1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: I am all in. I want to kiss you. I 2 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 1: am all in with Scott Patterson and I Heart Radio podcast. 3 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, we are going to talk to 4 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: Mary Lynn Rashka, who appeared on Gilmore Girls as Kirk 5 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: girlfriend in the first film by Kirk uh in episode 6 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: nineteen Teach Me Tonight. Uh. She is also an actress, comedian, writer, 7 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 1: best known for playing Chloe on the Fox drama twenty four. 8 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 1: Many movies. You've seen her in Little Miss Sunshine, Legally Blonde, 9 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: to Punch, Drunk Love. She's been on Gray's Anatomy, Larry 10 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: Sanders Show, Girlfriend Experience, Always Sunny in Philadelphia. She is 11 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: a fascinating woman. She's on a stand up comedy tour. 12 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: She's written a book called Famish I s h and Uh. 13 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: We're gonna bring her in and talk to her. She's 14 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: gonna tell us all about her comedy and her book 15 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 1: and her experience on Gilmore Girls. So let's let's bring 16 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: in Mary Lynn. S Mary, are you almost choked on? 17 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: How you doing? Mary Lynn? Nice? I'm doing. I'm doing 18 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 1: exceedingly well. Um, Listen, thank you so much for coming on. 19 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:38,119 Speaker 1: You just have the most incredible resume and You've been 20 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: in so many great things that I'm going to be 21 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: all over the map wanting to talk about all of them, 22 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:43,680 Speaker 1: but I don't know that we can talk about all 23 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: of them. Tell me about it. I'm all over the map. 24 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: But it's wow. I mean, you are truly and I 25 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: want to talk about the stand up comedy and the 26 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: performance art because it's just fascinating. One of the funniest 27 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: things I saw you say on an interview was you 28 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: taped up your You taped up your and your private 29 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: parts and said, what what was the line? When? Just 30 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 1: for you? Okay, first of all, what possessed you to 31 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 1: do that? You know, it's something that comes from deep inside. 32 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: Why do you because you did you know it would 33 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: be funny, and you did that as a performance piece. 34 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 1: You did that. You did that, you went up on 35 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 1: a stage and did it, or you were in a 36 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: bar or something and this was part of a performance 37 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: piece and you started it out like that. I knew 38 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: it would be funny. I believe I was coming from 39 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: art school, so I was making fun of performance art. 40 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: So you know what it what? You know what it is. 41 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: I can't believe you're even asking this because I haven't 42 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: thought about this and forever, but now I realized it 43 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: was back in my day in art school. You know, 44 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: you do study performance art, which is this this genre 45 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: which includes a lot of female strong you know, um 46 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: doing stuff with their genitals, monologuing. So I was basing 47 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: it on pieces I had learned about, but imagining that 48 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: this woman it was more of like a cry for 49 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 1: help then so her art piece and that that was 50 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: funny to me. I was just you talking about in 51 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: the interview made me fell fall off the couch. It 52 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: was just really funny stuff. I don't even remember talking 53 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: about that. You did, you must have done some interesting 54 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: I looked at a couple of interviews I was, I was. 55 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 1: I was interested to see, you know, how your brain 56 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: worked and what you thought it was funny and what 57 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: was going on and performance are to me, you know, 58 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: my experience living in New York, I was exposed to 59 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: you know, the Wooster Group, which I can cited performance 60 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: art for the most part, um, uh Lori Anderson who 61 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: incorporated more music and uh and Eric Bagozian right, so 62 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: he was more of a monologuist. But I mean there 63 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: was some performance art aspect. Who are your big influences 64 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 1: just coming from work. I guess that that part piece 65 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 1: in particular, I was thinking of like Karen Finley and 66 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: Lydia lunch. Oh my god, so so you. The thing 67 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: that fascinates me about stand up comedians is the courage 68 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: that it takes to get up there, because you're just 69 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: standing there naked with a microphone and man, you don't 70 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 1: know how it's gonna go. How do you? And it's 71 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 1: the one thing that I've always wanted to do, but 72 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: I never had the guts to do it. Um, what 73 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: got you up on stage in the first place was 74 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: that the performance aren't and then you you liked the 75 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: feeling of being up there as a performance artist and 76 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: it just sort of, you know, what you wanted to 77 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 1: say as a performance artist happened to be funny. So 78 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:08,679 Speaker 1: you just you went into straight stand up comedy. Yeah 79 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 1: kind of. I uh, I just had a need to perform, 80 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 1: and I don't know, I think it was kind of 81 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: a survival mechanism to figure out how to express myself 82 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: in a but in a very trial by fire kind 83 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 1: of a way. And that's what you know, moving towards 84 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 1: stand up allowed me to and I'm still doing that 85 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 1: come closer and closer to you know, you have to 86 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: be really clear and what you're saying. And when I 87 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: was doing the performance art stuff, it was more abstract. 88 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: So that's the allure for me, is the commitment that 89 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: it takes to what you want to say in order 90 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: to tontinued to want to do it right right. Um. 91 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of stand up comedians. Um. I 92 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 1: saw Jay Leno in Huntington Beach before he took over, 93 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: and he was it was two hours of just gut 94 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: wrenching humor. It was fantastic. Yeah, I was stunned. Um. So, anyway, 95 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: so you're currently on tour. You're you're launching a nationwide 96 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 1: tour stand up. Um, when does that start? Tell us 97 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:32,720 Speaker 1: a little bit about that, because I want you to 98 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 1: get the plug out. Yeah, it's sort of has started 99 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 1: already and it's kicking into high gear at the end 100 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 1: of March. And yeah, I post I posted on my 101 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: socials every you know, every not a few days, probably 102 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: once the week with the list of the cities. But 103 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 1: it's been really interesting because I have a booking agent 104 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:57,559 Speaker 1: and it was almost like once she once the word 105 00:06:57,680 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: was out that I was doing it and I was 106 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 1: really it into it then people then other people were like, 107 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: oh yeah, we'll book her, Oh yeah, we'll book her. 108 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:08,799 Speaker 1: And she hit me up and I'm like yes, yes, 109 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:11,239 Speaker 1: And so now I've said yes to all these gigs. 110 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: That's taking me for like the next eight months. But 111 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: I'm also it's you know, I'm doing my stand up 112 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: which I would be doing anyway, but I also wrote 113 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: a book during the pandemic, so I'm using the stand 114 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: up tour to help launch the book as well. So 115 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: that's a really exciting aspect. I mean, talk about great 116 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: merch to have it a show, I'll be able to 117 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: have you know, that actual book, Yeah, hard copies of 118 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: the book. And that's famoush s h. That's the one 119 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: my life, that's the one I've I've only written one 120 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: book so far. Yes, smart, satirical, relatable, new meaning of 121 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: the word icon as as you navigate show business against 122 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: the backdrop of your own idiosyncrasies. Oh that is that 123 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 1: much encapsulated? Um, and you made out with Tom Cruise 124 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: for forty five minutes on a couch within without tongues 125 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: according to this book? Is that? So tell us tell 126 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: us a little bit about that? That was for the 127 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 1: movie Magnolia, or he plays that um T J. Mackie 128 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: that's self help or not self help, coaching guys and 129 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: how to get women. So I was a flashback in 130 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: his head as he's coaching these guys how you treat 131 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: women to get them on your side even though you're 132 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: being a dick, How to get them to be sympathetic 133 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 1: to you. So he tells the story of like, if 134 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,439 Speaker 1: you're late and you know the woman is going to 135 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: be mad at you, here's what you do. You show up, 136 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: you bring cookies, you say you hit a puppy on 137 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: the way over, and all these like manipulative things which 138 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: end in making out with the date. So he's always 139 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 1: he's coaching the guys how to get to clothes with 140 00:08:56,600 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: the ladies. And I was the example date right, But 141 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: it didn't make it in the movie because there was 142 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: so much information. The movie was already so dense that 143 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 1: this was like a thing in his mind, so that 144 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 1: it was like a trim the fat thing. But I 145 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: had this experience of doing a real scene for I 146 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: don't know, I think I can't. I think we shot 147 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: for two days. I shot for two days with him, 148 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 1: one or two days, So let's talk Gilmore. Okay, you 149 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: were Kirk's girlfriend in the debut film by Kirk Um, 150 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: so you were probably in involved in one of the 151 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: most iconic moments of the entire at Gilmore Library. What 152 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 1: was that like and did it feel like it at 153 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: the time? Why is it one of the most iconic 154 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:53,679 Speaker 1: moments filmed by Kirk? Yeah, I mean that just that 155 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 1: sends the fan base. So the build up to it 156 00:09:56,360 --> 00:10:00,079 Speaker 1: because the film, the film by Kirk was probably I 157 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: mean in terms of comedy, there's there's probably nothing funnier 158 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 1: in the whole the whole series. Oh interesting, Oh yeah, 159 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: the fans consider a film by Kirk to be you know, sacred. Okay, 160 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: that's in the Land of Sacred. They actually made the film. 161 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 1: So you're watching the show and the fact that we 162 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: made it and they showed it in the episode, and 163 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:29,199 Speaker 1: it's very It's got like a David Lynch. There's there's 164 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: nothing funnier. There's nothing more absurd or funnier in that 165 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: entire series. I feel very proud. I definitely remember enjoying it. 166 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: You know, always when I'm on a show like that, 167 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: it's like, I wish I could do more. So I 168 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 1: tried to relish in just the one off of it. 169 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 1: You know, it's hard to enter into a world that's 170 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 1: so special and just be like hi bye. Um and 171 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 1: I and I could tell at the time that it 172 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: was not the norm. Just everybody was was kind of 173 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: giggling about it. And it was a fun piece, I 174 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: think for them to shoot because it was outside of 175 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: their normal you know, set and scene structures. It was 176 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: you know, it was like a little an art project. 177 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: Um and uh, right up your alley. Yeah, it was 178 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 1: very it was very cool. Yeah. I was in many 179 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 1: student films and why are student films that were exactly 180 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 1: like that? You were? So did you get to school 181 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: for acting? And yeah in New York, I said it 182 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: in New York. Yeah. What do you remember about filming 183 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: a film by Kirk? What do you remember about doing that? 184 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: How did they shoot that? Um? I'm trying to decide 185 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: if I should try to make something up. I think 186 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: it was twenty years ago. It may have been. It was, 187 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:10,679 Speaker 1: and I probably did a day, probably a half of 188 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 1: an afternoon where they were trying to fit in this 189 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: extra thing. Um. I remember it being outdoors, um, pleasant, easy, silly, 190 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: um a mood I felt. I felt very much at 191 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: home with the crew and the cast and Kirk. Yeah, Sean, 192 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 1: was it hard to keep it? Was it hard to 193 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: keep a straight face through the whole thing that we 194 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: were definitely giggling for sure. Just one of it was fun. 195 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 1: I mean it felt like a student feel. It was fun. Right, 196 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: So you got that very specific direction from the director 197 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: and said, listen, this is oh yeah, I mean I'm 198 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 1: coming from, you know, the background that I did. And 199 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: Amy Sherman Palladino was has always been a comedy fan 200 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 1: back then, and I was very comfortable with her, even 201 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:28,079 Speaker 1: though I don't know her well. I felt like we 202 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 1: had a shorthand where it's like, oh, she gets it. 203 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 1: Like I felt like I was in very good hand 204 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 1: and that I understood what it was without too much direction. 205 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 1: For sure. The humor of it and the oddness of 206 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 1: it was very natural to me. Right, Yeah, Amy gets it? 207 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 1: Yeah she Uh. I don't know. I don't know how 208 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: she ended up in TV, but she did, and she 209 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 1: changed TV. Thank god. She definitely changed TV and continues 210 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 1: to change right, exactly stunning. I mean, I'm glad she 211 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 1: ended up in TV because she was made for the 212 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: team of them. Both is phenomenal. Um, so a lot 213 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 1: of people know you as Chloe on twenty four to 214 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: shift Gears a little bit. Uh. Did you think there 215 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: is any chance someone saw you Gilmore Girls and knew 216 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: that you were perfect to play Chloe? No, but I 217 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: can lie and say yes for the sake of this 218 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: podcast and the fans of Gilmore Girls. Oh, I have, 219 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: um a factoid. I auditioned to play Suki. You're kidding? Really? Really? Yeah? Wow? 220 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: That was yes? Yeah, Alex when we found out that 221 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 1: Alex that that what was the show she was on 222 00:14:57,040 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: that Fox show, that funny kind of variety show on Fox. Um, 223 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: Alex was on that show and they wouldn't let her 224 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 1: out of her contracts. So I don't know how she 225 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: got to film the pilot and be so great on 226 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: the pilot as the harpist Drella. But they had to 227 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: recast that obviously, and you were part of that. So. UM, 228 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: how many auditions was that for you? What do you 229 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: remember about that? It was just it was just one. Yeah, 230 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 1: we'll talk about Chloe a little bit. She's such an 231 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 1: iconic character. Um. What was that like for you? That 232 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: was Evan cats right? You were working with were you 233 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 1: working with Evan Katz. Yes, and what was that like 234 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 1: for you? UM? Amazing and life changing experience. Um, something 235 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: I didn't think I would be a part of at 236 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: all because I didn't really do drama at that point, 237 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: and I tried to not go to the audition. And 238 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: when I went to the audition there was not really 239 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: any material written. And speaking of someone seeing me on 240 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: The Gilmore Girls and saying we want to cast you 241 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: as this, the producers had actually seen me in Punch 242 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 1: Drunk Love, which is another Paul Thomas Anderson movie that 243 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: I was in, and they saw me in that and 244 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: I was kind of bitchy for lack of a more eloquent, 245 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 1: overbearing sister Adam Sandler, and they said, we love your quality. 246 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: We have apart coming up in this next season. It's 247 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: not written yet. Um we well we I know, I 248 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: know there's nothing on the page. I mean it was 249 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 1: the sides that they gave me were literally like yes, Jack, no, Jack, 250 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 1: I know there's nothing here, but we're going to write more. 251 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: We want to write apart for you. We think you're 252 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: great as like we have there's an opening for up 253 00:16:52,960 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 1: tech computer tech, and I just remember truly be being 254 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: overjoyed because as an actor, any type of validation that 255 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 1: points you in the direction of someone seeing you and 256 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 1: appreciating what you've done. Quite honestly, that was enough to 257 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 1: keep me going for another six months to a year. 258 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: I did not believe they would write a part for me, 259 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 1: because that's not what happens usually. You know, at that level, 260 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: they're exploring and they're putting pieces together, and the chances 261 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: of that actually happening I thought were so small, and um, 262 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: he wasn't kidding. And it was Joel sir Now in particular, 263 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 1: who did most of the talking, as I remember in 264 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:44,880 Speaker 1: the room saying that, professing that that we're gonna write 265 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 1: more material, and you know, and they did. And I 266 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 1: thought it was gonna be four episodes. I thought it 267 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,120 Speaker 1: was gonna be six episodes. And it just kept going 268 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 1: and going. I mean that one how many years was 269 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 1: that seven? Was eight or nine years? And then it 270 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:05,199 Speaker 1: went away and came back. I mean I started on 271 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:09,360 Speaker 1: season three. I think there were eight seasons. Want to run, man, 272 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 1: That's how Gilmore was for me. I was a guest 273 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 1: star in the pilot and they offered to and we 274 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 1: said no. When they offered for we said no, and 275 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 1: I was very nervous about that because I needed the 276 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:28,400 Speaker 1: money badly. And my manager called me. Um one day, 277 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: they come out of lunch and here I'm Manila Envelope 278 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 1: had a six year deal on for the show. I 279 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: couldn't believe. I think I wept and I wept um, 280 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 1: but it was yeah, yeah. I was the opposite in negotiations. 281 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: I'm like, well, you'll take me for two so I 282 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 1: was just no. I was the same way, but the 283 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:55,640 Speaker 1: manager was the hardass saying no, I'm gonna get Gavin 284 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: to go to the network and get the money right. 285 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 1: And I'm like, really, because one of my buddies back 286 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 1: in New York had turned down UM an iconic film 287 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:14,959 Speaker 1: role and never turned into I mean, he really, like 288 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:19,400 Speaker 1: really regretted it. And you know, Brad put Pitt took 289 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:21,880 Speaker 1: the role in the rest of history. UM not saying 290 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 1: that would have happened to him, but I remember those 291 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 1: times thinking, Jesus, you know we better take you know, 292 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: especially after saying no to four episodes, and I was like, 293 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: oh my god, wow, that's awesome. It was like I 294 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:37,679 Speaker 1: didn't want it. I would I would have taken the 295 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 1: for man if it was just up to me. I 296 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:43,880 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, sure, I'll take it. I love that. 297 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: I would love to hear it. Um, you know what, 298 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 1: I want to talk about some of your comedy influences. 299 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 1: Who did you grow up? How did you end up 300 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 1: in art school? A Who were some of your big 301 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 1: influences and in art and comed that that that made 302 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: you the artist that you are today. Um? Well, I didn't. 303 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 1: I wasn't really a huge fan of stand up comedy. 304 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: I do remember seeing Whoopie Goldberg's One woman show on HBO, 305 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 1: and I really wanted to do that, And I think 306 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 1: I always wanted to do acting, but I was scared 307 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 1: to study it and I didn't want to go to 308 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 1: school for it, so into art school instead. I didn't 309 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,399 Speaker 1: think it was something that you could do. Um. I 310 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 1: was always really drawn to a solo performer on stage. Um, 311 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 1: that's why I enjoyed the performance art stuff. And to me, 312 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 1: that was an entry into it because it wasn't a 313 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: guy in a suit going like, here's what I think 314 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: about this, Because I couldn't relate to that. I was 315 00:20:56,840 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: somebody who wasn't very comfortable speaking my mind or understanding 316 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 1: who I was in the world or what I wanted 317 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: to talk about, So that's why I was more interested 318 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 1: in art. One thing I had to learn, which took 319 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 1: me a long time too, was as an actor, I 320 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 1: tend to automatically go to like when I asked something out, 321 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: you're gonna feel it. And I had to learn how 322 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: to temper that doing stand up so that the audience 323 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: felt okay. I was always shocked. I'm like, you guys 324 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: are really feel bad about this. This is funny to me, 325 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: But you have to like adopt this narrator so the 326 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 1: audience knows it's okay to laugh because they will go 327 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:45,639 Speaker 1: with you if you're in a motive person on stage, 328 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 1: which also speaks to the technician part of it, because 329 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,880 Speaker 1: if it's someone who's a technician, you're not worried about 330 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 1: them because they're not showing you their emotions and I 331 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,360 Speaker 1: so I had to temper that back because my tendency 332 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 1: is to show probably much emotion, especially for joke telling. 333 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,640 Speaker 1: So that's been really fun too, because that's a way 334 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:09,360 Speaker 1: to like build my own confidence and way to do it, 335 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 1: you know, righting audience. So and then you get different 336 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 1: audiences and they're not going to respond the same way. 337 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 1: I mean it's just like you almost have to be, um, 338 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 1: you know, completely intuitive on stage per performance, because it's 339 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:29,640 Speaker 1: never going to be the same reactions, same, very maddening. 340 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: And I feel like you're very you're very clued into 341 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 1: it mentally. I can see you going there imagining doing 342 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: that because that's exactly each performance. I mean, similar ish 343 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: to acting. But you're jumping but you know right, it's yeah, yeah, yeah, 344 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 1: they're different that you know certain things don't work in 345 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 1: front of certain audiences and you don't know why. Um, 346 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 1: but with you know, you can't be I mean, you 347 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 1: can be somewhat intuitive with live acting performance. But boy, 348 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 1: I tell you that's that's the beauty stand up comedy. Man. 349 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 1: You can just be. I mean, you can just sort 350 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: of adapt, can't you. I mean, do you find your 351 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,479 Speaker 1: you find yourself adapting from show to show, and there's 352 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: all that freedom to do it. You have to, you 353 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: have to because you really are being given. I mean 354 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:28,120 Speaker 1: it's I'm I still marvel at like the insanity of it. 355 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: Four shows in Colorado Springs, and each one I was like, what, 356 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:37,400 Speaker 1: like what now? What now? Like a drunk guy going 357 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 1: I support you and handing his nachos to me, what's 358 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 1: going to happen in this show? You know, this couple, 359 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,719 Speaker 1: whatever they got or whatever his deal is. You know 360 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:52,239 Speaker 1: the third show. Okay, the audience is good, they're not 361 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 1: too drunk, they're paying attention, they're interested. And then five 362 00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 1: minutes in, Uh, there's a fourteen year old and audience 363 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:06,119 Speaker 1: what what now? I love people, especially in the arts, 364 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 1: who possess courage, and I think it takes a tremendous 365 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,120 Speaker 1: amount of courage to get it. I mean, you still 366 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:16,640 Speaker 1: have this need and you still need to get up there. Um, 367 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: but boy, it takes a lot of courage to do this. 368 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: And maybe one day I'll I'll grow a pair and 369 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 1: get up there and and try it. But it's scary. 370 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:30,880 Speaker 1: It's just so scary to me. Anyway, Listen, I could 371 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 1: talk about this forever. They're cutting me off. We've got 372 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 1: to do more episodes after this. But fascinating to you 373 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 1: on stage doing stand up. Let's I'm ready. Let me 374 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 1: see you first. Okay, let's let's do that. Anyway, it's 375 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: been a real pleasure. I please come back. I want 376 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 1: to talk get in greater depth. I'll try not to 377 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: be so heavy, but you're a fascinating You're fascinating actress, 378 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: fascinating performer. UM go see her on tour. UM Mary 379 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:09,679 Speaker 1: Lynn all the best, Thanks for coming on, Thanks for 380 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: having me. You got to see you next time. 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