WEBVTT - Creating a Money Roadmap #051

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to How to Money. I'm Joel and I'm Matt,

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<v Speaker 1>and today we're discussing creating a money roadmap. Joel, what's

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<v Speaker 1>up man? Happy New Year, Happy New Year to you,

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<v Speaker 1>Happy New Year to everyone listening. I hope everyone rang

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<v Speaker 1>it in in style. Unfortunately, our little neighborhood of East

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<v Speaker 1>Atlanta had fireworks at eight pm so I could take

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<v Speaker 1>the girls and didn't have to stay up too late.

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<v Speaker 1>And dude, that actually was organized by a dad in

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<v Speaker 1>the neighborhood. And I was talking to him a few

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<v Speaker 1>weeks ago, and he was talking about how it was

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<v Speaker 1>his intention to be able to have a firework show,

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<v Speaker 1>and before that to go out to eat with his family,

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<v Speaker 1>and so boom, you got dinner with the family, fireworks show,

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<v Speaker 1>then off to bed, get those kids to sleep, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>before the actual real shenanigans, and my and myself to sleep.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's be honest, man, I mean you know, I got

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<v Speaker 1>to bed early. I got a earl. Hey, it's the

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<v Speaker 1>new year. We're we gotta kick off that duo lingo

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<v Speaker 1>challenge each other to that Spanish off. Oh good point.

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<v Speaker 1>How do we measure the results of something like that?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I haven't looked into it yet, so yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well we talked about that in a recent episode where

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<v Speaker 1>amazing free apps that exists out there to learn stuff

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<v Speaker 1>and and too lingoes one of them. I'm sure most

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<v Speaker 1>people out there have heard of it. But you can

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<v Speaker 1>learn a language for free, which is incredible and just

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<v Speaker 1>a game changer. Falls in your court though, So kick

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<v Speaker 1>it off, challenge me, and uh, we'll see see where

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<v Speaker 1>it goes. Do they have like a Words with Friends

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<v Speaker 1>mode on Dual? Then yeah, well that's actually what I

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<v Speaker 1>want to do, right, Yeah, I wanted to do it

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<v Speaker 1>like the old school game boy with the Tetris and

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<v Speaker 1>you could link them. There we go and take the

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<v Speaker 1>little plug and connected to game boys. Do you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm talking about for sure? Yeah? All right, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>see what we can do. It takes me back, all right, Joel.

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<v Speaker 1>And then before we get into the beer, we've got

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<v Speaker 1>a friend of the show, a listener, David out in Seattle.

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<v Speaker 1>He responded to one of our posts about a recent

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<v Speaker 1>episode where we talked about it's how their secondary costs

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<v Speaker 1>associated with pretty much any purchase, and dude, he put

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<v Speaker 1>together a pretty sweet little spreadsheet comparing the secondary costs

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<v Speaker 1>associated with owning a car in Seattle versus all the

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<v Speaker 1>costs associated with him using alternative commuting methods and so

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<v Speaker 1>everything from you know bike maintenance to you know ubers

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<v Speaker 1>to lift zip cars, I guess if they're if they're

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<v Speaker 1>going out of town, that sort of thing. And did

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<v Speaker 1>you see that? Yeah? I appreciated his thoughtfulness in kind

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<v Speaker 1>of listening it all out. And it wasn't any super

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<v Speaker 1>fancy spreadsheet or anything like that. It was basic. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know what it did the it did the job.

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<v Speaker 1>It helped him to see that over five years time,

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<v Speaker 1>if he were to go with buying even a used car,

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<v Speaker 1>even a pretty inexpensive used car, five thousand dollar used car, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>versus alternative commuting options, and it turned out that he

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<v Speaker 1>would save twenty two thousand dollars over a five year

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<v Speaker 1>time period by alternative commuting instead of even buying that

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<v Speaker 1>super cheap used car. So yeah, I love that he

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<v Speaker 1>ran the numbers and took the time to think through

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<v Speaker 1>the secondary cost because the five thousand dollar used car

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<v Speaker 1>that sounds cheap. You got a deal. You're not spending

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<v Speaker 1>hardly anything on transportation. You feel like you're you've conquered

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<v Speaker 1>the world. At that point, right, Yeah, common wisdom says

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<v Speaker 1>if you buy a five thousand dollar used car and

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<v Speaker 1>keep it for five years, you've done a really good job.

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<v Speaker 1>You're that's a frugal win, right for you, and for

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<v Speaker 1>most people that that's true. I think, I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>buying a cheap used car is a good way to go.

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<v Speaker 1>But for David and where he lives and his lifestyle

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<v Speaker 1>and his priorities, how much money he can save in

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<v Speaker 1>just five years by alternative commuting versus buying even that

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<v Speaker 1>cheap used car, it was pretty impressive. I lovely he

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<v Speaker 1>took the time to go through the numbers and and

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<v Speaker 1>draw conclusion and informed conclusion. And that's exactly what we

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<v Speaker 1>were talking about on the secondary cost episode, and just

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<v Speaker 1>knowing what you're getting into before you make the purchase.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's right. So kudos to David for for

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<v Speaker 1>doing that and sharing that on Twitter. If you're on Twitter,

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<v Speaker 1>be sure to give us a follow. We are how

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<v Speaker 1>Some Money pod for the podcast, but then we've got

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<v Speaker 1>our individual accounts as well. I am how Some Money, Matt,

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<v Speaker 1>and obviously Joel is how Some Money. Joel. I was

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<v Speaker 1>had the money Frank, but I changed it up because

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<v Speaker 1>it didn't make any sense, surprise, But yeah, give us

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<v Speaker 1>a follow on there, and we try to interact with

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<v Speaker 1>everyone there and kind of share our thoughts things that

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<v Speaker 1>aren't necessarily worth talking about on the podcast, but we'll

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned stuff out there and various other things too, like

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<v Speaker 1>Aline United soccer, yeah, or tweeting us what your favorite

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<v Speaker 1>brewery is. Actually we do a lot of that, and

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<v Speaker 1>so on that note, we want to also think David

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<v Speaker 1>for sending out the Thick Coffee Porter and that's th

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<v Speaker 1>h I c c is how they spell thick. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what that means, but I love it. And

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<v Speaker 1>this is by Urban Family Brewing Company. What is so

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<v Speaker 1>incredibly awesome about David is that he sent along not

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<v Speaker 1>only this beer, but you send along two pounds of

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<v Speaker 1>coffee that this quarter was brewed with. And this is

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<v Speaker 1>coffee that he roasted himself, because he's the head roaster

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<v Speaker 1>at the coffee company that he works at, Street Bean

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<v Speaker 1>Coffee Roasters in Seattle. And I had had some of

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<v Speaker 1>his coffee this morning, Yeah, in cold brew form, because

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<v Speaker 1>that's how I drink mostly in the morns. Yeah, even

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<v Speaker 1>in the winter, even in the winter. Dude, what is

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<v Speaker 1>wrong with you pushing through it. I'm weird like that,

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<v Speaker 1>what a freak? Yeah, so cold brew coffee. It was delicious.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a little lighter in body. Yeah. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was a medium roast, so it's not like this hardy, dark,

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<v Speaker 1>super smokey roast. It was a real subtle, delicate kind

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<v Speaker 1>of coffee, which was Man, that's a nice way to

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<v Speaker 1>switch it up. But it's still had like a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of interesting flavor profile notes. Even though it was a

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<v Speaker 1>lighter roast, it had a lot going on. And I am,

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<v Speaker 1>by no means a coffee expert, but I really appreciated

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<v Speaker 1>it. It It was really good and I'm really kind of

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<v Speaker 1>excited to see how that coffee influences the taste of

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<v Speaker 1>this beer too. And before you drink it, don't drink

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<v Speaker 1>you edgel. We have to drink it together, dang it.

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<v Speaker 1>Hold On, I wanted to share that the roster that

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<v Speaker 1>he works form, so it's in Seattle, right. We mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>that they specifically are a nonprofit and they provide street

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<v Speaker 1>involved young adults apprenticeships where they are trained and employed

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<v Speaker 1>to be baristas while seeking to exit street life. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean that's straight from their website. I think that's an

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<v Speaker 1>incredible mission, you know, to have a coffee company, which

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<v Speaker 1>are typically for profit, normal companies, but instead they're sort

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<v Speaker 1>of taking a different approach and and finding a way

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<v Speaker 1>to better their community through this business and finding a

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<v Speaker 1>way to impact the lives of those around them that

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<v Speaker 1>are in need. I think it's amazing. Yeah, we did

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<v Speaker 1>that recent episode two on meaningful work. What an amazing

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<v Speaker 1>way to help somebody for the long haul, right is

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<v Speaker 1>to help them find meaningful work. Training and employing someone

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<v Speaker 1>in a meaningful way is so powerful in impacting the

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<v Speaker 1>overall trajectory of their lives. What a cool thing that

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<v Speaker 1>David and his company, Street Being Coffee Roasters are doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Will post a link in the show notes to to

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<v Speaker 1>their website so you can kind of check it out

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more. But I think it's amazing and beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>So again, this is Thick Coffee Porter by Urban Family

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<v Speaker 1>Brewing Company. Urban Family. I actually hopped over on their

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram account and I saw this crazy, the craziest looking

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<v Speaker 1>beer I've ever seen in my life on their feed.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a beer with glitter in it. And you

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<v Speaker 1>and I were just talking about trolls like the movie,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's like glitter, like our girls are into trolls,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they got the glitter farts. Yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>among other things, it's a ridiculous movie, but they think

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<v Speaker 1>that's like the funniest thing of all time when the

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<v Speaker 1>trolls fart glitter. But I've heard of this, and I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know this was a real thing, but they had

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<v Speaker 1>a beer that they put edible glitter in five of

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<v Speaker 1>their beers. They did it like Willy Wonka style, And

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<v Speaker 1>so if you get one of their beers and you

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<v Speaker 1>pour it and it had glitter in it, to report

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<v Speaker 1>to them immediately because you won like a rare rely

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<v Speaker 1>spar and some other things that they're going out not

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<v Speaker 1>too long ago. Isn't that crazy? That's really cool idea. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure how often I would want to drink

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<v Speaker 1>edible glitter, but the fact that you get to actually

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<v Speaker 1>potentially pour beer and realize that you're a winner. Charlie

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<v Speaker 1>and the Chocolate Factory style, I think that's super cool.

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<v Speaker 1>That caught my eye and I loved it. Don't say

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<v Speaker 1>Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. That was the remake with

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<v Speaker 1>Johnny Depp, and it was terrible, you know, like the

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<v Speaker 1>one I thought it was. Okay, dude, Now Willy Wonka

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<v Speaker 1>and the Chocolate Factory, well, the whole horizontal elevator. When

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<v Speaker 1>a movie is one of your favorites of all time,

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<v Speaker 1>like the remake, can't do it justice no matter what.

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<v Speaker 1>I went in with a closed mind to see in

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<v Speaker 1>that movie. Okay, that's why. All right, Matt. So, now

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<v Speaker 1>that we told people about the beer, this thick Coffee

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<v Speaker 1>Porter by Urban Family Brewing Company, give me one word

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<v Speaker 1>you would use to describe it. My single word is black.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought about using thick, since that's what the beer

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<v Speaker 1>is called, but you know, it's a porter, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit thinner. But yeah, my single word is black.

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<v Speaker 1>Our buddy, mine is bold. Bold. You're a bold drinking

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<v Speaker 1>kind of guy. True story. All right. We'll get to

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<v Speaker 1>the explanation behind those words and our tasting notes for

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<v Speaker 1>this beer at the end of the show. But Matt,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get now to the topic of hand creating a

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<v Speaker 1>money road map. And it's the beginning of the year, right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a perfect time for goal setting. And I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know about you, I feel like most of us will

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<v Speaker 1>either set some goals and then we'll quickly screw up, right,

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<v Speaker 1>we won't be able to achieve those goals. By January,

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<v Speaker 1>half of our goals will have already been wiped off

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<v Speaker 1>the face of the earth, never to be remembered again.

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<v Speaker 1>And for someone are getting destroyed. Huh. Yeah. Or maybe

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<v Speaker 1>you're a little more like me and you didn't send

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<v Speaker 1>any goals to begin with, because that's kind of how

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<v Speaker 1>I roll. Oh, that's right, you're like that low ambition.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't send any goals type right, Hey, high ambition,

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<v Speaker 1>no goal setting. Okay, that's right. Loosey goosey. Yeah. I

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<v Speaker 1>go with my gut a little bit more, um, a

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<v Speaker 1>little less likely to set intense goals. I have goals

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<v Speaker 1>there in the back of my mind. I know what

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<v Speaker 1>I want to achieve, but writing them down And like

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<v Speaker 1>my wife, she loved to take like a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>hours and sit down with her notepad and think through

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<v Speaker 1>what her goals for the year are. And for me,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like they're just kind of in my brain

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<v Speaker 1>and I know what I want to accomplish in, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not really writing them down and thinking about them

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<v Speaker 1>very much. Yeah, your goals are in your stomach, like

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<v Speaker 1>you said, in your gut exactly exactly. So we had

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<v Speaker 1>these goals, and just like in other parts of our life,

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<v Speaker 1>we also want to have goals when it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>our finances. A lot of times there's resolutions that are

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<v Speaker 1>set and quickly abandoned, you know, like you mentioned. But

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to talk about a money road map, and

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<v Speaker 1>a big part of a money roadmap is a budget.

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<v Speaker 1>And these are things that basically just tell you what

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<v Speaker 1>to do with your money. Right. It's a necessary tool

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<v Speaker 1>to to help you actually achieve what it is that

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<v Speaker 1>you are setting out to achieve, right, whether it is

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<v Speaker 1>written down or whether it's just sort of in the

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<v Speaker 1>back of your head. And so think about this episode,

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<v Speaker 1>like you were taking a trip from Atlanta to Seattle

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<v Speaker 1>across the country, right, and before ways or Google Maps existed,

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<v Speaker 1>you would have had to do something unthinkable and print

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<v Speaker 1>out a map quest sheet to to to plot your

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<v Speaker 1>trip across the country. And you would, in all likelihood,

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<v Speaker 1>while you were at your dial up computer connection. If

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<v Speaker 1>you don't know what that is, we're not that old. Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but no, but no, I remember dial up connections. Dude, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I remember too, but I wasn't in college doing dial up.

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<v Speaker 1>That's true. All right, but you did print out map

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<v Speaker 1>quest directions and so multiple pages what turn my turn

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<v Speaker 1>exactly exactly? So, so just think about this episode. Is

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<v Speaker 1>that's kind of what we want to do for your

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<v Speaker 1>money is give you an overarching plan of process. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>how you get from Atlanta to Seattle, and your specific

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<v Speaker 1>directions are gonna look a little bit different. Right. We

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<v Speaker 1>don't want you to do things exactly the way we

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<v Speaker 1>do them, but we want you to kind of figure

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<v Speaker 1>out how to create that roadmap so that you have

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<v Speaker 1>a direction and a purpose for your money as you

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<v Speaker 1>begin this new year. It's not all about creating a budget,

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<v Speaker 1>although that's part of what we're going to discuss today,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's something bigger than that. It really is creating

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<v Speaker 1>this money roadmap. Is is more than just you're creating

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<v Speaker 1>a budget and sticking to it. Is thinking with a

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<v Speaker 1>bigger mindset, uh, in mind of what you want to accomplish,

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<v Speaker 1>not just this year, but how you want to change

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<v Speaker 1>course really when it comes to your personal finances. Yea,

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<v Speaker 1>so my mind is still stuck on ways. Sorry, but

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<v Speaker 1>do you ever use the boy band setting? No? I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know it existed. You didn't know that, yeah, said

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<v Speaker 1>there's different voice options. You've never heard the boy band.

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<v Speaker 1>It's hilarious. It's like in one mile turn right, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean what it sounds like it's Stephen Colbert imitating a

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<v Speaker 1>boy band and then giving Ways directions. Which Ways had

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<v Speaker 1>Stephen Colbert on there for a minute right when he

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<v Speaker 1>first launched the show. Oh did it really? Yeah? And

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<v Speaker 1>I think they had Mr T like they've had different voices. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're right, that's super funny. My wife refuses to use

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<v Speaker 1>Ways and sticks to Google Maps, and I don't understand it.

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<v Speaker 1>I understand Google Maps for certain things, but there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of benefit that Ways has man even though it's

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<v Speaker 1>owned by Google. It's amazing that they still remain separate entities.

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<v Speaker 1>But four now, but just a public call out to

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<v Speaker 1>my wife to pick up your game on that. Knowing

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<v Speaker 1>your money roadmap also gives you freedom to spend right,

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<v Speaker 1>and so aside from setting financial goals and keeping your

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<v Speaker 1>spending in check, dude, for us, the biggest reason that

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<v Speaker 1>we create a budget is to free ourselves to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to spend on things just throughout the month without

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<v Speaker 1>feeling any sense of guilt. Kate, my wife especially resonates

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<v Speaker 1>with this, but I do as well. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to have the thought that I could be

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<v Speaker 1>saving more hanging over my head while I'm like out

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<v Speaker 1>getting beers. And not only that, but it frees up

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<v Speaker 1>my mind and not have to do quick math in

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<v Speaker 1>my head, which I'm honestly pretty terrible at. You just

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<v Speaker 1>get to follow the plan that you set out before you.

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<v Speaker 1>And when you kind of just stick to that plane,

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<v Speaker 1>he sticks to that map. You don't have to make

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<v Speaker 1>these in the moment decisions where you might be likely

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<v Speaker 1>to fail or that if you don't do it, you

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<v Speaker 1>kind of feel guilty, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, buddy,

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<v Speaker 1>Just like heading down I eight five south is not

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<v Speaker 1>the quickest way to get to Seattle from Atlanta. Like

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<v Speaker 1>you're going the wrong direction, Pully, you turn, get off

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<v Speaker 1>of the nearest exit and and start going north right.

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<v Speaker 1>So in the same way that not having a roadmap

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<v Speaker 1>for a road trip pre ways times of course, can

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<v Speaker 1>end up with a long trek, potentially in the wrong direction.

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<v Speaker 1>Not having this money roadmap and those financial goals laid

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<v Speaker 1>out doesn't give you the freedom to spend in the

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<v Speaker 1>areas that are meaningful to you. And that's sucks, and

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<v Speaker 1>so let's talk about the specific tips for creating this

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<v Speaker 1>money roadmap in the new year right after the break.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Joe, let's goad and kick it off. We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna cover now some tips on creating a money roadmap

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<v Speaker 1>for the new year. The first thing that you want

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<v Speaker 1>to do is to track your expenses. If you don't

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<v Speaker 1>already have a budget, you gotta track your spending. That

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be the best way to get that

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<v Speaker 1>budget started. And you know, you really can't create a

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<v Speaker 1>well thought out roadmap without knowing where you've been what

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<v Speaker 1>you spent money on. By reviewing you're spending from the

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<v Speaker 1>previous year, you can allow that to inform your budget

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<v Speaker 1>and your goals for the new year. And when you

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<v Speaker 1>have those goals set, you're able to flesh out your budget,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, with purpose, with meaning, and it's something that

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<v Speaker 1>you can really get behind. Yeah, man, I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>tracking your expenses is actually probably personal finance rule number one,

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<v Speaker 1>because if you don't know where your money is going,

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<v Speaker 1>then you don't know how to make changes, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>know how to act accordingly. And in order to create

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<v Speaker 1>a money roadmap for the future, you have to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of know the expenses that are currently going on in

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<v Speaker 1>your life, so that tracking is crucial. Yeah. Man, that's

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<v Speaker 1>how you gather information, right. It's like, if you're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to hit a certain weight, you have to have a scale.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to start measuring now and know what it

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<v Speaker 1>is that you're trying to achieve. You have to have

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<v Speaker 1>the tools that will allow you to reach that goal.

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<v Speaker 1>So in light of that, taking a look, especially at

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest expenses that you had last year, it's really important.

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<v Speaker 1>It helps you plan ahead for the potential biggest expenses

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<v Speaker 1>that you'll have this year. I feel like usually for people,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a big ticket item here or there that can

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<v Speaker 1>completely throw them off their budget game. And by looking

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<v Speaker 1>at those expenses when they occurred, what they were for

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<v Speaker 1>that threw you off your budget potentially last year, it

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<v Speaker 1>can help you apportion your money properly for this year

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<v Speaker 1>and also actually budget for some of those bigger ticket

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<v Speaker 1>items that are recurring but it ended up blindsiding you anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>And in particular, looking back at your credit card statements

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<v Speaker 1>or at a budget tracking tool like Mint can help

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<v Speaker 1>you to see all of your expenses in one place,

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<v Speaker 1>so you can kind of quickly identify what those major

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<v Speaker 1>expenses were. Yeah, and those bigger expenses like that, man,

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<v Speaker 1>Like those are honestly the easier ones to address an

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<v Speaker 1>attack because you can take those, you can break them

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<v Speaker 1>up in the monthly payments that you set aside or

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<v Speaker 1>earmark for that specific expense. And so I'm thinking of

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<v Speaker 1>something boring like car insurance, like it's a yearly thing

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<v Speaker 1>because obviously you pay once a year because you get

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<v Speaker 1>that discount what's up. And if you divide that out

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<v Speaker 1>by twelve, you've got your monthly payment and you're paying

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<v Speaker 1>that to yourself. You're just setting it aside, and that way,

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<v Speaker 1>when the bill comes, you've got that amount there for

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<v Speaker 1>you ready to go, and it doesn't get you by surprise,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're not having to dip into any other funds

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<v Speaker 1>in order to go ahead and pay that bill and

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<v Speaker 1>get that discount. Yeah. But a lot of people let

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<v Speaker 1>an expense like that completely blindside them, even though it

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<v Speaker 1>is something that they could have plan for a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit better, that's right, man. And so that's like a

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<v Speaker 1>boring example, but something even that's more fun in right.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I've mentioned before that I've got my site set

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<v Speaker 1>on sort of a family road trip that I would

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<v Speaker 1>like to take my family on this coming summer. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's something that I can go ahead and estimate the cost.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know exactly how much it's gonna cost, but

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<v Speaker 1>I can go ahead and decide that, you know, we're

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<v Speaker 1>probably gonna spend about this much. Or I can decide

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<v Speaker 1>this is how much we will spend. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>can just set a budget, and by dividing that out

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<v Speaker 1>between now and then, I know how much I can

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<v Speaker 1>set aside monthly. That way, when the time comes, it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't quite feel nearly as difficult. And so that's really

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<v Speaker 1>important that to know that this isn't just a reactive

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<v Speaker 1>or passive activity where you're reacting to last year's bills,

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<v Speaker 1>but this is something that you can be proactive about.

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<v Speaker 1>We want you to look ahead at the coming year

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<v Speaker 1>and dream about what it is that you want to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to do with your money, whether that's save

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<v Speaker 1>up for a down payment on a house, maybe pay

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<v Speaker 1>off that car with a high interest rate, take a

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<v Speaker 1>trip to visit relatives, or even putting together an emergency

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<v Speaker 1>fund that you've never been able to do before. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's important that with those goals to be specific

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<v Speaker 1>because it's really hard to make any progress if you

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<v Speaker 1>have just a general goal saving more money. Right, that's

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<v Speaker 1>of course, like we all want to do that, but

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<v Speaker 1>without the specific goals in mind, it becomes so much

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<v Speaker 1>harder to make any progress. Yeah, and just putting a

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<v Speaker 1>name on something, right, Like if you know that the

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<v Speaker 1>reason that we're saving is because we want to take

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<v Speaker 1>this vacation or I want to be able to own

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<v Speaker 1>my car outright by a certain period of time. If

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<v Speaker 1>you know that this is why I'm saving, this is

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<v Speaker 1>why we're sitting inside this money. All of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>it has a face, it has a name. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>just you feeling like you're being cheap all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>It's you've identified a goal and you're doing all that

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<v Speaker 1>you can to to achieve that, and that's just so important. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So those are bigger, maybe more grandiose, larger goals that

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<v Speaker 1>you have in life, Joel, what about like smaller goals

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<v Speaker 1>that that you might want to achieve? Yeah, man, I

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<v Speaker 1>think big goals are awesome, right, And we feel like

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<v Speaker 1>we can gain a lot of ground in a shorter

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<v Speaker 1>amount of time by having super big goals. And I

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<v Speaker 1>love having one or two big goals every year that

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<v Speaker 1>I really want to accomplish, whether it's you know, by

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<v Speaker 1>another investment property, or take a trip to visit a

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<v Speaker 1>relative that you know I have and seen in a

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<v Speaker 1>long time. Those are awesome, But I think there's so

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<v Speaker 1>much power in the small changes that we can make, too,

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<v Speaker 1>and we don't focus enough on that. Ultimately, making small

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<v Speaker 1>incremental changes in your financial life can have a huge

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<v Speaker 1>effect over a long period of time. And there's a

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<v Speaker 1>fancy term for this. It's called the aggregation of marginal gains. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>so consider setting a goal to increase your four oh

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<v Speaker 1>and K contribution by like one per cent, and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>do that every six months or every year, even if

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<v Speaker 1>you find it difficult to do it every six months.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a small move that you can make right

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<v Speaker 1>now that has almost no impact on your take home pay,

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<v Speaker 1>but begins to over time compound on itself and begin

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<v Speaker 1>to bring you towards uh an area, a place of

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<v Speaker 1>greater financial freedom. So I love the idea of making

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<v Speaker 1>small changes in your life, whether it is deciding that

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to bring your lunch to work every day

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<v Speaker 1>next year, or attempting to bit to work one day

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<v Speaker 1>a week, right, whatever it is, making a small change

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<v Speaker 1>can over time have a large effect. It's so much

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<v Speaker 1>more rewarding to tackle a big goal and knock it

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<v Speaker 1>out right, but that's also much harder to do. The

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<v Speaker 1>easy things are the small things, and those are the

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<v Speaker 1>things that I feel like if you will focus on

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<v Speaker 1>a few small things in twenty nineteen, a few changes

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<v Speaker 1>that you can make, that you're you're well on your

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<v Speaker 1>way to creating a money roadmap that brings you to

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<v Speaker 1>your final destination in fine fashion. But if you can't

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<v Speaker 1>change those small things, you're gonna have a really hard

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<v Speaker 1>time tackling any of the big things that we just

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<v Speaker 1>talked about, either man. And that's just what's so awesome

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<v Speaker 1>as well, right with even big goals, is that by

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<v Speaker 1>creating that money roadmap, that you break those larger goals

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<v Speaker 1>down into smaller pieces. And just like you said, like

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<v Speaker 1>having those small, bite sized pieces that are manageable and

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<v Speaker 1>that you can accomplish and succeed at doing month after

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<v Speaker 1>month like that is how you achieve ultimate success. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's how you really achieve not only the small goal

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<v Speaker 1>month a month, but also those bigger goals like we mentioned, yeah, Matt,

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<v Speaker 1>and keeping it simple is another huge part of creating

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<v Speaker 1>a money roadmap. Every goal that you have or every

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<v Speaker 1>change that you want to make doesn't have to be

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<v Speaker 1>this major monumental effort. It doesn't have to be this

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<v Speaker 1>major change that you make to your finances because that's

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<v Speaker 1>just not the way things work for us most of

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<v Speaker 1>the time, right. And the more difficult it is to

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<v Speaker 1>create this goal or this destination on your money roadmap,

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<v Speaker 1>the more likely you are to skip it all together.

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<v Speaker 1>So make sure it's a task or something that you

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<v Speaker 1>can handle. You're looking for progress, not a miracle, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So often you can kind of get bogged down with

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<v Speaker 1>the details and you end up not taking any action

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<v Speaker 1>at all. So I think like one of the simplest

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<v Speaker 1>and easiest ways that someone could do that is to

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<v Speaker 1>do cash. This isn't something I do personally, But if

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<v Speaker 1>you are looking for ways to curb you're spending, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're looking for ways to keep things incredibly simple and

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<v Speaker 1>that you know that, Okay, I only want to spend

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<v Speaker 1>say this month on groceries for myself or you really

0:22:00.119 --> 0:22:02.080
<v Speaker 1>is that, man? I spend a ton of money going

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<v Speaker 1>out to eat every every single month. Set aside a

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<v Speaker 1>specific dollar amount. A lot of times people will refer

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<v Speaker 1>to this as the cash envelope system. Figure out whatever

0:22:11.480 --> 0:22:13.159
<v Speaker 1>it is that might work for you. You know, it

0:22:13.240 --> 0:22:15.639
<v Speaker 1>helps to know yourself and to know what has worked

0:22:15.680 --> 0:22:19.520
<v Speaker 1>in the past. We just don't want you to overcomplicate things. Yeah, man,

0:22:19.560 --> 0:22:21.560
<v Speaker 1>I truly think that that's one of the reasons that

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<v Speaker 1>most people either a don't get started with budgeting or

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<v Speaker 1>tracking their expenses or really starting to create like this

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<v Speaker 1>larger this bigger money roadmap. It's because they overcomplicated in

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<v Speaker 1>their mind and they think that to get started that

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<v Speaker 1>has to be complex. And I really think that it

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<v Speaker 1>can be simple. That you can make a few small changes,

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<v Speaker 1>that you can create even just a few small goals

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<v Speaker 1>and get started. I think that the value in getting started,

0:22:48.119 --> 0:22:51.959
<v Speaker 1>even when it's small, is completely undervalued. It's such an

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<v Speaker 1>important thing for us as humans to get started in

0:22:55.320 --> 0:22:57.280
<v Speaker 1>the right direction, to get off on the right foot,

0:22:57.560 --> 0:23:01.840
<v Speaker 1>and that almost breeds the ability to take on more

0:23:01.880 --> 0:23:05.160
<v Speaker 1>complex things later on. But right now, I mean, start simple.

0:23:05.160 --> 0:23:08.080
<v Speaker 1>If you feel like you're on square one, hey, that's okay,

0:23:08.400 --> 0:23:11.199
<v Speaker 1>Like start and start simple. The act of making a

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<v Speaker 1>little progress almost ensures that you're gonna make more progress

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<v Speaker 1>further down the road, hey man, and speaking of simplification, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna take a quick break, but right after that

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna cover a specific tip that will allow you

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<v Speaker 1>to definitely keep things simple in addition to creating and

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<v Speaker 1>then sticking to your money roadmap. All right, Matt, back

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<v Speaker 1>in the break. My favorite way to keep it simple

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<v Speaker 1>is to put it on autopilot. Create a system where

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<v Speaker 1>you literally pay yourself first. So like we're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>with the four wind k contributions, it becomes automatic. You

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<v Speaker 1>add one percent to your contribution level every six months

0:23:54.880 --> 0:23:57.480
<v Speaker 1>or every year. If you can't handle six months, it's automatic.

0:23:57.760 --> 0:23:59.960
<v Speaker 1>Or you can create a separate savings account where part

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<v Speaker 1>off your paycheck goes that way, you don't even see it.

0:24:02.320 --> 0:24:04.760
<v Speaker 1>That's like a forced method of savings, a way of

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<v Speaker 1>building up an emergency fund. Autopilot can be a way

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<v Speaker 1>to take your fickle moods or desires out of the

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<v Speaker 1>process of creating this money roadmap. That does sound like

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<v Speaker 1>a wonderful tip if you had an actual paycheck. Oh

0:24:15.840 --> 0:24:18.000
<v Speaker 1>you make money, please, Yeah, I mean I make money,

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<v Speaker 1>but it doesn't come in the form of an actual paycheck,

0:24:20.359 --> 0:24:22.720
<v Speaker 1>Like I don't get a paycheck with a stub. Everybody

0:24:22.720 --> 0:24:25.199
<v Speaker 1>talks about these pay dubs. What does that even look like?

0:24:25.240 --> 0:24:27.959
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. So do you feel like there's no

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<v Speaker 1>autopilot system that works for you because the way that

0:24:30.119 --> 0:24:32.520
<v Speaker 1>you get paid. Yeah, man, that's that's a big challenge

0:24:32.520 --> 0:24:35.600
<v Speaker 1>of being self employed is just not having for me,

0:24:35.680 --> 0:24:38.159
<v Speaker 1>specifically not having a steady income, and so you can't

0:24:38.200 --> 0:24:41.000
<v Speaker 1>say you can't automate, and you can't designate a certain

0:24:41.040 --> 0:24:45.000
<v Speaker 1>portion of your paycheck to go into whatever brokerage it

0:24:45.080 --> 0:24:47.520
<v Speaker 1>is that you've got your money invested through. So it

0:24:47.560 --> 0:24:50.200
<v Speaker 1>makes it tough. But at the same time, there's there's

0:24:50.280 --> 0:24:52.040
<v Speaker 1>upsides to it too, right, And so when I do

0:24:52.200 --> 0:24:54.320
<v Speaker 1>save and when I do invest, I'm doing it very

0:24:54.359 --> 0:24:57.320
<v Speaker 1>actively and because that, I'm very aware of what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>saving and when I'm not spending my money on. So

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there's ups and downs for sure. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>can see why it is a little bit harder to

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<v Speaker 1>come up with an autopilot kind of system for someone

0:25:06.920 --> 0:25:10.080
<v Speaker 1>who's paychecks are a little more erratic, maybe a really

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<v Speaker 1>big one this month and you maybe don't earn nearly

0:25:12.480 --> 0:25:15.600
<v Speaker 1>as much next month. That's that's harder to to budget

0:25:15.680 --> 0:25:18.360
<v Speaker 1>and it's harder to autopilot any sort of investing our savings.

0:25:18.680 --> 0:25:21.520
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I could see it taking more intentionality and

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<v Speaker 1>the ability just to to make sure you do put

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<v Speaker 1>aside a bigger chunk in the months that are good. Yeah. Man,

0:25:26.359 --> 0:25:28.880
<v Speaker 1>that's how Kate and I do it. And on that note,

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<v Speaker 1>our next tip is to don't go it alone. If

0:25:32.119 --> 0:25:35.119
<v Speaker 1>you have a spouse or a significant other, it's really

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<v Speaker 1>really helpful to set goals together so that you are

0:25:38.760 --> 0:25:42.160
<v Speaker 1>both on board and that you're not just one part

0:25:42.160 --> 0:25:44.080
<v Speaker 1>of the relationship trying to do these things that the

0:25:44.119 --> 0:25:46.960
<v Speaker 1>other side doesn't. You're not gonna get very far, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you don't have a significant other or a spouse,

0:25:50.080 --> 0:25:52.000
<v Speaker 1>you could try to get friends to do their own

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<v Speaker 1>budget or set their own goals and have their own

0:25:55.359 --> 0:25:58.040
<v Speaker 1>money roadmap to hold each other accountable. This is something

0:25:58.040 --> 0:26:00.240
<v Speaker 1>you can do together. You can encourage each other there

0:26:00.480 --> 0:26:02.760
<v Speaker 1>and just talk about it. Just the act of talking

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<v Speaker 1>about it and encouraging each other can go so far

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to making progress with your finances. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>For some reason, I'm getting the image of my mind

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<v Speaker 1>of like a three legged race. And if you're doing

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<v Speaker 1>this money roadmap, with your spouse or a significant other,

0:26:18.080 --> 0:26:19.879
<v Speaker 1>and you guys just aren't on the same page. You

0:26:19.920 --> 0:26:22.440
<v Speaker 1>don't have the same goals in mind, you're not headed

0:26:22.440 --> 0:26:24.480
<v Speaker 1>in the same direction. I mean, it's really hard to

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<v Speaker 1>run it through. Yeah, you're you're bound for misfortune, I think.

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<v Speaker 1>So it really is important, I think to make these

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<v Speaker 1>plans together. It's important to have your own personal goals

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<v Speaker 1>aside from your goals as a couple. But if you're

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<v Speaker 1>on a road trip together, right in the same car,

0:26:40.440 --> 0:26:43.960
<v Speaker 1>heading towards the same destination, you're both can have opinions

0:26:43.960 --> 0:26:45.920
<v Speaker 1>about how to get there and where you should stop.

0:26:46.320 --> 0:26:48.359
<v Speaker 1>And I feel like the same thing is true of

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<v Speaker 1>a money roadmap. As a couple. You both should have

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<v Speaker 1>influence and it's important to sit down together to set

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<v Speaker 1>those goals, to think through your money roadmap, because you'll

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<v Speaker 1>each be able to help each other when the going

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<v Speaker 1>get stuff and encourage one another when you have successes

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<v Speaker 1>along the way. So on the note of roadmap, I

0:27:06.000 --> 0:27:08.320
<v Speaker 1>just remembered how I used to have roadmap that I

0:27:08.359 --> 0:27:10.280
<v Speaker 1>would keep in my car when I went off to college,

0:27:10.359 --> 0:27:11.960
<v Speaker 1>that I kept under the seat, and it was one

0:27:11.960 --> 0:27:13.920
<v Speaker 1>of those big ones. The rain McNally's Like, you mentioned

0:27:14.000 --> 0:27:16.600
<v Speaker 1>map quest earlier, but did you ever have an actual

0:27:16.600 --> 0:27:19.680
<v Speaker 1>atlas like a United States ryand McNally In my case,

0:27:19.760 --> 0:27:23.280
<v Speaker 1>I think it was two thousand four rayand McNally roadmap.

0:27:23.400 --> 0:27:25.399
<v Speaker 1>I don't think so. No. I don't feel like I

0:27:25.480 --> 0:27:29.480
<v Speaker 1>ever had a true, actual outlats. Yeah. I don't feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I ever had to do a road trip with

0:27:31.200 --> 0:27:33.440
<v Speaker 1>one of those. And I feel like there's something about

0:27:33.480 --> 0:27:34.840
<v Speaker 1>just opening the map and be like, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>go here. Another tip not on creating your money roadmap,

0:27:39.040 --> 0:27:41.800
<v Speaker 1>but on sticking to it, and that is to not

0:27:41.920 --> 0:27:45.119
<v Speaker 1>lose sight of your numbers. And what I'm talking about, dude,

0:27:45.160 --> 0:27:47.720
<v Speaker 1>is literally, don't lose sight if your numbers. If you're

0:27:47.800 --> 0:27:50.919
<v Speaker 1>using Mint or another budgeting app like that, pull it

0:27:50.920 --> 0:27:53.320
<v Speaker 1>out of your utilities folder and actually put it on

0:27:53.320 --> 0:27:56.280
<v Speaker 1>your phones homescreen. Maybe you can replace it with an

0:27:56.320 --> 0:27:58.600
<v Speaker 1>app that you know you use often, or if you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go old school and you've got it written out

0:28:00.760 --> 0:28:02.399
<v Speaker 1>on paper, you can make copies and print it out

0:28:02.440 --> 0:28:04.320
<v Speaker 1>and put it all over your place. You want to

0:28:04.400 --> 0:28:06.760
<v Speaker 1>have it there as a reminder of what you're achieving

0:28:06.800 --> 0:28:09.560
<v Speaker 1>and what you're striving. After I found that personally, it's

0:28:09.600 --> 0:28:12.400
<v Speaker 1>just incredibly helpful just to have that goal, that numerical

0:28:12.480 --> 0:28:15.320
<v Speaker 1>goal set there right before you. Or if it's just

0:28:15.400 --> 0:28:17.360
<v Speaker 1>a certain spending amount that you know you can't go over,

0:28:17.480 --> 0:28:21.000
<v Speaker 1>if it's something that you're revisiting often, well, you're going

0:28:21.040 --> 0:28:23.040
<v Speaker 1>to be more likely to stick to it. And so

0:28:23.080 --> 0:28:26.160
<v Speaker 1>when it comes to budgeting and creating that money a roadmap,

0:28:26.200 --> 0:28:29.479
<v Speaker 1>make sure it's something that is accessible and that's always

0:28:29.520 --> 0:28:32.080
<v Speaker 1>there right in front of you. Yea. So speaking of that, Matt,

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<v Speaker 1>there's an app called dollar Bird that I just found

0:28:34.680 --> 0:28:37.399
<v Speaker 1>out about recently, and I think it's really cool because

0:28:37.440 --> 0:28:40.160
<v Speaker 1>it kind of works on a calendar type system. It

0:28:40.360 --> 0:28:43.080
<v Speaker 1>is an app that doesn't hook up like Mint to

0:28:43.080 --> 0:28:45.480
<v Speaker 1>your accounts, so people that are worried about privacy, you

0:28:45.480 --> 0:28:47.720
<v Speaker 1>don't have to worry about that. Whereas Mint has the

0:28:47.760 --> 0:28:50.200
<v Speaker 1>credentials to your accounts and and pulls all the information.

0:28:50.280 --> 0:28:53.040
<v Speaker 1>In dollar Bird is completely unlike that. What you do

0:28:53.160 --> 0:28:56.760
<v Speaker 1>is you manually enter the purchases that you make on

0:28:56.880 --> 0:28:59.520
<v Speaker 1>the dollar Bird app, so there's no need to connect

0:28:59.520 --> 0:29:01.520
<v Speaker 1>your accounts, which is cool. And there's something kind of

0:29:01.640 --> 0:29:04.880
<v Speaker 1>visceral about typing in the amount that you're spending at

0:29:04.920 --> 0:29:07.200
<v Speaker 1>a particular place on the app. I could see it

0:29:07.200 --> 0:29:10.080
<v Speaker 1>almost like as a spending aversion tool at the at

0:29:10.120 --> 0:29:13.920
<v Speaker 1>the same time as tracking your spending because you almost

0:29:14.040 --> 0:29:16.520
<v Speaker 1>decide that maybe that three dollar coffee isn't worth it

0:29:16.520 --> 0:29:18.800
<v Speaker 1>because I'm have to pull up my phone and type

0:29:18.800 --> 0:29:22.760
<v Speaker 1>in that expenditure. So I think dollar Birds seems really cool.

0:29:22.840 --> 0:29:25.000
<v Speaker 1>You can see it kind of gives you an overall

0:29:25.160 --> 0:29:28.000
<v Speaker 1>view of where your finances are going and at the

0:29:28.040 --> 0:29:31.480
<v Speaker 1>same time tracks individual expenses like really well, so we'll

0:29:31.480 --> 0:29:33.880
<v Speaker 1>put a link to to that app. It's for iOS

0:29:34.000 --> 0:29:36.120
<v Speaker 1>and for Android in the show notes. But but I

0:29:36.200 --> 0:29:38.520
<v Speaker 1>kind of like where that app is going, and I

0:29:38.520 --> 0:29:40.760
<v Speaker 1>feel like you can help a lot of people, especially

0:29:40.760 --> 0:29:44.240
<v Speaker 1>people who are in the beginning stages of creating a

0:29:44.240 --> 0:29:48.760
<v Speaker 1>money roadmap and in particular need help with that tracking

0:29:48.880 --> 0:29:51.440
<v Speaker 1>capability that we mentioned a little bit earlier on in

0:29:51.480 --> 0:29:54.120
<v Speaker 1>the show. Other absolute we have talked about, you know,

0:29:54.120 --> 0:29:56.320
<v Speaker 1>we've already mentioned on the show, but mints, a lot

0:29:56.360 --> 0:29:58.720
<v Speaker 1>of folks love and use you need to budget, and

0:29:58.840 --> 0:30:00.320
<v Speaker 1>some folks out there are still like me and go

0:30:00.400 --> 0:30:03.560
<v Speaker 1>old school and just punch it out in an Excel file. Personally,

0:30:03.600 --> 0:30:06.680
<v Speaker 1>I tattoo each expense on my arm. And because it

0:30:06.720 --> 0:30:10.160
<v Speaker 1>takes so long and it's so painful, it's a true

0:30:10.400 --> 0:30:13.000
<v Speaker 1>it's it truly keeps me from wanting to spend money. Yeah,

0:30:13.320 --> 0:30:16.640
<v Speaker 1>Memento style right exactly, with like a pen and just

0:30:16.680 --> 0:30:21.400
<v Speaker 1>digging in. I will never forget. But truly, Matt creating

0:30:21.480 --> 0:30:23.480
<v Speaker 1>a money roadmap right. There are a lot of tips

0:30:23.480 --> 0:30:25.960
<v Speaker 1>that we've given in this episode, but it's so important

0:30:25.960 --> 0:30:29.200
<v Speaker 1>to keep that destination where you're going at the forefront.

0:30:29.440 --> 0:30:31.400
<v Speaker 1>Are you trying to get to a place where you

0:30:31.440 --> 0:30:34.080
<v Speaker 1>don't have to worry about money anymore, that's an amazing goal.

0:30:34.400 --> 0:30:37.040
<v Speaker 1>Are you looking to change careers or do you have

0:30:37.080 --> 0:30:40.560
<v Speaker 1>the lofty goal of achieving financial independence in a shorter

0:30:40.600 --> 0:30:43.680
<v Speaker 1>amount of time than most people. Whatever your destination is,

0:30:43.720 --> 0:30:47.080
<v Speaker 1>whatever that end goal is on your money roadmap, that

0:30:47.200 --> 0:30:49.280
<v Speaker 1>is something that you're gonna want to keep at the forefront,

0:30:49.320 --> 0:30:53.800
<v Speaker 1>consistently remembering where going, why you're going there, and what

0:30:54.000 --> 0:30:57.440
<v Speaker 1>exciting lays ahead. I feel like, however, you can put

0:30:57.440 --> 0:30:59.760
<v Speaker 1>that in front of yourself, whether it's a message on

0:31:00.040 --> 0:31:02.920
<v Speaker 1>a mirror while you're brushing your teeth every morning, whatever

0:31:02.920 --> 0:31:05.400
<v Speaker 1>it is that's going to keep that end destination at

0:31:05.400 --> 0:31:08.920
<v Speaker 1>the forefront. Often in your life, a calendar reminder to

0:31:08.960 --> 0:31:11.520
<v Speaker 1>have that conversation with your significant other or with your

0:31:11.520 --> 0:31:14.640
<v Speaker 1>best friend once a month over a beer that's gonna

0:31:14.640 --> 0:31:18.640
<v Speaker 1>help you find success as you tackle the smaller goals

0:31:18.680 --> 0:31:21.720
<v Speaker 1>on your way to reaching your destination. All right, Joel,

0:31:21.960 --> 0:31:25.160
<v Speaker 1>let's get back to some some tasting notes. Alright, So, Matt,

0:31:25.160 --> 0:31:28.640
<v Speaker 1>we're drinking the thick th h I C C Coffee

0:31:28.680 --> 0:31:31.240
<v Speaker 1>Porter by Urban Family Brewing Company, given to us by

0:31:31.280 --> 0:31:34.520
<v Speaker 1>our new friend friend of the show, David David in Seattle,

0:31:34.800 --> 0:31:37.000
<v Speaker 1>David in Seattle. And the word I gave for this

0:31:37.080 --> 0:31:40.360
<v Speaker 1>beer at the beginning of the show was bold, bold.

0:31:40.600 --> 0:31:43.320
<v Speaker 1>And the reason I said bold was because it really

0:31:43.400 --> 0:31:46.760
<v Speaker 1>was his bold in your face coffee flavor. I thoroughly

0:31:46.920 --> 0:31:49.840
<v Speaker 1>enjoyed the beer. Uh, A porter is not my typical

0:31:49.840 --> 0:31:52.960
<v Speaker 1>go to style, but a coffee porter really kind of

0:31:53.560 --> 0:31:55.640
<v Speaker 1>amps it up. Get some buy in for me? Yeah,

0:31:55.840 --> 0:31:57.560
<v Speaker 1>because I love I love me some coffee and a

0:31:57.560 --> 0:32:01.440
<v Speaker 1>coffee beer. Because it's had such bowl coffee flavors, it

0:32:01.640 --> 0:32:04.960
<v Speaker 1>really piqued my interest and I man, I thoroughly enjoyed it. Yeah. Man.

0:32:05.000 --> 0:32:07.520
<v Speaker 1>For me, my word was black And the reason I

0:32:07.520 --> 0:32:11.600
<v Speaker 1>said that was because not only was this a coffee porter,

0:32:11.720 --> 0:32:14.080
<v Speaker 1>but it was a black coffee porter in the sense

0:32:14.120 --> 0:32:17.000
<v Speaker 1>that didn't have sugar or cream in it. It was

0:32:17.560 --> 0:32:20.640
<v Speaker 1>a little bit bitter, kind of had like those bitter

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<v Speaker 1>chocolate notes going on for it, but it was still

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<v Speaker 1>really balanced in a really enjoyable porter. I guess lately

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<v Speaker 1>we've had some more barrel aged stouts and porters things

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<v Speaker 1>like that, where the sweeter variety. Yeah, it imparts a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of sugar, which I do naturally like or I'm

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<v Speaker 1>drawn to. But it's also good to have something like

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<v Speaker 1>this where you realize, oh, I don't necessarily need all

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<v Speaker 1>that flavor and sugar going on in order for me

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<v Speaker 1>to enjoy this beer. I thought this was fantastic, and

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<v Speaker 1>yet again, it's always nice having a dark beer like

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<v Speaker 1>this in the wintertime and the cold, dark winter months.

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<v Speaker 1>It feels exceptionally appropriate. Although I'm not gonna be upset

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<v Speaker 1>when spring comes around. Okay, I'll be fine real quick.

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<v Speaker 1>What would you rate this beer on on tap? So

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<v Speaker 1>I think I'd give it a three point seven five.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right in my wheelhouse of like super freaking solid beers.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm with you. I'll say three seven five solid awesome beer.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure we'll ever get the chance to drink

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<v Speaker 1>this again Urban Family Brewing, And if you're ever in

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<v Speaker 1>the Seattle area, be sure to check out Street Being

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<v Speaker 1>as well. They've got an awesome mission going on there

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe you'll you'll meet our friend David. All Right, Matt,

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<v Speaker 1>let's wrap it up with our favorite takeaways from this episode.

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<v Speaker 1>And for me, Man, having clear goals actually allows you

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<v Speaker 1>to have freedom to spend on the things that matter

0:33:30.160 --> 0:33:32.880
<v Speaker 1>to you the most, and I think when you're creating

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<v Speaker 1>a money roadmap, that's an important thing to remember, because

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<v Speaker 1>it's easy to try to clamp down on everything. But

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<v Speaker 1>part of the reason, right that we drink a beer

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<v Speaker 1>every episode is because it's something that matters to us

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<v Speaker 1>a lot, and we don't mind putting our money where

0:33:46.040 --> 0:33:48.520
<v Speaker 1>our mouth is in that regard, and we save well

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<v Speaker 1>in a bunch of other areas. So just remembering that

0:33:51.200 --> 0:33:53.920
<v Speaker 1>having clear goals can give you that freedom to spend

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<v Speaker 1>on the things that really truly do matter to you

0:33:56.440 --> 0:33:58.960
<v Speaker 1>is an important reason why you should be creating a

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<v Speaker 1>money roadmap. And another thing is that you want a

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<v Speaker 1>plan for the big expenses, and these are things that

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<v Speaker 1>might be boring, things that you kind of have to pay.

0:34:07.640 --> 0:34:10.120
<v Speaker 1>I mentioned car insurance. It's something that you have to

0:34:10.280 --> 0:34:13.080
<v Speaker 1>pay and you're acquired by law too. And also the

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<v Speaker 1>things that are just way more exciting, the things that

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to shape your summers around, or something that

0:34:18.200 --> 0:34:20.960
<v Speaker 1>you know you've got your sites set on, say this fall.

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<v Speaker 1>When you have a goal like Joel mentioned before, and

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<v Speaker 1>you have a time frame, then you can easily break

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<v Speaker 1>down that bigger goal into these smaller, bite sized chunks

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<v Speaker 1>that you can attack knock out every single month. Yeah, man,

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<v Speaker 1>And small changes over a long period of time equal

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<v Speaker 1>big change. And lastly, it's crucial to keep your destination

0:34:38.920 --> 0:34:41.799
<v Speaker 1>at the forefront. Often so, whether that's a sign on

0:34:41.840 --> 0:34:45.319
<v Speaker 1>your mirror or a regular conversation with somebody that is

0:34:45.440 --> 0:34:49.279
<v Speaker 1>actively involved in your life, continue to ask yourself the

0:34:49.400 --> 0:34:53.240
<v Speaker 1>question where are you going? Because knowing your destination, knowing

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<v Speaker 1>the end that's in sight cannot only motivate you to

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<v Speaker 1>do well. When it comes to those small incremental changes

0:34:59.120 --> 0:35:01.320
<v Speaker 1>that will add up a or time for you, it'll

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<v Speaker 1>just reinforce the behaviors that you are instilling in your

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<v Speaker 1>life and reframe them from being something that is deprivation

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<v Speaker 1>oriented to something that is truly goal oriented and helping

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<v Speaker 1>you get to the place that you want to go.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeay man. And honestly, you know, this really makes me

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<v Speaker 1>think of our episode that we did on the Why

0:35:21.160 --> 0:35:24.480
<v Speaker 1>behind Money, and this is what that episode was all about.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just all about setting goals. What is it

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<v Speaker 1>that you're seeking, what is it that you're chasing after.

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<v Speaker 1>When you have those goals, it makes everything else so

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<v Speaker 1>much easier. It gives you clarity. And that's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't want this to just be a New Year's

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<v Speaker 1>resolution that you just forget about and that you kind

0:35:38.239 --> 0:35:39.839
<v Speaker 1>of fall off the wagon. We want this to be

0:35:39.920 --> 0:35:44.080
<v Speaker 1>something that you're continually re energized to pursue and when

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<v Speaker 1>you have that huge, big why behind that money, that

0:35:47.680 --> 0:35:50.279
<v Speaker 1>is able to empower you even when you don't want to.

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<v Speaker 1>Al Right, everyone, thank you so much for listening. You

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<v Speaker 1>can head over to the website how to Money dot com.

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