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Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody to the Wednesday edition of the Clay

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Speaker 1: Travis and Buck Sexton Show. We are here in NYC

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Speaker 1: and have much discussed with all of you across the country.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for being here with us. We have the continued reaction, commentary,

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Speaker 1: and investigation in the aftermath of the Charlie Kirk assassination.

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Speaker 1: Some details from that case specifically, also some of the

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Speaker 1: reactions you're seeing, for example late night TV show that

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Speaker 1: the Democrats the left are living in a fantasy world.

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Speaker 1: Beyond that we have Barack Obama has weighed in on this. Now, yes,

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Speaker 1: we'll discuss Obama making his first public remarks on Charlie

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Speaker 1: Kirk's assassination, and we'ill see how I think, Clay, some

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Speaker 1: Democrats are starting to realize that they are looking too

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Speaker 1: crazy and it's a threat to their power. I don't

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Speaker 1: think that it is a problem for them ethically or

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Speaker 1: morally so much, because I just don't think the Democrat

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Speaker 1: blob thinks in moral terms. It thinks in emotional mob

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Speaker 1: mentality terms. But I do think they realize if they

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Speaker 1: don't tone down the crazy a little bit. Some of

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Speaker 1: them realize this, not all of them, obviously, but I

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Speaker 1: think they recognize the whole gameplay is people like Schumer

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Speaker 1: and Pelosi are out there and Obama are out there

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Speaker 1: trying to tell Democrat donors and more normy Democrats. It

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Speaker 1: gives them an excuse to continue to be Democrats because

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Speaker 1: they say, how crazy could it really be? Chuck Schumer's

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Speaker 1: been in this game for forty years, Nancy Pelosi's been

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Speaker 1: in this game for like one hundred years. You know,

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Speaker 1: how could this? And they're really just what Joe Biden

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Speaker 1: was as president, a facade for the radical leftism. They

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Speaker 1: are a psychological trojan horse, or maybe a psychological pivot

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Speaker 1: point for people because they allow them to think that

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Speaker 1: their party is not radical. They allow them to convince themselves, oh,

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Speaker 1: Democrats aren't really that crazy. So we will dive into

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Speaker 1: some of that, some of that reaction, but I wanted

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Speaker 1: to start with. Oh, and Clay had his stephen A

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Speaker 1: debate yesterday. I was there. I did tell Clay, you know,

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Speaker 1: watch watch out for the left hook, you know, make

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Speaker 1: make sure that you go for the body. And mister

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Speaker 1: Travis acquitted himself very well, I must say, on stage,

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Speaker 1: did quite well. It was I would say, was really

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Speaker 1: just a friendly exchange.

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Speaker 2: More of a converse.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. And and by the way, I all do

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Speaker 1: credit to stephen A for being both respectful and you know,

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Speaker 1: well eloquent clearly, but respectful and eloquent uh in the

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Speaker 1: in the exchange as well. So I wish there'd be

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Speaker 1: more of this. I wish people of relatively similar standing.

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Speaker 1: You know, you're a big name on the right and

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Speaker 1: have a following in this show, and and OutKick and

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Speaker 1: stephen A, you know, obviously has a big following at ESPN.

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Speaker 1: You guys disagree on some stuff, you agree on some stuff.

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Speaker 1: I wish this was much more common. So that's something

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Speaker 1: we can talk about later. There are so few places

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Speaker 1: now where, and in the aftermath of the Charlie assassination,

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Speaker 1: it just feels like where can we have these open

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Speaker 1: form debates and discussions. So we'll get into all of that.

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Speaker 1: But first up here, Clay, I'm gonna I'm gonna read

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Speaker 1: this to you a little bit. And there's been some

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Speaker 1: reaction to this in the in the news media as well,

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Speaker 1: that we will discuss. Do not worry. We we read it.

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Speaker 1: We read it in all night and then all morning,

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Speaker 1: and we're aware of what has been said by some

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Speaker 1: about this exchange. So this is from the shooter Robinson

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Speaker 1: to his trans furry roommate lover. I think that's the

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Speaker 1: I think that's an accurate discussion transferry roommate lover. I

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Speaker 1: was looking for the word. Yes, I was like, paramore

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Speaker 1: sounds like I'm, you know, writing a you know, like

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Speaker 1: and I'm sorry, uh trans furry lover. Whatever, you get

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Uh uh Here he is Robinson. I

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Speaker 1: am still okay, my love, but I'm stuck in Orum

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Speaker 1: for a little while longer yet, shouldn't be long until

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Speaker 1: I can come home, but I gotta grab my rifle still.

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Speaker 1: To be honest, I hope to keep this secret till

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Speaker 1: I died of old age. I am sorry to involve

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Speaker 1: you. You weren't the one who did it, right, The roommate says,

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Speaker 1: I am, I'm sorry. I thought they caught the person. No,

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Speaker 1: they grabbed some crazy old dude. They interrogated someone in

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Speaker 1: similar clothing. I had planned to grab my rifle for

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Speaker 1: my drop points shortly after, but most of this this

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Speaker 1: side of town got locked down. It's quiet, almost enough

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Speaker 1: reaction to that. Let's just start going through this, you know,

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Speaker 3: I think a lot of times this is the case

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Speaker 3: you play moron or intent, and this guy, according to reports,

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Speaker 3: this is just me being someone who's been involved in

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Speaker 3: Probably would at least make a phone call, because you

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Speaker 3: didn't have anything to do with the Charlie Kirk situation.

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Speaker 3: It seems very strange to me that your first thought

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Speaker 1: So the roommate verse says, and again I'm reading from

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Speaker 1: these texts that have come out. The FBI has released these.

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Speaker 1: Why Robinson, Why did I do it? Roommate? Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: had enough of his hatred. Some hate can't be negotiated out.

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Speaker 1: If I'm able to grab my rifle unseen, I will

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Speaker 1: have left no evidence going to attempt to retrieve it again,

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Speaker 1: hopefully they have moved on. I haven't seen anything about

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Speaker 1: them finding it. Let's pause for second here. Clay left

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Speaker 1: no evidence? Is I mean? You know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: Like this guy he had prints all over the rifle

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Speaker 1: he left the right, left the rifle behind. You thought

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Speaker 1: that the that the FBI wouldn't find. I know, he's this.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying he's supposed to be so smart, Hi,

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Speaker 1: he know high sat or act. Rather, he thought the

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Speaker 1: that's one of the dumbest things I've ever heard.

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Speaker 2: I agree with all of that.

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Speaker 1: So again, to your point, something weird is going on.

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Speaker 3: More on or intentional text, I think is the question

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Speaker 1: He trying to establish a text based record of well,

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Speaker 1: this person had no idea, that's whatsoever? Me no idea

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Speaker 3: Also that he would have done this not told that

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Speaker 3: person and decide to tell them in text again, wouldn't

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Speaker 3: this be something that you would make a phone call about?

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Speaker 1: Totally? Totally? So I agree with you that we're reading

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Speaker 1: he's the hateful one, and these people there insane? All right, roommate,

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Speaker 1: a week, I believe I can get close, but there

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Speaker 1: they already swept that spot, but I don't want to

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Speaker 1: I wish I had circled back and grabbed as soon

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Speaker 1: Obviously it does, but it would trace to me. I'm

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Speaker 1: worried about Prince. I had to leave it in a

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Speaker 1: was engraving bullets. The messages there's a lot of f

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Speaker 1: The messages are mostly a big meme. If I see

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Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna leave it why would you do

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Speaker 1: this unless you were trying to create a narrative that

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Speaker 1: you wanted to create, right, Clay, I mean that.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I mean I think the only reason to do

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Speaker 3: this again, he's either a moron and he believed there

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Speaker 2: So which is it?

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Speaker 3: And look, sometimes people behave as morons, So I think

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Speaker 3: you can make the argument, hey, he was a moron

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Speaker 3: again is if all of this was true, would you

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Speaker 3: text it? It seems very strange not to call someone.

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Speaker 3: might have, But wouldn't you FaceTime if you were gonna.

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Speaker 1: Also the way yeah, absolutely, but also the way that

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Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Why did I do it?

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Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 2: I did.

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Speaker 1: It's because I had You know, there's there's this. This

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Speaker 3: It feels like he's making a record, And I think

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Speaker 3: the most likely So you ask me so, and I'll

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Speaker 3: and that is why he has been so direct in

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Speaker 3: providing all of this information to the UH to the FBI.

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Speaker 3: There's also the possibility that a part of him wants

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Speaker 3: got credit. Look, there are multiple different angles you could

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Speaker 3: take on exactly why he did it. To me, the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that that's certainly what makes sense. What

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Speaker 1: my thing. If you're worried about leaving evidence behind, why

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Speaker 3: thousands if not hundreds of thousands of people have gone

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Speaker 3: on Their, facebook book, Pages twitter, pages LinkedIn, profiles wherever you,

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Speaker 3: are TikTok on social, media and they have endorsed and

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Speaker 3: celebrated the killing Of Charlie.

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Speaker 1: Kirk that reminds Me. Clay we talked about the text

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Speaker 1: exchange which we, read and it feels just the, language

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Speaker 1: the whole thing feels tilted and. Weird and, Also i'm

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Speaker 1: not saying this guy was obviously some kind of a criminal.

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Speaker 1: Mastermind he had no record. Before BUT i just can't

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Speaker 1: imagine someone is so dumb that they think they've left

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Speaker 1: no evidence and then they're confessing online LIKE i don't

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Speaker 1: know what. World and also he thinks he's not going

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Speaker 1: to be seen on. Video he's caught on video many,

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Speaker 1: times you. Know, anyway the text exchange is very strange

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Speaker 1: to us for those. REASONS abc has a reporter Named Matt,

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Speaker 1: gutman And i'm just gonna let you all hear what

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Speaker 1: this guy. Is how this guy is describing the text

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Speaker 1: exchange between the evil assassin and his transferrey boyfriend girlfriend. Situation,

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Speaker 1: okay play.

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Speaker 7: It we have seen an alleged murder with such specific

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Speaker 7: text messages about the alleged murder, weapon where it was,

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Speaker 7: hidden how it was, placed what was on. It but

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Speaker 7: also it was very touching in a way THAT i

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Speaker 7: think many of us didn't, expect a very intimate tortuit

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Speaker 7: into this relationship between the suspect's roommate and the suspect,

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Speaker 7: himself with him repeatedly calling his, roommate who was, transitioning

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Speaker 7: calling him my love AND i want to protect, you my.

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Speaker 7: Love so was this duality of someone who the attorney,

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Speaker 7: said not only jeopardized the life Of Charlie kirk and the,

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Speaker 7: crowd but was doing it in front of, children which

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Speaker 7: is one of the aggravating circumstances of this. Case and

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Speaker 7: on the other, hand he was speaking so lovingly about his,

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Speaker 7: partner so very, interesting As pierre said riveting press, Conference.

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Speaker 1: Clay do you think for one second any employee OF,

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Speaker 1: refer to a text exchange between the shooter of the

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Speaker 1: there's a bizarre sympathy here on display FROM, abc not ONLY.

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Speaker 3: ABC i think we're gonna play a clip FROM cnn

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Speaker 3: last night where they're trying to now turn this killer

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Speaker 3: his deep love of his trans, partner and he felt

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Speaker 3: rejected by his family At trump, supporters and so the

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Speaker 3: only thing he could do was.

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Speaker 2: Murder someone in cold.

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Speaker 3: Blood this is not someone who deserves in any way

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Speaker 3: empathy or sympathy or. Respect and, unfortunately when you are

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Speaker 3: YOU i, mean we didn't talk about it. Much but

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Speaker 3: Here, well first of, all the rates have been cut

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Speaker 3: by a twenty five basis, point so a quarter point,

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Speaker 3: a total of fifty basis points, expected which would be

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Speaker 3: nearly a full point overall in interest rates coming, down

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Speaker 3: and some of you out there, say, okay why is this?

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Speaker 3: you're sitting on a thirty year mortgage or a fifteen year,

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Speaker 3: market you are going to get, nearly according to The fed's,

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Speaker 3: forecast a full point decline in interest rates between now

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Speaker 3: and the end of the. Year that makes all houses

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Speaker 3: way more. Affordable it would suggest that mortgage rates WHICH

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Speaker 3: i believe are sitting on a thirty year AND i

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Speaker 3: but around six point two percent and the fifteen that's

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Speaker 3: a thirty year and the fifteen year of five point

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Speaker 3: but that they would come down in theory if they

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Speaker 3: moved in conjunction with these rate cuts that you're talking,

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Speaker 3: about around three quarters of a point of interest rates

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Speaker 3: coming off before the end of the, year it would

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Speaker 3: set up the possibility of, refis which is significant out

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Speaker 3: there for those of you who got seven and a

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Speaker 3: half or eight percent interest because you had to buy

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Speaker 3: at a certain.

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Speaker 2: Time it might.

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Speaker 3: Also as you start to come back down closer to

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Speaker 3: five percent for some of these fifteen and thirty year. Rates,

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Speaker 3: some of you out there might, Say, okay it's time

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Speaker 3: new school. District the housing market has been largely. Frozen

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Speaker 3: this is going to start to unfreeze it as these

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Speaker 3: rate cuts come back in to reverse the rate spikes

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Speaker 3: that were necessary because Of Joe biden's runaway. Inflation so

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Speaker 3: this is a very good. Thing stock, market as we

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Speaker 3: was happy with the guidance going, forward and all stocks

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Speaker 1: Direction we told everybody from the beginning The trump economy

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Speaker 1: economy there's a whole bunch of ways to do that

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Speaker 1: Course trump is going to come in and do things

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Speaker 1: that move things in the right. Direction, NOW i understand

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Speaker 1: there's still sensitivity to, prices and prices remain high for

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Speaker 1: things like not for gas, comparatively but for. Food and

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Speaker 1: obviously mortgage. Rates mortgage rates are going to start to come.

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Speaker 1: Down that will be helpful. Refise, remember more cash in

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Speaker 1: have the ability to refinance at a lower rate means

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Speaker 1: HERE i, mean things that that put more cash into

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Speaker 1: where there's been a. Pinch SO i think that's that's

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Speaker 1: all very very. Encouraging but let's let's dive in if

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Speaker 1: NOTE i think because there's such an expectation After trump's

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Speaker 1: strong That trump doesn't get if this were A democrat

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Speaker 1: president with this market move over the last. YEAR i

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Speaker 1: DOING i mean over the last, year the first year

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Speaker 1: really If Kamala harris was presiding over what we're seeing right, Now,

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Speaker 1: clay don't you think we'd be just Constant Washington Post

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Speaker 3: COURSE i will just point out as soon as the

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Speaker 3: where the stock market. Is i'm telling you right now

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Speaker 3: THAT cnn was running all the. Time AND i understand

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Speaker 3: people who, say, well the stock market does not perfectly

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Speaker 3: reflect what the overall economy is a lot of truth to,

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Speaker 3: that but usually the stock market runs about six months

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Speaker 2: Is that's where it's.

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Speaker 3: Trading so traders now are, saying, hey this economy is

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Speaker 3: going to be firing on all cylinders by the time

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Speaker 3: we get into the spring and the summer of next,

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Speaker 3: year and that is what they are that's what they're working.

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Speaker 3: Towards so all this is very good.

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Speaker 1: News, NOW i think we'd alluded to this, Before we

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Speaker 1: might have teed this up, before BUT i did want

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Speaker 1: us to talk about it a. Bit So Jimmy kimmel

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Speaker 1: is ON. Abc he's the late night host, there AND

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Speaker 1: i find him to be the most odious of those

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Speaker 1: late night. Hows Ah, colbert it is a toss, up

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Speaker 1: But Colbert show got, canceled so at least there's some justice,

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Speaker 1: there you have to. Hear, Now kimmel still has, WELL

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Speaker 1: i don't know if he still has even a couple

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Speaker 1: million people to watch the show a million and. CHANGE

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Speaker 1: i don't. Know, Question i'm not sure what. Viewership it's

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Speaker 1: nowhere near what it used to, be nowhere Near, gutfeld

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Speaker 1: nowhere near Gut. Felt so Here's Jimmy kimmel, saying, well

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Speaker 1: just listen to what he. Says play twenty he hits.

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Speaker 9: Some new lows over the weekend with The Magga gang

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Speaker 9: desperately trying to characterize this kid who Murdered Charlie kirk

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Speaker 9: as anything other than one of them and everything they

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Speaker 9: can to score political points from.

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Speaker 1: It that's it as one of. Them that is despicable

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Speaker 1: and mentally. Stupid false thing to. Say AND i don't

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Speaker 1: know what's. Worse he's intelligent enough to recognize the, falsehood

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Speaker 1: and he pedals it to his audience, Anyway Clay or

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Speaker 1: this is somebody who people are told to laugh and

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Speaker 1: clap for as part of some corporate media, entity and

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Speaker 1: he is he is honestly operating with about an eighty FIVE.

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Speaker 2: Iq this is WHERE i think it's.

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Speaker 3: Challenging there was a calculated attempt on the left to

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Speaker 3: try to make it appear that this person who Killed

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Speaker 3: Charlie kirk was of the. Right and so if you

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Speaker 3: are someone who follows leftist Media New York, Times Washington, POST, CNN, MSNBC, ABC,

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Speaker 3: nbccbs basically anything But Fox, news The Wall Street journal

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Speaker 3: of The New York, post obviously this program you do

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Speaker 3: not get a full picture of what the news. Is

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Speaker 3: now we've played you audio FROM cnn AND. Msnbc there

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Speaker 3: is an intentional desire to try to avoid recognizing what

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Speaker 3: motivated this. Attack AND i hope that in the wake

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Speaker 3: of the announced, indictment which makes that argument virtually impossible

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Speaker 3: to make any. MORE i just wonder how much of

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Speaker 3: an experience of the whole world you. Have you AND

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Speaker 3: i when you Saw Charlie kirk, first we were live

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Speaker 3: on the air last, week one week ago today about this,

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Speaker 3: TIME i could see in your face something really bad.

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Speaker 3: HAPPEN i didn't know because we're constantly on our, phones hitting,

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Speaker 3: refreshed making sure that we're on top of the latest.

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Speaker 2: News for all of. YOU i knew something was.

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Speaker 3: BAD i didn't know what it, was but you AND

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Speaker 3: i off air immediately knew this is someone Killing Charlie

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Speaker 3: kirk because they hate.

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Speaker 2: Him of, course it's not.

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Speaker 3: Complicated you AND i experience a wide variety of. MEDIA

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Speaker 3: i think we understand the full scope of arguments that

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Speaker 3: people in media might. MAKE i don't think very many

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Speaker 3: people on the left. DO i think they marinate In Blue.

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Speaker 3: SKY i think they're On reddit. FORUMS i don't think

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Speaker 3: they see the arguments that people like you and. Me

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Speaker 3: and this is one REASON i wanted to do the

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Speaker 3: Stephen a, thing BECAUSE i think all the time about

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Speaker 3: how do we get better? Arguments Charlie kirk certainly thought

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Speaker 3: about this a. Lot how do we get arguments in

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Speaker 3: front of persuadable, voters people who are willing to change This.

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Speaker 1: Steve the Stephen a discussion that happened showed that he

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Speaker 1: has some familiarity, with and even some agreement with right wing, arguments,

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Speaker 1: yes which is which is. Heartening it's encouraging because a

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Speaker 1: lot of what you see are people on the left

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Speaker 1: who have you AND. I i could do this show

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Speaker 1: as a, leftist AND i kind of want, to like

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Speaker 1: For April fools one, day just come, on ALTHOUGH i

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Speaker 1: think people wouldn't necessarily.

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Speaker 3: Rush did this Producer ali talked about back in the,

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Speaker 3: day we were talking about this off. Air he pretended

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Speaker 3: to be a Big Bill clinton supporter for What ali

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Speaker 3: like twenty minutes or was it a full?

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Speaker 2: Hour she's going to look up how long it went.

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Speaker 2: On people lost their.

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Speaker 1: Mind you guys have to find, out you know, what

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Speaker 1: refresh my. Memory pull that clip for rist if you.

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Speaker 1: Can AND i WANT i want to leave you time

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Speaker 1: CLAY i could sit here with some big framed glasses

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Speaker 1: shirt and some sandals with, socks AND i could sit

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Speaker 1: i could make all of their. Arguments in, fact you

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Speaker 1: AND i could sit here in advance as long as

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Speaker 1: we knew the topic in advance of like A Anderson

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Speaker 1: cooper Or mattow or any of those names doing a,

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Speaker 1: show and we could say what their position is going

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Speaker 1: to be on, right we knew they were going to

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Speaker 1: do both sides ism as soon as they, finish so

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Speaker 1: we have familiarity with the other. Side one of the

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Speaker 1: problems that is so clear on the, left and by the,

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Speaker 1: way there's data that shows this as, well they have

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Speaker 1: no idea what we really. Think they have no idea

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Speaker 1: what we really, say and we Meeting clay and, me

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Speaker 1: but also more broadly the, right they just don't get.

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Speaker 1: It AND i think they deep down they don't want

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Speaker 1: to get. It they prefer to be lied. To and

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Speaker 1: that's what you see going on right, now and that's

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Speaker 1: Why kimmel told that Life by the way you're telling

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Speaker 1: me is That Jimmy kimmel is an incurious. Moron like

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Speaker 1: there's only two options. Here he's an incurious moron or

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Speaker 1: he's just a vile. Propagandist So i'll accept that he's

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Speaker 1: an incurious. Moron but some of these, things the assassination

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Speaker 1: and assassination Of Charlie, kirk it's so clear what the

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Speaker 1: motivation was the second that had, happened because He's Charlie.

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Speaker 1: Kirk this reminds me of when we're all supposed to

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Speaker 1: think that THE covid virus appearing next to The Wuhan

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Speaker 1: institute Of virology In china was a coincident where they

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Speaker 1: were playing around WITH covid. Viruses it's a big, planet,

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Speaker 1: everybody you. Know the virus didn't appear suddenly In mozambique Or.

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Speaker 1: Bulgaria it appeared next to the facility where they were

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Speaker 1: doing this, first, right we were to believe that was a.

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Speaker 1: Coincidence now they're going to tell us that we can't

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Speaker 1: tell what the motive is With Charlie. Kirk of course

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Speaker 1: we know that we knew the motive right. Away this

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Speaker 1: couldn't be any more. Clear this is not. Hard but

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Speaker 1: they would rather lie to themselves and lie to each

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Speaker 1: other than handle the, reality which is that the left

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Speaker 1: has created a toxic political ideology that has infected the

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Speaker 1: mainstream of their party top, down and they don't want

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Speaker 1: to clean. House AND i think that this is, a

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Speaker 1: LIKE i, said a clarifying moment for the country about

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Speaker 1: who stands for What and.

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Speaker 3: As long as they don't acknowledge this inside of their,

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Speaker 3: party the sad and scary and unfortunate reality, is and

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Speaker 3: that's what we've been saying for some. Time there's gonna

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Speaker 3: be More Charlie kirks because these people think they're heroes

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Speaker 3: and they're not being shouted.

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Speaker 2: Down, now we haven't seen this since It.

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Speaker 1: LOOK i don't interrupt, you but look at The luigi. Situation,

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Speaker 1: happened At United? Healthcare and response to, this nothing except

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Speaker 1: babyishness the cry babyishness of all these socialists and leftists.

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Speaker 3: Way we haven't played aid this. Yet i'm curious to

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Speaker 2: On This Sunday hang podcast With clay And.

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Speaker 1: Running Gavin newsom is calling On democrats to do more.

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Speaker 1: Outreach Like Charlie, Kirk we've known this all. Along Gavin

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Speaker 1: newsom is the in my, view current standard bearer of

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Speaker 1: The Republican party with the most serious claim to The

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Speaker 1: democrat leadership and therefore becoming the next nominee for The Democrat.

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Speaker 1: this out On twitter because he got An elon, retweet

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Speaker 1: Thoughts Ben. Scalen he is a senior Yeah irish journalist and.

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Speaker 1: Commentator he, writes note there's not one prominent leftist anywhere

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Speaker 1: DID i e issuing an open debate challenge to all

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Speaker 1: try and prove me. Wrong none of them are willing

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Speaker 1: to subject their views to that. Scrutiny That clay is

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Speaker 1: a critical point and it's something THAT i think is overlooked.

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Speaker 1: Here it's not just That democrats don't you accept, That.

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Speaker 1: The First amendment and everything. Else they are unwilling themselves

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Speaker 1: these issues that are like religious fervor issues for.

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Speaker 3: Them that's why they don't have open public. Forums and

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Speaker 3: that's WHY i was Saying Gavin newsom got exposed By Ron.

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Speaker 3: right and the flip side would be, true which is

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Speaker 3: a mic and saying to left Wing Charlie, kirk how

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00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 3: can you say that it's fair for a grown man

859
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 3: to decide to identify as a woman and win a

860
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 3: women's sports championship that you can argue that it is,

861
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 3: well there are real, women there is no biological, impact

862
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,840
Speaker 3: but you end. Up remember When Neil deGrasse tyson said,

863
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 3: that and we came on and we played that audio

864
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 3: and we, said this guy is supposed to be one

865
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 3: of the most brilliant scientists in the entire. World and

866
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 3: he went on because of left wing orthodoxy and, said

867
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 3: do we really know that men would be better athletes than?

868
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 2: WOMEN i don't.

869
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 1: Know, yeah we know, that we do, know mister, science

870
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 1: we do.

871
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 3: Know but he got ridiculed for that. Take it was

872
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 3: him choosing politics and orthodoxy over. Science AND i think

873
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,240
Speaker 3: what you would see if somebody had an open form

874
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:45,799
Speaker 3: from the left wing perspective is it would absolutely ridicule those.

875
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 3: Perspectives by the, way credit To Jade vance. This we

876
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 3: told you we were monitoring the speech that he was.

877
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 3: Giving he just said, this which echoes much of what

878
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:55,720
Speaker 3: we've said for the last.

879
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,359
Speaker 2: Week cut thirty. Eight AND i would like to.

880
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 4: Think that whether you're A, democrat we're A, republican this

881
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:05,720
Speaker 4: basic idea of young people gathering to discuss and, debate

882
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 4: that is the thing That we cannot let pass away

883
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 4: just because the leader Of Turning POINTS usa was gunned

884
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 4: down by an.

885
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 1: Assassin AND i want to let you know.

886
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 4: That whether you're A democrat or A, republican whatever your belief,

887
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:22,399
Speaker 4: IS i will fight for your right to speak your.

888
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 4: Mind we reject political, violence and we reject the crazy

889
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,720
Speaker 4: left wing radicals that gun down our Friend Charlie.

890
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 2: Kirk let's talk to.

891
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 1: One another and not try to suit each other down for.

892
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 1: Disagreeing is it nice to have a vice president who

893
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 1: is incredibly, eloquent, intelligent and forceful on the issues and

894
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 1: just gets, it you, know, honestly it's something THAT i

895
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:46,399
Speaker 1: think we almost take a little bit for granted right.

896
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 1: Now But JDESUS jd is a political star in his own.

897
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:52,320
Speaker 3: Right, yeah and a super smart guy to your, point

898
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 3: and off, air we were saying, this and INCREASINGLY i

899
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 3: think it's actually very. LIKELY a part of me feels

900
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 3: like maybe sometimes after the, midterms if things continue to go,

901
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:06,280
Speaker 3: well that we're going to SEE Jd vance And Marco

902
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 3: rubio announce a unity. Ticket, hey we don't need to

903
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 3: spend three hundred five hundred million dollars on a. Primary

904
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 3: let's put all of our resources behind. This let's let

905
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 3: The democrats, fight and let's go ahead and know who

906
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:22,320
Speaker 3: our guys are going to be going. Forward i'm not

907
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,760
Speaker 3: one hundred percent sure it, happens BUT i think there's

908
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 3: increasingly a lot of momentum there when.

909
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:29,399
Speaker 1: You think about the names that would also consider Being

910
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 1: republican contenders in the in the next election, cycle which

911
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 1: is not far. Away, everybody this is the thing we

912
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 1: have to keep reminding. Ourselves it's it's you, know in two,

913
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 1: years we're going to be talking about about who the

914
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 1: who the nominee will be on.

915
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 3: All that fifteen months as soon as the midterms in

916
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 3: next year, o'clock not even, that everybody's going to start

917
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:49,240
Speaker 3: to announce that's, Right.

918
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,919
Speaker 1: So it's going to come pretty. Quickly AND i would

919
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 1: just say, everybody, though who's in that, CONVERSATION i think

920
00:48:54,840 --> 00:49:00,080
Speaker 1: knows that they would also be welcome in a A

921
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 1: evans From Marco rubio And i'm you, know, however they

922
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 1: would do that welcome in that. Administration SO i think

923
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 1: all of the big names know that there's there's a

924
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 1: place for them if that were to be the. Ticket,

925
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 1: look we're getting a little bit ahead of ourselves with.

926
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 1: That but back to WHAT jd said, there here is my, Frustration,

927
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:20,360
Speaker 1: clay AND i know THAT jd agrees with, this him

928
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 1: saying this is a good. Thing it's the right thing to.

929
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:27,360
Speaker 1: Say defending the right to say things without fear of

930
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 1: violence in this country as critical as. Essential our team

931
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 1: isn't the team that needs to hear, it you, know

932
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,359
Speaker 1: this is this is the. Issue our people will say

933
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 1: this all day long because that's how we, think you,

934
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 1: know and this is always across the board. Too we

935
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 1: don't chase. Politics and WHEN i say, we i'm talking

936
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,840
Speaker 1: to people on the right in any, numbers with any

937
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 1: support of people who are ideologically aligned or ideologically. Similar

938
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 1: we don't agree with lying down to block. Traffic we

939
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 1: don't agree with yelling at people in front of their

940
00:49:57,600 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 1: families or just in general while they're trying to have a,

941
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 1: dinner yelling at. Politicians you, know we don't agree, with you,

942
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 1: know throwing riots that burn down or destroy neighborhoods or

943
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 1: loot stores when we're on hat like you go down

944
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 1: this list of. Things this could not Be this could

945
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 1: not be more. Clear but Mourning, joe your, boy Mourning

946
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 1: joe or as as Mister Mark levin calls him Mourning,

947
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 1: schmoe WHICH i think is quite. APT i must, say

948
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 1: Mourning joe says, this this has cut twenty. Six SORRY

949
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 1: i didn't give you much advanced notice on this, one

950
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 1: but there we. Go he got it.

951
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 10: There resident of The United, states The Vice, President Stephen,

952
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:40,319
Speaker 10: miller The Attorney general have been saying things that have

953
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 10: been extraordinarily, divisive and as we said yesterday with The Vice,

954
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:48,919
Speaker 10: president sadly just not. True when he says that most

955
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 10: of the violence comes from the, LEFT i can say

956
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 10: this is somebody in the.

957
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:53,319
Speaker 1: Center, no it.

958
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:57,839
Speaker 10: Doesn't The Cato, institute a libertarian think tank funded by

959
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 10: The Koch brothers and run by people in association with

960
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 10: The Koch, brothers put out studies showing the overwhelming amount

961
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 10: of political violence In america has in fact come from

962
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 10: the fore.

963
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 1: Right this is. Delusional first of, all no one on

964
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,239
Speaker 1: the right takes The Cato institute. Seriously i'm just gonna

965
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 1: say this right. Now, okay they're a bunch of open

966
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 1: borders loans AND i DON'T i don't care What cato

967
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 1: has to say about. Anything you. Know that's that's part,

968
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:25,359
Speaker 1: one that's just. Reality part two is this just goes

969
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 1: against everything that we, see everything we, Know and LIKE i,

970
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:30,840
Speaker 1: Said i've seen them play this game. Before. CLAY i

971
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 1: was ON cnn in the error when we were having

972
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:37,360
Speaker 1: The San bernardino terror, attack The Pulsny club terror, attack

973
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 1: the you, know you go down the list of all

974
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:41,239
Speaker 1: these different the guy who drove his car on The

975
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 1: West Side highway and mow down a bunch of all

976
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 1: these je hottest terror attacks happening over and over and over.

977
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 1: Again and then they would put me on and they, say,

978
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 1: well look at. This you know that here's some data

979
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 1: that shows that there's more right wing terrorism than left wing.

980
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:56,280
Speaker 1: Terrorism and they would include things like someone saying something

981
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:58,799
Speaker 1: mean to a minority on a subway. Car, oh it's

982
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 1: like right wing. VIOLENCE i mean it's just not.

983
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 3: Reality can you think of ANY i, MEAN i just

984
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:07,800
Speaker 3: for all of you out, THERE i mean you had the.

985
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 3: CRAZY i think it's one billion. Percent the guy In

986
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:16,920
Speaker 3: MINNESOTA i read as. MANIFESTO i, mean he's. Schizophrenic HE'S i,

987
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 3: mean there's some.

988
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 1: Strategic with the guy who Shot Gabby, giffords who's just

989
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 1: he is like the what's the Frequency kenneth? Guy he's a,

990
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:27,360
Speaker 1: psycho a psycho that isn't latching on to a clear

991
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:32,879
Speaker 1: ideology with institutional support from real edifices in our.

992
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 3: SOCIETY i can't even think of. One now they're gonna, say,

993
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:39,959
Speaker 3: Oh Gretchen. Whitmer first of, all nothing really happened, there

994
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 3: and it seems to be primarily an entrapped. Situation but

995
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 3: if you just run through in recent, history obviously what

996
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 3: happened To, charlie if you think about what happened In

997
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:54,319
Speaker 3: minneapolis at the school, shooting the trans, shooter if you

998
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:58,400
Speaker 3: think about what happened In nashville with the trans. Shooter

999
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 3: are there lives to violent people In?

1000
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:03,840
Speaker 2: America? Yes are they far too often? Violent?

1001
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 3: Yes but what political violence motivated by someone from the. Right,

1002
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 3: Now i'll tell you what they did probably was they

1003
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 3: counted every charge brought On Jane january, Sixth, hey this trespassing, Charge,

1004
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 3: hey this this misdemeanor that was pled guilty, to and

1005
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 3: they rolled all those. Together but as you pointed, out

1006
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 3: the only person who died on that day was actually

1007
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 3: unarmed and shot and. Killed, otherwise there was no actual substantial.

1008
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 1: Killed in an. Actor people that had a heart attack

1009
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 1: a couple of days, later and things like That Ashley.

1010
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 3: Babbitt they try to say six cops. Died they don't

1011
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 3: actually give you the. Details BUT i, mean here here's an.

1012
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 1: EXAMPLE i remember the First trump administration there was, this

1013
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 1: there was this movement of. Lunatics they Chased Ted cruz

1014
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 1: in a restaurant ON dc and they were screaming at,

1015
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 1: him and so that restaurant's Credit actually they were totally

1016
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:58,839
Speaker 1: Had ted's back and said you were welcome back. Here those,

1017
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 1: scumbags you, know are. Not there are other, times, though

1018
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:04,360
Speaker 1: Where Sarah Huckabee, sanders she was at a restaurant In.

1019
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:07,759
Speaker 1: VIRGINIA i remember this and they and the restaurant owner was,

1020
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:10,359
Speaker 1: like that's, Right i'm with these lunatics who were shouting at,

1021
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:11,880
Speaker 1: you like, sorry you know you stand In.

1022
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:13,880
Speaker 2: Virginia there you.

1023
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:17,879
Speaker 1: Go. Yeah so did that happen under The biden years

1024
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 1: when the restaurants were, open because we you KNOW.

1025
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:23,240
Speaker 3: Covid how About Maxine water saying get in everybody's, face

1026
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:25,279
Speaker 3: which helped to motivate the fact that that was.

1027
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 2: Occurring how About Chuck schumer saying be.

1028
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 3: Careful basically out in front of The Supreme, court they

1029
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 3: tried to Kill Brett. KAVANAUGH i, know everybody just pretends

1030
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 3: that didn't. Happen the shooting Of Steve scalice and others

1031
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 3: after the shooter said are Those republicans or? Not while

1032
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 3: they were preparing for the softball.

1033
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 1: To the point that was made by That irish. Guy

1034
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 1: this is why they can't have these debates in. Public

1035
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 1: If Morning joe tried to have this discussion On Morning

1036
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:53,400
Speaker 1: joe with you or with, me they would be eviscerated

1037
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 1: on their own show ON. Tv they would get. Smoked,

1038
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 1: okay they would get, smoked and they know. It and

1039
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:02,359
Speaker 1: so instead of, saying maybe our ideas are, bad maybe

1040
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 1: our arguments are, weak they just retreat further into an

1041
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:11,400
Speaker 1: echo chamber where they create an audience that is emotionally

1042
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 1: emotionally unstable and can only hear what they want to

1043
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:18,279
Speaker 1: hear because they cannot present them with the, truth because

1044
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 1: then they'll go somewhere, Else, right it turns into a

1045
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 1: competition for the lowest common. Denominator they'll listen to some

1046
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 1: other lunatic out there who will try to to justify these.

1047
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 1: Things and you'll notice, also and this is true of

1048
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 1: The charlie situation in really star. Terms but you've seen

1049
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 1: this with a lot of other times, too they'll say things,

1050
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 1: like you, Know charlie was a white, supremacist and you sit,

1051
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 1: THERE i mean and put us the obvious things Like

1052
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 1: candice was one of his first you, know stars Within

1053
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:45,719
Speaker 1: Turning point and they had a very close. Friendship and

1054
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:47,800
Speaker 1: there's a lot of things you could say right away

1055
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 1: that would dismantle. This but, okay what's the racist thing

1056
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:53,759
Speaker 1: That Charlie kirk said that we shouldn't have affirmative, action

1057
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:56,840
Speaker 1: that it demeans people who The Supreme court agrees with.

1058
00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 1: That so so if now you're beyond the, pale if

1059
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:01,800
Speaker 1: now there are going to be people who justify violence

1060
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 1: against you because you take positions that The United States

1061
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 1: Supreme court has, ratified where does that leave, us clay

1062
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 1: as a? Society where are We so the law of the,

1063
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 1: land of The Supreme court of The constitution is so

1064
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:16,320
Speaker 1: radical to the left that you're allowed to be a.

1065
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:18,400
Speaker 1: TARGET i actually think that is where we.

1066
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 3: ARE i think one of the real questions that's out

1067
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Speaker 3: there in the wake of The Charlie kirk assassination Is

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