1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to brain Stuff, a production of iHeart Radio. Hey 2 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: They're brain Stuff, Lauren Vogelbaum Here. They lived about thirty 3 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: million years apart and never set foot on the same continent. 4 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 1: Yet Giganetosaurus carolini i is always getting compared to the 5 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: world's most popular dinosaur, the beloved and well known Torannosaurus rex. 6 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: Toranosaurus rex has been a media darling since arguably nineteen 7 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: o six, when The New York Times called it the 8 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:35,599 Speaker 1: prize fighter of antiquity. Named just one year prior, this 9 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: big beast was already making a splash over at the 10 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 1: American Museum of Natural History in Manhattan. Today, we know 11 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: that an adult t Rex could stand twelve feet or 12 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: about three and a half meters tall at the hip 13 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: and measure forty feet or twelve meters long. As such, 14 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: Torannosaurus was one of the largest predators to ever walk 15 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: the earth, But hold your horses. A handful of other 16 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: meat eating dinos rivaled or possibly exceeded these creatures in size. 17 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: Jiganosaurus belongs to this elite group, and it's part of 18 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 1: a dinosauran mystery that's never been solved. T Rex and 19 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 1: Jagonatosaurus were both representatives of the Therapoda clade, a clade 20 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:17,839 Speaker 1: being a group of organisms that includes a common ancestor 21 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: species and all of its presumed descendants, hollow, boned and bipedal. 22 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: The therapods were and are a highly successful bunch. On 23 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 1: the list of documented therapods, you'll find every carnivorous dinosaur 24 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: ever discovered, quite a few plant gobbling species, and all 25 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 1: birds living and extinct. The last non avian dinosaurs were 26 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 1: wiped out at the close of the Cretaceous Period, an 27 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,559 Speaker 1: expanse of geologic time that lasted from a hundred forty 28 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: five to sixty six million years ago. Its conclusion marked 29 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: the end of the Mesozoic era, sometimes called the Age 30 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: of the Dinosaurs. Tyrannosaurus rex lived in North America during 31 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: the Twilight of the Cretaceous, making its evolutionary debut around 32 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: sixty eight million years before the present. Our buddy, Gigonatosaurus 33 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: was the product of another time and a whole different 34 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 1: land mass. Native to western Argentina, it came along much 35 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: earlier in the Cretaceous, roughly ninety seven million years ago. 36 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: South America was a realm of giants. Back then, huge 37 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 1: sauropods or long necked dinosaurs roamed the countryside, with some 38 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: species stretching around fifty feet or fifteen meters long. Rounding 39 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: out the local beasti area were crocodilians, early snakes, and 40 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 1: beaked herbivores. No doubt Gigonatosaurus kept its neighbors on guard. 41 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: That therapods discovery was first announced in by paleontologists rudolful 42 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: Choria and Leonardo Salgado. In all the years since, we 43 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:48,799 Speaker 1: have yet to find a complete skeleton. However, the backbones 44 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: and tail vertebrate at art disposal suggest Gigonatosaurus was at 45 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: least forty one ft or twelve and a half meters 46 00:02:54,720 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: in length, so Gigonatosaurus might have been slightly longer than Tyrannosaurus. 47 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: On the other hand, a paper published in argued that 48 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: t Rex had a much heavier build. Using the circumference 49 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 1: of its upper leg bone, Roger Benson and his colleagues 50 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: calculated that a mature Giganetosaurus weighed about thirteen thousand, five 51 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 1: hundred pounds or about six thousand, one hundred kilos. The 52 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: same technique put t Rex at a whopping seventeen thousand 53 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: pounds or seven thousand, seven hundred kilos weight gaps are 54 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: all well and good, but the jaws tell better stories. 55 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: Anatomical evidence suggests that these two carnivores used very different 56 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: methods to bring down their prey. The teeth of Tyrannosaurus 57 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: were thick and sort of banana shaped and would have 58 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: excelled a crushing bone. In contrast, Giganetosaurus had tall, skinny 59 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: teeth that looked an awful lot like recurved kitchen knives 60 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: serrated on both sides. These pearly whites were housed inside 61 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: a narrow snout. By the way, Giganetosaurus had a monstrous skull, 62 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: soient estimate this noggin was around six ft or two 63 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: meters long. Combine all of these features and you're looking 64 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: at a therapod that probably killed by slicing ribbons of 65 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: meat off of its unfortunate prey, as opposed to shattering bones. 66 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 1: Once bitten, a victim may have bled out while the 67 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 1: carnivore lurked nearby. Giganetosaurus hails from one of the fossil 68 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 1: records most intimidating families, the Cacara Donta swords. If you're 69 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: into sharks, that name should ring a bell. Scientists called 70 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: the Great white the car cardon Cacarius. Likewise, the word 71 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: cocardonto sword roughly means shark toothed lizard in Greek. Well 72 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 1: we spoke by email with Steve Brusatti, a paleontologist at 73 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 1: the University of Edinburgh who studied these remarkable therapods and 74 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: happens to be a scientific advisor for the next Jurassic 75 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 1: World movie. He said, the roster of Cacara donta sword 76 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:56,799 Speaker 1: fossils has expanded tremendously over the last decade as people 77 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: have found new fossils all over the world, particularly in 78 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: South americ in Africa, but also in Asia and Europe. 79 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: Most kacar dontosaurids, like Giganotosaurus were giant meat eating dinosaurs 80 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 1: with deep jaws and sharp, thin, almost shark like teeth. 81 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: They were the largest and most formidable predators in many 82 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: ecosystems during the early to middle part of the Cretaceous 83 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 1: before the rise of Tyrannosaurus. Indeed, t Rex itself had 84 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: some puny forebears. The first members of its lineage were 85 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 1: human sized predators that showed up around a hundred and 86 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: seventy million years ago. Giant Tyrannosaurus wouldn't start evolving until 87 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 1: the late Cretaceous period, after the mighty cocar Donta saurids 88 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 1: died out. Brussadi said that this changeover remains a mystery. 89 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 1: We really don't know why it happened, and it's one 90 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: of the biggest remaining mysteries of dinosaur evolution in my opinion. 91 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: Today's episode was written by Mark Mancini and produced by 92 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 1: Tyler Klang. For more on this and lots of other 93 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: thunderous topics, visit has to Forks dot com. 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