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Speaker 1: Call It what It Is with Jessica Capshaw and Camille Luddington,

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Speaker 1: an iHeartRadio podcast. Hello, Hello, Hello, Hello, Call It crew,

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Speaker 1: and welcome to our first call it a rewatch.

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Speaker 2: Oh. I like the way that sounded it does. I

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Speaker 2: like new things. I like new things.

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Speaker 1: We've I mean, this is what twenty twenty fially you

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Speaker 1: bringing you guys. You're welcome new things, asking you shall receive.

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Speaker 2: I know, gosh, it was I gotta say this, really,

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Speaker 2: this really took me back. This was really fun, literally

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Speaker 2: and figuratively. I in the weirdest way. I would say

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Speaker 2: it was the thing that I didn't know that I wanted.

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Speaker 2: Because you know, people do ask me quite often do

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Speaker 2: you watch the show when you're on it? And also

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Speaker 2: like do you still watch the show or do you

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Speaker 2: know how does the show affect your life? And I

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Speaker 2: talk so much about having been a fan of the show,

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Speaker 2: But that was when I wasn't on it, and then

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Speaker 2: I got on it, and then I definitely did watch

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Speaker 2: probably the first twenty five to fifty episodes that I

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Speaker 2: was on, I probably watched.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you feel like you lived it, like

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Speaker 1: you're I don't need to watch it, like I've heard

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Speaker 1: it in the table read I lived it, and now

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Speaker 1: you know you're moving on in the story.

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Speaker 2: But the first twenty five to fifty I was checking

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Speaker 2: my work. Evidently after that first quit long, you just

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Speaker 2: need to check my work, Yeah, yeah, yeah, or or

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Speaker 2: maybe I just yeah. I don't know, but I definitely

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Speaker 2: did transition out of watching it every week, and so

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Speaker 2: then I think I would just watch a couple maybe

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Speaker 2: during the season. And now here we are being asked

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Speaker 2: to rewatch. And I have to say that the first

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Speaker 2: thing that I thought was this is a really good show.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, should we talk about Okay, let's talk about what

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Speaker 1: episode we is? Our first recap episode. Well, it was

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Speaker 1: the People's choice. It's the people's choice. We threw it

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Speaker 1: out to the crew. We're like, what do you want

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Speaker 1: us to do first? And overwhelmingly, yeah, overwhelmingly.

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Speaker 2: It was a wed episode. It was the weed cookies.

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Speaker 1: It was the weed cookie episode, which was not surprising.

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Speaker 1: And what's funny is I thought to myself, what do

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Speaker 1: I actually remember storyline about that? I mean, I remember,

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Speaker 1: like some people ate the wee cookies, but I watching

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Speaker 1: it back, it was like a fresh episode to me.

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Speaker 2: Well, it was also we made it five six years ago,

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Speaker 2: I heart said to me.

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Speaker 1: When I got on this call, They're like, you know

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Speaker 1: that episode was six years ago. I was like, what,

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Speaker 1: no wonder, I look young and fresh.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so let's be honest. When we had a very

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Speaker 2: very brief chat before we got to sat down to record,

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Speaker 2: and I said to Kamilla a lot of things that

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Speaker 2: we'll talk about, but one of the things I said was, oh,

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Speaker 2: you look so pretty. And what did you say back?

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Speaker 2: I said, I did look so pretty.

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Speaker 1: And I was like, wow, you look so pretty Lunnington.

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Speaker 1: And then I spent some of the episode just vanity wise,

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Speaker 1: wondering where.

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Speaker 2: It's gone wrong? Do you know what I mean? Like,

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Speaker 2: what what exactly has slid.

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Speaker 1: On my face? What is melting to make me look

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Speaker 1: the way I look now? I wish i'd appreciated that

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Speaker 1: back then. You're crazy. You look even But I said

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Speaker 1: to Jess in return, you look even hotter now.

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Speaker 2: Because by the way, she did not say to me,

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Speaker 2: you look so pretty.

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Speaker 1: Too, I said, I think you look hotterer now, like

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Speaker 1: pure girlfriend, like Vanity. You know, I think Jess is

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Speaker 1: and she's getting hotter and the rest of us are melting.

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Speaker 2: I will I will take that compliment. I will take

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Speaker 2: that compliment. And then uh, and then I do remember

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Speaker 2: saying back to you funny because if if that is true, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I have a worldwide audience of you know, my worldwide

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Speaker 2: audience appreciating what's happened. It's diminished since the years where

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Speaker 2: it was on television every week with whatever it is

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Speaker 2: that I look like in the episode that we're we watching, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you said how many millions of people will watch me then?

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Speaker 1: And now it's like seven. You said, it's just the

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Speaker 2: I know it is what it is. The chickens. The

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Speaker 1: We have to jump in though, because I can. I

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Speaker 1: tell you I have six I stole my kids notepad.

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Speaker 1: I have six pages of notes on this episode. I

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Speaker 1: went through it and I and like just said, when

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Speaker 1: I was like, A, this cast is fantastic, this is

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Speaker 1: I was laughing. I was into all the storylines. I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I too felt the same way. I just was

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Speaker 2: in awe of how good everyone is and how perfectly cast.

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Speaker 2: Shout out to Linda Lowie. I mean, truly, the show

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Speaker 2: is just so well cast. Everyone's so good in it.

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Speaker 2: There were things that they were doing that I was like, God,

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Speaker 2: I don't And then I was trying to think back

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Speaker 2: to you know, I think it's worth mentioning the table

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Speaker 2: read is where it all starts. Yeah, and I do.

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Speaker 2: It was trying to remember the table read, and I

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Speaker 2: remember certain shows you know from the table read. You

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Speaker 2: know that it's you feel kind of bad for the

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Speaker 2: director because they're usually you know, only there for that episode,

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Speaker 2: and you're like, ooh, this one's so good. Don't get up. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: this one's good. And it was written by Julie Wong,

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Speaker 2: who is just a fan favorite and a hilarious human being.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if you go back and watch Julia Wang's episodes,

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Speaker 1: you will realize she can do it all. But she

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Speaker 1: But she just always steps up to the plate when

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Then a director was a female director that episode,

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Speaker 2: Sidney Freeland. Yes, yep, I felt a little bit. Like

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Speaker 2: I said, I felt for her. I didn't feel bad

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Speaker 2: And it was episode twenty of that season, which means

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Speaker 2: do you know what happens when that happens during that

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Speaker 1: Well, it's a certain time of year in a certain

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Speaker 2: And so we're in twenty So everyone's.

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Speaker 1: Toasty, everyone is tired. Okay, So where to start, Well,

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Speaker 1: the let's start with the episode opens up. So the

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Speaker 1: episode opens up on what I think is probably the

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Speaker 2: You guys? It opens up with a gorgeous at Joe Wilson.

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Speaker 1: It opens up with me pushing a mouse through the

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Speaker 1: You know what I thought of when I saw myself

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Speaker 1: And I'm wheeling the mouse in because Joe and Meredith

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Speaker 2: To be held. Yep, there's a little bit more. Everybody's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I was trying to remember if David Bowie

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Speaker 1: I don't know if we had a professional mouse act

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Speaker 1: so we get we and so then we get into

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Speaker 1: And I think we can say that the scenes when

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Speaker 2: All together and it takes a long time to film.

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Speaker 2: Gree is what I was gonna say. Actually, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: there's always more potential. And you always have the same

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Speaker 2: going to be given me shit about something, Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: Of course, absolutely as I should. We had some new

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Speaker 1: I remember when I was watching that scene, I was

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Speaker 2: And then when they were kind of like it wasn't sexy,

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Speaker 1: There to get I mean, I for some reason, that's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I think that what

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Speaker 2: being the ships. You remember, and you know that it's

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Speaker 2: Sarah and Jesse.

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Speaker 1: You know that it's yeah, it's Sarah and Jesse Keepner,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I loved watching that relationship and they were

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Speaker 2: so great. Kelly and Jesse were great together. I don't

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Speaker 2: But I felt at.

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Speaker 1: The time as a viewer that something was a little

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Speaker 2: be a doctor today. So then we all sort of

437
00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,359
Speaker 2: then hair off. So it's de Luca, Maggie and I

438
00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:04,960
Speaker 2: because Maggie wanders off and I'm like, I gotta get her.

439
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 2: Pairs runs off.

440
00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:07,960
Speaker 1: Okay, but I think we need to talk about something

441
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:11,120
Speaker 1: because within that scene, there was like a panning across

442
00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:14,400
Speaker 1: of everybody, right, and everyone started.

443
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:15,920
Speaker 2: To like you could see the effects right.

444
00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:20,439
Speaker 1: Like you know Andrew's comatoes, there's I think Jackson sniffs

445
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:25,760
Speaker 1: a pillow and puts it down, and a conversation started

446
00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:32,439
Speaker 1: of what being high like that physically feels like an

447
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,680
Speaker 1: is and do you remember this whole conversation like you're

448
00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:40,280
Speaker 1: not on psychedelics, you're because some of us, initially I

449
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,520
Speaker 1: think we're taking it too far where we were almost

450
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:44,720
Speaker 1: like we were, you know, tripping.

451
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,800
Speaker 2: Balls Yep, definitely on LSD.

452
00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, it was more of an LSD like you're

453
00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,479
Speaker 1: a Woodstock kind of situation. And so we had we

454
00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,640
Speaker 1: had we had a drug conversation like, yeah.

455
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,400
Speaker 2: They were one head band and a pair of bell

456
00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:02,080
Speaker 2: bottoms away from trip and balls on a stage in Woodstock. Yeah. Well,

457
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 2: so there was.

458
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 1: A conversation about like, hey, this isn't this isn't LSD.

459
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you remember that? And then I think it

460
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 2: was sort of right sized, right, everybody went, oh, right, okay,

461
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,359
Speaker 2: and then yeah, because we also had I remember also

462
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,199
Speaker 2: that every actor had a different way of doing it.

463
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,200
Speaker 2: But I remember one actor really had created their timeline

464
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,360
Speaker 2: so they like, on a scale of one to ten

465
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 2: how high they were going to be. Oh that's great.

466
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,680
Speaker 2: So every time we got to that scene, they were like, oh,

467
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 2: I'm I'm at a four here. Oh that's smart, because

468
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,359
Speaker 2: if you don't know this, which maybe you don't, we

469
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,200
Speaker 2: don't shoot the scenes in order, so we jump around

470
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:40,400
Speaker 2: all the different scenes, and so to know how high

471
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,960
Speaker 2: or not high you were, they had like put down

472
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:46,720
Speaker 2: where they were in their character's highness, which I completely stole.

473
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 2: I stole that and also did my own scale of

474
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:51,360
Speaker 2: one to ten for all the scenes, because again, how

475
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:55,159
Speaker 2: can you remember if you're bopping around? Yes, and I do.

476
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,720
Speaker 1: I remember was we take all your phones in those scenes,

477
00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,320
Speaker 1: And I remember Maggie has this line this like you

478
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 1: look so pretty, you look like a cartoon, and trying

479
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 1: not to laugh every time she said it to me

480
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 1: because it was just so she I mean.

481
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:08,199
Speaker 2: Kelly's so funny.

482
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 1: I think you just brought that up to bring up

483
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:11,400
Speaker 1: up pretty you are again, And it was hard being

484
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 1: that pretty that day I can imagine it was No.

485
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 1: I thought that line was very funny, and yeah, it

486
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 1: was difficult being that gorgeous. I know, I did laugh

487
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:24,879
Speaker 1: at the walk Pierce runs off, Andrew's just floating around

488
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 1: the hospital and that's he's stroking the walls. And the

489
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,680
Speaker 1: next scene, oh oh.

490
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:30,200
Speaker 2: Oh, we missed it out.

491
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 1: So then it cuts to this whole other storyline that

492
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 1: I totally forgot about.

493
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 2: It the Foster Ohen Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, this is

494
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 2: where it goes.

495
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 1: Yes, we go off and then it goes to and

496
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:43,359
Speaker 1: then I was trying to remember, are they together, like

497
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 1: I was trying to figure out.

498
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:47,680
Speaker 2: I thought, that's Owen married. Yeah, and then I also,

499
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 2: I'm just being honest. I also thought, oh, man, because

500
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 2: lord knows, it's happened to me a million times. When

501
00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:00,880
Speaker 2: you when you're the other storyline, like when there's definitely

502
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 2: a storyline that's got like all the bells and whistles

503
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 2: and stars and stress and pizzazz, and then you're in

504
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,399
Speaker 2: the storyline that's like the b storyline. Yeah, you're you

505
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 2: have a cold at home. Yeah, And so we go

506
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 2: to Owen finding out that he's gonna get a baby. Well,

507
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 2: he's gonna get a foster child, and it's not going

508
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:21,399
Speaker 2: to be a child.

509
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:25,120
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a baby. Yes, it's gonna be our baby.

510
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 1: I do this as an actor on this show. I

511
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 1: also like to visually snoop around people's houses, like what

512
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,200
Speaker 1: kind of stuff, you know, because I'm like, Owen's house

513
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,880
Speaker 1: to me, looked good and I was like, you know what, maybe.

514
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 2: Joe needs a little bookshelf like that.

515
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,360
Speaker 1: You know. At the time, she was in the loft too,

516
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 1: I think, so I was like, Wow, he's got he's

517
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 1: got a good setup there at the Owen household.

518
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:52,440
Speaker 2: Yep. So then he calls Amelia and says, can you

519
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,679
Speaker 2: help me out? And she seems pretty willing. Meanwhile, this

520
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 2: is a little bit where logic runs out the door,

521
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 2: because don't they like need all hands on deck with

522
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:04,400
Speaker 2: all those doctors. Shouldn't she have stayed? They shouldn't Owe

523
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 2: actually have been called in. Owen should have been.

524
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they absolutely should have been called in.

525
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 2: They got no doctors.

526
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:14,360
Speaker 1: They don't have no doctors, no, no one, no high

527
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 1: doctors exactly right.

528
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 2: But she comes in and it's funny.

529
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:20,919
Speaker 1: I could not figure out if they were together or not,

530
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 1: because uh, Katerina and Kevin have such really they have

531
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,200
Speaker 1: really good chemistry on camera, and the only way I

532
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 1: could figure out if they were married is is I

533
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,879
Speaker 1: looked for their ring fingers. I was like, wait, are like,

534
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:37,119
Speaker 1: what's going on? And then I had totally also forgotten

535
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 1: that they basically fostered a baby together, and I think

536
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 1: he ends up adopting the baby.

537
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:45,680
Speaker 2: Does he have a child? Now?

538
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:47,879
Speaker 1: I don't know he does, but like you know, Grays,

539
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 1: you know, it's like hard for me to remember these

540
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 1: things anyway, So it's it does set up that storyline,

541
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 1: and then we do cut back and to the hospital.

542
00:26:56,760 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 1: Andrew is stroking the the wall, Maggie is running.

543
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 2: And then when Maggie tells Arizona that she's never ever

544
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 2: been high before and that she's not she doesn't make

545
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,399
Speaker 2: a choice when she gets drunk, so she thinks that

546
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 2: she needs to be alone. Arizona's like, you cannot leave

547
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 2: me alone. I need to be with someone, and is

548
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 2: that when you bring it.

549
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,119
Speaker 1: Maybe that's not the moment, but you end up you

550
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:20,640
Speaker 1: do end up bringing them into that room.

551
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 2: I forget what that room is. No, I think we

552
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 2: go into a different room at that point. But then

553
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 2: so before Amelia goes to Owen's, she goes into her

554
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:32,400
Speaker 2: lab and she finds Alex, and Alex is very apparently hot.

555
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 1: Reveal of Alex in that like I put weird science

556
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 1: in my notes.

557
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:38,199
Speaker 2: I don't even know what it is.

558
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 1: It looked like in Back to the Future when Doc

559
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 1: is wearing that thing on his head.

560
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,159
Speaker 2: That's what it reminded me of. It cracked me up

561
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 2: because I don't.

562
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 1: Think Alex appears in the big auditorium scene, or at

563
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 1: least we don't see him, and so it's just revealed.

564
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 1: Of course at some point he's had his hands in

565
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 1: that cookie jar. Oh yeah, it's perfect Alex Karev. And

566
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 1: it's a very funny reveal. And so he's he gets

567
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 1: evacuated from the hospital and he's then you know, that's

568
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 1: where that storyline is coming with me, is coming with me.

569
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, Jackson and Catherine are back, and then it cuts

570
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:23,679
Speaker 2: back and I wrote down thirteen women. Yeah.

571
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, so this this storyline, even though they're high, these

572
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 1: two together are sort of working through the reveal and

573
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 1: truth of this that I think it was a great

574
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 1: storyline because we'll talk.

575
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 2: About this at some point.

576
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 1: But Katherine, it kind of explains the position she was

577
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 1: in and that times have changed, and she you know.

578
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 2: Well because well at this point, I think she's really

579
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 2: just saying, listen, there's stuff you didn't know. Now you're

580
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 2: going to have to be a big boy and no,

581
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 2: and I'm going to tell you what happened. And he's

582
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 2: all full of judgment and like this is so bad,

583
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 2: how could you do this? It starts to set up that, yeah,

584
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 2: this is so bad, and they're thirteen women and it's

585
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 2: it's all very much. It seems like it's very directionally

586
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 2: going at Catherine like she's done something wrong. Meanwhile, they

587
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 2: don't know that April is there, and she overhears the

588
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 2: whole conversation. Yeah, she does that creepy, little like weird

589
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 2: slide out at the end by the door.

590
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

591
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so now she's ever heard this. Now, now

592
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 2: you find out that it affects the whole hospital. Yes, yeah.

593
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,479
Speaker 2: So Meredith is like, we're done. We're canceling surgeries, all

594
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 2: all the surgeries that are elective or can be postponed.

595
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 2: We're cut, we're cutting. And then she sees the interns

596
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 2: and this was the part where I was actually a

597
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 2: bit like I had to question myself.

598
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 1: I want to talk about this moment too, because this

599
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 1: is a moment where I'm talking to the interns, just

600
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 1: sort of with Meredith, and first off, I was like, oh,

601
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 1: Blue Life, Blue Scrubs, Like it brought me back a

602
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 1: little bit. I was like, oh, And it was also

603
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: a little bit where we got to play a little

604
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 1: a little comedy and a little like improvvness with the

605
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 1: playfulness of Joe being in charge to the interns. I

606
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 1: haven't seen that intern class in a long time, so

607
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 1: I used to like see all those faces. Yeah, but yeah,

608
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 1: so that in that moment, it gets revealed, right that

609
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 1: one of the one of the one of the guys

610
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 1: is lying.

611
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 2: No, it's not revealed though, he just they all deny

612
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 2: it and you and if you were really paying attention,

613
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 2: you would remember that Vic was there and he did

614
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 2: have a cookie, but it wasn't like featured, so it

615
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 2: wasn't like he's lying. He's lying. He's lying.

616
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 1: Well, isn't there like a punch in on him? Maybe

617
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 1: in that moment maybe, But my point is I missed it.

618
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 1: I think there's a little punchin on him that's like

619
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 1: a wink wink, Remember those guys a little bell a liar.

620
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's yeah, he seems a little sparmy. Okay.

621
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 2: So then something happens that I forgot that I think

622
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 2: is such a genius Julie Wong touch, which is that

623
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 2: Meredith gets a page that's nine to one one, so

624
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 2: she from Bailey. So she goes to ba Bailey's o

625
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 2: R and you forgot that Bailey had a cookie and

626
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 2: she's like, I'm feeling a little dizzy and like yes, and.

627
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 1: You're like, not Bailey, Yes, and shout out to our

628
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 1: director because that like that you I don't know what

629
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 1: that camera thing is the it's also stupid where the

630
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 1: background's moving but you're a still and it really does

631
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 1: feel trippy. Loved all of that in the whole episode

632
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 1: because it's used multiple times and it does disorientate your

633
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 1: disorient tid disoriented. And and by the way, this is

634
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 1: the I feel like, this is the first moment that

635
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 1: we see Levi and Jake.

636
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 2: Brella looks so young and he's got his glasses on.

637
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 1: The glasses on so cute. But yes, she can't she's tripping.

638
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 1: She's tripping the balls.

639
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 2: So Meredith is like, don't worry, I got you. I'm

640
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 2: gonna take this over because it's already started, so we

641
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 2: can't push this off. And then while she's saying, are

642
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 2: you sure I got you? Sure you got you, she

643
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 2: closes the door on Meredith's hand. On the hand, there's

644
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 2: a hand.

645
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: Now Meredith can't and by the way, that is you

646
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: cannot squish Meredith Gray's hand. No, that's a dicey situation.

647
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 1: Wait why oh, just Jake, because it's Meredith great.

648
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 2: Are he can't hurt her? We've hurt her a lot.

649
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 1: We've hurt her a lot, but like we have her,

650
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 1: but she needs the hands are important.

651
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 2: The show has almost drowned her. It is almost It's true.

652
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 2: It's true. Yes, but you taking issue with the hand

653
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 2: in the door. The door, the hand in the door.

654
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 2: It frightened me, jump scare for me. When I was watching,

655
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 2: I was not okay. So she's not going to be

656
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 2: able to do this surgery. So who is Joe Wilson?

657
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 2: Who's going to do this surgery? Joe Wilson? And do

658
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 2: you know what I got to get that?

659
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 1: I got to get them a little behind the scenes

660
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 1: about this because there was and still sort of is

661
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 1: a running joke that all Joe ever did in any

662
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 1: surgery was suction.

663
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 2: That was a joke that happened to a lot of people.

664
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 2: There were a lot of people who were just suctioners.

665
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 1: We and so and so this was a moment that I,

666
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 1: I don't know, Jessin Williams loves to give me the

667
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 1: little pokey bokes about the I only do a suction.

668
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 1: This was a moment where it was Joe's time to shine. Yeah,

669
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 1: and I remember is an actor being like, hell, yeah, Joe,

670
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 1: you get your.

671
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 2: Butt in there.

672
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 1: I mean, that's not how she felt. She was like,

673
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 1: you get a scalpel. She was, yeah, you get a

674
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 1: scalpel and you go in. So I was very excited.

675
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 2: Because you're a real doctor. I love that. And that's

676
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 2: the bad assery. Yeah, and when you're in light blue

677
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 2: scrubs like those moments, that's real. That's almost like going

678
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 2: back to season one, right, Yeah, yeah, I love that.

679
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 2: So just as an actor, it's like, yes, no suction.

680
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 2: So then I mean, again, I give them all the

681
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 2: love in the world, but just because I don't know,

682
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 2: maybe we're not going to be here for twelve hours. Uh,

683
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 2: Then all the Amelia and Alex stuff is happening at

684
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 2: Owen's house and they're cleaning up the house and.

685
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 1: I know, but you know what, I did love all

686
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 1: those scenes, even though it was he did too, but

687
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 1: it was so funny.

688
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, we we We're back there.

689
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 1: Alex is scoffing all of the snacks and cracking cracking

690
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 1: me up.

691
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 2: And I love that, like I love that.

692
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 1: It's him because of course he's the only character that's

693
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 1: going to be like and he literally says, you are

694
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 1: so screwed right now. He's he's the opposite of Amelia.

695
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 2: He's not you got this. He's like, you don't got this.

696
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 2: He's like, you absolutely don't got this.

697
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 1: And he's laughing and there's like chips coming out of

698
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 1: his mouth, and it's just you needed Alex there for

699
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: that moment for sure.

700
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, very funny, Julie. But there's something about his character

701
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 2: where even though he's saying you don't got this, you

702
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 2: still know you do because he's not freaking out. He's

703
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 2: kind of like always got this. Like there's a lightness

704
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 2: to like he's chuckling at you, which makes you feel

705
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 2: like it can't be that bad. He's just kind of laughing.

706
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 2: It's gonna be okay. I think I don't know.

707
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 1: I mean, like, I don't I think he really thinks

708
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:41,720
Speaker 1: he's probably a little bit screwed.

709
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 2: But okay, so he tells me he screwed that we

710
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 2: go back to the skills lap.

711
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 1: And you I put down in my notes Arizona is

712
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:59,240
Speaker 1: guarding a weed prison. Yes, that's what that room feels

713
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 1: like to me. Where you guys were on the couch.

714
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 2: He's okay.

715
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 1: So Andrew's like, he's on the he's on the floor,

716
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 1: and he's I forget Janine's character's name, Janny Mason. I

717
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,399
Speaker 1: just loved Janine so much. She was so great. She

718
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,839
Speaker 1: was so she only because she got a big job.

719
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 2: She got like some big show from there, right she did.

720
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 1: She got roswell, she got a fancy show, right right,

721
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 1: and of course she got it because she's fantastic. And

722
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 1: just even seeing a glimpse of her face on the

723
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:27,839
Speaker 1: laying next to de Luca, I was like.

724
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 2: Sam Bellow. She played doctor sam Bello.

725
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,240
Speaker 1: That's right, yeah, sam Bello, she played sam Bello. Seeing

726
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: her gorgeous.

727
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 2: Face, yeah, the nicest actress.

728
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: It made me feel like Andrew, I was like, you

729
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 1: know what, I'm heartbroken too that we we lost her.

730
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 1: But this scene is so funny between you guys. Do

731
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 1: you remember filming this because she's banging on about cheese

732
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: and you're talking about Karina.

733
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah that's what. That's the room where

734
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,479
Speaker 2: I felt like we were the longest, at least filming

735
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 2: the longest.

736
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

737
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 2: She starts talking about cheese and then I'm on the couch.

738
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 2: I remember it was a leather couch and it was

739
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 2: squeak every time. I was a squeaky Yes, it just

740
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 2: makes it. You got to watch that for sound, yeah

741
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 2: and bow and sound would be like apshaw, stop moving.

742
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah yeah, so I was very still yeah yeah,

743
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 2: which kind of worked.

744
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 1: Yeah.

745
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

746
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 1: Do you remember finding it hard to get through that

747
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 1: scene because she's like Swiss?

748
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 2: Yes, we had I would have last for each other.

749
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 2: But also we had no prompts. It was like none

750
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,399
Speaker 2: of our lines. Normally, in a conversation, your line makes

751
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 2: sense because of what the other character said right before you,

752
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 2: but in this situation, all of our lines were We

753
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 2: were just having conversations with ourselves. Yeah, and then they

754
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 2: were but then there was like someone else that was talking,

755
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 2: like interjecting. Totally nonlinear to what you were saying. And

756
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 2: so I found this kind of interesting because you know,

757
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 2: I always found Arizona to be so confident, Like you

758
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 2: didn't see her question herself a lot, Like she was

759
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 2: always very from being lesbianic to like never having questioned

760
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 2: her sexuality as a kid, which is like who does that?

761
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 2: That's a superhero? Like just always straight straight, well not straight,

762
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 2: but very straight about her ideas, like knowing exactly who

763
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,879
Speaker 2: she was and what she was, and so you don't

764
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 2: see a lot of you don't see her insecurities so much,

765
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 2: you don't see her questioning herself so much, And so

766
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 2: I thought it was kind of interesting that there she

767
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 2: was talking about whether or not she was going too

768
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 2: fast with Karina, but then she starts talking about having

769
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 2: been ghosted, and then she talks about having been left

770
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,840
Speaker 2: and then and so you have like this like triple

771
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 2: packed punch of Arizona going huh. I heard her saying,

772
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 2: am I not good enough? Right? Like? Am I not?

773
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 2: Am I not someone that people stay for?

774
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 1: Do you remember in this episode when you're playing these scenes,

775
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 1: do you remember? Because I thought the episode was going

776
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: to end with you breaking up with Karina, and so

777
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 1: I was quite surprised. We can talk about this at

778
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:11,240
Speaker 1: the end. Do you remember the filming this, whether you

779
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 1: feel like Arizona was going to you felt like it

780
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 1: was going to be starting to lean out of the

781
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 1: relationship as opposed to lean in.

782
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 2: I think that maybe the reason that you might have

783
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 2: thought that was because she had the slip where she

784
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 2: was talking about Calie.

785
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,760
Speaker 1: She does later, yes, but even saying like we're moving

786
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: too fast?

787
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 2: Am I moving too fast?

788
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 1: I don't know, I kind of okay, No, I mean

789
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 1: you player, you tell me.

790
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 2: I wish that they had had more scenes where you

791
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,760
Speaker 2: saw what they like so much about each other, because

792
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 2: you really just had to guess, like, you know, it

793
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 2: worked for us to be together, and we had that

794
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 2: very funny first scene where we're like, yeah, making out,

795
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 2: But it wasn't like you didn't see us like becoming

796
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 2: friends too, Like you didn't see us becoming like deepening

797
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 2: the relationship and figuring out what we liked so much

798
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 2: Buddy to Anyways, Yes, she's talking about cheese and then

799
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 2: it goes back.

800
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 1: To Bailey by which, yes, they're so funny. I love you,

801
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:32,879
Speaker 1: don't You don't see these two characters together very much.

802
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:37,720
Speaker 1: Both of them say they've never done pop before, and

803
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 1: and it just starts to set up this amazing twosome

804
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 1: that we again don't see much and uh and and

805
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 1: and where it goes from there, But it's the beginning

806
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 1: really of those two.

807
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 2: In another we Jail Another where April starts it off

808
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 2: with I know something I heard something that I shouldn't

809
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 2: have heard and end of an era.

810
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 1: At the end of a bad, bad era, and you're like, oh, You're.

811
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 2: Like, well, I guess she wasn't going to keep that

812
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 2: secret for sure.

813
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 1: Well you're kind of like you're kind of wondering, like

814
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 1: how what you know? Because she's high, Like it is

815
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 1: intriguing because you're like, what has she heard? How she

816
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,320
Speaker 1: interpreted it? Is she gonna spill all the beans?

817
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:22,280
Speaker 2: Yeah?

818
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 1: Yeah?

819
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 2: And to Bailey, yeah yeah, of all people, who's just

820
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, she's she's just I don't know, I

821
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 2: can't even come up with a right word for what

822
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 2: Bailey is, but she's definitely like she just seems like

823
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 2: she's the one. She's like the I want to say

824
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 2: that oracle. It's not the oracle she's like, but she's

825
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 2: like the if you wanted to know whether something was

826
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 2: fair or not, you'd go to Bailey. She seems like

827
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,919
Speaker 2: she's the person who just has all the answers. Yeah,

828
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 2: she does, and she would figure it out. She'd be

829
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 2: my phone a friend, you know, like if you call it.

830
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 1: You have an opportunity to call someone that Bailey can

831
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 1: also cause her ruckus when she knows yes, and so

832
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 1: you know that this information is not gonna it's not

833
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:06,720
Speaker 1: gonna be smooth sailing by any means.

834
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no no.

835
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 1: So then cut to Miss Joe Wilson in her surgery. Yep,

836
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,439
Speaker 1: and I wanted to shout out to Linda Kleine, Linda Kohn.

837
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 2: I say, bring the scans over, and we need to

838
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 2: talk about Linda Klein. So Linda, and she goes, yes doctor,

839
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 2: which I love her, love yes doctor.

840
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: Yes, Linda makes me feel so good. So Linda's a

841
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 1: real surgeon. She's an executive producer on our show. She's

842
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 1: been here like literally since the beginning of time.

843
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 2: She was on Niptock before.

844
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 1: And she is the one that actually during scenes, she

845
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 1: during the or scenes or any of these medical scenes,

846
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 1: she comes in. She Corey Grass that she tells us

847
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 1: what we're doing wrong, What we need to do right

848
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:49,720
Speaker 1: mostly what we're doing wrong.

849
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 2: She is the absolutely best. I mean it is the best.

850
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 2: Talk about like the heartbeat of a show.

851
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 1: I mean, yes, so she's just bringing scans to me,

852
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 1: but really that she is the doctor, the real doctor.

853
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 1: God in the room is Linda Klein. And I did

854
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 1: get a kick out of her saying yes, doctor, Yes.

855
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 2: I told I I saw her. And whenever I see her,

856
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 2: it's like, oh, yes, I'm so happy. Bokey's in the

857
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 2: room too.

858
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 1: Bokey is in that surgery too, and Bokey has been

859
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 1: with us forever.

860
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:20,439
Speaker 2: Quick quick story, real quick.

861
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 1: When I very first started the show, how I met

862
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 1: Bokey is that Shanda Rhimes before I even no maybe

863
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 1: i'd filmed something, but she sent me to watch a

864
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:33,360
Speaker 1: real surgery and Bokey was doing that real surgery, open

865
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 1: heart surgery. And that's the first time I met her.

866
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,720
Speaker 1: She helped me scrub in. She's just doing anything, scrub

867
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 1: nurse and so h So Bokey's there and Joe and LEVI,

868
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,760
Speaker 1: you know, like they're not friends really yet, I think,

869
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 1: but but they obviously slept together at this point. But

870
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 1: it's fun that I love it when they're own surgery

871
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 1: is together. Then it's backed to Jackson and MoMA Avery.

872
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 2: Yep, and they're going to get into it. They're going

873
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 2: to get into it because he's freaking out and he's

874
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 2: not understanding why his mom is so calm because it's

875
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 2: all new information to him. So then they kind of

876
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 2: get into the whole thing about reminding us that they're

877
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 2: actually both high too, so they are both high while

878
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 2: this guy saying very big thing.

879
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 1: These two are the most I think these two are

880
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: the most grounded high for sure.

881
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, for sure. Then we're back because then we're back.

882
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: To Owen and uh and Alex Kreb is not a

883
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 1: grounded high Alex Kreb has made a chip baby.

884
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 2: Oh man, I remember when the table read these moments

885
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:40,439
Speaker 2: with Alex.

886
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 1: Being high and just thinking it was so hysterical because

887
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 1: then the baby comes in and Alex pretends he's there,

888
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 1: he's supposed to be in the back room, but it

889
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 1: smells like Owen or something smells too much like oh.

890
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 2: Yes, guess yes, but wait, also just to go back

891
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 2: because I actually thought that like wow, because there's things

892
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,439
Speaker 2: that are in you know, headlines right now that are

893
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 2: quite that touched on the same topic. But I actually

894
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 2: took I took a screenshot.

895
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 1: Of it, so I was like, you know what, Oh,

896
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 1: let me see what is it?

897
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 2: Well, no, it's the words to the scene because when

898
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 2: Jackson really gives Catherine a hard time and says like,

899
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 2: what the heck, like, you don't get to do that?

900
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 2: Why did you get why did you keep this a secret?

901
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 2: And she come she starts to come back at him

902
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 2: because she realizes something, and she says to him, no, no, no,

903
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 2: you do not get to do that. You do not

904
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 2: get to stand there in judgment of me thirty years ago,

905
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:41,720
Speaker 2: getting harassed at work, getting groped at work wasn't something

906
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 2: we could protest. It was something we had to take

907
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 2: with our morning coffee. It was part of the job.

908
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 2: And if we made a noise, if we fussed, we

909
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 2: were told we were overreacting, and more often than not,

910
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 2: we lost the job and our reputation along with it.

911
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 2: I was not then who I am now. I didn't

912
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 2: have the voice then that I have now. I had choices.

913
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,359
Speaker 2: I could stand there and let your grandfather fire those

914
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 2: women and drag them through the mud, or I could

915
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 2: make sure they got some money a leg to stand

916
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 2: on a path to move forward. I'm not ashamed of myself, Jackson,

917
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 2: but I am ashamed of what your grandfather did. And

918
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry that now you have to carry that

919
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 2: burden along with me. Did you pull up the script?

920
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 2: Did you go back and google the script in your phone?

921
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 2: I to, well, when I was watching it, I had

922
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 2: the captions on. Oh yeah, and I screenshot every single

923
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 2: line because I was like, I had to go.

924
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 1: Back because I was like, oh, good, Julie, so glad

925
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:35,720
Speaker 1: we went back, Julie.

926
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 2: Those are such I mean.

927
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 1: So it just this is what this is what I love,

928
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 1: love love about Crazy Anatomy so much as these writers

929
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 1: are so good, and it started so early from episode one,

930
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 1: and it just has carried on and we are talking

931
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 1: about season fourteen right now, this episode of season fourteen,

932
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:58,320
Speaker 1: and it keeps doing it, which is just illuminating the challenge,

933
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:02,360
Speaker 1: illuminating the hardship and things are not simple, and sexual

934
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:04,240
Speaker 1: harassment is not simple.

935
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 2: It is very nuanced, and each situation in which it

936
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 2: occurs is obviously individual, but how often, no matter, what

937
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 2: seems to be associated with sexual harassment is that the

938
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 2: woman did something wrong, that she overreacted, that she you

939
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 2: know that she did something, and almost always it seems

940
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 2: like it's the woman that gets blamed. And I mean,

941
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 2: if you go after listen, if you start looking around

942
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 2: at everything that anyone's ever done in their life, you're

943
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 2: likely to find something. Right. But I think that we

944
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:40,839
Speaker 2: lose sight of the point, which is that all that

945
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,839
Speaker 2: matters is the sexual harassment. In a court of law

946
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 2: or in a court of public opinion, all the matters

947
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 2: is the offense. Who the person was or how they

948
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 2: dealt with it is not the issue. Anyways, I digress. No, No,

949
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 2: I think it's a great I don't.

950
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't want to skip over it, to be honest,

951
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 1: because I think that one thing that it makes you

952
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 1: ruminate about is that and this still happens, is this

953
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 1: is not not you can there's still a feeling that

954
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:12,319
Speaker 1: you can't speak up for many many reasons and all

955
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 1: different kinds of environments and jobs and family and all

956
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 1: the things. And I think that women were have this

957
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 1: expert level of finding ways to shake it off, laugh

958
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 1: it off, yeah, make a joke of it, make it

959
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 1: highte like, however you needed to deal And I think

960
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 1: that we deal with this in so many episodes on Graze.

961
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 2: But this speech of hers taking.

962
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 1: It with your morning coffee, that line is fantastic because

963
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 1: it feels it for a time and for some people

964
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 1: it still does.

965
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 2: It feels like that's just part of life. Just endure it.

966
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay, glad we went back. I'm so glad

967
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: you took pictures of that, right that that was probably

968
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 1: the most important moment of the whole show. But we

969
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 1: do go back to uh, to Alex Greb and his

970
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 1: crushed chip baby and the and the baby arriving, and

971
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:19,760
Speaker 1: then we go to Richard and the weak cookies.

972
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 2: Yes, and now he's now at least we have another

973
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 2: responsible doctor. We have someone else, thank god.

974
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 1: At this point we're like using the janitor for like surgeries.

975
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:35,760
Speaker 1: We have someone that did not take the wee cookies.

976
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 1: And then we're dealing with an intern who is high

977
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 1: doctor Roy and a central.

978
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 2: Line, yeah, because he responds to he responds.

979
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 1: To uh, you know, being paged and someone needs a

980
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 1: central line and he doesn't want to do it. And

981
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 1: then we get to see Helmum Parker. These are our interns.

982
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 1: We haven't seen it so long, I mean, how we

983
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 1: still have the show. But yeah, I knew when we

984
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 1: were reading this at the table read, I was like,

985
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:09,840
Speaker 1: this is this is one of those dramas where you know,

986
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 1: because we tend on the show to you know, not

987
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 1: everyone makes it.

988
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 2: It's part of the show always. I mean, it's been

989
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:17,240
Speaker 2: part of that speech from.

990
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 1: Day one, like look at the person next to you,

991
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:21,439
Speaker 1: they may be gone, and so you know that that's

992
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 1: part of our storytelling. And when we got to that part,

993
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, this may be the end for

994
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 1: this doctor.

995
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 2: I was like, this doctor may be heading in well,

996
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 2: and it goes from bad to worse, right because you

997
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:38,720
Speaker 2: know that he's hosed, but now he gets double hosed

998
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 2: because he ends up running into the part that has

999
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 2: the scalpel and then and it's pretty bad. Oh yeah.

1000
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:49,359
Speaker 1: And we should say, by the way that like we

1001
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 1: as actors, we are not always aware of who is leaving.

1002
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 1: Sometimes we really do discover these things in the tape read.

1003
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, that character's going that actor knows,

1004
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 1: but like we, you know, it's not always discussed with

1005
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:03,839
Speaker 1: all of us and like a huge group meeting. So

1006
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 1: it was still surprising that this is where the storyline

1007
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:08,319
Speaker 1: was going. But as we were reading the table read.

1008
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 1: I was like, oh boy, then it's back to Miss

1009
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 1: Joe Wilson and she's decided that the weber pen is

1010
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:19,439
Speaker 1: going to be used. I think we should talk about

1011
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 1: redly quick because this is the surgery of the episode,

1012
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 1: all of that stuff.

1013
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 2: That you're seeing. It's like, we have this body cat.

1014
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 1: We have this body like a torso basically, and it's

1015
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 1: the middle is cut out. It looks like it's put out,

1016
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:40,240
Speaker 1: and it's almost like a bowl, right, like a rectangle bowl,

1017
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 1: and we shove stuff in there, so that's like a

1018
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 1: lot of plastic guts, and we fill it with blood

1019
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:48,319
Speaker 1: and all the things so that we can suction, and

1020
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 1: we fill it with water. But I believe that's most

1021
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 1: likely what's on the table. There is this this this

1022
00:50:55,239 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 1: fake mannequin with a a hole in the middle. Yeah,

1023
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,319
Speaker 1: to make this all happen. But she comes up with

1024
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 1: this great plan. She can use the weber pen so

1025
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 1: that she doesn't maybe have to take out all of

1026
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 1: the all of the organ and find where the cancer ends.

1027
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 1: And uh and Levi assent on his way. But there's

1028
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 1: also that back and forth with Meredith of like Joe

1029
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 1: desperately wanting the answer and Meredith knows best. She knows

1030
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 1: that Joe needs to figure this out by herself. She

1031
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 1: already knows the answer, but she she needs to know it.

1032
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:34,319
Speaker 1: Then we go to the intern and I.

1033
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 2: Think you need to talk. I think you I'm gonna

1034
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 2: hit it to you.

1035
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 1: How do we squirt blood on people along Gray's Nani

1036
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 1: Jessica Capsuaw, what what is the way that we do that?

1037
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 1: Because we do it all the time. Well, you mean,

1038
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 1: like the technicality, like, let's let them know, like how

1039
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:51,879
Speaker 1: we make that happen on our show.

1040
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 2: Blood gets squirted all over God, And it's actually very

1041
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 2: like technically, it's very very technical. They're like little balloons

1042
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:05,280
Speaker 2: of blood and they are like pellets or packets of blood,

1043
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 2: and then when you perforate them, blood explodes because they've

1044
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 2: got a little well, if there's someone standing off to

1045
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 2: the side with a little air hose and they're like

1046
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 2: make it, they're pumping it to make the blood squirt. Yeah, yeah,

1047
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 2: so yeah, that's how it goes up a little tube

1048
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 2: and it can as much or as little as you want.

1049
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 2: But sometimes and sometimes when we're doing it, it doesn't work,

1050
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:33,240
Speaker 2: and we have often tiles. Sometimes we have top.

1051
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:37,799
Speaker 1: Issues and we're waiting for an explosion of blood and things.

1052
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 2: Go wrong and that's the show business, baby, that's exactly right,

1053
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 2: and what and the show must what go on? The

1054
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 2: show must go on, all right. So then it goes

1055
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 2: back to my weed prison, where Andrew is still hallucinating

1056
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:57,840
Speaker 2: and he's starting to see his girlfriend Sam and crying.

1057
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 2: That broke my heart when he was crying. Oh, I know,

1058
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 2: I hate that. Maggie is now on the dissection table

1059
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 2: where the first and only time you've ever seen this thing,

1060
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 2: but she's touching it the first time though I don't

1061
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:13,439
Speaker 2: seen it before. I don't.

1062
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 1: I think it may have been introduced in a different episode.

1063
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 1: Maybe you tell us, guys, you tell us. But it

1064
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:20,240
Speaker 1: was a great use of that table.

1065
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and organs are showing up and then they're

1066
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 2: going away, and she's touching it and she's manipulating it.

1067
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:29,320
Speaker 2: And then Arizona's laying there on the thing and the

1068
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 2: couch again and she's talking about how with Karina it

1069
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 2: feels right, and then she brings up Calli's name by accident,

1070
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 2: and then Arizona wonders why she said that. But then

1071
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 2: you plant that, like you know, there's still that part

1072
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 2: of her life, and then she talks about how they.

1073
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 1: Drive her crazy and bid, yeah, I love that Arizona

1074
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 1: is just spilling it because it is not an Arizona.

1075
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:59,399
Speaker 2: You guys are not close friends. She's not a friend

1076
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 2: of Arizona. Nope, nope, but she just she says it all.

1077
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 2: But that's the this is the sad part when she

1078
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 2: says when Arizona says, eventually everyone leaves her, and I

1079
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:12,919
Speaker 2: was like, I remember thinking back then that I didn't

1080
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:14,879
Speaker 2: know that my character felt that way.

1081
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, so, oh, I know that's

1082
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 1: hard when you get those scripts and you're like, wait, yeah,

1083
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:21,319
Speaker 1: I feel that way.

1084
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 2: That sucks. Yeah, but that's but that's when she realizes

1085
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 2: the why she's holding onto Krina so tight. Right, She's like,

1086
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 2: oh my gosh, I can't let her go. I'm letting

1087
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 2: this go so fast because I don't want to lose her.

1088
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you had that little Freudian slip of CALLI baby,

1089
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 1: I know, I know, it's all I mean, listen, this

1090
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 1: is what we're talking about. This is when you know,

1091
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 1: like you're wondering, is this ship gonna be a little

1092
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 1: in between me? Or is it gonna set sail and

1093
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:50,280
Speaker 1: the little Cali slip was like, hmmm, this feels between

1094
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:52,720
Speaker 1: me between sexy sees.

1095
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 2: I mean, as you said earlier, I think that they

1096
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:56,719
Speaker 2: actually could have gone the distance. I think that they

1097
00:54:56,760 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 2: could have been a compelling couple. Yeah.

1098
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's something else happening in this scene.

1099
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 2: Maggie does lose the liver. Yeah, she finds that. She's like,

1100
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 2: it's gone, and it's that's so funny. Okay, So I

1101
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 2: think that you know, listen, you can't know what you

1102
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:16,400
Speaker 2: haven't learned yet. And this is our first rewatch, so

1103
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 2: we had no idea how long it would take us

1104
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:21,920
Speaker 2: to talk about this, that and the other. But here

1105
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Speaker 2: we are at a normal episode marker for our show,

1106
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 2: and we still got a lot to talk about. And

1107
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Speaker 2: I don't want to rush it. I don't want to

1108
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Speaker 2: rush it. So I'm feeling like, maybe we push this

1109
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 2: and we do a whole other episode that finishes this rewatch.

1110
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Speaker 2: What do you think?

1111
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 1: I think we do that because I don't want to.

1112
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Speaker 1: I I'm so excited about this. I feel like the

1113
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 1: crew are so excited about this and this this episode

1114
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 1: is jam packed.

1115
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and by the way, since this is our first one,

1116
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Speaker 2: we may hear from you all. Hey, guess what. We

1117
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Speaker 2: actually want you to speed it up and we want

1118
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 2: to hear about it in one hour. That's great. We

1119
00:55:57,200 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 2: will have learned well for this one. Let's call this

1120
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Speaker 2: the end of the episode.