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Speaker 6: It is Wednesday, January twenty fourth, twenty twenty four, Season nineteen,
Speaker 6: episode number one nine. Welcome to the latest edition of
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Speaker 6: studios at the Stars the off season, and so we
Speaker 6: freestyle here in the off season. We got a lot
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Speaker 3: Today.
Speaker 6: There will actually be a segment where Brian has a
Speaker 6: question for us. It is a tightly kept secret of
Speaker 6: what that question is, so stick around for that.
Speaker 2: Who knows where we're going to go in that segment.
Speaker 6: We'll also get to a little bit of NFL Championship
Speaker 6: weekend talk. At the end of the show, we'll get
Speaker 6: these guys to pick their winners who they think is
Speaker 6: going to go to the super Bowl out of this
Speaker 6: weekend's games.
Speaker 2: But let's start.
Speaker 6: First with the news that came out last week when
Speaker 6: we'd already done our show. I haven't had a chance
Speaker 6: to talk much about it. I think most of us
Speaker 6: probably assumed that Mike McCarthy would be retained, and he was.
Speaker 6: My first question is a big questure, big picture question.
Speaker 6: What do you think or what do you like about
Speaker 6: this decision to keep Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 7: I like that they found an opportunity to split the
Speaker 7: difference as far as the decision, because what I talked
Speaker 7: about going into the decision was that there was a
Speaker 7: lot of past evidence as to why they should retain
Speaker 7: McCarthy when you talk about the regular season success, but
Speaker 7: when you look at the monumental collapse against the Packers,
Speaker 7: obviously there's reason to want to part ways with him.
Speaker 7: So instead, what they did was say, you know what,
Speaker 7: We're going to let you remain, but we're not going
Speaker 7: to extend your contract, right. We're going to push you
Speaker 7: into a proven year, not dissimilar to what they do
Speaker 7: with a player, and say, if you want this extension,
Speaker 7: go out there and earn it next year. So I
Speaker 7: like that set up because it provides that added motivation
Speaker 7: for McCarthy to get the job done. Because there is
Speaker 7: no twenty twenty five if things don't go well in
Speaker 7: twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3: I like the continuity, you know, I think, just from
Speaker 3: a scouting perspective, what I have liked to have seen change. Sure,
Speaker 3: but the way you frame the question, I think the
Speaker 3: thing that you have to look at is the continuity
Speaker 3: of it. When you look at it's difficult for scouts
Speaker 3: to be on the road all year and be evaluating
Speaker 3: players and then have to turn around and have a
Speaker 3: coaching change and deal with that, and then your roster
Speaker 3: looks remarkably different than all the work that they did.
Speaker 3: Maybe some players they didn't particularly like because they didn't fit,
Speaker 3: now they fit because of a coaching change. There's so
Speaker 3: much just that uncertainty there with that. But the thing
Speaker 3: that helps you the most is you know the head
Speaker 3: coach is going to be here. Now you've got to
Speaker 3: see if your defensive coordinator is going to be here.
Speaker 3: In likelihood, we're running out of chairs, I think for
Speaker 3: the defensive coordinator to get a job, so probably have
Speaker 3: everybody back. And that's the continuity that you look for
Speaker 3: when you're building your team.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think.
Speaker 9: I like well, not, I think I do like the decision,
Speaker 9: but I'm interested to see what it looks like for
Speaker 9: another year with him as a play caller. We saw
Speaker 9: some really great things this season, especially after that forty
Speaker 9: nine Ers game. We saw how the offense changed and
Speaker 9: the new scheme was better fitted for Dak Prescott as
Speaker 9: a quarterback. So there were some good things, some really
Speaker 9: bad things too, some questionable decisions towards the end of games.
Speaker 9: But I'm just you know, while you're left in the contract,
Speaker 9: let's just play it out and see hopefully it goes
Speaker 9: well and for the better. But I think there are
Speaker 9: a lot of positive things that he was able to do,
Speaker 9: So I would like to see just a full season
Speaker 9: of and again you're gonna have elements that are going
Speaker 9: to change and different players and talent on the field.
Speaker 8: But we'll see.
Speaker 9: And I don't think Dak is going anywhere either, So
Speaker 9: curious to see just them two working together again for
Speaker 9: another year under this new scheme.
Speaker 3: I'm going to be really interested to see if they
Speaker 3: let this contract run for Dak. That's what I'm I'm
Speaker 3: that's my next thing looking at now. Your coaching situation
Speaker 3: is kind of put to bed. I wonder if they're
Speaker 3: going to let this thing ride and say, you know what,
Speaker 3: we'll take the massive cap and go for it and
Speaker 3: see what happens, you know, and make a decision there.
Speaker 3: I know they are people that talk about the potentially
Speaker 3: of extensions and things like that, but I just wonder
Speaker 3: there's a side of me that just like, Okay, what's
Speaker 3: the one thing that could could really change how this
Speaker 3: offseason was? Would we would go? And I would think
Speaker 3: that that not extending Dak would be one of those things,
Speaker 3: you know, just you know, you you take the cap
Speaker 3: hit and you play, and you know, like you said,
Speaker 3: you prove it, you prove that you deserve another contract.
Speaker 3: You know. That's that's where I'm at. I know people
Speaker 3: talk about cap space and business and all that. It's
Speaker 3: a really good roster, it really really is. But you know,
Speaker 3: like I say, the the option of maybe making your
Speaker 3: quarterback pay for his next play, for his next contract,
Speaker 3: I think is something that that might be inviting to me.
Speaker 3: If you're gonna, if you're gonna, if if all of
Speaker 3: a sudden you clear the decks after next season, say
Speaker 3: it doesn't work out, then you do have a clean
Speaker 3: way of doing it. You move on from your coach,
Speaker 3: You move on from your quarterback, you know, but make
Speaker 3: both of those guys have to go and earn that contract.
Speaker 7: And what I'll say to that point, as far as
Speaker 7: salary cap management, we all expect that Dak Prescott will
Speaker 7: be in the Cowboys uniform in twenty twenty four, so
Speaker 7: we're talking about beyond. It's possible that he gets an extension.
Speaker 7: But what a lot of fans need to understand is
Speaker 7: that as far as maneuvering or massaging the salary cap,
Speaker 7: an extension isn't necessary to maneuver or massage the salary cap.
Speaker 4: So if it remains as is, no.
Speaker 7: Changes whatsoever, no extensions, then yeah, you're going to get
Speaker 7: blasted with almost sixty million dollars in the cap hit.
Speaker 7: But if they restructure it, which does not require negotiation whatsoever,
Speaker 7: that's just a switch that they flipped in the contract
Speaker 7: that turns it to a savings of twenty one million
Speaker 7: dollars roughly toward the cap. Now, of course that parks
Speaker 7: money into devoided years, and that's something you deal with
Speaker 7: down the road, but it's something you deal with down
Speaker 7: the road. So just kind of a housekeeping note for
Speaker 7: those that are wondering if they don't extend DAK, because
Speaker 7: I see a lot of it on Twitter. They're saying, well,
Speaker 7: if you don't extend DK, you got to eat the
Speaker 7: sixty million.
Speaker 4: Well not necessarily, you got some options.
Speaker 2: Let's put a pin in that one, because I actually
Speaker 2: have next week.
Speaker 6: I want us to spend the entire show talking about
Speaker 6: DAK and what he means is franchise and what should
Speaker 6: happen this year and what we think can happen in
Speaker 6: the future and Trey Lance and there's there's so many
Speaker 6: different offshoots of that decision.
Speaker 2: I want to take a whole show on that. So
Speaker 2: we'll put a pin in that one.
Speaker 6: Okay, let's go back to the coach though and McCarthy
Speaker 6: and let's sell to the flip side of that. We
Speaker 6: talked about the good side of making this decision. What's
Speaker 6: the part that troubles you? If there is a part
Speaker 6: that troubles you about that decision, what is that.
Speaker 3: He identified that they don't run the ball well enough.
Speaker 3: And in the beginning of the year, that was something
Speaker 3: that was a big talking point by the staff, by
Speaker 3: him as we went into the season, is you know,
Speaker 3: one of the reasons they moved on from Kellen Moore.
Speaker 3: That we kind of got was that we need to
Speaker 3: run the ball better, and they did not run the
Speaker 3: ball better. Matter of fact, I think they got worse.
Speaker 3: And so to me, this is where now I'm gonna
Speaker 3: look at Mike McCarthy and I'm gonna I'm gonna try
Speaker 3: and take you at your word. You know, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: give you the benefit of the doubt here. You know,
Speaker 3: you came out, you said that you needed to run
Speaker 3: the ball better. You did not get better running the football.
Speaker 3: So you need to figure that out right now. Whether
Speaker 3: it's personnel, whether it's your play calling, you know, whatever
Speaker 3: it is, you need to figure it out. You cannot
Speaker 3: be a one dimensional team. And we saw what happened
Speaker 3: there with that. You know you just did not do
Speaker 3: it good enough job doing that. So to me, that's
Speaker 3: a big problem right there. You identify something, you identified
Speaker 3: that turnovers were a problem. You fix that. That's a
Speaker 3: great job. A lot of it had to do with Dak.
Speaker 3: The receivers did a much better job with that area.
Speaker 3: But if you're telling me that you identify you need
Speaker 3: to run the ball better and be better at it
Speaker 3: and you don't, I'm gonna put you on notice.
Speaker 7: I think the part that troubles me is trying to
Speaker 7: wrap my head around the intangibles of why the season failed.
Speaker 7: I mean, we could talk about the science as far
Speaker 7: as the tangibles are concerned, but at least seeing the
Speaker 7: tangibles gives.
Speaker 4: You bullseyes to hit.
Speaker 7: You can say, Okay, fix this, fix this, fix this.
Speaker 7: But the intangibles go to the mentality. So for example,
Speaker 7: you being the most penalized team in the league. That's
Speaker 7: a mental thing because that goes to self discipline on
Speaker 7: an individual level. And then when it's a massive amount
Speaker 7: like that. Now you're talking coaching. When you talk about
Speaker 7: the meltdown that happened against the Green Bay Packers, that
Speaker 7: was a mental meltdown. It just felt like the Cowboys
Speaker 7: were ill prepared when they walked onto the field against
Speaker 7: the Packers. And that's disturbing for me. So as much
Speaker 7: as I can see and justify the decision to keep
Speaker 7: McCarthy around, when I start looking at the mindset of
Speaker 7: going into a big game and floundering in the fashion
Speaker 7: in which they did, that's concerning for me because that's
Speaker 7: not as easy to attack as it would be saying, hey,
Speaker 7: you keep getting fall start penalties.
Speaker 4: Let's work on that.
Speaker 7: When you talk about the mental aspect of it from
Speaker 7: a team from a player standpoint, that becomes much more challenging.
Speaker 7: So I'm interested to see how McCarthy directly attacks that
Speaker 7: going into year five, the final year of his contract,
Speaker 7: because if this team doesn't get that mental fortitude for
Speaker 7: playoff games like they have for regular season games, we'll
Speaker 7: be back here having the same conversation a year from now.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think to me, the bad is.
Speaker 9: One showing up having not shown I would say not
Speaker 9: showing up in games where you're playing really, really talented opponents.
Speaker 9: I think there were so many great games throughout the season,
Speaker 9: especially at home, but when you faced certain types of opponents,
Speaker 9: they just they they weren't up to the standards, let's
Speaker 9: say the competitiveness, And I think that kind of attributes
Speaker 9: to the running game. Had you be able to run
Speaker 9: the ball, I think you played a lot better with
Speaker 9: a balanced offense. But also the way the defense was
Speaker 9: starting to trend downwards. You know, they started the season
Speaker 9: in a very high no and it started kind of
Speaker 9: just doing what they could because of the injuries. They
Speaker 9: were just trying to hold up and the whole away games.
Speaker 9: That's hard to figure out. Really, we don't have an answer.
Speaker 9: Did it just we don't know. But so the one
Speaker 9: thing that's left that I would point out the penalties.
Speaker 8: I mean, we've talked about this forever.
Speaker 9: It's been since the time he got here, Like this
Speaker 9: is not just the one last year thing. It wasn't
Speaker 9: the year before. It's been since he got here. We've
Speaker 9: been talking about penalties, and I feel like nobody gets
Speaker 9: the spanking. And I don't condone. I don't condone violence.
Speaker 9: I don't I don't promote violence. I don't promote spanking.
Speaker 9: But I'm just using the term because we just see
Speaker 9: it happen over and over and over and there are
Speaker 9: no consequences. There's nothing that shows you that they're improving
Speaker 9: or trying to because it just constantly continues to happen.
Speaker 9: So and I put that all well, sure, player execution
Speaker 9: and all that, but when so many different guys are
Speaker 9: doing it, I put it.
Speaker 8: I put it on the head coach.
Speaker 6: Let's when you think about the situation that now McCarthy
Speaker 6: is faced with. I've heard how it can help and
Speaker 6: i've heard how it can hurt. Going into a final
Speaker 6: year of a coach's contract without an extension.
Speaker 2: You got the one.
Speaker 6: Side where it's like, okay, prove it, So you want
Speaker 6: to see him actually prove it to get his next deal.
Speaker 2: And I like that.
Speaker 6: I like that there's there's that carrot out there. The
Speaker 6: part that that I've heard people talk about that's a
Speaker 6: big of a bigger challenge is how do you maintain
Speaker 6: the authority or the respect for your authority in the
Speaker 6: locker room when players know you're only there potentially for
Speaker 6: one year and if things don't go well, you won't
Speaker 6: be there going into the next year. Which do you, guys,
Speaker 6: fall do you think it's more of a help or
Speaker 6: hindrance that your coach goes into a final year with
Speaker 6: no clear decision necessarily on what his future is.
Speaker 7: I think it goes to the culture of the locker
Speaker 7: room and the relationship between the players and the coach.
Speaker 7: So if it's a situation where you have a fractured
Speaker 7: locker room and the players are not completely bought into
Speaker 7: that particular coach, but that coach is getting one more chance,
Speaker 7: then you can kind of lean toward that being like
Speaker 7: a lame duck type of season where what you're talking
Speaker 7: about players are like, I don't have to listen to you.
Speaker 7: You're not going to be here next next week, next year,
Speaker 7: I should say. But when it comes to the relationships
Speaker 7: that we know for a fact Mike has with dak CD,
Speaker 7: everybody on the offensive side, guys on the defensive side
Speaker 7: of the ball who've come out and celebrated his retention
Speaker 7: as well. That gives the culture that lends to the
Speaker 7: belief that these guys don't want to see McCarthy out
Speaker 7: of the building after twenty twenty four. So that lends
Speaker 7: me to believe that they're going to give as much
Speaker 7: as possible to try to make sure that the head
Speaker 7: coach that they love so.
Speaker 4: Much actually gets the extension. So that's one part of it.
Speaker 7: The other part of it is from a player aspect,
Speaker 7: you might not be here next year, right, So you
Speaker 7: don't have the luxury of looking at this coach and saying, oh,
Speaker 7: I don't have to listen to you because you might
Speaker 7: not be here next year, Nor would you if you
Speaker 7: don't put everything you need to put on film, you
Speaker 7: might be in another uniform, or worse, you might be
Speaker 7: out of the league entirely, which is sadly the case
Speaker 7: for some of these guys, not just these guys, but
Speaker 7: guys around the league, because it's not for long league.
Speaker 7: So from those two capacities, but especially the cultural standpoint,
Speaker 7: I think that this locker room is so bought into
Speaker 7: with McCarthy that they would not disrespec him by look
Speaker 7: at him in the face and saying, we don't care
Speaker 7: about what you're talking about.
Speaker 4: I think it's the opposite. I think they look at
Speaker 4: him and say.
Speaker 7: We drop the ball against the Packers, We dropped the
Speaker 7: ball against the forty nine ers. We need to go
Speaker 7: out here and do this.
Speaker 3: Ye play better? How about play better? If you care
Speaker 3: so much about your coach, play better well, to play
Speaker 3: better on the road, play better when you have you know,
Speaker 3: play better. Stop the penalties, you know, stop you know,
Speaker 3: if you want Mike McCarthy to still be here and
Speaker 3: get an extension, you need to figure out how to
Speaker 3: play better as well. You don't need to go let
Speaker 3: each other down. You don't need to bust coverages, you
Speaker 3: don't need to miss tackles, you don't need to miss blocks.
Speaker 3: You know, you don't need to drop the ball. Preach
Speaker 3: play better? You know if that if that means that
Speaker 3: much to you. These are all these coaches all I mean,
Speaker 3: these players. Oh I love the coach. I'm glad the
Speaker 3: coach is here. You know. You know again, it's about
Speaker 3: feeling comfortable sometimes, you know, players get a little comfortable
Speaker 3: with the situation. You know, Mike does a good job
Speaker 3: of managing the team, the health of the team, all that,
Speaker 3: but you know what, you're now, you're you're, you're coach
Speaker 3: is in a situation where it ain't about the regular
Speaker 3: season anymore. You go out there and fold in the playoffs. Again.
Speaker 3: It's like Patrick said, so you all are going to
Speaker 3: be looking for Jahannas Day.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I agree with that. And I don't think Mike
Speaker 9: has lost the locker room. I mean, we've seen players
Speaker 9: come out on Twitter or x and just kind of
Speaker 9: show their happiness of him staying on the team and
Speaker 9: all of that. But also as a whole, the reason
Speaker 9: why I would think like no one just kind of
Speaker 9: dismisses him as a head coach would be because right now,
Speaker 9: you you're the joke around the NFL. Like I don't
Speaker 9: think I don't. I'm not calling them the joke, but
Speaker 9: you just everywhere you turn, when you turn on a
Speaker 9: sports programming or whatever. Every show, everything online, everyone just
Speaker 9: makes fun of you. Everyone laughs, Everyone's constantly messaging me
Speaker 9: laughing at me too. So it's just I think you
Speaker 9: have become a joke. And as a player, as a
Speaker 9: comp I think there is that pride. You know, you
Speaker 9: want to show that you can actually get to where
Speaker 9: you need to get and that you can actually compete
Speaker 9: and shut everybody up.
Speaker 8: So I think that the drive is still.
Speaker 4: Going to be there, and I do really quickly.
Speaker 7: I will say, in contrast to what we're talking about,
Speaker 7: we talk about culture. For example, let's talk about the
Speaker 7: Philadelphia Eagles in this same aspect. You saw how fracture
Speaker 7: that locker room was, especially on the back end of
Speaker 7: the season when they were going.
Speaker 4: Through that slide. And it appears.
Speaker 7: That they're going to keep Sirianni because they're swapping out
Speaker 7: coordinators now and the head coach is still there.
Speaker 4: You've not seen.
Speaker 7: Reports, quotes, tweets, or anything of that nature from Eagles
Speaker 7: players that are celebrating the fact that Sirianni would return,
Speaker 7: and I think at this point it's safe to say
Speaker 7: that this might be a proven season for Sirianni as well.
Speaker 7: So those are two different contrasts, is what I mean.
Speaker 7: You see this visibly with Cowboys players supporting and being
Speaker 7: thankful McCarthy's back, versus a fractured locker room like in Philadelphia.
Speaker 6: Well, I will say this, I saw several of the
Speaker 6: Eagles players after that game talking to media, and media
Speaker 6: were asking about and they look like cos of Mainland
Speaker 6: and they were like, this is stupid, like this is
Speaker 6: our guy, Like this is our coach. He's our coach,
Speaker 6: he's he should be here. So I think there's I
Speaker 6: think he has support in that locker room as well.
Speaker 6: Well again that's also but you also and I think
Speaker 6: we'll talk about this a little later, like not every
Speaker 6: Cowboys player had something to say about this.
Speaker 2: And that's I think we can assume that everybody.
Speaker 8: In the family.
Speaker 3: I'm saying.
Speaker 6: I don't think you can just assume because they didn't
Speaker 6: say something that they have a different or the same opinion.
Speaker 6: I just think it is what it is. And I
Speaker 6: think both by and large, I think both those locker
Speaker 6: rooms support their coach. And by the way, I think
Speaker 6: most NFL teams, the locker room supports their coach until
Speaker 6: they don't. I saw this team loving on Wade Phillips
Speaker 6: until they didn't and and by the way, they probably
Speaker 6: still loved him, they just weren't producing.
Speaker 2: And at some point they're no longer producing.
Speaker 6: What he's giving them is not enough fuel to get
Speaker 6: them to perform at the level they need to. And
Speaker 6: they can still love him, but at some point he's
Speaker 6: got to go. So I don't know if that even
Speaker 6: really matters as much in my opinion, when it comes
Speaker 6: down to how the players perceive the coach relative to
Speaker 6: necessarily how they're going to perform.
Speaker 3: All right, let's take our first break.
Speaker 6: When we come back, I'm gonna ask you, guys, like
Speaker 6: the million dollar question about this. How convinced are you
Speaker 6: that Mike McCarthy is moving this team in the right direction.
Speaker 6: When it's all said and done, they're moving in the
Speaker 6: right direction. We'll talk about that when we come back.
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Speaker 6: Welcome back to second segment of The Break Live miss
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Speaker 6: McCarthy and the big question I'd like to hear you
Speaker 6: guys answer is how much faith do you have that.
Speaker 2: Mike is actually moving this thing in the right direction?
Speaker 6: Because as much as you can talk about postseason and
Speaker 6: what games they've lost, the fact is they are twelve
Speaker 6: and five three straight years, and have been in the
Speaker 6: playoffs three straight years and have won the division two
Speaker 6: out of those three years.
Speaker 2: How convinced are you that he's moving them in the
Speaker 2: right direction.
Speaker 7: That's a tough one. You asked me this question before
Speaker 7: the Packers game. I'm like, Yep, he's moving them in
Speaker 7: the right direction. Absolutely, And then you run two hundred
Speaker 7: miles power into a brick wall and you're like, this
Speaker 7: is rough. I feel like, based upon everything that's occurred
Speaker 7: prior to the Green Bay Packers game. Mike McCarthy is
Speaker 7: moving the franchise in the right direction. Thirty six wins
Speaker 7: over the past three seasons. You didn't see that with
Speaker 7: Garrett or his predecessors. Okay, that's an absolute fact. But
Speaker 7: there's this massive hump that needs to be gotten over
Speaker 7: in the postseason, and based on what happened in this postseason,
Speaker 7: I don't know that that's trending in the right pace
Speaker 7: because literally it's not. You went from wildcard to divisional
Speaker 7: and then you lose in the wildcard. You literally took
Speaker 7: a step back and then you know, spectacularly poor fashion
Speaker 7: as well. So regular season, yes, Cowboys are definitely on
Speaker 7: the right track. Postseason, they took a massive step back.
Speaker 7: And that's why I think the Cowboys did the right
Speaker 7: made the right move to split the difference and say, okay,
Speaker 7: well we'll give you one more shot at this, but
Speaker 7: we're not going to extend it.
Speaker 4: You got to prove it in twenty four.
Speaker 3: You know, showed versus the seventh seed in the NFL
Speaker 3: in the NFC playoffs, you know showed that's rough. And uh,
Speaker 3: you know, twelve wins every year, beautiful win a division
Speaker 3: beautiful appreciate that you're measured on playoff wins, You're measured
Speaker 3: on championships, and he has failed in both categories to
Speaker 3: this point. I'm not saying he can't. He can get
Speaker 3: you to the playoffs. But the concern I have of
Speaker 3: going in the right direction is not related to it's
Speaker 3: the playoffs that bothers me because we've seen them lose
Speaker 3: a variety of ways, and sometimes you didn't have the
Speaker 3: good enough personnel other times, and Patrick, you said this,
Speaker 3: you don't show up. You just didn't show up, You
Speaker 3: didn't play. You were a better team than the Green
Speaker 3: Bay Packers. Green Bay Packers had to fight their way
Speaker 3: to get into this thing, and you had everything in
Speaker 3: your path in front of you going the right direction
Speaker 3: with the home games potentially two home playoff games, who know,
Speaker 3: San Francisco could have gotten beat and then you would
Speaker 3: have you know, maybe had three. But you had the
Speaker 3: path and you did not take advantage of that. That
Speaker 3: bothers me a lot.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean don't.
Speaker 9: I don't have an answer because I was for sure
Speaker 9: convinced that it was gonna happen this last year and
Speaker 9: at least a wild card game. I thought that we're
Speaker 9: gonna win for sure. There was no doubt in my
Speaker 9: mind at all, and it didn't happen. So I don't
Speaker 9: have the answer for you. I mean, I think he
Speaker 9: can still take the team to the playoffs. But what
Speaker 9: really sucks is that we're going to go through a
Speaker 9: season where even good games, it won't matter because the
Speaker 9: question will still be, yeah, can they win in the playoffs?
Speaker 3: Brought that up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, by the way, I think that was the way
Speaker 2: it was this year too.
Speaker 6: To some degree, I think there are a lot of
Speaker 6: people that no matter what was happening this year, they
Speaker 6: were still like.
Speaker 7: But now they get about because of what happened against
Speaker 7: the Packers.
Speaker 4: It's like, like you said, Troy Aikman made a great point.
Speaker 7: He said, when you have to play a season like that,
Speaker 7: which is the one coming up quote unquote, it makes
Speaker 7: for a long year. And it does because it doesn't
Speaker 7: matter how high your highs are over the course of
Speaker 7: the next regular season. Doesn't Let's say you you go
Speaker 7: in and you beat a top contender and you blow them,
Speaker 7: blow the doors off of them on their field. Yeah,
Speaker 7: you can enjoy the highd the moment, but there's that
Speaker 7: thing that's hovering. It's like, okay, but January, but January,
Speaker 7: but January. So yeah, it's going to make for a
Speaker 7: long season, an unpleasant one. You enjoyed the ride while
Speaker 7: it's happening, but that boogeyman in January is still waiting
Speaker 7: for you.
Speaker 6: You know, as I've thought about this over the last
Speaker 6: week or so, I've come to a conclusion. I want
Speaker 6: to get y'all's opinion on whether you think this is
Speaker 6: stupid or not, but I'm starting to wonder if the
Speaker 6: weight of the Cowboys star is too much. And what
Speaker 6: I mean by that is I've heard McCarthy talk about
Speaker 6: how this is the first time he's ever seen this
Speaker 6: in his years in the NFL, where there is so
Speaker 6: much chatter about the team, especially when things go wrong,
Speaker 6: when you talk about fans, when you talk about media,
Speaker 6: the level of talk and the level of just negativity
Speaker 6: is so great. I'm starting to wonder if and again
Speaker 6: I know players will say they don't listen to the
Speaker 6: noise all that stuff. I don't believe that because I
Speaker 6: think even if they try to avoid it, just like
Speaker 6: all of us, you still got family members, you got
Speaker 6: friends that are still in your ear talking about where
Speaker 6: they hurt this over here, or they heard this over here,
Speaker 6: or what's going on over here? That all being said,
Speaker 6: do you think it's gotten to a point where really
Speaker 6: it is Getting of the hump is no longer about
Speaker 6: x's and o's.
Speaker 2: Getting over the hunt hump is mental because.
Speaker 6: It's going to require them to not freeze up when
Speaker 6: they get into a situation. I really believe you getting
Speaker 6: that packers game. Packers take the ball, go down, score
Speaker 6: and then things don't go well and they score again.
Speaker 6: I personally believe there are probably a lot of guys
Speaker 6: on that sideline that in the back of their minds
Speaker 6: start thinking, I don't want to have to go through this,
Speaker 6: like this is this is not gonna be good, and
Speaker 6: you start getting tight and you start wondering how this
Speaker 6: is gonna work. And I just think that the weight
Speaker 6: of all of that, the weight of everything involved with it,
Speaker 6: may be too much.
Speaker 7: But see if that if that is in fact the
Speaker 7: case for several of these guys, that goes back to
Speaker 7: my initial concern and fear, which is the mental fortitude,
Speaker 7: Because if that's the case, then what is the answer
Speaker 7: other than to make sure that you have the players
Speaker 7: in the building that have the mental fortitude to be
Speaker 7: able to carry the weight of the star.
Speaker 6: Okay, I understand that, But is there a point where
Speaker 6: the weight is so heavy that there there aren't a
Speaker 6: lot of people out there that are capable of doing that.
Speaker 7: I wouldn't say so, because there's always going to be
Speaker 7: somebody capable of carrying what this particular person is incapable
Speaker 7: of carrying. It's about finding that person those persons and
Speaker 7: or looking at the person that's in front of you
Speaker 7: trying to figure out why are you unable to carry it?
Speaker 4: Is there anything we can do to try to help
Speaker 4: you carry it.
Speaker 7: Let's be clear and that the weight of the Star
Speaker 7: is heavier than any other logo in the NFL, arguably
Speaker 7: any of the logo in sports, especially when you're talking
Speaker 7: about you know, you have a very visible owner and
Speaker 7: general manager, and you have the pressure to perform when
Speaker 7: you're constantly being weighed up against the greatness that preceded
Speaker 7: you and the length of time in which it preceded you.
Speaker 7: We're talking about the nineties. You haven't had, you know,
Speaker 7: that type of dominance in almost thirty years. So yes,
Speaker 7: it's a ton of pressure. But the organization is putting
Speaker 7: belief in you and money in your pocket to go
Speaker 7: out there and have the mental fortitude to get the
Speaker 7: job done. They're putting the pieces around you that bring
Speaker 7: it in the Super Bowl winning coach from another legacy
Speaker 7: organization like the Green Bay Packers, and then he's putting
Speaker 7: guys around you, coaches around you, talented guys like El
Speaker 7: Harris for example, position guys who can help make you better.
Speaker 7: So then when it comes to the biggest moments the postseason,
Speaker 7: if you're not mentally strong enough for that, then the
Speaker 7: issue becomes much deeper, and there's no quick.
Speaker 4: Fix for it, because the only fix is turnover. Right.
Speaker 7: But the more you turn over and try to find
Speaker 7: the guys who are prepared to do it, twenty eight
Speaker 7: years becomes thirty five years becomes forty.
Speaker 2: That's exact point that I'm making here.
Speaker 4: Go ahead, right.
Speaker 3: I feel like there were guys on the market and
Speaker 3: coaching this year that could that still are on the market,
Speaker 3: that know what pressure is and know how to handle
Speaker 3: the pressure. When you're starting to talk about the Bill
Speaker 3: Belichicks and the Jim Harbaughs and people like that, those
Speaker 3: are guys to me that know how to handle pressure.
Speaker 3: They know how to handle the winning side of things.
Speaker 3: They deal with the losses. They know how they don't
Speaker 3: lose very much. I know Belichick has struggled a little bit.
Speaker 3: I think it's taken Mike McCarthy four years to realize
Speaker 3: how tough this job really really is. You know, he
Speaker 3: didn't have a lot of media coverage in Green Bay.
Speaker 3: He didn't have Sean Payton told me this one time.
Speaker 3: He says, Brian, you coach this football team. They know
Speaker 3: your name in China. You know, that's where the That's
Speaker 3: where we are right now. And I think that it
Speaker 3: takes a special person to coach this football team. We
Speaker 3: put one in the Ring of Honor the other day,
Speaker 3: special people, and they have yet to find that special person,
Speaker 3: Bill Parcells. I wish Bill Parcells was a lot younger
Speaker 3: version of Bill Parcells when we got him here, because
Speaker 3: I think he could have done some really good things,
Speaker 3: you know, with the way his attitude and and the
Speaker 3: way the team building and things like that. I think
Speaker 3: that could have been a big difference. This is a
Speaker 3: huge job and if you don't understand that, you're going
Speaker 3: to get crushed. And you know, Mike McCarthy is probably
Speaker 3: looking at himself going I've won thirty six games in
Speaker 3: three years and I'm fighting for a contract extension. That's
Speaker 3: not the attitude you need to take. You need to
Speaker 3: figure out why you are not having success in the
Speaker 3: playoffs and why you're not having championship success. That's what
Speaker 3: you need to be measured by, not not wondering why
Speaker 3: this is a this job? Is why am I not
Speaker 3: getting this? Or why am I not getting that? That's
Speaker 3: your mental fortitude question right there, don't you know? You're
Speaker 3: the one that told us that you were going to
Speaker 3: run the football. You didn't run the football, and now
Speaker 3: you're wondering why we're questioning that. Come on, sir, really
Speaker 3: that's not That's not that this is a big job.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of people around this world that put
Speaker 3: everything into this football team. They're just asking for you
Speaker 3: to deliver. That's what they're asking.
Speaker 9: Well, all right, bear with me in this explanation of mine.
Speaker 9: But I think it doesn't affect on game day, like
Speaker 9: when you go out there, you block everything out. You know,
Speaker 9: I've never played football or anything like that, But what
Speaker 9: I can compare it to is, for example, when I
Speaker 9: was doing modeling and being on a runway minute, like
Speaker 9: right before stepping on stage, I'm a wreck. But as
Speaker 9: soon as you stepped your foot on that stage, you
Speaker 9: just black blank out. You block out all the noise.
Speaker 8: You're just okay.
Speaker 2: Can I stop you for a second. I want to
Speaker 2: ask you a question. Have you ever fallen when.
Speaker 4: You were on the runway. I know that's what he's
Speaker 4: going with it.
Speaker 2: No, okay, it stumbled. No, let me, let me let
Speaker 2: me because here's why I'm going with this. Let's assume.
Speaker 6: Let's assume that you got out there one time and
Speaker 6: you'd blocked out all the noise, and you're going down
Speaker 6: that runway and you're having a great walk down this runway,
Speaker 6: and all of a sudden, you tumble, and you tumble bad.
Speaker 2: You've tumbled off the stage.
Speaker 6: The next time you go on that stage, you think
Speaker 6: you're gonna be able to block everything out at that point.
Speaker 9: I mean, obviously that's not easy, and I'm trying to
Speaker 9: think of it. That hasn't happened to me. But I'll
Speaker 9: say this, I think it matters a lot the people
Speaker 9: surrounding you. Yes, you're gonna have a bunch of people
Speaker 9: like in the audience, but the people you're around with
Speaker 9: other models. I say, players around you, how's that support system?
Speaker 9: If they make me feel comfortable and like, hey you
Speaker 9: got this whatever, I'm good and you kind of okay whatever.
Speaker 9: You'll probably think about it at night, but in the moment,
Speaker 9: you just keep going.
Speaker 8: You just go in this game mode.
Speaker 9: But aside from that, I think game day it's totally different.
Speaker 8: Animal.
Speaker 9: I think you're more just in it and this is
Speaker 9: your element and this is what you gotta do to me.
Speaker 9: It lies more on the preparation leading up to the game.
Speaker 9: We know how many people deal with anxiety. We know
Speaker 9: how many people just mentally that's stuff, and I think
Speaker 9: that's where it plays an element. I wonder, and I
Speaker 9: don't know how they manage all of this. And remember
Speaker 9: heading into the game. Right before the game started, I
Speaker 9: talked to you, Derek, and I'm like, hey, how do
Speaker 9: these players do it? Heading into their like I'm nervous,
Speaker 9: and I'm just here as an expectator watching and I'm nervous.
Speaker 9: So I think, what does that preparation throughout the week
Speaker 9: looks like? Because that's very hard to handle. And again
Speaker 9: I don't promote drugs. I don't promote anything like that,
Speaker 9: but you know, essential oils, relaxation, music, meditation, there are
Speaker 9: different ways natural. Yeah, what kind of natural though, here's
Speaker 9: what I said, But I just think that's in me
Speaker 9: in that game, what I saw the Cowboys do, it
Speaker 9: just felt like there was no preparation throughout the week
Speaker 9: leading up to the game. Because if there was, and
Speaker 9: this is just me as speculating or trying to find
Speaker 9: the reason.
Speaker 8: Because if they was.
Speaker 9: If there was, you just kind of go into game
Speaker 9: like you just go get into that switch just clicks
Speaker 9: and you just do what you're supposed to do.
Speaker 2: But I understand that.
Speaker 6: But I guess where I'm going is, I do think
Speaker 6: that if you've continuously stumbled, and not only that you
Speaker 6: can have whoever you want around you from the player standpoint,
Speaker 6: but you also are getting heckled when you go out.
Speaker 2: Your kids might be getting heckled.
Speaker 6: Like over time, there are the wounds that happen from
Speaker 6: the stumbles that now I think you can get into
Speaker 6: a game, and again, unless you are just one of
Speaker 6: those people who is just extremely focused and knows how
Speaker 6: to knows how to overcome that kind of stuff. In
Speaker 6: a way, I look at Lamar Jackson's on the screen
Speaker 6: right there. He's a guy that's been through a lot
Speaker 6: of people talking, and it seems like he's kind of
Speaker 6: just resolute in his mind at this point.
Speaker 2: I don't care. I'm about to make this like.
Speaker 6: You got to have that kind of focus, mentality, and
Speaker 6: skill in order to overcome it. And I do wonder
Speaker 6: if because of all the stumbles that have happened over
Speaker 6: all these years, I do wonder if at some point and.
Speaker 8: Again, but the carry is that same weight.
Speaker 9: You have so many new coaches and position, but.
Speaker 6: They are also a part of the same thing you
Speaker 6: were talking about earlier. Even though they're not responsible for
Speaker 6: what happened five years ago, ten years ago, whatever, they
Speaker 6: still get those messages from people that are like, man,
Speaker 6: y'all are laughing, y'all are the laughing stock, Like y'all
Speaker 6: all the joke. So it's still now weighs on them.
Speaker 6: Even though they didn't have anything to do with what
Speaker 6: happened in two thousand and seven, they didn't have anything
Speaker 6: to do with what happened in twenty fourteen. The fact
Speaker 6: is they're still having to deal with that because people
Speaker 6: are still looking at them and saying things to them
Speaker 6: and basically deriding them for what happened back then, and
Speaker 6: now they've become a part of the narrative because of
Speaker 6: what happened to them against the package. All My point
Speaker 6: is is I do wonder, and I'm not saying it
Speaker 6: is or isn't. It makes me wonder if the pressure
Speaker 6: and the weight of all of this has gotten so
Speaker 6: large and so great that it will be very difficult
Speaker 6: for it to find a group of men who are
Speaker 6: capable of overcoming that.
Speaker 7: I think the pressure is real, the weight of the
Speaker 7: star is real, and it goes to the level of success,
Speaker 7: and that the organization has reached versus the level of
Speaker 7: struggle that they've had since that success, because you have
Speaker 7: this drought and these spectacular losses and things like that.
Speaker 7: But using Ambar's analogy, for example, let's say you got
Speaker 7: a roadway model, all right, So let's say Heidi Klumb, right,
Speaker 7: Heidi Klum is one who set.
Speaker 4: The bar right modeling. Let's say.
Speaker 7: You have three or four up and coming models after
Speaker 7: Heidi Klum. They want to get the Heidi Klum status,
Speaker 7: but they're always going to be measured by what Heidi
Speaker 7: Kluhn was able to do. Let's say three of those
Speaker 7: four up and coming models post Heidi Klum all fell
Speaker 7: on stage. You haven't yet because you haven't gone out
Speaker 7: there yet, right, But now it's your turn to go
Speaker 7: out there. I guarantee you the first thing you're thinking
Speaker 7: about is don't stumble like the previous ones stumbled.
Speaker 4: Also whilst keeping in mind that you have to meet
Speaker 4: the bar that Heidi Klum set.
Speaker 7: So to Derek's point, this is what he's saying mentally,
Speaker 7: this is everything you're up against. It's not your fault
Speaker 7: that the previous models stumbled out there. But now that
Speaker 7: you're about to go out there, the audience is probably
Speaker 7: waiting for you to stumble because the moment you stumble,
Speaker 7: now they get to jump on top of that as
Speaker 7: well and say, see, this is why they'll never be
Speaker 7: Heidi Klumb. But also you have to look at what
Speaker 7: HEII was able to achieve and wonder to yourself, am
Speaker 7: I good enough to do that? And see now you
Speaker 7: have you know your self with the negative self to
Speaker 7: and things like that. So I understand one hundred percent
Speaker 7: with Derek is saying, I feel like the solution is
Speaker 7: simply making sure you have the right people in the building.
Speaker 7: And it's also easier said than done. When you're talking
Speaker 7: about the Cowboys, the Cleveland Browns don't have the same issue.
Speaker 7: The Jaguars don't, the Titans don't, the Falcons certainly don't.
Speaker 7: Falcons go out and they can have four more losing
Speaker 7: seasons and yeah, we'll be you know, NFL fans will
Speaker 7: be talking about them. But if the Cowboys have one
Speaker 7: losing season, it's talked about infinitely more than a team
Speaker 7: that hasn't really won much having ten consecutive losing seasons.
Speaker 7: The standard becomes the standard, and the next person has
Speaker 7: to be the the you know, the burden bearer for
Speaker 7: the standard that was laid for them.
Speaker 3: If you're on that runway, you ain't worried about stumbling.
Speaker 3: That's my opinion. You're there for a reason.
Speaker 4: You shouldn't be worried about it.
Speaker 3: You ain't worried about stumbling. I hear it. If you're
Speaker 3: in that If you're not, you shouldn't be worried about stumbling.
Speaker 4: You're right.
Speaker 3: You should. You were you were, you were. You were
Speaker 3: putting that position for a reason, you know, whether it's
Speaker 3: your talent, your looks, whatever it is. But you're not
Speaker 3: worried about that. You're just worrying about walking down there,
Speaker 3: turning around and coming back and changing your outfit and
Speaker 3: doing it again and again and again and again. That's
Speaker 3: where this team lacks. Sometimes they can't do that. They
Speaker 3: can't get on that stage and walk straight and not stumble,
Speaker 3: you know, even though they should be there, right, And
Speaker 3: that's that's the problem.
Speaker 6: And that's the point, Like, you're absolutely right, you shouldn't
Speaker 6: like that's the point of brainwashing.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm just saying I've watched a lot of crime documentaries.
Speaker 8: Washing is a real thing.
Speaker 9: It's a real thing that narcissist or whatever due to
Speaker 9: other people to manipulate.
Speaker 8: I'm just saying I'm not I don't don't you is
Speaker 8: there anything you.
Speaker 2: Could don't We're against everything. I'm not sure what we
Speaker 2: actually do can don't. All right, let's take our final break.
Speaker 3: Come back.
Speaker 6: Brian's got a question for the table. We'll jump into
Speaker 6: that when we come back. Dallas Cowboys Radio.
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Speaker 6: Final segment of The Break Life from the SWBC Mortgage
Speaker 6: Studios at the Star. Chris, We're probably gonna run a
Speaker 6: little long because we were already at about three and
Speaker 6: a half minutes left in the show, and we got
Speaker 6: so much more we got to talk about.
Speaker 2: So, Brian, it's your show.
Speaker 3: What you got? Okay? I got a question last night.
Speaker 3: Bobby and I were doing the Love of the Star
Speaker 3: podcast that we do every week, and we had a
Speaker 3: question last night from a gentleman named Matt Hollerin. I
Speaker 3: want to give him credit for this question. And Matt
Speaker 3: asked this question. He said, of the following hypothetical duos,
Speaker 3: which do you pick to bring back in free agency?
Speaker 3: So I'm going to give you a pair of players
Speaker 3: and you have to determine which one of the pair
Speaker 3: of players you would like to bring back in free agency.
Speaker 3: Jack one pair, that's it, let's get it. First pair
Speaker 3: is Tyron Smith and Georg's Armstrong. Second pair is Jordan
Speaker 3: Lewis and Tyler Biottish, Third pair is Gilmore and Fowler.
Speaker 3: Fourth pair is Pollard and Hankins.
Speaker 2: What was the last one?
Speaker 3: Pollard and Hankins. So there's you have to it's a
Speaker 3: hypothetical duo in which one would you bring back in
Speaker 3: free agency Smith, Armstrong, Lewis Beatdish, Gilmore Fowler, Pollard Hankins.
Speaker 3: You can only you can only bring one back.
Speaker 6: That's easy for me. Gilmore Fowler. I think you get
Speaker 6: your best combo there. I am of the belief that
Speaker 6: I agree with you. Brian on Foul I think he
Speaker 6: was vastly underused. He's a great third pass rusher, so
Speaker 6: I want him back.
Speaker 2: And Gilmore.
Speaker 6: I think with cornerback you never have too many, as
Speaker 6: we saw this year, so give me that back. I
Speaker 6: don't think. I think Gilmore was a good player for
Speaker 6: them all season. I don't want to have to to
Speaker 6: necessarily go into this season with if you don't have
Speaker 6: Lewis too, you know only two cornerbacks that are proven
Speaker 6: on the squad, So I'll go with Gilmore Fowler.
Speaker 2: It's easy for me.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Well, you were breaking yours down. I was circling
Speaker 7: through them in my head and I could see the
Speaker 7: tyrant duo and endurance because Dorrance has way more value
Speaker 7: than Cowboys fans give give him credit for.
Speaker 6: At what point are you gonna be willing to tear
Speaker 6: that band aid off Dorrans no tyro.
Speaker 3: If they told me that they were going to move
Speaker 3: the left guard the left tackle, I would be a lot.
Speaker 3: I would think about it, matter of fact, But they're not.
Speaker 6: So what they what do they go first round and
Speaker 6: take a left tackle?
Speaker 3: Uh, that's a great possibility of doing that. The potential
Speaker 3: of that would be I think that would be the
Speaker 3: best way to probably go right now. But there's there's
Speaker 3: several linebackers that you could probably grab there too that
Speaker 3: would probably help it. Mean, but if you keep your
Speaker 3: open mind about it.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: To me, I I kind of feel like I'll let
Speaker 3: it bell sque ahead. I'm sorry.
Speaker 7: I mean, I'm gonna I'm gonna go with Gilmore Fouler
Speaker 7: as well. You didn't get to see the Gilmore Diggs duo,
Speaker 7: and now that Doron Bland has truly truly broken out,
Speaker 7: I want to see Bland, Gilmore and Digs, and obviously
Speaker 7: I would love to retain join Lewis as well as
Speaker 7: that rotational guy who can be an impact guy as
Speaker 7: well Fouler. What I was thinking of, I was trying
Speaker 7: to figure out if I was ready or not to fully,
Speaker 7: not incrementally, but fully unleash Sam Williams. I need to
Speaker 7: see his penalties decrease first before I can fully give
Speaker 7: him the keys to that particular role. So for that
Speaker 7: give me Dante Fowler. Continue to impress so yet no spinking.
Speaker 7: So yeah, I don't condone penalties. I do not condone penalties.
Speaker 7: So yeah, I'm gonna take Gilmore, Gilmore Fouler combo.
Speaker 9: For some reason, I'm leaning towards Jordan and Tyler be Oddish.
Speaker 8: And Gilmore.
Speaker 9: I think he's still very, very talented, so is Fouler.
Speaker 8: But I don't know.
Speaker 9: I don't know why, but something about me just feels like,
Speaker 9: you know, they're getting up there in a like age. Sorry,
Speaker 9: nothing against older people, I'm old, but but for some reason,
Speaker 9: I'm leaning I'm just more drawn to Tyler Padish and Jordan.
Speaker 9: I think that Tyler has he's He's been criticized quite
Speaker 9: a lot, but I think he was affected by the
Speaker 9: injury Earlier this season. I thought he was going to
Speaker 9: have a really, really, really great season. The way he
Speaker 9: was playing at training camp and his aggressiveness, his toughness
Speaker 9: was he just he took a huge Yeah, but I
Speaker 9: do think he's still a very valuable player for the offense.
Speaker 9: And then Jordan, he's one of those guys that is
Speaker 9: easily forgotten. He tends he's gotten quite a few injuries
Speaker 9: throughout his career, but he is healthy and on the field,
Speaker 9: I think he's one of those guys that is still
Speaker 9: pretty solid for your defense. That a position that you
Speaker 9: do need.
Speaker 3: So the Pollard, the Pollard Hankins one does nothing for anybody.
Speaker 6: I like Hankins. I'd like to Handkack does. I'm good
Speaker 6: with moving on.
Speaker 4: The running game was too it was too par for me.
Speaker 7: And that's not to say I wouldn't like to have
Speaker 7: Pollard back, But the Pollard I would like to have
Speaker 7: back is the twenty twenty two version, and I don't
Speaker 7: know that you get that if you don't have a
Speaker 7: bruiser like Zeke tied to it.
Speaker 6: I honestly wonder like I would love the idea of
Speaker 6: bringing in a younger back that is more my starter
Speaker 6: and having Pollard as my second back. Sure now, if
Speaker 6: I did that, though it's Pollard willing to take second
Speaker 6: back money.
Speaker 2: That's the part that's a little bit hard.
Speaker 6: When you've been the guy, it's hard sometimes to get
Speaker 6: you to go back to being the second guy. But
Speaker 6: that would be the scenario where I'd want to have
Speaker 6: Pollard backcause if he was in a rotation and I
Speaker 6: had another guy that I was kind of grooming to
Speaker 6: be the man.
Speaker 7: I one hundred percent want Hanks back. That's what makes
Speaker 7: that challenging one.
Speaker 6: And that's also kind of I feel about Lewis, And
Speaker 6: be honest, I want Louis. I think you could probably
Speaker 6: upgrade your center position. I actually want to see if
Speaker 6: Bass can play it personally.
Speaker 3: But sure, the one I picked was I picked Smith
Speaker 3: and Armstrong as the one I picked just because I
Speaker 3: think you've figured out what to do with Tyron Smith.
Speaker 3: I still think he's playing at a high level. Sure
Speaker 3: you're probably going to miss him for a couple of games,
Speaker 3: but I know when he wasn't in there, that offense
Speaker 3: was a little bit different too, you know. And the
Speaker 3: fact that they're not I don't believe they're going to
Speaker 3: move Tyler Smith. So if they're going to keep Tyler Smith,
Speaker 3: that I'm gonna you know, I think you can address
Speaker 3: the left tackle position in the draft. There's clearly some
Speaker 3: first round tackles that are really, really good. Some guys
Speaker 3: like they're going to fall into the second round. But
Speaker 3: I think you've kind of figured things out for Tyron Smith.
Speaker 3: Just don't practice him playing and he plays at a really,
Speaker 3: really high level. And the fact that Armstrong I'd love
Speaker 3: to have if I'd love to flip Fowler and Armstrong there.
Speaker 3: But I think you're right about Armstrong. I don't think
Speaker 3: people give him nearly enough, give enough credit.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you, are you are you at all
Speaker 2: concerned that?
Speaker 6: Because I know what you're saying about tyrannt uh and
Speaker 6: I agree he's played. He played really well this year
Speaker 6: when he was out there.
Speaker 4: Are you at all.
Speaker 6: Concerned though, that the injury crops up at a time
Speaker 6: when you can at least afford it. Let's say you're
Speaker 6: heading into a playoff game and now you get to
Speaker 6: a Friday, his back starts acting.
Speaker 3: Oh no, that's that's that's the danger. That's the tightrope
Speaker 3: that you walk between, you know, between the uh there
Speaker 3: and so I to me, I, yeah, I understand that,
Speaker 3: But I don't know, man, I'm thinking about what do
Speaker 3: I need or what I'm just gonna have to look
Speaker 3: at my draft board and determine are my tackles better
Speaker 3: than say, other defensive positions that you might look.
Speaker 2: At there line back.
Speaker 3: I think I think the main offensive position that you
Speaker 3: would look at would be offensive. I think the main
Speaker 3: position you would look at at center. To be honest
Speaker 3: with you, yeah, you know, and that's why that kind
Speaker 3: of the Lewis. I love what Jordan Lewis has done,
Speaker 3: but I think I could put Bland back there at
Speaker 3: back at Nickel and kind of work around, you know,
Speaker 3: another corner to put in, you know, for my for
Speaker 3: my nickel packages to kind of take care of that.
Speaker 3: I do feel like you have to upgrade the center.
Speaker 11: I do.
Speaker 3: There's times where he played well, the communication was good,
Speaker 3: but I just think you need one of the reasons
Speaker 3: why you did not run the ball very well. Three
Speaker 3: of them in my mind. The center, the right tackle
Speaker 3: coming back from injury, and you're then you're tight end
Speaker 3: who you drafted in the second round did not give
Speaker 3: you the point of attack blocking that you thought you.
Speaker 2: Were from him, ironic, because that was the part you
Speaker 2: thought coming in. He was immediately got it was going
Speaker 2: to be because of what he did, what he did at.
Speaker 6: Michigan and UH and really didn't see the benefit of
Speaker 6: that initially as as we would have expected.
Speaker 13: Me.
Speaker 9: It's like it's hard. It's hard enough finding Lineman, but
Speaker 9: also to me, I just see tackle as a higher
Speaker 9: position of need right now personally, and Tyron Smith love him,
Speaker 9: but I can't. I can't handle the stress.
Speaker 8: I I can't.
Speaker 7: I think I think you can get stress. I can
Speaker 7: get one more year out of him. But like Brian said,
Speaker 7: you go to miss him for a couple of games.
Speaker 7: The question is what games will those be? Are we
Speaker 7: talking about, you know, week two?
Speaker 6: If you can guarantee me it's going to be a
Speaker 6: regular season game and not a postseason game, then I'm
Speaker 6: all in eighteen ye determined?
Speaker 2: That's exactly right?
Speaker 6: All right, real quick, before we end the show, let's
Speaker 6: go ahead and get some predictions on the NFL Championship weekend.
Speaker 6: You got Kansas City at Baltimore, Detroit at San Francisco.
Speaker 6: Let start first with the AFC. Who's gonna win Kansas
Speaker 6: City or Baltimore.
Speaker 7: Oh man, this is going to be so much fun
Speaker 7: to watch. I hate to go against my homes. He's
Speaker 7: just in Dutch, but Lamar is on one he is
Speaker 7: and they're home. So if this game was in Kansas City.
Speaker 7: I go with the Chiefs, but it's Lamar and they
Speaker 7: are on one and they're in Baltimore. Going with the Ravens.
Speaker 3: Give me Baltimore, and give me Baltimore and give me
Speaker 3: Detroit my two.
Speaker 9: I don't want to be this person, but I am.
Speaker 9: The more we move ahead, the more I'm starting to
Speaker 9: believe this conspiracy theory of the logo and the colors
Speaker 9: in the Super Bowl logo.
Speaker 6: So give me the Ravens, all right, And I think
Speaker 6: it's gonna be casey until somebody shows me they can
Speaker 6: beat that quarterback.
Speaker 4: Then I'm gonna go with their receiver. It's gonna drop something,
Speaker 4: I hear you.
Speaker 6: But until they show me this somebody can beat that quarterback,
Speaker 6: I'm gonna say I'm going that quarterback now, Brian.
Speaker 3: You already said Detroit Detroit.
Speaker 2: I also agree with that.
Speaker 6: I think Detroit gets the upset this week, especially if
Speaker 6: Deebo doesn't play, which right now we don't know whether
Speaker 6: Devo is gonna be able to play. If he's out,
Speaker 6: I think Detroit goes up there and get.
Speaker 3: To History will tell you one road team will win
Speaker 3: this thing. It might be Kansas City, but the guy's
Speaker 3: talking about.
Speaker 4: It might be.
Speaker 7: I'm taking Lions. I think the Packers could have defeated
Speaker 7: the forty nine ers at Levy Stadium, and it took
Speaker 7: that one terrible decision by Jordan Love to guarantee the
Speaker 7: forty nine ers or even playing this weekend. And the
Speaker 7: Lions are there on one as well. They're playing well
Speaker 7: on defense, they're playing well on offense. I think the
Speaker 7: Lions get it done.
Speaker 3: Tough team to beat a tough team.
Speaker 9: Yep, I do like the Lions better. But sticking to
Speaker 9: the theory red and purple, so forty nine ers.
Speaker 7: You're all in forty nine. We're not letting the Baltimore
Speaker 7: forty nine ers can't get their sixth first. Like, no, no,
Speaker 7: let's just put that out there.
Speaker 8: Hey, I don't, I don't.
Speaker 7: I didn't.
Speaker 8: I didn't make the rules.
Speaker 6: I did keep it that way, all right, We appreciate
Speaker 6: you guys. Jonas were back next week and we're talking
Speaker 6: quarterback next week. I think unless there's some news obviously
Speaker 6: that it comes up. But unless that happens, we're definitely
Speaker 6: gonna talk quarterback next week and talk about Dak Prescott,
Speaker 6: talk about the entire quarterback situation and what it looks
Speaker 6: like for the Cowboys and what we think will happen
Speaker 6: going into this offseason and into next season.
Speaker 3: Checheck it. Yeah, check out the Draft show tomorrow.
Speaker 6: Yep, absolutely Draft show tomorrow. In case you haven't looked
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Speaker 6: so you saw plenty of content. Be able to check
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