WEBVTT - Thinking Sideways: Disappearance of the USS Cyclops 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:04.480 Thinking Sideways is not supported by aperture Science. Instead, it's 0:00:04.480 --> 0:00:07.400 supported by the generous donations of our listeners on Patreon. 0:00:07.600 --> 0:00:10.440 Visit patreon dot com slash thinking sideways to learn more 0:00:10.720 --> 0:00:21.360 and thanks Thinking Sideways. I don't under you never know 0:00:26.120 --> 0:00:28.760 stories of things we simply don't know the answer too. 0:00:31.120 --> 0:00:35.320 Hey there, welcome to another episode of Thinking Sideways. I'm Joe, 0:00:36.159 --> 0:00:40.600 joined as always by Devin and Steve, and if you 0:00:40.720 --> 0:00:42.920 are not familiar with us, every week we get together 0:00:42.960 --> 0:00:47.720 and solve another really cool mystery. Right, No, we solve them. 0:00:47.720 --> 0:00:49.800 Oh yeah, we saw them. Yeah, I mean we solve 0:00:49.880 --> 0:00:55.360 them of course. Yeah. Yeah. We use our amazing powers 0:00:55.400 --> 0:00:58.200 of ratios and nation to deduce the answers. Or we 0:00:58.280 --> 0:00:59.880 just that was a really big word that I don't understand, 0:00:59.880 --> 0:01:02.120 so let's just go yeah, or we just tortured the 0:01:02.200 --> 0:01:04.520 data intel what confesses. But you know, one way or 0:01:04.520 --> 0:01:07.400 the other we get our answer. Okay, let's talk about 0:01:07.600 --> 0:01:10.920 this week history. Uh, this week we're going to talk 0:01:10.920 --> 0:01:15.720 about the cyclops yea, and by that I don't mean 0:01:15.760 --> 0:01:18.200 the huge Harry dude with an eyeball in his forehead 0:01:18.520 --> 0:01:22.280 Cyclops Harry um depends on the version. Yeah there were 0:01:22.319 --> 0:01:25.080 a lot of different versions of Are you're thinking of 0:01:25.120 --> 0:01:30.600 the Sinbad version, the old sixties movie or no, not 0:01:30.640 --> 0:01:34.280 that one. That's only one of them. Yeah, this is 0:01:34.760 --> 0:01:38.440 actually had to deal with the Cyclops she's talking about. Yeah, 0:01:38.480 --> 0:01:40.560 and he he was kind of clever about he just 0:01:40.600 --> 0:01:43.840 poked his eye out after that, he was about his 0:01:43.920 --> 0:01:50.000 mercy him pretty much. Okay, let's talk about our cyclops. 0:01:50.080 --> 0:01:53.280 Different one. We're talking about the U. S. S Cyclops, 0:01:53.920 --> 0:01:57.040 which some of you may may have heard about. This 0:01:57.160 --> 0:01:59.440 was a huge deal way back in the day when 0:01:59.440 --> 0:02:01.560 it happened, and then it sort of went away, and 0:02:01.560 --> 0:02:04.960 then it sort of made a comeback, as mysteries go. Yeah, 0:02:05.640 --> 0:02:07.560 there's a reason for that also. I'll explain that a 0:02:07.600 --> 0:02:10.680 little bit. But the Cyclops was a coal carrying ship 0:02:10.760 --> 0:02:12.640 that was built for the U. S. Navy in the 0:02:12.680 --> 0:02:15.840 early nineteenth century. I think it was actually launched in 0:02:15.919 --> 0:02:19.640 nineteen ten, but it didn't get commissioned into the navy seventeen. 0:02:20.040 --> 0:02:25.560 But on March fourth, the USS Cyclops left Barbados for Baltimore, 0:02:25.600 --> 0:02:30.240 Maryland with three six crew and passages on board and 0:02:30.280 --> 0:02:36.280 a load of manganese or and it vanished without a trace. Yep, 0:02:37.760 --> 0:02:41.120 it was it near Bermuda. They did, They did go 0:02:41.160 --> 0:02:43.720 through the Bermudi triangle. As a matter of fact, there 0:02:43.760 --> 0:02:46.160 were a lot of people theorizing about that. But yeah, 0:02:46.160 --> 0:02:49.720 there was no radio distress call. No wreckage at all 0:02:49.880 --> 0:02:51.560 was ever found, not even an oil slick on the 0:02:51.560 --> 0:02:56.120 water they searched for it. Ever, Well, somebody did claim 0:02:56.120 --> 0:02:57.840 in nineteen twenty two have found the wreckage of a 0:02:57.880 --> 0:03:02.400 lifeboat that had us like us Cyclo stanciled on it. 0:03:02.400 --> 0:03:05.600 And he claimed, but that's something that's obviously a boat 0:03:05.600 --> 0:03:11.360 called the Cyclo and not the cyclops. So yeah, yeah, 0:03:11.400 --> 0:03:14.400 but yeah, it's the thing about it is, it's a 0:03:14.480 --> 0:03:17.720 It was a large ship, five forty two ft long, big, 0:03:17.880 --> 0:03:22.280 the big ship, and the ship that size doesn't just sink, 0:03:22.440 --> 0:03:24.760 you know, I mean, it takes a while usually. I 0:03:24.760 --> 0:03:27.080 mean the Titanic, which was even bigger, of course, but 0:03:27.120 --> 0:03:30.440 it had a catastrophic collision, catastrophic damage, and it still 0:03:30.440 --> 0:03:34.400 took hours to sink. And yet this thing thanks so 0:03:34.560 --> 0:03:36.920 quickly or else it was beamed up to a spaceship, 0:03:37.400 --> 0:03:40.160 it seems to have. If it sunk, sunk so quickly 0:03:40.160 --> 0:03:42.120 nobody got a chance to run to the radio and 0:03:42.240 --> 0:03:45.000 get the help button, yeah, or launch the lifeboats or 0:03:45.040 --> 0:03:48.360 anything anything like that. Yeah, so that's where the mystery is. 0:03:48.920 --> 0:03:50.520 Normally at this point in the story, i'd stop and 0:03:50.560 --> 0:03:54.040 thanks somebody for suggesting it. But but actually there was 0:03:54.080 --> 0:03:56.440 no suggestion. So I had to put on my internet 0:03:56.440 --> 0:04:00.600 boots and go out and find this mystery myself, honest word. Yeah, 0:04:00.640 --> 0:04:02.960 And it was on a page with the heading tendisterious 0:04:03.000 --> 0:04:05.560 Disappearance is so creepy you'll wet your pants. Actually, think 0:04:05.600 --> 0:04:09.880 I've watched that YouTube video. Yeah, I gotta tell you. 0:04:09.920 --> 0:04:13.600 I mean I spent more time perusing pages like this. 0:04:13.680 --> 0:04:15.800 I think I've seen every single page that has a 0:04:15.840 --> 0:04:19.160 heading like this tend Mysterious murders or stint Downstairs. I've 0:04:19.160 --> 0:04:21.320 seen every single one of them, which is pretty creative. 0:04:21.320 --> 0:04:25.000 Thought your pants. Yeah, yeah, there was another one that's 0:04:25.040 --> 0:04:28.960 like evill slowly or drawers. Yeah, some variationally, you know. 0:04:29.000 --> 0:04:31.600 I mean, it's true, like we've talked about, I watched 0:04:31.600 --> 0:04:34.479 the we watched those videos at my house on YouTube, 0:04:34.480 --> 0:04:36.279 and I think we've kind of hit a point where 0:04:36.279 --> 0:04:39.320 I'm like, have we seen this one? And he's like yeah, 0:04:39.360 --> 0:04:41.760 like five times, and I'm like, well, it's less than 0:04:41.800 --> 0:04:47.560 most of them. So let's watch this one. Okay, Yeah, yeah, 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:49.560 they're good. I mean, they're good fodder. But you know, 0:04:49.560 --> 0:04:51.880 at this point we've covered a lot of them. Yeah, 0:04:51.880 --> 0:04:54.359 we really have. We're gonna have to start making stuff 0:04:54.440 --> 0:04:57.800 up here, pretty good. The disappearance of the Cyclops was 0:04:57.839 --> 0:05:00.839 a pretty big deal at the time. I think well 0:05:00.880 --> 0:05:03.839 over ten years it was. All kinds of articles were 0:05:03.839 --> 0:05:07.039 being written, tons of speculation, and a lot of theories 0:05:07.040 --> 0:05:12.039 have been floated, ranging from a giant octopus, Bermuda triangle, 0:05:12.080 --> 0:05:20.320 Shenanigan's mutiny, murder, treason. You both it down. I stopped 0:05:20.320 --> 0:05:24.000 after the second one. I realized I didn't have anything else. All, Right, 0:05:24.040 --> 0:05:26.760 back to it, you guys be serious now, sorry, Yeah, 0:05:27.080 --> 0:05:30.599 so I'm gonna go back to the beginning. The Cyclops 0:05:30.720 --> 0:05:32.880 was one of four ships built for the Navy in 0:05:32.920 --> 0:05:36.080 a very limited class. It was called the Proteus class. Uh. 0:05:36.279 --> 0:05:39.240 They were built the Hall coal for refueling US warships 0:05:39.320 --> 0:05:42.640 because this was before the transition to oil, and and 0:05:42.680 --> 0:05:45.080 that's a that's a big problem in war when you 0:05:45.279 --> 0:05:49.679 run on coal is delivering coal, you don't have fuel, 0:05:49.760 --> 0:05:53.120 Your warships can't fight, can't do a lot. Believe it 0:05:53.200 --> 0:05:55.719 or not. That's not how it works. It is, so 0:05:55.800 --> 0:05:58.400 you basically have to have a big You gotta get 0:05:58.440 --> 0:06:02.200 a big tanker. He used to run around and deliver 0:06:02.279 --> 0:06:05.120 cold everybody. Yeah, and that's what they did. Obviously, it's 0:06:05.400 --> 0:06:07.520 better in these days we have nuclear reactors and fun 0:06:07.560 --> 0:06:09.920 stuff like that. Oh yeah, because those are so much better. 0:06:10.839 --> 0:06:13.279 Or as the captain of my cruise ship used to say, 0:06:13.279 --> 0:06:16.599 they just have an electric cord. Yeah that plugs in 0:06:16.680 --> 0:06:20.440 in Miami, just goes along the floor. Yeah, I mean 0:06:20.480 --> 0:06:23.640 the ocean the Bahamas aren't that far. Yeah, the ocean 0:06:25.160 --> 0:06:27.359 that long of extension cord like the home depot or 0:06:27.360 --> 0:06:33.040 something together. Remember when you plug them together though the tie. 0:06:33.560 --> 0:06:38.000 Well that's what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, is that not true? 0:06:38.120 --> 0:06:41.520 Was he lying to me? He wasn't lying to you. 0:06:41.880 --> 0:06:44.920 Uh oh where was I? Oh? Yeah. The other ships 0:06:44.920 --> 0:06:48.200 in the class were named Proteus, Jupiter, and near Us. 0:06:49.080 --> 0:06:51.000 Uh And in a fun fact, every ship in this 0:06:51.040 --> 0:06:53.520 class came to a bad end. And this was not 0:06:53.560 --> 0:06:58.440 a good design. Well maybe not, I don't know. Anyway, 0:06:58.320 --> 0:07:02.960 the Cyclops displaced andeen thousands, six hundred seventy tons that's loaded. 0:07:03.400 --> 0:07:06.320 So that was a big ship. Also mentioned the captain 0:07:06.320 --> 0:07:08.280 of the Cyclops because he was kind of a character 0:07:08.440 --> 0:07:10.440 and he figures in a few of the theories about 0:07:10.480 --> 0:07:15.520 what happened to the Cyclops. His name was George Worley. 0:07:15.640 --> 0:07:18.600 He was German by birth and rumored rumored to b 0:07:18.680 --> 0:07:20.960 pro German. And did I mentioned this was during World 0:07:21.000 --> 0:07:24.240 War One? Yeah? I mean you mentioned the year, but 0:07:24.320 --> 0:07:29.720 some of us don't like automatically. Yeah, okay, so yeah, 0:07:29.920 --> 0:07:33.280 and uh, Worley was not his original name. More on 0:07:33.360 --> 0:07:36.200 that later. But as far as the Navy knew, he 0:07:36.240 --> 0:07:38.920 was George Worley and he had been born in San Francisco. 0:07:39.080 --> 0:07:41.240 At this point in time, they found out their background 0:07:41.320 --> 0:07:44.960 checks were maybe not the best. No, really no, but 0:07:45.040 --> 0:07:47.840 Captain Worley was not well liked by his crew. He 0:07:47.880 --> 0:07:50.160 had some strange habits, apparently, like walking around in his 0:07:50.200 --> 0:07:53.200 long underwear wearing a bowler hat carrying a cane. Is 0:07:53.200 --> 0:07:56.480 that not a thing that people like? I guess people 0:07:56.480 --> 0:07:58.360 thought it was weird. I guess I'll go put some 0:07:58.400 --> 0:08:02.120 clothes on, hold on it. Yeah, sorry, guys. Yeah, I 0:08:02.120 --> 0:08:04.000 don't know if he did that all the time. I 0:08:04.080 --> 0:08:07.520 have a feeling that the bowler had long underwear. Instance, 0:08:08.440 --> 0:08:11.360 was at one of the times that he was medicinally 0:08:11.560 --> 0:08:18.440 taking sherry in great quantities, taking sure did. Actually, he 0:08:18.960 --> 0:08:23.000 defended himself once in court by saying, the crew get 0:08:23.080 --> 0:08:28.440 upset because I take sherry for medicinal reasons. Well, he 0:08:28.560 --> 0:08:31.800 was known for being drunk and disorderly. Yeah, that's what 0:08:31.880 --> 0:08:35.160 the crew accused him of. But actually he said in 0:08:35.559 --> 0:08:38.680 the hearing about this, he said that he had to 0:08:38.960 --> 0:08:42.720 He had had berry berry apparently previously, and he still 0:08:43.040 --> 0:08:45.679 had problems associated with that, and so he had to 0:08:45.720 --> 0:08:50.160 take a couple of different medicines to come to come this. Spoilers, Wait, spoilers, 0:08:50.280 --> 0:08:55.040 because right, the crew disappeared forever. Yeah, right, everybody, everybody, 0:08:55.120 --> 0:08:57.840 everybody disappeared forever. So like, why how did they do 0:08:57.920 --> 0:08:59.920 an interview with him? This is a this is three 0:09:00.000 --> 0:09:03.160 previous the voyage that the ship disappears on. This happened. 0:09:03.760 --> 0:09:08.319 This happened in August. He came back. Yeah, they all 0:09:08.320 --> 0:09:10.320 came back in the dead. But that's like that guy 0:09:10.400 --> 0:09:14.200 recently who got caught drunk driving a truck and said, no, 0:09:14.280 --> 0:09:17.600 I have that disease where my body metabolizes food as alcohol. 0:09:18.920 --> 0:09:20.760 Were like, I mean, that's the thing people do have that. 0:09:20.800 --> 0:09:22.720 There are people that had that, but I maybe like, 0:09:22.760 --> 0:09:25.080 if you have that, maybe don't be a truck driver. Yeah, 0:09:25.120 --> 0:09:28.360 that's it. That's not not a good excuse. Yeah, it's 0:09:28.400 --> 0:09:30.280 similar to me. That would be I mean, in a way, 0:09:30.320 --> 0:09:32.240 that would be a really cool disease to have. At 0:09:32.280 --> 0:09:33.719 the same time, it would be it would kind of 0:09:35.120 --> 0:09:37.199 But no, this guy he was he was not like 0:09:37.360 --> 0:09:39.160 by his crew at all. He was like, oh no, 0:09:39.200 --> 0:09:40.959 But anyway, back to the show. He didn't take the 0:09:41.000 --> 0:09:44.079 sherry for medicinal purposes, but apparently the stuff that he 0:09:44.120 --> 0:09:47.200 had to take for his symptoms was so foul that 0:09:47.240 --> 0:09:48.959 he had to mix it in with alcohol to make 0:09:48.960 --> 0:09:51.760 it more palatable, and so that's why. So that was 0:09:51.840 --> 0:09:54.199 his big excuse. Apparently that was enough to get him by. 0:09:54.520 --> 0:09:56.400 But he still loved to chew people out. Oh yeah, 0:09:56.520 --> 0:09:58.280 yeah he did. He did. He had to chew people out. 0:09:59.480 --> 0:10:02.440 Apparently sometimes got kind of violent. At the Official Board 0:10:02.480 --> 0:10:06.800 of Inquiry in August nine, forty crewman had signed a 0:10:06.800 --> 0:10:10.360 petition accusing him of being drunk, foul mouthed, and unfit 0:10:10.400 --> 0:10:13.719 for command. That the ACCUSI was chasing an enstant named G. G. 0:10:13.880 --> 0:10:19.640 McCain around the boat with a pistol one time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:10:19.840 --> 0:10:23.440 So he was an interesting character. And this of course 0:10:23.520 --> 0:10:25.719 was sort of after the fact, after the disappearance, but 0:10:25.800 --> 0:10:28.760 the U. S. Council in Barbados, and a guy named 0:10:28.840 --> 0:10:32.320 Charles Livingston wrote a telegram to the State Department that 0:10:32.360 --> 0:10:35.080 there had been a quote disturbance unquote on the ship 0:10:35.160 --> 0:10:39.319 before had it had arrived in Barbados, perhaps a mutiny, 0:10:39.400 --> 0:10:41.840 and he said that the miniment can find the quarters 0:10:41.840 --> 0:10:44.640 and that would have been executed. Although that on the ship, 0:10:44.920 --> 0:10:48.319 well there it appears that there might have been a 0:10:48.360 --> 0:10:52.640 little confusion about that. They took on five prisoners in Rio. Yeah, 0:10:52.720 --> 0:10:55.839 and and three of those had been three of those 0:10:55.840 --> 0:10:58.280 have been accused of committee murder on another U. S. Warship. 0:10:58.800 --> 0:11:00.760 They were being taken back, and on them was to 0:11:00.920 --> 0:11:03.800 be executed. You had already apparently been convicted by a 0:11:03.880 --> 0:11:07.119 Navy board, I think, and so he was to be executed. 0:11:07.160 --> 0:11:09.600 So that might be where the confusions said. I don't think. 0:11:09.600 --> 0:11:12.160 I don't think that war actually executed. No, no, I 0:11:12.200 --> 0:11:14.320 don't know that worly executed anybody. But you and I, 0:11:14.400 --> 0:11:16.880 Joe were talking about this earlier. Some stuff I had 0:11:16.880 --> 0:11:19.840 found was that this was not the first time that 0:11:19.880 --> 0:11:22.480 Worley had been in hot water, and that he had 0:11:22.520 --> 0:11:25.880 been If we're saying that this was a would we 0:11:25.880 --> 0:11:27.840 call what was going on here? This was a complaint, 0:11:27.840 --> 0:11:30.600 not a mutiny? Right? Yeah? Okay, Well there had evidently 0:11:30.640 --> 0:11:34.160 been a mutiny slash complaint at sea, whenever you want 0:11:34.160 --> 0:11:38.560 to call it, and somebody had been beheaded under his 0:11:38.720 --> 0:11:42.280 command on the boat, and he was never fingered for 0:11:42.360 --> 0:11:46.360 being the one who committed the act, but it was 0:11:46.679 --> 0:11:50.720 believed that it was at his direction, whether that was 0:11:50.800 --> 0:11:55.080 directly saying cut his head off or indirectly. So like 0:11:55.280 --> 0:11:59.000 he he really was kind of a tyrant, and people 0:11:59.080 --> 0:12:02.120 died under his command and he was he's a bit 0:12:02.120 --> 0:12:04.680 of a nutter. Yeah, it sounds like in his in 0:12:04.760 --> 0:12:07.080 his defense, he was in a tough position because he 0:12:07.120 --> 0:12:09.120 was running a big ship that has crew like two 0:12:09.520 --> 0:12:14.320 thirty six, and almost everybody in his crew was young 0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:18.640 and inexperienced to me, because there was so much recruit Yeah, 0:12:18.720 --> 0:12:21.040 they weren't. They weren't regular navy men. So I will 0:12:21.080 --> 0:12:24.560 give you that. I can understand were reservist didn't who 0:12:24.600 --> 0:12:27.320 just suddenly got called up because of the war. Yeah, 0:12:27.400 --> 0:12:30.120 and shoved onto this boat. And so from Warley's point 0:12:30.160 --> 0:12:32.280 of view, he's an experienced captain and everybody under him 0:12:32.280 --> 0:12:34.599 was kind of an inexperienced and incompetent. I mean, I 0:12:34.800 --> 0:12:38.679 can imagine its frustration. Yeah, yeah, And I guess it's also, 0:12:38.960 --> 0:12:41.240 you know, plausible that the crews that he would have 0:12:41.280 --> 0:12:43.320 been used to working with would have been used to 0:12:43.480 --> 0:12:47.320 taking orders and maybe if you're just kind of a 0:12:47.360 --> 0:12:49.920 young reserve guy, you're not so used to that. And 0:12:50.000 --> 0:12:52.320 so you know when your captain says do this, and 0:12:52.360 --> 0:12:55.160 you're like, well, I don't know, he's kind of a jerk, yeah, 0:12:55.320 --> 0:12:59.880 you know, versus like, yes, sir, whatever, sir. You see 0:12:59.880 --> 0:13:01.720 that in jobs too, so that if you're if you're 0:13:01.760 --> 0:13:05.400 hauling your coal ship, all you do is run around 0:13:05.400 --> 0:13:10.120 in hall coal that is a wet, dirty, cruddy, unforgiving. 0:13:10.280 --> 0:13:14.280 Jobs are going to run high. Not the most glamorous 0:13:14.320 --> 0:13:16.559 job in the navy. Although on the plus side, and 0:13:16.640 --> 0:13:18.400 you're not writing the miss in the heat of battle 0:13:18.400 --> 0:13:21.120 all the time, there's a benefit right there. And you're 0:13:21.120 --> 0:13:23.120 still in a little bit of danger because obviously you're 0:13:23.160 --> 0:13:25.560 a viable target. Somebody might just decide to sink you 0:13:25.640 --> 0:13:29.000 because obviously if you deprived the battleships of their coal, 0:13:29.160 --> 0:13:33.880 and hey, that that accomplishes something, right there. Yeah, Okay, 0:13:33.920 --> 0:13:36.280 let's get back to our story. Let's talk about their 0:13:36.280 --> 0:13:38.520 final mission. And of course it wasn't supposed to be 0:13:38.559 --> 0:13:43.480 their final mission. It turned out it was to leave 0:13:43.520 --> 0:13:46.520 the Chesapeake Bay go to the South Atlantic to Rio 0:13:46.600 --> 0:13:50.800 de Janeiro, Brazil, to fuel British warships. And the plan 0:13:50.920 --> 0:13:53.680 wasn't they would pick up a little manganese or to 0:13:53.800 --> 0:13:57.400 take back to the United States. Yeah, very sweet. And 0:13:57.480 --> 0:13:59.920 they left Rio apparently, and there's there's a little bit 0:13:59.920 --> 0:14:02.120 of infusion about this where they whether they picked it 0:14:02.200 --> 0:14:05.320 up in Rio or they picked it up in Bahia, Brazil. 0:14:06.040 --> 0:14:08.440 Um the most most of the things that I see 0:14:08.480 --> 0:14:12.120 say they picked it up in Rio. Eleven thousand tons, 0:14:12.240 --> 0:14:14.400 which by the way, is more than the ship was 0:14:14.440 --> 0:14:17.559 designed to carry. Yeah, they're they're covering a higher load 0:14:17.600 --> 0:14:21.000 than rated for. Yeah. Yeah, well were they how much more? 0:14:21.440 --> 0:14:24.680 I have heard anywhere between eight thousand and nine hundred 0:14:25.160 --> 0:14:27.840 fair amount? Yeah, yeah, And the said yeah, nine six 0:14:27.920 --> 0:14:31.000 hundred tons, and so yeah, they're well over anywhere from 0:14:31.000 --> 0:14:34.080 ten more than they were supposed to. Yeah, we're not 0:14:34.120 --> 0:14:37.520 talking Yeah, We're not talking like just a mirror. Hundred tons, yeah, 0:14:37.760 --> 0:14:43.200 a substantial amount. Also, they took on seventy three passengers 0:14:43.200 --> 0:14:45.400 who were sailors and marines from the South season, who 0:14:45.440 --> 0:14:48.920 are also equivalent to about a hundred tons. Yeah. When 0:14:49.000 --> 0:14:51.720 you talk about all those guys and at all the 0:14:51.760 --> 0:14:53.760 extra food and water that you're gonna have to feed 0:14:53.840 --> 0:14:58.080 them with soot, you know. Yeah, then they stay to 0:14:58.320 --> 0:15:01.760 sail to Bahia in Brazil. And I'm not sure why 0:15:01.840 --> 0:15:07.240 they went there, but they went there because why wouldn't you, Brazil, 0:15:07.320 --> 0:15:10.120 Let's go have some fun. You know, you're on a 0:15:10.120 --> 0:15:16.239 boat with a lot of dudes free weeks. A thing 0:15:16.840 --> 0:15:18.560 I got to find out at that Martin Moules. You 0:15:18.560 --> 0:15:22.600 ever heard men by Martin Mule? So they departed for 0:15:22.720 --> 0:15:26.160 Baltimore if every nineteen eighteen, And by the way, the 0:15:26.160 --> 0:15:29.280 starboard engine was out. They had a crack cylinder head, 0:15:29.440 --> 0:15:33.360 which meant that they when you only have one screw, 0:15:33.400 --> 0:15:36.440 that's going to greatly reduce your speed. It was it 0:15:36.520 --> 0:15:40.600 was only able to do what two thirty miles a day? 0:15:40.680 --> 0:15:42.400 I think that equates. It was like two hundred two 0:15:42.840 --> 0:15:45.080 five miles a day. And that wasn't something that could 0:15:45.080 --> 0:15:49.040 have been fixed in Brazil. Apparently they looked at it 0:15:49.040 --> 0:15:51.840 there and then and they decided that it should go back, 0:15:51.880 --> 0:15:53.960 so I should go back to the US to be repaired. 0:15:54.160 --> 0:15:58.640 I believe it was a cracked piston, as a crack cylinder. 0:15:58.680 --> 0:16:01.560 I've heard it was cylinder act manifold or non man 0:16:01.760 --> 0:16:04.040 so maybe something that had to be in dry dock 0:16:04.160 --> 0:16:06.920 for and that you wouldn't you'd have to offload all 0:16:07.000 --> 0:16:09.520 of them. You wouldn't just weld it together. They probably 0:16:09.560 --> 0:16:11.560 bring in a whole new piece. Yeah, I don't. I 0:16:11.600 --> 0:16:14.360 don't know that it required actual engine replacement. I mean 0:16:14.400 --> 0:16:16.560 it's possible if it's just like a cylinder head, they 0:16:16.600 --> 0:16:18.520 might have just been able to replace it without even 0:16:18.600 --> 0:16:20.720 dry docking it. But I don't know. But I doubt 0:16:20.760 --> 0:16:25.000 that they had that custom part. I probably haven't, and 0:16:25.120 --> 0:16:27.560 it might might well have been to that the Navy 0:16:27.640 --> 0:16:30.560 was going to hurry to get their manganese which there, 0:16:31.000 --> 0:16:33.640 and so they decided rather than waiting, we'll just send 0:16:33.720 --> 0:16:35.560 me to sea with one motor, or ex sees me 0:16:35.600 --> 0:16:37.880 one engine only. So I don't think it's always a 0:16:37.880 --> 0:16:41.520 great idea of personal It didn't work out, let's see 0:16:41.600 --> 0:16:45.200 less it didn't work out for the circuf. It didn't 0:16:45.200 --> 0:16:50.960 work out for the chow either. It's just not worked out. Yeah, Yeah, 0:16:51.000 --> 0:16:53.280 it really doesn't always work out. More often than not, 0:16:53.400 --> 0:16:58.760 it doesn't work. Yeah. The Cyclops made an unscheduled stopover 0:16:58.800 --> 0:17:02.560 in Bridgetown, Barbadoes. Again, I mentioned Charles Livingstone, the console 0:17:02.640 --> 0:17:08.960 before Consul general Console General. Yeah, in Barbados, Worsley told 0:17:09.119 --> 0:17:11.719 him that he needed six hundred tons of coal and 0:17:11.720 --> 0:17:16.760 he also needed more supply. Sorry, weren't they transporting they 0:17:17.080 --> 0:17:20.600 that fueled boats. Yeah, they transported coal down and they 0:17:20.680 --> 0:17:23.399 and they offloaded on the on the other ships, and 0:17:23.440 --> 0:17:26.960 they didn't have Okay, presumably presumably they kept a little 0:17:27.000 --> 0:17:29.720 of reserve for their own engines. Yeah, because they also 0:17:29.760 --> 0:17:32.680 but he apparently, which is weird. Also, because they were 0:17:32.680 --> 0:17:34.920 only feeding, they were feeding half the engines they would 0:17:34.920 --> 0:17:37.119 have normally been feeding, right, so it seems like they 0:17:37.119 --> 0:17:41.320 would have extra. Yeah, I know Livingstone was suspicious about 0:17:41.320 --> 0:17:44.600 that because he thought that they should have enough. I 0:17:44.600 --> 0:17:46.639 didn't look this up, Joe. How many boilers did this 0:17:46.640 --> 0:17:48.960 ship have? Do you know? You know, I don't know. 0:17:49.400 --> 0:17:51.920 I'm sure at least two, if not four. Yeah, that's 0:17:51.920 --> 0:17:54.199 what I mean I never saw that in any of 0:17:54.200 --> 0:17:57.960 the stuff. No, I never did. Still, they shouldn't have. 0:17:58.400 --> 0:18:00.840 You would think they would not devil brings up a 0:18:00.880 --> 0:18:03.000 great point. You wouldn't burn but half of what you 0:18:03.080 --> 0:18:06.240 normally do, even if you're running that boiler full tilt, 0:18:06.280 --> 0:18:10.320 you wouldn't be burning the normal daily amount. Probably not. 0:18:10.359 --> 0:18:12.000 I don't know, I don't know. I mean, it might 0:18:12.040 --> 0:18:14.520 be that you can run all all the boilers and 0:18:14.600 --> 0:18:17.760 just direct all that all that energy to one engine 0:18:18.080 --> 0:18:20.360 and get extra poop out of it. Yeah, I mean, 0:18:20.400 --> 0:18:22.880 it could be that they that one screw can take 0:18:22.920 --> 0:18:26.240 that much torque. I don't know. Yeah, but so Livingston 0:18:26.400 --> 0:18:28.240 was suspicious, and I don't know if he was suspicious 0:18:28.280 --> 0:18:30.440 at the time or if this is just in retrospect 0:18:30.560 --> 0:18:36.000 after the different retrospection. Yeah, but yeah, the but they 0:18:36.000 --> 0:18:38.480 took on like a ton of meat, a ton of flour, 0:18:38.760 --> 0:18:41.720 half a ton of vegetables, so they are just continually 0:18:41.760 --> 0:18:46.639 adding more and more lates. Presumably though, if they're taking 0:18:46.680 --> 0:18:48.679 on all that stuff, that means that they're out of 0:18:48.680 --> 0:18:51.000 a lot of that stuff, right, They've used a lot 0:18:51.040 --> 0:18:58.280 of that presumably presumably, Yeah, theoretically presumably, but maybe not. 0:18:58.320 --> 0:19:01.160 Probably I'll talk I'll talk a little bit more about 0:19:01.320 --> 0:19:06.040 Charles Livingston and his suspicions in a bit here, Okay, okay. 0:19:06.280 --> 0:19:09.879 As I said before, the Cyclops departed bridge Town on 0:19:09.960 --> 0:19:13.520 March fourth with three hundred six crewmen, officers, and passengers 0:19:13.600 --> 0:19:15.639 and just for unit pickers out there. I know this 0:19:15.760 --> 0:19:18.520 number varies among different accounts. Some people have it at 0:19:18.560 --> 0:19:22.080 three hundred nine. You see it swing twenty people in 0:19:22.160 --> 0:19:26.960 either direction, ball back. Yeah, it possible, they just don't 0:19:27.160 --> 0:19:30.199 know for sure. That's that's a good point. Yeah. Well, 0:19:30.200 --> 0:19:32.480 any way, they left with all these a whole bunch 0:19:32.480 --> 0:19:34.960 of people, over three hundred people, and it was never 0:19:35.000 --> 0:19:39.320 seen again. The last contact was the Cyclops made radio contact, 0:19:39.320 --> 0:19:42.640 according to one source that I found with a passenger 0:19:42.720 --> 0:19:46.360 liner called the Mistress on March five, and they reported 0:19:46.400 --> 0:19:49.800 good weather. That's a day later, and that was the 0:19:49.920 --> 0:19:53.760 last anybody heard of the Cyclops, although it's possible it's 0:19:53.760 --> 0:19:58.320 been seen since then because in but there was no jar. 0:19:58.400 --> 0:20:02.640 There was actually one other pose in sighting not too 0:20:02.680 --> 0:20:06.440 long after that. Yeah, you're talking about the molasses tanker. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:20:06.520 --> 0:20:11.440 that thing that appears to not be true, though it 0:20:11.520 --> 0:20:16.879 was obviously Canadian. I was going to say, was it slow? Yeah, 0:20:16.920 --> 0:20:19.440 there was. There was a ship that said that it 0:20:19.640 --> 0:20:23.280 sawed off of the northeastern US Cone and it was 0:20:23.320 --> 0:20:26.080 a Canadian molasses. But there's no way that it could 0:20:26.080 --> 0:20:27.879 have made it there in enough time. I guess I 0:20:27.880 --> 0:20:29.639 didn't feel I want to make sure that we're covering 0:20:29.640 --> 0:20:33.480 all our basis of that's not the only report. Ok. Yeah, yeah, 0:20:33.520 --> 0:20:36.840 that's going to keep making. That's why I didn't stop. 0:20:37.600 --> 0:20:48.320 It was slow going. Yeah, it's called the Amulco. I 0:20:48.359 --> 0:20:50.240 guess I just didn't realize that there was such a 0:20:50.240 --> 0:20:53.320 demand that they had to put tankers full of molasses 0:20:53.359 --> 0:20:56.800 to float them down the river. I kind of like 0:20:56.880 --> 0:21:00.040 the idea. I think it's got a cool it's the 0:21:00.080 --> 0:21:03.920 tanker of molasses heading to the tanker of flapjacks. Oh 0:21:03.960 --> 0:21:09.480 my god. It's kind of like that how peanut butter 0:21:09.520 --> 0:21:13.000 cups got invented, you know. I mean, so there's a 0:21:13.080 --> 0:21:14.640 there's a guy, and there's a guy in a car 0:21:14.800 --> 0:21:23.320 with this this scarping peanut butter is speeding along. Yeah, 0:21:23.480 --> 0:21:25.480 and then there's a police been standing at the bloody 0:21:25.520 --> 0:21:27.119 rackage and he reached it in there and taste it 0:21:27.119 --> 0:21:30.720 and it's like, wow, this is awesome bank bang yeah, okay, 0:21:30.720 --> 0:21:34.439 where was I no idea? Yeah, but it may have 0:21:34.520 --> 0:21:38.280 been seen actually in n A Navy diver named Dean 0:21:38.440 --> 0:21:43.440 has was diving about forty nautical miles northeast of Cape Charles. Uh. 0:21:43.480 --> 0:21:45.920 And this was actually during the search for the scorpion, 0:21:46.040 --> 0:21:49.800 which I've mentioned. So Cape Charles for those who don't know, 0:21:49.840 --> 0:21:51.719 if you know what the Chesapeake Bay is, you can 0:21:51.760 --> 0:21:54.640 google that, which in Baltimore is on the Chesapeake Bay 0:21:54.680 --> 0:21:56.760 way up in the north end of the bay, and 0:21:57.000 --> 0:22:02.320 there's this long peninsula that's part Maryland, part Delaware. The 0:22:03.040 --> 0:22:07.200 bay is kind of V shaped and yeah, yeah, but anyway, 0:22:07.240 --> 0:22:10.600 this this peninsula is called del Marva. And because my 0:22:10.640 --> 0:22:12.760 brother used to live in Maryland, so he took a 0:22:12.760 --> 0:22:15.040 little tour of del Marva. It's kind of interesting actually. 0:22:15.119 --> 0:22:18.040 But anyway, at the very very tip of that peninsula, 0:22:18.880 --> 0:22:23.439 just northeast of Norfolk, Virginia, that is Cape Charles. So 0:22:24.080 --> 0:22:28.840 and so it was forty miles northeast. So they missed 0:22:28.840 --> 0:22:32.640