1 00:00:01,639 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: On this week's episode of Cultivating her Space. 2 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 2: For me, when we think about how black people have 3 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 2: been able to continue to exist given all the trauma 4 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,239 Speaker 2: and oppression, I think the answer is love. 5 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: Today's episode is sure to provide you with motivation, inspiration, 6 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 1: or a fresh perspective. If you have any AHA moments 7 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: or appreciate anything from this episode, please leave us a 8 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: review to let us know we're on the right track. Also, 9 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: we release episodes every Friday, so be sure to subscribe 10 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: on iTunes and visit cultivatinghurspace dot com to access our 11 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: exclusive after show and other bonus content from the Patreon tab. 12 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 3: Welcome to Cultivating her Space, a podcast dedicated to uplifting 13 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 3: women like you. We're your hosts, Doctor Dominique Bussard, a 14 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 3: college professor and psychologist. 15 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 4: And Terry Lomax, a techy and motivational speaker. In a 16 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:07,839 Speaker 4: world where black women are often misrepresented and misunderstood, please 17 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 4: join us as we initiate authentic conversations on everything from 18 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 4: fibroids to faith friends and create a safe space where 19 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 4: black women can just. 20 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 3: Be Hey, lady, it's doctor dom here from the Cultivating 21 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 3: her Space podcast. Are you currently a resident of the 22 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 3: state of California in contemplating starting your therapy journey. Well, 23 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 3: if so, please reach out to me at doctor Dominique 24 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 3: Brusard dot com. That's d R D O M I 25 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 3: N I q U E b R O U ss 26 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 3: ar D dot com to schedule a free fifteen minute consultation. 27 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 3: I look forward to hearing from you, all. 28 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 4: Right ley, let me just say, get ready for your 29 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 4: mouth to drop when you hear this bio. Okay, and 30 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 4: don't say I didn't warn you. Felicia Pride is a 31 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 4: TV writer, producer, and an award winning filmmaker. She wrote 32 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 4: on Ava DuVernay's Queen Sugar and currently writes on Grey's Anatomy. 33 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 4: She's developing shows with FX in Netflix and has previously 34 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 4: sold a show to Bravo. In film, she's the writer 35 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 4: and executive producer of Really Love, produced by Macro, which 36 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 4: debuted on Netflix and became a top ten movie on 37 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 4: the platform. Y'all okay. She made her directorial debut with Tinder, 38 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:42,279 Speaker 4: a short film she also wrote, which won a Lionsgate 39 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 4: Award at Black Star Film Festival and aired on Stars. 40 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 4: She founded and runs Honeychild, a production company that produces 41 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 4: cultural content centering the lives of the full lives let 42 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 4: Me add of Black Women forty and over, and is 43 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 4: the co host of her podcast ChIL Please. She was 44 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 4: recently selected for the twenty twenty two Good Morning America 45 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 4: Inspiration List. And there is so much more we could 46 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 4: say about Felicia Pride, but we're going to jump into 47 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 4: the juicy conversation and let you hear more about her 48 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 4: amazing projects from her lips. So, Felicia Pride, welcome to 49 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 4: cultivating her space. 50 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 2: Thank you for having me. Of course, I love the 51 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 2: space that y'all have created. 52 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 4: Thank you so much. 53 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 3: We are so excited for this conversation, and so I'm 54 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 3: going to start us off with a quote of the day. Now, Felicia, 55 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 3: these words will sound really familiar to you because these 56 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 3: are your words. As we've been doing our research, we 57 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 3: were listening and watching some of your interviews and each 58 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 3: one you dropped so many gems, and so we captured 59 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 3: one for our Quote of the Oh wow, yes, so 60 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 3: our quote of the day. When you do writing well, 61 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 3: you are able to to access humanity, You are able 62 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 3: to get to a truth that people can feel. 63 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 4: Wow. 64 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 5: I said that. 65 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 2: Yes, I like that, Yes, I need that right now 66 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 2: through some of these projects I'm working on. 67 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I hope that that quote does inspire you 68 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 3: as much as it inspired us when we you know, 69 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 3: when we think about your work. At least for me, 70 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 3: this quote of the day, this quote that we chose, 71 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 3: really speaks to the motivation behind the work that you do. 72 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 3: But let me ask you, Felicia, when you hear your 73 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 3: words given back to you and you think about the 74 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 3: work that you're doing, what comes up for you? Well, first, 75 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:53,239 Speaker 3: I feel incredibly grateful. I feel grateful for many reasons 76 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 3: why that I have this gift. I do think it's 77 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 3: you know, outside of me has been given to me. 78 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 3: So I feel grateful to have this gift. I feel 79 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 3: grateful to be able to even use this gift and 80 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 3: be in a physician to do that. And then I 81 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:09,359 Speaker 3: feel grateful to be able to work with amazing artists 82 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 3: all the time, who you know, encourage me to up 83 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 3: my game, my craft game, who inspire me. And then 84 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 3: I think, just like the people around me, my family, 85 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 3: my mother continue to inspire me as well to tell 86 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 3: stories that I feel like reflect them. And so yeah, 87 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 3: I just feel a lot of gratitude, a lot of 88 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:32,359 Speaker 3: responsibility in that way and a lot of accountability in 89 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 3: that way. 90 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 5: And then just pride. 91 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 2: I feel very proud of the work that I've been 92 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 2: able to do and the people I've been able to 93 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 2: work with. 94 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 4: That is so amazing. And I'm sure that you inspire 95 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 4: so many people. And I'm sure that as folks heard 96 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 4: the bio, they're probably like, oh my gosh, they got 97 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 4: Felicia Pride on the podcast. So we want to start 98 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 4: from the beginning, though, Felicia, like where did your love 99 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 4: for writing and your skill set develop? And like, how 100 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 4: did you become the Felicia Pride you are today? Because 101 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 4: I'm sure that it was a process and a journey, 102 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 4: So can you tell us more about that. 103 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 2: It was a journey and a half. And then because 104 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 2: I wasn't one of those who grew up knew I 105 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 2: wanted to knowing, I wanted to write. You know, there's 106 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 2: a lot of artists like I've been singing since I 107 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:13,679 Speaker 2: was five. 108 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 5: That wasn't me. 109 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 2: It wasn't actually until college that I had a professor 110 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 2: who noticed something in my writing. And I was a 111 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 2: business major at the time, because it sounded like you 112 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 2: get a job in business, and she had encouraged me 113 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 2: to minor in English, and I was like, that's not 114 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 2: like more money and more time, no thanks. And also 115 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 2: I just didn't understand what a full time writer looked like. 116 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 5: You know, this was ninety eight. I didn't know what 117 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 5: that was. 118 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 2: I didn't know any full time writers. So I continue 119 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 2: on my path and working in business, but quickly found 120 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 2: myself bored and also just like had a lot of angst, 121 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 2: you know, a lot of early twenties angst daddy issues 122 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 2: and was looking for ways to kind of process that, 123 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,239 Speaker 2: and I found writing to be one of those ways. 124 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 2: I started out actually writing really bad poetry, deaf poetry. 125 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 2: Jim had like a forum, I guess this is back 126 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 2: in the day, and so I would put my poems 127 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 2: on the Internet and strangers would read it and like 128 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 2: it or hate on it. But either way, I was 129 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 2: encouraged by the feedback. I was encouraged by the fact 130 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 2: that people were reading my stuff. And then I just 131 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 2: looked for more ways to write. So I got an 132 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 2: internship while I was working full time. So I was 133 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 2: like an unpaid intern for this local newspaper, and that 134 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 2: got me into the journalism of things, and also in 135 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 2: terms of like a published byline. 136 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 5: That people were reading. 137 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 2: That was a big deal for me in terms of 138 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 2: seeing my name in print, and I still feel very 139 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 2: that same feeling when I see it on screen, but 140 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 2: also that same kind of responsibility. That's my family's name, 141 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 2: so if my name's on it, you know, it's important 142 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 2: that I protect what my name goes on in that way. 143 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 2: But yeah, I got into the journalism of it. So 144 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 2: I was a freelance entertainment journalist for quite some time, 145 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 2: doing the hustle of trying to find stories and pitching 146 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 2: editors and all of that. You know, it was gratified. 147 00:07:59,240 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 5: It was a lot of work. 148 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 2: So I went back to school, went to grad school 149 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 2: at Emerson in Boston and studied writing literature and publishing 150 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 2: because I wanted to expand into writing books. And I 151 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 2: left that and lived in New York and was able 152 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 2: to then transition into writing books. And then I had 153 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 2: realized that books was in my form. 154 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 4: So there's been a. 155 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 2: Lot of trial and error in my career. I think, 156 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 2: a lot of starting things, trying things, see what works 157 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 2: for me. So I stopped writing for a long time 158 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 2: after writing my books, and that was probably one of 159 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 2: the biggest mistakes I've ever made, and I fell back 160 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 2: on my marketing degree and was essentially what we call 161 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:38,079 Speaker 2: now impact producer, so helping social justice projects reach audiences. 162 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 2: I was developing large scale marketing campaigns and being in 163 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 2: service for other creators, and I was gratifying work. But 164 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 2: then I got the itch again to seven years later, 165 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 2: to want to write, and so I started self teaching 166 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 2: myself screenwriting because it felt like a nice middle ground 167 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 2: between journalism, the efficiency of journalism, and the imagination of fiction. 168 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 2: And then thirty five, with the advice of my mentor, 169 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 2: moved to LA with one screenplay, and that screenplay became 170 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 2: really love. 171 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 4: That is amazing. Wow, what a full journey. Can I 172 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 4: ask a quick follow up question, Felusha, I want to 173 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 4: know why do you determine when to let something go? 174 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 4: Because I think that'll really hard folks that are on 175 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 4: a path right, people are just trying different things and 176 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 4: it's like, oh, this blog isn't working, but this podcast 177 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 4: isn't working, Like how did you decide when to let 178 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 4: something go and to move on to something else. 179 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 2: I think we have to be honest with ourselves about 180 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 2: things that are distractions, because I think what a lot 181 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 2: of us are doing is distracting ourselves from. 182 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 5: What we really want to do. 183 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 2: I knew for a very long time that I wanted 184 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 2: to be a full time writer and continue to be 185 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 2: a full time writer, but it was very difficult. It 186 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 2: was very hard financially right. So instead of getting a 187 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 2: job and continuing to be a writer, continue to work 188 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 2: with my craft, I just stopped full turkey and started 189 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 2: to take on a lot of distractions to move me 190 00:09:57,679 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 2: further and further away from writing. So I think sometimes 191 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:02,959 Speaker 2: we have to be clear about or honest about our fears. 192 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 2: I think most of everything that stands in our way 193 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 2: is some manifestation of fear. Like we're scared to move forward, 194 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 2: we're scared of success, We're scared of the hard stuff. 195 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 5: So I found myself. 196 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 2: Running away from writing for a long time and filling 197 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 2: it with distractions. 198 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 5: So once I got clear on the things that were. 199 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 2: Distracting me from what I should be doing, what my 200 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 2: gift was, and honestly what I wanted to do. If 201 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 2: all things were equal, what would I be doing. It 202 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 2: would be writing. That's when I sort of made the 203 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 2: commitment to put writing first. 204 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 4: All right, lady, It's about that time Dom and I 205 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 4: want to share a few sponsors with you that we 206 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 4: believe you'd enjoy, So stay tuned, write down those promo 207 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:46,199 Speaker 4: codes and we'll hop right back into this informative conversation. 208 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 4: First up, we have everly Well. When you know more, 209 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 4: you can do more. What if you could use science 210 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 4: to discover more about your body find out what you 211 00:10:56,760 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 4: need for your healthier tomorrow with everly Well. 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And like you mentioned, like there's a 236 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 3: lot of us, a lot of folks out there who 237 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 3: knew from the age of five or display their talents 238 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 3: from the age of five, right, but there are many 239 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 3: more of us who change careers multiple times as we 240 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:39,719 Speaker 3: get to that point of, like you said, finding and 241 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 3: recognizing and acknowledging your purpose and your passion and the 242 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 3: thing that you are supposed to be doing. So I 243 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 3: appreciate you sharing that journey with us. And so in 244 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 3: this current phase of your journey, right, you are showcasing 245 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 3: love stories. Why is it important for you to focus 246 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 3: on black love stories and what is your approach to 247 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 3: injecting that real humanity into your shows, your films, and 248 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 3: your writing. 249 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:16,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think that black love is sort 250 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 2: of the foundation of cornerstone. And I look at love 251 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 2: as very expansive, right. I don't look at it it's 252 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 2: just romantic love. I look at as community love, familial love, 253 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 2: friendship love, sexual love, love of self, love of dreams. 254 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 2: And so for me, when we think about how black 255 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:39,319 Speaker 2: people have been able to continue to exist given all 256 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 2: the trauma and oppression, I think the answer is love. 257 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 2: And I'm not one of those who don't believe that 258 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 2: we can't show black drama because I think that's a 259 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 2: part of life. But I think that if we do that, 260 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 2: we have to show how black people continue to move through, 261 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 2: to continue to go on even if they're carrying that trauma, 262 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 2: and it's through love in my opinion, right, and those 263 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 2: various forms of love and how the ways that love 264 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:06,559 Speaker 2: manifests itself. So that's important to me, And I think 265 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 2: that the humanity piece is important because I just want 266 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 2: to see black people fully realized on screen. 267 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 5: We are not one sided. 268 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 2: And going back to sort of the trauma conversation too, 269 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 2: like the fact that. 270 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 5: We are able to we are very funny people. 271 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 2: We find ways to make, you know, humor out of everything. 272 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 2: So to me, humor needs to be a part of everything, 273 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 2: you know. Like, so, I'm just trying to find the 274 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 2: ways that black people actually live and exist. And when 275 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 2: I'm trying to get to truth, I uncover love, I 276 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 2: uncover humor, I uncover contradictions, I uncover you know, messy, 277 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 2: I uncover these things when I'm trying to get to truth. 278 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 4: That's beautiful And when you said that, it just made 279 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 4: me think about black Twitter and how Black Twitter are 280 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 4: be going to create, Like it just everything. 281 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 2: Like the way that we can make jokes and make 282 00:14:55,880 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 2: each other laugh through the toughest of times is a skill. 283 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 5: It's also the mechanism. 284 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 2: It's so it's important to me that that b piece 285 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 2: part of the storytelling as well. 286 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 4: For sure, that's super important. And one of the things 287 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 4: that Dom and I we really appreciate and love is 288 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 4: that you refer to black women over forty as the honeys. 289 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 5: Yeah. 290 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 4: We were like, okay, yeah, so we want to know, Okay, honey, 291 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 4: I don't know why is it important? Why is it 292 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 4: important to make space for women filmmakers? 293 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 3: One? 294 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 4: And then what challenges do you face and telling stories 295 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 4: about black women in their forties. 296 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:35,239 Speaker 5: Absolutely. 297 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I moved to la As like 298 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 2: I said, at thirty five, but I came with, you know, 299 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 2: years of life experience and careers and wisdom, and I 300 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 2: think my age actually helped me to move faster and 301 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 2: it had me like side eyeing a lot of the 302 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 2: shit that goes out in the industry. So I think 303 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 2: that there's an interesting space for honeys to be brought 304 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 2: into the industry, to trans tansition into the industry because 305 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 2: I think that we can come with new ideas, new 306 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 2: waves of resistance, and new stories that I think could 307 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 2: actually benefit Hollywood. So that's one leads a lot of 308 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 2: interested in it from that aspect of honeys behind the 309 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 2: camera and behind the scenes. But also I just felt 310 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 2: like I wanted to see more. You know, there's some 311 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 2: great content with like linials and gen zs that I love, 312 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 2: but I felt like I wanted to see some of 313 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 2: the conversations that I have with my friends are a 314 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 2: little different, right, So I wanted to also see the 315 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 2: experience of the modern honey, because it's not your mama's honey, 316 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 2: so you know what I mean. So I want to 317 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 2: see the experience of the modern honey, so in terms 318 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 2: of story centering honeys, But then again, I also want 319 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 2: to see what a honey perspective is. What is my 320 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 2: perspective of a euphoria? Right, what is a blackman of 321 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 2: a forties perspective from a severance or a you know, 322 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 2: succession like, I would love to see just our viewpoint 323 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 2: and viewed into more types of storytelling. So for our 324 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 2: Honey chold a company, we're interested in telling those types 325 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 2: of stories, whether it's centers honeys, or it's from a 326 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 2: Honey perspective, but it's anybody, or it is you know, 327 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 2: created by honeys, or honeys are heavily involved in the 328 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 2: making of And of course the challenge is is that 329 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 2: Hollywood is racist, agist, is sexist, among other things. So 330 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 2: being able to particularly since I'm not in the business 331 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:31,199 Speaker 2: approving humanity to folks, you know, it is a challenge 332 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 2: to show the value that honeys bring. So I tend 333 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:39,880 Speaker 2: to focus on showing them, continue to show honeys our 334 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 2: own value in our own way and making stuff for 335 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 2: us that I can get to us immediately, whether it 336 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,400 Speaker 2: be through podcasts, We're about to show shoot a proof 337 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 2: of concept of a feature that I want to direct 338 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 2: in Baltimore next month, So how can we make stuff 339 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 2: without permission? And then Hollywood will catch off? 340 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 4: I love it's passed their system and just do what 341 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 4: we got to do for us. 342 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 2: I love that, do what we gotta do for us, 343 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:08,400 Speaker 2: and then within working with the system, trying to find 344 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,919 Speaker 2: partners who get it, who are excited, and try to 345 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 2: forge those types of relationships. 346 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 3: That is so important. But it also sounds like it 347 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:23,159 Speaker 3: is difficult to do. And so can you talk to 348 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 3: us about what? What the lady if you're watching us 349 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 3: on video on Patreon, the facial expression that Felicia just 350 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 3: made when I said that it's difficult. 351 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 4: To do, that's real. 352 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 3: That's that's real. That the facial expression just has set 353 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:46,919 Speaker 3: it all. But when you think about the difficulty in 354 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 3: pursuing your passion in this way right and making sure 355 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:55,679 Speaker 3: that the stories of honeys are really being told, that 356 00:18:55,840 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 3: takes a lot, right, And in order to sustain the work, 357 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:03,959 Speaker 3: we know that we have to what I you know, 358 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 3: what we talk about all the time is that you 359 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:11,159 Speaker 3: can't pour from an empty cup, no, And so what 360 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:15,479 Speaker 3: are the things that you do to fill your cup, 361 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 3: to keep you that gives you the energy to do 362 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 3: this work and maybe also inspire some of your writing. 363 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 2: Absolutely, I mean, I think that was one piece that 364 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:31,679 Speaker 2: really I found out early on coming into Hollywood. But 365 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 2: also from an artist's standpoint, I realized that the more 366 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 2: self work that I do, number one, the better my 367 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 2: craft is because I'm able to access emotions that I'm 368 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 2: trying to transition and transfer on to the page. So 369 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 2: I do a lot of self work in terms of 370 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 2: journaling and therapy, and a lot of introspective shadow work 371 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 2: to try to get to like childhood shicks, you know, 372 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 2: that's where it all comes from. But then I do 373 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 2: stuff like hiking. I love the beach out. One thing 374 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 2: that I do love about California is the weather. So 375 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 2: the beach and hiking. I go hiking every weekend with 376 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 2: my homegirl and we talk shit and then we go 377 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 2: to brunh and I love to find, you know, I 378 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 2: love just like joyful moments and opportunities. 379 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 5: I tend to prioritize joy my life. 380 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 2: One of my other quotes is that my only full 381 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,439 Speaker 2: time job is to protect my black joy, and I 382 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 2: take that very seriously, and then things like fucking you 383 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 2: know what I mean like that, I think is really 384 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 2: important that we don't talk to us about in terms 385 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 2: of touch and pleasure. And so I have to do 386 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:37,400 Speaker 2: all the things because it is very difficult. And then 387 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 2: sometimes I just have to take a break. Sometimes I 388 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 2: have to extend grace myself when I say why am 389 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 2: I doing this? 390 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:43,400 Speaker 4: See? 391 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:43,959 Speaker 5: You know what I mean? 392 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 2: When I have those conversations typically with my home girls 393 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 2: and my sister friends, of like, you know, this, this 394 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 2: ambition and this and this gift is a lot. How 395 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 2: do I make sure that I don't burn out? How 396 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 2: do I make sure that they don't push. 397 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 5: Me out right? 398 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 2: Because it's designed to push us out right. So then 399 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,159 Speaker 2: that's why I'm always like, too, how can we be 400 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 2: building so that we can be walking in a purpose 401 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 2: without Hollywood or without whatever insert racist institution you know, 402 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 2: Like I'm always making sure that there are ways to 403 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 2: be walking in the purpose without About. 404 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 4: That, I just want to say, I really appreciate I 405 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 4: just appreciate your entire answer. But I remember years ago, 406 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 4: like this is before like podcasts and red table talking, 407 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 4: these deep conversations from black women were being had in 408 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 4: a public form. I remember just battling with the multifacets 409 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 4: of myself and not seeing that displayed, like women who 410 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 4: are strong, who are smart, who are educated, but who 411 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,199 Speaker 4: can also say and fucking And it's like, you know, 412 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 4: I just had to say, I just had to call 413 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 4: that out because we celebrate the multi faceted women here 414 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 4: on the podcast, and I think that's so important. It's 415 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 4: so important for us to show all the facets of ourselves. 416 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 4: And so this is just a quick little seque I 417 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 4: want to I'd love for you to tell us about 418 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 4: something about being a producer that the average person just 419 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 4: wouldn't know because it's not part of our world and 420 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 4: our process. Like, what's something that you can just share 421 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:07,919 Speaker 4: with us about that. 422 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 2: I don't know if the average person knows how many 423 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 2: iterations projects go through. So, for instance, I'm working on 424 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 2: this proof of concept, which is a short version of 425 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 2: a feature film essentially, and the short is ten pages. 426 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 2: And in the past couple of weeks, I've done six 427 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:29,640 Speaker 2: drafts of this short film and I've had it read twice. 428 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 2: I did a punch up broom of two of my 429 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 2: writer friends. And this is just for a ten page short. 430 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,639 Speaker 2: So when you think about features when you think about 431 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 2: something like I really love and how many iterations just 432 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 2: on the page, and then how many iterations when you're 433 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 2: actually shooting it, and then how many iterations when you're 434 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 2: in the post room, and then how many voices are involved. 435 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,439 Speaker 2: Sometimes it's a really great collaborative process. But then you 436 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,159 Speaker 2: have voices that you have the balance for different agendas 437 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 2: and different egos. So I don't know if the the 438 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 2: average person knows. Now, not everybody does this with their work. 439 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 2: You know, some people slap that shit on screen, and 440 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 2: you can tell. 441 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 5: But when you're. 442 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 2: Really serious about the craft, and you're really serious about 443 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 2: your craft and also the audience for what you are representing, right, 444 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 2: Like my thing is like I can't slap it on 445 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 2: the screen because. 446 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,479 Speaker 5: My mama, Mama had to read it. 447 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 2: Mama. I got the past from my mama, read like 448 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 2: the fifth Past. 449 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:22,199 Speaker 5: She was happy with it. 450 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 2: You know, Like I'm representing my mama and also the 451 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 2: people that I imagine and think about in terms of 452 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,159 Speaker 2: black people. So I can't just slap some shit on 453 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 2: the screen. But it's a lot of work. It's a 454 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 2: lot of work. It's a lot of fun. 455 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 4: That's good to know, thank you for being so transparent 456 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 4: or real about the process. And kind of going back 457 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 4: to what I said before about the multifacets, We're gonna 458 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 4: shift up the energy of this conversation. And because we recognize, appreciate, 459 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 4: and celebrate the multi faceted woman. And we believe that 460 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:55,719 Speaker 4: it's okay to be bougie and classy, all that okay, 461 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 4: all the things I write, every single one, and we 462 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 4: believe that you can still be again and dance your 463 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 4: strip club music. So we want to invite you to 464 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 4: the ou Blatchett segments. So do you take on the 465 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:08,120 Speaker 4: challenge fully? 466 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:08,360 Speaker 2: Shure? 467 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 4: I do. 468 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 5: I'm ready, I'm ready. 469 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 4: All right, we got you. Now that you've agreed, we're 470 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 4: going to tell you what to expect. So we are 471 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 4: going to ask you three questions. We're going to share 472 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 4: three sentence completions, and then we have three photos pulled 473 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 4: up of you on the big screen which will show 474 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 4: you in a moment. But we want you to choose 475 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,360 Speaker 4: the number from one to three, and then we'll show 476 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 4: you that picture, and we want you to provide more 477 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,679 Speaker 4: context about the photo that we wouldn't know having not 478 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 4: been there. All right, right, all right, you're going to 479 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 4: kick it off. 480 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 3: All right, let's do this. So our first question, what's 481 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 3: the best piece of wisdom or advice you've ever received? 482 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 2: I didn't take it, but free drakes. Oh, I got 483 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 2: that from an exact when I first moved out here. 484 00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,679 Speaker 2: I was like, and I asked her in terms of 485 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 2: like some advice you'd give, you know, some writer trying 486 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 2: to make it. She said, freeze your eggs, and that 487 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 2: was some good advice. 488 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 4: Thank you for dropping the game. All Right, you heard 489 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 4: your lady, you heard the wisdom right here. Okay, we 490 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 4: just saw our next question. It's a very easy question. 491 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 4: It's very short. I'm just going to give you four words. Okay, 492 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 4: it's work or two step what you're doing. 493 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 2: I'm too stepping at this moment in my life. I'm 494 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,159 Speaker 2: too stepping. I'm not working for free, you know what 495 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 2: I mean? 496 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 4: Like, Oh, if you got them one, are you paying 497 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 4: or not? 498 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 2: Okay? 499 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 3: For free? 500 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 5: I love it. 501 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 4: I love that. 502 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 3: I should be on the shirt. I don't know. 503 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 2: I don't work for free period. If I with my girls, 504 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 2: that's something different. But I don't about. 505 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 3: Yep, that's real. I'm with you, all right. The next question, 506 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 3: what is the sexiest item you own. 507 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 2: I would just say me naked, Like I feel like 508 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,679 Speaker 2: there's not much sexier than that, you know what I mean. 509 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, maybe lingreie, but no naked naked. 510 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 3: I know. 511 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 1: That's right. 512 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 4: We've had some very interesting answers, but I love this one. 513 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 4: I love it. 514 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 5: Just me glatter. 515 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,199 Speaker 4: That's it, Okay, I'm going to move into sentence completion. 516 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:24,120 Speaker 4: So our first sentence completion is one question or topic 517 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,880 Speaker 4: I wish people ask me about more often. 518 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 2: Is my craft. I would like to talk about craft more. 519 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, since you put it out there, our next 520 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 3: sentence completion is the one thing I wish people knew 521 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:46,679 Speaker 3: about my craft is I think it's kind of what 522 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,879 Speaker 3: we talk about, Like, I put a lot of work 523 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 3: into my shit, Like and also. 524 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 2: I'm really good at what I do and I take 525 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 2: it very seriously. But like, I put a lot of 526 00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 2: time into what I do, even like, yes, the talent 527 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 2: is there, but I put a lot. 528 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 5: Of hours in a lot of hours. 529 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 4: What is just to kind of take a little detour, 530 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 4: what does that process look like for you? Like, are 531 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 4: you what does your setting look like when you're like 532 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,719 Speaker 4: in the zone, you're in flow, Like, what does it 533 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 4: need to be for you to really tap in. 534 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's probably like hoodie up. 535 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:20,440 Speaker 5: I have music on. 536 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 2: Sometimes I like my candle if I can, but I'm 537 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 2: usually like the hood kind of creates this cucoon side 538 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 2: the hood up, and I'm just like in it, you know, 539 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 2: I'm in it. I mean, I've learned to write everywhere, 540 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 2: but I've now have an office that I love that 541 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 2: I like have kind of made a sanctuary in that way. 542 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 2: But yeah, the hoodie is usually up when it's when 543 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 2: it's goal time. 544 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 4: It ain't this. I love it. It's not the glam. 545 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 4: It's like hoodie on. I love it. I feel we 546 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 4: got so many quotables. 547 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,399 Speaker 2: Saying my glasses hoodie and glasses is I'm really tapped? 548 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:56,400 Speaker 3: Okay? 549 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 5: Do you put my going in? 550 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,439 Speaker 4: Going in with the hoodies and glasses? I love it 551 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 4: so our last sentence completion is. What I love most 552 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 4: about myself is. 553 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 2: How joyful I can be, Like I really feel like 554 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:14,879 Speaker 2: I enjoy the little moments, I enjoy the big moments. 555 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 2: I actively pursue joy. And I love that about me 556 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,880 Speaker 2: because I think that it can be infectious. 557 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 5: Yes, I love that. 558 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 4: Amen to that, So Alicia, get ready now I want 559 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,919 Speaker 4: to say, we fly pictures of you. 560 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,360 Speaker 2: I want some crazy ass pictures of the internetemy. I've 561 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 2: seen the old headshots that. 562 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 4: Let me just say these pictures right here, they're going 563 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 4: to understand why you said you being naked as you 564 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 4: sexy sex? What I want to say that you have 565 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 4: to choose a number between We have to choose one 566 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 4: to three, and then we're going to pull one of 567 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 4: the photos up. So I just see what I choose two? 568 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 6: Two? 569 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 4: Okay, okay, let me see two. Okay, two is not 570 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 4: Tuesday nights. All right, let's take a look at you 571 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 4: and Felicia. Some people are not going to be watching, 572 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 4: so you can describe the photo and then give us 573 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 4: the context. Here we go. 574 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 2: Ah, So this is me celebrating my fortieth birthday party 575 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 2: at Isabelle in West Hollywood, and I have one as 576 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 2: dressed with my ass was fantastic if I met saying 577 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 2: so myself, it's like and I love leper print or 578 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 2: like animal print, so I have all this little animal 579 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 2: print number. But this was such a joyous day because 580 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 2: like people, I'll be honest, I don't like a lot 581 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 2: of people, but like the people I like, I love them, 582 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 2: so people who I love came out and we had 583 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 2: a fantastic, fabulous bougie brunh young intergenerational too, like some 584 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 2: of my daughters, my younger my little daughters were there, 585 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 2: then my homies, and we had so much fun. 586 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 5: We had so much fun this day. And I was 587 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 5: turning forty when I became a honey. 588 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 4: It looks like, oh, vibe think amazing. 589 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 5: Thank you for doing that. That's why that's such a 590 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 5: fantastic memory. 591 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 4: You are so bad. You are welcome that picture. 592 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 3: So Felicia, we have had an amazing time with me too. 593 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 2: This is one of the one of the better interviews 594 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 2: I've done, Like I've done some great interviews, but this 595 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 2: has been so much fun. 596 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 4: Yes, we love it. 597 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 5: Thank you. 598 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 3: So we know that our audience is going to feel 599 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 3: those vibes as they're listening or as they're watching on 600 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 3: Patreon and so, and our audience is going to want 601 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 3: to know where they can connect with you in addition 602 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 3: to seeing your work on the screen and hearing your podcast. 603 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 3: Where can they connect with you? 604 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, So you can watch really Love on Netflix. You 605 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 2: can watch my short film Tender at tendermovie dot com. 606 00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 2: You can follow me on ig at Feliciapride dot com 607 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 2: and you can follow Honey Child on It's Honeychild and you'll. 608 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 5: Learn where you can listen to Child. Please our podcast 609 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 5: on anywhere you listen to podcasts. 610 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 4: Yay, all right, lady, you got it, so tap in foul, Felicia, 611 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 4: watch the film, support comment all that good stuff. Felicia. 612 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 4: We appreciate you so much. 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