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Speaker 1: Wow, Hey everybody in his Wednesday, January Welcome to the

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Speaker 1: NFL Fantasy Football Podcast where we're not sending those refunds.

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Speaker 1: It's being your man n FG. Marcus Grant, joined by

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Speaker 1: Michael f Florio and out there. And we do have

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Speaker 1: right now. Let's play for them because they are still

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Speaker 1: helping us put the show together even though we are

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Speaker 1: down down to once a week. Uh. Florio, Um, you

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Speaker 1: and I have not spoken since before last weekend. One,

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Speaker 1: how are you feeling? And two? Have you made up

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Speaker 1: with Bill's Mafia right now? One? I am feeling for you.

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Speaker 1: Happy your team advanced, thanks and played great for my team.

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Speaker 1: I if you asked me what the scenario like how

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Speaker 1: like scenario ten for me. Uh. So, I was very

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Speaker 1: much so caught off guard. Uh But Bill's Mafia loves

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Speaker 1: me this week because I put like a huge thread

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Speaker 1: out about everything that's been wrong with the Bills this

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Speaker 1: season and and the way they've been building the team,

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Speaker 1: and it kind of went viral and Buffalo so at

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Speaker 1: least the fans kind of like me right now. All right,

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Speaker 1: well that's cool. Uh yeah, I know that you were

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Speaker 1: very very popular amongst bills, media, bills, mafia bills, media,

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Speaker 1: uh for a little while. So you know, it's it's

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Speaker 1: good that you guys are sort of having your Catharsis

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Speaker 1: back at the divisional weekend and sort of take stock

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Speaker 1: from the teams that got bounced. Will continue our preseason

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Speaker 1: stock watch handful of guys who have maybe not always

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Speaker 1: what we think about them going forward for next year,

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Speaker 1: because we can never start thinking about next year too soon.

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Speaker 1: And of course we will look ahead to championship Sunday.

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Speaker 1: The four teams remaining, there are three games of note

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Speaker 1: It should be fun, oh yeah, fun, but but Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't. It doesn't really count for anything. I want

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Speaker 1: to see dodgeball. That's always my favorite. Yeah, you get

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Speaker 1: guys who could throw a football sixty miles. If you

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Speaker 1: the way I look at it right there. But let's

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Speaker 1: over the past weekend. Four games on tap, and all

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Speaker 1: of them were entertaining. There was a beat down in

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Speaker 1: lot of optimism about this team for next year. What

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Speaker 1: Like it's a lot of Michael Hasty right now. But

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Speaker 1: But let's get this guy more involved in the passing game.

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Speaker 1: Only thirty five catches in the regular season, this is

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Speaker 1: a guy that I think should be finishing the season

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Speaker 1: the thing that works against him next year in that

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Speaker 1: But Calvin Ridley is supposed to join this team provided

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Speaker 1: great year. He's a QB one this season, no questions

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Speaker 1: he's gonna be behind Mahomes, Alan Jalen Hurts, Joe Burrow,

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Speaker 1: those should be the first eight quarterbacks drafted next season.

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Speaker 1: After that, I think Daniel Jones is in the conversation

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Speaker 1: like would you rather have Daniel Jones or Geno Smith?

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Speaker 1: Would you rather have Jones or cousins Jones or goff? Uh?

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Speaker 1: There's still Brady and Rodgers who probably won't go away.

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Speaker 1: he ran for over seven hundred yards of this past year,

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Speaker 1: seven rushing touchdowns. The thing I also liked is that

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Speaker 1: let's put everything Weeken and Josh Allen and hope that

429
00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:48,640
Speaker 1: we can just outscore teams in the playoffs. It's weird

430
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Speaker 1: that we're sitting here talking about an offense that was

431
00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,919
Speaker 1: number two in d v O A. Uh, you know,

432
00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,840
Speaker 1: they were the second best offense for football outsiders, and

433
00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,080
Speaker 1: yet were like they need more help, they have to

434
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Speaker 1: do more. I don't want to make this, you know,

435
00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:06,080
Speaker 1: a Bills podcast, but the reactions to to Josh Allen

436
00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:09,080
Speaker 1: after this game have been crazy. I've seen people say

437
00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,440
Speaker 1: he's not a top five quarterback. I've seen people say

438
00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,040
Speaker 1: he's overrated. I've seen people say he's not on a

439
00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:16,640
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame trajectory, he's not an m v P guy,

440
00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,000
Speaker 1: he's all and I'm like, what are what are we

441
00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:22,720
Speaker 1: doing here? Like I get it, we're spoiled from Patrick Mahomes.

442
00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,480
Speaker 1: If Patrick Mahomes didn't exist right now, we would be

443
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Speaker 1: like Josh Allen is the best quarterback walking the planet.

444
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Speaker 1: I feel like, so I know that after games before

445
00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,480
Speaker 1: the media can come in and talk to guys, like

446
00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,240
Speaker 1: there's a cooling off period right like teams get I

447
00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,440
Speaker 1: don't know what it is, minutes something like that to

448
00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:42,040
Speaker 1: sort of okay, games over, let's decompress, take a breath,

449
00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:43,919
Speaker 1: and then you know, we'll have the reporters come in

450
00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:47,439
Speaker 1: and talk. I think fans need that too, right like

451
00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,960
Speaker 1: after after your team loses. You need that, you know,

452
00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,480
Speaker 1: I don't give your give yourself twenty four hours before

453
00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:57,600
Speaker 1: you start firing off takes right because um you know,

454
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Speaker 1: like you talk about it with Josh, I want and

455
00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:04,320
Speaker 1: I've seen it with Dak Prescott. Just everybody just suddenly

456
00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:08,000
Speaker 1: you look two weeks ago, when the Cowboys beat the

457
00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:11,240
Speaker 1: snot out of the Buccaneers, Dak Prescott was amazing, right,

458
00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,600
Speaker 1: he was, He was elite and it was great that

459
00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:15,400
Speaker 1: the Cowboys paying him. Then they lose to the forty

460
00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:19,080
Speaker 1: niners and Dak Prescott is a bum and I can't

461
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Speaker 1: believe that they even offer him a ham sandwich on

462
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,240
Speaker 1: a weekly basis. What is the what are the Cowboys doing? Like,

463
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,920
Speaker 1: let's just let's just pause. And I agree we need

464
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Speaker 1: a pause. But if you're gonna put the blame on anyone,

465
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Speaker 1: I know Dak Prescott through the interceptions, I know Dak

466
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Speaker 1: Prescott isn't isn't perfect, No one is. Jerry Jones deserves

467
00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:40,359
Speaker 1: more of the blame. I think because the Cowboys in

468
00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,840
Speaker 1: their front office chose, they made the choice to trade

469
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Speaker 1: a Marii Cooper and to give Michael Gallup a bunch

470
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Speaker 1: of money coming off of a c L surgery. I

471
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Speaker 1: was happy at the time because I was like, this

472
00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:55,639
Speaker 1: is great for for fantasy purposes. But yes, I'm gonna

473
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Speaker 1: say yesterday Sunday was the clear example of like Dak

474
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Speaker 1: Prescott needs some help around him as well, like Ceedee

475
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 1: Lamb is great, Dalton Schultz is very good. Once Tony

476
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,240
Speaker 1: Pollard went down, though, that was kind of it for

477
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,680
Speaker 1: this offense. Kind of was it? I mean, I think

478
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,199
Speaker 1: it spoke volumes that they went out and added t

479
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 1: Y Hilton late in the season to try and give

480
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 1: him some give back, some receiving help. That seemed like

481
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,439
Speaker 1: a perfect way to segue to the last game of

482
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Speaker 1: the weekend, the fort a nineteen to twelve winner over

483
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 1: the Cowboys in a game that was hard fought and

484
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 1: close throughout. I think it was. It was a one

485
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 1: score game the entire sixty minutes. UH in that one,

486
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Speaker 1: and you mentioned Tony Pollard because his injury definitely changed

487
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Speaker 1: what the Cowboys wanted to do offensively. He uh suffered

488
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,920
Speaker 1: a high ankle sprain and a broken fibulars. The reports

489
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 1: are positive in the sense that they expect he should

490
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 1: be plenty ready to go by the time next training camp.

491
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Speaker 1: Rolls around, so uh, in that respect, he's going to

492
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Speaker 1: be good to go. The other sort of wrinkle here, though,

493
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Speaker 1: is I believe he's a free agent. So Tony Pollard,

494
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Speaker 1: you know, may or may not be back in Dallas,

495
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:01,480
Speaker 1: and I think after what we saw from him this

496
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:05,159
Speaker 1: past season, there will be plenty of teams ready to

497
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Speaker 1: offer him good money for his services. Let's let's assume

498
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 1: let's assume he lands somewhere where he is going to

499
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Speaker 1: be v RB one on that roster, whether it's Dallas,

500
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 1: whether it's somewhere else. What is Tony pollard ceiling in

501
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Speaker 1: the overall RB one? I think, Wow, I am very

502
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:29,159
Speaker 1: very high on Tony Pollard. I that's this ultimate ceiling. Like,

503
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 1: I think I would comfortably rank him as an RB one.

504
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 1: I think the realistic upside is top five. But I

505
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,119
Speaker 1: think there's a non zero chance he could lead the

506
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 1: position because um, he's so explosive, and I think he

507
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Speaker 1: would go to a team and be used. I don't

508
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 1: want to say he's a perfect comparison to like a

509
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 1: CMC or an Eckler, but use him in that role,

510
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 1: let him get out wide on runs, let him get

511
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 1: used a bunch in the passing game. To me, I

512
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 1: think the ideal situation would be to keep Tony Pollard

513
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Speaker 1: and let Ezekiel Elliott walk from Dallas. But I just

514
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,399
Speaker 1: don't think because of Zeke's contract, I don't think that

515
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 1: will be the case. But I think Tony Pollard, I mean,

516
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Speaker 1: he's He's one of the best outside runners in the league.

517
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,159
Speaker 1: He's so explosive, he could be used near the goal line,

518
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,119
Speaker 1: he could be used in the passing game. There's a

519
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 1: whole lot to like about him. I'm curious what the

520
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,680
Speaker 1: Cowboys do with Zeke because I think that will tell

521
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:24,359
Speaker 1: us a lot about what they want to do with

522
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Speaker 1: Pollard if, for whatever reason, they decided to get out

523
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Speaker 1: from underneath Zeke's contract, right if they decided to eat

524
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 1: some of it and let him go, if they try

525
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Speaker 1: to trade him, although I don't know who would trade

526
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Speaker 1: for Ezekiel Elliott at this point, Um, I think that

527
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,879
Speaker 1: informs us a lot about what the Cowboys will do

528
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Speaker 1: with Tony Pollard. I'm with you. I think he has

529
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Speaker 1: sort of that that ability to be one of those

530
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Speaker 1: dual threat running backs out there. Um. Dwayne McFarland, who's

531
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 1: incredibly smart, always talks about archetypes, right, and and you

532
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,199
Speaker 1: know sort of the way guys are used and what

533
00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 1: their skill set is, and the reason love guys like

534
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,360
Speaker 1: McCaffrey and Eckler that they're always on the field, they

535
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 1: get a ton of targets, they're effective in the running game.

536
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Speaker 1: And Paulard showed us that he could be that. Not

537
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 1: only could he be that, he could be that with

538
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 1: a good workload. Right. That was the question for me,

539
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,399
Speaker 1: and I think a lot of people last year was Okay,

540
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 1: sure he's great in small doses, can he be as

541
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 1: efficient when he is the guy? And I think we

542
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 1: saw that when Elliott went down with an injury at

543
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Speaker 1: some point during the season, that he was getting thirty

544
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 1: touches a game and was just as explosive and just

545
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 1: as productive. So maybe in the right situation, maybe the

546
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Speaker 1: RB one overall isn't the most ridicous. It when you

547
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 1: first think about you're like, wow, number one overall, and

548
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 1: then you think about what he can do, what he

549
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,880
Speaker 1: can be in place in the right situation, maybe it's

550
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 1: a conversation worth having. Um, I'm just very interested. Would

551
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:52,959
Speaker 1: you want to see him in Dallas or is there

552
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 1: somewhere else better? You'd like to see him go. Um,

553
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 1: I would love to see him in Dallas if either

554
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,360
Speaker 1: Zeke was moved or if they were like, hey, we're

555
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 1: just gonna use Zeke in short yard situations. Um, the

556
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 1: Raiders would be if they let Josh Jacobs walk, maybe

557
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 1: they decide to replay. I don't know, uh, if they'll

558
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 1: go that route. UM, I get the feeling Josh Jacob

559
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 1: just coming back. He says he wants to come back.

560
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 1: I could see that, especially weird after week week seventeen,

561
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,360
Speaker 1: just think it's gonna happen. But he says he wants

562
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 1: to come back now, especially if they bring in like

563
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 1: a Tom Brady, I could see. Uh, I could see

564
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 1: him staying there a lot. Um Miami, Miami. I think

565
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,119
Speaker 1: it would be a lot of fun if if they

566
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,159
Speaker 1: were to pay him. If my Vikings friend friend that

567
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 1: I've rented the other day, he swears that Dalvin Cook

568
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 1: is going to be released this offseason. So if they

569
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 1: go that route, maybe maybe the Vikings, uh, just somewhere

570
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 1: where they're gonna throw him in the ball. And I know,

571
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:48,199
Speaker 1: saying top five sounds crazy, maybe even or potentially RB

572
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 1: one of the top five running backs this past season,

573
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Speaker 1: Derrick Henry was the only one that had less than

574
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 1: fifty catches, So it has to be someone that can

575
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 1: be heavily involved in the passing game. And clearly Tony

576
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,120
Speaker 1: poll is that guy, right. I mean, Derrick Henry can

577
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:06,199
Speaker 1: be that because he's Derrick Henry. Right, He's gonna run

578
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 1: for yards, he's gonna get you double digit touchdowns. That's

579
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,239
Speaker 1: a that's a big burden to put on pretty much

580
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 1: anybody else, So that that partly makes it hard for

581
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 1: for Tony Pollard there. But he's gonna be one of

582
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 1: the interesting names to watch this offseason to sort of

583
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,879
Speaker 1: see what happens. UM still gonna do a look ahead

584
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 1: to championship Sunday, but before we hit a break, I

585
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 1: want to kind of do another preseason stock watch. We

586
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 1: did one last week. This one, Uh, some guys who

587
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 1: I think you're sort of interesting based on what we

588
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,440
Speaker 1: saw out of them this past week the first one.

589
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 1: And I did this because I just, you know, because

590
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 1: you have to talk about this guy. This is it's

591
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 1: part of your contract here, Darius Tony, and it's funny. Uh.

592
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 1: During the game, he had a couple of nice runs,

593
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 1: a little catching runs and Lewis Riddick from ESPN tweeted

594
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: out to Darius Tony is a beast, and John Shipley,

595
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: who's the excellent beat writer for the Jacksonville Jaguars quote

596
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 1: tweeted it and said this gets tweeted every week. And

597
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 1: you look at Tony only has thirty seven yards and

598
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 1: I feel like that's absolutely accurate. Right. We watched him

599
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 1: make a player tour like man, just dude's amazing, and

600
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 1: then like you look and he plays like thirty of

601
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 1: the snaps he has like you know, three yards, maybe

602
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 1: a couple of catches and that's sort of it. But

603
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 1: he can do so much with the ball in his hands.

604
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 1: When we talk about Cadarius Tony next year, I mean,

605
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 1: I don't I don't think he's more than you know,

606
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 1: mid to late round option. But is there is there

607
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 1: the opportunity for something bigger and better in Kansas City? Yeah?

608
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 1: I I And you're a good friend, Dayne McFarland. I

609
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 1: saw him tweeting about Caldarius Tony the other day getting

610
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Speaker 1: a larger role in Kansas City, and I was like, yeah,

611
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 1: I'm ready to get hurt again. Be back in on

612
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 1: Cadarius Tony next year. If if the Kansas City you know,

613
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 1: goes out and get to DeAndre Hopkins or someone like that.

614
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 1: Another target value of vacuum next to um Travis Kelsey,

615
00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 1: but Caldarius Tony even what he's doing right now, like

616
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 1: on a per touch basis, per route basis, he's putting

617
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 1: up numbers. Uh. The only concern I have for him

618
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 1: his health. And I'm I guess also usage a little bit,

619
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Speaker 1: because if there's a team that would keep a player

620
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 1: like Tony and use him as like a gadget type,

621
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 1: it's the Chiefs because that's what Andy Reid does. But

622
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 1: if they were to just let this guy play receiver

623
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 1: and be on the field for the majority of the snaps,

624
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 1: I think he can put up big numbers. And the

625
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 1: best part is everyone I think it's gonna be have

626
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 1: Tony fatigue right like after this past season, people like

627
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 1: myself talking him up all summer all season long. Not

628
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 1: a whole lot happening. Fantasy wise, He'll probably be even

629
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 1: cheaper than he was last year. The thing that that

630
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 1: is worrisome is that for all of the explosiveness and

631
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 1: all of the elusiveness that he has, he never really

632
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 1: broke out on a team that that was looking for

633
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 1: wide receiver help. Right, it was Travis Kelsey and kind

634
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 1: of everybody else. You couldn't You couldn't count on Juju weekly,

635
00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 1: you couldn't count on m vs. I mean, sky More

636
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 1: barely get off the bench. Um. Yet through it all,

637
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 1: it wasn't like Tony was going out there and earning

638
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 1: all these snaps and all these targets. So that is

639
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 1: a little bit worries. In fact, I'm looking I'm looking

640
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 1: right now at his his snap chart for the season

641
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 1: since he joined Kansas City. Right, uh, the first week

642
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 1: he was there, he had nine not really a surprise,

643
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 1: you know, they were he had just gotten there. Fourteen.

644
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 1: They missed a couple of games with injury five seventeen,

645
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 1: nineteen eighteen. I mean, that's just going through the end

646
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 1: of the regular season. Just never was on the field

647
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 1: a lot, and that I don't know that that sort

648
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 1: of raises a little bit of a red flag for me.

649
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 1: But he's gonna be one of those guys who, because

650
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 1: of ability, because of what we see with him occasionally

651
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 1: when he gets the ball in his hands, Um, it's

652
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 1: going to be intriguing. It's just gonna be a guy

653
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 1: that we keep an eye on another Chief, Isaiah Pacheco,

654
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 1: who early on in that game against Jacksonville had some

655
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 1: nice runs, made some big plays. We did see a

656
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 1: lot of Jerick mckinnons sort of in the in half

657
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 1: of that game. But the Chiefs we are envious. We

658
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 1: are we are desirous of a Chief's running back being productive,

659
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 1: right because we love that offense. We want parts of

660
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 1: it we can't seem to find one. Is Pacheco potentially

661
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 1: going to be that guy that we can hang our

662
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 1: hat on in Kansas City. I think he will be

663
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: like a useful fantasy RB two reflects guy. I I

664
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 1: don't see his volume, his value being a whole lot

665
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: different than it was in the second half of the

666
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 1: season where he was the guy. He was the lead

667
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 1: running back for the Chiefs, but Jack McKinnon was the

668
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 1: one that you wanted for fantasy. Because I ultimately I

669
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 1: think Pacheco will be the between the tackles guy. He'll

670
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 1: he'll have some breakaway runs at times, he'll get some touchdowns,

671
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 1: but the past game usage like they'll probably just resigned

672
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 1: Jack McKinnon and run this back like and if that happens,

673
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 1: I think that is a big hamper on Isaiah Pochecko

674
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 1: ceiling and what the upside could be. So he is

675
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 1: someone that I could see getting overvalue next year going

676
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 1: off the board. Is a top twenty running back, maybe

677
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: even a little bit higher than that. And if that's

678
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 1: the case, I'll tell you right now, I won't have

679
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 1: any Isaiah. But yeah, you know, if that's if that's

680
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 1: the asking prize for Isaiah Pacheco, then I am completely people.

681
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 1: I I was trying to kind of get into Isaiah

682
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 1: Pacheco until Patrick Claiban pointed out the fact that he

683
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 1: takes a lot of steps and doesn't really seem to

684
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 1: get anywhere, that he seems to be a whole lot

685
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 1: of motion, like sound and fury signifying that a whole

686
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 1: lot and like once Patrick said that, I couldn't unsee it.

687
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 1: Um Also the fact that you know, in seventeen games

688
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 1: he had fourteen targets. He is zero part of the

689
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 1: running game. And the other part of that is in

690
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 1: an offense like Kansas City that scores a lot, you

691
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 1: would think that, okay, having a running back on that team,

692
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 1: they're in position to score touchdowns, he should get a

693
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 1: lot of opportunities. He had five rushing touchdowns because when

694
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 1: they get to the goal line, they're so tricky. They'll

695
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 1: do any number of things. You know. They may they

696
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 1: may run a shovel pass to Travis Kelsey, Mahomes may

697
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 1: take it himself. They may throw the ball. There's just

698
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 1: no guarantee that, Hey, you know what, we're on the two,

699
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 1: we're gonna turn around in hand. It's was Isaia Pacheco.

700
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 1: And you know who I feel more confident about getting

701
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:10,240
Speaker 1: the touchdown than Pacheco. Jack McKinnon, who said that literally

702
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 1: broke the record for most consecutive games where they receiving

703
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:17,479
Speaker 1: touchdown by a running back. Isaiah Pacheco had two games

704
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,840
Speaker 1: over fifteen Fantasy points. Is high was sixteen. He is

705
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 1: what I a lot of the times. What I said

706
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 1: on Fantasy Live and stuff was like really a safe floor.

707
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 1: Like if you need ten points out of a running back,

708
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 1: start Isaiah Pacheco. But if you're looking for more than that,

709
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 1: you're probably gonna be disappointed most weeks because he's gonna

710
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:38,320
Speaker 1: give you ten, eleven, twelve. Like if you're not catching passes,

711
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 1: a hundred yards is great, but a hundred yards equals

712
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 1: ten Fantasy points. If if you need eight points, He'll

713
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 1: get you ten. If you need fifteen points, he'll get

714
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 1: you ten. Um. And before we move on from the Chiefs,

715
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 1: real quick points. I was looking this up what we

716
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 1: were talking about. Tony since he became a Chief he

717
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 1: averaged two point six yards per out run, including the playoffs.

718
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 1: The only players higher than him Chacka Konquo and Davante Adams.

719
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 1: Wow on, there's no one better on a per touch

720
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 1: basis than Tony. You just gotta get him up, but

721
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 1: you gotta get him on the field. Can he can

722
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 1: he stay on the field, That's the big question. That

723
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 1: is going to be the big question. Let us turn

724
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 1: our attention from the Chiefs to the Eagles. Miles Sanders

725
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 1: before the season, we know the story. He said, don't

726
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 1: draft me, and fantasy and a ottomus were like, bet Uh,

727
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 1: we didn't And a lot of us had egg on

728
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,399
Speaker 1: our face because he ended up having a very good

729
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 1: year down the stretch though. Uh, you saw him losing

730
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 1: touches to Kenneth Gainwell. And I'm just looking at the

731
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 1: last three games, right, the last two games of the

732
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:40,359
Speaker 1: regular season and the one game they've played in the playoffs. Uh,

733
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 1: Sanders he's out snapping gain Well most of the time.

734
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: In a week seventeen, it was twenty two to eighteen,

735
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 1: with Boston Scott mixing in there. In Week eighteen, twenty

736
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 1: nine to twenty for Sanders over gain Well. Actually it

737
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: was a Boston Scott with the second most snaps in

738
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 1: week eighteen. That one, I think is an asterisk because

739
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: the Eagles weren't saying everybody. But in the playoff game,

740
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 1: Kenneth Ganewell had twenty nine snaps, Miles Sanders had eight,

741
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 1: Boston Scott had sixteen, and again I get it, that

742
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 1: was a beat down. So maybe they're sort of saving

743
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 1: Miles Sanders a little bit. But I think the point

744
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 1: stands the Eagles aren't ever going to give Miles Sanders

745
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 1: that true workhorse roule. There's always going to be somebody

746
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 1: else there. So then are we back to looking at

747
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 1: Miles Sanders is kind of an RB two? Does he

748
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 1: ever get that RB one love? At some point? He

749
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 1: will not get it from me, at least not if

750
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 1: he's with the Eagles. He is a free agent this year,

751
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: so really curious as to where he ends up. Um.

752
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 1: I do not think Philly is going to resign him um,

753
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 1: and then it just become it ultimately depends where he lands,

754
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 1: what the backfield looks like. But my thinking is Philly

755
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 1: they like what they having Kenny Ganewill, they like what

756
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 1: they have seemingly in Boston Scott. They could probably find

757
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 1: a Miles Sanders replacement on Day two of the draft.

758
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,839
Speaker 1: They want to go that route, maybe free agents. See um,

759
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: I just think this is a team that you know

760
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 1: they're investing into a j Brown. They're gonna have to

761
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 1: soon pay Jalen Hurts, Devanta Smith, They've already paid Dallas Goddard. Like,

762
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 1: you have to be very uh, you have to choose

763
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 1: wisely where you invest your money on the offense. I

764
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 1: don't think they're gonna be like, hey, we need to

765
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 1: pay a running back, because I think they're gonna look

766
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: at it as like, hey, whoever's running behind Jalen Hurts,

767
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 1: pretty good chance they'll put up numbers. Yeah. I think

768
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 1: that's sort of the issues that if you're Philly, do

769
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 1: you invest heavily in a running back when you know

770
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 1: you've got you I'm not gonna say Jalen Hurts as

771
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 1: a running back, but you have a guy who really

772
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 1: does involve himself in the running game and does open

773
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: things up for whoever is there. So maybe it doesn't

774
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,839
Speaker 1: make sense to invest a whole lot in somebody else.

775
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: And I don't know that if Miles Sanders goes anywhere

776
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 1: else that the situation is going to be as good

777
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 1: because I don't think anybody else is going to make

778
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: him an RB one and give him a huge workload. Um,

779
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:58,240
Speaker 1: but it's gonna be hard for him to find and offense,

780
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 1: it's going to be as productive and as as varied

781
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 1: as what he's gonna find in Philadelphia. So maybe we

782
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 1: are back to next year. UM. I won't say don't

783
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 1: draft Miles Sanders, but he's kind of an RB two

784
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 1: at best. I think next year depending on on where

785
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 1: he goes, if he stays in Philly or if he

786
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 1: goes somewhere else. Um. Tee Higgins very good wide receiver.

787
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 1: We had kind of had him as the number two

788
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,879
Speaker 1: behind Jamar Chase and you know, Tyler Boyd. I kept

789
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,280
Speaker 1: saying he was Woody from Toy Story. The buzz Lightyear

790
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,800
Speaker 1: came in and the former Jamar Chase and Joe Burrows like,

791
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 1: I don't want to play with you anymore. Um, But

792
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,359
Speaker 1: now it feels like te Higgins. I won't say he's

793
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 1: fading into the background, but Jamar Chase occupies so much

794
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 1: in that offense that it's hard for Tee Higgins to

795
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 1: continually see a good target share. UM, is he sort

796
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 1: of cap Has he hit his ceiling at this point?

797
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 1: I think he has probably hit his ceiling with the Bengals.

798
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 1: I will say there was two games this year where

799
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: he played, but he really didn't play like he played

800
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 1: like a snap each and to still be at over

801
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 1: a thousand yards seven touchdowns. That was a career high

802
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 1: seven touchdowns, but he easily could have been at like

803
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 1: eleven twelve hundred yards if he was healthy for those

804
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 1: two games. I think it'll be difficult for him to

805
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 1: do a whole lot more than that when you factor

806
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 1: in that Jamaar Chase is there, Hayden Hurst, Tyler Boyd,

807
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 1: the running backs. UM. But I do think this offseason

808
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,919
Speaker 1: is gonna be very big one for T Higgins because

809
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 1: he's entering the final year of his rookie contract and

810
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,359
Speaker 1: the Bengals. I know right now, if you're a Bengals fan,

811
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 1: you don't care about this at all because you're like,

812
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 1: we're playing to get to our second straight Super Bowl

813
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 1: this week. That's all we care about, and that's all

814
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 1: you should care about. But after that, Joe Burrow is

815
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 1: gonna have to get paid soon, and then Tee Higgins

816
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 1: and Jamaar Chase back to back years are gonna be

817
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 1: actually no, yeah, yeah, so they'll have a little bit

818
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 1: of time before that they paid Chase. But I think

819
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 1: this is gonna be the off season where they're gonna

820
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 1: have to decide are we gonna pay t Higgins? Are

821
00:39:58,080 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 1: we gonna deal to Higgins? Because I don't think they

822
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 1: just at his contract expire and he walks. I don't

823
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 1: think they're gonna want to give him the franchise tag.

824
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: So I feel like this offseason we're either going to

825
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 1: get a te Higgins extension and he very much so

826
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 1: deserves it. There's only a handful of teams in the

827
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:15,320
Speaker 1: NFL where he wouldn't be their top receiver. Um, and

828
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 1: if if they don't, if they can't come out to

829
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 1: an agreement, I wouldn't be surprised if we start hearing

830
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 1: his name floated up on the trade room. And they

831
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 1: have a lot of cap space. Um, they've got the

832
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 1: third most cap space right now, so they do have

833
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 1: some room to go out and and sign some extensions,

834
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 1: maybe bring some guys in if that's what they choose

835
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 1: to do. Uh, They've got one more year left for

836
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 1: Tyler Boyd. We'll see what they do with him if

837
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 1: maybe they try to move him, uh and bring something

838
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 1: back for him, because he's Tyler boy just still a

839
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,320
Speaker 1: good receiver. He just you know, he's kind of stuck

840
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 1: behind two other very good receivers there in Cincinnati. But

841
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:48,839
Speaker 1: I do wonder if you know te Higgins and look

842
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 1: for t Higgins to be where he is, Like when

843
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 1: I say has he you know, has he may be

844
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 1: piqued as he hit a ceiling, it's still pretty goods considered.

845
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 1: Like I'm not I'm not trying to sit here and

846
00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 1: say that te Higgins is a bad player. He was

847
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 1: a top twenty fantasy receiver this year, had over a

848
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 1: thousand yards seven touchdowns. Uh. That would be welcome on

849
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 1: any team across the league. But you know, you wonder

850
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 1: if Jamar Chase really has flexed as the alpha, and uh,

851
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 1: that's going to be sort of the end of of Higgins. Uh,

852
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 1: you know, being a potential wide receiver one somewhere Chase

853
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 1: out scored Higgins despite missing all that. Yeah he did, yeah,

854
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:25,760
Speaker 1: which is pretty crazy. Yeah. Absolutely. Last one Elijah Mitchell,

855
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 1: who start of the year we talked about him is

856
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 1: maybe a running back to uh, you know, we had

857
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 1: to worry about his health, which sort of reared its

858
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 1: ugly head again. This is before we knew the forty

859
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: Niners were gonna go out and trade for Christian McCaffrey.

860
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,720
Speaker 1: But even then we still saw a lot of Mitchell,

861
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 1: especially in that game against the Dallas Cowboys. Assuming you know,

862
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 1: everything sort of stays status quo next year with the

863
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,320
Speaker 1: backfield situation, obviously McCaffrey is going to be there, we

864
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 1: don't have to worry about that. Um, are we still

865
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 1: drafting Mitchell? Where? Where are we drafting him? Or are

866
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:02,240
Speaker 1: we drafting him at all? I think there's a path

867
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 1: where some fantasy people might be making the case at

868
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 1: Elijah Mitchell is going to be what we thought a J.

869
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 1: Dillon would be this past year, like the RB two.

870
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 1: But the guy's gonna get a bunch of touches and

871
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 1: get a score a lot of touchdowns and stuff. To me,

872
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: I would only want him as a reserve running back,

873
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 1: like I I'm and probably the double digit rounds because

874
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:27,399
Speaker 1: barring Christian McCaffrey getting hurt, what's the upside, Like, even

875
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 1: what he did last week, ten fourteen carries fifty one yards,

876
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,320
Speaker 1: that's five fantasy points. And that's the thing. He's a

877
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: low floor type of role because they're not gonna stop

878
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 1: throwing the ball to Christian McCaffrey to throw it to

879
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 1: their other running backs like CMC last week had eight targets,

880
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 1: a team high. Like, he's gonna get all the past

881
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 1: game work. He's gonna get some of the goal on

882
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 1: work as well. I think Mitchell is one of those

883
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 1: players that people you could watch him and be like,

884
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 1: he's really good, Like he if he had a right role,

885
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:57,800
Speaker 1: he could be great. And people, you know, all summer

886
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 1: long we do this, they talked themselves into like this

887
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,320
Speaker 1: guy's gonna get a larger role. Look how good he is.

888
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 1: I just don't see it. I think he will have

889
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 1: a role, but I think for fantasy it's a low

890
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 1: floor role. Yeah, I think that's that's sort of it.

891
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 1: The the upside is that the the Niners run the

892
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,799
Speaker 1: football a lot, so there's potential for him to get

893
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 1: a decent number of carries, but you are always gonna

894
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 1: sort of be hoping for a big game. You need

895
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:25,879
Speaker 1: him to have those big pop games and that's gonna

896
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 1: be hard to do in that offense with so many weapons,

897
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 1: with Christian McCaffrey sort of leading the way there. So

898
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: that's gonna be a tough a tough ask for Elijah

899
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,359
Speaker 1: Mitchell pretty much every week. So you're you're probably right

900
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 1: if if he's getting drafted, it's very much at the end,

901
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 1: is very much to kind of fill a spot, uh

902
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 1: and be be insurance if you need He's he's going

903
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 1: to be the insurance policy for Christian McCaffrey if you're

904
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 1: taking him in the first round like a lot of years.

905
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: And there's also the wrinkle of potentially Trey Lance starting

906
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 1: and taking more running work away. I don't know, it

907
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:57,840
Speaker 1: sounds like right now brock Party is the guy that

908
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 1: not Like you're Niners fan, do you want brock Party

909
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 1: next season as a starter? I want a legit competition.

910
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 1: That's what I think. That's fair. I think that's what

911
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 1: I want. And I've I've sort of I've shifted. I

912
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,760
Speaker 1: went from hey man, brock Purty like he's just filling

913
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 1: the gap and next year it's gonna be tree Lancer's

914
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 1: job too. Hey, man, like there there there has to

915
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 1: be some conversation here to Like there was a week

916
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 1: and they were like, man, I don't know, this might

917
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 1: just be brock pretty job. But now that I've now

918
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 1: but I've had my cooling off period, I'm like, Okay,

919
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 1: let's just have a legitimate competition. Let's see what trade

920
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 1: Lands can be. After all, you gave up a lot

921
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:31,839
Speaker 1: of assets to to draft him in the first place.

922
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 1: I don't think you just move on from him without

923
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 1: at least giving him a fair shot. So that's that's

924
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 1: what I want. I want there to be a legitimate

925
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:41,800
Speaker 1: competition next year between trade Lance and Brock Purty and

926
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 1: may the best man win. And when they're both on

927
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 1: rookie deals, you could have that competition and not where

928
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 1: it all. You can absolutely do that whole sort of thing.

929
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 1: So we will see. We are not done. We're gonna

930
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 1: take a look ahead to Championships Sunday and that time

931
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 1: we're gonna wrap things up. Coming up, you're on the

932
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 1: NFL Fantasy Football Podcast two games on Sunday, we got

933
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 1: the NFC Championship game, kicking things off three pm easternn

934
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 1: on Sunday. You can see that game on Fox. It's

935
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 1: the forty Diners at the Eagles. Both teams red hot

936
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:23,320
Speaker 1: and Niners. Uh on a ridiculous heater right now, on

937
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 1: a crazy winning streak. Uh taking you on a Philadelphia

938
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 1: team that just be the snot out of the Giants

939
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 1: last week. Going into last week's game against the Cowboys,

940
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 1: everybody said for the Niners to win, Brock pretty just

941
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 1: has to avoid the big mistake. Almost made it through

942
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 1: a couple of passes that probably should have been picked off.

943
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 1: Trayvon Diggs had one in his hands and couldn't squeeze it. Uh,

944
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 1: pretty got away with him. I tweeted, he's got a

945
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:50,799
Speaker 1: horse shoe wedges up his butt. Really is is sort

946
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 1: of what it is for Niners fans will take it

947
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 1: this week though, against this Eagles defense. Does Pretty have

948
00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 1: to be an actual playmaker? Not just be uh, you know,

949
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 1: I hate the game manager thing, but not just be

950
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 1: a game manager. Does he have to go out and

951
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 1: make some plays for the Niners to beat Philadelphia? Um,

952
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 1: I think there's a scenario where that happens if they

953
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 1: if they fall behind against Philly. But I think early

954
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 1: on in the game, no, I I think you would

955
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 1: tell on the opposite you tell him stay on your feet,

956
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 1: don't don't take the sacks, get rid of the ball quickly,

957
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:24,359
Speaker 1: uh and get the ball into your hands and your

958
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:28,359
Speaker 1: playmakers specifically, I think CMC and George Kittle are gonna

959
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 1: really have to have a big game this week. I

960
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 1: think Debo is gonna have to do a lot of

961
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 1: this stuff where he takes a you know, like a

962
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 1: one year one pass with like one air yard and

963
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:39,320
Speaker 1: makes it like a twenty yard completion. I think that

964
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 1: will have to happen because the Eagles are great at

965
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 1: stopping receivers out wide, which Debo and I you kind

966
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 1: of fall into that a lot. And they're awesome at

967
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 1: stopping downfield passes. So I could see a scenario where

968
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,760
Speaker 1: the Niners fall behind, and then I think Brock Party

969
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 1: has to be a playmaker. But if they could just

970
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 1: keep this game close, then I think you just keep

971
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 1: asking Party to be he is, and that's just get

972
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,839
Speaker 1: rid of the ball quickly, place it well and let

973
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,879
Speaker 1: your playmakers like that. That's to the offense is really

974
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 1: built around. Let those guys be who they are, I think,

975
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 1: and you and I talked about this before we started

976
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 1: recording this show that I think this game stays close.

977
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 1: It can go either way, but I don't think. I

978
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 1: don't think the Eagles blow out the Niners. I definitely

979
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:23,320
Speaker 1: don't think the Niners blow out the Eagles here. So

980
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 1: as long as it stays within a score, I think

981
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 1: you're right. I think they can just sort of let

982
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,839
Speaker 1: the playmakers around pretty do what they do, whether it's

983
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,320
Speaker 1: McCaffrey or Kittle or deebo or Ik or whomever it

984
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:35,840
Speaker 1: will be. Uh, let those guys do what they do.

985
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 1: If it ends up being, you know, they're down by

986
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 1: a couple of scores, then it is going to have

987
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 1: to be Brock Purtty is going to have to make

988
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 1: some plays. I will say that just as a fan.

989
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 1: In watching him, the thing that drives me nuts is

990
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 1: watching him continually roll to his left when pressure comes.

991
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 1: He rolls to his left consistently, and then he has

992
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:53,479
Speaker 1: to stop and reset himself to be able to fill

993
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 1: the ball. It drives me insane, uh watching it, and

994
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:01,319
Speaker 1: I feel like, look, I've I'm noticing this. I'm sure

995
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 1: every defensive coordinator out there is noticing this. And it's

996
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 1: probably going to scheme accordingly, they haven't been able to

997
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 1: stop it so far. They haven't stopped it so far. UM.

998
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 1: I also worried because the Niners, at least early on

999
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 1: in that game, had a really tough time with the

1000
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 1: Dallas pass rush. And if they're gonna have a tough

1001
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:19,439
Speaker 1: time with the Dallas pass rush, I don't think they're

1002
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 1: gonna have a lot of fun trying to stop that

1003
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 1: Philly pass rush either. UM. Anybody in particular though that

1004
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 1: you are keeping your eye on in this game, I

1005
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 1: think DeVonta Smith is going to have to have a

1006
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 1: big game this week. Look, A J. Brown is the one,

1007
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:36,879
Speaker 1: we know that, but I think DeVonta Smith has shown

1008
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 1: people like, hey, I'm very very good and my own right,

1009
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 1: and what he is very very good at is winning

1010
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 1: down field. I know A J. Brown does a lot

1011
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 1: of that as well for the Niners, But I think

1012
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 1: the Niners are gonna throw everything towards A. J. Brown

1013
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:53,839
Speaker 1: like he's gonna clearly be the focal point of trying

1014
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 1: to stop in the passing game. DeVonta Smith is gonna

1015
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 1: have to step up. The Niners arguably one of the

1016
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 1: best run defenses of all time. Uh, where they've struggled

1017
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:06,359
Speaker 1: is against receivers, specifically downfield. They're in the top five

1018
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 1: in yards allowed on passes of twenty plus eight yards

1019
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 1: this season. Uh So for Philly, I think that means

1020
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 1: DeVonta Smith is gonna have to make a player too

1021
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 1: in this game for them to to pull it out.

1022
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 1: And I would say, I mean, depending on how the

1023
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:21,399
Speaker 1: Niners decide to line up, Uh, there's a very good

1024
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 1: chance he could line up against Theamado or Lenore, who

1025
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 1: has been the the other cornerback there. Not that he's

1026
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 1: been bad, but various Ward has been great on the

1027
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 1: other side. So Leonore is the guy that they pick on. Uh.

1028
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 1: If the Niners decide they want to line Award on

1029
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:39,320
Speaker 1: a J. Brown, then I I don't want to be

1030
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 1: surprised if you see a Ward on Smith. But imagine,

1031
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 1: I mean, you know this team better than me. But

1032
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:45,359
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, like they there's a good

1033
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 1: chance they probably don't travel anybody. I don't I don't

1034
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 1: know if they travel. They just whoever is on that

1035
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 1: side is probably who you're just gonna line up against.

1036
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 1: Um So, whoever is lining up against Leonora is probably

1037
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 1: the guy who gets to those parts makes sense. Yeah,

1038
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:58,439
Speaker 1: And again I don't think Lenoor is bad. I don't

1039
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:00,040
Speaker 1: think he's been terrible. It's just that the guy on

1040
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 1: the other side has been really, really good, and so

1041
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 1: that makes you think once upon a time. Side note,

1042
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:08,800
Speaker 1: I used to write, uh, an IDP column here a

1043
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:10,799
Speaker 1: long time ago, and I will admit that I am

1044
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 1: not an I d P. Maybe there are there are

1045
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 1: people out there who are really really good at it.

1046
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,399
Speaker 1: But one of the things I learned early on doing

1047
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 1: that column and researching that sort of thing is those

1048
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:21,800
Speaker 1: guys who were shut down corners are awful I d

1049
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 1: P players. Richard Sherman at his high Durrell Rivas terrible

1050
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 1: I DP players because no one threw to them. They

1051
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 1: didn't get they didn't get tackles, uh, they didn't get

1052
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 1: past defenses, they didn't get picks because nobody you always

1053
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 1: wanted to pick the guy on the other side. That

1054
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 1: was the guy you wanted. I played in one IDP

1055
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 1: league and a few years ago they leave the year

1056
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 1: where like it was such a big story that like

1057
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 1: mainstream shows were like, hey, everyone is just throwing at

1058
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 1: Malcolm Butler and there's not do to stop it. He

1059
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 1: was the tops going quarterback. Ind that was when I

1060
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 1: was like, I don't know if IDP is the league

1061
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:57,800
Speaker 1: to me, you know. So that's that's the thing I

1062
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 1: learned doing I d P colums. But they're are Like

1063
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 1: I said, there are some people out there. You want

1064
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 1: somebody who's good at IDP, uh, go out and search

1065
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 1: Gary Davenport. That that is that's your guy if you

1066
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:11,800
Speaker 1: want IDP information. Um, I'm looking at Debo Samuel in

1067
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 1: this game. For one of the reasons you talked about,

1068
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 1: the Eagles don't give up a lot of throws down field.

1069
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 1: On top of it, pushing the ball downfield has been

1070
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 1: maybe one of Purtis weak points so far this season.

1071
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:24,360
Speaker 1: I think Samuel is that guy though, who works in

1072
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 1: kind of those underneath areas. If you can get him

1073
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:28,799
Speaker 1: on some crossing routes, just get him in space where

1074
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:30,360
Speaker 1: he can get the ball in his hands. We know

1075
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:33,360
Speaker 1: how hard he is to tackle when he has the

1076
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 1: football in his hands. So I think he's the guy

1077
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 1: who's gonna have to be a big playmaker for this offense.

1078
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 1: I think, you know, the Philly is gonna do their

1079
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 1: best to try and slow him down, but it's just

1080
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 1: how Shanahan's good at putting him in different spots and

1081
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:47,800
Speaker 1: hiding him and getting him open, whether it's in the backfield,

1082
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 1: it's in the slot, it's out wide. They're very good

1083
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 1: at that sort of thing, and he's gonna have to

1084
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 1: be a key I think for the Niner offense. Bengals

1085
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 1: are Chiefs. That's the night Gap six thirty Eastern on CBS.

1086
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 1: Simple question. Can the Chiefs win if Patrick Mahomes is

1087
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 1: not healthy? Yes, but it's gonna be very, very hard.

1088
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 1: Like I I think the Bengals should be the viewed

1089
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 1: as a team. That is, if this game wasn't in

1090
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 1: Kansas City, especially, it would be all over the Bengals.

1091
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 1: But it's gonna be really hard because watching him play

1092
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 1: last week, he was there was he was struggling to

1093
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 1: hand the ball off to the running back, let alone

1094
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 1: take three steps examine the field. So they did a

1095
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:35,400
Speaker 1: great job of designing everything quick like. They were tremendous

1096
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:38,800
Speaker 1: at disguising Travis Kelsey, making it look like he's blocking

1097
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 1: on the play and then he at the very end

1098
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 1: he comes out. Well, the Bengals, they're gonna be prepared

1099
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:47,879
Speaker 1: for that. Lou on a Room, I'm gonna. Yes, why

1100
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 1: is this guy not getting head coaching handiates? All he

1101
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 1: has done is shut down Mahomes every time they play,

1102
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 1: and Josh Allen said his worst game in the last

1103
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:58,879
Speaker 1: three years against him, Like, what is what is going

1104
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 1: on here? This is a guy that should and I've

1105
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 1: been very vocal about that on Twitter. I think he

1106
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 1: should be getting head coaching jobs. And if Mahomes can't

1107
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 1: move against that defense, good luck. Somebody pointed out that

1108
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 1: it looked harder for Mahomes to go back on handoffs

1109
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:17,439
Speaker 1: there on actual dropbacks on on Saturday, Sunday, Saturday whenever

1110
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:21,879
Speaker 1: they play. Um, it's just it. You're right, they can

1111
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 1: win because of Patrick Mahomes is still better than a

1112
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 1: of a lot of quarterbacks. Maybe not Joe Burrow, but

1113
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 1: a lot of quarterbacks out there. And so that and

1114
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 1: I think it's going to be up to Andy Reid

1115
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 1: and Eric being Amy to scheme up some things to

1116
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 1: get guys open. I was texting a friend of mine,

1117
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:40,840
Speaker 1: like we used always laugh years ago, like how is

1118
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:42,839
Speaker 1: Antonio Gates always open? Like how is it that he's

1119
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:45,760
Speaker 1: always open? Right? I was like, I texted, like, Travis

1120
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 1: Kelsey is the new Antonio Gates. How is he always

1121
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 1: open when you know that's where they're going with the

1122
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:52,840
Speaker 1: football most of the time, And you go back and

1123
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 1: you watch and they do a lot of things to

1124
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:57,840
Speaker 1: sort of disguise what Kelsey's doing. You're right, they have

1125
00:53:57,920 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 1: him chip, they have him blocked, they sort of move

1126
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:01,840
Speaker 1: him or round the formation, and that's they're gonna have

1127
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 1: to do a lot of that. Uh, coming up this weekend,

1128
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 1: if they're going to be Cincinnati specifically, anybody that you're

1129
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:11,800
Speaker 1: paying attention to this week, Joe Burrow Man, Uh, I

1130
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:13,840
Speaker 1: wish I could say Eli Apple for this, because I

1131
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 1: wanted nothing more than Eli Apple to get torched in

1132
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 1: the entire league. Come out and roast them again, just

1133
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 1: like last year when you gave up the winning catching

1134
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:24,799
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Um. But Joe Burrow, I think Joe

1135
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:28,279
Speaker 1: Burrow he I've seen a lot of people say this.

1136
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 1: I know I'm not the first. He's the closest thing

1137
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 1: to Tom Bradyson's that we're ever gonna see again, I think,

1138
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 1: at least in this generation. Like the way that he plays,

1139
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 1: is the way that he he is so calm, cool

1140
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 1: and collected at all moments of any game, like they truly.

1141
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 1: The Bengals have this saying like we don't have to

1142
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 1: play them, they have to play us. And man, they

1143
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 1: have adapted that more than any team I've ever seen.

1144
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 1: Like they're so confident. They all the analytics say you

1145
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 1: should pump the you should defer if you win. The

1146
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 1: cointels say like, no, we want it. We know we're

1147
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 1: gonna score and we're gonna go up seven zip and

1148
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 1: you right away. And they do it every time. It

1149
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:05,800
Speaker 1: is ridiculous how well he's playing in last week without

1150
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 1: three starting alignment and then they're one of their too

1151
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 1: healthy alignment coming in. Got banged up it early in

1152
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:12,839
Speaker 1: that game, and it didn't make a difference at all

1153
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 1: because Joe Burrow was surgical. He was getting rid of

1154
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 1: the ball within two and a half seconds, putting it

1155
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 1: exactly where it needs to be, where only his past

1156
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:23,840
Speaker 1: catchers can get it. If he plays like that, I

1157
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 1: don't see how the Bengals lose. It was interesting to

1158
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:30,240
Speaker 1: watch them. I mean, you mentioned them being so surgical,

1159
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 1: and I think this week, Uh, the thing about the

1160
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 1: Chiefs defense, it can be had. You can score on them.

1161
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 1: What has made them effective throughout the season and that

1162
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:41,360
Speaker 1: generally they score a lot of points, they sort of

1163
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 1: dictate to the other offense, like the other offense is like, Okay,

1164
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:45,359
Speaker 1: well we gotta throw the bone now, And so when

1165
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 1: you're sort of one dimensional, it gets a little bit

1166
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 1: easier to defend. That's not going to be the case

1167
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 1: this week. I don't. I don't envision a scenario, even

1168
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 1: with a healthy Mahomes that the Chiefs were just gonna

1169
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 1: go out and run out and hide from the Bengals

1170
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:58,800
Speaker 1: and forced them to be one dimensional. So that is

1171
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 1: gonna put a lot of stress in that defense, and

1172
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 1: I think that's gonna be good for Joe Burrow, but

1173
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:06,799
Speaker 1: for Kansas City, I think Jerick McKinnon is a big

1174
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:09,279
Speaker 1: key sort of for the same reason we talked about

1175
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 1: with Travis Kelsey, how they can figure out ways to

1176
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 1: get him open. I think McKinnon is that guy too.

1177
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 1: We saw him run the ball down the stretch. We

1178
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 1: know he can catch the football when they need him to,

1179
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 1: and he's gonna be that guy that sort of runs

1180
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 1: underneath in some of those spaces, especially if you have

1181
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 1: Mahomes not being mobile and he has to get the

1182
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 1: ball out quickly. I think McKinnon is going to be

1183
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 1: a big part of that. And you know we talked

1184
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 1: about Isaiah Pacheco and how he contributes really nothing to

1185
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 1: the passing game. I think they're gonna need to throw

1186
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 1: the football and I think Jerick McKinnon is going to

1187
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:42,320
Speaker 1: have to have a good game for the Chiefs to

1188
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:44,279
Speaker 1: go out and win this one. But this should be fun.

1189
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:46,839
Speaker 1: Do you think we could see uh, Darius Tony if

1190
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 1: we're talking short, If there's ever a game, I think

1191
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:51,799
Speaker 1: this is the game you un leash, if you ever

1192
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:54,839
Speaker 1: take the leash to take take the chains off Darius Tony.

1193
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 1: I think this is the one that you let him

1194
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:58,360
Speaker 1: go and get out and make plays. I know a

1195
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:00,800
Speaker 1: lot of people too are gonna be like Mahomes is

1196
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 1: going to have time to get the deep ball and

1197
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 1: that's their offense. And with Tyreek Hill that was, but

1198
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:10,279
Speaker 1: this year really not. He's literally threw more touchdowns of

1199
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:13,239
Speaker 1: ten or fewer air yards than anyone ever in the

1200
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 1: next gen stats era. So like this offense. Now, if

1201
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 1: there's ever a year for the Chiefs to deal with,

1202
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 1: they banged up Mahomes, who has to get rid of

1203
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 1: the ball quickly, it's this one. This is this is

1204
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 1: I was saying one of the better coaching jobs for

1205
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 1: Andy Reid because we wondered what they would do with

1206
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 1: no Tyreek Hill and if it was just Travis Kelsey,

1207
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 1: and Kelsey has obviously done Travis Kelsey things, but they

1208
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 1: have been just as efficient, maybe even more so with

1209
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 1: Juju in mvs and occasionally Darius Tony or Skymore or

1210
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:45,439
Speaker 1: justin like just like name. It's it's a grab bag

1211
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 1: of pass catchers and they have figured out a way

1212
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 1: to be just as good. They are football Outsiders number

1213
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 1: one offense in terms of d v o A. And

1214
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 1: that's after losing Tyreek Hill. Crazy. That's amazing, absolutely amazing.

1215
00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 1: All right, so here we go. Let's just let's just

1216
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 1: call it right now. Who is going to be playing

1217
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 1: in Glendale, Arizona in a couple of weeks in Super

1218
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 1: Bowl fifty seven. I think it will be the Birds

1219
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 1: versus the Cats. I think the Eagles pull off a

1220
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 1: close one against the Niners. Um. I think that game

1221
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 1: will that'll be a good one throughout. I think I

1222
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 1: think the Bengals and Chiefs are closed for much of it,

1223
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 1: but I think the Bengals pull away late. I think

1224
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:24,440
Speaker 1: their defense, uh makes the adjustments that they have to

1225
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 1: make their defense. I don't think it's enough credit for

1226
00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 1: how well they have played and how well they are

1227
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 1: schemed and everything. And then I think Joe Barrow, Jamar

1228
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 1: Chase and Tee Higgins, will they just do what they do.

1229
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 1: I think the Bengals win. I think I don't know

1230
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 1: if by a couple of scores, but by a touchdown.

1231
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 1: I think the Bengals can win that one. Um. I

1232
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 1: just think you talk about their defense right that that

1233
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 1: fumble return by Sam Hubbard might be the reason they're

1234
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 1: still playing right now. I think it is. If if

1235
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 1: the Ravens score touchdown, Uh, you know, there's a there's

1236
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 1: a good chance of Baltimore hangs on and wins that game.

1237
00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 1: So we're talking Bill's chiefs right now, and I'm much

1238
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 1: more happy we're talking about a game in Atlanta coming

1239
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 1: up this weekend. But it could be a chance that

1240
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:05,920
Speaker 1: that the defense does make some plays. I think the

1241
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 1: Bengals win in the end. Up seeing my heart says

1242
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 1: the forty Niners, my head says the Eagles. I'm gonna

1243
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 1: go with my heart, go with my heart and say

1244
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 1: the forty Niners win this one. But my my brain says,

1245
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:18,919
Speaker 1: the Eagles are gonna win, but I'm gonna I'm gonna,

1246
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:20,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with my gut and i'm gonna say

1247
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 1: the forty Niners pull this one out, so we're gonna get.

1248
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 1: So that means we have Niners Bengals Part three. Uh.

1249
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 1: They've played twice in the Super Bowl before San Francisco

1250
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 1: won both of them. Both of them were pretty entertaining games.

1251
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 1: The first I'll say this, that first one was the

1252
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 1: first Super Bowl that I have any vague memory of.

1253
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:42,560
Speaker 1: I don't remember it in in detail, but I do

1254
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 1: remember the Niners came up with a big gold line stand,

1255
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 1: big stop on fourth down at the goal line, and

1256
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:50,480
Speaker 1: that helped them pull out the win. And then the

1257
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 1: second time they played was the infamous Joe Montana game

1258
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 1: winning drive that began with him putting out John Candy

1259
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 1: in the stands. You know the story. No, I don't

1260
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:04,440
Speaker 1: know what the year it was, what super Bowl it was,

1261
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:07,680
Speaker 1: but the Niners trailing with the ball a couple of

1262
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 1: minutes left, needing a touchdown to win, Everybody in the

1263
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 1: hotel was super nervous. Uh, And Joe Montana walks in calm, cool,

1264
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 1: cool with horse says, hey, I'm isn't that John Candy

1265
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:20,480
Speaker 1: up there? And everybody looks like, ohly crap, it is

1266
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 1: John Canny, And everybody had a laugh and they calm down.

1267
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:25,760
Speaker 1: And then a few minutes later, John Tayler catches a

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Speaker 1: game when he touchdown pass super Bowl twenty three. I'm

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Speaker 1: being told by hy thank you. You know, if any

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Speaker 1: quarterback was to come into the huddle and be like,

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Speaker 1: hey is that name in random celebrity, I feel like

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Speaker 1: it will be our new our new Joe cool, It's

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow would absolutely do that, Like could

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Speaker 1: you be like like he's like walking there and be like, hey,

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Speaker 1: isn't that Drake? You know something something like that. Let's

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Speaker 1: go win. So there it is. Those are our predictions

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Speaker 1: for the Super Bowl. We will be back next week.

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Speaker 1: There will be no super Bowl preview next week because

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Speaker 1: still the whole of the week between then and now,

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Speaker 1: So well, we'll come back till next week and we'll

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Speaker 1: talk about what happened in the championship games, and we'll

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Speaker 1: find some other nonsense to talk to you about for

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Speaker 1: a little bit as well. I meantime, now I'll do

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Speaker 1: it for this edition of the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast.

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Speaker 1: They happy, safe and healthy, do good and live well.

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Speaker 1: Enjoy Championship Sunday, everybody, and we'll talk to you next week.

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't