WEBVTT - One on One: Mary Lynn Rajskub 0:00:00.720 --> 0:00:17.000 I am all in. I want to kiss you. I 0:00:17.079 --> 0:00:20.600 am all in with Scott Patterson and I Heart Radio podcast. 0:00:21.079 --> 0:00:23.720 Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, we are going to talk to 0:00:23.920 --> 0:00:29.000 Mary Lynn Rashka, who appeared on Gilmore Girls as Kirk 0:00:29.120 --> 0:00:34.640 girlfriend in the first film by Kirk uh in episode 0:00:34.680 --> 0:00:39.680 nineteen Teach Me Tonight. Uh. She is also an actress, comedian, writer, 0:00:39.800 --> 0:00:42.640 best known for playing Chloe on the Fox drama twenty four. 0:00:43.760 --> 0:00:46.559 Many movies. You've seen her in Little Miss Sunshine, Legally Blonde, 0:00:46.560 --> 0:00:50.400 to Punch, Drunk Love. She's been on Gray's Anatomy, Larry 0:00:50.440 --> 0:00:55.360 Sanders Show, Girlfriend Experience, Always Sunny in Philadelphia. She is 0:00:55.400 --> 0:00:59.520 a fascinating woman. She's on a stand up comedy tour. 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:04.800 She's written a book called Famish I s h and Uh. 0:01:05.160 --> 0:01:06.800 We're gonna bring her in and talk to her. She's 0:01:06.800 --> 0:01:08.920 gonna tell us all about her comedy and her book 0:01:09.200 --> 0:01:13.120 and her experience on Gilmore Girls. So let's let's bring 0:01:13.160 --> 0:01:19.160 in Mary Lynn. S Mary, are you almost choked on? 0:01:21.720 --> 0:01:26.200 How you doing? Mary Lynn? Nice? I'm doing. I'm doing 0:01:26.280 --> 0:01:31.760 exceedingly well. Um, Listen, thank you so much for coming on. 0:01:33.280 --> 0:01:38.119 You just have the most incredible resume and You've been 0:01:38.120 --> 0:01:40.000 in so many great things that I'm going to be 0:01:40.080 --> 0:01:42.160 all over the map wanting to talk about all of them, 0:01:42.160 --> 0:01:43.680 but I don't know that we can talk about all 0:01:43.720 --> 0:01:46.920 of them. Tell me about it. I'm all over the map. 0:01:47.080 --> 0:01:51.520 But it's wow. I mean, you are truly and I 0:01:51.520 --> 0:01:53.320 want to talk about the stand up comedy and the 0:01:53.360 --> 0:01:55.840 performance art because it's just fascinating. One of the funniest 0:01:55.880 --> 0:01:58.800 things I saw you say on an interview was you 0:01:58.920 --> 0:02:03.280 taped up your You taped up your and your private 0:02:03.320 --> 0:02:05.920 parts and said, what what was the line? When? Just 0:02:08.680 --> 0:02:15.040 for you? Okay, first of all, what possessed you to 0:02:15.120 --> 0:02:20.120 do that? You know, it's something that comes from deep inside. 0:02:20.520 --> 0:02:23.040 Why do you because you did you know it would 0:02:23.080 --> 0:02:26.720 be funny, and you did that as a performance piece. 0:02:26.760 --> 0:02:30.240 You did that. You did that, you went up on 0:02:30.240 --> 0:02:31.640 a stage and did it, or you were in a 0:02:31.680 --> 0:02:33.760 bar or something and this was part of a performance 0:02:33.760 --> 0:02:38.440 piece and you started it out like that. I knew 0:02:38.440 --> 0:02:42.720 it would be funny. I believe I was coming from 0:02:42.840 --> 0:02:46.840 art school, so I was making fun of performance art. 0:02:47.720 --> 0:02:49.840 So you know what it what? You know what it is. 0:02:50.000 --> 0:02:52.160 I can't believe you're even asking this because I haven't 0:02:52.160 --> 0:02:57.280 thought about this and forever, but now I realized it 0:02:57.320 --> 0:03:02.320 was back in my day in art school. You know, 0:03:02.400 --> 0:03:06.720 you do study performance art, which is this this genre 0:03:07.639 --> 0:03:16.280 which includes a lot of female strong you know, um 0:03:16.280 --> 0:03:21.760 doing stuff with their genitals, monologuing. So I was basing 0:03:21.800 --> 0:03:25.520 it on pieces I had learned about, but imagining that 0:03:25.560 --> 0:03:28.720 this woman it was more of like a cry for 0:03:28.800 --> 0:03:32.960 help then so her art piece and that that was 0:03:33.000 --> 0:03:36.800 funny to me. I was just you talking about in 0:03:36.800 --> 0:03:38.760 the interview made me fell fall off the couch. It 0:03:38.840 --> 0:03:42.400 was just really funny stuff. I don't even remember talking 0:03:42.440 --> 0:03:45.200 about that. You did, you must have done some interesting 0:03:46.280 --> 0:03:48.400 I looked at a couple of interviews I was, I was. 0:03:48.560 --> 0:03:50.800 I was interested to see, you know, how your brain 0:03:50.880 --> 0:03:53.240 worked and what you thought it was funny and what 0:03:53.320 --> 0:03:56.400 was going on and performance are to me, you know, 0:03:56.440 --> 0:03:58.520 my experience living in New York, I was exposed to 0:03:58.720 --> 0:04:00.760 you know, the Wooster Group, which I can cited performance 0:04:00.840 --> 0:04:05.960 art for the most part, um, uh Lori Anderson who 0:04:06.040 --> 0:04:10.200 incorporated more music and uh and Eric Bagozian right, so 0:04:10.240 --> 0:04:12.920 he was more of a monologuist. But I mean there 0:04:12.920 --> 0:04:15.240 was some performance art aspect. Who are your big influences 0:04:15.800 --> 0:04:18.839 just coming from work. I guess that that part piece 0:04:18.960 --> 0:04:21.839 in particular, I was thinking of like Karen Finley and 0:04:21.920 --> 0:04:31.880 Lydia lunch. Oh my god, so so you. The thing 0:04:31.920 --> 0:04:34.960 that fascinates me about stand up comedians is the courage 0:04:35.000 --> 0:04:36.680 that it takes to get up there, because you're just 0:04:36.880 --> 0:04:40.400 standing there naked with a microphone and man, you don't 0:04:40.440 --> 0:04:43.240 know how it's gonna go. How do you? And it's 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:46.599 the one thing that I've always wanted to do, but 0:04:46.640 --> 0:04:50.320 I never had the guts to do it. Um, what 0:04:50.720 --> 0:04:52.640 got you up on stage in the first place was 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:54.880 that the performance aren't and then you you liked the 0:04:54.920 --> 0:04:58.760 feeling of being up there as a performance artist and 0:04:58.800 --> 0:05:01.800 it just sort of, you know, what you wanted to 0:05:01.839 --> 0:05:04.600 say as a performance artist happened to be funny. So 0:05:04.640 --> 0:05:08.679 you just you went into straight stand up comedy. Yeah 0:05:08.960 --> 0:05:13.280 kind of. I uh, I just had a need to perform, 0:05:13.480 --> 0:05:16.479 and I don't know, I think it was kind of 0:05:16.520 --> 0:05:22.000 a survival mechanism to figure out how to express myself 0:05:22.200 --> 0:05:25.640 in a but in a very trial by fire kind 0:05:25.680 --> 0:05:31.279 of a way. And that's what you know, moving towards 0:05:31.320 --> 0:05:36.280 stand up allowed me to and I'm still doing that 0:05:36.360 --> 0:05:40.160 come closer and closer to you know, you have to 0:05:40.200 --> 0:05:44.320 be really clear and what you're saying. And when I 0:05:44.360 --> 0:05:47.320 was doing the performance art stuff, it was more abstract. 0:05:48.080 --> 0:05:53.400 So that's the allure for me, is the commitment that 0:05:53.440 --> 0:05:56.880 it takes to what you want to say in order 0:05:56.920 --> 0:06:06.320 to tontinued to want to do it right right. Um. 0:06:06.360 --> 0:06:10.200 I've seen a lot of stand up comedians. Um. I 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:13.160 saw Jay Leno in Huntington Beach before he took over, 0:06:13.560 --> 0:06:15.680 and he was it was two hours of just gut 0:06:15.720 --> 0:06:23.200 wrenching humor. It was fantastic. Yeah, I was stunned. Um. So, anyway, 0:06:23.279 --> 0:06:28.200 so you're currently on tour. You're you're launching a nationwide 0:06:28.279 --> 0:06:31.120 tour stand up. Um, when does that start? Tell us 0:06:31.120 --> 0:06:32.720 a little bit about that, because I want you to 0:06:32.720 --> 0:06:36.280 get the plug out. Yeah, it's sort of has started 0:06:36.320 --> 0:06:39.160 already and it's kicking into high gear at the end 0:06:39.200 --> 0:06:42.360 of March. And yeah, I post I posted on my 0:06:42.480 --> 0:06:46.080 socials every you know, every not a few days, probably 0:06:46.080 --> 0:06:48.520 once the week with the list of the cities. But 0:06:49.640 --> 0:06:52.120 it's been really interesting because I have a booking agent 0:06:52.520 --> 0:06:57.559 and it was almost like once she once the word 0:06:57.680 --> 0:06:59.440 was out that I was doing it and I was 0:06:59.480 --> 0:07:02.279 really it into it then people then other people were like, 0:07:02.279 --> 0:07:03.960 oh yeah, we'll book her, Oh yeah, we'll book her. 0:07:04.000 --> 0:07:08.799 And she hit me up and I'm like yes, yes, 0:07:08.960 --> 0:07:11.239 And so now I've said yes to all these gigs. 0:07:11.280 --> 0:07:14.080 That's taking me for like the next eight months. But 0:07:15.040 --> 0:07:17.440 I'm also it's you know, I'm doing my stand up 0:07:17.840 --> 0:07:20.000 which I would be doing anyway, but I also wrote 0:07:20.040 --> 0:07:24.600 a book during the pandemic, so I'm using the stand 0:07:24.680 --> 0:07:27.080 up tour to help launch the book as well. So 0:07:27.160 --> 0:07:31.760 that's a really exciting aspect. I mean, talk about great 0:07:31.880 --> 0:07:33.960 merch to have it a show, I'll be able to 0:07:34.000 --> 0:07:37.280 have you know, that actual book, Yeah, hard copies of 0:07:37.280 --> 0:07:41.720 the book. And that's famoush s h. That's the one 0:07:42.040 --> 0:07:45.320 my life, that's the one I've I've only written one 0:07:45.360 --> 0:07:50.200 book so far. Yes, smart, satirical, relatable, new meaning of 0:07:50.240 --> 0:07:54.520 the word icon as as you navigate show business against 0:07:54.560 --> 0:07:59.720 the backdrop of your own idiosyncrasies. Oh that is that 0:08:00.160 --> 0:08:03.440 much encapsulated? Um, and you made out with Tom Cruise 0:08:03.480 --> 0:08:06.920 for forty five minutes on a couch within without tongues 0:08:07.520 --> 0:08:09.760 according to this book? Is that? So tell us tell 0:08:09.840 --> 0:08:12.520 us a little bit about that? That was for the 0:08:12.560 --> 0:08:16.600 movie Magnolia, or he plays that um T J. Mackie 0:08:16.680 --> 0:08:21.520 that's self help or not self help, coaching guys and 0:08:21.560 --> 0:08:25.240 how to get women. So I was a flashback in 0:08:25.400 --> 0:08:28.160 his head as he's coaching these guys how you treat 0:08:28.200 --> 0:08:31.480 women to get them on your side even though you're 0:08:31.520 --> 0:08:33.640 being a dick, How to get them to be sympathetic 0:08:33.760 --> 0:08:36.960 to you. So he tells the story of like, if 0:08:37.000 --> 0:08:39.439 you're late and you know the woman is going to 0:08:39.520 --> 0:08:42.280 be mad at you, here's what you do. You show up, 0:08:42.800 --> 0:08:46.520 you bring cookies, you say you hit a puppy on 0:08:46.600 --> 0:08:50.360 the way over, and all these like manipulative things which 0:08:50.600 --> 0:08:54.280 end in making out with the date. So he's always 0:08:54.080 --> 0:08:56.560 he's coaching the guys how to get to clothes with 0:08:56.600 --> 0:09:00.400 the ladies. And I was the example date right, But 0:09:00.440 --> 0:09:02.240 it didn't make it in the movie because there was 0:09:02.320 --> 0:09:05.360 so much information. The movie was already so dense that 0:09:05.400 --> 0:09:07.320 this was like a thing in his mind, so that 0:09:07.360 --> 0:09:10.880 it was like a trim the fat thing. But I 0:09:10.920 --> 0:09:17.920 had this experience of doing a real scene for I 0:09:17.960 --> 0:09:19.640 don't know, I think I can't. I think we shot 0:09:19.720 --> 0:09:22.640 for two days. I shot for two days with him, 0:09:22.640 --> 0:09:27.200 one or two days, So let's talk Gilmore. Okay, you 0:09:27.240 --> 0:09:32.760 were Kirk's girlfriend in the debut film by Kirk Um, 0:09:32.800 --> 0:09:36.520 so you were probably in involved in one of the 0:09:36.600 --> 0:09:42.240 most iconic moments of the entire at Gilmore Library. What 0:09:42.320 --> 0:09:45.080 was that like and did it feel like it at 0:09:45.080 --> 0:09:48.160 the time? Why is it one of the most iconic 0:09:48.240 --> 0:09:53.679 moments filmed by Kirk? Yeah, I mean that just that 0:09:53.760 --> 0:09:56.080 sends the fan base. So the build up to it 0:09:56.360 --> 0:10:00.079 because the film, the film by Kirk was probably I 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:02.840 mean in terms of comedy, there's there's probably nothing funnier 0:10:02.880 --> 0:10:08.600 in the whole the whole series. Oh interesting, Oh yeah, 0:10:08.679 --> 0:10:15.600 the fans consider a film by Kirk to be you know, sacred. Okay, 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:18.880 that's in the Land of Sacred. They actually made the film. 0:10:19.120 --> 0:10:21.720 So you're watching the show and the fact that we 0:10:21.800 --> 0:10:25.120 made it and they showed it in the episode, and 0:10:25.160 --> 0:10:29.199 it's very It's got like a David Lynch. There's there's 0:10:29.240 --> 0:10:33.240 nothing funnier. There's nothing more absurd or funnier in that 0:10:33.480 --> 0:10:39.800 entire series. I feel very proud. I definitely remember enjoying it. 0:10:40.120 --> 0:10:42.400 You know, always when I'm on a show like that, 0:10:42.520 --> 0:10:45.520 it's like, I wish I could do more. So I 0:10:45.559 --> 0:10:49.840 tried to relish in just the one off of it. 0:10:50.080 --> 0:10:52.720 You know, it's hard to enter into a world that's 0:10:52.760 --> 0:10:56.199 so special and just be like hi bye. Um and 0:10:56.360 --> 0:10:58.720 I and I could tell at the time that it 0:10:58.880 --> 0:11:03.480 was not the norm. Just everybody was was kind of 0:11:03.600 --> 0:11:06.880 giggling about it. And it was a fun piece, I 0:11:06.920 --> 0:11:11.040 think for them to shoot because it was outside of 0:11:11.080 --> 0:11:15.760 their normal you know, set and scene structures. It was 0:11:15.920 --> 0:11:17.920 you know, it was like a little an art project. 0:11:18.120 --> 0:11:24.000 Um and uh, right up your alley. Yeah, it was 0:11:24.120 --> 0:11:31.400 very it was very cool. Yeah. I was in many 0:11:31.440 --> 0:11:34.680 student films and why are student films that were exactly 0:11:34.720 --> 0:11:39.640 like that? You were? So did you get to school 0:11:39.720 --> 0:11:42.160 for acting? And yeah in New York, I said it 0:11:42.200 --> 0:11:45.160 in New York. Yeah. What do you remember about filming 0:11:46.320 --> 0:11:49.240 a film by Kirk? What do you remember about doing that? 0:11:49.320 --> 0:11:55.280 How did they shoot that? Um? I'm trying to decide 0:11:55.320 --> 0:11:59.000 if I should try to make something up. I think 0:11:59.120 --> 0:12:05.400 it was twenty years ago. It may have been. It was, 0:12:06.520 --> 0:12:10.679 and I probably did a day, probably a half of 0:12:10.720 --> 0:12:14.480 an afternoon where they were trying to fit in this 0:12:14.760 --> 0:12:32.400 extra thing. Um. I remember it being outdoors, um, pleasant, easy, silly, 0:12:34.440 --> 0:12:39.160 um a mood I felt. I felt very much at 0:12:39.200 --> 0:12:47.800 home with the crew and the cast and Kirk. Yeah, Sean, 0:12:48.040 --> 0:12:49.600 was it hard to keep it? Was it hard to 0:12:49.640 --> 0:12:51.880 keep a straight face through the whole thing that we 0:12:51.880 --> 0:12:57.280 were definitely giggling for sure. Just one of it was fun. 0:12:57.440 --> 0:13:02.720 I mean it felt like a student feel. It was fun. Right, 0:13:02.840 --> 0:13:05.760 So you got that very specific direction from the director 0:13:05.840 --> 0:13:11.240 and said, listen, this is oh yeah, I mean I'm 0:13:11.360 --> 0:13:14.360 coming from, you know, the background that I did. And 0:13:14.480 --> 0:13:20.480 Amy Sherman Palladino was has always been a comedy fan 0:13:21.040 --> 0:13:24.080 back then, and I was very comfortable with her, even 0:13:24.080 --> 0:13:28.079 though I don't know her well. I felt like we 0:13:28.160 --> 0:13:30.600 had a shorthand where it's like, oh, she gets it. 0:13:30.679 --> 0:13:32.440 Like I felt like I was in very good hand 0:13:33.200 --> 0:13:39.080 and that I understood what it was without too much direction. 0:13:39.559 --> 0:13:42.080 For sure. The humor of it and the oddness of 0:13:42.120 --> 0:13:46.040 it was very natural to me. Right, Yeah, Amy gets it? 0:13:46.360 --> 0:13:51.400 Yeah she Uh. I don't know. I don't know how 0:13:51.400 --> 0:13:53.600 she ended up in TV, but she did, and she 0:13:53.840 --> 0:13:59.480 changed TV. Thank god. She definitely changed TV and continues 0:13:59.559 --> 0:14:06.720 to change right, exactly stunning. I mean, I'm glad she 0:14:06.800 --> 0:14:11.440 ended up in TV because she was made for the 0:14:11.559 --> 0:14:18.120 team of them. Both is phenomenal. Um, so a lot 0:14:18.160 --> 0:14:20.520 of people know you as Chloe on twenty four to 0:14:20.640 --> 0:14:25.000 shift Gears a little bit. Uh. Did you think there 0:14:25.080 --> 0:14:27.560 is any chance someone saw you Gilmore Girls and knew 0:14:27.560 --> 0:14:33.040 that you were perfect to play Chloe? No, but I 0:14:33.080 --> 0:14:35.280 can lie and say yes for the sake of this 0:14:35.360 --> 0:14:38.040 podcast and the fans of Gilmore Girls. Oh, I have, 0:14:38.360 --> 0:14:46.000 um a factoid. I auditioned to play Suki. You're kidding? Really? Really? Yeah? Wow? 0:14:49.280 --> 0:14:53.280 That was yes? Yeah, Alex when we found out that 0:14:53.360 --> 0:14:57.000 Alex that that what was the show she was on 0:14:57.040 --> 0:15:04.080 that Fox show, that funny kind of variety show on Fox. Um, 0:15:04.120 --> 0:15:06.040 Alex was on that show and they wouldn't let her 0:15:06.040 --> 0:15:10.200 out of her contracts. So I don't know how she 0:15:10.320 --> 0:15:13.240 got to film the pilot and be so great on 0:15:13.280 --> 0:15:17.280 the pilot as the harpist Drella. But they had to 0:15:17.360 --> 0:15:20.920 recast that obviously, and you were part of that. So. UM, 0:15:20.960 --> 0:15:23.640 how many auditions was that for you? What do you 0:15:23.680 --> 0:15:27.080 remember about that? It was just it was just one. Yeah, 0:15:32.240 --> 0:15:34.800 we'll talk about Chloe a little bit. She's such an 0:15:34.960 --> 0:15:38.240 iconic character. Um. What was that like for you? That 0:15:38.280 --> 0:15:40.560 was Evan cats right? You were working with were you 0:15:40.640 --> 0:15:43.960 working with Evan Katz. Yes, and what was that like 0:15:44.080 --> 0:15:50.840 for you? UM? Amazing and life changing experience. Um, something 0:15:50.880 --> 0:15:55.040 I didn't think I would be a part of at 0:15:55.040 --> 0:15:57.960 all because I didn't really do drama at that point, 0:15:58.760 --> 0:16:01.200 and I tried to not go to the audition. And 0:16:01.240 --> 0:16:04.600 when I went to the audition there was not really 0:16:04.600 --> 0:16:08.560 any material written. And speaking of someone seeing me on 0:16:08.600 --> 0:16:10.600 The Gilmore Girls and saying we want to cast you 0:16:10.640 --> 0:16:15.480 as this, the producers had actually seen me in Punch 0:16:15.560 --> 0:16:18.400 Drunk Love, which is another Paul Thomas Anderson movie that 0:16:18.480 --> 0:16:22.000 I was in, and they saw me in that and 0:16:22.040 --> 0:16:26.760 I was kind of bitchy for lack of a more eloquent, 0:16:27.280 --> 0:16:31.440 overbearing sister Adam Sandler, and they said, we love your quality. 0:16:31.720 --> 0:16:35.600 We have apart coming up in this next season. It's 0:16:35.640 --> 0:16:40.280 not written yet. Um we well we I know, I 0:16:40.320 --> 0:16:42.120 know there's nothing on the page. I mean it was 0:16:42.240 --> 0:16:46.160 the sides that they gave me were literally like yes, Jack, no, Jack, 0:16:46.680 --> 0:16:48.840 I know there's nothing here, but we're going to write more. 0:16:49.240 --> 0:16:50.880 We want to write apart for you. We think you're 0:16:50.920 --> 0:16:52.880 great as like we have there's an opening for up 0:16:52.960 --> 0:17:00.200 tech computer tech, and I just remember truly be being 0:17:00.360 --> 0:17:04.000 overjoyed because as an actor, any type of validation that 0:17:04.040 --> 0:17:07.720 points you in the direction of someone seeing you and 0:17:07.920 --> 0:17:12.000 appreciating what you've done. Quite honestly, that was enough to 0:17:12.119 --> 0:17:15.200 keep me going for another six months to a year. 0:17:15.880 --> 0:17:18.760 I did not believe they would write a part for me, 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:25.639 because that's not what happens usually. You know, at that level, 0:17:25.720 --> 0:17:30.040 they're exploring and they're putting pieces together, and the chances 0:17:30.119 --> 0:17:36.000 of that actually happening I thought were so small, and um, 0:17:36.080 --> 0:17:38.600 he wasn't kidding. And it was Joel sir Now in particular, 0:17:38.640 --> 0:17:41.520 who did most of the talking, as I remember in 0:17:41.560 --> 0:17:44.880 the room saying that, professing that that we're gonna write 0:17:44.880 --> 0:17:50.879 more material, and you know, and they did. And I 0:17:50.920 --> 0:17:52.639 thought it was gonna be four episodes. I thought it 0:17:52.680 --> 0:17:55.120 was gonna be six episodes. And it just kept going 0:17:55.160 --> 0:17:58.320 and going. I mean that one how many years was 0:17:58.359 --> 0:18:02.720 that seven? Was eight or nine years? And then it 0:18:03.000 --> 0:18:05.199 went away and came back. I mean I started on 0:18:05.240 --> 0:18:09.360 season three. I think there were eight seasons. Want to run, man, 0:18:11.160 --> 0:18:13.440 That's how Gilmore was for me. I was a guest 0:18:13.440 --> 0:18:15.879 star in the pilot and they offered to and we 0:18:15.920 --> 0:18:18.280 said no. When they offered for we said no, and 0:18:18.320 --> 0:18:20.879 I was very nervous about that because I needed the 0:18:21.000 --> 0:18:28.400 money badly. And my manager called me. Um one day, 0:18:28.680 --> 0:18:31.040 they come out of lunch and here I'm Manila Envelope 0:18:31.040 --> 0:18:33.960 had a six year deal on for the show. I 0:18:34.000 --> 0:18:38.760 couldn't believe. I think I wept and I wept um, 0:18:38.800 --> 0:18:42.960 but it was yeah, yeah. I was the opposite in negotiations. 0:18:43.160 --> 0:18:47.840 I'm like, well, you'll take me for two so I 0:18:47.920 --> 0:18:50.359 was just no. I was the same way, but the 0:18:50.400 --> 0:18:55.640 manager was the hardass saying no, I'm gonna get Gavin 0:18:55.760 --> 0:18:59.040 to go to the network and get the money right. 0:18:59.320 --> 0:19:02.920 And I'm like, really, because one of my buddies back 0:19:02.960 --> 0:19:08.480 in New York had turned down UM an iconic film 0:19:08.600 --> 0:19:14.959 role and never turned into I mean, he really, like 0:19:15.960 --> 0:19:19.400 really regretted it. And you know, Brad put Pitt took 0:19:19.400 --> 0:19:21.880 the role in the rest of history. UM not saying 0:19:21.920 --> 0:19:24.600 that would have happened to him, but I remember those 0:19:24.640 --> 0:19:27.440 times thinking, Jesus, you know we better take you know, 0:19:27.560 --> 0:19:30.040 especially after saying no to four episodes, and I was like, 0:19:30.080 --> 0:19:33.960 oh my god, wow, that's awesome. It was like I 0:19:34.000 --> 0:19:37.679 didn't want it. I would I would have taken the 0:19:37.720 --> 0:19:39.480 for man if it was just up to me. I 0:19:39.520 --> 0:19:43.880 was like, yeah, sure, I'll take it. I love that. 0:19:43.960 --> 0:19:48.080 I would love to hear it. Um, you know what, 0:19:48.160 --> 0:19:50.480 I want to talk about some of your comedy influences. 0:19:50.520 --> 0:19:54.359 Who did you grow up? How did you end up 0:19:54.640 --> 0:19:57.280 in art school? A Who were some of your big 0:19:57.320 --> 0:20:02.399 influences and in art and comed that that that made 0:20:02.440 --> 0:20:11.080 you the artist that you are today. Um? Well, I didn't. 0:20:11.119 --> 0:20:14.720 I wasn't really a huge fan of stand up comedy. 0:20:14.840 --> 0:20:19.800 I do remember seeing Whoopie Goldberg's One woman show on HBO, 0:20:21.359 --> 0:20:24.680 and I really wanted to do that, And I think 0:20:24.720 --> 0:20:27.480 I always wanted to do acting, but I was scared 0:20:27.800 --> 0:20:29.960 to study it and I didn't want to go to 0:20:30.000 --> 0:20:33.840 school for it, so into art school instead. I didn't 0:20:33.840 --> 0:20:36.399 think it was something that you could do. Um. I 0:20:36.480 --> 0:20:42.320 was always really drawn to a solo performer on stage. Um, 0:20:42.359 --> 0:20:45.359 that's why I enjoyed the performance art stuff. And to me, 0:20:45.480 --> 0:20:51.600 that was an entry into it because it wasn't a 0:20:51.640 --> 0:20:54.000 guy in a suit going like, here's what I think 0:20:54.000 --> 0:20:56.760 about this, Because I couldn't relate to that. I was 0:20:56.840 --> 0:21:03.080 somebody who wasn't very comfortable speaking my mind or understanding 0:21:03.119 --> 0:21:06.200 who I was in the world or what I wanted 0:21:06.240 --> 0:21:09.000 to talk about, So that's why I was more interested 0:21:09.080 --> 0:21:14.280 in art. One thing I had to learn, which took 0:21:14.280 --> 0:21:16.680 me a long time too, was as an actor, I 0:21:16.720 --> 0:21:20.480 tend to automatically go to like when I asked something out, 0:21:20.600 --> 0:21:23.320 you're gonna feel it. And I had to learn how 0:21:23.359 --> 0:21:26.600 to temper that doing stand up so that the audience 0:21:26.640 --> 0:21:30.520 felt okay. I was always shocked. I'm like, you guys 0:21:30.560 --> 0:21:35.080 are really feel bad about this. This is funny to me, 0:21:35.160 --> 0:21:38.800 But you have to like adopt this narrator so the 0:21:38.880 --> 0:21:41.560 audience knows it's okay to laugh because they will go 0:21:41.680 --> 0:21:45.639 with you if you're in a motive person on stage, 0:21:46.359 --> 0:21:49.399 which also speaks to the technician part of it, because 0:21:49.400 --> 0:21:51.880 if it's someone who's a technician, you're not worried about 0:21:51.960 --> 0:21:55.639 them because they're not showing you their emotions and I 0:21:55.760 --> 0:21:58.360 so I had to temper that back because my tendency 0:21:58.440 --> 0:22:02.840 is to show probably much emotion, especially for joke telling. 0:22:03.520 --> 0:22:05.640 So that's been really fun too, because that's a way 0:22:05.720 --> 0:22:09.360 to like build my own confidence and way to do it, 0:22:09.520 --> 0:22:13.399 you know, righting audience. So and then you get different 0:22:13.400 --> 0:22:16.200 audiences and they're not going to respond the same way. 0:22:16.280 --> 0:22:21.960 I mean it's just like you almost have to be, um, 0:22:22.000 --> 0:22:25.920 you know, completely intuitive on stage per performance, because it's 0:22:26.040 --> 0:22:29.640 never going to be the same reactions, same, very maddening. 0:22:29.640 --> 0:22:32.280 And I feel like you're very you're very clued into 0:22:32.359 --> 0:22:36.760 it mentally. I can see you going there imagining doing 0:22:36.800 --> 0:22:41.520 that because that's exactly each performance. I mean, similar ish 0:22:41.680 --> 0:22:48.240 to acting. But you're jumping but you know right, it's yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:22:48.240 --> 0:22:51.720 they're different that you know certain things don't work in 0:22:51.720 --> 0:22:55.240 front of certain audiences and you don't know why. Um, 0:22:55.320 --> 0:22:58.240 but with you know, you can't be I mean, you 0:22:58.320 --> 0:23:02.840 can be somewhat intuitive with live acting performance. But boy, 0:23:02.880 --> 0:23:06.560 I tell you that's that's the beauty stand up comedy. Man. 0:23:06.640 --> 0:23:09.040 You can just be. I mean, you can just sort 0:23:09.040 --> 0:23:11.520 of adapt, can't you. I mean, do you find your 0:23:11.560 --> 0:23:14.479 you find yourself adapting from show to show, and there's 0:23:14.560 --> 0:23:17.600 all that freedom to do it. You have to, you 0:23:17.680 --> 0:23:22.280 have to because you really are being given. I mean 0:23:22.320 --> 0:23:28.120 it's I'm I still marvel at like the insanity of it. 0:23:28.960 --> 0:23:33.080 Four shows in Colorado Springs, and each one I was like, what, 0:23:33.160 --> 0:23:37.400 like what now? What now? Like a drunk guy going 0:23:37.560 --> 0:23:42.160 I support you and handing his nachos to me, what's 0:23:42.160 --> 0:23:45.720 going to happen in this show? You know, this couple, 0:23:46.240 --> 0:23:48.719 whatever they got or whatever his deal is. You know 0:23:48.960 --> 0:23:52.239 the third show. Okay, the audience is good, they're not 0:23:52.280 --> 0:23:56.760 too drunk, they're paying attention, they're interested. And then five 0:23:56.800 --> 0:24:00.600 minutes in, Uh, there's a fourteen year old and audience 0:24:01.640 --> 0:24:06.119 what what now? I love people, especially in the arts, 0:24:06.200 --> 0:24:09.440 who possess courage, and I think it takes a tremendous 0:24:09.440 --> 0:24:12.120 amount of courage to get it. I mean, you still 0:24:12.160 --> 0:24:16.640 have this need and you still need to get up there. Um, 0:24:16.720 --> 0:24:18.600 but boy, it takes a lot of courage to do this. 0:24:18.880 --> 0:24:22.000 And maybe one day I'll I'll grow a pair and 0:24:22.040 --> 0:24:27.280 get up there and and try it. But it's scary. 0:24:27.280 --> 0:24:30.880 It's just so scary to me. Anyway, Listen, I could 0:24:30.880 --> 0:24:33.480 talk about this forever. They're cutting me off. We've got 0:24:33.480 --> 0:24:37.040 to do more episodes after this. But fascinating to you 0:24:37.160 --> 0:24:44.240 on stage doing stand up. Let's I'm ready. Let me 0:24:44.280 --> 0:24:48.160 see you first. Okay, let's let's do that. Anyway, it's 0:24:48.160 --> 0:24:51.280 been a real pleasure. I please come back. I want 0:24:51.320 --> 0:24:53.879 to talk get in greater depth. I'll try not to 0:24:53.920 --> 0:24:59.520 be so heavy, but you're a fascinating You're fascinating actress, 0:24:59.560 --> 0:25:05.760 fascinating performer. UM go see her on tour. UM Mary 0:25:05.840 --> 0:25:09.679 Lynn all the best, Thanks for coming on, Thanks for 0:25:09.720 --> 0:25:12.280 having me. You got to see you next time. Bye, 0:25:12.480 --> 0:25:44.719 all right bye, Hey everybody, and don't forget follow us 0:25:44.720 --> 0:25:49.200 on Instagram at I Am All In podcast and Emailie 0:25:49.400 --> 0:25:53.560 at Gilmore at I heart radio dot com. Oh you 0:25:53.640 --> 0:25:55.320 gil More fans. If you're looking for the best cup 0:25:55.359 --> 0:25:58.040 of coffee in the world, go to my website for 0:25:58.160 --> 0:26:01.119 my company, scotty pt com s c O T T 0:26:01.400 --> 0:26:04.440 y P dot com. Scotty p dot com Grade one 0:26:04.800 --> 0:26:15.520 Specialty Coffee. Yeah.