1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:05,439 Speaker 1: Why don't you share with this audience who your opponent, 2 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: Jack Bergman is and why he is antithetical to everything 3 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: that you have talked about. 4 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 2: He was a lieutenant general in the Marine Corps Reserves. 5 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:20,440 Speaker 2: He's a commercial airline pilot for many years. Most importantly, 6 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 2: he didn't want to certify our elections. He didn't want 7 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 2: to investigate January sixth and Matt and I. When you 8 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 2: bury our black and Brown Marines and then you see 9 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,840 Speaker 2: a Confederate flag in our nation's capital, that should strike 10 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 2: outrage and for that not to be the case to me, 11 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 2: was against everything that we have fought for. His divisiveness, 12 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 2: his extremism, encouraging people to be against each other and 13 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 2: not towards something. To me, it's just such a betrayal 14 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 2: of his oath of office and also trust. I think 15 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 2: as a veteran community we need to have each other's back, 16 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:55,959 Speaker 2: but also for the nation, for the country. I mean, 17 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 2: this is what we have stood up to defend. 18 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: I'm thrilled today to be joined by the woman who 19 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: is going to be the Democratic nominee in Michigan's first district, 20 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: one of the largest congressional districts in the country. The 21 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: largest east of the Mississippi River. 22 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:16,919 Speaker 3: It is a. 23 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 1: Pristine and beautiful spot in America, bounded by forrests, the 24 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: tranquil aqua, blue waters of the Great Lakes, and sadly 25 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: it is represented by an extremist Congressman, Jack Bergman, going 26 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: for his fifth term. But there is a better alternative, 27 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: and that woman is Cali Barr and I'm thrilled that 28 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: you're with me today. 29 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:44,479 Speaker 3: Welcome, Cali. 30 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Steve. I appreciate the opportunity to 31 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 2: be here with you today. 32 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 3: You bet well. 33 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: We're going to talk a lot about your life and 34 00:01:56,000 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: your candidacy, but let's start out out by talking about 35 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: your husband, because you were a military spouse. He was 36 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 1: a gunnery sergeant in the United States Marine Corps, and 37 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 1: your family is one of the one percent that sent 38 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 1: it's loved ones into harm's way into combat. Your husband 39 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: is a Marine Corps combat veteran of the Battle of Fallujah, 40 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 1: which is some of the most intense urban combat in 41 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: the history of the United States Marine Corps. And I'm 42 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 1: just hoping that you might share a little bit about 43 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: you know, that part of your life when you look back. 44 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: Take us through an overview of eighteen. 45 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 3: To thirty for you. 46 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. Yes, you know we had I 47 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 2: met Matt in high school and both of us come 48 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 2: from a small town where you know, our families go 49 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 2: five generations back, and you. 50 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 3: Know they're down is Traver City, Michigan. 51 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 2: Sheboygan actually right right below the bridge there, Sheboygan, Michigan. 52 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 2: And you know, we come from patriotic people, people who 53 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 2: love their country. And you know, September eleventh occurred while 54 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:24,519 Speaker 2: we were in high school, and you know, I remember 55 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 2: Matt coming to me and saying how he wanted to 56 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 2: fight for his country. And you know, we didn't I 57 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 2: didn't know what that looked like, right, but we knew 58 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 2: we were in love, and we were young, and so 59 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 2: we got married. Eighteen nineteen, was in the Marine Corps 60 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 2: and we moved, you know, all over the country. During 61 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 2: that time, I worked to get my teaching degree. And 62 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 2: you know, those experiences that we went through through the 63 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 2: Marine Corps, they molded us. They shaped us. You know, 64 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 2: we grew up into an adulthood believing in something so 65 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 2: much bigger than ourselves. And you know, I held the 66 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 2: hands of my very best friends at the grave site 67 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 2: of their loved ones and you know, the question that 68 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 2: hangs in the air when you do that is is 69 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 2: this worth it? Is it worth it? And you know, 70 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 2: for Matt, you know, he dealt with post traumatic stress 71 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 2: in a traumatic brain injury, you know, and in his 72 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 2: darkest moments when he wondered if it was worth it 73 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 2: to live another day, you know, I would tell him 74 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 2: we are witnessed to something, and in this fight, Matt 75 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 2: is so worth it. It's so worth it. In this country, 76 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 2: service to something like this country, to our democratic ideals, 77 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 2: is worth it. And to me, that has inspired everything 78 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 2: that I've done since then, because I want us to 79 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 2: be worth those sacrifices. As a country and as a people. 80 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 2: You know, we are a nation where you can live 81 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 2: the life that you want to live. Right, Alexei Nolvani 82 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 2: was murdered by the Russian government for exposing its corruption. 83 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 2: You know, we live in a country where you can protest, 84 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 2: where you're allowed to be angry, where as a woman 85 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 2: you can, you know, wear what you want to wear, 86 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 2: where you can where you have rights. And so to me, 87 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 2: fighting for those things means everything. And it all comes 88 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 2: back to that experience that we had together fighting for 89 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 2: each other and that's the thing too, right, Like we 90 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 2: are Americans before we are anything else. We're Americans first, 91 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 2: And to me, what has been such an attack on 92 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 2: our democracy is an attack on us as a people, 93 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 2: which is to say that when we are more focused 94 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 2: on partisan affiliation than we are as seeing Americans first, 95 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 2: we're doing our history and ourselves a disservice. So you know, 96 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 2: you know, he came back from Iraq in Afghanistan, and 97 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 2: he struggled some, but he reached out and he got help. 98 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 2: And I was very much a part of that. You know, 99 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 2: I worked with the Roslind Carter Institute for Caregiving and 100 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 2: Blue Star Families where we had families that, you know, 101 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 2: young young women mostly who are caregivers, who are looking 102 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 2: at the next sixty eighty years with a husband who 103 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 2: had maybe no legs and they had children and what 104 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 2: does that look like now? And it was through that 105 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 2: experience that I then was inspired to get my law degree. 106 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 2: I felt like I needed more tools in my toolbox. 107 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 2: And that was when Matt sort of made the decision 108 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 2: to retire from the Marine Corps. And then we've had 109 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 2: this polarization and Jack Bergman here in our home and 110 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 2: you know, he didn't want to certify our elections. He 111 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 2: didn't want to investigate January sixth, and it was such 112 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 2: a betrayal to everything that we believed in. And so 113 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 2: for both of us, really it's a family effort. We 114 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 2: feel like this is just showing up again. 115 00:06:56,120 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: What do you take away from that to sawbody who's 116 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: in that low moment right. 117 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 3: Now, that when you. 118 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: Shared a few minutes ago, this point where you're having 119 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: a discussion with a gunnery sergeant in the United States 120 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: Marine Corps and Infantry gunnery sergeant, tough guy, not inclined 121 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: to ask for help this moment in the country, in 122 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: people's lives, there's a wisdom that comes from that that 123 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: seems pretty absent to me as a casual observer in 124 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: the Congress. That seems like a pretty important element that 125 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: somebody ought to be able to address and speak to. 126 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: There are people there that can, but not a lot. 127 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: I just I just wonder how that informs your candidacy, 128 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: That you came through that to a law degree, to 129 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: the precipice of the Democratic nomination for the first Congressional 130 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: district in Michigan with a real commitment to service. Just 131 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: take us like a little bit deeper if you. 132 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 2: Might, yes, thank you well. I think as a military family, 133 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 2: you know, one thing for us that was always uniting 134 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 2: is that we had each other's back, right it didn't. 135 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 2: You're not asking are you a Republican? Are you a Democrat? 136 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 2: Are you a libertarian? When you're jumping on a grenade 137 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 2: to save someone's life, when you're showing up to watch 138 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 2: a baby, when you're there for someone when the spouse 139 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:51,719 Speaker 2: is on deployment, you're there for them because because they're 140 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 2: an American, right, and because you're in this together, and 141 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 2: we are in this together. And if we decide we 142 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 2: can't work together, we won't and that's not democracy. And 143 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 2: you know, I think what we always remember is that 144 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 2: we have been great because of our differences, because of them, 145 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:14,839 Speaker 2: not despite them. Right. It's been being able to pull 146 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 2: in the skills and the strengths of people that are 147 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 2: different from us, that have made us a great nation, 148 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 2: and made us a great military, and made us as 149 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 2: strong as a people. And so I think what's always 150 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 2: been important for me, even in this moment we're living in, 151 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 2: is just to remember that Americanism has never been about perfection. 152 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:36,959 Speaker 2: It's been about progress. It's been about coming and working 153 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 2: together towards a goal and continuing to work again towards 154 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 2: it right. And sometimes I see this as like climbing 155 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 2: up a mountain. 156 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 3: Right. 157 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 2: It's not always easy, and it takes a step by 158 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:50,319 Speaker 2: step and sometimes you know, you got to take your breath. 159 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 2: It's not always a straight line. But we can't give 160 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 2: up on it because you know, when you reach that summit, 161 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 2: when you keep taking those steps, I mean, you reach 162 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 2: heights that human history has not seen. And I believe 163 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 2: in that. I still believe in that very strongly. And 164 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 2: I and I think we have to. I mean, I 165 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 2: look at my two young girls, you know, thirteen and 166 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 2: my youngest will be ten this month, and I feel 167 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 2: such a sense of responsibility because they have a dad. Right, 168 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 2: we have this opportunity, and to me, that's a that 169 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 2: opportunity is a responsibility. It's a responsibility because there are 170 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 2: those among us that have already given so much and 171 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 2: it's time for us to take that pack and push forward. 172 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: Does it stay a little bit more that Jack Bergman 173 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: was a marine? 174 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 2: Absolutely, absolutely it does. 175 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: Why don't you share with this audience who your opponent, 176 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: Jack Bergman is and why he is antithetical to everything 177 00:10:56,760 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 1: that you have talked about with such the Balquins thus 178 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 1: far right. 179 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 2: So he was a lieutenant general in the Marine Corps Reserves. 180 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:10,439 Speaker 2: He's a commercial airline pilot for many years. He's from Minnesota, 181 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:14,559 Speaker 2: I believe, originally and very famously has lived in Louisiana. 182 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 2: I think he owns like a hunting property in our 183 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 2: district and says that's his primary residence. But most importantly, 184 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 2: he didn't want to certify our elections. He didn't want 185 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 2: to investigate January sixth. And for you know, Matt and I, 186 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 2: when you when you bury our black and Brown Marines 187 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 2: and then you see a Confederate flag in our nation's capital, 188 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 2: that should that should strike outrage, and for that not 189 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 2: to be the case to me was against everything that 190 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 2: we have fought for. His divisiveness, his extremism, encouraging people 191 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 2: to be against each other and not towards something. And 192 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 2: so for me, you know, he's even he supported the 193 00:11:56,640 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 2: Tommy Tuberville blockade of military promotions. Being a military family, 194 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 2: I can tell you how hard that would be. Not 195 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 2: knowing where you're going to move or live, or where 196 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 2: your kids are going to go to school. You know, 197 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 2: military family readiness in general. When he votes against funding 198 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 2: for Ukraine. Even Mike Johnson said, right, I'd rather send 199 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 2: American bullets than American bodies. But he voted against that. 200 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 2: That's unconscionable to me. You know, he voted to not 201 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 2: adequately fund the VA. These are services that my husband 202 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 2: relies on and many families in our district. We have 203 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:33,199 Speaker 2: a very high veteran population, and so to me it's 204 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 2: just such a betrayal of his oath of office and 205 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 2: also trust I think is a veteran community. We need 206 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 2: to have each other's back, but also for the nation, 207 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 2: for the country. I mean, this is what we have 208 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 2: stood up to defend. 209 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: At the core of Americanism, of course, this idea eplura bazune. 210 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 3: Out of many one that we are. 211 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: A civilization, a nation bound together by shared history, shared pain, 212 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: shared ancestry, shared stories, which include our divisions, which include 213 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: our differences, which include our worst days and hour and 214 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 1: our and our greatest in our greatest moments. But at 215 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: the core, elementally foundationally cornerstone of the society is that 216 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: we choose our leaders in an election. And so I 217 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 1: just want to dispense with something up front. If you 218 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 1: lose the election in November, you will do. 219 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 2: What run again? 220 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 3: Right? Will you can see. 221 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: The election if you don't have enough votes to be 222 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: the winner of the election. 223 00:13:56,360 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, because that is what you do. And that's 224 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 2: that's the power of our election system. Like you're saying, 225 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 2: that's the cornerstone. It's that your your voice is your vote, 226 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 2: and so it's it's we have to acknowledge the vote, 227 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 2: which is the voice of our constituency. Are people here 228 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 2: and to deny that is to deny their voice, And 229 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 2: like you said, this is this is we the people, right, 230 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 2: That's that's the intention of our democracy. 231 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: So let's talk about your district and how you and 232 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: how you win this race and and what you need? Right, 233 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: you need resources, right, you need entergy. This is a 234 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: Republican district though that you're a Democrat running into district 235 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: it to polarize time. 236 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 3: Donald Trump is. 237 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: Going to win that district over Joe Biden substantially. How 238 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: are you going to do the toughest thing that people 239 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: have to do and politics, which is to win an 240 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: election going against the grain, which can absolutely be done, 241 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 1: and I think you can you can do it. But 242 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 1: take us inside what it's like to run in a 243 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: Republican district, and so take us inside the plan to 244 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: scale that mountain to meet that challenge. 245 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 2: Thank you, Well, that's right. I mean it's so for 246 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 2: one geographically, right, a huge district and a rural district. 247 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 2: And I think in our rural areas, it's really important 248 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 2: that we're running candidates who are from those districts because 249 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 2: I can tell you having shared experience is so very 250 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 2: very important, and you know it kind of I think 251 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 2: focuses your messaging on what's really important for the people 252 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 2: in your area, right, Like you can't plug and play 253 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 2: in these districts just going to find a Democrat somewhere 254 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 2: and say run up in northern Michigan, and that's going 255 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 2: to work. That's never going to work, right, And so 256 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 2: for our district when we look at it, there's a 257 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 2: lot of and I think this is true for many 258 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 2: rural areas. You know, there are folks here feel really 259 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 2: left behind, and I don't think that they're wrong and 260 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 2: feeling that way. And so a lot of it is 261 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 2: focused really on local kitchen table issues. It's it's housing, 262 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:30,239 Speaker 2: it's putting food on the table, it's childcare, it's healthcare. 263 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 2: You know, in my district alone, we're losing a hospital 264 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 2: in Ontanagan, a post office might be closing. We have, 265 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 2: you know, two hundred jobs we just lost a couple 266 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 2: months ago in another city here in our district. And 267 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 2: so recognizing and in speaking to those issues and saying, hey, look, 268 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 2: we don't have representation on the national level right now, 269 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 2: this is our seat. We need to bring our great 270 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 2: ideas as a rural community to Washington, d C. Because 271 00:16:57,840 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 2: we are going to be the ones that are going 272 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 2: to have solutions that uniquely work for us, not not 273 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 2: someone who's you know, trying to impeach the vice president, 274 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:11,679 Speaker 2: but voting against rural broadband internet, right because in my 275 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 2: district we still have a lot of areas that are 276 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 2: still getting rural broadband internet. You know, we've never had. Also, 277 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 2: I think it's important a woman on the general ballot 278 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 2: in the history of this district, and we're ready for that, 279 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:30,640 Speaker 2: especially right now when we have incredible it is incredible. 280 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 2: There's never been a woman on the general ballot for 281 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,919 Speaker 2: the first congressional race in Michigan for a major party. 282 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 2: But you know, and also at a time when we're 283 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 2: looking at women's rights, Bergmann co sponsored legislation that had 284 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:47,640 Speaker 2: zero exceptions, not even to save a woman's life. And 285 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 2: so we know that that is thankfully not a popular stance, 286 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:56,439 Speaker 2: and we know that that's been soundly rejected across the 287 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:59,639 Speaker 2: country and we're looking forward to that being again soundly 288 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 2: rejected did in our district. And so you know, and 289 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:06,159 Speaker 2: we have a high veteran population, so you know, he 290 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:10,400 Speaker 2: runs very much on this this. I'm a general marketing 291 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:13,880 Speaker 2: really and for me, it's it's really important to bring 292 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,239 Speaker 2: that back and to talk about Matt and I are 293 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 2: experiences as a military family and really taking care of 294 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 2: our own, you know, in our in our rural areas. 295 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 2: I mean, it's it is truly, you know, we rely 296 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 2: on each other because we are more isolated, and so 297 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 2: just bringing that back again, right, I mean, it's rejecting 298 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 2: this otherness that there's some evil person down the street 299 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 2: who you know, whatever the conspiracy theory is. I mean, 300 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 2: we know these people, right, I mean we I know 301 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 2: the judge downtown, right, he married Matt and I we 302 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:48,639 Speaker 2: we know the farmer, we know the person, and so 303 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 2: it's like we know each other, Okay, we we know 304 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 2: how we vote, we know each other, we're we're electing 305 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 2: a government to represent us, right, and so it's bringing 306 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 2: the macro to the micro and talking again about about 307 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 2: our issues locally and how those translate and needing a 308 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:09,679 Speaker 2: representative who's really representing us in Congress. And you know, 309 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 2: we need the tools to do that. That's paid media. 310 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 2: We have an older voting population, so you definitely need 311 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 2: to be on TV mailers, ones that my kids haven't 312 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:21,439 Speaker 2: you know, drawn faces on yet, which they did do 313 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 2: when I got those in the mail. You know, digital advertising, 314 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 2: all the tools. So we do need those. But what's 315 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 2: a great plug for our district is you know, we 316 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 2: have the cheapest media markets in the state and so 317 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 2: we can do a lot here to message. And I 318 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 2: think that's important because Michigan is, we know, a battleground 319 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 2: state here in twenty twenty four and getting out the 320 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 2: votes going to be really important. And so being able 321 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 2: to message in our district for the people here here 322 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 2: in a historic election, you know, that's going to support 323 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 2: the ballot too. You know, when we do have people here, 324 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,719 Speaker 2: we have a huge independent voting block. I think it's 325 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 2: about twenty two percent, so we do have people that 326 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 2: still split ticket vote that will strong libertarian streak will 327 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 2: look at the candidate and whether they like that candidate 328 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 2: or not. And so we have a we have a 329 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 2: path here. It's work, it's hard work. We do travel. 330 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 2: People like to see you, so you're always balancing fundraising 331 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 2: with those face to face you know, meetings, which are 332 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 2: really important. But it also means that we're doing meetings everywhere. Right, 333 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 2: I want to go to the Rotary Club, Kawanas, our 334 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 2: veteran groups. You know, you need to do outreach in 335 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 2: spaces where you might not be comfortable, but that's what 336 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 2: that's what's necessary. 337 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 1: A couple of questions about about your opponent. So last 338 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: summer I drove across the country. They drive four thousand 339 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,919 Speaker 1: miles up through the Upper Peninsula. And truly, if you 340 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 1: come across from. 341 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 4: Santa Barbara, California, Okay, up through California, Oregon, Washington, into 342 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 4: British Columbia, through Montana, through North Dakota. 343 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 1: Really not until you get into the Upper Peninsula that 344 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 1: you do lose completely. 345 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 3: You are off the grid right now, no internet, no 346 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 3: satellite radios. Talk about that infrastructure. 347 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: I imagine your opponent voted against all of the infrastructure 348 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: investment that would bring the first District of Michigan into 349 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: the twenty first century along with rural states like Montana 350 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 1: and North Dakota. 351 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, that's right, And I don't you know, 352 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 2: And that's another that's just another example of playing partisan 353 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 2: games at the national level while totally leaving behind your 354 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,679 Speaker 2: entire district and people who are looking. And the Internet 355 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,360 Speaker 2: is so foundational to so many things, right, if it's 356 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 2: kids going to school, if it's small businesses. I mean, 357 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 2: it's really integral to just being connected to the broader world. 358 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 2: And to me, to vote against that kind of funding 359 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 2: is really unbelievable. It's really unbelievable. I mean, this was right, 360 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,880 Speaker 2: the last technical revolution that we had was the Internet 361 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 2: and so and so we're still getting that right, and 362 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 2: we should have gotten this a long time ago. And 363 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 2: so it's I think to me that again, that kind 364 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 2: of extremism just it's not doing a service, not only 365 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 2: to the country, but very in particular to people in 366 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 2: our district. 367 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,639 Speaker 1: I want to say to everyone who is watching, like, uh, 368 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,160 Speaker 1: maybe you know, hopefully they've all watched the Warrant Law 369 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 1: and Order episode, right, and uh, you don't you don't 370 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: have to be a a super detective too right to 371 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 1: figure out a couple of things right about about your opponent. 372 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 1: And I imagine he also supports cutting Social Security and 373 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: Medicare benefits for seniors in the in the district, and. 374 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 2: He's discussed privatizing those right. And I have folks that 375 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 2: I talked to who are so scared, right, this is 376 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 2: their retirement plan and they're on fixed incomes and worried, 377 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 2: you know, what's going to happen to me? Will I 378 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,880 Speaker 2: be able to afford to continue to live where I live, 379 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 2: to eat what I eat? I mean, these are not 380 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:19,159 Speaker 2: inconsequential things. These have real life impacts on real people. 381 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 2: And I don't think I think Jack Bergman has forgotten that. 382 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 2: I think he's had fun playing a game and he's 383 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 2: forgotten people here and what those real life impacts look 384 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 2: like for people who are just trying to make it, 385 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:34,400 Speaker 2: just trying to make it every day. 386 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 1: Well, I was sorry about detective work. Another element of 387 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 1: that is how do you know when your congressman or 388 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 1: woman is truly next level terrible? And I'm going to 389 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 1: explain it to everybody who's watching this as somebody who's 390 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 1: been involved in politics for a long time with the 391 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 1: federal budget of the United States is one point six 392 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 1: trillion dollars. What that means is everyone is getting paid. 393 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 1: So if you live in a rural district and they're 394 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 1: shutting your post office and they're shutting your hospitals, that 395 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 1: means your person is on the pay no mind list, 396 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 1: they don't. They're completely ineffective. 397 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 3: Think about it. 398 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: Is it really a big deal in a big city 399 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 1: if you shut down one of the three hundred and 400 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: fifty post offices. 401 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 3: It's not right. 402 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 1: So when you have a chump congressman, that's what happens. 403 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 1: Let me ask you about him in the Great Lakes. 404 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 1: So one of the hallmarks of extreme maga is complete 405 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: in difference to the environment, the ecology, any weird plans 406 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 1: that anybody should know about to build a pipeline to Arizona, 407 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: to pump out the Great Lakes right to water starved 408 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 1: areas of the country, because they have all sorts of 409 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: these schemes that that are that are written about in 410 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,880 Speaker 1: all these policy books. So is he has he embraced 411 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 1: any of that stuff or has he been careful a lot. 412 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 2: That you know? I mean, he proclaims that he protects 413 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 2: our Great Lakes and out of the same you know, 414 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 2: out of the other corner of his mouth, wants to deregulate. 415 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 2: You know, the measures we have in place to protect them. 416 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 2: And you know, we have like one fifth of the 417 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 2: world's fresh water supply. And when we look even at 418 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 2: climate change right now and how that's going to impact 419 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 2: resource allocation, not just in the United States but globally, 420 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,959 Speaker 2: we really need to be paying attention to the protections 421 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:49,920 Speaker 2: that we have for the Great Lakes, not just not 422 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 2: just for our country, but but more broadly, right even 423 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 2: with Canada, Right, we've treaty there with our with our 424 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:59,640 Speaker 2: Great Lakes water. And you know, I this is where 425 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 2: I grew. I mean I was baptized in these lakes, right, Like, 426 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 2: this is our economy, it's our way of life, and 427 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 2: we have to be stewards of this right and make 428 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 2: sure that again we are protecting these and it's not 429 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 2: just for even our community here, but for the entire country, 430 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:18,959 Speaker 2: for the world. 431 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 1: Really take us inside the day of a candidate. What's it, 432 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:24,159 Speaker 1: what's it like? 433 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 3: From? 434 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 1: What time are you getting up, what time are you 435 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 1: hitting the hey, what is your day like? 436 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,360 Speaker 2: Well, I'll start with telling people and then I'll move 437 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 2: to what a day looks like. So, I mean I 438 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 2: when I first actually told my mom that I was 439 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:46,360 Speaker 2: thinking about doing this, and you know, she, I think, 440 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 2: was right away just so concerned for me, you know, 441 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:55,199 Speaker 2: what's going to happen, and this is very scary. And 442 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,399 Speaker 2: my grandma, who's ninety one, she was like, oh, I 443 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 2: just I don't know if I could ever listen, listen 444 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 2: into any of this. And I said, oh, well it's okay, 445 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 2: I'll be okay, Grandma, and she said, well, no, I'm 446 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 2: worried you might say something wrong. So her concern was 447 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:13,719 Speaker 2: a little different, right. And you know, for a lot 448 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 2: of my friends, you know, I mean they for people 449 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 2: who have known Matt and I, it made sense and 450 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 2: they were very supportive of our decision to do this. 451 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 2: Matt was all on board. I think he has always 452 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 2: found a lot of healing and advocacy, and for him 453 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 2: this was another battlefield that morally, this felt like the 454 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 2: right fight. And so for our nuclear family, this feels 455 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 2: very moral and it feels very mission oriented. And we 456 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 2: have support of our friends and in family, even if they, 457 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,680 Speaker 2: you know, sometimes can't believe we're doing this. I say, 458 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 2: we we need more normal ish people trying to do this. 459 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 2: I say normal ish. I won't claim entirely normal, but 460 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 2: but you know, it's it's it's true. I mean, it's 461 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 2: you know, we've we don't come from wealth, we don't 462 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 2: come from you know, a political family, and so all 463 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,719 Speaker 2: of this has been very new to us. But I 464 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:14,879 Speaker 2: think that matters, and I think that that representation that 465 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 2: we're going to bring matters. So what happens is, you know, 466 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:23,199 Speaker 2: we were endorsed by New Politics. They support candidates with 467 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 2: a history of service, who want to protect democracy, and 468 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 2: they were really great in those initial stages of helping me, 469 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 2: you know, build out a campaign team. I had contacted, 470 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 2: you know, I had Christy Pagan here in Michigan. She 471 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 2: helped me launch my campaign. And you know, the first 472 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 2: thing they do a lot of folks don't know this 473 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 2: is they'll say, okay, you're you decide on a Monday. 474 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 2: You're all fired up, and then Tuesday you're like, what 475 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 2: do I do? You know? I mean, what's actually the 476 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 2: next step? And so you start to kind of build 477 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 2: your consulting team and and then you have to make 478 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 2: a rolodex of everyone you've breathed on since birth. And 479 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 2: then they're like, right, call it, call it like you're 480 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 2: gonna ask them for money, and and you you're kind 481 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 2: of like, oh, and I'm a Midwesterner, Like we don't 482 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 2: even talk about money, and now I'm gonna call people 483 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 2: and ask them for money. And so you kind of 484 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 2: feel like your soul leaving your body a little bit. 485 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 2: And it's very humbling, but to spend, you know, and 486 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 2: you call and it's hours every day, right, hours of 487 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 2: just cold calling, and you know, you call like the 488 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 2: person you sat next to in eighth grade and they're 489 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:30,959 Speaker 2: just kind of waiting for the other shoe to drop right. 490 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 2: You're like, it's been a long time, how are you 491 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 2: And they're like she's selling right, a tampered chef, Like 492 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 2: what's happening? And then it's like, no, I you know, 493 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 2: I'm running for office. And those conversations sometimes are really surprising, 494 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 2: they're really great and you and you make these great 495 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 2: like connections again, and then other times it's like, you know, click, 496 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 2: don't call me again. But I think you know, you're 497 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 2: kind of you have to lean in, right. It's a 498 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 2: critique and reality of our system that it costs so 499 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 2: much money to run. But if you're serious. You have 500 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 2: to do that, and we are serious, and so you know, 501 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 2: I'm spending. So this kind of gets into my normal day, 502 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 2: which is, you know, I get up with my kids 503 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 2: and we get them ready for school, drop them off. 504 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 2: I come home. I'm on the phones for several hours. 505 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 2: If we have an event, then I get ready, I 506 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 2: go to the event, then I come home, and then 507 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 2: often I'm answering emails, writing thank you notes. I think 508 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 2: it's important to be to be thankful for people who 509 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 2: join your cause. And it's and it's on repeat. I mean, 510 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 2: we're looking at probably twelve fourteen hour days most days. 511 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 2: I try to take some time with my kids on 512 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 2: the on the weekend, and it is it can be 513 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 2: tough dealing with a lot of the criticisms that you get. 514 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 2: But I do live with a thirteen year old, so 515 00:30:55,520 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 2: I would say I have some experience already with being criticism. 516 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 2: So that's all right, but you know, it matters, and 517 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 2: you know, often sometimes even when it gets tiring, you 518 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 2: think about kind of what you pointed to, the foundational 519 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 2: experiences that Matt and I have had, and sometimes when 520 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 2: I've had a hard day, you know, Matt and I 521 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 2: will just remind each other of the folks that we've 522 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 2: loved who aren't here to do this fight, and every 523 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 2: day it gets you up the next day. 524 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 1: What I want to say to everybody who's watching this 525 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 1: is we'll talk in a second about a couple of issues, 526 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 1: but the collapse that we're seeing in American life is 527 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 1: very much bound up in the destruction of the importance 528 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 1: of character public character. And what you're seeing here is 529 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: a person of high quality and high character needs your help, 530 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 1: needs your support. You all need to be involved, and 531 00:31:56,480 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 1: you need to be involved by helping her the money 532 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 1: that he needs to throw out of office somebody who 533 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 1: should not be there because they denied an election result 534 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 1: and tried to overthrow the government. A Marine Corps lieutenant 535 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 1: general that denies the result of an election, which is 536 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 1: really foundational to the Constitution. He supposedly spent his entire 537 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 1: life in service of defense of It's a very big deal. 538 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 1: And so this election in the first District of Michigan 539 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 1: is a very big deal. It's a big deal election. 540 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 1: And the truth of the matter is she will not 541 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 1: get the help she needs from the d Triple C 542 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 1: and all of the Washington d C. Committees because she 543 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:59,959 Speaker 1: is an outsider, and outsiders need the help of ordinary, 544 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 1: very people to make it under the capitol, because you 545 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 1: want at least a couple people there, which is clearly 546 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 1: evident to me from this conversation that are odd by 547 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 1: the institution and what it stands for. And so it's 548 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 1: really important to support candidates like Cali Borch. So, Cali, 549 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 1: why don't you tell people how they can give support 550 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 1: to you, how they can get involved in the campaign. 551 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:27,959 Speaker 3: And all of that. 552 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Yes, please, I mean, I, like 553 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,960 Speaker 2: I said, it's a critique, but it's a reality that 554 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 2: we need help. And you know, I think it's important 555 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 2: to remember that we're always building, and so investing in 556 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 2: an area, especially in our rural areas, is very important 557 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 2: because we're building the infrastructure and the coalitions that we 558 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 2: need to take this seat, and especially in a pivotal 559 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 2: time twenty twenty four, during these election cycle where I 560 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 2: feel very much like our democracy is an inflection point. 561 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 2: And so please go to my website. It's Cali C A. L. 562 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:10,319 Speaker 2: L I. E. For f o rcongress dot com. You 563 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 2: can donate there, that would be wonderful. We also have 564 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:18,760 Speaker 2: our mailing address there for folks who like to send checks, 565 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 2: and all of that helps us to have the staff 566 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 2: that we need on our campaign team and also to 567 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 2: do the paid messaging that will be really important in 568 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 2: our in our very broad and vast district, you know. 569 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,359 Speaker 2: And then we also have a volunteer link on our 570 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 2: website where you can sign up to volunteer, and we 571 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 2: love having volunteers. We have volunteers who do all kinds 572 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:44,399 Speaker 2: of things, write postcards, some people knockdoors. Some people don't 573 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,280 Speaker 2: want to knockdoors, right, but there's an opportunity for anyone 574 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 2: who wants to help out, to help us in this 575 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,279 Speaker 2: in this cause, and I want to thank you very 576 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 2: very much. 577 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 1: One of the greatest lives in American politics is that 578 00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,319 Speaker 1: there are no good people to choose from. It is 579 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,839 Speaker 1: not true. Here is an exceptional one. And the way 580 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 1: we put exceptional people into the Congress is by making 581 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 1: sure they get the support they need. The reason that 582 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,359 Speaker 1: Cali Barr has to spend the amount of time she 583 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 1: does raising money to compete to have a voice in 584 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 1: Congress for the people is because there's brokenness in the system. 585 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 3: Because the system sucks. 586 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,319 Speaker 1: Right in a lot of ways, but in order to 587 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,920 Speaker 1: change the system, you have to play the game. You 588 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,800 Speaker 1: have to win the game. The reason I asked Cali 589 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 1: Barr to be on this program today is because she 590 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:39,280 Speaker 1: can win this election against a guy who has betrayed 591 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,719 Speaker 1: his oath, betrayed the Marine Corps, betrayed his country, and 592 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 1: he did it for Donald Trump. 593 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 3: He's a low man. He's a dishonorable man. 594 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:52,360 Speaker 1: He's a dishonest man, and the American people deserve sitting 595 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 1: under that dome. People who are optimistic about the future, 596 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,239 Speaker 1: who are competent, have character and able. This is one 597 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 1: of them. Support this person, and as we share this 598 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 1: clip around, help her raise the money so she has 599 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,960 Speaker 1: everything that she needs over the next one hundred and 600 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:16,799 Speaker 1: eighty days to beat a seditious lieutenant general. And you 601 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:22,359 Speaker 1: ought to know his name. It's not Michael Flynn. He's 602 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 1: not alone. Plenty of people out there who have betrayed 603 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,319 Speaker 1: the country in the last couple of years. The way 604 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,400 Speaker 1: we get through this is hire people to fix it 605 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:38,359 Speaker 1: who put the country first by word. Indeed, and I'll 606 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 1: tell you this, if John McCain were still around, he'd 607 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,279 Speaker 1: like Cali Barr be all four. 608 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,759 Speaker 3: Think about that. Cali Barr for Congress. 609 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:48,920 Speaker 2: Thank you, Steve. 610 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:51,240 Speaker 3: I'm Steve Schmidt. 611 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 1: This is the warning and I invite you to join. 612 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:58,319 Speaker 1: Subscribe on our substack, on our YouTube channel, follow us. 613 00:36:58,520 --> 00:36:59,719 Speaker 3: Welcome to the community.