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Speaker 1: On today's Drive to the Draft podcast, we got the

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Speaker 1: fighting logan Paulson's we got top ten tight ends.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes they're just really good at rolling those row and

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Speaker 2: really getting in there.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly right. Then we got what I think every

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Speaker 1: commander spend wants, a commander's mock where we trade back.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're trading out a number seven. Let's get out

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Speaker 3: of there. Let's see if we can stockpile some draft picks.

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Speaker 1: Here. What do we got? Yeah? I love that, And

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Speaker 1: it all starts right now.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Drive Through the Draft podcast. I am

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Speaker 2: just a guy. Jason sitting across from me is former

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Speaker 2: NFL tight end for ten years, a veteran in the sport.

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Speaker 3: Logan Paulson logan, how are you doing?

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Speaker 1: I'm good man. How are you doing?

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Speaker 3: I'm doing okay. A little under the weather.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm through a plane.

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Speaker 2: Hurt fight, fighting through a little under the weather. Speaking

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Speaker 2: of weather, this podcast is going to come out on Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: Normally come out on Wednesdays. I was flying back from

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Speaker 2: a conference. Little weather going on in the area kept us.

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Speaker 3: Up in the air.

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Speaker 2: Landed this in Pennsylvania for some time, so I need

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Speaker 2: to get back in time. To do this show, so

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Speaker 2: we're doing it today. So apologies for that, everybody.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's your fault, so it is.

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Speaker 2: My fault and it's also your it's your favorite, this

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Speaker 2: is your favorite one thing because these we're talking about

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Speaker 2: the logan Paulsons. Yeah, we're talking about the tight ends

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Speaker 2: and Logan. I appreciate you being such a really good friend,

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Speaker 2: just kind and understanding that we're doing this a little later,

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Speaker 2: even though you were so jacked up to.

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Speaker 3: Do tight ends before we begin.

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Speaker 2: Tight End is a big deal here in Washington because

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Speaker 2: recently we just had a free agency signing. You want

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Speaker 2: to talk about any of that before we get going,

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Speaker 2: just real quickly, the state of the Commander's tight end room.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I really like the tight end room currently.

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Speaker 1: I think, you know, John Bates is probably one of

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Speaker 1: think that this shift in offense to this David blow

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Speaker 1: if he goes from you know, I think he had

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Speaker 1: addition with Chicka Konquo from Tennessee, and I get really

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Speaker 1: you never know if someone down the board catches their eye,

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Speaker 1: Like there's a bunch of playmakers in this class.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, before we set up the schedule to do tight

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Speaker 3: What you would agree, I would say that's that's not

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Speaker 2: So originally this was maybe, like you said, Kid, this

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Speaker 1: Is that yeah? And I think after going through this

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Speaker 2: Today that being said, I wouldn't be surprised if one

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Speaker 2: Logan is that I watched eighteen tight ends.

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Speaker 3: You watched a little bit more. Tight End is your thing.

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Speaker 2: So even though we're gonna each do our top tens,

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Speaker 2: each each pod, but in this one we're gonna trade back.

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Speaker 2: Log We're gonna see what happens if you trade back.

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Speaker 2: What can you get in three rounds if you move

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Speaker 2: out of number seven. So stick around and listen to that.

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Speaker 2: But let's get into it. I'm gonna read off my

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Speaker 2: ten through seven. You read off your ten through seven.

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Speaker 2: We'll look at the names that are in there, and

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Speaker 2: we'll go from there. Sound good, yep, absolutely all right.

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Speaker 2: So my number ten tight ends here. My number ten

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Speaker 2: is Michael Trigg from Baylor. Number nine is well, Kack Merrick,

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Speaker 2: for what every reason, great name, Marlon Klein from Michigan.

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Speaker 1: Tanner Colezel, Colzier, Colezel Colesl. I think that's right.

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Speaker 1: So you're at seven. We'll just take a break. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: But for me, it's Max Claire's ten. Matthew Hibner from

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Speaker 2: So yep, So just an FYI for you, I did

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Speaker 2: not watch Matthew Hibner from SMU, so he could very

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Speaker 2: I think in the in the next group we're going

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Speaker 2: with Michael Trigg. The reason I want to start with

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Speaker 2: him is because he's not on your list at all,

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Speaker 2: but Logan, he's on my list of number ten. I'm

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Speaker 2: going at full disclosure because you called me a coward

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Speaker 2: before starting this, I had.

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Speaker 1: A much higher Yeah, much much, I think, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Because the talent, man like, it's undeniable, the talent that's there.

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Speaker 2: So let's let's just start there and talk about the

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Speaker 2: talent of Michael Trigg from Baylor.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think when you cut the tape on,

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Speaker 1: go check out Michael Triggs highlights from this last year

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Speaker 1: He looks like a receiver, right. He's got these great

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Speaker 1: He had an I think it was eighty four inch

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Speaker 2: athletic negatives I see. To me, just athletically, he's kind

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Speaker 2: of like a lottery ticket because you're betting on all

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Speaker 2: these positive crazy highlights that you're talking about, you're gonna

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Speaker 2: I have no investment in this right, so I can

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Speaker 3: No one's keeping me accountable, so I can.

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Speaker 1: Be like a lottery ticket number three.

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Speaker 2: But then we had a conversation leading into this that

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Speaker 2: makes me drop him all the way down to ten.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and again, like I just gushed about him because

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Speaker 1: like when you just watch him, it's like, there's the

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Speaker 1: ball tracking is there, Like he's special. So why is

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Speaker 1: you can go google this yourself. It's not like any

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Speaker 1: inside baseball like. So basically he went from USC to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't know the guy you haven't ever read,

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Speaker 3: Now. I'm not saying that about Michael Trick.

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Speaker 2: I think you'll probably obviously a lot of people think

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Speaker 3: But we'll see, we'll see they'll be surprised if he

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Speaker 1: And I will say this, like, the talent here is

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Speaker 1: And that's why he's ten for you and he's just

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Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about the guy that I didn't watch.

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Speaker 2: Tell me all about Matthew Hibner from SMO.

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Speaker 1: So Matthew Hivner from SMU and number eighty eight on

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Speaker 1: similar to bailor actually, where it's kind of this spread

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Speaker 1: he six', three he's two hundred and fifty one. Pounds

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Speaker 1: has eighty r. Touchdowns he's competitive in, line not a

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Speaker 1: basically pays big road. Receiver SO i thought he's pretty

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Speaker 1: his face on, people he's tightening his elbows, up and

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Speaker 1: remind me? Of he reminds me a lot of Like Dalton,

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Speaker 1: Him WHEN i Watch hipner for example in the run.

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Speaker 1: you don't see the diverse route tree AT smu that

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Speaker 1: That BUT i think there's a ballplayer, here AND i

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Speaker 2: Position my number nine isn't on your, list but is

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Speaker 2: is Will Kachmerek Camerica cameric Okay comeric From Ohio.

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Speaker 3: State so here's kind of WHAT i loved about.

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Speaker 2: Him he has that kind of like prototype blocking why

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Speaker 2: like alignment in a. Way, right he loves to, block

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Speaker 2: or at least they asked him to do, that and

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Speaker 2: he's taking that roll on with a full steam, ahead

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Speaker 2: really good at rolling his. Hips LIKE i looked at

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Speaker 2: him like alignment watching them because that's what they basically

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Speaker 2: to slip, out he'll catch what's thrown to. Him, now

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Speaker 3: Great for your run. Game he's going to be great

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Speaker 2: Tight end room to do that kind of just that trench,

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Speaker 2: but that's not what you're drafting this guy. For you're

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Speaker 2: drafting him to be a supplement to that running game

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Speaker 1: Guys. YEAH i think that's a really good way to

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Speaker 1: this really he was very very. Technical cameric is kind

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Speaker 1: right he gets a little bit high, hipped his base

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Speaker 1: blocking wine in THE. Nfl there's a little bit of

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Speaker 1: technical development and that needs to. Happen but in terms

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Speaker 1: and we've seen guys get drafted From Ohio state who

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Speaker 1: Year like that's exactly what he. Is you know, again

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Speaker 1: me he's more. Developmental but the, frame the, mentality like

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Speaker 1: so it's just about can we polish some of that stuff,

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Speaker 3: Developmental, well how about number eight for You Daleen bentley From.

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Speaker 1: Right he's kind of got like an awkward like really

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Speaker 3: HIM i, said it looks like he lumbers.

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Speaker 1: Around, yeah but then you'll see him just ghost. People

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Speaker 1: like he runs a go versus a cow like where

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Speaker 1: he's running like a clear out go and he runs

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Speaker 1: like a four to six to one at the, combines

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Speaker 1: which is for a tight end is absolutely. Gassing so

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Speaker 1: he's competitive in. Line, right he's a little bit more

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Speaker 1: competitive Than Mike Matthew hibner for. Example, right he's got

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Speaker 1: WHEN i watch. Him BUT i think based on the,

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Speaker 1: There i'm just trying to get past the aesthetic of

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Speaker 1: we've talked about With Zach, er it's, like for whatever

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Speaker 1: Brock bowers From Las vegas is a great. Example they

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Speaker 1: Area does he have? THAT i don't, know BUT i

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Speaker 1: think he's a good football. Player he's, tough, smart, competitive

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Speaker 1: one year of production the other thing that makes me

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Speaker 1: a little bit, Nervous BUT i think he's a good football. Player.

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Speaker 3: Yeah at twelve point nine yards per, reception.

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Speaker 1: Like he's he's. Explosive he's explosive right.

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Speaker 2: Exactly and SOMETHING i wrote down THAT i feel LIKE

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Speaker 2: i noticed is it almost looks like he never makes mental. Mistakes,

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Speaker 2: yeah he's really locked in the right spot doing the right,

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Speaker 2: to what he needs to. Do let's Save Max, claire,

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00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:03,639
Speaker 2: yep let's do that Because i'm going to have him

430
00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:05,920
Speaker 2: a little bit, high and so lets.

431
00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:08,040
Speaker 1: We Do Marlin klein BECAUSE i really want to talk about.

432
00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:11,639
Speaker 1: Him and we'll Save Tanner Colzier colekozl for WHEN i have,

433
00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:13,240
Speaker 1: him BECAUSE i have a little b higher Than, yeah.

434
00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:15,040
Speaker 3: We'll Do Marlin. Klein go, ahead you can Start Marlin

435
00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:15,879
Speaker 3: kleine And i'll finish it.

436
00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,280
Speaker 1: Up So Marlin klein is one of these guys that From,

437
00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:20,800
Speaker 1: michigan like he was the heir apparent To Colston, lovelin

438
00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,480
Speaker 1: who was like the Next Rock. Bowers and obviously that's

439
00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:25,800
Speaker 1: been progressed really, well and everyone, says, oh he's going

440
00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:28,119
Speaker 1: to be kind of, this you, know great kind of

441
00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,600
Speaker 1: he's sixty, six he's two fifty, five two sixty. One

442
00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,160
Speaker 1: at the com big, dude he ran a four to six.

443
00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:35,360
Speaker 1: TWO i want to say he was. Fast he ran

444
00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:37,479
Speaker 1: fast at the, combine got a good four six. One,

445
00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,520
Speaker 1: yeah so very fast at the. Combine and the thing

446
00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:43,720
Speaker 1: about him is there's a little bit of. Stiffness he's

447
00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:46,600
Speaker 1: good enough in. LINE i really wanted to see more

448
00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,480
Speaker 1: pass game from, Him like if you're going to be

449
00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:52,320
Speaker 1: the Next Colston, lovelin you better be. Smooth but at the,

450
00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:54,119
Speaker 1: combo when you watch him run on, film when you

451
00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,399
Speaker 1: watch him, run a little bit. Stiff, obviously if you

452
00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:57,920
Speaker 1: watch The New mexico, game which is early in the,

453
00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:00,640
Speaker 1: season he looks like The Second. Coming but a quarterback

454
00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:02,760
Speaker 1: play At michigan was a little bit up and, down

455
00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,640
Speaker 1: didn't really get an opportunity to. Develop so to, me he,

456
00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,000
Speaker 1: plays at least in my, mind like a blocking why

457
00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:11,879
Speaker 1: that has past game. Upside if you can kind of

458
00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:13,399
Speaker 1: get that get to a place where they're going to

459
00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:15,040
Speaker 1: use it that, WAY i think he could be one

460
00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,080
Speaker 1: of the most dynamic players in this. Class, LIKE i

461
00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,720
Speaker 1: really think he could be. Special it's just it's very.

462
00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:21,720
Speaker 1: Raw he's new to. FOOTBALL i think he's From.

463
00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:25,360
Speaker 2: Germany he's From, Germany, Yeah, germany only twelve college, starts

464
00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:25,879
Speaker 2: very new to the.

465
00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:28,320
Speaker 1: Football, Yeah so like there's a little bit of rawness

466
00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:29,920
Speaker 1: to him and then a little bit of, stiffness which

467
00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:33,399
Speaker 1: makes me. Nervous BUT i like the, FRAME i like the,

468
00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:35,320
Speaker 1: ATHLETE i like the competitor in. LINE i think it

469
00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:36,720
Speaker 1: does a good job with that. Stuff it's just about

470
00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,200
Speaker 1: getting him because he is more developmental than some of

471
00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:39,520
Speaker 1: these other.

472
00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:44,160
Speaker 3: PIECES i mean, This he to me is a run,

473
00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:45,960
Speaker 3: guy game run game.

474
00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:46,240
Speaker 1: Guy.

475
00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:49,399
Speaker 2: First, yeah at least that's how he looked when he

476
00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:51,320
Speaker 2: came off, here because that's where he kind of.

477
00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:53,640
Speaker 1: Excelled, sure and then you're like you, said.

478
00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,919
Speaker 2: You're hoping for the flashes that he showed in the

479
00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,719
Speaker 2: passing game to develop and come up and come up

480
00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:00,920
Speaker 2: as he gets.

481
00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:01,600
Speaker 3: More familiar with the.

482
00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:04,320
Speaker 2: Game one of the THINGS i love about him being

483
00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:07,439
Speaker 2: From michigan team captain this past. Year you, know we

484
00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:11,120
Speaker 2: love those team. Captains it means that they. Digest they're, grinders,

485
00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:12,639
Speaker 2: Right they're gonna work, hard especially For.

486
00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:14,719
Speaker 1: Michigan so he was number eleven for, Me like he

487
00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,320
Speaker 1: was literally right off the. LIST i really like him a.

488
00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,760
Speaker 3: Lot so he's clearly a hard, worker and he will

489
00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,880
Speaker 3: get nasty right. Like AND i don't think he'll ever

490
00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:25,480
Speaker 3: be elite right.

491
00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:27,920
Speaker 2: Like he doesn't have the physical TRAITS i think to

492
00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:29,919
Speaker 2: do that because he's, stiff.

493
00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,040
Speaker 3: He's, tight lanky. Stride i'm gonna give.

494
00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:33,280
Speaker 1: You i'm gonna give you a deep cut. Here you.

495
00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:35,600
Speaker 1: Know you know What charlie kolar, is he plays tight.

496
00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:37,240
Speaker 1: End if he used to play For, baltimore now he

497
00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,960
Speaker 1: plays for The. Chargers, yes he just signed a three,

498
00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:43,720
Speaker 1: year twenty four million dollar. Deal, Okay charlie Kolar is

499
00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:45,760
Speaker 1: kind of like. That he's good enough in the past,

500
00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:47,959
Speaker 1: game but he's excelled in the run. GAME i think

501
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,959
Speaker 1: there's more athlete here For Marlon flyin than, That and

502
00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:53,680
Speaker 1: SO i think if you can get the run game

503
00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,200
Speaker 1: cleared up okay and have this guy that can attack

504
00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,240
Speaker 1: the scene vertically with again a four to six to

505
00:21:58,359 --> 00:21:59,680
Speaker 1: one at six six, two.

506
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,440
Speaker 3: See That i'm talking, about like the movement, Skins he's,

507
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,880
Speaker 3: like there's a STIM i don't how do you loosen Somebody's.

508
00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:07,400
Speaker 1: I'm, saying like he can run a, corner he can

509
00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,200
Speaker 1: run a seam like, sure but like that's the thing with,

510
00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:13,800
Speaker 1: Him it's like it's, there it's. GONNA i think it's.

511
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,160
Speaker 1: Gonna he's He i'm lower on him than you, obviously

512
00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,120
Speaker 1: right right, right he needs a little massaging.

513
00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,760
Speaker 2: Together, well the Reason I'm i'm higher on him than you,

514
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,639
Speaker 2: are even THOUGH i feel Like i'm Like i'm the

515
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,879
Speaker 2: one like is THAT i feel like his floor is

516
00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:30,600
Speaker 2: high coming into the draft because he's good in the run,

517
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:34,840
Speaker 2: game because he's so new to, this and because of the,

518
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:38,080
Speaker 2: mentality like kind of the opposite Of Michael trigg right

519
00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,760
Speaker 2: where you're hearing, like, well maybe the mentality and the

520
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,719
Speaker 2: love of football isn't. There this guy loves, football, right

521
00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,160
Speaker 2: and he's brand new to. IT a captain At. Michigan

522
00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,040
Speaker 2: we know we love Our captains At. Michigan so, like

523
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:53,880
Speaker 2: that's Why I'm i'm putting him here at what eight

524
00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,680
Speaker 2: is because high floor coming, In he's going to be

525
00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,560
Speaker 2: effective in the run game for, you and then you

526
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:01,919
Speaker 2: want him to develop into these other things as he

527
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 2: learns the. GAME i don't know that he'll ever reach

528
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,320
Speaker 2: a peak That i'm talking about that some of these

529
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 2: other guys.

530
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 1: Will, yeah that's What i'm.

531
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:09,720
Speaker 2: Saying it's like he's never going to be an elite,

532
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,160
Speaker 2: GUY i don't. Think but that doesn't mean he won't

533
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,920
Speaker 2: be as, serviceable maybe even a starter at a tight

534
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:15,359
Speaker 2: end at some.

535
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 1: Point. Yeah, NO i think he sounds like we see

536
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:18,400
Speaker 1: him very.

537
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,399
Speaker 2: Similar so, yeah let's see who have?

538
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,879
Speaker 1: We so you got to Do. Eli you got your, Guys.

539
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:29,439
Speaker 2: So, yeah let's Do eli uh rared on, right because

540
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,159
Speaker 2: he's my number, six he's my number, seven, Right so

541
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:33,680
Speaker 2: let's do him first and then we'll read off the.

542
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 2: Others i'm gonna Say Max clair TILL i.

543
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:35,919
Speaker 1: Have him up.

544
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 3: Higher yeah that sounds, good all, Right so let's Do

545
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 3: eli raredon.

546
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:44,679
Speaker 1: From my Seven eli. Again WHEN i first, watched WHEN

547
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:46,439
Speaker 1: i was, like oh, man this guy's got some blocking y.

548
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,960
Speaker 1: Upside he's pretty competitive in the run. Game watching him

549
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 1: Versus miami Blocking Ruben bain getting, physical liked. It he's

550
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,119
Speaker 1: got some good vertical speed and on film he just

551
00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,359
Speaker 1: strikes me as being a little, Stiff like getting into his,

552
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 1: cuts there's some stiffness, there getting out of his. Cut

553
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:02,880
Speaker 1: there's a little bit of stiffness. There AND i kind

554
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:04,920
Speaker 1: of was, like that's, Weird but there is a role

555
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 1: for that type of player in THE. Nfl but then

556
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 1: obviously goes to The Shrine, bowl and the movement skills

557
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:15,160
Speaker 1: were crazy, good like compared to what we saw in. Film,

558
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,680
Speaker 1: right he looks great in one on. Ones he looks

559
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 1: great in team, drills can run the, out can run

560
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 1: like a little bit of an, option AND i, thought

561
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 1: like that didn't show up anywhere on the, tape, Right

562
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 1: but great catch, radius explosive. ATHLETE i really really really like.

563
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 1: HIM i think the thing about him that has him

564
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 1: a little bit lower for me is he waiting at

565
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 1: two forty five at the, combines a little bit. Smaller

566
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:39,160
Speaker 1: can you compete full time in? Line BUT i think

567
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 1: he's Got he's got a lot of traits THAT i

568
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:45,679
Speaker 1: really am excited. About and, YEAH i mean LIKE i

569
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 1: like him a. Lot there's nothing else to say about.

570
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,360
Speaker 2: Him, like, yeah a solid, blocker he has really nice.

571
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 2: Strength WHAT i love is that he like a. Tacks

572
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:56,399
Speaker 2: he's not a. Passage he had tax there AND i

573
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 2: agree with you there sometimes on tape Where i'm like

574
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 2: the at THAT i saw at the, Shrine oh, yeah

575
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:07,160
Speaker 2: it doesn't show, there BUT i see the athlete and

576
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 2: he's On feldman's. Freaklist so there's he's got. That he's

577
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 2: got that in. Him, yeah it's just can we coax

578
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 2: it out of? Him and if you, CAN i think.

579
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 2: YOU i think you got something.

580
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 1: Like he's borderline for me in terms of being like

581
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,399
Speaker 1: kind of a starting f like can you be a

582
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,399
Speaker 1: third down? Piece because, again for what he does in,

583
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 1: line it's it's exciting to think about that continued progression.

584
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:32,120
Speaker 3: For, him, right we see him almost exactly the same.

585
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:36,919
Speaker 2: Way, Okay So i'm going to read off my five

586
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 2: and four and then you'll do your six five. Four

587
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,399
Speaker 2: does that make sense because you just did Your so

588
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:44,880
Speaker 2: my six was Like Eli raredain from there To. Dame

589
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 2: five Is oscar delp From, georgia and four Is Max

590
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 2: claire From Ohio.

591
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:50,160
Speaker 3: State that was your ten.

592
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,200
Speaker 1: Minx, Yes so my six Is oscar delp my five

593
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 1: Is Tenor kozel From, houston and my four Is Jack

594
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 1: injuries From.

595
00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 2: Texas, okay so we're going to start getting pretty close. Here,

596
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 2: yeah LET'S i want to Do Max claire here because

597
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 2: he's my, four your, ten so a little bit of

598
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,679
Speaker 2: discrepancy for, Us so why don't you start and Then

599
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:11,160
Speaker 2: i'll hype.

600
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 1: Him so the thing With Max, claire like when you

601
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 1: watch this stuff From, purdue you're, like this is the

602
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 1: second coming of name your favorite tight. End like it

603
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,879
Speaker 1: looks a little bit Like Rock. Bowers like he's super

604
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 1: smooth in the, hips great ankle flexion coordination to the

605
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 1: football in the air is. Awesome he's got some yards

606
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,120
Speaker 1: after the catch stuff to him running people. Over he's

607
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 1: competitive enough in. Line and then you know you kind

608
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 1: of cut on The Ohio state tape and you're kind

609
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:46,200
Speaker 1: of like where is this? Guy you, know you're watching Kas,

610
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 1: meeric you're Watching claire and you're, like who is? Who

611
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 1: what happened to this tremendous? Athlete and you know he

612
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,640
Speaker 1: had an ankle injury in twenty twenty. Four he put

613
00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,159
Speaker 1: on a little bit of weight to play At Ohio.

614
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,679
Speaker 1: State and the athlete just. Withered so the thing that

615
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 1: made him special just didn't show up to me at

616
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 1: all in twenty twenty. FIVE i, mean he had a

617
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 1: nice fade catch Against, purdue which was awesome to, see but,

618
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 1: like for the most PART i didn't See and, again

619
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 1: they don't really use their tight end that way At Ohio,

620
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:17,399
Speaker 1: state so maybe that's part of. It but you, know

621
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 1: he'd run a corner and it just looked really labored to.

622
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 1: Him he'd run a seam and he has like a

623
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 1: nice little slip, move but that vertical juice that you

624
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,440
Speaker 1: saw At purdue wasn't. There so maybe the injury is

625
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 1: still a, factor you, KNOW i don't know it just

626
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,679
Speaker 1: the difference was so stark that the PLAYER i saw

627
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 1: At Ohio, STATE i was, LIKE i don't know if

628
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 1: he could play at at THE nfl, Level like that's

629
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:40,919
Speaker 1: really WHAT i. Thought but The purdue tape was so

630
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 1: good THAT i had to put him on the.

631
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,120
Speaker 3: List, okay, yeah so why is he my number?

632
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 1: Four?

633
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:50,679
Speaker 2: Yeah because his tape is absolutely insane From. Purdue, yeah from,

634
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 2: right he looks so, smooth hes twitched up son and. Athletic,

635
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 2: Yeah Ohio, state you turn it on and he struggles

636
00:27:58,320 --> 00:27:59,880
Speaker 2: a little, bit a little stiff as.

637
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 1: He and he's not a killer in the run. Games,

638
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 1: yeah likes to be.

639
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:05,119
Speaker 3: Stronger, yeah get stronger.

640
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 2: There but if you believe twenty twenty four over twenty

641
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 2: twenty five that he should be, higher THEN i think

642
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 2: he has the athletic ability to be one of those

643
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 2: top and pass catching tight. Ends were you his route

644
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 2: tree can be looks nuanced At, Purdue, like let me just,

645
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 2: say At, purdue, yeah he is, everything, everything everything you, want,

646
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,239
Speaker 2: Right but it's just funny how it.

647
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 1: Was it was just that poor at like he's trying

648
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 1: to run isolation slants and stuff and there's just no.

649
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 1: Sense makes me think that there's an.

650
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 3: Injury it's got to be An that's What that's the

651
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 3: WAY i looked at.

652
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 2: It, so you, know you know who this reminded me

653
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 2: of is from last year WHEN i tried to Evaluate Luther.

654
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 3: Burden, oh that's, right because it was like he had

655
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 3: that crazy, Year.

656
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 2: Yeah twenty twenty three or in twenty, three and then

657
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 2: twenty four it's, like, man where did all that? Go

658
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 2: it's you, Know chicago has him now and he's showing

659
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 2: a little bit of that again and it's, like, yeah

660
00:28:58,440 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 2: maybe that's what we see.

661
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 1: Here, yeah SO i think that's where it sounds like

662
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 1: we see him very. SIMILAR i just didn't know what

663
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 1: to do.

664
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 3: It i'm gonna battle on the twenty two.

665
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 2: Four and you know Why i'm doing that BECAUSE i

666
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 2: have no stake in, This, yeah, right BECAUSE i can,

667
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 2: Like i'm not drafting for an actual, team SO i

668
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 2: can afford to put him up. There but you, know

669
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 2: maybe IF i had to bet my house on this,

670
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 2: guy be a little concerned with the twenty twenty.

671
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: Five this Is this is also where like the combine

672
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 1: is super. Important like he didn't, test but he ran

673
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 1: routes and again didn't look you, know it didn't look

674
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 1: great compared to some of these other. Guys but you

675
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 1: also get the Medical so if we go in, there

676
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 1: we get AN mri and that ankle or, whatever you,

677
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,959
Speaker 1: know knee and it's, like, oh actually this is this

678
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 1: will this will clear? Up you, KNOW i said an

679
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 1: ankle injury coming out was brock powers don't remember. Side

680
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 1: he handled it, well the medical staff knew about, it

681
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 1: all got taken care. Of but, Yeah Max claar to

682
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 1: me is one of just Like Michael. Trick but for different.

683
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 1: Reasons very difficult evaluation because of like the film in twenty, Four,

684
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 1: man he looks like he looks. Amazing, yeah it looks like,

685
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 1: amazing and then again it's just fell on its face

686
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 1: a little.

687
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 2: Bit, yeah there's gonna be a team that has more

688
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 2: information than we. Do, yep that's gonna take him because

689
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 2: of this athletic up. Sign and if their information's.

690
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 1: Right, yep they'll be. Happy they very, happy, happy.

691
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:13,479
Speaker 3: Right they'll be very.

692
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 2: Happy all, right let's talk about Your let me see

693
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 2: you is your six my five oscar doubt the tight

694
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 2: end From georgia six' five two.

695
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 3: FORTY five, i, mean dude you want me?

696
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 1: TO starter, I mean I love i love. This guy

697
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 1: he's one of my favorite guys. To. Watch man he's

698
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 1: got great bend in, the ankles great bend and. The

699
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 1: knee understands how to roll the hips in terms of,

700
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 1: run game nice, tight elbows understands where the hat should

701
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 1: go in the, run game can do a little bit

702
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 1: of counter like inserting as a. Full back and then

703
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 1: the thing that sticks out, to me man is he

704
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 1: can scoot, like yeah and he's sudden like he can run.

705
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 1: A seam he's got a great double stick with, his

706
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 1: feet good rhythm on, the routes can really break to

707
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 1: space on like corners, and posts can run a quick.

708
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 1: Out like his route running is tremendous like it maybe

709
00:30:58,160 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 1: because Of, the georgia but it reminded me a lot

710
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 1: Of rock bowers just in terms of how his movement,

711
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 1: skills logan why is? Any higher, it's, cause honestly why

712
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 1: did they throw the ball to? Him more if you're

713
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 1: this good and you look this good, on tape why

714
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 1: do you only have twenty nineteen catches on? The year like?

715
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:17,479
Speaker 1: It's criminal and so they had a little bit funky.

716
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 1: Quarterback situation the quarterback there wasn't. That GOOD but i

717
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 1: think this guy is. A stud i think someone's going to.

718
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 1: DRAFT him i think he's going to be a much

719
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: better pro than he was. In college the reason he

720
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 1: sticks for me is because there has to can you catch?

721
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 1: The football can you? DO it i would, hope so

722
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 1: because but you didn't do it in college. At all

723
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 1: the moving skills are all over, the tape the rock

724
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 1: running is. All there they just didn't catch.

725
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 3: The ball he had really solid. Player, HERE yeah i

726
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 3: think like.

727
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 2: High floor so one of THE things i look At

728
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 2: when i'm, writing down like the things that are like

729
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 2: the flags if, you will like the, red flags is

730
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 2: are these.

731
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 3: Coachable or are?

732
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,959
Speaker 2: They? Not sure and some of THE things i have

733
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 2: done there there are two THINGS that i, think like

734
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 2: well they're, not, COACHABLE right a little bit shorter arms

735
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 2: that LOOK like.

736
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 1: I don't did he? Measure out it looks.

737
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 2: Like it and then a little bit stiff with like his,

738
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,479
Speaker 2: upper back kind OF Like theo johnson ish when we

739
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 2: have you can't really coach. That out but the other

740
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 2: things he had a, tough time little inconsistent with, his

741
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 2: routes leans a little bit.

742
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 3: On blocking sometimes those. Are coachable everything.

743
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 2: Else is a, go right the burst a short, airy

744
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 2: quickness like, you said the speed above average speed for the,

745
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 2: tight end and it, shows up shows up on, the

746
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 2: film great, body control, good blocking extends hands with soft

747
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 2: catches again only, nineteen catches.

748
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 1: So, it's like what's? The deal small, sample.

749
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 2: Size but killed it with the small, sample size, so,

750
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 2: good good yak right once he, gets it so, like

751
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 2: yeah why why? Aren't you and it's, almost, like WELL

752
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 2: if i have an interview with him and, He's like

753
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 2: georgia just didn't run it, that way and It's like

754
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 2: i'm happy to, do whatever like give, good interview, good answer.

755
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 1: Like my guy because he basically he basically was the why.

756
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: He played he's built like an f like a, smaller build,

757
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 1: you know but he played y for them and did a.

758
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 1: Great Job and, i'm, like man you have this great,

759
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 1: Skill set like why are we not? Involved more it

760
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 1: sounds like we see him. VERY similar i think he's

761
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 1: a little bit looser than, you think, but again good.

762
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 1: Football player he's six for me because the. Production's tough so.

763
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 2: All Right, jack andrees it was my number, three year,

764
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 2: number four so. Let's go we gotta Do. Tennor kozel,

765
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 2: oh yeah. You're seven, that's right he's my seven and years.

766
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 3: Year five, all right.

767
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 1: Go AHEAD so I was i don't KNOW what i

768
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 1: was expecting. FROM him i wanted to put, him higher

769
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: to be honest, with you because like you WATCHED the

770
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: lsu game and like he's six six and, a half

771
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 1: he's two hundred and forty, five pounds he's got thirty

772
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 1: three and a. Half inch he is a for a

773
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 1: week and so usually those guys are a little, bit

774
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 1: awkward they don't move. Super well he's very fluid for

775
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 1: being a man, that big AND so i didn't think

776
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 1: he'd be a blocker because someone had, told me, you

777
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 1: know he wasn't that good the. Run GAME but i

778
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 1: thought he. Showed competency he, plays high no doubt. About

779
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 1: it but he's want to put his face. On people

780
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 1: he's willing to kind of. Be physical it's, not perfect but,

781
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 1: to me the pass game is why you're here. For him,

782
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 1: it's good it's fine in the, run game but the.

783
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: Pass game so if you WATCH the, lsu game like

784
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 1: the thing that sold me on him is he's lined

785
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: up in isolation on. The, offensive right he runs a

786
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 1: post versus a corner and just high points the ball

787
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 1: over his head kind of. Like treetops the thing pulls,

788
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 1: it in gets two, feet down and then, you're, like

789
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 1: well how often does he? Does that? Do that and

790
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 1: he does it At The. Senior bowl he does it

791
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 1: like kind of all over, the film AND so i,

792
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 1: was like this is a offensive weapon in the. RIGHT

793
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 1: situation i wanted to put, him HIGHER but i went

794
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 1: back and Watched The senior bowl one. ON once i

795
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 1: felt like he had a hard time with some more

796
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 1: physical defenders, like situations AND so i think five is

797
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 1: a pretty nice spot for him to be considered as

798
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 1: this guy that is going to have some really nice

799
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 1: pass game upside.

800
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 2: For, YOU yeah i mean he's, a, skyscraper right he's,

801
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 2: so big, long arms but really. Soft, hands yeah we're

802
00:34:56,480 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 2: such a, big, guy right really good focus. Contested catches

803
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 2: you don't expect a big guy like that to be

804
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 2: as just it looks, fluid right like in a way

805
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 2: like it's smooth and surprisingly good wiggle for. His size

806
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,919
Speaker 2: but THE reason i have him a little further down

807
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 2: IS that i think that his speed is lacking a.

808
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 1: Little bit ran a four to seven at, the combine

809
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:22,839
Speaker 1: right and like a gas but.

810
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 2: And as you would expect for a guy, his size

811
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 2: sinking hard to do to. Get down and he's passive as,

812
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 2: a blocker at least THAT'S how.

813
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 1: I noticed, i mean it's not like he's not like

814
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 1: a thunderous blocker.

815
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 2: Right right you, would again as big as, he is

816
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 2: won a. Little MORE but i think he's.

817
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 1: THAT coachable I think i think that's the, THING is

818
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 1: i think. HE'S willing i think there's some technical stuff

819
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 1: you could, clean up, BUT yeah i agree. WITH that

820
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 1: i just think, the yeah the, Four SEVEN like i

821
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 1: think about guys that are run, four sevens and Like

822
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 1: zach ertz runs a four. To, seven Now zach ertz

823
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,359
Speaker 1: is a little bit sinkier, and BENDIER but i do

824
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 1: think there's a role for this guy on a team

825
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: as a pass catching f where you're not going to

826
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,399
Speaker 1: have him kind of in line. So much, BUT yeah

827
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 1: i think he's the fluidity and the natural hands or

828
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 1: something that really caught.

829
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 3: My, attention yeah the four to seven isn't.

830
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 2: A killer it just stands out when you're looking at

831
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 2: this specific class that has a ton of GUYS running

832
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,800
Speaker 2: i mean some running four, or fives and for six

833
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 2: is like burners in. His class so when you went it, four,

834
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 2: seven yeah. Still good but it just, you know.

835
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,280
Speaker 1: It's it's just, The, context.

836
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 2: Yeah the context of it when you're. Watching it. All,

837
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,439
Speaker 2: right now let's Talk About jack inries number Four.

838
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 3: From. Texas yep another big dude at six five two. Forty.

839
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:38,280
Speaker 1: Five yep.

840
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 3: He led callen.

841
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 2: Receiving in twenty twenty Four With fernanda mendos as his.

842
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 2: Corner quarterback really solid, player, Here, MAN yeah i.

843
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 1: Think So i've i've Worked with jack a little bit

844
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:51,800
Speaker 1: just to kind of get all my biases. OUT there

845
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: i think when you Watch the, cal tape like he's

846
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 1: really really good, In line like he's, good technically they

847
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 1: asked him to do some kind of more. STRAIGHTFORWARD things

848
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: i think he lost a little bit of That, versus

849
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 1: texas but, the understanding the physicality is. Still there so

850
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 1: you talk about the. Coaching thing obviously there's a, different scheme,

851
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,240
Speaker 1: different COACHING but i think you saw it. On film

852
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,399
Speaker 1: it's something you can. BET on i think the Thing

853
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 1: with jack THAT really I, Know jack i've worked. With

854
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 1: him that surprised me was watching About The shrine bowl

855
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 1: and his ability to win in man situations was the

856
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 1: thing that jumped to the forefront. For me so you

857
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: get a guy who's going to be competitive. In line

858
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: he's tall and catches the, football well he. MAKES football

859
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: i Mean at texas like it was a little bit up,

860
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,839
Speaker 1: and DOWN because I Think archie manning was a little

861
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 1: bit up. And down as the year, Went on jack got,

862
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: More productive archie was given him. MORE shots i think

863
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 1: that's correlated to, quarterback play but super sudden in and

864
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 1: out of his breaks can work through like contested catch,

865
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 1: situations nicely plays through plays through contact well and again

866
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 1: is ran a four six two so has some vertical

867
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: juice and it shows up. ON tape i think you

868
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,760
Speaker 1: talk about just solid like kind of checking all. These boxes,

869
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 1: You Know, tanner colesier how good are you in the?

870
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: Run Game oscar delpt didn't a lot of. Catches you

871
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 1: and there's The stiffness jack just he's a little bit

872
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 1: softer on all, those edges all. Those questions THAT'S why

873
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 1: i feel good about him as number four.

874
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 3: For, ME yeah I mean i agree.

875
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,919
Speaker 2: Most completely like the, speed's there maybe the acceleration takes

876
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 2: a little bit to get. Going right he's really, Good

877
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,359
Speaker 2: blocker maybe could get a little. Stronger there like it's

878
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 2: it's these things where he's really good. At these, it's,

879
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 2: like oh just, tweak this just, tweak this, tweak this

880
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 2: and you've got. Something right that's why he's so high.

881
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: For, me YEAH and i THINK that's i totally agree

882
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 1: with that one. Hundred percent, all Right now i'm excited he's, your,

883
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 1: three right he's.

884
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 2: My Three now i'm excited to talk about your three

885
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 2: because he's not on.

886
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 1: My, List Yeah sam Rouse, from stanford why is any on?

887
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 1: Your lists you think you?

888
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,320
Speaker 2: Start TOO because i want you to. CONVINCE me i

889
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 2: don't want to sit here and BE like i kind

890
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 2: of wanted to. Do that i'll Feel like i'll feel like. A,

891
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:53,839
Speaker 2: Fool OKAY so i mean.

892
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 3: I'll start i'm ready. To go i'll tell you, All,

893
00:38:56,600 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 3: RIGHT okay I know i know why You like i'm

894
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 3: going to tell you right now why you like him

895
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 3: ANYTHING about i know why he's a. Coach's kid and

896
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:07,800
Speaker 3: it shows up, man right like he does.

897
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 2: Everything right he's, sound blocker really, technically sound has that,

898
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 2: big frame runs, through contact decent hands like everything you kind, Of,

899
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 2: like okay here's. My thing he doesn't have the extra gear.

900
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 2: To anything he's very good, at everything not above average.

901
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: At anything does that?

902
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 2: Make sense so the reason he's off my list, is,

903
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,839
Speaker 2: Like well i'm trying to, TAKE again i have no stake,

904
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 2: in Anything so i'm taking CHANCES like i want to

905
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 2: find somebody with an elite trait SOMEWHERE that i can

906
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 2: build on.

907
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 3: Our SHOOT and.

908
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 2: I think he just doesn't have that, Good right so

909
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,839
Speaker 2: that's why He's all but all these things, are GOOD

910
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 2: like i can't say anything.

911
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 3: Necessarily bad does that?

912
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 1: Make sense? All right so this IS what. I see

913
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 1: so he's six y six two, sixty seven so he's

914
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,720
Speaker 1: the biggest guy at. The combine he had a thirty

915
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 1: eight and a half inch vertical for a, big man

916
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 1: and that's pretty impressive around a four seven forty ran the,

917
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 1: three cone did the, whole thing did every single drill at.

918
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 1: The combine was like one of two athletes to. Do,

919
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 1: that okay then you cut the. Tape on dude is

920
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 1: a savant when it comes. To blocking we talked about

921
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 1: cameric down, the board like how there's some little bit of,

922
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 1: technical inconsistency Like watching Sam Block reuben bain with just tight,

923
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 1: inside elbows rolling, his hips great understanding of leverage, And

924
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 1: feel i'm, On balance i'm, not leaning my hat's in the.

925
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 1: Right spot like he could come in right now and

926
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 1: start as a y FOR an nfl, football, Team, right

927
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 1: okay so that's he's. A, Blocker, okay YES then i

928
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:41,399
Speaker 1: think the THING that I kept i watched a couple

929
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 1: of games in right, BECAUSE like i, like BLOCKING so

930
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 1: i can watch a couple. Of them the other thing

931
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 1: that stuck out to me is like his there is

932
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 1: a really good suddenness and tempo to how he. Runs

933
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: Routes SO what i mean by that is like second,

934
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:56,879
Speaker 1: Level release like some guys get, really loopy they kind

935
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 1: of get really, pushed out like the coaches kid thing

936
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 1: comes to. The, front here nice two. Step redirect i'm

937
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 1: gonna chop down on. The arm i'm gonna stay vertical on.

938
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 1: MY stem i can push through contact at. THE top

939
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 1: i actually for a, BIG man i decelerate and accelerate

940
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 1: out of the cut of my brake. Really well like

941
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 1: there's a couple of Clips Versus florida state where he's

942
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,399
Speaker 1: Running At. Florida state i'm mixing. It up but there's

943
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 1: a team early in the season where he's running like

944
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 1: a dig and he's just leaving the guy and separating,

945
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,799
Speaker 1: really well big frame at. The catch guys trying to play.

946
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 1: Through contact and this is going to, sound Crazy and

947
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 1: I'M saying i got shades of THIS when i was,

948
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 1: watching him like This big why that has pass game

949
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: upside because ultimately that's what you're, Looking for BECAUSE if

950
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 1: i can be in twelve PERSONNEL and i have this

951
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:38,359
Speaker 1: guy in the field and he can win a one

952
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 1: on one, for me like that is maybe the most

953
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: valuable chess piece in the offense IN, The, nfl like

954
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 1: it's just hard to find. That guy and the last

955
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 1: guy to do that Significantly Was. Rob gronkowski now He's Not,

956
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 1: rob Gronkowski Because rob gronkowski was an. Absolute mutant he

957
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 1: ran a four to. Six five he had thirty four,

958
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 1: inch arms thirty three. Inch arms this is not the,

959
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 1: same thing but there are shades. Of that SO if i,

960
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 1: feel like, for example he's running a kind of a,

961
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:07,800
Speaker 1: choice slant he wins cleanly right VERSUS a dB versus

962
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 1: miami actually versus, our guy Can't? They SCOTT and i,

963
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 1: was like there's, something, here right and again you got

964
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 1: to kind of sprinkle pixet us on it a little

965
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,280
Speaker 1: bit and, be like is he in the? Right offense

966
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 1: is someone going to use? Him correctly but finding guys

967
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 1: that are, this big that move, this way that are this,

968
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 1: well coached that accelerate deseller it, this WAY like i.

969
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,280
Speaker 1: JUST couldn't i couldn't. Resist it, I'M sold i couldn't.

970
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 1: Resist it.

971
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 2: I'M Sold, I look i don't disagree with Anything, you

972
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 2: like everything you said makes.

973
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 3: Sense TO what. I, watched YEAH so i can see,

974
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 3: it now look at look.

975
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 1: At, YOU yeah i don't know. About that almost like

976
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 1: you know what you're, talking ABOUT but i guess. The

977
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 1: guy so the role, becomes, important right role in utilization

978
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 1: become really important.

979
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 3: For him, ALL right i think we're at two, and.

980
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 1: ONE and i think they're. The same i'm going to

981
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 1: be super.

982
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 2: Surprising here Number Two eli Stowers, from vandy and you

983
00:42:58,160 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 2: can say Number One.

984
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 1: John Kenyon's Ak Scott kenyon's Kenyan.

985
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 3: From, oregon yeah, all right let's Start with.

986
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 1: Towers Here, so stowers to me is the best route

987
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 1: runner in the, whole class like and it's not. Even

988
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 1: close like he, is smooth, He's sudden he understands zones

989
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 1: at a really. High level for he understands man coverage,

990
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 1: really well understands that a beat leverage is fast round

991
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 1: a four or five one at, the combine got great

992
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 1: coordination to. The football there are times where you see

993
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 1: some in terms of like his decision in terms of

994
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 1: hand placement how to catch. The football you see the

995
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:34,359
Speaker 1: newness of. The POSITION but i don't think it's EVEN

996
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 1: quite i think it's close in terms of, route running

997
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 1: like he is just head and shoulders above. Everybody else for,

998
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,240
Speaker 1: A moment i thought about putting Him. A Kenyan sadek

999
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:43,800
Speaker 1: i'm gonna TELL you i didn't in, a minute but

1000
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 1: that's what. He is he is a great, route runner,

1001
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 1: great feel he can almost. PLAY receiver i feel like

1002
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 1: in moments in the run game he's learning still he's a.

1003
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 1: Converted QUARTERBACK but i think there's a competitive toughness there

1004
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 1: that makes me believe if you put him in like

1005
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 1: The zach ertz role where, it's, like hey we're not

1006
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 1: going to ask you to be a, total killer but

1007
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 1: if you understand where your hat, should go you, understand

1008
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 1: leverage you understand how to use, your feet you got a.

1009
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 1: SHOT there i got a lot of shades different athletes

1010
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: and different kind of ways, to win but shades of

1011
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 1: like how you Would Use jordan reid in. An, offense OKAY.

1012
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 2: So i would say the weakness that's going to bring

1013
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 2: his value down what you just alluded to is that the,

1014
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 2: blocking game he just isn't super involved.

1015
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 1: In it and then then that's that's a great. Point

1016
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 1: too it's like they don't they don't, even, ask.

1017
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, He's, on, yeah exactly he's. Not involved it's not he's.

1018
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 2: Not right and then the same zero experience on, special

1019
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:36,800
Speaker 2: teams like they didn't ask him to.

1020
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,280
Speaker 3: Do that so that kind of hurts him a little

1021
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 3: bit because you may bring him in and.

1022
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:43,839
Speaker 2: Be like, all, right well you gotta you gotta show

1023
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 2: with something on, special teams you gotta be involved in.

1024
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 2: Run blocking so that may limit his, draft value but

1025
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 2: that doesn't mean that he's not the second best tight

1026
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 2: end in. THIS class I mean i have a real

1027
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 2: question like why why not be a, wide, receiver right

1028
00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 2: like a big wide receiver because he.

1029
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 3: Has, that movement, that ability that route running nuance like he.

1030
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,359
Speaker 1: Has that i've had the, same Thought like i've talked

1031
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 1: to like talk to people about him and that has never.

1032
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:10,359
Speaker 1: Come up but, to me it's like that's how good

1033
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 1: he is as a, Rout runner like that's how nuanced.

1034
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 1: He is and, you know like there's a great like

1035
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 1: out and up that he Runs versus texas for like

1036
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 1: a seventy five, Yard touchdown like like he runs these

1037
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 1: really nice like this is like really nerdy, football stuff

1038
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 1: like these great crossing Routes where i'm stemming versus man

1039
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 1: and knowing where to hit. Versus zone like it's really

1040
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 1: four or five.

1041
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:33,839
Speaker 2: To one the, Speed's there like he's, the athleticism, He's,

1042
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 2: got yeah everything to be an elite wide receiving weapon in.

1043
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 1: An, offense yeah AND so, i think like depending on

1044
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 1: where you want to like how you want to. Use,

1045
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:44,720
Speaker 1: THEM like I think i can honestly see some teams

1046
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 1: having a higher grade on Him Than. Kenyan sadik but

1047
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 1: we're going to talk about why that may not be.

1048
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 2: The, case well let's Talk About kenyan Sidik from oregon

1049
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 2: sixty three two forty one ran a four to three

1050
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 2: nine at.

1051
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 1: The combat oh he ran the Fourth nit i'm.

1052
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 2: Just, Kidding, yeah yeah he an, absolute athletic freaking he

1053
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 2: was the out.

1054
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 1: Of The, bad yeah and he didn't do any. Field

1055
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 1: WORK but i think the Thing about kenyon that really.

1056
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 1: Impressed me he's physical in the run game and. Stay

1057
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 1: attached you see his. Play strength he's, got great great

1058
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 1: feet in the. Run game great feet like when you

1059
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 1: get a, push pull like your feet Like when i'm

1060
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:18,800
Speaker 1: trying when the defender trying to pull, you forward like

1061
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 1: grabbing your shoulder and hads pulling you like a lot

1062
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 1: of guys will lean, into that their butt'll come up

1063
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 1: and they'll kind of fall down or. Lose balance his

1064
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 1: feet are, so good man like to just accelerate into

1065
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 1: that contact into that lack of pressure and. Refine pressure

1066
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 1: it's really hard. To do he's freaking excellent. At. It

1067
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 1: right vertical speed there you can attack the seam when

1068
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 1: he runs a seam. Is freaky the thing for me

1069
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 1: with him that gets, Me NERVOUS like i was just

1070
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 1: Talking to fred about this a. Little bit, you know

1071
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 1: everyone talks about always He's, Rock Powers He's, Callson Lovelin He's. Tyler,

1072
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 1: warren right those guys are super silky in the short

1073
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 1: to mid area stuff like on like, choice routes on like,

1074
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:03,359
Speaker 1: you know outbreaking ten yard routes. On, digs right they

1075
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 1: are really good on their. Deceleration mechanics he's got a

1076
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 1: little bit of it's like heaviness to him on, the

1077
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:13,320
Speaker 1: decelerations probably because he's running. Really Fast but i'm a

1078
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 1: little bit it may be a little bit concerned because

1079
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 1: everyone's like always going to be a top ten pick. For,

1080
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 1: Me No like i'm gonna put them a little bit

1081
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 1: down the board BECAUSE again i need to see some

1082
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 1: of that, movement skill, good, player, competitive tough the explosive

1083
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 1: playmakers there he becomes a running back with the ball in,

1084
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 1: his hands all those things you want. TO see i just,

1085
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 1: worry that like you're going to get him and he's

1086
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 1: going To Be kyle pitts is a point, of, comparison

1087
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 1: right someone who can only run a vertical. Rout tree,

1088
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 1: that's fine but like when you're drafting someone in the,

1089
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 1: top ten you want them to do a multitude. Of

1090
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,319
Speaker 1: things i'm not SURE that i saw that. From him

1091
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 1: they didn't ask him to do a lot of that,

1092
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 1: At organ but that's my only concern with.

1093
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 2: THAT player i mean his hands are, super, strong yeah great,

1094
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 2: body control really hard to, Bring down like when he gets,

1095
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 2: the ball it becomes an it's he's got the athletic

1096
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 2: ability get open and then it turns into the. Next

1097
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 2: problem once he has. The ball he's super creative and

1098
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,320
Speaker 2: hard to bring down with the, ball right like a

1099
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 2: lot of. Tight ends it's like can you get open

1100
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 2: and catch? The, ball cool fall down or run a

1101
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 2: guy over maybe a little bit like there's not that,

1102
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 2: extra THING like i have a.

1103
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 3: Wide receiver, it's like get him. The ball he can get,

1104
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 3: the ball then he can go with the.

1105
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 2: Ball somewhere like he brings both those ELEMENTS and i

1106
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 2: JUST he i mean he gets after it in a,

1107
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 2: run game like so it's not like some of the

1108
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 2: other guys that are high end. Receiving prospects but the

1109
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 2: run game is, man like he'll do, it right and he.

1110
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:39,320
Speaker 1: DOES it i think he's a better blocker than he

1111
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 1: is a. Pass CATCHER like, i know that. Sounds. Great

1112
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 1: interesting that's HOW impressed i was with HIM when i, watched.

1113
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 2: Him, right so like this is this is your tight

1114
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 2: end one potentially if you're, drafting, Them right, AND so i,

1115
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 2: DON'T know i see there are a couple of things

1116
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 2: that make him not The perfect, like.

1117
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 3: Surprisingly his catch radius is.

1118
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 1: Not great. Not great it's just like he's not like

1119
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 1: he's not like like when YOU want i Remember watching

1120
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 1: coason Lovel And brock Bauers And tyler warren and they

1121
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:11,240
Speaker 1: they just have like they just can make plays in the. Passing,

1122
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 1: game yeah here it feels like it's very we got

1123
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 1: to be very specific. With utilization that's a great way to. Put,

1124
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:16,800
Speaker 1: it yeah you got to.

1125
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 2: Be specific but, but man a lot to like a

1126
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 2: lot to like that's why he's. Number one any, Honorable, Mentions, LOGAN.

1127
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 1: Yeah i got a couple. Honorable mentions we talked a

1128
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 1: little Bit About michael trigg we Talked About, Will kimeric

1129
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 1: we Talked About marlon. Klein again all GUYS that i

1130
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 1: think are are are well within the honorable mention TIER

1131
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 1: that i would. Kind of i'm glad we. Talked about

1132
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 1: let me just pull my list up. Real quick and

1133
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,840
Speaker 1: so another GUY that i wanted to talk About Was

1134
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 1: nate Brodricker FROM texas A. And m he only had like,

1135
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 1: sixteen catches and the reason he's on the list he's

1136
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 1: good in the, run game. Long arms he was the

1137
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 1: most impressive tight end At The, senior BOWL and i

1138
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 1: think he caught the ball as one of the better

1139
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 1: tight ends At. The COMBINE so i think the lack

1140
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 1: of production is more a result of just them not.

1141
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 1: Using HIM but i think he's kind of a diamond

1142
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 1: in the rough and someone definitely keep an. Eye on

1143
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:10,719
Speaker 1: but you mentioned my, Other Guys, michael Trigg, Willcas Merrick,

1144
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 1: will kimeric, excuse Me And. Marlon klein we're all GUYS

1145
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 1: that i want to, talk about.

1146
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 2: All, RIGHT logan i think it's time for the mock.

1147
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 2: Draft segment it's the most fun segment, for, Me honestly

1148
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:24,839
Speaker 2: and what we're gonna do is we're gonna do one, mock,

1149
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 2: draft right just one, this time. Love it sometimes we.

1150
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 2: Do two we're gonna do three, rounds, here okay but

1151
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 2: we're going to. Trade back let's. Trade back we're going

1152
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 2: into this draft saying we're going to trade back at. All,

1153
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 2: Costs Okay so i'm going to start the little, simulator here.

1154
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:43,800
Speaker 2: All right mendoza goes, AT One rvl rees goes to To,

1155
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 2: The jets bain goes three To, The Cardinals sunny styles

1156
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:51,400
Speaker 2: goes To, The Titans david bailey goes To. The giants,

1157
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 2: At Six francis malanoa goes To.

1158
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 1: The.

1159
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 2: Browns wow so that sits us on, the clock, and

1160
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 2: man this is actually feels like a. Real possibility We Have,

1161
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 2: Jeremiah Love caleb downs staring, At Us Yea carnel taate

1162
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 2: like a lot of the names that have been linked,

1163
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 2: to us and it's you, know, what guys we just

1164
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 2: need more draft than we need. More draft and there's

1165
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:17,840
Speaker 2: somebody out there that really really wants to come up

1166
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 2: for any other down To Love A. Carnel tait so

1167
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:27,320
Speaker 2: the potential trades on the Board is miami wants to

1168
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 2: move up from. Pick, Eleven, okay okay they are offering,

1169
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 2: pick eleven pick number Thirty, from denver and pick number

1170
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:39,800
Speaker 2: seventy five in the.

1171
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 3: Third, round okay for our for, our seven we're moving, back, one,

1172
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 3: two three.

1173
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:48,319
Speaker 1: FOUR spots i think you do a backflip if were, doing,

1174
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 1: it dude if you. Get this so if you get

1175
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 1: it's basically any top one hundred picks, And right so

1176
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 1: like thirty is a first, round pick eleven is a first,

1177
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 1: round pick seventy five is a top one.

1178
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 3: Hundred pick the other team that is on the board that,

1179
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 3: is offering so let me know if you like this,

1180
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 3: one better maybe you? Do it Is The Kansas city

1181
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 3: chiefs steer. Too back they probably want to come up

1182
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 3: and get somebody here Playmaker. For mahomes so you're only

1183
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 3: moving back. Two, spots yeah they're offering you.

1184
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 1: The, ninth okay the.

1185
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 3: Twenty ninth what are we doing in the? Seventy?

1186
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 1: Fourth ninth twenty ninth in the? Seventy, fourth mean so

1187
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:24,839
Speaker 1: who do you want?

1188
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 3: To do Miami Or?

1189
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 1: KANSAS city i mean in, this world We Do kansas

1190
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:31,840
Speaker 1: city because you're only moving back to and they're giving you. Better, picks,

1191
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:35,919
Speaker 1: Right yeah so let's do it, all right let's, see

1192
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 1: here here.

1193
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 2: We, go yep there it is in. The books resume,

1194
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 2: the draft. All right and They Took jeremiah.

1195
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 1: Love okay, all right so he's Off To.

1196
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 3: Kansas City the saints Then Took. Caleb.

1197
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 2: Downs okay so now we're sitting SITTING pretty i think

1198
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 2: at number nine, Here here i'll show You THE sorry

1199
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 2: i don't have a Hooked Up, Mansor Delane, Carnel Tate, Dylan.

1200
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 1: Thieneman, oh dude he's A, Stud.

1201
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 2: Spencer fano Monroe Feeling. Kenyan city could we just talked About.

1202
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:12,800
Speaker 2: Mackay lemon it's, so much it's so funny, to ME

1203
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 2: like i feel. REALLY comfortable i feel like the value

1204
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:17,800
Speaker 2: here is trade. OUT again i do kind of look for.

1205
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:20,359
Speaker 1: THIS drill i do kind of like for, this DRILL

1206
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 1: like i WOULD say i would feel very Comfortable Taking

1207
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:27,719
Speaker 1: carnel tate here. At ten. It's funny it's just down,

1208
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:30,320
Speaker 1: two Spots and, i'm, like oh, that's perfect let's, do

1209
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 1: that you KNOW what? I Mean Or. MANSOR delane i

1210
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 1: think it's another really interesting pick. There too.

1211
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 3: AT corner I was i was sitting here ready to

1212
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 3: argue with You, about downs, but yeah.

1213
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:40,799
Speaker 1: GO ahead i kind of we Should Go. MANSWORD lane

1214
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 1: i think there'd be a receiver there at twenty nine

1215
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 1: we could, pick up or do you think there's? A safety?

1216
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 2: Could, think well remember now our remaining picks is seventy

1217
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 2: one and. SEVENTY four i guarantee you there's a receiver

1218
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 2: that we're both.

1219
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 1: Gonna love so do you want to go?

1220
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 3: Down There So i'm i'm kind.

1221
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 1: Of thinking the OTHER one i want to ask you

1222
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 1: About Was spencer fano at center For The. Washington commanders

1223
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 1: i'm because again they were On The tyler. Linnemum thing

1224
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 1: fino can. Play center he snapped at. The combine we

1225
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 1: saw him. DO it, i mean that's just seemed. OH vague,

1226
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 1: i one that's.

1227
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 3: If you're going to talk, Offensive line That's what i'm going.

1228
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,359
Speaker 3: To DO and i know that that. Positional, value sorry

1229
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 3: that's a Guard From.

1230
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:16,840
Speaker 1: Penn state no.

1231
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 2: Positional value taking, Number nine he'll be the second offense

1232
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 2: line off the board being. A guard but your we

1233
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 2: feel fine at?

1234
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 1: Tackle, HERE yeah, I think i HONESTLY think i think

1235
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:30,319
Speaker 1: that's a. GREAT selection i think all those. ARE possibilities

1236
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:32,839
Speaker 1: i would probably say at this POINT because I Think

1237
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:35,839
Speaker 1: mansword delaine is head and shoulders above the other guys

1238
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:38,359
Speaker 1: on the board right, FOR you, I remember i'm trying

1239
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 1: to think about your. CORNER up.

1240
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 3: I, Think, tate Tate and delane are probably in the.

1241
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,320
Speaker 3: Same tier THAT'S what i. Would say so it depends

1242
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 3: on which way you want.

1243
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 1: To.

1244
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:50,280
Speaker 2: GO now i feel comfortable again in the, later rounds

1245
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 2: in the seventy one or at seventy four in this,

1246
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:54,400
Speaker 2: MOCK draft i think we're going to grab a.

1247
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:55,880
Speaker 3: Wide receiver. We're happy the.

1248
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 1: OTHER thing i wanted to just bring up people quick before,

1249
00:54:57,719 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 1: we CONTINUED is i don't, if you, let's say, for

1250
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 1: example you wanted to get an offensive lineman at, The

1251
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 1: turn i'm not sure there would be one there for,

1252
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 1: you POTENTIALLY but I think i feel good about offensive line. Right, now,

1253
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 1: okay yeah SO do i? Feel great but like there's

1254
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:14,359
Speaker 1: no defensive guy right? Is THERE so i, would say

1255
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 1: let's go Our Guy carnel.

1256
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:18,919
Speaker 3: Tate here I'm gonna i'm gonna. Push back i'm Gonna.

1257
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 3: SAY delane i Mean, on delaine let's do, IT right I,

1258
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 3: say delane Like Think, Trey Amos, mikey sanders Still. Mansor

1259
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 3: delaine three.

1260
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 1: Very, young talented talented in. The.

1261
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 2: BACK yeah I think i think that really solidifies an

1262
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 2: AREA of i don't want to, say need but coming into, this,

1263
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:38,759
Speaker 2: strength yeah strengthens.

1264
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 3: IT up i want to Go manswor delaine.

1265
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 1: Love it let's do it, All right let's do it.

1266
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:43,359
Speaker 1: All right so We Got.

1267
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 3: Manser delaine we're going all the way back to pick number.

1268
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 1: Twenty nine i'm gonna let you take. Over, here okay

1269
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 1: where are? You going just walking? Around, SOMEPLACE no i

1270
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:56,479
Speaker 1: Just went i'm going to give you a little POWER

1271
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 1: since i had power. At that how do you scroll

1272
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 1: down on? This coach you used?

1273
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 3: A pad? Your fingers? Two, fingers ye there, you go there,

1274
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:08,920
Speaker 3: you go. Two fingers, ALL right i am. Taking, Over

1275
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:14,399
Speaker 3: Okay so i'm not afraid of going defense, again.

1276
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:15,359
Speaker 1: HERE logan.

1277
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 3: I love the Idea of kadi McDonald the. Defensive interior.

1278
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 1: Also A. T, j parker don't forget what, you're GOT. T.

1279
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 1: J parker i do LIKE. T, J. PARKER dude i THINK.

1280
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:32,760
Speaker 1: T j parker might be the move Here For edge. Rusher,

1281
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 1: potentially okay, YOU know i want to be upset with.

1282
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:39,800
Speaker 1: That either but but Here's what.

1283
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:42,719
Speaker 2: I'm thinking THE reason i called out McDonald, right away

1284
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:46,479
Speaker 2: Even though parker is also there is because we don't

1285
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:49,359
Speaker 2: know what's going On With deron pain bringing another young

1286
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 2: guy in here.

1287
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 1: That area That's why, I'M saying i think if you're

1288
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:55,400
Speaker 1: going to play a three four and you want a

1289
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 1: true nose guard and you want to Maybe Give tim

1290
00:56:57,560 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 1: settle some flexibility to play A four i or three,

1291
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 1: tech meek that's not a bad idea in terms of

1292
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:06,480
Speaker 1: being able to slot. Him in and that would be

1293
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 1: the one to scroll up, Right, There sorry Jason Scrolling

1294
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:12,279
Speaker 1: zion Young. FROM missouri i know that might be a,

1295
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 1: little HIGH but i think he's a heck of a.

1296
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 1: Football player he, is violent. He's physical it's downhill talk

1297
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 1: about a commander just in terms of. Physical. Violence, edge

1298
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 1: yeah he plays, the edge plays, stand up puts his.

1299
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 1: HAND down i kind of like him a little bit

1300
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 1: better THAN. T j, parker PERSONALLY but i think McDonald

1301
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 1: or him would be an. Excellent picker what do You

1302
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna i'm gonna lean to you on. This

1303
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 1: one do you want to go edge more? Than interior

1304
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 1: just so thinking, about it So Obviously dorance armstrong and

1305
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 1: and you have a You Have, Caleb On, chase on

1306
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 1: you have all. Those guys so it's like, to me

1307
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 1: maybe you don't need, An edge maybe interior defensive tackle would.

1308
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 1: Be better AND and i love McDonald he was so

1309
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 1: disrupted versus. The run talk about the doc. Arts there

1310
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 1: maybe that's the. MOVE there i.

1311
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 3: LIKE it, i mean you're bringing in settle to help with.

1312
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 3: The run this is another piece to help with.

1313
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 1: The run the Only thing i'd, ask Is Like, caleb

1314
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 1: banks if you just wanted to like swing for the

1315
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 1: frist moon from a, physical, standpoint right the film for

1316
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 1: caller McDonald is, WAY better, i, Think.

1317
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 2: Right But caleb banks is your. Lottery ticket like this

1318
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 2: is kind OF a i don't want to say a

1319
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:21,440
Speaker 2: free first, round pick but you're getting to get a

1320
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 2: little chance here being back in here take an.

1321
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 1: Athletic, FREAK yeah I mean i have a higher grade on,

1322
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 1: McDonald PERSONALLY but i. Do too i'm gonna Stick. TO

1323
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 1: migraine i think that's the, Right idea, Katy, McDonald okay

1324
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:33,480
Speaker 1: i'll go.

1325
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 2: With that, All right so we're taking the defensive Tackle From,

1326
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 2: Ohio state kata. McDonald here he's really going to help

1327
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 2: with the run? Right, AWAY yeah i think, All right

1328
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 2: now we're at. Seventy one this IS where i feel

1329
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 2: like we're going to find seventy one and seventy, four

1330
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 2: here we're going to find our. Wide receiver we're going

1331
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 2: to look. That direction BUT then i think we can

1332
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 2: go kind of anywhere we want.

1333
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 1: To get so THEN one i want to ask you

1334
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 1: about seventy one is What About mike Washington? From arkansas they? Running,

1335
00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 1: back yeah, because AGAIN like i think the running back

1336
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 1: room looks great, Right now it's got some. Good depth

1337
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 1: but he would he's an. Explosive piece he's a, bigger

1338
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 1: body he's, you know, six one two, Twenty five and

1339
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 1: this feels like good value for running back in the,

1340
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:14,160
Speaker 1: third round a guy that could again bring in explosive

1341
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 1: elements of, the offense more of a downhill kind. Of

1342
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 1: RUNNER and i do think there are some receivers maybe

1343
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 1: down the board that we.

1344
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 2: Feel good so looking at, the receivers we're gonna pick

1345
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 2: again and three, more, Picks right so are you okay

1346
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 2: with getting here's? The order Zach Ryat Branch, dion Burks.

1347
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:33,440
Speaker 2: TED hurst i Like My. MALACHI fields I like i.

1348
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 2: Like RIGHT so i think even if even if there's

1349
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 2: a run on, wide receivers you're going to hit the

1350
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 2: guy that.

1351
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 3: You, like yep when it comes to, running back.

1352
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 1: IT gets i would assume it GETS very i Think,

1353
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 1: After Washington, JONAH coleman i think it's so. Solid player

1354
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 1: seth McGowan's a, good player but that's, you know. THEY'RE

1355
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:53,400
Speaker 1: there i Like the singleton. A, lot yeah that's a later.

1356
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 1: Round guy so it really just depends on how you feel.

1357
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 1: ABOUT it, i personally After Watching mike washington and the

1358
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:01,680
Speaker 1: combined performance that he, PUT on i want to bet.

1359
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 1: On athletes can we look at safety?

1360
01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 3: Real, QUICK yeah i want to look, at safety and

1361
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 3: then let's look at. Tight end where are we sitting.

1362
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 1: With Sure, Ramsey Jenness, Bud, clark yeah we drafted him.

1363
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:15,560
Speaker 1: Last week let's let's say that on we talked about him.

1364
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 1: A ton i, THINK there i would probably go running.

1365
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:20,160
Speaker 1: BACK here i know that, sounds crazy but like it's an.

1366
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 1: Extra pick you gained a little bit of a. Lottery

1367
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 1: pick let's. Invest there when he Was, in washington he

1368
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 1: invested quite a bit at, running BACK and i think

1369
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:29,640
Speaker 1: that was probably boded well.

1370
01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 2: For him, So, Said Yeah max claire's Here And sam

1371
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:38,919
Speaker 2: rousch the guy you love? IT here, i, think man

1372
01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 2: we talked about.

1373
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:42,360
Speaker 1: JACK injuries i think is too low. On this by,

1374
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 1: the way he's won thirty one. ON here i would

1375
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:45,920
Speaker 1: consider taking, him HERE but I think i feel like

1376
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 1: the room is Pretty.

1377
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:48,440
Speaker 2: Co, YEAH yeah i think you're going to get a

1378
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 2: tight end potentially in another round here that it seems

1379
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:52,439
Speaker 2: pretty deep.

1380
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:55,000
Speaker 1: Open, there YEAH so i think running. Back, Coach.

1381
01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:59,280
Speaker 3: Yeah i'm just quickly. SCROLLING through i agree.

1382
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 1: With you let's go and. Go RUN and i don't

1383
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:02,440
Speaker 1: know a big running, back guy but this is an

1384
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 1: extra pick you got in the trade and an. Offensive,

1385
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 1: PLAYMAKER yeah i think it feels Like So Mike, washington

1386
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:11,560
Speaker 1: junior that running Back. From, arkansas yeah good pass peck

1387
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 1: add to that, room.

1388
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 2: There yep and then now we are going to take

1389
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 2: our favorite. WIDE receiver i think, right here that's the way.

1390
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:21,160
Speaker 2: To go really hope. That again I'm A malecki, fields

1391
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 2: guy you KNOW how i feel. About him i'm not

1392
01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:24,880
Speaker 2: going to hype him. UP again i also Like. TED

1393
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:27,240
Speaker 2: hurst i Think ted hurst. Is interesting can you scroll

1394
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 2: down a. Little bit last time there was what's his

1395
01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:32,520
Speaker 2: Name From san Diego Or South. Dakota state he's.

1396
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:36,520
Speaker 1: Gone, Though Yeah, bryce lance this is such a. Crazy.

1397
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:38,200
Speaker 1: RECEIVER class i know you guys can't, see This But

1398
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 1: josh CAMERON From Byu, Jeff Caldwell eric rivers are all

1399
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:44,920
Speaker 1: way down. The board i'm a big Fan Of. Josh. Cameron,

1400
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:47,560
Speaker 1: yeah yeah it's they're good. Football players they're GOOD for,

1401
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:49,760
Speaker 1: I mean i don't EVEN think i have to take a.

1402
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:51,920
Speaker 1: Wide receiver it kind of what it feels like when

1403
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:53,480
Speaker 1: you look, At it, you're, LIKE man i could WAIT

1404
01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 1: till i think they're picking again at one. Fifty something, so.

1405
01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:58,280
Speaker 3: Yeah let's let's look.

1406
01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:00,680
Speaker 1: Somewhere else let's, just see let's just see what's. Out

1407
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:05,600
Speaker 1: there WHAT if i did like just overall, You Okay,

1408
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:11,160
Speaker 1: David davison igbinosen at, Their Corner Max claire romelo, height

1409
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 1: interesting it's an edge. Rusher there to kind of get

1410
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 1: somebody that's gonna fill in there for you as a

1411
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:20,960
Speaker 1: pass rush kind, of specialist would be interesting. For Sure

1412
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:23,120
Speaker 1: sam roush. My, GUY.

1413
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 2: Yeah i mean if you're looking at if you're looking at,

1414
01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:30,760
Speaker 2: a center what about Like At jake Slaughter from, florida

1415
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:32,120
Speaker 2: here we both.

1416
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:35,480
Speaker 1: Really, like yeah. DEVELOPMENTAL upside i also like the guy

1417
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:37,280
Speaker 1: is he still on the Board From. Georgia tech scroll

1418
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:41,960
Speaker 1: up a Little. Bit jason see where's? His name? Good

1419
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 1: podcasting right here There. Is rutledge elanuli so again killed,

1420
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:50,840
Speaker 1: the combine. REAL grinder i think could play center inside

1421
01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:54,680
Speaker 1: outside flexibility in terms of like. DOG competitor i like

1422
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:56,960
Speaker 1: him a little bit More than slaughter at. THIS point

1423
01:02:57,120 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 1: i kind of. LIKE this i kind of like going offensive.

1424
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:01,480
Speaker 2: Line here AND now i know we said we want

1425
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 2: to get, a receiver but one of the great Things

1426
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 2: That adam peters did in free agency is making us

1427
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:08,120
Speaker 2: feel like you don't have to you don't have to

1428
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 2: reach for somebody if you feel happy with the wide

1429
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:12,880
Speaker 2: receivers that could potentially fall to you in the next

1430
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:14,520
Speaker 2: couple of picks here in the next couple.

1431
01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:18,080
Speaker 1: Of, ROUNDS yeah i really. Like, HERE yeah I Like kilan,

1432
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:21,280
Speaker 1: rutledge here and again like this is a like a just,

1433
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:22,760
Speaker 1: a gritty blue collar type of.

1434
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:25,360
Speaker 2: Worker, here yeah let's, Do It, keilan rutledge and we're

1435
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:27,400
Speaker 2: Just making Jade and daniels life just that.

1436
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:31,080
Speaker 3: Much easier and so that is if we, trade back which.

1437
01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:33,280
Speaker 2: We did we trade Back With Kansas city chiefs to

1438
01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:35,560
Speaker 2: move up two spots and gave us the twenty ninth

1439
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:39,480
Speaker 2: pick in the seventy fourth We Went, mansur Delane then

1440
01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:42,760
Speaker 2: kadi McDonald in the, first round really really seeming up,

1441
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:47,960
Speaker 2: that Defense Then Mike washington junior the, running back and

1442
01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:50,560
Speaker 2: Then Finally, keelan rutledge the guard Out Of.

1443
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:53,000
Speaker 3: Georgia, tech YEAH and i feel pretty.

1444
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:54,480
Speaker 1: Good here you cook good. About it the Only thing

1445
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:56,800
Speaker 1: i'd say about the McDonald's thing is like they like their,

1446
01:03:57,040 --> 01:03:59,080
Speaker 1: defensive tackles at Least, in minnesota have a little bit.

1447
01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:02,200
Speaker 1: More flexibility so like maybe They Went caleb banks in,

1448
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:05,080
Speaker 1: hypothetical WORLD but i do like the idea of going defensive, tackle.

1449
01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:07,200
Speaker 2: There, right, yeah, NO no i agree, with YOU and

1450
01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:10,000
Speaker 2: i wouldn't be upset at All If caleb banks was the. Choice, there,

1451
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:14,040
Speaker 2: yeah man That was these mock drafts are, always fun

1452
01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:16,920
Speaker 2: just trying. Different things let. Us know if you like what,

1453
01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:19,240
Speaker 2: we did didn't like what, we did maybe we're idiots

1454
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:22,240
Speaker 2: for just Not taking. Carnell, t YEAH but i think

1455
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:25,200
Speaker 2: this is something That watching evans could get really.

1456
01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:27,360
Speaker 1: Excited, about yeah SO. Do, i man it's exciting a lot.

1457
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:31,080
Speaker 1: Of fun but for, that show for, this show. That's

1458
01:04:31,120 --> 01:04:31,160
Speaker 1: it