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Speaker 6: It is Wednesday, January twenty fourth, twenty twenty four, Season nineteen,

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Speaker 6: episode number one nine. Welcome to the latest edition of

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Speaker 6: The Break. We are live from the s WBC Mortgage

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Speaker 6: studios at the Stars the off season, and so we

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Speaker 6: freestyle here in the off season. We got a lot

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Speaker 6: of different topics.

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Speaker 3: Today.

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Speaker 6: There will actually be a segment where Brian has a

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Speaker 6: question for us. It is a tightly kept secret of

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Speaker 6: what that question is, so stick around for that.

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Speaker 2: Who knows where we're going to go in that segment.

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Speaker 6: We'll also get to a little bit of NFL Championship

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Speaker 6: weekend talk. At the end of the show, we'll get

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Speaker 6: these guys to pick their winners who they think is

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Speaker 6: going to go to the super Bowl out of this

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Speaker 6: weekend's games.

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Speaker 2: But let's start.

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Speaker 6: First with the news that came out last week when

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Speaker 6: we'd already done our show. I haven't had a chance

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Speaker 6: to talk much about it. I think most of us

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Speaker 6: probably assumed that Mike McCarthy would be retained, and he was.

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Speaker 6: My first question is a big questure, big picture question.

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Speaker 6: What do you think or what do you like about

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Speaker 6: this decision to keep Mike McCarthy.

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Speaker 7: I like that they found an opportunity to split the

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Speaker 7: difference as far as the decision, because what I talked

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Speaker 7: about going into the decision was that there was a

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Speaker 7: lot of past evidence as to why they should retain

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Speaker 7: McCarthy when you talk about the regular season success, but

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Speaker 7: when you look at the monumental collapse against the Packers,

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Speaker 7: obviously there's reason to want to part ways with him.

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Speaker 7: So instead, what they did was say, you know what,

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Speaker 7: We're going to let you remain, but we're not going

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Speaker 7: to extend your contract, right. We're going to push you

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Speaker 7: into a proven year, not dissimilar to what they do

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Speaker 7: with a player, and say, if you want this extension,

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Speaker 7: go out there and earn it next year. So I

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Speaker 7: like that set up because it provides that added motivation

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Speaker 7: no twenty twenty five if things don't go well in

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Speaker 3: I like the continuity, you know, I think, just from

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Speaker 3: looks remarkably different than all the work that they did.

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Speaker 3: Maybe some players they didn't particularly like because they didn't fit,

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Speaker 9: But I'm just you know, while you're left in the contract,

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Speaker 3: let this contract run for Dak. That's what I'm I'm

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Speaker 3: see what happens, you know, and make a decision there.

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Speaker 3: I know they are people that talk about the potentially

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Speaker 3: you prove it, you prove that you deserve another contract.

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Speaker 3: You know. That's that's where I'm at. I know people

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Speaker 7: And what I'll say to that point, as far as

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Speaker 4: Well not necessarily, you got some options.

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Speaker 2: Let's put a pin in that one, because I actually

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Speaker 6: I want us to spend the entire show talking about

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Speaker 6: the future and Trey Lance and there's there's so many

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Speaker 2: we'll put a pin in that one.

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Speaker 6: Okay, let's go back to the coach though and McCarthy

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Speaker 3: He identified that they don't run the ball well enough.

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Speaker 3: And so to me, this is where now I'm gonna

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Speaker 7: I think the part that troubles me is trying to

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Speaker 4: You bullseyes to hit.

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Speaker 7: But the intangibles go to the mentality. So for example,

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Speaker 7: not as easy to attack as it would be saying, hey,

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Speaker 4: Let's work on that.

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Speaker 7: a team from a player standpoint, that becomes much more challenging.

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Speaker 7: So I'm interested to see how McCarthy directly attacks that

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Speaker 7: because if this team doesn't get that mental fortitude for

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think to me, the bad is.

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Speaker 9: One showing up having not shown I would say not

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Speaker 3: Ye play better? How about play better? If you care

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Speaker 3: You know, you don't need to drop the ball. Preach

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I agree with that. And I don't think Mike

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Speaker 8: So I think that the drive is still.

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Speaker 4: Going to be there, and I do really quickly.

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Speaker 7: I will say, in contrast to what we're talking about,

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Speaker 4: Through that slide. And it appears.

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Speaker 7: That they're going to keep Sirianni because they're swapping out

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Speaker 4: You've not seen.

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Speaker 7: Reports, quotes, tweets, or anything of that nature from Eagles

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Speaker 7: So those are two different contrasts, is what I mean.

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Speaker 7: You see this visibly with Cowboys players supporting and being

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Speaker 2: And that's I think we can assume that everybody.

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Speaker 6: What he's giving them is not enough fuel to get

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Speaker 6: When we come back, I'm gonna ask you, guys, like

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Speaker 6: Welcome back to second segment of The Break Live miss

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Speaker 6: WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star. We're talking about Mike

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Speaker 6: McCarthy and the big question I'd like to hear you

456
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Speaker 6: guys answer is how much faith do you have that.

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Speaker 2: Mike is actually moving this thing in the right direction?

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Speaker 6: Because as much as you can talk about postseason and

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Speaker 6: what games they've lost, the fact is they are twelve

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Speaker 6: and five three straight years, and have been in the

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Speaker 6: playoffs three straight years and have won the division two

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Speaker 6: out of those three years.

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Speaker 2: How convinced are you that he's moving them in the

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Speaker 2: right direction.

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Speaker 7: That's a tough one. You asked me this question before

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Speaker 7: the Packers game. I'm like, Yep, he's moving them in

467
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Speaker 7: the right direction. Absolutely, And then you run two hundred

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Speaker 7: miles power into a brick wall and you're like, this

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Speaker 7: is rough. I feel like, based upon everything that's occurred

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Speaker 7: prior to the Green Bay Packers game. Mike McCarthy is

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Speaker 7: moving the franchise in the right direction. Thirty six wins

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Speaker 7: over the past three seasons. You didn't see that with

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Speaker 7: Garrett or his predecessors. Okay, that's an absolute fact. But

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Speaker 7: there's this massive hump that needs to be gotten over

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Speaker 7: in the postseason, and based on what happened in this postseason,

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Speaker 7: I don't know that that's trending in the right pace

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Speaker 7: because literally it's not. You went from wildcard to divisional

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Speaker 7: and then you lose in the wildcard. You literally took

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Speaker 7: a step back and then you know, spectacularly poor fashion

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Speaker 7: as well. So regular season, yes, Cowboys are definitely on

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Speaker 7: the right track. Postseason, they took a massive step back.

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Speaker 7: And that's why I think the Cowboys did the right

483
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Speaker 7: made the right move to split the difference and say, okay,

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Speaker 7: well we'll give you one more shot at this, but

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Speaker 7: we're not going to extend it.

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Speaker 4: You got to prove it in twenty four.

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Speaker 3: You know, showed versus the seventh seed in the NFL

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Speaker 3: in the NFC playoffs, you know showed that's rough. And uh,

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Speaker 3: you know, twelve wins every year, beautiful win a division

490
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Speaker 3: beautiful appreciate that you're measured on playoff wins, You're measured

491
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Speaker 3: on championships, and he has failed in both categories to

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Speaker 3: this point. I'm not saying he can't. He can get

493
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Speaker 3: you to the playoffs. But the concern I have of

494
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Speaker 3: going in the right direction is not related to it's

495
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Speaker 3: the playoffs that bothers me because we've seen them lose

496
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Speaker 3: a variety of ways, and sometimes you didn't have the

497
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Speaker 3: good enough personnel other times, and Patrick, you said this,

498
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Speaker 3: you don't show up. You just didn't show up, You

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Speaker 3: didn't play. You were a better team than the Green

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Speaker 3: Bay Packers. Green Bay Packers had to fight their way

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Speaker 3: to get into this thing, and you had everything in

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Speaker 3: your path in front of you going the right direction

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Speaker 3: with the home games potentially two home playoff games, who know,

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Speaker 3: San Francisco could have gotten beat and then you would

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Speaker 3: have you know, maybe had three. But you had the

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Speaker 3: path and you did not take advantage of that. That

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Speaker 3: bothers me a lot.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean don't.

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Speaker 9: I don't have an answer because I was for sure

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Speaker 9: convinced that it was gonna happen this last year and

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Speaker 9: at least a wild card game. I thought that we're

512
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Speaker 9: gonna win for sure. There was no doubt in my

513
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Speaker 9: mind at all, and it didn't happen. So I don't

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Speaker 9: have the answer for you. I mean, I think he

515
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Speaker 9: can still take the team to the playoffs. But what

516
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Speaker 9: really sucks is that we're going to go through a

517
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Speaker 9: season where even good games, it won't matter because the

518
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 9: question will still be, yeah, can they win in the playoffs?

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Speaker 3: Brought that up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, by the way, I think that was the way

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Speaker 2: it was this year too.

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Speaker 6: To some degree, I think there are a lot of

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Speaker 6: people that no matter what was happening this year, they

524
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Speaker 6: were still like.

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Speaker 7: But now they get about because of what happened against

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Speaker 7: the Packers.

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Speaker 4: It's like, like you said, Troy Aikman made a great point.

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Speaker 7: He said, when you have to play a season like that,

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Speaker 7: which is the one coming up quote unquote, it makes

530
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Speaker 7: for a long year. And it does because it doesn't

531
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Speaker 7: matter how high your highs are over the course of

532
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Speaker 7: the next regular season. Doesn't Let's say you you go

533
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 7: in and you beat a top contender and you blow them,

534
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,359
Speaker 7: blow the doors off of them on their field. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: you can enjoy the highd the moment, but there's that

536
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:47,879
Speaker 7: thing that's hovering. It's like, okay, but January, but January,

537
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Speaker 7: but January. So yeah, it's going to make for a

538
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Speaker 7: long season, an unpleasant one. You enjoyed the ride while

539
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 7: it's happening, but that boogeyman in January is still waiting

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Speaker 7: for you.

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Speaker 6: You know, as I've thought about this over the last

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Speaker 6: week or so, I've come to a conclusion. I want

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Speaker 6: to get y'all's opinion on whether you think this is

544
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Speaker 6: stupid or not, but I'm starting to wonder if the

545
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:10,239
Speaker 6: weight of the Cowboys star is too much. And what

546
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Speaker 6: I mean by that is I've heard McCarthy talk about

547
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Speaker 6: how this is the first time he's ever seen this

548
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Speaker 6: in his years in the NFL, where there is so

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Speaker 6: much chatter about the team, especially when things go wrong,

550
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,719
Speaker 6: when you talk about fans, when you talk about media,

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Speaker 6: the level of talk and the level of just negativity

552
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Speaker 6: is so great. I'm starting to wonder if and again

553
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Speaker 6: I know players will say they don't listen to the

554
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 6: noise all that stuff. I don't believe that because I

555
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Speaker 6: think even if they try to avoid it, just like

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Speaker 6: all of us, you still got family members, you got

557
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,440
Speaker 6: friends that are still in your ear talking about where

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00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 6: they hurt this over here, or they heard this over here,

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Speaker 6: or what's going on over here? That all being said,

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Speaker 6: do you think it's gotten to a point where really

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Speaker 6: it is Getting of the hump is no longer about

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Speaker 6: x's and o's.

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Speaker 2: Getting over the hunt hump is mental because.

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Speaker 6: It's going to require them to not freeze up when

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Speaker 6: they get into a situation. I really believe you getting

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Speaker 6: that packers game. Packers take the ball, go down, score

567
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Speaker 6: and then things don't go well and they score again.

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Speaker 6: I personally believe there are probably a lot of guys

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Speaker 6: on that sideline that in the back of their minds

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Speaker 6: start thinking, I don't want to have to go through this,

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Speaker 6: like this is this is not gonna be good, and

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Speaker 6: you start getting tight and you start wondering how this

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Speaker 6: is gonna work. And I just think that the weight

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Speaker 6: of all of that, the weight of everything involved with it,

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Speaker 6: may be too much.

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Speaker 7: But see if that if that is in fact the

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Speaker 7: case for several of these guys, that goes back to

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Speaker 7: my initial concern and fear, which is the mental fortitude,

579
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Speaker 7: Because if that's the case, then what is the answer

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Speaker 7: other than to make sure that you have the players

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Speaker 7: in the building that have the mental fortitude to be

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Speaker 7: able to carry the weight of the star.

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Speaker 6: Okay, I understand that, But is there a point where

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Speaker 6: the weight is so heavy that there there aren't a

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Speaker 6: lot of people out there that are capable of doing that.

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Speaker 7: I wouldn't say so, because there's always going to be

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Speaker 7: somebody capable of carrying what this particular person is incapable

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Speaker 7: of carrying. It's about finding that person those persons and

589
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Speaker 7: or looking at the person that's in front of you

590
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Speaker 7: trying to figure out why are you unable to carry it?

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Speaker 4: Is there anything we can do to try to help

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Speaker 4: you carry it.

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Speaker 7: Let's be clear and that the weight of the Star

594
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Speaker 7: is heavier than any other logo in the NFL, arguably

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Speaker 7: any of the logo in sports, especially when you're talking

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Speaker 7: about you know, you have a very visible owner and

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Speaker 7: general manager, and you have the pressure to perform when

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Speaker 7: you're constantly being weighed up against the greatness that preceded

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Speaker 7: you and the length of time in which it preceded you.

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Speaker 7: We're talking about the nineties. You haven't had, you know,

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Speaker 7: that type of dominance in almost thirty years. So yes,

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Speaker 7: it's a ton of pressure. But the organization is putting

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Speaker 7: belief in you and money in your pocket to go

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Speaker 7: out there and have the mental fortitude to get the

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Speaker 7: job done. They're putting the pieces around you that bring

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Speaker 7: it in the Super Bowl winning coach from another legacy

607
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 7: organization like the Green Bay Packers, and then he's putting

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Speaker 7: guys around you, coaches around you, talented guys like El

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00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 7: Harris for example, position guys who can help make you better.

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Speaker 7: So then when it comes to the biggest moments the postseason,

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Speaker 7: if you're not mentally strong enough for that, then the

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Speaker 7: issue becomes much deeper, and there's no quick.

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Speaker 4: Fix for it, because the only fix is turnover. Right.

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Speaker 7: But the more you turn over and try to find

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Speaker 7: the guys who are prepared to do it, twenty eight

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Speaker 7: years becomes thirty five years becomes forty.

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Speaker 2: That's exact point that I'm making here.

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Speaker 4: Go ahead, right.

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Speaker 3: I feel like there were guys on the market and

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Speaker 3: coaching this year that could that still are on the market,

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Speaker 3: that know what pressure is and know how to handle

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Speaker 3: the pressure. When you're starting to talk about the Bill

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Speaker 3: Belichicks and the Jim Harbaughs and people like that, those

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Speaker 3: are guys to me that know how to handle pressure.

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Speaker 3: They know how to handle the winning side of things.

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Speaker 3: They deal with the losses. They know how they don't

627
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Speaker 3: lose very much. I know Belichick has struggled a little bit.

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Speaker 3: I think it's taken Mike McCarthy four years to realize

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Speaker 3: how tough this job really really is. You know, he

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00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 3: didn't have a lot of media coverage in Green Bay.

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Speaker 3: He didn't have Sean Payton told me this one time.

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Speaker 3: He says, Brian, you coach this football team. They know

633
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 3: your name in China. You know, that's where the That's

634
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Speaker 3: where we are right now. And I think that it

635
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 3: takes a special person to coach this football team. We

636
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Speaker 3: put one in the Ring of Honor the other day,

637
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Speaker 3: special people, and they have yet to find that special person,

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00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 3: Bill Parcells. I wish Bill Parcells was a lot younger

639
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Speaker 3: version of Bill Parcells when we got him here, because

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00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 3: I think he could have done some really good things,

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Speaker 3: you know, with the way his attitude and and the

642
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 3: way the team building and things like that. I think

643
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 3: that could have been a big difference. This is a

644
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 3: huge job and if you don't understand that, you're going

645
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 3: to get crushed. And you know, Mike McCarthy is probably

646
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 3: looking at himself going I've won thirty six games in

647
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Speaker 3: three years and I'm fighting for a contract extension. That's

648
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Speaker 3: not the attitude you need to take. You need to

649
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 3: figure out why you are not having success in the

650
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Speaker 3: playoffs and why you're not having championship success. That's what

651
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Speaker 3: you need to be measured by, not not wondering why

652
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Speaker 3: this is a this job? Is why am I not

653
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Speaker 3: getting this? Or why am I not getting that? That's

654
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Speaker 3: your mental fortitude question right there, don't you know? You're

655
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Speaker 3: the one that told us that you were going to

656
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Speaker 3: run the football. You didn't run the football, and now

657
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Speaker 3: you're wondering why we're questioning that. Come on, sir, really

658
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Speaker 3: that's not That's not that this is a big job.

659
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 3: There's a lot of people around this world that put

660
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 3: everything into this football team. They're just asking for you

661
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 3: to deliver. That's what they're asking.

662
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Speaker 9: Well, all right, bear with me in this explanation of mine.

663
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 9: But I think it doesn't affect on game day, like

664
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Speaker 9: when you go out there, you block everything out. You know,

665
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 9: I've never played football or anything like that, But what

666
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 9: I can compare it to is, for example, when I

667
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 9: was doing modeling and being on a runway minute, like

668
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 9: right before stepping on stage, I'm a wreck. But as

669
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 9: soon as you stepped your foot on that stage, you

670
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 9: just black blank out. You block out all the noise.

671
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 8: You're just okay.

672
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 2: Can I stop you for a second. I want to

673
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 2: ask you a question. Have you ever fallen when.

674
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 4: You were on the runway. I know that's what he's

675
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 4: going with it.

676
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 2: No, okay, it stumbled. No, let me, let me let

677
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 2: me because here's why I'm going with this. Let's assume.

678
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 6: Let's assume that you got out there one time and

679
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 6: you'd blocked out all the noise, and you're going down

680
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 6: that runway and you're having a great walk down this runway,

681
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 6: and all of a sudden, you tumble, and you tumble bad.

682
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 2: You've tumbled off the stage.

683
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 6: The next time you go on that stage, you think

684
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 6: you're gonna be able to block everything out at that point.

685
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 9: I mean, obviously that's not easy, and I'm trying to

686
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 9: think of it. That hasn't happened to me. But I'll

687
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 9: say this, I think it matters a lot the people

688
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 9: surrounding you. Yes, you're gonna have a bunch of people

689
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 9: like in the audience, but the people you're around with

690
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 9: other models. I say, players around you, how's that support system?

691
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 9: If they make me feel comfortable and like, hey you

692
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 9: got this whatever, I'm good and you kind of okay whatever.

693
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 9: You'll probably think about it at night, but in the moment,

694
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 9: you just keep going.

695
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 8: You just go in this game mode.

696
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 9: But aside from that, I think game day it's totally different.

697
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 8: Animal.

698
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 9: I think you're more just in it and this is

699
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 9: your element and this is what you gotta do to me.

700
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 9: It lies more on the preparation leading up to the game.

701
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 9: We know how many people deal with anxiety. We know

702
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 9: how many people just mentally that's stuff, and I think

703
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 9: that's where it plays an element. I wonder, and I

704
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 9: don't know how they manage all of this. And remember

705
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 9: heading into the game. Right before the game started, I

706
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 9: talked to you, Derek, and I'm like, hey, how do

707
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 9: these players do it? Heading into their like I'm nervous,

708
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 9: and I'm just here as an expectator watching and I'm nervous.

709
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 9: So I think, what does that preparation throughout the week

710
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 9: looks like? Because that's very hard to handle. And again

711
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 9: I don't promote drugs. I don't promote anything like that,

712
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 9: but you know, essential oils, relaxation, music, meditation, there are

713
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 9: different ways natural. Yeah, what kind of natural though, here's

714
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 9: what I said, But I just think that's in me

715
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 9: in that game, what I saw the Cowboys do, it

716
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 9: just felt like there was no preparation throughout the week

717
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 9: leading up to the game. Because if there was, and

718
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 9: this is just me as speculating or trying to find

719
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 9: the reason.

720
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 8: Because if they was.

721
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 9: If there was, you just kind of go into game

722
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 9: like you just go get into that switch just clicks

723
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 9: and you just do what you're supposed to do.

724
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 2: But I understand that.

725
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 6: But I guess where I'm going is, I do think

726
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 6: that if you've continuously stumbled, and not only that you

727
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 6: can have whoever you want around you from the player standpoint,

728
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 6: but you also are getting heckled when you go out.

729
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 2: Your kids might be getting heckled.

730
00:33:55,960 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 6: Like over time, there are the wounds that happen from

731
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 6: the stumbles that now I think you can get into

732
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 6: a game, and again, unless you are just one of

733
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,879
Speaker 6: those people who is just extremely focused and knows how

734
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 6: to knows how to overcome that kind of stuff. In

735
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,320
Speaker 6: a way, I look at Lamar Jackson's on the screen

736
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 6: right there. He's a guy that's been through a lot

737
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 6: of people talking, and it seems like he's kind of

738
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 6: just resolute in his mind at this point.

739
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 2: I don't care. I'm about to make this like.

740
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 6: You got to have that kind of focus, mentality, and

741
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 6: skill in order to overcome it. And I do wonder

742
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 6: if because of all the stumbles that have happened over

743
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 6: all these years, I do wonder if at some point and.

744
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 8: Again, but the carry is that same weight.

745
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 9: You have so many new coaches and position, but.

746
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 6: They are also a part of the same thing you

747
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 6: were talking about earlier. Even though they're not responsible for

748
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 6: what happened five years ago, ten years ago, whatever, they

749
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 6: still get those messages from people that are like, man,

750
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 6: y'all are laughing, y'all are the laughing stock, Like y'all

751
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:59,359
Speaker 6: all the joke. So it's still now weighs on them.

752
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 6: Even though they didn't have anything to do with what

753
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,839
Speaker 6: happened in two thousand and seven, they didn't have anything

754
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 6: to do with what happened in twenty fourteen. The fact

755
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 6: is they're still having to deal with that because people

756
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 6: are still looking at them and saying things to them

757
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 6: and basically deriding them for what happened back then, and

758
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 6: now they've become a part of the narrative because of

759
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,320
Speaker 6: what happened to them against the package. All My point

760
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 6: is is I do wonder, and I'm not saying it

761
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,800
Speaker 6: is or isn't. It makes me wonder if the pressure

762
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 6: and the weight of all of this has gotten so

763
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 6: large and so great that it will be very difficult

764
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 6: for it to find a group of men who are

765
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 6: capable of overcoming that.

766
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 7: I think the pressure is real, the weight of the

767
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 7: star is real, and it goes to the level of success,

768
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 7: and that the organization has reached versus the level of

769
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 7: struggle that they've had since that success, because you have

770
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 7: this drought and these spectacular losses and things like that.

771
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 7: But using Ambar's analogy, for example, let's say you got

772
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 7: a roadway model, all right, So let's say Heidi Klumb, right,

773
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:58,800
Speaker 7: Heidi Klum is one who set.

774
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 4: The bar right modeling. Let's say.

775
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 7: You have three or four up and coming models after

776
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 7: Heidi Klum. They want to get the Heidi Klum status,

777
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,439
Speaker 7: but they're always going to be measured by what Heidi

778
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,280
Speaker 7: Kluhn was able to do. Let's say three of those

779
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 7: four up and coming models post Heidi Klum all fell

780
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 7: on stage. You haven't yet because you haven't gone out

781
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 7: there yet, right, But now it's your turn to go

782
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 7: out there. I guarantee you the first thing you're thinking

783
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 7: about is don't stumble like the previous ones stumbled.

784
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 4: Also whilst keeping in mind that you have to meet

785
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 4: the bar that Heidi Klum set.

786
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 7: So to Derek's point, this is what he's saying mentally,

787
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,879
Speaker 7: this is everything you're up against. It's not your fault

788
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 7: that the previous models stumbled out there. But now that

789
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 7: you're about to go out there, the audience is probably

790
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 7: waiting for you to stumble because the moment you stumble,

791
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 7: now they get to jump on top of that as

792
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 7: well and say, see, this is why they'll never be

793
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 7: Heidi Klumb. But also you have to look at what

794
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 7: HEII was able to achieve and wonder to yourself, am

795
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 7: I good enough to do that? And see now you

796
00:36:58,040 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 7: have you know your self with the negative self to

797
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 7: and things like that. So I understand one hundred percent

798
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 7: with Derek is saying, I feel like the solution is

799
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 7: simply making sure you have the right people in the building.

800
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 7: And it's also easier said than done. When you're talking

801
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 7: about the Cowboys, the Cleveland Browns don't have the same issue.

802
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 7: The Jaguars don't, the Titans don't, the Falcons certainly don't.

803
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,800
Speaker 7: Falcons go out and they can have four more losing

804
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 7: seasons and yeah, we'll be you know, NFL fans will

805
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 7: be talking about them. But if the Cowboys have one

806
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 7: losing season, it's talked about infinitely more than a team

807
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,800
Speaker 7: that hasn't really won much having ten consecutive losing seasons.

808
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 7: The standard becomes the standard, and the next person has

809
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 7: to be the the you know, the burden bearer for

810
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 7: the standard that was laid for them.

811
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 3: If you're on that runway, you ain't worried about stumbling.

812
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,280
Speaker 3: That's my opinion. You're there for a reason.

813
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:48,840
Speaker 4: You shouldn't be worried about it.

814
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 3: You ain't worried about stumbling. I hear it. If you're

815
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 3: in that If you're not, you shouldn't be worried about stumbling.

816
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 4: You're right.

817
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 3: You should. You were you were, you were. You were

818
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 3: putting that position for a reason, you know, whether it's

819
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 3: your talent, your looks, whatever it is. But you're not

820
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 3: worried about that. You're just worrying about walking down there,

821
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 3: turning around and coming back and changing your outfit and

822
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 3: doing it again and again and again and again. That's

823
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:13,359
Speaker 3: where this team lacks. Sometimes they can't do that. They

824
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 3: can't get on that stage and walk straight and not stumble,

825
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 3: you know, even though they should be there, right, And

826
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 3: that's that's the problem.

827
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 6: And that's the point, Like, you're absolutely right, you shouldn't

828
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 6: like that's the point of brainwashing.

829
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm just saying I've watched a lot of crime documentaries.

830
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 8: Washing is a real thing.

831
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 9: It's a real thing that narcissist or whatever due to

832
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 9: other people to manipulate.

833
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 8: I'm just saying I'm not I don't don't you is

834
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 8: there anything you.

835
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 2: Could don't We're against everything. I'm not sure what we

836
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 2: actually do can don't. All right, let's take our final break.

837
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 3: Come back.

838
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 6: Brian's got a question for the table. We'll jump into

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Speaker 6: Final segment of The Break Life from the SWBC Mortgage

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Speaker 6: Studios at the Star. Chris, We're probably gonna run a

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00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 6: little long because we were already at about three and

890
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 6: a half minutes left in the show, and we got

891
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Speaker 6: so much more we got to talk about.

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Speaker 2: So, Brian, it's your show.

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00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 3: What you got? Okay? I got a question last night.

894
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 3: Bobby and I were doing the Love of the Star

895
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 3: podcast that we do every week, and we had a

896
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 3: question last night from a gentleman named Matt Hollerin. I

897
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Speaker 3: want to give him credit for this question. And Matt

898
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 3: asked this question. He said, of the following hypothetical duos,

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Speaker 3: which do you pick to bring back in free agency?

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Speaker 3: So I'm going to give you a pair of players

901
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 3: and you have to determine which one of the pair

902
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 3: of players you would like to bring back in free agency.

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00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 3: Jack one pair, that's it, let's get it. First pair

904
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Speaker 3: is Tyron Smith and Georg's Armstrong. Second pair is Jordan

905
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 3: Lewis and Tyler Biottish, Third pair is Gilmore and Fowler.

906
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 3: Fourth pair is Pollard and Hankins.

907
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Speaker 2: What was the last one?

908
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Speaker 3: Pollard and Hankins. So there's you have to it's a

909
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 3: hypothetical duo in which one would you bring back in

910
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 3: free agency Smith, Armstrong, Lewis Beatdish, Gilmore Fowler, Pollard Hankins.

911
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 3: You can only you can only bring one back.

912
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Speaker 6: That's easy for me. Gilmore Fowler. I think you get

913
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 6: your best combo there. I am of the belief that

914
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Speaker 6: I agree with you. Brian on Foul I think he

915
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 6: was vastly underused. He's a great third pass rusher, so

916
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Speaker 6: I want him back.

917
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Speaker 2: And Gilmore.

918
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Speaker 6: I think with cornerback you never have too many, as

919
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Speaker 6: we saw this year, so give me that back. I

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Speaker 6: don't think. I think Gilmore was a good player for

921
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Speaker 6: them all season. I don't want to have to to

922
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Speaker 6: necessarily go into this season with if you don't have

923
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Speaker 6: Lewis too, you know only two cornerbacks that are proven

924
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Speaker 6: on the squad, So I'll go with Gilmore Fowler.

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Speaker 2: It's easy for me.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Well, you were breaking yours down. I was circling

927
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 7: through them in my head and I could see the

928
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Speaker 7: tyrant duo and endurance because Dorrance has way more value

929
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 7: than Cowboys fans give give him credit for.

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Speaker 6: At what point are you gonna be willing to tear

931
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Speaker 6: that band aid off Dorrans no tyro.

932
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Speaker 3: If they told me that they were going to move

933
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Speaker 3: the left guard the left tackle, I would be a lot.

934
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Speaker 3: I would think about it, matter of fact, But they're not.

935
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Speaker 6: So what they what do they go first round and

936
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Speaker 6: take a left tackle?

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Speaker 3: Uh, that's a great possibility of doing that. The potential

938
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Speaker 3: of that would be I think that would be the

939
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Speaker 3: best way to probably go right now. But there's there's

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Speaker 3: several linebackers that you could probably grab there too that

941
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 3: would probably help it. Mean, but if you keep your

942
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 3: open mind about it.

943
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Speaker 4: Uh.

944
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Speaker 3: To me, I I kind of feel like I'll let

945
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Speaker 3: it bell sque ahead. I'm sorry.

946
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Speaker 7: I mean, I'm gonna I'm gonna go with Gilmore Fouler

947
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 7: as well. You didn't get to see the Gilmore Diggs duo,

948
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 7: and now that Doron Bland has truly truly broken out,

949
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Speaker 7: I want to see Bland, Gilmore and Digs, and obviously

950
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Speaker 7: I would love to retain join Lewis as well as

951
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 7: that rotational guy who can be an impact guy as

952
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 7: well Fouler. What I was thinking of, I was trying

953
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 7: to figure out if I was ready or not to fully,

954
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 7: not incrementally, but fully unleash Sam Williams. I need to

955
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 7: see his penalties decrease first before I can fully give

956
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 7: him the keys to that particular role. So for that

957
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 7: give me Dante Fowler. Continue to impress so yet no spinking.

958
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 7: So yeah, I don't condone penalties. I do not condone penalties.

959
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 7: So yeah, I'm gonna take Gilmore, Gilmore Fouler combo.

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00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 9: For some reason, I'm leaning towards Jordan and Tyler be Oddish.

961
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Speaker 8: And Gilmore.

962
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Speaker 9: I think he's still very, very talented, so is Fouler.

963
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 8: But I don't know.

964
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 9: I don't know why, but something about me just feels like,

965
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:09,320
Speaker 9: you know, they're getting up there in a like age. Sorry,

966
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 9: nothing against older people, I'm old, but but for some reason,

967
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 9: I'm leaning I'm just more drawn to Tyler Padish and Jordan.

968
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 9: I think that Tyler has he's He's been criticized quite

969
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 9: a lot, but I think he was affected by the

970
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 9: injury Earlier this season. I thought he was going to

971
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 9: have a really, really, really great season. The way he

972
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 9: was playing at training camp and his aggressiveness, his toughness

973
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:47,360
Speaker 9: was he just he took a huge Yeah, but I

974
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 9: do think he's still a very valuable player for the offense.

975
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Speaker 9: And then Jordan, he's one of those guys that is

976
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:58,720
Speaker 9: easily forgotten. He tends he's gotten quite a few injuries

977
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 9: throughout his career, but he is healthy and on the field,

978
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:03,879
Speaker 9: I think he's one of those guys that is still

979
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 9: pretty solid for your defense. That a position that you

980
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 9: do need.

981
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Speaker 3: So the Pollard, the Pollard Hankins one does nothing for anybody.

982
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 6: I like Hankins. I'd like to Handkack does. I'm good

983
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:16,359
Speaker 6: with moving on.

984
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 4: The running game was too it was too par for me.

985
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 7: And that's not to say I wouldn't like to have

986
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 7: Pollard back, But the Pollard I would like to have

987
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 7: back is the twenty twenty two version, and I don't

988
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 7: know that you get that if you don't have a

989
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 7: bruiser like Zeke tied to it.

990
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 6: I honestly wonder like I would love the idea of

991
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:34,800
Speaker 6: bringing in a younger back that is more my starter

992
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 6: and having Pollard as my second back. Sure now, if

993
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 6: I did that, though it's Pollard willing to take second

994
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 6: back money.

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00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 2: That's the part that's a little bit hard.

996
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Speaker 6: When you've been the guy, it's hard sometimes to get

997
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 6: you to go back to being the second guy. But

998
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Speaker 6: that would be the scenario where I'd want to have

999
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 6: Pollard backcause if he was in a rotation and I

1000
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Speaker 6: had another guy that I was kind of grooming to

1001
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Speaker 6: be the man.

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Speaker 7: I one hundred percent want Hanks back. That's what makes

1003
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Speaker 7: that challenging one.

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Speaker 6: And that's also kind of I feel about Lewis, And

1005
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Speaker 6: be honest, I want Louis. I think you could probably

1006
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Speaker 6: upgrade your center position. I actually want to see if

1007
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 6: Bass can play it personally.

1008
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 3: But sure, the one I picked was I picked Smith

1009
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Speaker 3: and Armstrong as the one I picked just because I

1010
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,800
Speaker 3: think you've figured out what to do with Tyron Smith.

1011
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 3: I still think he's playing at a high level. Sure

1012
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 3: you're probably going to miss him for a couple of games,

1013
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 3: but I know when he wasn't in there, that offense

1014
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 3: was a little bit different too, you know. And the

1015
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 3: fact that they're not I don't believe they're going to

1016
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 3: move Tyler Smith. So if they're going to keep Tyler Smith,

1017
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 3: that I'm gonna you know, I think you can address

1018
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 3: the left tackle position in the draft. There's clearly some

1019
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:39,399
Speaker 3: first round tackles that are really, really good. Some guys

1020
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 3: like they're going to fall into the second round. But

1021
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:44,320
Speaker 3: I think you've kind of figured things out for Tyron Smith.

1022
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:47,399
Speaker 3: Just don't practice him playing and he plays at a really,

1023
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 3: really high level. And the fact that Armstrong I'd love

1024
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 3: to have if I'd love to flip Fowler and Armstrong there.

1025
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 3: But I think you're right about Armstrong. I don't think

1026
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,439
Speaker 3: people give him nearly enough, give enough credit.

1027
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 2: Let me ask you, are you are you at all

1028
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:00,800
Speaker 2: concerned that?

1029
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 6: Because I know what you're saying about tyrannt uh and

1030
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:06,399
Speaker 6: I agree he's played. He played really well this year

1031
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 6: when he was out there.

1032
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 4: Are you at all.

1033
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 6: Concerned though, that the injury crops up at a time

1034
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:13,359
Speaker 6: when you can at least afford it. Let's say you're

1035
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 6: heading into a playoff game and now you get to

1036
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 6: a Friday, his back starts acting.

1037
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:20,800
Speaker 3: Oh no, that's that's that's the danger. That's the tightrope

1038
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 3: that you walk between, you know, between the uh there

1039
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 3: and so I to me, I, yeah, I understand that,

1040
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 3: But I don't know, man, I'm thinking about what do

1041
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 3: I need or what I'm just gonna have to look

1042
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 3: at my draft board and determine are my tackles better

1043
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 3: than say, other defensive positions that you might look.

1044
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:40,799
Speaker 2: At there line back.

1045
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 3: I think I think the main offensive position that you

1046
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 3: would look at would be offensive. I think the main

1047
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 3: position you would look at at center. To be honest

1048
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 3: with you, yeah, you know, and that's why that kind

1049
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 3: of the Lewis. I love what Jordan Lewis has done,

1050
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 3: but I think I could put Bland back there at

1051
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 3: back at Nickel and kind of work around, you know,

1052
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 3: another corner to put in, you know, for my for

1053
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 3: my nickel packages to kind of take care of that.

1054
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 3: I do feel like you have to upgrade the center.

1055
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 11: I do.

1056
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 3: There's times where he played well, the communication was good,

1057
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:13,720
Speaker 3: but I just think you need one of the reasons

1058
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 3: why you did not run the ball very well. Three

1059
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 3: of them in my mind. The center, the right tackle

1060
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 3: coming back from injury, and you're then you're tight end

1061
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 3: who you drafted in the second round did not give

1062
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 3: you the point of attack blocking that you thought you.

1063
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 2: Were from him, ironic, because that was the part you

1064
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 2: thought coming in. He was immediately got it was going

1065
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 2: to be because of what he did, what he did at.

1066
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Speaker 6: Michigan and UH and really didn't see the benefit of

1067
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 6: that initially as as we would have expected.

1068
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Speaker 13: Me.

1069
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Speaker 9: It's like it's hard. It's hard enough finding Lineman, but

1070
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 9: also to me, I just see tackle as a higher

1071
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:52,319
Speaker 9: position of need right now personally, and Tyron Smith love him,

1072
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 9: but I can't. I can't handle the stress.

1073
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:56,359
Speaker 8: I I can't.

1074
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 7: I think I think you can get stress. I can

1075
00:49:58,239 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 7: get one more year out of him. But like Brian said,

1076
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 7: you go to miss him for a couple of games.

1077
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 7: The question is what games will those be? Are we

1078
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:06,839
Speaker 7: talking about, you know, week two?

1079
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:08,800
Speaker 6: If you can guarantee me it's going to be a

1080
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Speaker 6: regular season game and not a postseason game, then I'm

1081
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 6: all in eighteen ye determined?

1082
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 2: That's exactly right?

1083
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 6: All right, real quick, before we end the show, let's

1084
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 6: go ahead and get some predictions on the NFL Championship weekend.

1085
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 6: You got Kansas City at Baltimore, Detroit at San Francisco.

1086
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:25,840
Speaker 6: Let start first with the AFC. Who's gonna win Kansas

1087
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Speaker 6: City or Baltimore.

1088
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Speaker 7: Oh man, this is going to be so much fun

1089
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 7: to watch. I hate to go against my homes. He's

1090
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 7: just in Dutch, but Lamar is on one he is

1091
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 7: and they're home. So if this game was in Kansas City.

1092
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Speaker 7: I go with the Chiefs, but it's Lamar and they

1093
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 7: are on one and they're in Baltimore. Going with the Ravens.

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00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 3: Give me Baltimore, and give me Baltimore and give me

1095
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 3: Detroit my two.

1096
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 9: I don't want to be this person, but I am.

1097
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 9: The more we move ahead, the more I'm starting to

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00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:06,240
Speaker 9: believe this conspiracy theory of the logo and the colors

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00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 9: in the Super Bowl logo.

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Speaker 6: So give me the Ravens, all right, And I think

1101
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 6: it's gonna be casey until somebody shows me they can

1102
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:16,320
Speaker 6: beat that quarterback.

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00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:18,479
Speaker 4: Then I'm gonna go with their receiver. It's gonna drop something,

1104
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 4: I hear you.

1105
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:21,800
Speaker 6: But until they show me this somebody can beat that quarterback,

1106
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:24,240
Speaker 6: I'm gonna say I'm going that quarterback now, Brian.

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00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:25,240
Speaker 3: You already said Detroit Detroit.

1108
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 2: I also agree with that.

1109
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 6: I think Detroit gets the upset this week, especially if

1110
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 6: Deebo doesn't play, which right now we don't know whether

1111
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 6: Devo is gonna be able to play. If he's out,

1112
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 6: I think Detroit goes up there and get.

1113
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 3: To History will tell you one road team will win

1114
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:38,439
Speaker 3: this thing. It might be Kansas City, but the guy's

1115
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 3: talking about.

1116
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 4: It might be.

1117
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 7: I'm taking Lions. I think the Packers could have defeated

1118
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:45,359
Speaker 7: the forty nine ers at Levy Stadium, and it took

1119
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 7: that one terrible decision by Jordan Love to guarantee the

1120
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 7: forty nine ers or even playing this weekend. And the

1121
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 7: Lions are there on one as well. They're playing well

1122
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 7: on defense, they're playing well on offense. I think the

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00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 7: Lions get it done.

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00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 3: Tough team to beat a tough team.

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00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 9: Yep, I do like the Lions better. But sticking to

1126
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 9: the theory red and purple, so forty nine ers.

1127
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:08,800
Speaker 7: You're all in forty nine. We're not letting the Baltimore

1128
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 7: forty nine ers can't get their sixth first. Like, no, no,

1129
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 7: let's just put that out there.

1130
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 8: Hey, I don't, I don't.

1131
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 7: I didn't.

1132
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 8: I didn't make the rules.

1133
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:20,720
Speaker 6: I did keep it that way, all right, We appreciate

1134
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 6: you guys. Jonas were back next week and we're talking

1135
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 6: quarterback next week. I think unless there's some news obviously

1136
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 6: that it comes up. But unless that happens, we're definitely

1137
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 6: gonna talk quarterback next week and talk about Dak Prescott,

1138
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:33,919
Speaker 6: talk about the entire quarterback situation and what it looks

1139
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:35,479
Speaker 6: like for the Cowboys and what we think will happen

1140
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 6: going into this offseason and into next season.

1141
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 3: Checheck it. Yeah, check out the Draft show tomorrow.

1142
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 6: Yep, absolutely Draft show tomorrow. In case you haven't looked

1143
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 6: at the site, go check out. We got all the

1144
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:46,799
Speaker 6: shows every We got two to three shows every day,

1145
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 6: so you saw plenty of content. Be able to check

1146
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:51,280
Speaker 6: out till then for Patrick Walker, Brian brought us at Ambergarcia.

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Speaker 6: I'm Derek Eagles and this has been the Break live

1148
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Speaker 6: on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio.

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1150
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