1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants Httle on Giants 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: dot Com, the Giants Moble, the Giants Podcast Network. Welcome 3 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:12,559 Speaker 1: to the Giants Huttle Podcast. The Giants are getting ready 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: to take on the Washington football team and our final 5 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: Giant Huttle game preview, and of course it's more than 6 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 1: just that. We talked to players, coaches, and then of 7 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 1: course we go inside the matchup as well. Focus here 8 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 1: will be more on the player and coach interview obviously, 9 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: so let's get to it. You can find the Giant 10 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: Shuttle Podcast on your favorite podcast platforms, on the Giants 11 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: mollblack Enel and of course at Giants dot Com Slash Podcast. Today, 12 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk to this week's Giants starting quarterback Jake From. 13 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: Bob Papa will talk to Joe Judge and Lance Meddal, 14 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 1: and Paul Ttino will talk to John Kim, who covers 15 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:47,200 Speaker 1: the Washington football team for ESPN. Let's start with our 16 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: player interview. Giants quarterback Jake From will get his second 17 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: start this week. I had a chance to talk to him, 18 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: Jake johns Bell here man, how are you Heyohn? How 19 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: you doing I'm doing great? Man. We were talking right 20 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: after practice on Friday. You know, coach Judge loves these 21 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,559 Speaker 1: practices and the elements. It was snow over the place. 22 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 1: I know, they plowed the fields. What was it like 23 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: practicing out there in the snow? Yeah, I mean it 24 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: was awesome. You know, you feel like a little kid again. Um, 25 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 1: you know, just out there and just having fun. You know, 26 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: I mean, elements aren't always great, but I mean it's 27 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: enjoyable and uh it just kind of takes it back 28 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 1: to your roots and makes you, you know, realize, you 29 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: know why you love the game of football so much. Now, 30 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 1: you went to school in Georgia, you played college in Georgia. 31 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 1: How much elements exposure do you have in the in 32 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: the snow? Not much? Uh, this this is not uh 33 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: probably not as winny there. But um man, I you 34 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 1: know I think, uh, you know, after spending a year 35 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 1: in Buffalo, um the elements there, I think I've done 36 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 1: a really good job of learning how to um, you know, 37 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 1: deal with it and you know, throw the ball and 38 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: you know then they just gotta rip it and you know, 39 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: pray for the best. Absolutely all right, So as you 40 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: prepared this week, this is your second week where where 41 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: you're preparing where you you know, where you think you 42 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: are going to be the starting quarterback. How was the 43 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: week of preparation gone. Yeah, it's been good, uh man. 44 00:01:57,880 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: A lot of work, a lot of late hours, but 45 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to study, wrap everything up and um, 46 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: you know, hey, I got I got my call set, 47 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: I got my hundred sixty plays and um, I'm gonna 48 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: know how to you know, go and execute those and 49 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: everybody else's job and we're gonna try to execute and 50 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: move the ball and score a few points. What did 51 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: you learn from your first week of preparation? Not the 52 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 1: game necessarily, but getting ready for the game that maybe 53 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: had you make certain adjustments this week in terms of 54 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: how you're preparing to start. Yeah, um, just you know, 55 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: little things here and there, certain things and and walk 56 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 1: throughs and getting live reps, you know, figuring out what 57 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: you need what you need live and um, you know, 58 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: trying to take care of some of the guys. You know, 59 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 1: it is week eight teen, you know, spent a long 60 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: season for a lot of guys, and um and speaking 61 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: up you know when you know something's not you know, 62 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: fully making sense to you. So I want to speak 63 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: up whatnot too, and uh make sure everybody's doing their job. 64 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:45,679 Speaker 1: So Jay, you'll be at about give or take a 65 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: day or two the forty day mark here with the Giants. 66 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: When when you start, uh the game on Sunday against Washington, 67 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: you mentioned the play sheet and the plays you have 68 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: in your repertoire. Do you have the full playbook now? Like, 69 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: are you fully in or is there still stuff that 70 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: that you've been learning along the way. Yeah, I mean, uh, 71 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: you know, I have access to the full paybook, you know, 72 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: But for me, it's just been, you know, learning on 73 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: a week to week basis, and um, you know when uh, 74 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: you know, I'm sitting there Monday and Tuesday, you know, 75 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: I'll kind of peek around. But um, you know, you know, 76 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 1: for me, it's just a you know, learn the game plan. Um, 77 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: you know, I don't necessarily know exactly, you know, what 78 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: everything was like, you know, weeks one through you know, 79 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: fourteen or whatever it was. But hey, you know, I'm here, 80 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna know what I have to do 81 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 1: and go and execute. What was the biggest challenge in 82 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 1: getting in here, And I'll call it cramming maybe you 83 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: don't want to call it that, but trying to learn 84 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: everything as quickly as possible. So when you did get 85 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: your opportunity the day after Christmas gainst Philadelphia, you were ready. Yeah. 86 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: It's uh, it's kind of you know, all those tests 87 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: in college that you cram four and you you stayed 88 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: up til two o'clock in the middle of the night, 89 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: you know, study and you know that's kind of paid 90 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: off a little bit. So um, you know, I never 91 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: thought I'd say that, but it it definitely helped me. 92 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: And um, just trying to learn, and um, I think 93 00:03:58,000 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: the biggest thing is learning how how to learn, and 94 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: you know, knowing how you learn, you know specifically, so 95 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: once you kind of figure that out, you can you know, 96 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: get yourself going and learn a lot faster. How much 97 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: different was the terminology based on what you did in 98 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: Buffalo and what you did at Georgia compared to what 99 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: you're doing here. Yeah, a little bit different, you know, 100 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 1: but everything it's a lot of similar concepts. You know, 101 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 1: you just have to learn a different language for it, 102 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 1: you know, and um that kind of what it is. 103 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: You know, as soon as you start talking to language, 104 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: it gets a lot easier, and um, you just kind 105 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: of roll with it from there. Did you ever catch 106 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 1: yourself calling a concept by something you used to call 107 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: it at instead of what they're calling it here. Yeah, 108 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: I mean that's just gonna happen. Um, as soon as 109 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 1: as soon as you know, I think the biggest thing 110 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: is just talking in terms. Um, as soon as you 111 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: start learning to talk in terms, everything just kind of 112 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: takes care of itself. No. Absolutely, you know you talked 113 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,359 Speaker 1: about the concept being similar. You know, I just wonder 114 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 1: from your perspective as someone now that obviously was at 115 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: a pro style program in Georgia, wasn't Buffalo where they 116 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 1: have a very successful offense. Now you're here, how different 117 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: are really the concepts from team to team or or 118 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: really guys kind of basically running the same type of stuff, 119 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 1: it's just called something different. Yeah, you know, at the 120 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: to day, football's football. Um. I think it really comes 121 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 1: down to a lot more of the fundamentals of you know, 122 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 1: running and catch and throw and take care of the football, um, 123 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 1: executing and situational football. So um. You know, at the 124 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 1: end of the day, you're big playmakers are gonna make 125 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:15,119 Speaker 1: plays and um, I'm just gonna move down the field, 126 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: no question about it. And in that forty days you 127 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: also not only have to learn the playbook, you do 128 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 1: have to build some chemistry with those playmakers. So what 129 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: has that process been like, Because obviously you're not getting 130 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 1: all the snaps with the guys that you're gonna be 131 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 1: with on the field over the course of that forty days. 132 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: So what has it been like trying to gain some 133 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 1: chemistry with the guys that you're going to have to 134 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 1: throw the ball to on Sunday. Yeah, I think it's 135 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,679 Speaker 1: been good. It's been fun. Uh, you know, you you definitely, 136 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 1: you know, make certain reps, you know, kind of a 137 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: lot more because it may be the only one you get, 138 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: you know, that week. But I think it's been it's 139 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: been awesome. Of all, the guys have been great. They've 140 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: embraced me with open arms, and I can't thank them 141 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: um enough. You know, we talked about what you learned 142 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: during the week. How about that half of football you 143 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 1: played UM against Philadelphia on decembery What are some of 144 00:05:57,760 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: the specific things when you look back at the tape 145 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: afterwards you went and you said, all right, now that 146 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: I've experienced that, I've seen that, you know, now maybe 147 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: I know I need to approach a couple of things 148 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: a little bit differently, Yeah, just in importance of you know, 149 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 1: coming out of the game and starting fast. You know, 150 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: I think it's it's so important to come out and 151 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: getting a rhythm, um and find the flow of the game. 152 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: And you know, it's kind of tough, just never really 153 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 1: kind of felt like, you know, we've gotten rhythm on offense, 154 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: and um, I'm gonna do my best to make sure 155 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: we do this week. Do you and I probably this 156 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: is a tough question to answer, but do you feel 157 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: a tangible difference. I know you played that you know, 158 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 1: driving the fourth quarter of the week prior, and then 159 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 1: you've got to start the game. But do you feel 160 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: a tangible difference, a larger comfort level, a larger amount 161 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: of confidence because you've gotten those snaps heading into this 162 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: week as compared to what you were feeling heading into 163 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: that week against Philadelphia. I mean I feel confident, you know, 164 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: and and you know every time I walk out on 165 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: the field, so you know, if you're not you know, 166 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: if you're not confident when you walk in the head, 167 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:52,919 Speaker 1: all everybody else is gonna feel it and it's not 168 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: gonna go good. So, um, you know, I feel confident 169 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: what I can do with the guys around me can 170 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 1: do and um, and I'm excited to go play and 171 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a fun opportun earning and um it's 172 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: gonna make a great day in New York. What are 173 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: some of the specific things that Mike and Daniel have 174 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 1: helped you with trying to get your way to play 175 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 1: in these games at the end of the year. Yeah, 176 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: just learning you know, certain intricacies of the offense and 177 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,679 Speaker 1: timing and um, you know, different code words and different 178 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: chicks you know you can make here in there. And UM, 179 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: I can't think those guys enough for you know, kind 180 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: of helping me, you know, throughout this process, and um, 181 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: it hadn't been easy on everybody, but you know, on anybody, 182 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: and UM, I can't thank them enough. All right, let's 183 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: talk about the opponent come up here in Washington. What 184 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: are the things that you see on tape that makes 185 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 1: that Washington defense dangerous? Yeah, um, you know, really good 186 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: up front. Um, you know it's um, it's kind of 187 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: you know, the way they kind of build their defense 188 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: and um, you know they're they're really good up front. 189 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: So um, you know, we gotta you know, play good 190 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: up front and um, you know, do a good job 191 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: run the football. You know, they're a team that has 192 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: has given up a lot of yards passing this year. 193 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: I think they they primarily run a lot of zone 194 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: instead of man. When you're a team that when you're 195 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: recorded bout that going up and you're gonna see a 196 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: lot of zone looks. What are some of the important 197 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: things that you have to execute well to have success 198 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: against some of the looks that Washington is gonna throw 199 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: at you. Um, you know, you gotta have good timing, UM, 200 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: and make sure you guys are in certain spots at 201 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: certain times. And UM, I think ball play ball placement 202 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: is really huge, and UM getting them a certain ball 203 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: where they can catch it, knife upfield and get some 204 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: extra yards. So, UM, get them good balls and let 205 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: them take care of the rest. Final question, Jake, just 206 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: about you personally. As you've gotten into the league now 207 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: and you've been working on this for a couple of years, 208 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: trying to become a better quarterback. What are the things 209 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: that you've been working on privately, you know, in the 210 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: off season on your own where you're really trying to 211 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: improve as a quarterback so you could be in the 212 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: league for another you know, ten years. Yeah, I think 213 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:34,199 Speaker 1: knowledge of the game is huge. Um, you know when 214 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: you reach out to others and U'm just trying to 215 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 1: learn and pick up anything. You know, when you're trained 216 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 1: with certain you know, certain guys and and certain other things. 217 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: And uh for me, my feet, I'm always trying to 218 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 1: you know, strain my arm and push my arm, uh, 219 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: you know, to make it stronger. Jake, great stuff. We 220 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: really appreciate it. Best to luck on Sunday and your 221 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: second ever NFL stall. We look forward to see out 222 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: there on the field. Yeah, thank you so much. Thank 223 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: you for having me. That's Jake from We thank you 224 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: for joining us a Giant fans a few year. Season 225 00:08:56,559 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: tickets for the two season today for only one hundred bucks. 226 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:03,239 Speaker 1: Limited seats are available. Speak with the Giants ticket representative 227 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 1: now and become a season ticket member by calling eight 228 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:11,439 Speaker 1: eight eight n y G nineteen. Alright. Our next guest 229 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 1: is John Time. He covers the Washington football team for ESPN. 230 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: Lance Medo and Paulino spoke to him the Giants and 231 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: the Washington football team meat for the second time this 232 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,319 Speaker 1: season Sunday, as they both wrap up their two thousand 233 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 1: and twenty one campaigns at MetLife Stadium. Washington won the 234 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: first matchup in week two thirty to twenty nine, and 235 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: to get more into Washington were now joined by ESPN 236 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 1: NFL Nation reporter who covers the team, John Come, Johnny Gotta, 237 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 1: Lance Meadow, and Paulatino here greatly appreciate the time today. 238 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: Hope poll as well. Has everything on your end, Everything's okay, Well, 239 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:46,079 Speaker 1: it's a pleasure avenue on the program. John and I 240 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: want to start big picture perspective in terms of the 241 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: outlook for Washington entering this game, because very similar to 242 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:55,319 Speaker 1: the Giants, that team has been hammered by injuries. I'm 243 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 1: sure they have a lot of young guys they want 244 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: to continue to develop. How is Ron Rivera going to 245 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: approach these games specifically in terms of playing time and 246 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 1: how you think he'll divvy up the reps. That's a 247 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: good questionnaire. It's funny because people keep asking more, You're 248 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,439 Speaker 1: gonna play more young guys like he's been playing him 249 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: like just like the guys when you're they had against 250 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: the Eagles last week, there were twelve starters who were 251 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 1: missing from that game, Twelve guys who would who were 252 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: expected to be Day one starters this year we're not playing. 253 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: So when you're in that situation, you're already playing a 254 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: lot of guys, and like they're playing guys that may 255 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: not have even made it to their training camp last year, 256 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: you know. I mean, so like there's not a lot 257 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 1: of wiggle room to play a lot of young guys. 258 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: But he even said the other day that if there 259 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 1: are some areas where they play somebody different, somebody younger, 260 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,199 Speaker 1: the goal was still to win the game. And you 261 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:56,319 Speaker 1: know that was brought up because like, well, is about 262 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 1: draft position. You know, he's he has a GM two, 263 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 1: So it was about draft position and winnings, Like, well, 264 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: even if we play a young guy in a spot, 265 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: we want to win with that guy. But where you 266 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: might see a change is that quarterback. Now, Taylor Heineck 267 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: will start, but there's a chance that Kyle Allen will 268 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 1: get some time too, And I think some of that 269 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: may depend on how the game is going. If they 270 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: truly want to win and you're up by two touchdowns 271 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: at halftime and you change, you know, you can make 272 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: a case. On the other hand, I don't know that 273 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: there's a lot different between those two quarterbacks. You know, 274 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 1: they're both at a certain level um, so you know 275 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 1: you'll you'll see Jared Patterson at running back, but that's 276 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: because Antonio Gibson is banged up. You know, they could 277 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: be or he's been limited this week, so it could 278 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 1: be that they don't want to play Antonio and give 279 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: Jared Patterson more reps. But you know, so there's not 280 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 1: a lot of wild room as far as going to 281 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 1: extra guys that you really haven't seen a lot of 282 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 1: this year. You know, John, I've got to go back 283 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 1: to Heineke for a second, because we all remember that 284 00:11:55,760 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 1: week to game, Washington comes up with the thirty We 285 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 1: know about the off side penalty called against the Giants 286 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 1: on the last second field goal, Washington gets the wee 287 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 1: kick and they win. But for me, it was Taylor 288 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 1: Heineke doing his best Sonny Jurgenson impression that kind of, 289 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: you know, resonates the fact that he threw for over 290 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 1: three d and thirty yards, was deadly accurate and had 291 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 1: a couple of touchdown passes, and since then, seems like 292 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: he's been very pedestrian from watching this guy. What was 293 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: it that was working that night for him that he 294 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 1: hasn't been able to replicate, You know, it's funny because 295 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 1: that's what Washington fans asked about Daniel Jones, because every 296 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: time he played Washington, he start and then you go 297 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: and it's like, it's not the same thing you just saw. 298 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: I think in Heineke's case, and they're obviously very different quarterbacks, 299 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: but in Heineke's case, he's limited as far as he's 300 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,599 Speaker 1: a smaller guy um and if you keep him in 301 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: the pocket, it's gonna be harder for him to hurt you. 302 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: He doesn't have a big arm, so if you can 303 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:00,079 Speaker 1: carve them and and he you know, sometimes hesitate for 304 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 1: his throwing, which doesn't help when you don't have a 305 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: big arm. You've got to get the ball out in rhythm, 306 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: on time. And his decision making has been up and down. 307 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 1: And I think for a while they weren't short. Is 308 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: that because it's just who he is or is it 309 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:19,559 Speaker 1: because of his inexperience because despite his age, he hadn't 310 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 1: started a lot until this year and so that there 311 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: was a season long growing process there. And then I 312 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: think the other thing is too you look at the 313 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:30,679 Speaker 1: talent around him, it's not a lot. You know. They 314 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:35,959 Speaker 1: lost Moden Thomas Um early in December. They lost running 315 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: back JD. Tight End. They lost j D. Mckissic, their 316 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 1: third down back, in a very good third down back. 317 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: They lost him five or six weeks ago. You know, 318 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: Terry McCord is their standout receiver, but he doesn't have 319 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: much help, consistent help around him. Chritis, Samuel was never 320 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: a factor, and Tonio Gibson banged up in missed last week. 321 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 1: So there's been some of that that hasn't helped Heineke 322 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: because he's not it's not like he's running with um 323 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 1: you know, uh, this great supporting cast around him, but 324 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 1: from his own play, his decision making, he just hasn't 325 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 1: been as good. And you'll see him sometimes but he 326 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: grew up watching Gret Far and you can kind of 327 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 1: tell based on the way he plays. The problem is 328 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: he's not Gret Far. You know, he doesn't doesn't have 329 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: the ob doesn't have that. If you're going to try 330 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: and force the ball times and you're gonna throw picks, 331 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: you better throw a lot in excuse me, a lot 332 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 1: of touchdowns too. And he hasn't done that. So you know, 333 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: it's it's decision making and it's you know, some arm 334 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: strength when it when it goes bad, it goes bad, 335 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: and I would liken him to almost like a finesse 336 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: right handed pitcher in baseball. When he goes well, it's like, wow, 337 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: that was a really good game. But when you when 338 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 1: it when that, you know, when you're change up is 339 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 1: a little bit off, your crew balls a little bit off, 340 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: you're going to get hammered. John. It's interesting to hear 341 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: your breakdown of the quarterback situation. And I don't want 342 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 1: to put words in your mouth, but you know just 343 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 1: how it's hard to get a good read on Heineke, 344 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: perhaps because the personnel hasn't remained stable. It's very similar 345 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 1: to conversations we've had about Daniel Jones and the Giants 346 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: this season. They brought into Darius Tony, they brought in 347 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: Kenny Gouty. These guys haven't stayed in the field. You 348 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: mentioned Curtis Samuel and Logan Thomas. So I guess what 349 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 1: I'm getting at is how much is this game or 350 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: the last few games truly an evaluation of what they 351 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: have currently on the roster to determine what they're gonna 352 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 1: do moving forward this offseason. Considering you know, there's a 353 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: team that's still looking for stability under center Yeah, they're dopey. 354 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: I will say it is they know what they have 355 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: in Heineke. So when I when I talked about the 356 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: stuff around him, it's not so much about a full 357 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: evaluations about being more productive. But they know who he 358 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: is as a quarterback. So they're going to look hard 359 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: for one this offseason. That is a top priority now, 360 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 1: whether or not they're successful. I think what he does 361 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: is it gives you some flexibility that if you don't 362 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: find you know, you don't have to settle for just anybody. 363 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: It's got to be a really good option. But they're 364 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: gonna look for that because they kind of they've they've 365 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: always viewed him, even when there was a stretch where 366 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: they won four in a row and started to play 367 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: pretty well. I mean, we had a couple of good games, 368 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: but even then, they knew that they would consider him 369 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: a high end backup, low end starter. So we'll start there. 370 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: So that will be a you know, that's the that's 371 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 1: the priority in the off season. As far as other 372 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: stuff around there. You know, they again Curtis Samuel being 373 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 1: hurt almost all a year did not help them at all, 374 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: So you know, they drafted Diammy Browner receiver in the 375 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: third round hasn't made much of an impact, and so 376 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: that those who are supposed to be two guys who 377 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 1: are gonna be key factors for them and offensively this season. 378 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: So if they're either going to have to find someone 379 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 1: else to help Terry McLaurin and I would still look 380 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: for another guy, or you better hope that they stay 381 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: healthy and and that Diammy Brown develops. I think getting 382 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: you know, um, I think so one of the guys 383 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: you might see who they could take a look at 384 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: a little bit Sunday is tight end sam As Rays, 385 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 1: the first Chilean born player in the NFL. Has he 386 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 1: never played organized football until this year, so but he's 387 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: playing special teams. They're they're down a couple of tight 388 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: ends with Thomas and the Ricky Seals Jones and the 389 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 1: concussion protocol, so they're gonna need sam As Rays. So 390 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: I think, you know what, he may get his first 391 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 1: NFL reception on Sunday. It would be a big deal 392 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 1: for him. But he's a guy that could he developed 393 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,199 Speaker 1: next year into a contributor. He's not going to be 394 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: a standout, but could he be a contributor next year. Um. 395 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:32,360 Speaker 1: More of a contributor, so you know, I think as 396 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: far the other parts of the evaluation, I think the 397 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: other part is too When you're in this situation, a 398 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: big part of it is who who stays focused and 399 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: who doesn't, because really you're trying to determine as much 400 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 1: as you want to see how a guy plays, you 401 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:47,400 Speaker 1: still want to see. Okay, you're out of it, there's 402 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: no playoffs, how do you prepare, how do you go out? 403 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: What's your approach this week when there's nothing on the line. 404 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 1: I think that's a big part of the evaluation as well. Well, 405 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: what are the other ways that you decide what it 406 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 1: is that you have. Is you look at the opponent 407 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 1: and you hope that they're going to at least give 408 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 1: you some kind of test, a litmus test, if you will, 409 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: so that you can evaluate some of these guys. Like 410 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 1: from the Giants perspective, their offensive line has been a mess. Okay, 411 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,120 Speaker 1: they've had a lot of trouble getting the running game going, 412 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:17,360 Speaker 1: but say Kuan Barkley ran for a hundred and two 413 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:20,160 Speaker 1: yards last weekend and he started looking like the old 414 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 1: say quad again. So if the Giants are to get 415 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:25,719 Speaker 1: the running game going against Washington's front and I know 416 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 1: it's not the same as it was supposed to be obviously. 417 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:31,159 Speaker 1: I mean, they've got Sweat, I'm I'm guessing he's not 418 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:33,239 Speaker 1: going to be available, and I know Young has been 419 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:37,360 Speaker 1: out for a while. What kind of of fight can 420 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: the Washington front seven put up against the Giant running game? 421 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:45,679 Speaker 1: If the Giants want to evaluate Barkley, that's a good question, 422 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: and I think they're not. You're you're not going to 423 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:52,640 Speaker 1: face the line that you'll face if they let's say 424 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 1: they play Week one next year. It's not the same line. 425 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 1: Now you'll have the same cackles. Because John Allen, Doron Payne, 426 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: met I unitas um, those are their top tackles. They'll 427 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:07,120 Speaker 1: be there. But at defense of end Montes, Sweat hasn't 428 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 1: you know, missed last week because the death of his brother, 429 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: and hasn't been a practice this week. Clearly it doesn't 430 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: appear that he's going to play, so you won't see him. 431 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 1: And so now you're down to the next the second 432 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 1: set event, Casey to Hill, who will play. He's one 433 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 1: of their top backup end. But then the other top 434 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 1: backup end, James says, Williams has been he had COVID, 435 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 1: but because he has asthma, he's been dealing with some 436 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: health issues since COVID, he hasn't been you know, I 437 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 1: I don't know that he hasn't been practicing. So now 438 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: you're down to another set of events who have been disappointed. 439 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: So when I say that, because you know, are they 440 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 1: going to get a true evaluation? Well, I think it depends. 441 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 1: You know who's doing lot. Is it because you're getting 442 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 1: on the edge because he ends up being taken care of. 443 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: Well that maybe not a fool about you know, full 444 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 1: sense of where they're really at. But if you're running 445 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 1: downhill and you're moving alan out the way and you're 446 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:02,160 Speaker 1: doing this, then you can get a better sense. And 447 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 1: I think a linebacker will be a big key too, 448 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:08,640 Speaker 1: because last week David Mayo, um what it was, inserted 449 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: as the mic linebacker and they put co Holcum to 450 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: the outside. They did a better job in the run 451 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: game with that group when with those two in there, 452 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 1: with Mayo calling the signals and Hope them being allowed 453 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 1: to play more naturally outside, Mayo more instinctive as a 454 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,639 Speaker 1: mic linebacker, even though he projects still get back up. 455 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: So you know, the Eagles faced the same situation in Washington. 456 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 1: There pretty good job against the run last week, so 457 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 1: you can get a good evaluation. But I think it 458 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 1: just depends like you're not facing the a level line 459 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 1: that you will face next year or that they faced 460 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:44,159 Speaker 1: earlier in the year. But I still think listen, I 461 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 1: still think if you go out and they if they 462 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 1: have a really big game on the ground, I still 463 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 1: think it says something. We're talking with John Time, ESPN 464 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: NFL Nation reporter who covers the Washington football team. John, 465 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 1: it terms of the evaluation of the defense now that 466 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,040 Speaker 1: we have really an entire season to look back on, 467 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 1: I think it's fair to say that entering this year, 468 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: if we looked at the NFC East as a whole, 469 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 1: if there was one facet I thought was probably in 470 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 1: good shape to duplicated success from two thousand twenty would 471 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 1: probably be the Washington defense. And then you look at 472 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 1: their numbers this season, whether it be third down defense 473 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: thirty one, their thirtie against, the pass points per game allowed, 474 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 1: their I know you ran through they've been without some guys. 475 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: They lost, of course Chase Young, But why was it 476 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: such a challenge, John for this defense run by Jack 477 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,479 Speaker 1: del Rio that seemed to turn the corner last season 478 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 1: to at least remain consistent for the most part of 479 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 1: this year. Okay, well bear with me for a minute 480 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:42,640 Speaker 1: because I'm going to get a little bit involved here 481 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: because I think there's a lot to unwrap here and 482 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 1: I'll go level by level. So, first of all, they 483 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 1: faced better quarterbacks this year overall. I mean, they knew 484 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: that there the stats were going to be the same, 485 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 1: partly for that reason, like that, you know that it's 486 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:01,880 Speaker 1: it's Mahomes, Rogers, Brady, Um, you know, Derek Carr, Jak 487 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 1: Prescott twice. Um. Just there, I'm gonna I'm leaving out 488 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 1: a handful of guys because I just off the top 489 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 1: of Herbert Allen, they faced a lot of really good 490 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:18,959 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, Okay, exactly, So you know all that. So 491 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,439 Speaker 1: that is so going into the season, I thought, if 492 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 1: they're around the top ten, that's pretty good for this schedule. Well, 493 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,159 Speaker 1: they haven't hit that. So early in the year. The 494 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 1: pass rush and the coverage weren't sinking up and there 495 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 1: were I think they they felt like with that for 496 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: that front, for a young Alan Payne sweat that they'd 497 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:40,679 Speaker 1: be able to put pressure with the front four, so 498 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,239 Speaker 1: they weren't as aggressive like on a third down with 499 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: their blitz looks or their coverage schemes, and the result 500 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 1: was horrendous third down defense. Horrendous. It was like they 501 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,360 Speaker 1: kept waiting for this is going to be the game 502 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: the front four takes over, and it really wasn't happening. 503 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 1: So what actually they when they actually started playing better 504 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,439 Speaker 1: is when Chase Young Tears's a c l and Montes 505 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 1: Sweat goes out with the broken jaw, it's not because 506 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 1: they're out, but it's because they had to change their strategy. 507 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: So they started blitzing more on third downs, and for 508 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 1: about a six or seven games stretch, they actually played 509 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: really well to probably to about where the level you 510 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: thought they would, and then the injury started to take 511 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: over and the attrition took over, and and that was it. 512 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 1: So like the last month, you can look at it 513 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: and say they just you know, you know, there were 514 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:32,679 Speaker 1: some issues. Atlantic Collins was really good for them. He 515 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 1: got hurt, but it was really good for them, playing 516 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 1: the safety linebacker hybrid role, a dynamic He was more 517 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 1: dynamic down there, so that was a difference. So they 518 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 1: went to more zone coverage in that stretch versus man. 519 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: They opened the season wanted to play a lot of 520 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 1: man and it didn't work. So there were a lot 521 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: of I think there were some things that they had 522 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,360 Speaker 1: to learn about them and and then they changed things 523 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: up and then in the end, I just felt like 524 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 1: they just didn't have enough because of attrition, um, you 525 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 1: know and all that. But you know, but you're right, 526 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: like they did not. They underachieved by a decent amount. Well, 527 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 1: you know, John, the other thing that's been very common 528 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,640 Speaker 1: in this division is that for a while now, these 529 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: offensive lines have started to struggle. I mean, even Dallas, 530 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 1: they've had their moments, ups and downs. For the last decade, 531 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 1: for the most part, been really good, but they've also 532 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: had some of their troubles. To Washington's offensive line has 533 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 1: had some struggles. The Giants old lines a mess. Philadelphia 534 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:29,400 Speaker 1: seems to be the only one in this division that's 535 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: got it right. Yeah, they do. And you know, it's funny. 536 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: I was just talking about somebody that about them today 537 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: and just like one of the differences in their line 538 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 1: compared to the others is there seems to be more 539 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: athleticism and and it really fits that run game well. 540 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: And so so yeah, I think that, like their run 541 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 1: game is really good, and some of that is Jalen 542 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 1: Hurts and the zone read and the threat of him 543 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:58,160 Speaker 1: running and creating arm tackle situations, which I saw way 544 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: back in two thousand and twelve when Griffin the Third 545 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 1: was doing it. Here you see how defenses react and 546 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,920 Speaker 1: the hesitation that causes, and you were seeing that, and 547 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: I think their line does a really nice job as 548 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,199 Speaker 1: well along with that. So but yeah, I mean, you 549 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 1: know Washington's line, they're on their fourth starting center that 550 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 1: you know, they've had guys in and out because of 551 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 1: like like a lot of teams in and out because 552 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: of COVID or some health issues. Um. And they've actually 553 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: given all that. I think they've actually done all right. Um, 554 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:33,199 Speaker 1: but there is a an inconsistency that develops, and like 555 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 1: in their run game, to me, they almost always have 556 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 1: to fool you a little bit with with motion tight 557 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 1: end action versus just being able to run it. You know, 558 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 1: if you need is thirda and line you just sort 559 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: of right up the gut. It's been a hit or 560 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 1: missed for them because I don't think they have that 561 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 1: kind of a line, you know, they know, especially in 562 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 1: the interior at times, um, but I think that, you know, 563 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 1: I think going forward they could, But you know, I 564 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 1: agree with I think that's a big reason why the 565 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 1: Egos are in the spot there, and is because their 566 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,959 Speaker 1: line has been really good. John. Last one for me 567 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 1: in terms of strategy entering this game. I know we 568 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,360 Speaker 1: talked about playing time and how Washington is gonna be 569 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 1: a team showcasing a lot of young players by default 570 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: because of all their injuries. But what do you think 571 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,159 Speaker 1: their ideal game plan is going into this contest against 572 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 1: the Giants? Is it running the ball as you had 573 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 1: mentioned because Gibson has been banged up. I know they 574 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 1: were showcasing Jared Patterson. Do you think they'll go run heavy? 575 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 1: Do you think they'll try to air things out? How 576 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 1: do you think they're gonna try to attack the Giants 577 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,159 Speaker 1: knowing that they had success moving the ball, but that 578 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 1: seemed like ancient centuries ago in week two. It does, 579 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 1: and you know how they'll do it. You know, like 580 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 1: a couple of years agoing against Dallas, I felt like 581 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: they were gonna run the ball, come out running the ball, 582 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,120 Speaker 1: et cetera. And they came out throwing five of the 583 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 1: person's plays so I don't always have. I don't know 584 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 1: it's so what they're gonna do, because it kind of 585 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 1: crossed up like for a long time, I'm like, this 586 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,639 Speaker 1: team has to run the ball more. They're not built 587 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 1: to win another way. And but what I could see 588 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,360 Speaker 1: is if they, you know, certainly feel like they can 589 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 1: do it because the pass rush may not be there 590 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 1: and get Terry McClure and the ball, I can definitely 591 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 1: see that as well. Um, but I would I would, 592 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,199 Speaker 1: you know, And I think if Kyle Allen comes in, 593 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,199 Speaker 1: you'll definitely see him throw the ball at least a 594 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: little bit, because when you're not gonna bring him in 595 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 1: just to hand it off a lot, right, Um, But 596 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 1: you know, I think the talent, I still think their 597 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 1: ability to run will be has to be what leads them, 598 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 1: even even in the season, any game where nothing's on 599 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:41,440 Speaker 1: the line. He is John Kyme, ESPN NFL Nation reporter 600 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 1: covering the Washington football team is the Giants in Washington 601 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:48,120 Speaker 1: will wrap up their season on Sunday at MetLife Stadium. 602 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 1: John can't thank you enough greatly appreciate the time of 603 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 1: the inside. And I think you and I and everybody 604 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,120 Speaker 1: else covering both of these teams can speak in terms 605 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 1: of it's kind of exciting that we're finally gonna wrap 606 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:02,479 Speaker 1: up these campaigns. Yeah, yeah, I'm in the off season. 607 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 1: Let's at six or five six months of speculation. But yeah, 608 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 1: I mean it's been brutal last month, so you know 609 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,360 Speaker 1: it's time for it to end. Well said, We appreciate 610 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:14,880 Speaker 1: the time. Thanks again, John, Thanks John. Thanks, that's John 611 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 1: Time covers Washington for ESPN. Now, finally Bob Popa for 612 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 1: the last time this regular season, we'll talk to head 613 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 1: coach Joe Judge. As always, we're joined by the head 614 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,199 Speaker 1: coach of the New York Giants, Joe Judge, coach regular 615 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 1: season finale against Washington. Let's talk a little bit about 616 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,439 Speaker 1: your ball club and the way they've responded to the 617 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 1: challenges this week, trying to end the season on a 618 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: positive note. Yeah, you know what, they came in to 619 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 1: work on Wednesday, and like every other week of the year, 620 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 1: they came in with, you know, the right look in 621 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 1: her eyes. We've had good work on the field and 622 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 1: we've gotten ready for this game and I'm looking forward 623 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 1: to seeing one more opportunity this team on the field 624 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: out there competing and I'm not throughout the year. I 625 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 1: want to make sure we have good execution. Today, we're 626 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 1: playing a very good team as far as defense and 627 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 1: ability offensively makes some big chunk plays on us. So 628 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 1: it's gonna take some execution on the field. You know, 629 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 1: look at the guys, go out and make sure they 630 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 1: play at the right effort, right demeanor and gets some 631 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 1: execution going force coach Um. Obviously, you know you played them, 632 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 1: but it was so long ago. I mean, how much 633 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 1: have they changed, if at all, from when you played 634 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 1: them way back in September. Well, you know, it seems 635 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 1: like almost a full season and go when we played 636 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 1: them back in the second game of the year, and 637 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,479 Speaker 1: you really talk about I think Hyake has really improved 638 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 1: as a player, and he's done a lot of things 639 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 1: as far as you know, really mature in as a quarterback. 640 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 1: They've had some injuries, key injuries that their offensive weapons. 641 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 1: That's changed a little bit how they've attacked it. But 642 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 1: I think the root of what they're doing systematically is 643 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 1: really still the same. Defensively, you know, Jack system has 644 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 1: been consistent throughout you know years. He's gonna play the 645 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 1: quarters and man, they're gonna be after four. You know, 646 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 1: we may see some five defensive lignement sets like we 647 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 1: saw they saw last week in the Philly games because 648 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 1: we run heavy empsis, you know, offensively, you know, the 649 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 1: focus of Logan in the red area that obviously he's 650 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 1: going away Longtom says with the injury and then Mkissick 651 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 1: not being available on the twenty personnel sets, the two 652 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 1: back sets where he's almost as a hybrid receiver running 653 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 1: back in different sets. That's changed a little bit of 654 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 1: what they've done, but it's really heavy. Insists on the stretch, 655 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 1: run game, the boots, the screens on the perimeter, and 656 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 1: shots down the field. Mclarene really emerged as a shot 657 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 1: guy for these guys down the field. You know, so 658 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 1: much of his production in previous years and before that 659 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 1: first game we played against this year came from the 660 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: catching run underneath type of routes. Not that he didn't 661 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 1: have the speed, but he's really emerged as a shot 662 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 1: guy going down the field, you know, throughout the season. 663 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 1: Coach Um, you know, he's a pretty complete receiver, isn't he. Um. 664 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 1: You know, obviously there's a lot of other name brand guys, 665 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 1: but he seems to do just about everything that needs 666 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 1: to be done. Well, yeah, I think he's a very 667 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 1: good player, and he's a very good player. I think 668 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 1: his production speaks for itself. You know, when you talk 669 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 1: about this guy, I remember when he came out, you know, 670 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 1: from college, and the evaluation is really most scouts evaluate 671 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 1: him as almost being just exclusively a special teams type 672 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 1: player who may have some kind of developmental role in offense. 673 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 1: And I'd say that there's a lot of people that 674 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 1: are very wrong on that from the beginning, and this 675 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 1: guy's really emerged as a very good weapon on offense. 676 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 1: He has some good versatility in terms of how you 677 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 1: can use them. And again, this perimeter screens are released 678 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 1: an extension of the run game. So you're using this 679 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 1: guy to get the ball in his hands as fast 680 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,479 Speaker 1: as possible, and then he's got very of speed down 681 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 1: the field, has good hands, can track the ball, and 682 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 1: he's really improved when his route running is a complete tree. So, yeah, 683 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 1: this guy's really maturing as a player in this leag 684 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 1: He's gonna be a good player for some years to come. Coach, 685 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,719 Speaker 1: going back to last week and and bringing it forward 686 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 1: to this week, Um, there were certain points in the 687 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 1: game where you know, the Bears had a pretty good 688 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 1: idea you're gonna run the ball, but you guys were 689 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 1: still able to move that line of scrimmage and get 690 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 1: productive runs. Is that something that you're looking to build 691 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 1: upon this week as far as that run game is concerned. Yeah. Absolutely, 692 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a way of how we're gonna have 693 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 1: to play. And you know, situationally, you know, look to 694 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 1: go ahead and throw opportune you know, favorble throws force, 695 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 1: but we gotta be able to run the ball today, 696 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 1: and they're gonna know where to run the ball, and 697 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 1: we've gotta be able to line up there, move the 698 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage, create some scenes on the backs of 699 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 1: downhill hard coach, can you talk a little bit about 700 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 1: the growth of what you've seen so far from Andrew 701 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 1: Thomas as he gets through year number two and continues 702 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 1: to build a resume. He's really grown a lot this year, 703 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 1: and you know, you looking in his rookie year and obviously, 704 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 1: you know we talked about last year, you didn't have 705 00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,239 Speaker 1: a preseason, took Hi a little while to get going. 706 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 1: Really gonna feel for leg and he turned on towards 707 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 1: the end of the year. Really improved. You can see 708 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 1: in year two, not so much just being used to 709 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 1: the speed of the leg, but his understanding of what 710 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 1: happens across men and the systems and how different teams 711 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 1: use the personnel. And you can see him really thinking, 712 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 1: you know, at a faster rate, and that allows him 713 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 1: to play more aggressive. You know, he's a good run blocker. 714 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 1: He's very good pass blocker. You know. You see, this 715 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 1: guy's an athletic big man, but he's really a guy 716 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 1: that's he's that quiet guy that really talks with his 717 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 1: pads and uh, you know, he's really emerged for us. 718 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 1: It's kind of a quiet leader. Guy leads by example, 719 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 1: but his teammates really rally around him. Coach on the 720 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 1: other side of the ball. Um he missed a lot 721 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 1: of last year due to injury, but just talk about 722 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 1: the growth that you've seen in Xavier McKinney as far 723 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 1: as just his football i Q the range. He always 724 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 1: seems to take proper angles to the ball, and it 725 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 1: just seems like his thought process and then his physical 726 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 1: gifts are all starting to kind of come together. He's 727 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 1: a guy who's really finding his voice, you know, within 728 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 1: the team, and he's a guy that works very hard 729 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 1: to practice. You know, the team means a whole lot 730 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 1: to him, Competing means a lot to him, and having 731 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 1: success means a lot to him. And that comes out 732 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 1: and how he prepares, and he's a guy that wears 733 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 1: his hard in the sleeve through practice. He's a guy 734 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 1: that's been able in some key team meetings we've had 735 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 1: this year, and he said, he spoke up and and 736 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 1: you know, made it known that you know what's important 737 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 1: to him and you know how we have to go 738 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 1: about doing things. And he's really found his voice. But 739 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 1: you talked about him on the field of how he works, 740 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 1: but just the instincts on the back end. You're right. 741 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 1: He takes great angles, little ball. He's got great ball skills, 742 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 1: and he's get the ability to go ahead and create turnovers. 743 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 1: He's very smart and intelligent and he can die. He 744 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 1: really diagnose, you know, what's going on from the other team, 745 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 1: what they're looking to set up schematically based on how 746 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 1: they're positioning their players, and then also the down and distance, 747 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 1: and that's put in position this year to really go 748 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 1: ahead and have a lot of opportunities to turnovers, past breakups, 749 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 1: things of that nature. He's made a lot of big 750 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 1: plays for us, and he's a guy that's growing, he's improving. 751 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 1: Last year he missed a lot of time with injury. 752 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 1: We've had some rookies this year that have missed a 753 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,719 Speaker 1: lot of time of injury as well. You know, hopefully 754 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 1: they can make the same kind of jump as A's 755 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 1: made in year two. But this guy, you know, you 756 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 1: look at just his physical traits, but then also the 757 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 1: demeanor he approaches the game with and the leadership he's developing, 758 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 1: and he should be a key part of this team 759 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,479 Speaker 1: for years to come. Coach final question. We got some 760 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,799 Speaker 1: snow Thursday night in the friday, so you had them 761 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,799 Speaker 1: clear the grass and uh, you got the practice out 762 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,800 Speaker 1: there a little bit. What was that like? It was fun? 763 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 1: It was fun. You know, guys go out there a 764 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 1: great energy and practice. And we talked him say, hey, guys, 765 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 1: the last practice of the year, that's what it is. 766 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 1: We only have a couple of opportunities left to be 767 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:25,840 Speaker 1: a team out there. And they went out there with 768 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 1: a good Friday practice, a lot of competition, you know 769 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 1: kind of and you saw you guys have a lot 770 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 1: of fun coming off the field with you know, snowball 771 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:33,960 Speaker 1: fights and wrestling and snow all types of stuff. But 772 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 1: it was good. You know, it was obviously very windy 773 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,880 Speaker 1: and very very cold, but you know, you wouldn't have 774 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 1: been able to tell the way they were flying around 775 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 1: out there and having fun. Coach, we appreciate a couple 776 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 1: of minutes. Good luck in the ball game. Thanks for 777 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,319 Speaker 1: doing this each and every week to give the fans 778 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,319 Speaker 1: a little insight as to the ball club, and we 779 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 1: appreciate the time. As always, he man appreciate it. Thanks guys, 780 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 1: that's Johnt said coach Joe Judge. We thank him for 781 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 1: joining us at all season long end this week on 782 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,120 Speaker 1: the Giants Little Podcast, thank you to John Come and 783 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 1: Jake from as well. I am John Schmall. Thanks so 784 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:04,759 Speaker 1: much for being with us. We'll see you next time 785 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 1: on the Giants Huddle. Happy knew you everybody. We'll talk 786 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 1: to you soon.