720
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 2: nine points. So there's not only that, there's a concerted

721
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 2: effort to have. By the way, it is not uncommon.

722
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 2: It is actually more of the norm where you have

723
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 2: one amazing player on a team and they get a

724
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 2: lot of the action, they score a lot of the points,

725
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 2: and the other players fill in their spots. Sometimes they

726
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 2: benefit from its scoring higher games, but it's usually not.

727
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 2: Someone scores one hundred and then the next highest score

728
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 2: scores six. But the players had to be in on

729
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 2: it as well. If no one is taking shots, and that,

730
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 2: to me then is coaching, because it's obviously coming from

731
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,760
Speaker 2: the coaches in saying let's get this guy the record.

732
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 2: They admit it that the the player, Adrian Stubbs, had

733
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 2: scored fifty six in a previous game this season or

734
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,320
Speaker 2: last season, so he was one shy of the record.

735
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 2: So getting the record of the Class six A in

736
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 2: Arizona was a goal of theirs, and it probably should

737
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 2: be to help their teammate get that goal. I just

738
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 2: you can't do it in a game where you win

739
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:25,839
Speaker 2: by eighty four points. And that's my problem with it

740
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 2: is somebody there has to be an adult, somebody has

741
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 2: to say, Okay, this is a little too much, because

742
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 2: it takes active thinking to say he's going to get

743
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 2: one hundred. Right, he didn't play in the fourth quarter.

744
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,280
Speaker 2: That was the decision that was made. Your point, Monty

745
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 2: has spot on. The decision was made to play in

746
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 2: the third quarter when he had already broken the record.

747
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 2: So now then you continue with what you're going for.

748
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 2: If you want to break the record and he came

749
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 2: close last time, and maybe there was a bad call

750
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 2: or whatever, that's fine, break the record. You don't have

751
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,879
Speaker 2: to obliterate the record and obliterate the other team while

752
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 2: doing so. I just this to me is I know

753
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,359
Speaker 2: high school hoops is a different game, but this, to

754
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 2: me is just not good at any level of play whatsoever.

755
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 4: Nobody reads that story and is impressed by the end

756
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 4: of it. People are just questioning Why did you do that?

757
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 4: How did you walk away from that patting yourself on

758
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 4: the back because there was no competition and you broke

759
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 4: the personal record that you were trying to get.

760
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,839
Speaker 3: Before the third quarter. So I agree with you, Dan.

761
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:35,359
Speaker 4: Where is the coaching in this, because again, this isn't impressive.

762
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 4: Nobody's gonna look at this and reach out to this

763
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 4: coach and have them on a show to discuss how

764
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 4: amazing this, you know, record break breaking was. It's not impressive.

765
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 4: I'm not impressed at all.

766
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 2: The teammates didn't score until the second half. He scored

767
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 2: all the points in the first half, and the Adrian

768
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 2: stubs the player. I don't want to. I just I

769
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 2: have a tough time being critical of it, teenager. I

770
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 2: just have I'm just very critical of this whole situation.

771
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 2: He admitted. He's like, my guy's just passed me the

772
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 2: ball all the time. The guy's got the steals, and

773
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 2: they would pass me the ball. But I don't know

774
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 2: why there isn't an adult anywhere that says, all right,

775
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 2: this is cool and all, but let's let's be respectful

776
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,399
Speaker 2: of what this is because it sure feels like it's

777
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:19,280
Speaker 2: gaming the system.

778
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:20,399
Speaker 3: Absolutely.

779
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 2: Jason Stewart, our executive producer.

780
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Speaker 5: So if we said this coach's name yet, Jeremy Smith,

781
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 5: Jeremy Smith, Merrivale's head coach, Jeremy Smith, You're an a hole,

782
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 5: That's what I would say. Anybody who's played competitive sports

783
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 5: knows that there's a certain decorum. There's a word called sportsmanship,

784
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 5: and I just wanted to look up the definition so

785
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 5: that maybe Derek Smith never looked it up, or Jeremy

786
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:49,240
Speaker 5: Smith's yeah, and no, no, his brother Dick Smith.

787
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 2: Yeah.

788
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 5: Fair and generous behavior or treatment of others, especially in

789
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 5: a sports contest.

790
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 2: Fair?

791
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 5: What was fair and or generous about this behavior by

792
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 5: the coach that leaves his kid in the game to

793
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 5: pile on another team that's already getting their ass kicked.

794
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,479
Speaker 5: To me, this is like a fireable offense if you're saying,

795
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 5: where are the adults of the room, whatever the school's

796
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 5: athletic director is or head of boosters or the PTA president,

797
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:26,320
Speaker 5: whoever is the adult, should should move to fire this person.

798
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 5: This is setting the worst possible example for future men.

799
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 2: I can't I just can't wrap my head around to

800
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 2: Manzie's point of coming out of halftime and being like,

801
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 2: let's have him get one hundred, right, right, so he doesn't. Yeah,

802
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 2: so what you did in the fourth quarter, because just

803
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 2: simple math would tell us if you don't play in

804
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 2: the fourth quarter and you have one hundred points, then

805
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 2: their team scored less than nine points or less in

806
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 2: the fourth quarter. So you can turn it off. You

807
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 2: can't turn it off. You can turn it down, you

808
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 2: can let other guys do whatever. But if this guy

809
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 2: scores one hundred, I'm guessing unless they're you know, maybe

810
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:13,839
Speaker 2: the team around him isn't the strongest, and that that

811
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 2: happens in high school. I'm not gonna blame them, But

812
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 2: did they turn it off because they were winning by

813
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 2: so much? Or did they turn it off because their

814
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 2: team couldn't make baskets? And I don't think that they

815
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 2: couldn't make baskets. I think that they turned it off consciously,

816
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 2: which makes everything that happened in the whole game that

817
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:35,359
Speaker 2: much worse. I also just can't stand the fact if

818
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 2: you have now obliterated a record, that is going to

819
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 2: take someone else doing this to be able to break it.

820
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 2: Manzi's point of him scoring one hundred points in a

821
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 2: high school game where it's one thirty to one eighteen

822
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 2: was probably a long shot, but we had hopes that

823
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 2: maybe that was the case. Now that's the type of

824
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 2: game that's gonna happen unless you're gonna beat someone one

825
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 2: hundred and eighteen to four and have your star players

826
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 2: or one hundred and five points. So you've had this

827
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 2: record that has stood since nineteen sixty six of seventy

828
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 2: five points, and said, hold on, not only are we

829
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:10,959
Speaker 2: gonna break that one, and we're gonna break the record

830
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,800
Speaker 2: that we wanted to break earlier this year of fifty seven,

831
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 2: we are gonna put it so far out of reach

832
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 2: that no one else can even have the glory or

833
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:24,359
Speaker 2: honor of trying to win this break this record, and

834
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 2: that part is even uglier. On top of doing what

835
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 2: they did to this team that lost by eighty four points.

836
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 4: You're taking away the fun of it of chasing a

837
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 4: record that seems attainable. And also, someone is gonna drop

838
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 4: in the future, let's say seventy five points in a game, right,

839
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 4: and it's gonna be a close game, and that game

840
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 4: is going to be remembered because this is gonna become

841
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 4: something that's not taken seriously, like it's just not we.

842
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 3: Can't take this seriously.

843
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 4: This is a joke, and you made a joke of

844
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 4: the game, Like Jason Stewart is saying, I agree with you,

845
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 4: how this this is a joke of the game, of competition,

846
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 4: of the records, and I just don't I don't get

847
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 4: what you walked away from that feeling good.

848
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 2: Of all the things that Barry Bonds may not be

849
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 2: liked for, the seventy three home runs in a season

850
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,959
Speaker 2: is the part that makes me the most mad. It's

851
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,760
Speaker 2: not the all time mark. You could say whatever you want.

852
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 2: It's the point of what we had. Aaron Judge hit

853
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:26,399
Speaker 2: sixty two, and now everybody's hitting homers in Major League

854
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:32,760
Speaker 2: Baseball and we're still eleven away from tying the record, right,

855
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 2: so Judge hits sixty two, we phrase it in the

856
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 2: AL record. Well, no one's gonna get the NL slash

857
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 2: MLB record because it's so far out there. And so

858
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 2: for all the things of what Balco and Barry Bonds represented,

859
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 2: and I may not be as passionate against them as

860
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 2: others are, the thing that does make me mad is

861
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 2: we will not have an opportunity to see someone break

862
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 2: the single season home run record unless something like a

863
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 2: Barry Bond sort of situation happens again, which is the

864
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 2: same thing would happen in Arizona in a high school

865
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:04,720
Speaker 2: gym this week.

866
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 4: And when you even look at it like that, I

867
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 4: know it's very hard, but there is a chance we

868
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 4: may see someone hit seventy three. There is a chance

869
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 4: eleven eleven home runs over the course of the season.

870
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:18,839
Speaker 3: The way the way you know, maybe the balls are

871
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,919
Speaker 3: changing and offense is going. It can happen. This other

872
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 3: record it legit. I don't know if it can be

873
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:25,240
Speaker 3: broken like legit.

874
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 4: Can a high schooler score one hundred and one points

875
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:30,839
Speaker 4: unless you literally do the same thing again.

876
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:31,919
Speaker 3: It's gonna be this guy again.

877
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 2: Games system, Yeah.

878
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 3: He's gonna it's gonna be the same guy. He's gonna

879
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 3: play the fourth quarter.

880
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:40,240
Speaker 2: What What's it's such? It's such a bad example, uh,

881
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 2: to everyone involved. I don't know if there are parents

882
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 2: that were watching the game that were behind it. And

883
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:49,280
Speaker 2: I think that the the kid is sitting there saying,

884
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:51,839
Speaker 2: my teammates want this. I want to do it for

885
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 2: my team. We see this in the NFL. I want

886
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 2: to get the rushing record for my five guys who

887
00:42:56,480 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 2: block for me. That's fine. That's I understand that portion

888
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 2: of it. And I think probably in their eyes they're

889
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 2: saying he gave credit to his teammates. The teammates are like, yeah,

890
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 2: all right, our guy got this, we got a part

891
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 2: of this. But there's another team. There's other teams in

892
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 2: the future that you that will have to deal with.

893
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 2: None of that was taken into consideration. And I don't

894
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 2: put that on the shoulders of the fifteen, sixteen, and

895
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 2: seventeen year olds. I put it on the shoulders of

896
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 2: Jeremy Smith and the adults in the room, or the

897
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 2: adults in the gymnasium, and and heck you mas I

898
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 2: hadn't play the fourth quarter part right, Yeah, I mean

899
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 2: it seems like it's almost even just pity otherwise considering

900
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,800
Speaker 2: that you felt like this was the need that let's

901
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 2: get them a hundred. He had I understand the fascination

902
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 2: with the number. It's just it's just such an awful look.

903
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 2: And honestly, the article that I read about it was

904
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 2: lifting it up. It seems felt like it was an

905
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 2: uplifting story, and I just didn't find a lot uplifting

906
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 2: from it. And I think when you look back and

907
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 2: the kids look back when they're older, they're going to

908
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 2: kind of understand what actually transpired and maybe why the

909
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 2: adults in the room failed them on that night.

910
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,839
Speaker 4: The opposing team, I don't even I can't even imagine

911
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 4: being the parents of the opposing team in that situation

912
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 4: and seeing your kids be embarrassed like that. Like I

913
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 4: would have just been like, why are we playing? You

914
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, like, this is why I'm not

915
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 4: having kids, guys, because I will be fighting on the court.

916
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 3: Will be in that situation.

917
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, there would be some teams that maybe someone would

918
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 2: take offense absolutely go up for a hard follow up.

919
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 4: Absolutely, No, it's ugly. It's ugly, and it makes no sense.

920
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 6: It's ugly, And I don't disagree with you guys. You

921
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,720
Speaker 6: know about a lot of this stuff, especially a sportsmanship angle.

922
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 6: But this is not without presidens. Iowa's own women's basketball

923
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 6: coach Jan Jensen in nineteen eighty Guests seven scored one

924
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 6: hundred and five points in a game that was six

925
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:57,879
Speaker 6: on six girls basketball. And then our very own Jack

926
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 6: Taylor out of Grenell College Division III, he scored let's see, uh,

927
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 6: he scored one hundred and thirty eight points in a game.

928
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Grinell would score two hundred points.

929
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 6: I know, but it's like, yeah, but this was I

930
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:10,839
Speaker 6: mean he had fifty eight at half time. I mean,

931
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,320
Speaker 6: just like there's this happens. It's just for different reasons.

932
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 6: People have different motivations behind this.

933
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 2: Grinell was the story for a while in sports because

934
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 2: of how they played, because of those huge numbers. But

935
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 2: what were the final scores of their games? It was

936
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,360
Speaker 2: like two eleven to like one to fifty three or

937
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 2: something in this particular game.

938
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 3: Different.

939
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 6: In this particular game they won by seventy five. So

940
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 6: it was one one seventy nine to one oh four.

941
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 3: So I mean you can say around different. That's still

942
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 3: sound way.

943
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 6: Different, no, I know, but like, yeah, back in the day,

944
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 6: people didn't care about this stuff. You're gonna Jan Jensen

945
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 6: goes out and scores one hundred and five points. I

946
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 6: don't know if many people were licking their wounds afterward.

947
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 2: I I just I think that. And I don't know

948
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 2: what the score of that Jan Jensen game was. I

949
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 2: was looking for it happened they won probably by one

950
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:51,760
Speaker 2: hundred and ten.

951
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,760
Speaker 6: Probably, And that's that's probably With women's and girls basketball,

952
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:56,919
Speaker 6: as it gets really even in college at Division one level,

953
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 6: it can get really out of hand.

954
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 2: I also Jan jents And was a top player. And

955
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 2: this is the point that we made earlier. A lot

956
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 2: of schools have one player where they're just better than everybody.

957
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 2: It's probably taller than everyone. In the scoring. That wasn't

958
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 2: even the three point yo, there's different rules. And yeah,

959
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 2: there was this half court I get. I don't know.

960
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,359
Speaker 2: She didn't have to play defense. It was six on six. Yeah,

961
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 2: like Grinell, they're chucking up threes. It's part of the

962
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 2: pace of the game. This is one of the thing

963
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 2: that was pointing out that he scored one hundred by

964
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 2: only having six threes. You know, so like this is

965
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 2: a so this is, you know, a part of the competition.

966
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 2: But scoring one hundred and four points in the game

967
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 2: that you lose by seventy is a lot different than

968
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 2: scoring twenty four points in a game that you lose

969
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:38,360
Speaker 2: by eighty four. And it's also the pace of the

970
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 2: play and you're probably not conditioned enough to keep up.

971
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 2: And I would assume that the score just continues to

972
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 2: get larger and larger as it goes on. This game

973
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 2: was probably forty eight to scored thirty five in the

974
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 2: first quarter. It was thirty five to two, probably at

975
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:52,720
Speaker 2: the first quarter.

976
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:54,359
Speaker 6: I think if I was in the crowd watching this,

977
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 6: I'd start to feel sick after a while, like, yeah,

978
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 6: I didn't I said, I didn't disagree with you guys.

979
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 6: The sportsmanship aspect is the rough part of all of this,

980
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 6: and just start of you're watching something unfold and at

981
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 6: some point, yeah, when do you do step forward and

982
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 6: be like, hey, maybe just need to like it.

983
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:09,800
Speaker 5: And this opportunity is what it is, Like, this was

984
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 5: the opportunity to actually show the players what sportsmanship is.

985
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 5: If you was to get pushback from those players, like man, coach,

986
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 5: let's let's get them to one hundred, then you could

987
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 5: pull them aside and be like, this is why we're

988
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 5: not going to do this tonight. In this game, We're

989
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:27,880
Speaker 5: kicking their ass. I'm pulling off the dogs. I'm just

990
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 5: pulling it off. That's what you're supposed to do. And

991
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 5: by the way, I think the listeners are probably wondering

992
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 5: how many points did the Warriors score the night or

993
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,359
Speaker 5: the Sixers the Warriors the night that well, Chamberlain scored

994
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 5: one hundred. It was one hundred and sixty nine points. Okay,

995
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 5: would you believe this? The top three scoring games of

996
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 5: all time is Wilt at one hundred, Kobe at eighty one,

997
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 5: and then Wilt at seventy eight. Two of those three

998
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 5: were done in losses. I didn't know that interesting. Yeah,

999
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 5: I had no idea.

1000
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 2: When you see, like in the NFL, you have like

1001
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 2: a five hundred yard passing game, most of those are

1002
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 2: done and losses because your team's behind, you're throwing the

1003
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 2: football and maybe you make a comeback and you're still

1004
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 2: throwing the football. But that that's interesting. And so those

1005
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 2: were competitive basketball games where where players were actually at

1006
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 2: their best. Tell you another thing, where if the player

1007
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 2: would have broken the record at fifty eight, maybe the

1008
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 2: next game he tries to break it at sixty right right,

1009
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:32,399
Speaker 2: then there's more of a feeling of accomplishment here. Yes,

1010
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 2: it feels like it's a very empty record to just

1011
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 2: try to rack it up yourself, like there would have

1012
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 2: been competition. Maybe maybe you do on your own in

1013
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 2: a competitive game break the all time state mark of

1014
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 2: seventy five for whatever crazy you know reason that is.

1015
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 2: But it sure feels like they try to take advantage

1016
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:50,360
Speaker 2: of the school that they were playing and do it

1017
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 2: to their own benefit, and nobody won in this situation.

1018
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 3: Empty. I like that you said that. You said that,

1019
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 3: It's like, how satisfying is this? Really? You're going to

1020
00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 3: tell people about this?

1021
00:48:58,800 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1022
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 4: And then it's again not the kid, but like the coach,

1023
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 4: you're you're gonna tell people about Yeah, my kid on

1024
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 4: my team scored one hundred points and we crushed this

1025
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 4: team one hundred two whatever, twenty five thirty five.

1026
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 3: It was like, how is this satisfying?

1027
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1028
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 2: I have no idea at all. If I was the

1029
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 2: other coach, I would have just I don't know if

1030
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 2: they have a shot clock in Arizona. I assume that

1031
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 2: they do, because otherwise at one point I would have

1032
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,720
Speaker 2: just held the ball at half court. Yeah, been like right,