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Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to a new and improved edition of

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Speaker 1: Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford,

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Speaker 1: joined in the same room for the first time in

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Speaker 1: the season by my trusted colleague Wes Hodkowitz West. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to our new studio here at Well. What's cool, Mike,

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Speaker 1: because you've been a part of this now for a while.

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Speaker 1: You've been doing our own scripts here I think the

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Speaker 1: last what seventeen eighteen of them in our grand new

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Speaker 1: studio here at lambeau Field when I've been stuck in

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Speaker 1: my boss Barber's office. So I'm happy to join you. Finally.

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Speaker 1: We are managing this the best that we can. But

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Speaker 1: I'd be lying if I said it didn't feel to

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Speaker 1: have just a small bit of normalcy seeing your beautiful

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Speaker 1: face here on this wonderful Tuesday. Well, the feeling is mutual,

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Speaker 1: my friend. So before we get going here, I do

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Speaker 1: and sixty five days a year. All right West. The

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Speaker 1: Packers bye week has concluded and they are getting ready

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Speaker 1: for a trip to Tampa Bay to take on the Buccaneers.

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Speaker 1: The Packers are four and oh. The offense is ranked

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Speaker 1: among the best in the league. The defense is ranked

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Speaker 1: middle of the pack in various important categories. I want

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Speaker 1: to just get your thoughts here. Offensively, this has been

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Speaker 1: the story that's dominating the Green Bay Packers in how efficient,

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Speaker 1: how productive the offense has been. But we always hear

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Speaker 1: from Matt Lafleur. You look at the film, Yes, there

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Speaker 1: are always ways to improve. So on the offensive side

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Speaker 1: of the ball. As the Packers are coming out of

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Speaker 1: potential area of improvement. Well, I think the one thing

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Speaker 1: I would like to see, especially now, is you see

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Speaker 1: the offensive line. They finally have a set five. It

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Speaker 1: appears to be with Lucas Patrick at right guard and

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Speaker 1: Billy Turner right tackle. I think they have a good

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Speaker 1: feeling for what they have in the backfield. I basically

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Speaker 1: isolated in those red zone situations where I think they

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Speaker 1: can take that next step. Now, it's interesting they've actually

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Speaker 1: been pretty productive when they're kind of between that five

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Speaker 1: passes to Robert Tanian against the Falcons, some of the

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Speaker 1: plays that they've generated there. But when you get more

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Speaker 1: towards those golden goal situations, that's where it's been kind

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Speaker 1: of hit or miss for them at this point. They've

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Speaker 1: had some great triumphs there and they've gotten stopped twice

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Speaker 1: in fourth and goal from the only one. Obviously Jay

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Speaker 1: Alexander sort of bailed them out of that last one,

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Speaker 1: and then certainly it happened again there against the Falcons.

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Speaker 1: But I think if they can find the right remedy there,

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Speaker 1: and that was one thing that after that game, Matt

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Speaker 1: la Flour kind of you know, lamented the call and

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Speaker 1: in some of the things he wished he could have

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Speaker 1: changed because I'll tell you what, Mike, in the eighty

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Speaker 1: yards in the middle of that field, the Packers have

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Speaker 1: been really difficult to stop. It's just a question of, okay,

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Speaker 1: when the defense is then able to condense a little

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Speaker 1: bit more still winning those downs. I think if the

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Speaker 1: Packers really you know, harness that area this game, uh,

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Speaker 1: they're going to be really a force here in the

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Speaker 1: second I guess technically second quarter of the season I

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Speaker 1: you there. I mean, this is definitely nitpicking with the

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Speaker 1: way the offense is rolling and the points that it

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Speaker 1: has been putting up. But if I were to point

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Speaker 1: to one area, I would say short yardage. And it

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Speaker 1: goes along with what you said. You mentioned the two

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Speaker 1: the Falcons where the Packers were stopped. They were also

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Speaker 1: New Orleans. Now, as it turned out, none of those

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Speaker 1: But when you look at the fact that if you

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Speaker 1: take out the uh the kneel downs at the end

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Speaker 1: of the half or the end of the game, you

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Speaker 1: take those possessions out, the Packers have scored on twenty

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Speaker 1: seven out of thirty five possessions so far in four games.

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Speaker 1: And when you look at three of those stops we're

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Speaker 1: like super super close to almost literally being unstoppable. So

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Speaker 1: you know, the Packers have options in the backfield. Aaron

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Speaker 1: if the Packers shore up that we heard from Matt

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Speaker 1: Lafleur all last season about wanting to be in those

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Speaker 1: manageable down and distances on third down, you get into

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Speaker 1: third and short and fourth and short, the Packers, the

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Speaker 1: Packers can convert those at a better rate, and if

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Speaker 1: And one thing that you know, we talked about that,

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Speaker 1: but I actually really do like the aggressiveness that Matt

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Speaker 1: Laflour has shown in those situations. That think absolutely I agree.

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Speaker 1: If you go back about ten years, Mike, there was

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Speaker 1: always like this pressure, Okay, this is where you maybe

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Speaker 1: there is something about that field position advantage that a

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Speaker 1: probably the hallmarks of this year's team time of possession

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Speaker 1: great opportunities in terms of where they've started from, and

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Speaker 1: even in those situations, whether it was the JayR Alexander

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Speaker 1: an advantageous situation in that regard. And you know, you

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Speaker 1: want to do, you know, all gas, no break, you

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Speaker 1: definitely done that. Again, it's just about taking that next

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Speaker 1: I mean, you look offensively, whether it's total yards, points production,

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Speaker 1: few in the league right now have done what Green

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Speaker 1: Bay has done. Yeah, absolutely well. On the defensive side

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Speaker 1: of the ball, What would you pinpoint as the most

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Speaker 1: important area of improvement for Mike Petton and his career. Well,

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Speaker 1: we saw it in the Atlanta game. It's the run defense.

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Speaker 1: And that's the one benefit that I think we've seen.

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Speaker 1: As many injuries as the Packers have had to deal

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Speaker 1: That means that Tyler Lancaster has to step up at

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Speaker 1: of those guys did that. They lost Kamal Martin at

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Speaker 1: of nowhere. He has to be the rundown linebacker. Christian

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Speaker 1: what ultimately happened. The Packers did take some bumps and

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Speaker 1: even if they don't have Kerksy out there, they can

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Speaker 1: be a good run defense, and I thought the defensive

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Speaker 1: to see what happens with Kirksy. Kamal Martin returned to

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Speaker 1: I think that's gonna pay dividends for the Packers in

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Speaker 1: the long run. Yeah, I agree with you. I think

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Speaker 1: the the way Mike Petton has been forced to UH

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Speaker 1: some of these guys, especially a young guy like Barnes

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Speaker 1: and undrafted rookie UH certainly falls into that category. We'll see,

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Speaker 1: as you mentioned Kamal Martin getting back to practice if

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Speaker 1: within the next few weeks, maybe he's able to get

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Speaker 1: I agree with you there. If I were to point

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Speaker 1: the bye week, tackling and takeaways. I think those are

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Speaker 1: the two areas that Mike Patton's defense can improve upon.

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Speaker 1: I thought the first two games of the season, the

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Speaker 1: But the last two games the Saints and the Falcons,

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Speaker 1: we all know what happened in New Orleans with the

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Speaker 1: in the sense that the the miss tackles actually prevented

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Speaker 1: some ways this goes hand in hand because if you

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Speaker 1: Falcons because of the mistackles. Over All, the Packers are

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Speaker 1: plus three in the turnover margin through four games. That's

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Speaker 1: But they're plus three mostly because the offense has zero

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Speaker 1: turnovers the defense only has three takeaways, and three takeaways

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Speaker 1: through four games, there have been opportunities for more. I

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Speaker 1: think if the Packers start to capitalize defensively on those opportunities,

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Speaker 1: we will start to see a different look to this

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Speaker 1: funny you bring that up, because this defense is different

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Speaker 1: when they're in second and third and long just the

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Speaker 1: way they can use the Darius Smith changes. And as

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Speaker 1: I mentioned with Kingsley Kiki, you know, with Kenny Clark

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Speaker 1: coming back here, the number of ways that Mike Patton

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Speaker 1: doesn't have to be in eighty five percent defensive, you know,

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Speaker 1: on rundowns given the situation. That's what they needed to

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Speaker 1: real big positive for green Bay was Rashawn Gary being

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Speaker 1: You've seen the way that they can move all those

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Speaker 1: just a momentum shift that you feel in a lot

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Speaker 1: I don't know if we actually saw the Packers best

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Speaker 1: We're starting to see maybe the Packer, the Packers best

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Speaker 1: regard to the Seahawks, that is a team that has

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Speaker 1: say the Seattle Seahawks aren't playing their best football, but

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Speaker 1: I think it will. And Seattle right now is is

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's any you know, wrong reason to

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, and now he has a weapon in DK

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Speaker 1: Metcalf that has averaging two yards per catch. Right now,

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Speaker 1: when you have that type of explosivity to your offense,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what your defense does. Ask the two

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Speaker 1: thousand eleven Packers. I mean, that's just the way it goes.

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Speaker 1: So you have to score the opposition in Through the

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Speaker 1: first five games this season, Seattle has done just that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right, Well with that, we will call it a

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Speaker 1: wrap on this edition of Packers Unscripted. Be sure to

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Speaker 1: Packers dot com for Wes, I am Mike. Thank you

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