Speaker 1: Call It what It Is with Jessica Capshaw and Camille Luddington,
Speaker 1: an iHeartRadio podcast. Hello, Hello, Hello, Hello, Call It crew,
Speaker 1: and welcome to our first call it a rewatch.
Speaker 2: Oh. I like the way that sounded it does. I
Speaker 2: like new things. I like new things.
Speaker 1: We've I mean, this is what twenty twenty fially you
Speaker 1: bringing you guys. You're welcome new things, asking you shall receive.
Speaker 2: I know, gosh, it was I gotta say this, really,
Speaker 2: this really took me back. This was really fun, literally
Speaker 2: and figuratively. I in the weirdest way. I would say
Speaker 2: it was the thing that I didn't know that I wanted.
Speaker 2: Because you know, people do ask me quite often do
Speaker 2: you watch the show when you're on it? And also
Speaker 2: like do you still watch the show or do you
Speaker 2: know how does the show affect your life? And I
Speaker 2: talk so much about having been a fan of the show,
Speaker 2: But that was when I wasn't on it, and then
Speaker 2: I got on it, and then I definitely did watch
Speaker 2: probably the first twenty five to fifty episodes that I
Speaker 2: was on, I probably watched.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you feel like you lived it, like
Speaker 1: you're I don't need to watch it, like I've heard
Speaker 1: it in the table read I lived it, and now
Speaker 1: you know you're moving on in the story.
Speaker 2: But the first twenty five to fifty I was checking
Speaker 2: my work. Evidently after that first quit long, you just
Speaker 2: need to check my work, Yeah, yeah, yeah, or or
Speaker 2: maybe I just yeah. I don't know, but I definitely
Speaker 2: did transition out of watching it every week, and so
Speaker 2: then I think I would just watch a couple maybe
Speaker 2: during the season. And now here we are being asked
Speaker 2: to rewatch. And I have to say that the first
Speaker 2: thing that I thought was this is a really good show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, should we talk about Okay, let's talk about what
Speaker 1: episode we is? Our first recap episode. Well, it was
Speaker 1: the People's choice. It's the people's choice. We threw it
Speaker 1: out to the crew. We're like, what do you want
Speaker 1: us to do first? And overwhelmingly, yeah, overwhelmingly.
Speaker 2: It was a wed episode. It was the weed cookies.
Speaker 1: It was the weed cookie episode, which was not surprising.
Speaker 1: And what's funny is I thought to myself, what do
Speaker 1: I actually remember storyline about that? I mean, I remember,
Speaker 1: like some people ate the wee cookies, but I watching
Speaker 1: it back, it was like a fresh episode to me.
Speaker 2: Well, it was also we made it five six years ago,
Speaker 2: I heart said to me.
Speaker 1: When I got on this call, They're like, you know
Speaker 1: that episode was six years ago. I was like, what,
Speaker 1: no wonder, I look young and fresh.
Speaker 2: Okay, so let's be honest. When we had a very
Speaker 2: very brief chat before we got to sat down to record,
Speaker 2: and I said to Kamilla a lot of things that
Speaker 2: we'll talk about, but one of the things I said was, oh,
Speaker 2: you look so pretty. And what did you say back?
Speaker 2: I said, I did look so pretty.
Speaker 1: And I was like, wow, you look so pretty Lunnington.
Speaker 1: And then I spent some of the episode just vanity wise,
Speaker 1: wondering where.
Speaker 2: It's gone wrong? Do you know what I mean? Like,
Speaker 2: what what exactly has slid.
Speaker 1: On my face? What is melting to make me look
Speaker 1: the way I look now? I wish i'd appreciated that
Speaker 1: back then. You're crazy. You look even But I said
Speaker 1: to Jess in return, you look even hotter now.
Speaker 2: Because by the way, she did not say to me,
Speaker 2: you look so pretty.
Speaker 1: Too, I said, I think you look hotterer now, like
Speaker 1: pure girlfriend, like Vanity. You know, I think Jess is
Speaker 1: as she ages, she's made a deal with the devil
Speaker 1: and she's getting hotter and the rest of us are melting.
Speaker 2: I will I will take that compliment. I will take
Speaker 2: that compliment. And then uh, and then I do remember
Speaker 2: saying back to you funny because if if that is true, yeah,
Speaker 2: I have a worldwide audience of you know, my worldwide
Speaker 2: audience appreciating what's happened. It's diminished since the years where
Speaker 2: it was on television every week with whatever it is
Speaker 2: that I look like in the episode that we're we watching, Yeah,
Speaker 2: you said how many millions of people will watch me then?
Speaker 1: And now it's like seven. You said, it's just the
Speaker 1: dog's that one horse and the kids.
Speaker 2: I know it is what it is. The chickens. The
Speaker 2: chickens get the nice Yes, the chickens. You know. The
Speaker 2: poppy named one of them China, and I was like
Speaker 2: short for what she's like, the Jina. Of course, I
Speaker 2: have a chicken named China. Listen, China's a cute chicken.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 1: We have to jump in though, because I can. I
Speaker 1: tell you I have six I stole my kids notepad.
Speaker 1: I have six pages of notes on this episode. I
Speaker 1: went through it and I and like just said, when
Speaker 1: we were watching back when I was watching it, back,
Speaker 1: I was like, A, this cast is fantastic, this is
Speaker 1: this is a great cast. The storyline's fantastic, everyone's so solid.
Speaker 1: I was laughing. I was into all the storylines. I
Speaker 1: was shocked by someone's like what what, and of course,
Speaker 1: like I know that it happened, but I don't remember.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I too felt the same way. I just was
Speaker 2: in awe of how good everyone is and how perfectly cast.
Speaker 2: Shout out to Linda Lowie. I mean, truly, the show
Speaker 2: is just so well cast. Everyone's so good in it.
Speaker 2: There were things that they were doing that I was like, God,
Speaker 2: I don't And then I was trying to think back
Speaker 2: to you know, I think it's worth mentioning the table
Speaker 2: read is where it all starts. Yeah, and I do.
Speaker 2: It was trying to remember the table read, and I
Speaker 2: remember certain shows you know from the table read. You
Speaker 2: know that it's you feel kind of bad for the
Speaker 2: director because they're usually you know, only there for that episode,
Speaker 2: and you're like, ooh, this one's so good. Don't get up. Yeah,
Speaker 2: this one's good. And it was written by Julie Wong,
Speaker 2: who is just a fan favorite and a hilarious human being.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you go back and watch Julia Wang's episodes,
Speaker 1: you will realize she can do it all. But she
Speaker 1: can really do comedy. And I think comedy is hard
Speaker 1: to write.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh got it.
Speaker 1: But she just always steps up to the plate when
Speaker 1: she has to write an episode that's funny, It's gonna
Speaker 1: be funy.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Then a director was a female director that episode,
Speaker 2: Sidney Freeland. Yes, yep, I felt a little bit. Like
Speaker 2: I said, I felt for her. I didn't feel bad
Speaker 2: for her. I felt for her because there was a
Speaker 2: lot of pressure to get this really awesome episode done well.
Speaker 2: And it was episode twenty of that season, which means
Speaker 2: we were all nearing the end of the season. And
Speaker 2: do you know what happens when that happens during that
Speaker 2: time of the season.
Speaker 1: Well, it's a certain time of year in a certain
Speaker 1: seasons where people are up for renegotiation.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, but I'm talking about this just that was
Speaker 2: true of that year, but but that this is like
Speaker 2: any year when you coming up to potentially twenty four.
Speaker 2: And so we're in twenty So everyone's.
Speaker 1: Toasty, everyone is tired. Okay, So where to start, Well,
Speaker 1: the let's start with the episode opens up. So the
Speaker 1: episode opens up on what I think is probably the
Speaker 1: most important character of the show. Go what the rewatches
Speaker 1: are gonna be about?
Speaker 2: You guys? It opens up with a gorgeous at Joe Wilson.
Speaker 1: It opens up with me pushing a mouse through the
Speaker 1: hospital because there it.
Speaker 2: Is competition day.
Speaker 1: You know what I thought of when I saw myself
Speaker 1: on TV, I was like, in the episode on TV,
Speaker 1: what's on TV? I was like, Oh, I would have
Speaker 1: been so excited that day to not be in scrubs.
Speaker 1: It's very rare on the show that you don't have
Speaker 1: to wear scrubs. And the fact that I was in
Speaker 1: reg regular clothes. Mimi was our customer. She was fantastic,
Speaker 1: And I just remember being very excited to be able
Speaker 1: to wear my hair down because I'm always in a bun.
Speaker 1: Look a little cute or look a little more put together.
Speaker 1: And I'm wheeling the mouse in because Joe and Meredith
Speaker 1: are working on something together and there is a grant
Speaker 1: up for grabs in this competition that's about.
Speaker 2: To be held. Yep, there's a little bit more. Everybody's
Speaker 2: a little bit more in performance mode because there are
Speaker 2: people actually giving presentations that are going to be performances.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I was trying to remember if David Bowie
Speaker 1: the mouse was real or like a CGI mouse, and
Speaker 1: I couldn't remember that.
Speaker 2: I wish I could.
Speaker 1: I don't know if we had a professional mouse act
Speaker 1: remember stuff I wasn't even there for. And then okay,
Speaker 1: so we get we and so then we get into
Speaker 1: the what is that room called that we're all in,
Speaker 1: I know, auditorium, Like yeah, it's like our presentation space.
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, we don't go there often, but it's
Speaker 2: when yeah, we give auditorium the auditorium.
Speaker 1: And I think we can say that the scenes when
Speaker 1: we're it's rare that we're.
Speaker 2: All together and it takes a long time to film.
Speaker 2: It takes a long time.
Speaker 1: To film, but it's rare we're all together, and there's
Speaker 1: a certain energy when everyone's in the scene together. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: there's more potential for in laughter.
Speaker 2: Gree is what I was gonna say. Actually, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: there's always more potential. And you always have the same
Speaker 2: like the same people like you. You know that Jesse's
Speaker 2: going to be given me shit about something, Yeah, I
Speaker 2: know it. You don't. You don't have to wonder then
Speaker 2: you're going to be giving him about this.
Speaker 1: Of course, absolutely as I should. We had some new
Speaker 1: interns sort of in there.
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 1: I remember when I was watching that scene, I was
Speaker 1: Maggie and Jackson had this cute little interaction and I.
Speaker 2: Forgot that they were together. Yes, I forgot. I forgot.
Speaker 2: And then when they were kind of like it wasn't sexy,
Speaker 2: but it was like intimate, like you know, like you
Speaker 2: kept me up all night or whatever where she says
Speaker 2: like you kid me and she's like she's like, get
Speaker 2: out of here. I was like this little flirty and
Speaker 2: I was like, wait.
Speaker 1: There to get I mean, I for some reason, that's
Speaker 1: like a race for my memory.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I think that what
Speaker 2: replaces it is just the fact that ultimately on the show,
Speaker 2: the ships that are the true ships end up just
Speaker 2: being the ships. You remember, and you know that it's
Speaker 2: Sarah and Jesse.
Speaker 1: You know that it's yeah, it's Sarah and Jesse Keepner,
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 2: Know what to tell you it is, by the way,
Speaker 2: I mean, I loved watching that relationship and they were
Speaker 2: so great. Kelly and Jesse were great together. I don't
Speaker 2: think so, Okay, we're gonna be honest, No, we're gonna
Speaker 2: be honest.
Speaker 1: And by the way, I think if we had Kelly
Speaker 1: on and we had Jesse on, I don't think that
Speaker 1: they I don't know what, well, listen, maybe they would
Speaker 1: argue so differently.
Speaker 2: But I felt at.
Speaker 1: The time as a viewer that something was a little
Speaker 1: off between those two characters. I didn't know what it was,
Speaker 1: wasn't it.
Speaker 2: It just wasn't in.
Speaker 1: And then I have to say, when Maggie and Winston
Speaker 1: got together, I was like, oh, that's cute, Like I'm
Speaker 1: into that for her husband that she ended up having
Speaker 1: on the show. I mean, they're divorced now spoiler alert.
Speaker 1: And then I just I felt like it felt to
Speaker 1: me like an in between me mm hmm, like I'm
Speaker 1: not a true sale ship, like an in between e ship.
Speaker 1: Sometimes a tweeny is necessary. Oh, we all have a
Speaker 1: tweeny to get out too the next weenie. We all
Speaker 1: have a tweeny for the next weenie.
Speaker 2: Yep, I got you. Okay, So you see that cute
Speaker 2: little moment. Then you see Richard and Catherine have their
Speaker 2: cu cute little moment, which also, like I knew, but
Speaker 2: I was reminded. And then Stefania yes, oh my gosh,
Speaker 2: and seeing them back together, so seat cute, so cute.
Speaker 1: I it's interesting because I didn't when I was when
Speaker 1: we were doing the episode, I kind of forgot where
Speaker 1: everyone is in their time on the show. So when
Speaker 1: I saw her sitting down, I was like.
Speaker 2: Oh, wait, are you guys together? Like what's the deal?
Speaker 2: Are you not together? Are you together?
Speaker 1: And then there was a little conversation that was very
Speaker 1: flirty and cute, and I remember like that. I know
Speaker 1: that was a tweeny relationship, but I think that could
Speaker 1: have gone the distance.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest, I think that could have worked.
Speaker 2: I know, I know, and I think that it was
Speaker 2: interesting because that particular season, well twenty, she came on
Speaker 2: as a guest star, and I think that I was
Speaker 2: told that she was going to really be like a
Speaker 2: short in between situation, and then it ended up becoming
Speaker 2: that she's so great that she's obviously stayed, and there
Speaker 2: was all this other story and the sister brother a relationship,
Speaker 2: and like there was so much room for it to happen.
Speaker 2: So I feel like it could have is my I'm
Speaker 2: an agreement. I think that had they've been given a
Speaker 2: little bit more of a chance, I think it probably
Speaker 2: would have gone.
Speaker 1: So you were with somebody else before that, you got
Speaker 1: you got a little ghosted by your previous little betweeny situation,
Speaker 1: and now you're you're kind of into this, you know,
Speaker 1: it's so funny. I wrote six pages of notes you
Speaker 1: guys when I read that when I was watching this,
Speaker 1: and one of my notes when Jessica appears on screen
Speaker 1: is we need to talk about your earring game. On
Speaker 1: Gray's Anatomy, earring game always, Jessica Capshaw always had you
Speaker 1: always had your three cute studs in that you would
Speaker 1: like change out, and it was just such a good
Speaker 1: earring game every episode.
Speaker 2: I just wanted to throw that out there. For the
Speaker 2: first couple of years, I just wore a heart shaped
Speaker 2: um hoop and then I think I probably just put
Speaker 2: stuff in, But yeah, thanks, thanks, it was up for
Speaker 2: the earing game. Well, so, yes, so Arizona comes in
Speaker 2: with the lesbian gratit two cookies. Well, but let's also
Speaker 2: remember what that because also when that was said, I
Speaker 2: was actually thinking, I mean, clearly the people watching it
Speaker 2: are fans, but that was based on the storyline that
Speaker 2: happened before where Arizona helps save this couple's baby and
Speaker 2: they come back in. But they're not. They're just like
Speaker 2: they just reappear, so you would have had to watch
Speaker 2: the episode before to know who they even were. But
Speaker 2: they've come back to the hospital and given Arizona cookies
Speaker 2: and said thank you so much, whatever, and then she
Speaker 2: starts giving out the cookies in this very packed room.
Speaker 1: I noticed I put down de Luca. It's very funny
Speaker 1: that de Luca's going through his heartbreak. I forgot that storyline.
Speaker 1: And he grabs he literally takes like four cookies. It's
Speaker 1: a good setup for the storyline.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is also a good time to say that
Speaker 2: Gray's has always been really really incredible at taking real
Speaker 2: life and real time challenges and struggles and putting them
Speaker 2: in the show. So the fact that she was getting
Speaker 2: deported was also around the time that there was a lot,
Speaker 2: a lot on the news about ice and deportation, and
Speaker 2: it was you know, it was it was I remember
Speaker 2: it being on the forefront of a lot of people's thoughts.
Speaker 2: So she gets supported. Okay, So then Arizona flits around
Speaker 2: the room offering everyone a cookie, and you don't even
Speaker 2: know to pay attention. Who eats the cookie?
Speaker 1: You do not?
Speaker 2: No, no, you're not paying attention.
Speaker 1: I do remember reading the script in the table read
Speaker 1: and being real sad Jo didn't take.
Speaker 2: That cookie, and I felt the sadness again. She's like, no,
Speaker 2: I'm too nervous. I can't take the cookie. Joe.
Speaker 1: It'll be fun, baby, take the cookie.
Speaker 2: And then of course April looking so just lovely loved
Speaker 2: her costume for that looks very professional. Started the game off.
Speaker 2: Started the games off about the Graceland surge.
Speaker 1: Glad.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of a prototype day. It was like
Speaker 2: the Hunger Games, and then the twenty five proposals and
Speaker 2: then five of them will receive a one million dollar
Speaker 2: grant blah blah blah, and then she wishes everyone luck
Speaker 2: and then introduces as the first candidate, Richard. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: was you know what.
Speaker 1: Meredith and Joe are singing together, and they're kind of
Speaker 1: you know, Joe's a little She's get nervous because Richard's
Speaker 1: does look good. And I remember in real life being like, well,
Speaker 1: just he's gonna get it. Yeah, but also Ken, they
Speaker 1: can figure out that was kick ass. Why isn't that
Speaker 1: pen in every episode?
Speaker 2: Is that pen real?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 2: I don't know if you should find out.
Speaker 1: I'm assuming because I feel like our when we do
Speaker 1: stuff like that, it's it's not something we've completely made up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's basically based on something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's usually based on something that really is up
Speaker 1: and coming in some medical Yeah.
Speaker 2: So what's happening backstage that we don't know about in
Speaker 2: the front as we're eating our cookies and watching Richard
Speaker 2: and being worried that he's gonna win. Is that Jackson
Speaker 2: and Catherine are bickering. Which watching it, I was like,
Speaker 2: what are they wired? I know, I can remember either, Yeah,
Speaker 2: what happening? And then something about a woman named Rebecca
Speaker 2: Froyd and then how he's messed up and I'm like, wait,
Speaker 2: what's happening. Yeah, he does something and now she's got
Speaker 2: to clean it up and I don't know what it
Speaker 2: is yet. And then because I haven't watched a long time,
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm intrigued. Oh yeah, yeah, I was in.
Speaker 2: I Yeah, I was in the whole time.
Speaker 1: I was in, from the the minute I was had
Speaker 1: the mouse, I was in.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I do.
Speaker 1: I like it when there's a little competition on Grays Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like it, you know, like just you know, just
Speaker 1: naturally amongst the characters.
Speaker 2: I think it adds some spice to it.
Speaker 1: I wrote, Okay, so then we sort of cut to you.
Speaker 2: Be you being paged, being paged. Yeah, that's so. Now
Speaker 2: you go to me coming around the corner. Yeah, seemingly
Speaker 2: nine to one one, which I've helped this couple with
Speaker 2: their babies, so clearly I must think that something's very wrong.
Speaker 2: Come around the corner, and then they hit me with
Speaker 2: they need those cookies back. Yeah. I cannot give them
Speaker 2: those cookies back. So they cooked it with like, uh,
Speaker 2: they made the cookies.
Speaker 1: With the cannabis peanut butter.
Speaker 2: Those are some pot cookies. Those are some pot cookies.
Speaker 2: I laughed out loud at.
Speaker 1: Your weird slow walk back into the auditorium where I'm like,
Speaker 1: she's already a little high and she doesn't know.
Speaker 2: How to deal with this.
Speaker 1: I literally put like I was laughing so hard it
Speaker 1: made me giggle.
Speaker 2: It's like this really awkward walk. And this is what
Speaker 2: I love about episodes like this.
Speaker 1: We do with so many serious episodes on Grace for
Speaker 1: good reason, right, Like we're dealing with life and death
Speaker 1: and relationships and stuff. When we get to play like
Speaker 1: this and do some of this physical comedy that we
Speaker 1: get to do this episode or you guys get to
Speaker 1: do it's so fun Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah it is. It is. And also certain people
Speaker 2: do sort of like know how to do that right,
Speaker 2: Like are kind of great with that. I mean some
Speaker 2: of the care some of the actors are like great
Speaker 2: with everything right, but some of us, like we've got
Speaker 2: different instruments, We've got different tools, ryeah. And so some
Speaker 2: are so good, like you bring up a you bring
Speaker 2: up a sad scene and they are fucking aces. They're
Speaker 2: like yeah, and everyone else is like damn, how'd you
Speaker 2: do that? Right? But then there's like funny ones, and
Speaker 2: so everybody gets to sort of sort of flex their
Speaker 2: talents in different ways. But anyways, so so, yes, I
Speaker 2: remember sliding into there, and I also remember standing there
Speaker 2: and being like, how do I get their attention?
Speaker 1: Yes, So I want to talk about this little moment
Speaker 1: with Arizona when she tells Joe and Meredith for the
Speaker 1: first time, because I think watching it back, because I
Speaker 1: know this, I think that you can tell that Ellen
Speaker 1: and I are really trying very hard not to laugh
Speaker 1: because you remember filming that scene. It was so funny
Speaker 1: that we were laughing. Just that little moment the three
Speaker 1: of us were laughing over and over, and I can tell, like,
Speaker 1: I mean, we do a good job of playing the moment,
Speaker 1: but I know underneath the real situation was that we really.
Speaker 2: Wanted to pee your pants.
Speaker 1: When you're like Ohsa and we're like who eight the cookies?
Speaker 1: And then they do the scan around the room like.
Speaker 2: Question is who didn't? Yeah, you're like who didn't?
Speaker 1: And then and then my actually I didn't remember this
Speaker 1: moment either. When they cut to Jackson and Jackson's like
Speaker 1: vagina's Vaginas I came out of this one, I was like, damn, Julie,
Speaker 1: you're so good at writing.
Speaker 2: This is so funny. Yeah, yeah, that was really funny.
Speaker 2: I love Yeah, I loved that too.
Speaker 1: And then I loved the decision in the show where
Speaker 1: they're like, uh, Meredith, I think it's it's Meredith that
Speaker 1: gets to Guz asks who who ate the cookies? And
Speaker 1: there's rat poison. I do think it's funny that we
Speaker 1: went with rat poison, yeah over something else. And then
Speaker 1: you forget to raise your hand and I nudg you.
Speaker 1: I remember finding that moment really funny to film too.
Speaker 2: That was funny too, Yeah, because I because yeah, well
Speaker 2: I think and I think that that was actually dare
Speaker 2: I say my own choice? Yes, I think I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna yeah, raise my hand, a little improvisation situation,
Speaker 2: and then you and then it was your idea to
Speaker 2: nudge me, and I was like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: yeah yeah yeah. So then we end up having the
Speaker 2: meeting backstage. Yes, by the way, I don't even know what.
Speaker 1: That room is, and I don't know if we've ever
Speaker 1: filmed in that room. Since I have no idea what
Speaker 1: that room is. Hm, I feel like it was created.
Speaker 1: I'm probably wrong, and then I'll get messages on this.
Speaker 1: But listen, I'm rewatching this too. My memory is not
Speaker 1: so great. This is years ago. I think that little
Speaker 1: side room was made. I just don't remember ever seeing
Speaker 1: it again.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, sometimes they come up with these spaces and
Speaker 2: we never seen that. We've never seen him before, we've
Speaker 2: never seen him since. Okay, So then she comes back
Speaker 2: and she says that what's obvious, which is that none
Speaker 2: of us, whoever has had any of these cookies cannot
Speaker 2: be a doctor today. So then we all sort of
Speaker 2: then hair off. So it's de Luca, Maggie and I
Speaker 2: because Maggie wanders off and I'm like, I gotta get her.
Speaker 2: Pairs runs off.
Speaker 1: Okay, but I think we need to talk about something
Speaker 1: because within that scene, there was like a panning across
Speaker 1: of everybody, right, and everyone started.
Speaker 2: To like you could see the effects right.
Speaker 1: Like you know Andrew's comatoes, there's I think Jackson sniffs
Speaker 1: a pillow and puts it down, and a conversation started
Speaker 1: of what being high like that physically feels like an
Speaker 1: is and do you remember this whole conversation like you're
Speaker 1: not on psychedelics, you're because some of us, initially I
Speaker 1: think we're taking it too far where we were almost
Speaker 1: like we were, you know, tripping.
Speaker 2: Balls Yep, definitely on LSD.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, it was more of an LSD like you're
Speaker 1: a Woodstock kind of situation. And so we had we
Speaker 1: had we had a drug conversation like, yeah.
Speaker 2: They were one head band and a pair of bell
Speaker 2: bottoms away from trip and balls on a stage in Woodstock. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 2: so there was.
Speaker 1: A conversation about like, hey, this isn't this isn't LSD.
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you remember that? And then I think it
Speaker 2: was sort of right sized, right, everybody went, oh, right, okay,
Speaker 2: and then yeah, because we also had I remember also
Speaker 2: that every actor had a different way of doing it.
Speaker 2: But I remember one actor really had created their timeline
Speaker 2: so they like, on a scale of one to ten
Speaker 2: how high they were going to be. Oh that's great.
Speaker 2: So every time we got to that scene, they were like, oh,
Speaker 2: I'm I'm at a four here. Oh that's smart, because
Speaker 2: if you don't know this, which maybe you don't, we
Speaker 2: don't shoot the scenes in order, so we jump around
Speaker 2: all the different scenes, and so to know how high
Speaker 2: or not high you were, they had like put down
Speaker 2: where they were in their character's highness, which I completely stole.
Speaker 2: I stole that and also did my own scale of
Speaker 2: one to ten for all the scenes, because again, how
Speaker 2: can you remember if you're bopping around? Yes, and I do.
Speaker 1: I remember was we take all your phones in those scenes,
Speaker 1: And I remember Maggie has this line this like you
Speaker 1: look so pretty, you look like a cartoon, and trying
Speaker 1: not to laugh every time she said it to me
Speaker 1: because it was just so she I mean.
Speaker 2: Kelly's so funny.
Speaker 1: I think you just brought that up to bring up
Speaker 1: up pretty you are again, And it was hard being
Speaker 1: that pretty that day I can imagine it was No.
Speaker 1: I thought that line was very funny, and yeah, it
Speaker 1: was difficult being that gorgeous. I know, I did laugh
Speaker 1: at the walk Pierce runs off, Andrew's just floating around
Speaker 1: the hospital and that's he's stroking the walls. And the
Speaker 1: next scene, oh oh.
Speaker 2: Oh, we missed it out.
Speaker 1: So then it cuts to this whole other storyline that
Speaker 1: I totally forgot about.
Speaker 2: It the Foster Ohen Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, this is
Speaker 2: where it goes.
Speaker 1: Yes, we go off and then it goes to and
Speaker 1: then I was trying to remember, are they together, like
Speaker 1: I was trying to figure out.
Speaker 2: I thought, that's Owen married. Yeah, and then I also,
Speaker 2: I'm just being honest. I also thought, oh, man, because
Speaker 2: lord knows, it's happened to me a million times. When
Speaker 2: you when you're the other storyline, like when there's definitely
Speaker 2: a storyline that's got like all the bells and whistles
Speaker 2: and stars and stress and pizzazz, and then you're in
Speaker 2: the storyline that's like the b storyline. Yeah, you're you
Speaker 2: have a cold at home. Yeah, And so we go
Speaker 2: to Owen finding out that he's gonna get a baby. Well,
Speaker 2: he's gonna get a foster child, and it's not going
Speaker 2: to be a child.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a baby. Yes, it's gonna be our baby.
Speaker 1: I do this as an actor on this show. I
Speaker 1: also like to visually snoop around people's houses, like what
Speaker 1: kind of stuff, you know, because I'm like, Owen's house
Speaker 1: to me, looked good and I was like, you know what, maybe.
Speaker 2: Joe needs a little bookshelf like that.
Speaker 1: You know. At the time, she was in the loft too,
Speaker 1: I think, so I was like, Wow, he's got he's
Speaker 1: got a good setup there at the Owen household.
Speaker 2: Yep. So then he calls Amelia and says, can you
Speaker 2: help me out? And she seems pretty willing. Meanwhile, this
Speaker 2: is a little bit where logic runs out the door,
Speaker 2: because don't they like need all hands on deck with
Speaker 2: all those doctors. Shouldn't she have stayed? They shouldn't Owe
Speaker 2: actually have been called in. Owen should have been.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they absolutely should have been called in.
Speaker 2: They got no doctors.
Speaker 1: They don't have no doctors, no, no one, no high
Speaker 1: doctors exactly right.
Speaker 2: But she comes in and it's funny.
Speaker 1: I could not figure out if they were together or not,
Speaker 1: because uh, Katerina and Kevin have such really they have
Speaker 1: really good chemistry on camera, and the only way I
Speaker 1: could figure out if they were married is is I
Speaker 1: looked for their ring fingers. I was like, wait, are like,
Speaker 1: what's going on? And then I had totally also forgotten
Speaker 1: that they basically fostered a baby together, and I think
Speaker 1: he ends up adopting the baby.
Speaker 2: Does he have a child? Now?
Speaker 1: I don't know he does, but like you know, Grays,
Speaker 1: you know, it's like hard for me to remember these
Speaker 1: things anyway, So it's it does set up that storyline,
Speaker 1: and then we do cut back and to the hospital.
Speaker 1: Andrew is stroking the the wall, Maggie is running.
Speaker 2: And then when Maggie tells Arizona that she's never ever
Speaker 2: been high before and that she's not she doesn't make
Speaker 2: a choice when she gets drunk, so she thinks that
Speaker 2: she needs to be alone. Arizona's like, you cannot leave
Speaker 2: me alone. I need to be with someone, and is
Speaker 2: that when you bring it.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's not the moment, but you end up you
Speaker 1: do end up bringing them into that room.
Speaker 2: I forget what that room is. No, I think we
Speaker 2: go into a different room at that point. But then
Speaker 2: so before Amelia goes to Owen's, she goes into her
Speaker 2: lab and she finds Alex, and Alex is very apparently hot.
Speaker 1: Reveal of Alex in that like I put weird science
Speaker 1: in my notes.
Speaker 2: I don't even know what it is.
Speaker 1: It looked like in Back to the Future when Doc
Speaker 1: is wearing that thing on his head.
Speaker 2: That's what it reminded me of. It cracked me up
Speaker 2: because I don't.
Speaker 1: Think Alex appears in the big auditorium scene, or at
Speaker 1: least we don't see him, and so it's just revealed.
Speaker 1: Of course at some point he's had his hands in
Speaker 1: that cookie jar. Oh yeah, it's perfect Alex Karev. And
Speaker 1: it's a very funny reveal. And so he's he gets
Speaker 1: evacuated from the hospital and he's then you know, that's
Speaker 1: where that storyline is coming with me, is coming with me.
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, Jackson and Catherine are back, and then it cuts
Speaker 2: back and I wrote down thirteen women. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so this this storyline, even though they're high, these
Speaker 1: two together are sort of working through the reveal and
Speaker 1: truth of this that I think it was a great
Speaker 1: storyline because we'll talk.
Speaker 2: About this at some point.
Speaker 1: But Katherine, it kind of explains the position she was
Speaker 1: in and that times have changed, and she you know.
Speaker 2: Well because well at this point, I think she's really
Speaker 2: just saying, listen, there's stuff you didn't know. Now you're
Speaker 2: going to have to be a big boy and no,
Speaker 2: and I'm going to tell you what happened. And he's
Speaker 2: all full of judgment and like this is so bad,
Speaker 2: how could you do this? It starts to set up that, yeah,
Speaker 2: this is so bad, and they're thirteen women and it's
Speaker 2: it's all very much. It seems like it's very directionally
Speaker 2: going at Catherine like she's done something wrong. Meanwhile, they
Speaker 2: don't know that April is there, and she overhears the
Speaker 2: whole conversation. Yeah, she does that creepy, little like weird
Speaker 2: slide out at the end by the door.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so now she's ever heard this. Now, now
Speaker 2: you find out that it affects the whole hospital. Yes, yeah.
Speaker 2: So Meredith is like, we're done. We're canceling surgeries, all
Speaker 2: all the surgeries that are elective or can be postponed.
Speaker 2: We're cut, we're cutting. And then she sees the interns
Speaker 2: and this was the part where I was actually a
Speaker 2: bit like I had to question myself.
Speaker 1: I want to talk about this moment too, because this
Speaker 1: is a moment where I'm talking to the interns, just
Speaker 1: sort of with Meredith, and first off, I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: Blue Life, Blue Scrubs, Like it brought me back a
Speaker 1: little bit. I was like, oh, And it was also
Speaker 1: a little bit where we got to play a little
Speaker 1: a little comedy and a little like improvvness with the
Speaker 1: playfulness of Joe being in charge to the interns. I
Speaker 1: haven't seen that intern class in a long time, so
Speaker 1: I used to like see all those faces. Yeah, but yeah,
Speaker 1: so that in that moment, it gets revealed, right that
Speaker 1: one of the one of the one of the guys
Speaker 1: is lying.
Speaker 2: No, it's not revealed though, he just they all deny
Speaker 2: it and you and if you were really paying attention,
Speaker 2: you would remember that Vic was there and he did
Speaker 2: have a cookie, but it wasn't like featured, so it
Speaker 2: wasn't like he's lying. He's lying. He's lying.
Speaker 1: Well, isn't there like a punch in on him? Maybe
Speaker 1: in that moment maybe, But my point is I missed it.
Speaker 1: I think there's a little punchin on him that's like
Speaker 1: a wink wink, Remember those guys a little bell a liar.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's yeah, he seems a little sparmy. Okay.
Speaker 2: So then something happens that I forgot that I think
Speaker 2: is such a genius Julie Wong touch, which is that
Speaker 2: Meredith gets a page that's nine to one one, so
Speaker 2: she from Bailey. So she goes to ba Bailey's o
Speaker 2: R and you forgot that Bailey had a cookie and
Speaker 2: she's like, I'm feeling a little dizzy and like yes, and.
Speaker 1: You're like, not Bailey, Yes, and shout out to our
Speaker 1: director because that like that you I don't know what
Speaker 1: that camera thing is the it's also stupid where the
Speaker 1: background's moving but you're a still and it really does
Speaker 1: feel trippy. Loved all of that in the whole episode
Speaker 1: because it's used multiple times and it does disorientate your
Speaker 1: disorient tid disoriented. And and by the way, this is
Speaker 1: the I feel like, this is the first moment that
Speaker 1: we see Levi and Jake.
Speaker 2: Brella looks so young and he's got his glasses on.
Speaker 1: The glasses on so cute. But yes, she can't she's tripping.
Speaker 1: She's tripping the balls.
Speaker 2: So Meredith is like, don't worry, I got you. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna take this over because it's already started, so we
Speaker 2: can't push this off. And then while she's saying, are
Speaker 2: you sure I got you? Sure you got you, she
Speaker 2: closes the door on Meredith's hand. On the hand, there's
Speaker 2: a hand.
Speaker 1: Now Meredith can't and by the way, that is you
Speaker 1: cannot squish Meredith Gray's hand. No, that's a dicey situation.
Speaker 1: Wait why oh, just Jake, because it's Meredith great.
Speaker 2: Are he can't hurt her? We've hurt her a lot.
Speaker 1: We've hurt her a lot, but like we have her,
Speaker 1: but she needs the hands are important.
Speaker 2: The show has almost drowned her. It is almost It's true.
Speaker 2: It's true. Yes, but you taking issue with the hand
Speaker 2: in the door. The door, the hand in the door.
Speaker 2: It frightened me, jump scare for me. When I was watching,
Speaker 2: I was not okay. So she's not going to be
Speaker 2: able to do this surgery. So who is Joe Wilson?
Speaker 2: Who's going to do this surgery? Joe Wilson? And do
Speaker 2: you know what I got to get that?
Speaker 1: I got to get them a little behind the scenes
Speaker 1: about this because there was and still sort of is
Speaker 1: a running joke that all Joe ever did in any
Speaker 1: surgery was suction.
Speaker 2: That was a joke that happened to a lot of people.
Speaker 2: There were a lot of people who were just suctioners.
Speaker 1: We and so and so this was a moment that I,
Speaker 1: I don't know, Jessin Williams loves to give me the
Speaker 1: little pokey bokes about the I only do a suction.
Speaker 1: This was a moment where it was Joe's time to shine. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I remember is an actor being like, hell, yeah, Joe,
Speaker 1: you get your.
Speaker 2: Butt in there.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's not how she felt. She was like,
Speaker 1: you get a scalpel. She was, yeah, you get a
Speaker 1: scalpel and you go in. So I was very excited.
Speaker 2: Because you're a real doctor. I love that. And that's
Speaker 2: the bad assery. Yeah, and when you're in light blue
Speaker 2: scrubs like those moments, that's real. That's almost like going
Speaker 2: back to season one, right, Yeah, yeah, I love that.
Speaker 2: So just as an actor, it's like, yes, no suction.
Speaker 2: So then I mean, again, I give them all the
Speaker 2: love in the world, but just because I don't know,
Speaker 2: maybe we're not going to be here for twelve hours. Uh,
Speaker 2: Then all the Amelia and Alex stuff is happening at
Speaker 2: Owen's house and they're cleaning up the house and.
Speaker 1: I know, but you know what, I did love all
Speaker 1: those scenes, even though it was he did too, but
Speaker 1: it was so funny.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we we We're back there.
Speaker 1: Alex is scoffing all of the snacks and cracking cracking
Speaker 1: me up.
Speaker 2: And I love that, like I love that.
Speaker 1: It's him because of course he's the only character that's
Speaker 1: going to be like and he literally says, you are
Speaker 1: so screwed right now. He's he's the opposite of Amelia.
Speaker 2: He's not you got this. He's like, you don't got this.
Speaker 2: He's like, you absolutely don't got this.
Speaker 1: And he's laughing and there's like chips coming out of
Speaker 1: his mouth, and it's just you needed Alex there for
Speaker 1: that moment for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, very funny, Julie. But there's something about his character
Speaker 2: where even though he's saying you don't got this, you
Speaker 2: still know you do because he's not freaking out. He's
Speaker 2: kind of like always got this. Like there's a lightness
Speaker 2: to like he's chuckling at you, which makes you feel
Speaker 2: like it can't be that bad. He's just kind of laughing.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be okay. I think I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, like, I don't I think he really thinks
Speaker 1: he's probably a little bit screwed.
Speaker 2: But okay, so he tells me he screwed that we
Speaker 2: go back to the skills lap.
Speaker 1: And you I put down in my notes Arizona is
Speaker 1: guarding a weed prison. Yes, that's what that room feels
Speaker 1: like to me. Where you guys were on the couch.
Speaker 2: He's okay.
Speaker 1: So Andrew's like, he's on the he's on the floor,
Speaker 1: and he's I forget Janine's character's name, Janny Mason. I
Speaker 1: just loved Janine so much. She was so great. She
Speaker 1: was so she only because she got a big job.
Speaker 2: She got like some big show from there, right she did.
Speaker 1: She got roswell, she got a fancy show, right right,
Speaker 1: and of course she got it because she's fantastic. And
Speaker 1: just even seeing a glimpse of her face on the
Speaker 1: laying next to de Luca, I was like.
Speaker 2: Sam Bellow. She played doctor sam Bello.
Speaker 1: That's right, yeah, sam Bello, she played sam Bello. Seeing
Speaker 1: her gorgeous.
Speaker 2: Face, yeah, the nicest actress.
Speaker 1: It made me feel like Andrew, I was like, you
Speaker 1: know what, I'm heartbroken too that we we lost her.
Speaker 1: But this scene is so funny between you guys. Do
Speaker 1: you remember filming this because she's banging on about cheese
Speaker 1: and you're talking about Karina.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah that's what. That's the room where
Speaker 2: I felt like we were the longest, at least filming
Speaker 2: the longest.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: She starts talking about cheese and then I'm on the couch.
Speaker 2: I remember it was a leather couch and it was
Speaker 2: squeak every time. I was a squeaky Yes, it just
Speaker 2: makes it. You got to watch that for sound, yeah
Speaker 2: and bow and sound would be like apshaw, stop moving.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah yeah, so I was very still yeah yeah,
Speaker 2: which kind of worked.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Do you remember finding it hard to get through that
Speaker 1: scene because she's like Swiss?
Speaker 2: Yes, we had I would have last for each other.
Speaker 2: But also we had no prompts. It was like none
Speaker 2: of our lines. Normally, in a conversation, your line makes
Speaker 2: sense because of what the other character said right before you,
Speaker 2: but in this situation, all of our lines were We
Speaker 2: were just having conversations with ourselves. Yeah, and then they
Speaker 2: were but then there was like someone else that was talking,
Speaker 2: like interjecting. Totally nonlinear to what you were saying. And
Speaker 2: so I found this kind of interesting because you know,
Speaker 2: I always found Arizona to be so confident, Like you
Speaker 2: didn't see her question herself a lot, Like she was
Speaker 2: always very from being lesbianic to like never having questioned
Speaker 2: her sexuality as a kid, which is like who does that?
Speaker 2: That's a superhero? Like just always straight straight, well not straight,
Speaker 2: but very straight about her ideas, like knowing exactly who
Speaker 2: she was and what she was, and so you don't
Speaker 2: see a lot of you don't see her insecurities so much,
Speaker 2: you don't see her questioning herself so much, And so
Speaker 2: I thought it was kind of interesting that there she
Speaker 2: was talking about whether or not she was going too
Speaker 2: fast with Karina, but then she starts talking about having
Speaker 2: been ghosted, and then she talks about having been left
Speaker 2: and then and so you have like this like triple
Speaker 2: packed punch of Arizona going huh. I heard her saying,
Speaker 2: am I not good enough? Right? Like? Am I not?
Speaker 2: Am I not someone that people stay for?
Speaker 1: Do you remember in this episode when you're playing these scenes,
Speaker 1: do you remember? Because I thought the episode was going
Speaker 1: to end with you breaking up with Karina, and so
Speaker 1: I was quite surprised. We can talk about this at
Speaker 1: the end. Do you remember the filming this, whether you
Speaker 1: feel like Arizona was going to you felt like it
Speaker 1: was going to be starting to lean out of the
Speaker 1: relationship as opposed to lean in.
Speaker 2: I think that maybe the reason that you might have
Speaker 2: thought that was because she had the slip where she
Speaker 2: was talking about Calie.
Speaker 1: She does later, yes, but even saying like we're moving
Speaker 1: too fast?
Speaker 2: Am I moving too fast?
Speaker 1: I don't know, I kind of okay, No, I mean
Speaker 1: you player, you tell me.
Speaker 2: I wish that they had had more scenes where you
Speaker 2: saw what they like so much about each other, because
Speaker 2: you really just had to guess, like, you know, it
Speaker 2: worked for us to be together, and we had that
Speaker 2: very funny first scene where we're like, yeah, making out,
Speaker 2: But it wasn't like you didn't see us like becoming
Speaker 2: friends too, Like you didn't see us becoming like deepening
Speaker 2: the relationship and figuring out what we liked so much
Speaker 2: Buddy to Anyways, Yes, she's talking about cheese and then
Speaker 2: it goes back.
Speaker 1: To Bailey by which, yes, they're so funny. I love you,
Speaker 1: don't You don't see these two characters together very much.
Speaker 1: Both of them say they've never done pop before, and
Speaker 1: and it just starts to set up this amazing twosome
Speaker 1: that we again don't see much and uh and and
Speaker 1: and where it goes from there, But it's the beginning
Speaker 1: really of those two.
Speaker 2: In another we Jail Another where April starts it off
Speaker 2: with I know something I heard something that I shouldn't
Speaker 2: have heard and end of an era.
Speaker 1: At the end of a bad, bad era, and you're like, oh, You're.
Speaker 2: Like, well, I guess she wasn't going to keep that
Speaker 2: secret for sure.
Speaker 1: Well you're kind of like you're kind of wondering, like
Speaker 1: how what you know? Because she's high, Like it is
Speaker 1: intriguing because you're like, what has she heard? How she
Speaker 1: interpreted it? Is she gonna spill all the beans?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: And to Bailey, yeah yeah, of all people, who's just
Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, she's she's just I don't know, I
Speaker 2: can't even come up with a right word for what
Speaker 2: Bailey is, but she's definitely like she just seems like
Speaker 2: she's the one. She's like the I want to say
Speaker 2: that oracle. It's not the oracle she's like, but she's
Speaker 2: like the if you wanted to know whether something was
Speaker 2: fair or not, you'd go to Bailey. She seems like
Speaker 2: she's the person who just has all the answers. Yeah,
Speaker 2: she does, and she would figure it out. She'd be
Speaker 2: my phone a friend, you know, like if you call it.
Speaker 1: You have an opportunity to call someone that Bailey can
Speaker 1: also cause her ruckus when she knows yes, and so
Speaker 1: you know that this information is not gonna it's not
Speaker 1: gonna be smooth sailing by any means.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 1: So then cut to Miss Joe Wilson in her surgery. Yep,
Speaker 1: and I wanted to shout out to Linda Kleine, Linda Kohn.
Speaker 2: I say, bring the scans over, and we need to
Speaker 2: talk about Linda Klein. So Linda, and she goes, yes doctor,
Speaker 2: which I love her, love yes doctor.
Speaker 1: Yes, Linda makes me feel so good. So Linda's a
Speaker 1: real surgeon. She's an executive producer on our show. She's
Speaker 1: been here like literally since the beginning of time.
Speaker 2: She was on Niptock before.
Speaker 1: And she is the one that actually during scenes, she
Speaker 1: during the or scenes or any of these medical scenes,
Speaker 1: she comes in. She Corey Grass that she tells us
Speaker 1: what we're doing wrong, What we need to do right
Speaker 1: mostly what we're doing wrong.
Speaker 2: She is the absolutely best. I mean it is the best.
Speaker 2: Talk about like the heartbeat of a show.
Speaker 1: I mean, yes, so she's just bringing scans to me,
Speaker 1: but really that she is the doctor, the real doctor.
Speaker 1: God in the room is Linda Klein. And I did
Speaker 1: get a kick out of her saying yes, doctor, Yes.
Speaker 2: I told I I saw her. And whenever I see her,
Speaker 2: it's like, oh, yes, I'm so happy. Bokey's in the
Speaker 2: room too.
Speaker 1: Bokey is in that surgery too, and Bokey has been
Speaker 1: with us forever.
Speaker 2: Quick quick story, real quick.
Speaker 1: When I very first started the show, how I met
Speaker 1: Bokey is that Shanda Rhimes before I even no maybe
Speaker 1: i'd filmed something, but she sent me to watch a
Speaker 1: real surgery and Bokey was doing that real surgery, open
Speaker 1: heart surgery. And that's the first time I met her.
Speaker 1: She helped me scrub in. She's just doing anything, scrub
Speaker 1: nurse and so h So Bokey's there and Joe and LEVI,
Speaker 1: you know, like they're not friends really yet, I think,
Speaker 1: but but they obviously slept together at this point. But
Speaker 1: it's fun that I love it when they're own surgery
Speaker 1: is together. Then it's backed to Jackson and MoMA Avery.
Speaker 2: Yep, and they're going to get into it. They're going
Speaker 2: to get into it because he's freaking out and he's
Speaker 2: not understanding why his mom is so calm because it's
Speaker 2: all new information to him. So then they kind of
Speaker 2: get into the whole thing about reminding us that they're
Speaker 2: actually both high too, so they are both high while
Speaker 2: this guy saying very big thing.
Speaker 1: These two are the most I think these two are
Speaker 1: the most grounded high for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, for sure. Then we're back because then we're back.
Speaker 1: To Owen and uh and Alex Kreb is not a
Speaker 1: grounded high Alex Kreb has made a chip baby.
Speaker 2: Oh man, I remember when the table read these moments
Speaker 2: with Alex.
Speaker 1: Being high and just thinking it was so hysterical because
Speaker 1: then the baby comes in and Alex pretends he's there,
Speaker 1: he's supposed to be in the back room, but it
Speaker 1: smells like Owen or something smells too much like oh.
Speaker 2: Yes, guess yes, but wait, also just to go back
Speaker 2: because I actually thought that like wow, because there's things
Speaker 2: that are in you know, headlines right now that are
Speaker 2: quite that touched on the same topic. But I actually
Speaker 2: took I took a screenshot.
Speaker 1: Of it, so I was like, you know what, Oh,
Speaker 1: let me see what is it?
Speaker 2: Well, no, it's the words to the scene because when
Speaker 2: Jackson really gives Catherine a hard time and says like,
Speaker 2: what the heck, like, you don't get to do that?
Speaker 2: Why did you get why did you keep this a secret?
Speaker 2: And she come she starts to come back at him
Speaker 2: because she realizes something, and she says to him, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: you do not get to do that. You do not
Speaker 2: get to stand there in judgment of me thirty years ago,
Speaker 2: getting harassed at work, getting groped at work wasn't something
Speaker 2: we could protest. It was something we had to take
Speaker 2: with our morning coffee. It was part of the job.
Speaker 2: And if we made a noise, if we fussed, we
Speaker 2: were told we were overreacting, and more often than not,
Speaker 2: we lost the job and our reputation along with it.
Speaker 2: I was not then who I am now. I didn't
Speaker 2: have the voice then that I have now. I had choices.
Speaker 2: I could stand there and let your grandfather fire those
Speaker 2: women and drag them through the mud, or I could
Speaker 2: make sure they got some money a leg to stand
Speaker 2: on a path to move forward. I'm not ashamed of myself, Jackson,
Speaker 2: but I am ashamed of what your grandfather did. And
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry that now you have to carry that
Speaker 2: burden along with me. Did you pull up the script?
Speaker 2: Did you go back and google the script in your phone?
Speaker 2: I to, well, when I was watching it, I had
Speaker 2: the captions on. Oh yeah, and I screenshot every single
Speaker 2: line because I was like, I had to go.
Speaker 1: Back because I was like, oh, good, Julie, so glad
Speaker 1: we went back, Julie.
Speaker 2: Those are such I mean.
Speaker 1: So it just this is what this is what I love,
Speaker 1: love love about Crazy Anatomy so much as these writers
Speaker 1: are so good, and it started so early from episode one,
Speaker 1: and it just has carried on and we are talking
Speaker 1: about season fourteen right now, this episode of season fourteen,
Speaker 1: and it keeps doing it, which is just illuminating the challenge,
Speaker 1: illuminating the hardship and things are not simple, and sexual
Speaker 1: harassment is not simple.
Speaker 2: It is very nuanced, and each situation in which it
Speaker 2: occurs is obviously individual, but how often, no matter, what
Speaker 2: seems to be associated with sexual harassment is that the
Speaker 2: woman did something wrong, that she overreacted, that she you
Speaker 2: know that she did something, and almost always it seems
Speaker 2: like it's the woman that gets blamed. And I mean,
Speaker 2: if you go after listen, if you start looking around
Speaker 2: at everything that anyone's ever done in their life, you're
Speaker 2: likely to find something. Right. But I think that we
Speaker 2: lose sight of the point, which is that all that
Speaker 2: matters is the sexual harassment. In a court of law
Speaker 2: or in a court of public opinion, all the matters
Speaker 2: is the offense. Who the person was or how they
Speaker 2: dealt with it is not the issue. Anyways, I digress. No, No,
Speaker 2: I think it's a great I don't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't want to skip over it, to be honest,
Speaker 1: because I think that one thing that it makes you
Speaker 1: ruminate about is that and this still happens, is this
Speaker 1: is not not you can there's still a feeling that
Speaker 1: you can't speak up for many many reasons and all
Speaker 1: different kinds of environments and jobs and family and all
Speaker 1: the things. And I think that women were have this
Speaker 1: expert level of finding ways to shake it off, laugh
Speaker 1: it off, yeah, make a joke of it, make it
Speaker 1: highte like, however you needed to deal And I think
Speaker 1: that we deal with this in so many episodes on Graze.
Speaker 2: But this speech of hers taking.
Speaker 1: It with your morning coffee, that line is fantastic because
Speaker 1: it feels it for a time and for some people
Speaker 1: it still does.
Speaker 2: It feels like that's just part of life. Just endure it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay, glad we went back. I'm so glad
Speaker 1: you took pictures of that, right that that was probably
Speaker 1: the most important moment of the whole show. But we
Speaker 1: do go back to uh, to Alex Greb and his
Speaker 1: crushed chip baby and the and the baby arriving, and
Speaker 1: then we go to Richard and the weak cookies.
Speaker 2: Yes, and now he's now at least we have another
Speaker 2: responsible doctor. We have someone else, thank god.
Speaker 1: At this point we're like using the janitor for like surgeries.
Speaker 1: We have someone that did not take the wee cookies.
Speaker 1: And then we're dealing with an intern who is high
Speaker 1: doctor Roy and a central.
Speaker 2: Line, yeah, because he responds to he responds.
Speaker 1: To uh, you know, being paged and someone needs a
Speaker 1: central line and he doesn't want to do it. And
Speaker 1: then we get to see Helmum Parker. These are our interns.
Speaker 1: We haven't seen it so long, I mean, how we
Speaker 1: still have the show. But yeah, I knew when we
Speaker 1: were reading this at the table read, I was like,
Speaker 1: this is this is one of those dramas where you know,
Speaker 1: because we tend on the show to you know, not
Speaker 1: everyone makes it.
Speaker 2: It's part of the show always. I mean, it's been
Speaker 2: part of that speech from.
Speaker 1: Day one, like look at the person next to you,
Speaker 1: they may be gone, and so you know that that's
Speaker 1: part of our storytelling. And when we got to that part,
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, this may be the end for
Speaker 1: this doctor.
Speaker 2: I was like, this doctor may be heading in well,
Speaker 2: and it goes from bad to worse, right because you
Speaker 2: know that he's hosed, but now he gets double hosed
Speaker 2: because he ends up running into the part that has
Speaker 2: the scalpel and then and it's pretty bad. Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: And we should say, by the way that like we
Speaker 1: as actors, we are not always aware of who is leaving.
Speaker 1: Sometimes we really do discover these things in the tape read.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, that character's going that actor knows,
Speaker 1: but like we, you know, it's not always discussed with
Speaker 1: all of us and like a huge group meeting. So
Speaker 1: it was still surprising that this is where the storyline
Speaker 1: was going. But as we were reading the table read.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh boy, then it's back to Miss
Speaker 1: Joe Wilson and she's decided that the weber pen is
Speaker 1: going to be used. I think we should talk about
Speaker 1: redly quick because this is the surgery of the episode,
Speaker 1: all of that stuff.
Speaker 2: That you're seeing. It's like, we have this body cat.
Speaker 1: We have this body like a torso basically, and it's
Speaker 1: the middle is cut out. It looks like it's put out,
Speaker 1: and it's almost like a bowl, right, like a rectangle bowl,
Speaker 1: and we shove stuff in there, so that's like a
Speaker 1: lot of plastic guts, and we fill it with blood
Speaker 1: and all the things so that we can suction, and
Speaker 1: we fill it with water. But I believe that's most
Speaker 1: likely what's on the table. There is this this this
Speaker 1: fake mannequin with a a hole in the middle. Yeah,
Speaker 1: to make this all happen. But she comes up with
Speaker 1: this great plan. She can use the weber pen so
Speaker 1: that she doesn't maybe have to take out all of
Speaker 1: the all of the organ and find where the cancer ends.
Speaker 1: And uh and Levi assent on his way. But there's
Speaker 1: also that back and forth with Meredith of like Joe
Speaker 1: desperately wanting the answer and Meredith knows best. She knows
Speaker 1: that Joe needs to figure this out by herself. She
Speaker 1: already knows the answer, but she she needs to know it.
Speaker 1: Then we go to the intern and I.
Speaker 2: Think you need to talk. I think you I'm gonna
Speaker 2: hit it to you.
Speaker 1: How do we squirt blood on people along Gray's Nani
Speaker 1: Jessica Capsuaw, what what is the way that we do that?
Speaker 1: Because we do it all the time. Well, you mean,
Speaker 1: like the technicality, like, let's let them know, like how
Speaker 1: we make that happen on our show.
Speaker 2: Blood gets squirted all over God, And it's actually very
Speaker 2: like technically, it's very very technical. They're like little balloons
Speaker 2: of blood and they are like pellets or packets of blood,
Speaker 2: and then when you perforate them, blood explodes because they've
Speaker 2: got a little well, if there's someone standing off to
Speaker 2: the side with a little air hose and they're like
Speaker 2: make it, they're pumping it to make the blood squirt. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: so yeah, that's how it goes up a little tube
Speaker 2: and it can as much or as little as you want.
Speaker 2: But sometimes and sometimes when we're doing it, it doesn't work,
Speaker 2: and we have often tiles. Sometimes we have top.
Speaker 1: Issues and we're waiting for an explosion of blood and things.
Speaker 2: Go wrong and that's the show business, baby, that's exactly right,
Speaker 2: and what and the show must what go on? The
Speaker 2: show must go on, all right. So then it goes
Speaker 2: back to my weed prison, where Andrew is still hallucinating
Speaker 2: and he's starting to see his girlfriend Sam and crying.
Speaker 2: That broke my heart when he was crying. Oh, I know,
Speaker 2: I hate that. Maggie is now on the dissection table
Speaker 2: where the first and only time you've ever seen this thing,
Speaker 2: but she's touching it the first time though I don't
Speaker 2: seen it before. I don't.
Speaker 1: I think it may have been introduced in a different episode.
Speaker 1: Maybe you tell us, guys, you tell us. But it
Speaker 1: was a great use of that table.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and organs are showing up and then they're
Speaker 2: going away, and she's touching it and she's manipulating it.
Speaker 2: And then Arizona's laying there on the thing and the
Speaker 2: couch again and she's talking about how with Karina it
Speaker 2: feels right, and then she brings up Calli's name by accident,
Speaker 2: and then Arizona wonders why she said that. But then
Speaker 2: you plant that, like you know, there's still that part
Speaker 2: of her life, and then she talks about how they.
Speaker 1: Drive her crazy and bid, yeah, I love that Arizona
Speaker 1: is just spilling it because it is not an Arizona.
Speaker 2: You guys are not close friends. She's not a friend
Speaker 2: of Arizona. Nope, nope, but she just she says it all.
Speaker 2: But that's the this is the sad part when she
Speaker 2: says when Arizona says, eventually everyone leaves her, and I
Speaker 2: was like, I remember thinking back then that I didn't
Speaker 2: know that my character felt that way.
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, so, oh, I know that's
Speaker 1: hard when you get those scripts and you're like, wait, yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel that way.
Speaker 2: That sucks. Yeah, but that's but that's when she realizes
Speaker 2: the why she's holding onto Krina so tight. Right, She's like,
Speaker 2: oh my gosh, I can't let her go. I'm letting
Speaker 2: this go so fast because I don't want to lose her.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you had that little Freudian slip of CALLI baby,
Speaker 1: I know, I know, it's all I mean, listen, this
Speaker 1: is what we're talking about. This is when you know,
Speaker 1: like you're wondering, is this ship gonna be a little
Speaker 1: in between me? Or is it gonna set sail and
Speaker 1: the little Cali slip was like, hmmm, this feels between
Speaker 1: me between sexy sees.
Speaker 2: I mean, as you said earlier, I think that they
Speaker 2: actually could have gone the distance. I think that they
Speaker 2: could have been a compelling couple. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's something else happening in this scene.
Speaker 2: Maggie does lose the liver. Yeah, she finds that. She's like,
Speaker 2: it's gone, and it's that's so funny. Okay, So I
Speaker 2: think that you know, listen, you can't know what you
Speaker 2: haven't learned yet. And this is our first rewatch, so
Speaker 2: we had no idea how long it would take us
Speaker 2: to talk about this, that and the other. But here
Speaker 2: we are at a normal episode marker for our show,
Speaker 2: and we still got a lot to talk about. And
Speaker 2: I don't want to rush it. I don't want to
Speaker 2: rush it. So I'm feeling like, maybe we push this
Speaker 2: and we do a whole other episode that finishes this rewatch.
Speaker 2: What do you think?
Speaker 1: I think we do that because I don't want to.
Speaker 1: I I'm so excited about this. I feel like the
Speaker 1: crew are so excited about this and this this episode
Speaker 1: is jam packed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and by the way, since this is our first one,
Speaker 2: we may hear from you all. Hey, guess what. We
Speaker 2: actually want you to speed it up and we want
Speaker 2: to hear about it in one hour. That's great. We
Speaker 2: will have learned well for this one. Let's call this
Speaker 2: the end of the episode.